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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@ziepex7009]

love the videos man

[@ThatFox3]

Yo do a gripen bandit unknown

[@TheCrnic]

Can we get a Mirage 2000 BVR video please. Two months ago you shot down Five Mirage 2000-5 with F-16s, but this time can you use the Mirage 2000-5? Maybe against some F-14s or Mig-29s? Thank you.

[@196cupcake]

S V E N P L Z

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

We need a Sven hammering that engine shirt design.

[@crawbag0311]

I think I figured out the problem. Sven is using an imperial wrench. Get him a metric wrench, and you've got a 6th generation fighter

[@LegendzAnimations]

🫡

[@FlyingWithSpurts]

Sven needs a 10mm, which as anyone can tell you just went missing

[@Anarchy_420]

At least a 5th😆👍

[@birdsong2552]

A little IKEA screwdriver will do just fine

[@dznutz8873]

Yeah it's the one thing a metric wrench is good for am I right?

[@dloreanwiz]

That Viggen can hold its own considering it’s a glider about 80% of the time. The interceptor variant would be awesome to see.

[@RAAFLightning1]

the opfor pilot made some very questionable decisions...

[@Anarchy_420]

Lmao I guess the other 20% was when GS used The Viggen to climb straight up into the vertical ;)

[@jonnyj.]

Yea, the ja version is really high up on the wishlist for me :)

[@LL-vy5bj]

The systems of the fighter Viggen are still classified, since a lot of it was put into the JAS 39 Gripen. DCS will probably not develop one without full access to its capabilities.

[@AttiliusRex]

@@LL-vy5bj early JA37 or only the D variant? The JA37D was made in the 90s and had many systems common with gripen, software and hardware, but i doubt the original JA37 share many commonalities with gripen?

[@blackmambalim]

Thats why knowing your opponent is so important, That F-18 kill was a clear proof when you said you'd out climb him.

[@RAAFLightning1]

the opfor pilot made some very questionable decisions... idk why he wouldnt just dive away??? is he brain dead?

[@SupaMan2122]

Stunned a Viggen can outclimb an F18

[@ryans5615]

Extra Sven horsepower more than makes up for it!

[@jaggar28]

@@ryans5615 hahaahahah

[@BeingFireRetardant]

That falling leaf, rolling scissors, deadly spiral with the Eagle was almost surreal... And just my opinion, but of all the airplanes ever designed for combat, the Viggen has to be one of the most beautiful.

[@joelangley7974]

I think the Gripen is pretty nice too

[@patrikstrandquist1875]

I spoke with Sven the other day, since we are both Swedish. He used to build furniture's for IKEA. But that was not a job with a future, he went over to SAAB as an engine tuner. His role is more like a flight engineer, where he tries to fix stuff on the fly, so to say. In stressful situations he tends to replace his allen key with his trusty pipe wrench. He is not that physical, and that is why he needs to take a brake after a long series of "calibrating" the engine. Sven is 32 years old, he lives in the suburbs of Stockholm with his girlfriend Inga and his dog Gripen.

[@heathb4319]

Well done Sir. Well done. 👍

[@deadshot4245]

few wrenches and a can of stromming is all you need

[@Eruthian]

I have the suspicion, Sven is actually an exchange mechanic from Finland with experience as stageworker for a deathmetal band. His headbangs are quiet on point.

[@Trains-With-Shane]

Sven is really Techno Viking.

[@tankermottind]

Maybe if they hired the drummer he'd get some more AOA 🤣

[@gogogagaoogabooga4245]

I think he's onto us. Sven juokse ne löysi sun salaisuuden.

[@SpamSucker]

Love the ‘bandit unknown’ theme! Air combat, meet box of chocolates.

[@barbaros99]

When you mentioned that the Viggen could outrun a bandit from the merge before it could get a missile off, I was curious about how powerful it's engine was given how often it seems to struggle when you're dogfighting with it. Then, in the last round, I saw your impersonate a rocket ship.

