FA-18C Hornet: Countermeasures (ECM, Chaff & Flares) | DCS WORLD

[@grimreapers]

*UPDATED COUNTERMEASURES (JAN 2021): kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHWpimpnnJJlqNk

[@Lightning_Mike]

"Arm the ejection seat, you're the last flare!

[@midly]

CW. Lemoine?

[@Lightning_Mike]

Man of culture ;)

[@nikelinq2899]

@@Lightning_Mike "Eject the WSO, he'll work as a flare"

[@heyviper1238]

​@@nikelinq2899the patriot system does have a cockpit bias...

[@piloto_loco]

finally someone explains. thank you.

[@billthebold]

I think the ECM in XMIT mode works selectively. For example, if you turned on XMIT before you left the boat an inbound Mig wouldn't get an azimuth from 100 miles out because your ECM wouldn't start broadcasting until it detected the Migs radar. If the Mig turned on his radar at 30 miles, that's the point when your ECM would go active and If that Mig turned cold your jammer would go quiet.

[@grimreapers]

rgr thx

[@theonefrancis696]

Took me ages to figure CMs in this plane, you helped a lot!

[@leopard1tank823]

isnt there one button for flares??

[@theonefrancis696]

@@leopard1tank823 the plane has different modes to dispense flares, you need to find the "CMS Dispense" button in settings. It works on manual override or semi only

[@leopard1tank823]

@@theonefrancis696 yeah I see thx

[@jetstumpy]

So helpful. Thanks for the good information, been watching your videos all week trying to get through the learning curve!

[@AdurianJ]

I want to learn the ways of the flare and become a decoy like my father !

[@theonefrancis696]

You will succumb to the dark side of the Chaff

[@Keatononame13]

Thanks so much, was trying to figure out how to split chaff and flare into separate operations, always active profile 5 was a life changer.

[@tiaria9677]

You do the best videos, really appreciate them. Finally started adding bad guys into my missions and I have been getting shot down a bunch. Also, carrier can't be hit with missiles, at least, not when I shoot the attacking missiles. Their SAMs always knock out my harpoons.

[@ITALSPLIFF]

Really the best man. I started to learn the F18, it makes so much fun, but it can be overwhelming stress full with the complexity for the first times, after a while it gets better. Thank you so much for your cool tutorials, today i flew online in an 4ya MP capture base mp server, i did shot down 1 enemy airplane by gun, 1 by aim9x, killed to radars by harms (agm 88cs). The aero space was full of enemy threats, full of friendly and uknown and enemy planes, i did only check the half of things i was doing, and i was not trained enough to control and steer everything how i want it to steer. But still like a wonder i survived this shit, and took my plane back home and did land succesfully. I was so fucking prowd of myself, and thats the best way to learn things, but punishing when you get shot down. Still big respect Grim Reapers! Greets from bavaria. Even with the A10C i learned so much from you, in this plane im already advanced know and i know what im doing....but with the f18 its my school time. CYA

[@Hellskelett]

I am new to the hornet, I have only some experience with the A-10 and I am pretty overwhelmed with air to air combat, about how to position myself and how not to get an IR missile into my backside. Can you give me some links to tutorials and guides that got you started? I find many detailed tutorials but I did not find a video about the real basics that give you an overview.

[@Despiser25]

Its not that it is super complex, the military is very good at breaking down complex tasks into simple procedures, lol. The problem is there are so many systems and they interact with each other, and so the procedure list in 3 miles long, lol. By the time I get to the 2nd mile Ive forgotten the first mile, lol.

[@Sunesen]

I believe someone posted a method on the DCS forums, for how to edit the .LUA file that contains the dispense programs default setup. So if you have a setup that you always run with, but can't be arsed to set it up every time you fire up a new plane, you should be able to change the default programs like that.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@ujd2930]

im new to all of this , but ive been watching your videos a lot and learning loads , great videos man ! thanks

[@MTSE-Citizen-Franger]

Just a massive Thank you for all your videos, without you i would'nt be able to fly in DCS at all ;)

[@grimreapers]

Pleasure

[@FalconMasters]

Is the EMC working at the moment? Or this is just an explanation for later when the EMC actually works ?

