F-22 Raptor Vs F-15EX Eagle | Behind Enemy Lines | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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[@hurbiehusker2484]

F2. 2 versus F3 5 please like just head on long range fight maybe

[@Geno-The-Butcher17]

F8 crusader please... it's literally called the last gun fighter

[@wolfpeeing]

F-22 vs. entire Lebanese Air Force? Pls

[@RoanLinders]

day 71 of asking for su35 vs f35

[@SeanDring]

F22 with F-15 as missile trucks. Can DCS simulate this? F22 up front with Eagles behind (out of range). I'd be cool to see TALDs used in a dogfight :-)

[@RiesLP]

How many missiles can you carry? F15EX: Yes!

[@chrismaverick9828]

ALL of them.

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

For the F-15EX, I would just start lobbing missiles just before getting into range. Three for each volley.

[@kurttank3081]

16

[@michaelpetty8416]

I was wondering why he died still carrying all those missiles. You die when you’re out of weapons not carrying them down to make a bigger boom. 😒🤔

[@deathsheadknight2137]

@stanger427 MANRAM

[@miletello1]

Taking out both AWACS before killing him was mad disrespectful 😂

[@yanbo2u]

contempt at maximum.

[@theghostgeneral]

I look at it a different way. The EX had shown it was too much of a threat with it, so it was actually a show of respect lol

[@EvoraGT430]

Strategically it would have been a huge win even if lost to the F-15. AWACS are super-high value assets.

[@amazin7006]

It was probably necessary given the jamming those things are capable of. The f22 would have to get even closer to the f15

[@miletello1]

@@theghostgeneral na it wasn’t TOO MUCH of a threat. It was just more of a threat than the Raptor is used to….a slight indignation if you will. The fact is no other aircraft (MAYBE F-35) would have gotten to those AWACS.

[@kinch613]

The maneuverability of the EX is insane from a 50 year old platform. That Dubai air show was sick AF!

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

Well, it IS an amped up version of the F-15C. But with the added ability to carry a ton of missiles. The EX is to the F-15C what the SuperHornet is to the Hornet. Better Engines Better Radar Better AoA Better Rate Fight Better Maneuverability Better Payload Better RCS It's just a juiced up F-15C and that's a terrifying prospect considering how good the C was.

[@yichuanshih4719]

And it's carry 16 missiles while doing those maneuvers, just incredible.

[@Bryce-yw8hf]

well, F-15E, which makes its manuverability improvement even more impressive@@ObiWanShinobi917

[@dreaminknight]

It s agile with FBW but not with 16 AMRAAMs.

[@NathanIrizarry1]

To be fair physics don’t change, not in 50 years, not in a 1000 either. CFD tech was already in use in the times of the F15’s design.

[@ed4709]

Now do reverse roles and fly the F15EX against the F22. Awesome video as always. 👍🏼

[@JoshEastham]

Yes please!

[@SDBDUB]

Dude, that F-15 gave the Raptor one hell of a fight! It's incredibly rare to see you that defensive in the F-22.

[@dreaminknight]

It is not defensive. GS was just playing with the little Eagle..

[@RS-oq4wu]

But with TWO awacs!

[@dvaritek434]

Just shows how powerful triangulation is. Locking an f22 at 40+ miles is no joke

[@colinmarshall6634]

Probably what Russia/China means when they say they can see stealth. Doesn't mean they can shoot at it, but they probably can see it.

[@ausinasmith96]

​@colinmarshall6634 you basically see an anomaly from what I hear Something very small moving extremely fast popping in and out of radar 100 miles and then suddenly it closed 20 miles after it dropped off radar for a little

[@unknownname6519]

​@@colinmarshall6634thats how serbia shot down a f117

[@smith7602]

That was more of a command folly. The Nighthawk flew the same path every mission. Bombed the same targets too. Made it easier for the Serbians to figure out when the plane would come by and when it would have it's doors open and stealth compromised. What good is low observability if your enemy already knows where you are.

[@nando03012009]

​@unknownname6519 let's face it. The Serbs got lucky

[@BouillaBased]

A Hawkeye in a one-circle fight with a Raptor? Talk about seal clubbing!

[@dingmingzou9866]

yea that was nuts

[@evensteven1442]

0:37 the amount of AMRAAMs on that F-15 is insane 🤯😂

[@spartan9458]

@@rbrtck My understanding is that they use Weapons pods for the F22, so they are "Stealthy" pods with stealth coatings and special shapes... but even still it reduces the stealth a LOT.

[@johnandrewmunroe]

That empty bay flash at the end was better than all the flares in the world. Great mission!

[@andrewkrodel7976]

I think we need a video of the F-15EX against the J20. A missile truck battle!