[@jagheterbanan]

Especially down on the deck there’s not much that can keep up with the Viggen.

[@icyrust8831]

That's because the thing has a frickin IKEA compressor.

[@vicroc4]

The problem is less with the engine itself and more with the intakes, IIRC. Above a certain angle of attack, the intakes can't pull in enough air and you get compressor stalls. Fly in a straight line where the engine can get plenty of air, and it apparently can haul ass.

[@barbaros99]

@@vicroc4 Ah! I wasn't quite sure how AoA affected it when GS was trying to explain it during the video. Thanks!

[@Storlans]

@@vicroc4 This is not true the JA-37(Fighter/interceptor variant of the viggen) has the same intakes but an upgraded engine Volvo RM8B instead of Volvo RM8A. The RM8B engine is more powerful and does not have any compressor stalling problems.

[@jasonblowers2808]

It's honestly hard to describe how impressive the viggen is as a "psuedo-multi-role" fighter.

[@bubblesofthecoast6393]

Iirc that’s why the interceptor variant was even made; the Viggen outperformed the Draken and just about anything the Swedish had, so it was bound to happen

[@TheNorwayDude995]

A JA 37 model is on the top of my module Wishlist.

[@WatermelonNetix]

I like the idea of adding your opponent's POV of the kill rather than just a third person view

[@AlexKall]

Agreed! Very nice touch!

[@pushing2throttles]

Round 1, was that a rolling scissors when you had the eagle in your sights and would've killed the eagle had Sven not been sleeping on the job? Round 4... the viggen killed a hornet. I had to watch that again. Genius move with getting him to chase you upstairs and play chicken with whoever stalls first, dies.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

I love your strategy of shutting down the engine to confuse your opponent. It almost worked in round one. Lol

[@lockhartmatthew]

GS, your kill song is titled Angelic Choir Devine Elevation by Allen Grey. I know others have questioned the title, and you weren't sure if its title. Just thought I'd share.

[@mattfleming86]

This needs to be pinned!

[@psykoarpic]

Finally someone found it and shared it ! thanks a lot

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thanks brother yes I can confirm this is indeed the song.

[@orzorzelski1142]

Praise the sauce giver!

[@stug77]

I always like when Sven makes an appearance.

[@stinkyfungus]

2:10 You invented a new BFM scenario. There is the flat scissor, the rolling scissor, and now we have seen the "snuggling scissor" A rolling scissor so close, you can both use the same blankie and whisper sweet nothings at each other.

[@onenaner]

The Viggen has always had a place in my heart for it's incredible engineering and design. Thanks for the video!

[@Pman353]

Except for its compressor stall that crippled it

[@knutnorberg9670]

​@@Pman353 For what it was designed for the compressor stalls aren't really a massive issue

[@Pman353]

@@knutnorberg9670 yes and they later fixed a lot of them with an upgrade

[@timmoles9259]

Its like going full tilt in a Volvo.

[@CircuitCatWT]

Same I love all the Swedish Aircraft but mainly from the time from the J-21 to the Gripen

[@Trains-With-Shane]

I have always liked the Viggen, And even the Drakken and Grippen. I never realized how capable they were as dogfighters more than just interceptors or ground attack aircraft! But mostly i'm a Tomcat person :)

[@mattfleming86]

The Gripen is probably my favorite. It may not be the absolute best at anything, but it's such a good rugged all around design. The HiLux of modern aircraft.

[@Trains-With-Shane]

@@mattfleming86 Agreed. Very good multi-role aircraft.

[@supremegreaser2399]

I’m a Mörkö Morane person

[@Lillspratt]

@@supremegreaser2399 that aint a jet. But indeed its Nice.

[@supremegreaser2399]

@@Lillspratt I'm not interested in jets and not everything has to be a jet. Piston engines are much more facinating and will be for a long time until ramjet engines become a thing on most aircraft.

