How Many AMRAAMS Are Enough? | F-15 EX Eagle Vs J-11 Flanker-B | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Thanks for watching and if you have ideas for future videos I'd love to hear them in the comment section below. Thanks as always guys hope everyone is staying safe. Much Love.

[@Asspiss100]

Yes more brv tactics with tacview after👍👍

[@kekelaward]

How about a Ronin mission with a Black Shark and a Warthog working together to devastate a target. Constant firepower on target. When the Shark comes off target, the Hog is rolling in. Maybe even try it with a FAC (I remember back in my youth, silly talk of the Viper doing FAC work). Maybe grab the other stooge and light up a treeline!

[@brilliantradience]

bruh keep doing the FYI 101 briefs

[@intel-hood8636]

“Missile truck” was also considered for the B1, probably would have been effective given their top speed and capacity, but idea dropped as they are slated for retirement.

[@jeffstrom164]

So many amrams he might be slow........good luck with that, heh.

[@adamgarrison4737]

That explanation of the datalink symbology was gold. I had no idea that the symbol sizes meant anything. Please include more of that wisdom in future videos too.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Wilco brother. Will try to do things like that more often.

[@mattfleming86]

Oh come on dude! You didn't read the 872 page manual??

[@mayer492]

@@mattfleming86 LMAO

[@sogerc1]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Could you please explain the NATO style display too in an upcoming video?

[@KumaKommando]

Seconded. I've been watching GSw for a while and rarely comment but immediately came to say just this.

[@lancet.346]

The answer is yes.

[@lord_kerman]

At the least lol!

[@FroggyGamingV]

Best comment

[@jaggar28]

1:21 Please explain like this from time to time for us who don't play DCS. Absolutely love your content. I think I've never missed any video since I've subbed to your channel.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you man I appreciate you, much love.

[@anomaly_echelon7994]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Been playing DCS for 6 years now and I still had no idea on how to interpret Datalink on Russian aircrafts since I'm only used to Nato Airframes, so that really helped.

[@chubbybear7777]

Totally Agree! You do an awesome job explaining a few things even in combat!. This was awesome because ii look at the radar and screens trying to follow sometimes no clue what i;m looking at most of the time. little explanation like this when you havn't played the aircraft recently or a lot would be nice

[@Noisy_Cricket]

Weapons officer: How many missiles should we load on the plane, sir? F15 Pilot: Yes.

[@allen480]

That’s determined and ordered by mission planning, not,the pilot.

[@Noisy_Cricket]

@@allen480 I know. It's just a joke lol

[@cosmoray9750]

Look up " Washington Slobbers All Over Zelensky, Gives Him Another $2 Billion " on yT. insightful and funny......

[@MrKnoxguy101]

Lol yeah.. “oh.. all I can get.”

[@711WasAPartTimeJob]

*That's what V2 is for*

[@lb7144]

At one time there was a B1BR concept that would have been an AIM120 truck. It would have been able to super cruise and would receive its target information from a forward F22s via data link.

[@williamthornton5856]

Yep, also heard about this. This would have been a definite volume launcher with fighter speeds, but not as manueverable as an F 15 EX.

[@bubblesofthecoast6393]

I think I remember seeing it when Dogfights did one for future combat. In the future segment, we had a pair of B-1’s fire a volley of AMRAAM’s while the Raptors scouted out a gaggle of Gen 4 fighters for the “bombers” to smoke.

[@varmint87]

It’s called the B-ONE-R

[@LightningSaix]

Supposedly the new tactical dorito can carry a carousel full of missiles for that very purpose.

[@ronaldeaker6402]

A B-1 with a bay full of AIM-54s would be a long range sky sweeper.

[@chadh7005]

Glad you explain as good as you do. I don't play but I love watching your videos. Always interesting.

[@jwfromsg9100]

Same here. Thanks for your explaination according to the Radar signal. Tha t was new to me.

[@PhycoKrusk]

I feel like the F-15EX is going to really come into its own when equipped with the AIM-260.

[@uummmnocoolnames]

I mean, it's already scary enough with 90-100 mile range AIM-120Ds and data-link guided missiles that mean an F-35 or F-22 can spot for it. A single flight of EXs with 96 AMRAAMs could - theoretically - severely cripple, or straight up wipe out, almost any given country's standing air force without ever entering radar lock range themselves.