[@Jst4vdeos]

Probably need a couple j20s

[@Dontbeweak123]

He already did f15e against a j20

[@Jst4vdeos]

@@rbrtck not internally where it's stealth is it's biggest asset

[@podcaster10143]

Man Growling Sidewinder is such an amazing pilot. I love these type of videos

[@Les.The.Occasional.Aviator]

I love these videos, but with my 2 favorite fighters going head to head, I didn't know who to root for minute by minute! Well Done!

[@000-z8n]

Mine too--but I was rooting for the Eagle all the way!

[@doxydoxdelamanca9902]

That F15ex is a flying Patriot system.

[@danielayers3054]

Damn!!! You are good man. I love watching you do what you do, I was in the Army worked on tracked vehicles and always A-10’s buzzing overhead and always wondered what it was like to be in one...same with every other plane you’ve ever been in so thank you very much for such a great experience... I love just about anything that fly’s

[@jimreynolds2837]

I love these videos. We see a lot of F14, F15, F16 and F22. I think some Super Hornet videos would be good.

[@Durzo1259]

I'd say it's all 95% F-14 and F-22 videos. The 15 especially has been really neglected.

[@elijahyeboah4331]

Imagine 2 EXs one firing while the other defends. No opportunity to turn hot and having to constantly defend. I think this is how the USAF will employ these missile trucks. Would be interesting to see multiple eastern low observables with hypersonics vs multiple F-15 EXs.

[@Strigon008]

Sad AWACS noises, I fucking lost it.

[@miket3342]

I do like how optimistic DCS is. The thought that a crew could perform a bail out out of large aircraft that is spinning out of control while in a nose dive gives me a warm fuzzy. 😂

[@ItzRetro2019]

Man that EX is a missile truck!!!

[@icaleinns6233]

wow, that was IMPRESSIVE! Almost stacked up against the Raptor like a training exercise!

[@w0mblemania]

Question: would it even be physically possible to escape from that spiralling Hawkeye?

[@000-z8n]

was wondering the same thing

[@corybrown2197]

Now obviously this isn’t real life. But even in concept, to see how stealth affects the outcome is incredible. He has arguably a better radar, had better resources, twice as many missiles and I think even more than just twice, and yet in those final critical moments where it was essentially a fair joust, his missiles lost lock, and yours didn’t. There’s something to be said about modern tech and sheer firepower. But in the end we figured it out over 20 years ago. Stealth is clearly what gives you the edge in the air.

[@blshouse]

F-22 is being retired because it is obsolete. Stealth alone is not enough anymore.

[@recoilrob324]

I was wondering how the F-15 wasn't killed by the first few missiles the Raptor sent its' way? I understand the missile seeker has trouble seeing the F-22...but the F-15 should be an easy kill...shouldn't it?

[@corybrown2197]

@@recoilrob324 well he’s also defending. The farther away you are the harder it is for the missile to maintain lock and hit the target. There are certain ranges where it should be a sure fire kill. Unless you can break the missiles lock and it loses you for even a split second, which can cause it to miss. But at that range and altitude there was nothing he could really do. Maybe if he was lower he could force the missile to hit the ground as it tried to lead him, but he was too high, and at that range there’s no time to defend properly. In fact if GS wasn’t in a raptor it’s likely he would have been hit in that last engagement too. It would have been a trade.

[@macgyver186]

Going after his awacs was a power move.

[@allenarneson4349]

Excellent video GS. Enjoyed all of it Your flight skills and knowledge absolutely make you the best!!.

[@chairmankaga101]

Man, the EX with AIM260s is gonna be a nightmare (for the other guy).

[@dreaminknight]

Unless the other is a F-35 or F-22 or is equipped with the Meteor..

[@JJJackson-lz1te]

Definitely need an "All Out" banner for the internal weapons bay!

[@farmergeo5374]

A kilroy was here, or a chalk drawing of an airman mooning the viewers. All Out works too.

[@Ingeb91]

the f15ex is such a monster. 22 missiles is a serious problem for anything it targets, and as we could see, it has the ability to lock pretty much anything from 40 miles out. That's a brutal missile truck, with insane maneuverability, and these are just the capabilities we know about. A worthy companion to the Kid.

[@Christopher-cr7pw]

I'm surprised he didn't triple Tap you seeing how many missiles he had.

[@FS2K4Pilot]

It sounded like he was locking you up at 15 miles. I wonder why he didn’t spam you with every Slammer he had left?

[@diegoruiz7600]

Would like to see more mission bases videos, maybe some multi crew stuff would be fun

[@JJJackson-lz1te]

Excellent tactics adaptation after the first AMRAAM engagements to go after the E-2 and E-3.

[@Fighter_Daily]

Now what if it was three F-15EX’s??

[@jayvee8502]

GS: "Now you know how it feels" Remembering the time he got back stabbed by an F22 while in a F15ex.