[@Blablablabla1ify]

A guy in Gävle, Sweden has two complete nose sections each of an AJS37 and a J35 in his living room. Fully functional and original Saab cockpits. The stick shaker on the Viggen, which warns against excessive AoA, is incredibly aggressive. Just wondering how long a pilot could put up with that punishment on his hand for. Obviously not something which can be modelled in DCS…

[@freddyrene960]

Does he have a youtube channel?

[@isakgarheden]

Are you talking about NovelAir?

[@Blablablabla1ify]

@@isakgarheden I am! I tried inserting the link, but think it got blocked as spam. Well worth a visit. I was last there before the Viggen module was released in DCS, not sure if he’s hooked it up to that now as well…

[@isakgarheden]

@@Blablablabla1ify I’ll need to check it out then

[@mikeseabrooks7978]

Whats the name?

[@redman0357]

As soon as I heard "I can see the pilot" I knew it was lights out

[@conservativemike3768]

It’s not a dogfight in the Viggen, it’s a controlled fall.

[@Vanessaira-Retro]

Always enjoy these videos because it really shows thinking on your feet and knowing your potential adversaries inside and out.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

And a dash of luck. Lol

[@Vanessaira-Retro]

@@GrowlingSidewinder There is a saying in Motor Racing, "It's better to be lucky then good..."

[@roadhigher]

I thought it was always a shame that we only have the AJ-37 in DCS. The JA-37 would be incredible to play, massively less prone to compressor stalls, internal 30mm KCA with much higher velocity than the Akan's, AMRAAM's and better Radar plus more reliable and powerful engine.

[@davefloyd9443]

A two ship of JA-37s, flown well, would be a pretty tough challenge for anything.

[@157RANDOM]

Agreed. We need a JaktViggen

[@Doomsday499]

@@157RANDOM someone needs to do it

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

@@Doomsday499 Not just someone. Heatblur.

[@jonnyj.]

It not only gets rid of the compressor stalls, but it has fully digital fly by wire too! It was actually built to dogfight :D

[@JAEUFM]

Okay, I'm sticking with my idea that we give Sven some extra wrenches to toss out the back, could get sucked into the intake of your opponent and take them down. [Sven gets credit for the kill in that case.]

[@betterbackwards2701]

Would love to see what you could achieve in the F104 Starfighter.

[@td9302]

It would need to be at high altitude else he dies probably 😕

[@betterbackwards2701]

@@td9302 Designed to dog fight on half flaps? Probably feel more like divorce lawyer than widow maker.

[@vicroc4]

Most fights would have to be like that climbing fight at the end - let the -104's superior climb rate stall the other guy out and then come back down guns blazing.

[@betterbackwards2701]

@@vicroc4 Short version is that it is a very different platform. Only seen one vid of experiment. GS could figure it out....Or die alot.

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

The Viggen did well in a classic interceptor configuration. Using the predictable patterns SR-71's used on missions from England to the Murmansk peninsula, Viggen pilots were able to technically get a "lock on" passing SR-71's. Doing so without using the predictable patterns (refuel points, flightpaths, et cetera) and actually being able to hit it with an AAM would have been a different story though.

[@RogerJL]

They were doing it using data-link (second generation, Draken had the first), got all info speed, angle, ... As they did not need own radar to find and navigation to the SR-71 got no advance warning...

[@gaiofattos2]

Shame that they didn't put the interceptor Viggen instead of the attacker one.

[@evangalinsky2499]

Or both

[@forseir]

I wonder what the differences are, maybe in the future we could have the fighter version too… similar to the f14 with it’s A/B models, just with the fighter/attacker models of the Viggen

[@Spaz1NOuT]

Honestly because the RM9 doesnt have the compressor stall issues like the RM8

[@evangalinsky2499]

@@Spaz1NOuT You mean the RM-8C instead of the RM-8B? The Ja-37C/D both used the 8C

[@Spaz1NOuT]

@@evangalinsky2499 Yeah sorry lol been a while since ive looked at the Viggens engine been looking at the Gripen a lot and forgot 😭😭

[@martins3993]

Yeeees! Another Viggen-video!