[@grimreapers]

Just an explanation

[@glennharrall8655]

Unless things have changed in latest open beta, the ECM does not work yet. It can be switched on but does nothing. The auto program for chaff and flares is also not currently implemented. Coming later in the EA

[@Swatmat]

pretty sure ecm does nothing as of yet, and auto flare defo does not work

[@Riddim_Squid]

How would the airplane or the Automatic Countermeasure system know when a IR missile had been shot at it, there is no tone or early warning when a heat seeker is shot because it doesn't use radar. Can anyone explain?

[@commiespy4908]

It detects the missile in flight.

[@captainelliot8767]

It can’t detect when an IR missile has been launched

[@daviddickey9832]

There are sensors on the F-18 that detect the exhaust of the IR homing missile launch, basically any rocket launch. These days these detectors are so good that they can detect the missile itself without the exhaust.

[@Riddim_Squid]

@@daviddickey9832 thank you I’ve been curious how that works

[@Bidensucks1]

Because the missile knows where it is where it isnt

[@DJones476]

Gen-X decoys are ejected from the Hornet's chaff dispenser.

[@garethmangnall]

I guess that as you can be hit with an IR missile without the Hornet detecting it, then it might be the case that Disp Switch Forward should be set with a view to defeating (primarily) IR missiles which the pilot has seen with his eye in Auto Mode? For example you have a mig on your tail and see a missile come off the rail without warning so the Auto is going to do nothing so you can be sure it's an IR missile. So Disp FWD and drop flares only?

[@KarlMathiasMoberg]

Helps a lot! Thanks Cap!

[@Prophet-of-the-Unknown-Lord]

Question: How does the (semi-)auto system decide when to deploy flares, considering that IR-guided missiles are not detected by the RWR? I assume in semi-auto it uses flares programs when there's no incoming radar-guided missile detected by the RWR, so it assumes you are facing an IR-seeking missile. But that doesn't explain how the auto mode decides if and when to use flares. So maybe the system has sensors detecting incoming missiles?

[@Prophet-of-the-Unknown-Lord]

Just noticed someone also asked it before. According to the answers there, the plane can "see" an incoming missile and deeply CM accordingly.

[@HungrigerHugo89]

Still helpful in 2022, thanks :D

[@lord-helmch3n]

good description

[@slow9573]

Maybe a stupid question, but how is the computer going to know when a fox 2 is launched at it in order to deploy flares automatically while in auto mode as you say? Are you certain it deploys chaff and flares in auto, or perhaps it's just chaff? That'd be helpful for me if so as that's how I always set up the f14: chaff on auto, flares on pilot (single use). But then I wonder... f18 cms looks simplified. I don't know if I can launch single flares while chaff is in auto

[@milipedecentipede2005]

We'd love a vid with different RWR sounds together with some explanation regarding to it

[@grimreapers]

wags has made me promise I won't do an rwr vid until it's finished...

[@milipedecentipede2005]

@@grimreapers alright then the waiting game is on 🤣

[@cmibm6022]

Most useful!

[@griffin5012]

Amazing as usual Cap - video request: Could you make a video on how to edit F18 texture map and application onto an F18 please?

[@grimreapers]

ermmm ok will add it to the list. thx

[@i-deni-i5138]

Contact ground crew - re arm and re fuel and there you can select liveries. (If that's what you mean)

[@griffin5012]

@@i-deni-i5138 No, using a paint program to design own skins but thanks for the response

[@ruf01au]

Thanks cap - doinf some SEAD now and couldnt work out why manual chaff wasnt working in the prep phase - Master arm not on

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@koraironams4656]

I would like to mention that that's an F18-E in the thumbnail.