[@beverlychmelik5504]

I'm surprised that the AWACS didn't degrade your radar with jamming. Unless it isn't modeled in DCS.

[@sulyokpeter3941]

I dont think it is modelled properly. Sadly the same thing about the ships. If you launch anti-ship missiles, ships should also jam + launching decoys.

[@kevinmyers440]

I’m new to watching these videos kinda, so I don’t know how true to life they are but this is why I trust the F-15 against some of these other countries weak and fifth gen fighters, that radar it has is unreal

[@Blasikov]

Good to see the Hawkeye crew made it out. 5x5 chutes.

[@becausereasons8981]

Looked like a very difficult win. I love these fighters.

[@n.s.3410]

It's difficult beating an enemy that is carrying 72 missiles.

[@dreaminknight]

Situstional awarness is decisive. Not a lot of arms.

[@LeonAust]

Not for 5th gen......................easy!

[@MarioSeoane]

I wonder if it's true that a couple of 15's or 18's with the Irts21 at long range can spot, track , and give a targeting solution against stealth based on riangulation. 28 amrrams combined against 6 could be a real challenge.

[@dreaminknight]

Spot with some luck but no weapon solution.

[@deanspanos8210]

The canted tails from the silent eagle provided some benefits. Why weren't they kept?

[@MatthewTyreeKS]

That was my thought as well. I'm wondering if that will be a later update?

[@andreabindolini7452]

That was only a dead Boeing proposal, little more than a commercial. Unsatisfactory cost-benefit ratio.

[@erikcourtney1834]

GS with a Raptor is almost invincible.

[@arkie87]

F15EX: I heard you like AMRAAMs so I put AMRAAMs on your AMRAAMs

[@jonathanbarrell82]

What a missle truck the F15 EX is.

[@deadlygrounds]

Please bring back the chrome Raptor!

[@30AndHatingIt]

Sad seeing the big birds going down :( Hope everyone got out.

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

You can see the pilots and crew all chuting as it went down

[@rjg02005]

Damn, that is a lot of missiles.

[@SPUNLEE]

GS is definitely now a fan boy of the F22 and really who isn't. Good content and info. Thanks

[@rocketpunchgo1]

Now let’s see GS driving the 15 and Toxic in the 22

[@rmp5s]

Ground crew: "How many missiles do you want?" F-15EX: "Yes."

[@kswas2784]

Some more really good and fun content! How about A-10 vs F-35 CAS competition based on the recently released USAF findings.

[@josmith2062]

That was my fav video you've made yet! I'm a HUGE Raptor fan. Was on the edge my seat the whole time! LOVED it! ♥😍👏👏

[@istvanbarta]

Imagin the AWACS tell "merged... with me!" in the radio :)

[@FrankRoosevelt32]

4:01 Holy missiles, Batman! Jeez is that thing carrying 12 plus a drop tank?

[@theusernamejman]

That F-15 put up a heckuva fight

[@Dontbeweak123]

I wonder how much the radar signature of the F15 is decreased in reality.

[@blshouse]

LOL The RCS for the F-15 is about the same as for an A-380.

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

​@@blshouseblatant misinformation. It's only marginally larger than the SuperHornet. And the SuperHornet itself is small enough to be classified Low Observable. The F-15EX has an improved RCS from even that.

[@andreabindolini7452]

@@ObiWanShinobi917 No, the Super Hornet is around 0.1 square meters. The legacy F-15C is in average around 11 square meters. Surely the EX had some "have glass" type improvement in that field but I don't know any detail. I would be surprised if the RCS was reduced under 3/5 square meters. RAM materials alone can't do miracles and square angles are impossible to correct

[@markscott4881]

F-15EXs in conjunction with F-35s and F-22s in joint operations. Using the F-15 as missile trucks please.

[@agabadeus5515]

I 2nd this

[@danield.7359]

The f-15 ex was quite a cookie!

[@fortisone1416]

Since the F-15EX can maintain lock with its onboard radar but the AIM-120 cant, what would happen if the F-15EX were to use FOX-1’s along with AIM-120?

[@bluecollarbuddha948]

I thought for sure you were going for some "sneak up and fly formation" vengeance with this one.

[@winnerwannabe9868]

12:51 "sad AWACS noises..." Lol

[@optimalbass]

Very good educational video too. Lots of explanations. Well done.

[@soulseeker3194]

It's 4:20AM here, and I'm still up for this! Let's goo!

[@chrisbenten9971]

If i was the F15-EX pilot and knew I was up against an F-22 I would be triple tapping...

[@dreaminknight]

I would run away...

[@Neverforget343]

Could you do the ME-109 K4 vs the F15C Eagle

[@mrEnder1974]

F-15EX put up a hell of a fight, this was a very good video, good job both pilots.