[@vortx7228]

If the Viggen never had compressor stalls, then it will be a dogfight monster

[@Ayeshteni]

Cessna 152 with a snub-nose .38 against an F-22. I've got faith in you.

[@bitkarek]

the engine stall - does it matter how much trottle you give at the moment? Dude this plan is actually good, its just not about the engine performance, but more about how Sven performs! If he gets tired, you are dead.

[@FullBoltOnRacing]

I have a sneaking suspicion that Sven is actually a Soviet sleeper agent that isn’t using his big hammer on purpose

[@tmytyson]

I am once again asking for Battle of the Canards II: A 4-way fight between the JAS39 Gripen, Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale, and SU33 Flanker-D. May the best 'nard win.

[@letsgetsteve]

Sven, the Swedish early devlopment R2-D2 was really getting a heck of a workout today!

[@orzorzelski1142]

Sven is an absolute mad lad. He only stops banging that engine when it either works correctly or he's looking for a bigger wrench to keep banging it back to life. He never quits on you. Never ejects. And when the dust settles - he doesn't blame you for losing the dogfight; he stands up, puts the fire he's on down, silently pats you on the back, gives you thumbs up, and starts walking towards the nearest viggen. Again, and again, and again. And when you finally win... He's there. Probably banging the engine, in silence. But smiling. He always believed in you. Always.

[@vicroc4]

He's a much better backseater than Jester, that's for sure.

[@Andy_XT]

For some reasons I've always liked the Viggen. Nice video, as usual!

[@timsullivan4566]

Amazing how long the old girl lasted in Round 1!

[@davidsolus9410]

"Look at this, I can see the pilo-" WET SMACKING NOISE AND ASSOCIATED PINK MIST.

[@timsullivan4566]

"...and I could re-e-e-e-ally use an engine right now." LOL!

[@JBSmoke1]

Awesome! The compressor stalled Dervish dance with the F-15 was cool!

[@radioactive9861]

5:04...was waiting for GS to say the familiar: "That's a wing...".

[@davidboffa3010]

Was a cool touch adding the POV of the adversary aircraft each time you got shot down, excellent video

[@ReynDacen]

Sven was looking for a "Fika" and protested as he wanted his Kaffe and Bulle.:D

[@nruff100]

That was some great geometry from both of u at the real low speed part at the start of the first round 👍

[@AdamWalkLikeSuicide]

Mega! Always love Viggen content. Thanks.

[@jaromirandel543]

Just note: Compressor stall may destroy the engine instantly. It is up on you how do you want to be killed.

[@luisrodriguez2250]

The viggen is like my Nissan 240sx in the mornings engine always dying only wanting to turn on when it wants too😂

[@JessidGallardo]

You should do the US vs Russia thing again but with the rule that you can't choose the same jet twice so it's more interesting. Do like 5 or 6 rounds so you can have different engagements. Also make it bandit unknown so you have to choose your jet carefully.

[@jaxastro3072]

This is a cool idea. If u bring a raptor the 1st round and they bring a mig-21 then you wont have anything to use against the felon. Could make for some cool matchups

[@rickardbergstrom8769]

Thanks!Luv ur Viggenvideos.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you very much.

[@drakedent5511]

Great content as always keep it up

[@walterblanc9708]

I have not "flown" Since the original MCFS but watching your Video's is always a joy.

[@simbahunter]

As we can see in this video's demonstration a lot depends on the pilot's skill at piloting the aircraft properly and also the ability to read and know your enemy's weakness and work alongside that and GS made a spectacular demonstration in this video.

[@isakgarheden]

More viggen, thanks for a great video!

[@XCougar85X]

REally nice video. Nice choice of music btw, ads some nice drama.

[@ryanpan3015]

I love every video you make, keep it up!