[@Error-33]

@@uummmnocoolnames most countries have more aircraft than 500 but yeah i do agree the f-15ex platform is quite powerful when used with the other aircraft on a nicely planned mission i really wonder how the f-15e with the new motors will perform on dcs, that's gonna be awesome ngl

[@uummmnocoolnames]

​@@Error-33 Many countries have 500+ aircraft total - including transports, helicopters, trainers, etc, - but only a handful have more than 200+ fighters, and many have around a hundred or less. So, yes, 4 F-15EXs couldn't technically wipe out an ENTIRE airforce in a single sortie, but they could - again, theoretically -down 50 - 99% of most nations' air to air threat capability, which, for all intents and purposes, means crippling or eliminating an entire airforce. I don't mean to give a literal scenario of what could happen, I just mean to put the EX's mind boggling capabilities into context.

[@281cu6]

@@uummmnocoolnames They would start fleeing their country like Sadam's air force did after the Wall of Eagles proved to be utterly unstoppable.

[@timbaskett6299]

Future concept idea: AWACS aircraft replaced with an "ATDACA" (Aiborne Target Designator And Control Aircraft). A low observability airframe with an ASEA radar guiding missiles from a platform, whether atmospheric or orbital. An aerial theater denial weapon.

[@TurboHappyCar]

The F-15 still living up to the name, "Flying SAM site". Great stuff. 👍

[@SnentChannel]

Day 3 of asking for a YF-23 vs F-22 fight :) Man that missile hit was brutal. The way your plane spun towards the ground was so sad to watch, its like watching a horror movie. No chute, not even a punch out. Must be terrifying to be in the pilots seat, just hearing loud wind and a tumbling aircraft. Great video.

[@lord_kerman]

YF-23 VS F-22 would be interesting

[@PhillipJohnsonphiljo]

I think the aircraft flip g-loc'd the pilot so he couldn't eject! Not sure though

[@spitfire_flyer5659]

@@PhillipJohnsonphiljo that’s exactly what happened

[@jzeppy1]

@@PhillipJohnsonphiljo And those were negative g's. Watching the replay of the hit was brutal.

[@notHere8801]

A lot of us here appreciated the RWR symbology. Definitely explain this from time to time when you're flying different aircraft! You do an amazing job explaining things.

[@wurfyy]

That wasn't RWR, that was datalink.

[@Ilke2gofst]

Datalink tip was 💯. I’d love if you could incorporate more of these bits of info in future videos. As always thanks GS

[@batbeardscs]

Thanks for going over the different acronyms and screens and indicators. I’ve only been subbed for a couple months and have been wondering what some of those things mean but frequently forget to google them! It’s been fun to see the channel continuing to grow and I know us newer folks appreciate it!

[@benjaminmorgan1562]

Appreciated the datalink quick explainer! When you take the time to say these things they always feel appropriately timed and intermittent.

[@musman9853]

There was a B1 concept that carried like 80 amraams called the b1r

[@III1IlIIlIllIl]

@@yujinhikita5611 a what now?

[@christiancoleman3023]

@@III1IlIIlIllIl B-1-r = B- one-r = Boner

[@III1IlIIlIllIl]

@@christiancoleman3023 😳

[@thunderboltcougar5626]

@@christiancoleman3023 🤭🤣🤭🤣

[@dr.rockzotrrc3472]

@Grimace427 Boner comes hard and fast, dropping its explosive payload deep within enemy territory.

[@DSOImager]

There was once talk about turning the bone into a missile truck.. the B1-R IIRC. :)

[@DSOImager]

@@johnwurfel2862 🤣

[@DirtyBird28]

Years ago there was a history channel animation that show cased that very thing. I'm sure it's on yt somewhere.

[@DSOImager]

@@DirtyBird28 Yep.. I think that's where I first saw it. The idea seemed to pop up every few years.

[@danielberger1378]

The additional information about the datalink display and the HUD were very informative. Please keep doing that.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

"How many AMRAAMs do you need?" "Yes."

[@SolidMGSnake]

I dont know a lot of things about DCS since I dont play. I just enjoy watching you. Thanks for explaining things!