[@MrVaelen]

This would be an epic SU-57 vs Fat Amy with the E3 and E2

[@tristandawson6417]

Wicked how capable the F-15 still is 50 years later

[@williamthornton5856]

Its not the same platform it was 50 years ago. The 15EX much better than the 15A, or C, or E. It also had two AWACs and its own new awesome APG 82 radar to triangulate the Raptors general location.

[@tysonjohnson937]

do some missions with one object that also has surprise unknown bandits for a mid battle support to enemy

[@JoshEastham]

That was very even. You were fighting for your life in an F22. The EX has the eyes of an eagle

[@End_of_Lvl_Guardian]

"How many missiles can you carry?" F-15EX: "Yes"

[@FrankRoosevelt32]

“Hey everyone today we’re here in the F-22 Raptor annnnnddd he’s gone… the F-15 is dead he’s gone.”

[@rebelhero96gaming96]

Another day of asking for ATG missions with the F-35 Lightning

[@yazi_b0i63]

Would love to see this with AIM-260's on the opposing side, Great video!

[@kaydenchan7093]

Day 9 of asking F-15 STOL/MTD vs F-14B Tomcat dogfight.

[@georgiabowhunter]

Those are some dizzy seamen.

[@HabitualButtonPusher]

E-2 Driver: Holy F*&k! We’re MERGED with a F-22!

[@danmallery9142]

Just for shits and giggles, it would be interesting to see the X drop like 8 missiles to see what happens. (and yes, I understand it would have no real world significance, it would just be cool to see the fireworks)

[@MajinLiveTV]

Good grief that F-15 is loaded. Should of named the video F-22 vs the AMRAAM Bae

[@TheAOliv]

Dude, Venezuela is about to invade Guiana. The only nation powerful enough to fight them in the region is Brazil. Can you do a video with this scenario? Brazil vs Venezuela? Thx, I really like you channel.

[@EdResleff]

Like someone else said... switch platforms... I'd like to see how you fare in an F-15EX against an F-22.

[@223556762308]

Imagine flying with more $$$ of missiles that the GDP of most countries.

[@williamsjm100]

I agree with some comments here. I would like to see two F15EX and an F22/F35 versus say 20+ SU35s…

[@bobbyshaftoe]

A note on the aircraft radar vs. the missile's radar: energy propagation drops off with the cube of the distance (D^3)... so that EX's radar at 41 miles is likely going to be MUCH weaker than the AMMRAM at 3 miles... even though the EX has a vastly stronger radar.

[@tristanb.3470]

The only f22 fight that I was rooting against the raptor

[@swedishbones8937]

The EX is an absolute missile truck. Takes spamraam tactics to a new level.

[@Rosvvood]

I bet if they'll make unmanned fighter, they'll call you

[@alxavier3795]

Hella good fight! Shout out to both pilots!!

[@keithlenzner]

Why not use the highly polished version, same scenario? You guys are great.... all good stuff!!!!!!

[@dreaminknight]

No maintainer remaining for polishing.

[@brianbishoptv]

Potential or Kinetic Energy? I learned that in Physical Science class 9th grade. That was like 7 years ago time really flies by.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thats right, thats also when I learned about it. wasn't 7 years ago for me though lol.

[@brianbishoptv]

​​@@GrowlingSidewinderThat's very fascinating definitely the missiles have more kinetic energy at high altitudes as opposed to low altitudes do to air resistance friction. Driving the missile into the ground using air resistance and terrain really is a game winning strategy. That's genius of a strategy, I'm definitely going to use it in BVR.

[@KKtheKitten]

day 10 of asking f-35b vs harrier in a dogfight

[@chrismaverick9828]

:Sad AWACS Noises: Definitely worth a shirt with a sad face on the radome

[@KellyBrownlee]

You're lucky the f15ex doesn't have the meteor missile.

[@1984Phalanx]

How many missiles can the F-15 carry? F-15: "yes."

[@user-mm1nt1it5v]

That was a cool video, I dont remember you going after the awacs before.

[@jimtotten342]

Holy missile truck, Batman!

[@ivellos]

I wonder if GS has ever played the F-22 Raptor from Novalogic, released in the late 90s

[@ltitus8900]

Good stuff man. I could have sworn that last one had your name on it.

[@tippership]

This was the fight i didn't know i needed- HAppy ot see GS go for the awacs kill + stealth sneak around, so the F-15 would be in trouble.... SPAMRAAM vs F-22- this was cool! /Love seeing the king of SPAMRAAM in a GS video- the EX and it's ....buttload of missiles

[@TakeawayBark537]

I think you need to find some better opponents, who flies face first into the MAR like that? Why didnt he defend after firing his AMRAAMS? Why didnt he use his ordinance capacity advatage to drain your missiles? I think this would have turned out much differently if they had used their advantages properly instead of basically commiting suicide via AMRAAM.