[@grimreapers]

Oops thx

[@alexanderflybis5525]

Now its not working any more(

[@travisworm7489]

Doing any videos on the community A4 Skyhawk?

[@grimreapers]

not sure yet... it doesn't work in multiplayer...

[@kazansky22]

Mine ALE-47 always shows OFF with a line through it, it never goes into test mode... Does it only work if you are airborne?

[@StragTacGaming]

Yes

[@gwr3845]

You also need to turn it on, a button underneath bottom right hand corner of the MPCD

[@harpoonhenry4114]

Very good sir

[@keilylmm6377]

Great video info

[@incrediblemichael]

someone explain chaff and flares and i must something little correct modern chaffs use carbonfibers instead of metal strips the fibers are cut half lenght to the radar frequencie for a better reflection rate therefor on the radarscreen appear a huge echo

[@noelstephen3848]

Samantha Willmer Flares is really hot magnesium dispensed out of the plane. It burns hotter that the engines to deter heat seeking or Fox 2 missiles like aim 9. Chaff like becomes just interference and tries to distract fox 3 radar guided missiles like aim 120 AMRAAM

[@nakotaapache4674]

thanks

[@Fershky98]

Quick question, assuming you were on a fight, and there was only one missile left on the enemy aircraft, could using the jettison flares/chaff button increase your chances on that missile not hitting you?

[@hphp31416]

in fight it's probable better to keep HOTAS and not look down for little switch

[@jakesmith8769]

Does anyone have any advice on getting started in DCS? I would love to play but don’t have a pc to get started on and don’t know where to begin

[@terryboyer1342]

Jake To even begin to fly you need a PC. Otherwise just watch on Utube. Sorry...

[@methink7225]

then once you have a suitable pc, start with fc3, its an easier learning curve

[@nedbainbridge308]

Is it just me or did the F18 pulling of look like a super hornet

[@genitaltrickmaster]

It is a super hornet in the photo

[@daniyalamed2960]

I did everything in the video but my flares and chaff still won't go off.

[@grimreapers]

Set dispense knob to Bypass, master arm on, press flare button.

[@thedragonarmorchannel1772]

3:50

[@Encounter118]

Is the automatic mode working atm? I only use bypass

[@grimreapers]

neg

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

DOES EAGLE DYNAMICS PAY YOU? If not - THEY SHOULD.

[@grimreapers]

Nope

[@Matthew.1994]

i had my on auto and as a friend shot at me, it did not do anything. i dont even notice the rocket comming at me

[@Crazyplanespotter2006]

Well done on this, I love planes I even want to fly these when I'm older, well not this but I want to fly either the Eurofighter Typhoon, F35B Lighting or the Airbus A400M atlas thank you again for the video bye. 👋🏼👋🏼😎😜

[@hmabboud]

When I select bypass mode, it the ALE47 gets crossed out, why?

[@grimreapers]

It disables the Countermeasure system so u can have direct control.

[@hmabboud]

@@grimreapers Thanks

[@TheFlameImperishable]

is full auto worth using?

[@grimreapers]

I would never use it. on any plane.

[@Wulable]

Does burnthrough work because of paralax?

[@terryboyer1342]

Wul I"m guessing burn through is the radar pulses are stronger than the spoofing signal at shorter ranges thereby the radar ignores the spoof.

[@marioschmitt4435]

Terry is correct. At burnthrough distance and beneath, the radars reflection is at higher peaks than the jamming signal. Hence all comforts of Doppler effect can be used to determin distance, aspect and calculate a valid fire solution.

[@angrymediasmily9041]

can you show a toturial how to doge a missile ?!??!

[@grimreapers]

roger coming up

[@angrymediasmily9041]

@@grimreapers thanks ✌

[@funkytownjedi]

👍🏾👍🏾

[@stalhuth]

is the ECM working for the hornet?

[@kwilliams3161]

Ernesto Reyes you found an answer yet ? Or when will it be working

[@Balthazar030]

Do you use Trackir or VR?

[@grimreapers]

trackir