[@_jaegerboy_]

McDonnell Douglas : "We made the Eagle-II as you requested, so how many missiles-" USAF : "Y E S"

[@panzerkampfwagen8439]

Regarding 3:10, the B-1R variant of the Lancer was supposed to have an AESA radar and the capability to field air-to-air missiles, along with more powerful turbojets for Mach 2 flight. I think the estimate was around 50ish AMRAAMs, if you can believe that

[@nadoProducer]

3:03 I believe you're thinking of the 'Rapid Dragon' program, which is an effort to palletize and airdrop cruise missiles (ex JASSM) from cargo heavies (C-130 family, C-17, C-5). Not sure if there's any air-to-air missiles planned for that capability, but it's still a pretty cool project.

[@danielberger1378]

There was a project for the B-1 to be carrying air-to-air weapons... Got canceled though

[@Stinger522]

He nailed you the moment you recommitted and he turned at the last minute which enabled him to defeat your PL-10. You may've had a chance of winning if you sent one of your PL-15s at his AWACS. His SA would've been degraded into the ground. Oh well, great video.

[@evilcheesestick9306]

I really appreciate the explanation of the datalink, as a persons who doesn’t have DCS and doesn’t know much about it, its really fun to learn parts of the cockpit as well.

[@tonyrun5802]

Speaking of missile trucks, I think a modified B1 could do the trick: it's got room for the payload and also the speeds, since it is supersonic

[@russellknight26]

First time anyone has explained how to read the symbols in the radar Datalink and I've been watching DCS content for +3years. Thank you much appreciated.

[@kertaspaper94]

There's also the B-1R. Basically a B-1 Lancer modified for a missile truck role. And yes I first know of it from History Channel's Dogfights

[@dti131]

No way whoever called it that didn't want pilots calling it the Boner.

[@danielberger1378]

@@dti131 "Which aircraft do you fly?" "I fly the Boner" "You do WHAT...?" 🤣

[@jwm3244]

I don’t play DCS, why it was odd your video came up. Never looked for fighter jets or anything of the sorts. But was interesting video and been a subscriber ever since. Enjoy these videos & keep up until good work

[@ballparkjebusite]

Same. Aside from playing early F-16 Falcon and F-15 sims in the late 90s, I’ll probably never have the time again for it. Still, I watch every video GS releases.

[@Crit.Happens]

Explaining how things work really helps me understand what exactly is going on since I don't play DCS much, but I do enjoy these videos and their breakdowns.

[@BangaloreTrafficMadness]

Thank you for explaining the data link. Yes I'm new!

[@Vibakari]

The ex is just gonna make the f15 kill ratio even more ridiculous

[@jbrevet66]

Thanks for the tip about data link!

[@mistysowards7365]

F15 is an amazing jet, probably was the best example of air supremacy for nearly years and is still a top 5 fighter in the world today. What's scary is the f22 mopped the floor w several F 15s few years back

[@the_blue_truck]

I’ve seen the F15 and F22 fly demos back-to-back. You see the -15 and you go man that’s cool-- then you watch the -22 do the same things the -15 does, and also just the most impossible things you’ve ever seen-and it’s just observably on a different magnitude.

[@TwistLosi]

@@the_blue_truck As good as the F-22 is to watch at a live demo I still prefer high energy displays from jets.

[@the_blue_truck]

@@TwistLosi the B-1B is fun to watch 😉

[@ryanp5788]

You should try to test the F-22 with 28 aim-120s like the USAF did for a training exercise recently.

[@arguy3297]

I'm surprised the eagle wasn't dumping more amraams at you. He had PLENTY to spare.

[@marshalljulie3676]

Glad you explained the data link display took only a few seconds but was straight forward 💯

[@omarcaneomedia]

I've watched A LOT of your videos, maybe I missed it, but this is the first time I've heard an explanation of the data link symbols. I think people would prefer to hear things repeated for sake of making sure everyone else is up to par on knowledge so don't ever feel like you're repeating information, it's much appreciated!

[@itRIX49]

No, thank you for that initial screen orientation! It does help those of us who enjoy watching your videos. Keep 'em coming!

[@swampyproductions6755]

thanks for the datalink clearcut explanation! your videos are always fantastic and still somehow always improving. well done!

[@cadesilvers9507]

Thank you for explaining the Data Link, I don't play but watch the channel all the time.

[@FroggyGamingV]

Thank you for the tutorials I am one of the new guys you speak of! I now know how to read the data link :D my journey on DCS has been a long one so far

[@Vergial1986]

Thank you so much for the explanation on the Data Link. Never knew what the symbology was beyond friend/foe.

[@crosswindfpv5359]

You can never have enough amraams

[@bojned]

13:36 I have to say that caught me as a surprise and scared me a little bit :D

[@DW-nf9qe]

1:31..I heard this was a safe space, so ill admit I too didn't know how to read a datalink. Thank you for that explanation.

[@jaymac7203]

Thanks for explaining how to read the instruments lol it really makes a huge difference!

[@caseyborrowman3863]

I don't know of any fighter pilot that wouldn't have second thoughts trying to contest the skies with bomb truck Eagles and F22s slinking about.....lol

[@JockeyStrappers]

2:00 how long have I been maining this goddamn jet NOT knowing this!? THANK YOU

[@_D4V1S]

I think it'd be cool if you did more dogfights against unknown enemies

[@izanagisburden9465]

Ah yes SpAMRAM configuration... love to see it

[@michelchaman6495]

Thank you so much for showing how to read the datalink I just downloaded dcs I've been watching your vids for so long and can't wait to get into the f16!

[@fireems1187]

Actually they had plans to turn the B-1 into a missile truck. Look up the B-1R program

[@vonpredator]

Ah yes the BOneR. 😂

[@DeltaAvgeekOfficial]

13:35 "UNEXPECTED LIKE A MIXTAPE!"- Hmm by Hot Headzz

[@timsullivan4566]

"C-130s just dropping AMRAAMs outta the back" - hilarious image!

[@Avera9eWh1teShark6]

3:30 There was the C-130 Idea, then there was the B-1R, which took the missile truck concept to the extreme.

[@Dutchcomentatah]

This gives the Hornets SPAMRAAM loadout a run for its money

[@datutturugang666]

same technique

[@dmitrynova]

lets make a poll. People who watch GS videos but DON'T play DCS - like this comment we shall ask for more in-depth explanations on how things work. I don't play DCS but i want to learn more about instrument panel and stuff)

[@csjrogerson2377]

From theF-15's victory roll at the end, looked like 6 missiles still left on the rails, so 10 launched for 1 hit . Looks like the normal outfit of 8 AMRAAMS would not be enough for 1 kill against an experienced & capable pilot.

[@edwardmiller4562]

Not necessarily, considering this is a sim.

[@jeffstrom164]

Would love to see a modernized f111 as a dedicated missile truck. Pair it up with modernized f5s for the airforce on a budget. Love to see how it plays out.

[@JRGProjects]

Picture this: A Modern F-4J Phantom Missile Truck. The Phantom lacked a gun so it would be fitting as a missile truck. The WSO deploys the missiles. Also the F-4J is still one the fastest platforms out there. It could be on station in a heart beat leaving the dogfighting to the F-15s or F-22s. The Navy could also use the F-4J Missle Truck on their platforms for the F/A-18, F-35C, Growler or Marine Corps F/A-18C or Harriers.

[@nunyabusiness863]

Hey I didn't know how to read a data link so thanks for that. I'm a fan of yours because you entertain and teach.

[@GregL-zt4xf]

I *live* for these kind of videos. Thank you, GS.

[@792slayer]

"Being generous with the AMRAAMs" Eagle Driver: "Air Force ain't paying me to bring em back!"

[@MrKnoxguy101]

I was so distracted with the flight path, data link and HUD activity that I jumped when that AMRAAM made contact. That was ridiculous.. made me laugh.

[@Kjetil-delta]

Thx for amazing info. new here trying to get this game to work.

[@paulbrooks4395]

The EX is primarily a replacement for the 15C ANG units. It’s not slated for use in offensive operations, unless it’s one where air superiority has already been attained. Compared to the F-35A, it’s cheaper per flight hour and requires significantly less maintenance. The 35A is wasted as a defensive platform. The high AMRAAM requirement serves the defensive role well, as any large scale aggressive action will see many enemy aircraft attacking at once. Once the new long range AA missile program is complete, the Eagle II will serve an even greater role in defensive operations. Carrying more missiles further degrades its stealth effectiveness, and it’s not designed to have much in that regard. The primary issue with the ANG units is that they are past due for retirement, with many at the end or even past their suitable EOL.

[@timgallagher6529]

Thank you for the explanations

[@suyashsingh6976]

Excellent play GS, Hard luck I would say especially on that last PL-8 near miss.

[@spackle9999]

The mighty F-15 still has teeth. More than ever.

[@aleksibovellan9821]

I hope this channel and these videos never stop.

[@melgillham462]

Theyve been working on equipping big boys with *defensive weapons, missiles, since way back. My dad was ordinance tech in the AF in Vietnam, they were working hard on missile mountings and function on buffs.

[@rickkatz2214]

How did you get so smart GS? The commentary is excellent and the reason why I only what your channel(s). Thanks. This fighter nerd is most appreciative.

[@rangerrick8220]

Thanks for all the explanations - newby!

[@DarthPlaya]

I didn't know how to read the data link info, so Thank You! 👍🏽Given

[@coreysmithson4002]

My favorite part about watching this channel is seeing all the different, high tech American fighters and remembering why we don't have universal Healthcare 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@flamebreakk]

Omg I’ve never been able to read data link. More random tidbits in your episodes would be amazing like readying the display or HUD

[@glovemaker2]

GS as usual)) Evrth is ok, just flying... Boom!!!

[@haterbehavior4583]

I’ve been watching for at least a year and just learned how to read data link 😂😂

[@michaelfriscia8166]

Not new to the channel but thank you very much for explaining the symbology of the Russian radar scope...! Useful information is always useful.....

[@curtispaul5580]

There is a History Channel program called "Dogfights of the Future that speculated that The USAF could employ B1B's as missile trucks firing at a distance being assisted by F22 Raptors acting as Forward Observers

[@skylarlemm8571]

I don’t even play DCS but I love the channel great work huge fan!

[@IronbornBTW]

Wow the way that missile changed course at 10:00 looked like it almost got returned to sender! Has that ever happened?

[@adbell3364]

I wondered why the screen went black when you got hit - a butt-load of G's when your plane augured in. I like these chess match styled vids.

[@teggy689]

According to Wikipedia, Cost of Aim-120 = 1 Million Cost of J-11 = 19 million I think he fired like 10 missiles?

[@III1IlIIlIllIl]

🤯

[@hecunt3633]

Why I don't have muh universal 'ealthcare

[@krapransvr5198]

im new to dcs and i love how you explain

[@biff647019]

I do appreciate you explaining the data link. I've watched many of you videos and never understand what your gauges or radar are saying. "Got him on radar" and I'm like, where? Not sure what I'm looking at because to my untrained eye, nothing from the view of the cockpit changed.

[@RaderizDorret]

About using planes other than fighters as missile trucks for AMRAAMs... it wasn't C-130s. It was the B-1B that was being looked at. Think about it: a supersonic capable heavy bomber carrying a couple hundred of those missiles being guided in via datalink/F-22s plus the weapons the Raptors are carrying themselves.

[@esbuenodun]

Thank you for explaining datalink. ✌🏾

[@vividthespis]

Good fight. good flavor on the spicy meter.

[@treymorrow8525]

The air force is/was planning on using B1R as missile trucks

[@jamesharrison5004]

Thanks for the datalink explanation.

[@Wh1terider]

I'm winding back the clock, but I believe they were playing around with the idea of using "The Bone" for forward deployment with various long range weapons, and then picked up by F-35's prior to pitbull.

[@colinboone9920]

Played DCS for a few years, but I’ve never put more than a few hours on Soviet aircraft, really appreciate you explaining the datalink symbology! :))

[@louv4437]

That’s a Chinese aircraft

[@VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh]

I wonder whether the missile load is properly modeled in DCS; carrying lots of missiles severely increases the drag and hence reduces max speed and maneuverability; maybe even more importantly is the impact on autonomy. You start your combat in the air but of course in a real situation you have to take off, reach the combat area, fight and come back... you are likely to carry external tanks since refueling in a combat area is tricky, so no way the fighters could use postcombustion all the time as well...

[@shiftgood]

Thanks for the data link tut. ✌️

[@bobbythomas6520]

“Only advantage i have…” is that you’re the best DCS KZbinr (maybe player) ever

[@boharris8179]

Dont forget the B-ONE-R

[@abbaerfani9007]

Great video by you again and I think if it was 3 more J11 when you get to the MAR they would be dead also thanks again for making this video and thanks to F15x

[@jeff4kingable]

Super helpful explanation of the data link!

[@TheReaperHunter]

Genuinely please explain the radars, I have no idea what half these screens represent or what they're showing. So that little explanation was super helpful.

[@vicnot229]

Is CEC simulated in those newer jets? Having your missiles being guided by your AWACS could free the pilot from maintaining a lock during the crank, possibly changing BVR tactics in these scenarios.