[@onyx6847]

i get home from school, finish my homework and gs uploads, it’s a good day

[@kyun1711]

"Oh my god, I can see the pilot-" - probably the famous last words of many.

[@ohgoshtro]

Well that J-11 is hearing Paint it black when you shot off both of his engines. Good shot

[@jaxastro3072]

7:26 Sven is on his Lunch Break don't bother him

[@maqywhaq]

"If you're having too much trouble blocking punches in a boxing match, just use your face~"

[@RT42069]

I wonder how well Jester would do if you gave him Sven's job

[@Jake_Garcia]

"Contact 12 O'clock! Eject!"

[@palebluedot8733]

6:44 when depression mode kicks in haha

[@heathbrooks6436]

"Look at this I can see the Pil-" - Growling Sidewinder

[@murfdog2216]

Good Ole Sven is working overtime today! 😆 😆

[@GM-fh5jp]

That's my kind of gun, twin bullet streams and nice bright tracer. Very cool.

[@Novafro]

I find it both strange and amusing. I haven't even played DCS yet, and I've watched enough of your videos that I'm starting to be able to read what will happen next. For example, when its really starting to look like you might take a shot to the face, and sure enough.

[@Anarchy_420]

Mirage F-1 VS Panavia Tornado Mosquito VS Pucara F-4 Phantom VS A-4 Skyhawk MIG-28 VS MIG-29 F-16I Sufa VS F-15STOL/MTD Fox2 Dogfight! MB-339 Aerimacchi VS AJS37 Viggen J-10 VS SU-27 F4U Corsair VS MIG-15 F-22 VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR! T-45 Goshawk VS F-14 Tomcat Test Fight! F-35 VS Two MIG-31's/R-37M's BVR! Please fly Planes on the left!👍👍

[@Anarchy_420]

AH-64 Apache VS Ka-50 Kamov UH-1H VS Mi-8

[@fubaralakbar6800]

F-86 vs A-4

[@Anarchy_420]

@@fubaralakbar6800 F-86 VS A-10

[@fubaralakbar6800]

@@Anarchy_420 That would be pretty cool. The Sabre would have at least one of the same problems it had with the MiG-15: a tough hide. The pilot would have to stay on target even longer to bring it down. Also like the MiG, the A-10 has a huge gun, so if he does manage to get one hit, you're dead. Of course the Saber is a lot more maneuverable and the A-10 can't climb as hard as the MiG. Now, consider the Saber going against the Skyhawk. Both are single engine non-afterburning planes, from times close enough for one to easily remember the other, maybe even close enough to meet. The Skyhawk would be like a MiG on steroids, able to climb like mad as long as it isn't carrying bombs. It will have a more powerful engine than the Saber, more powerful guns, and is probably even more nimble (and that's saying a lot!) This would be a real challenge for the Saber.

[@Anarchy_420]

@@fubaralakbar6800 I'm not so sure The Sabre is much more maneuverable than The A-10... They're probably pretty damn close which would make it a close and good matchup however I mentioned The SU-25 bc it is not maneuverable like The A-10 and F-86, SU-25 would have to rely on speed and so it could be an offset matchup lol which I always find interesting to watch! Lmao just look at my one request-- MB-339 Aerimacchi VS AJS37 Viggen total mismatch!😆 yet I bet it'd be very entertaining🤔👍

[@DIREWOLFx75]

The engine problem seems EXTREMELY exaggerated... And i'm saying that as someone who has had friends who flew this plane. And the airforce here, pilots do a lot of very serious practise, enough so that a Viggen was lost in accidents occasionally, because it's considered worth it to train realistically. But while "not a great dogfighter plane" is common knowledge, they DO train for it and they absolutely did not have such common engine issues. Out of the crashes due to training i can recall, i think only one or possibly two were due to engine problems, and that's like 2-5% of the total(40? IIRC) or something.

[@Juel92]

I feel like the Viggen always does better than one could possibly expect until the stalls. Imagine a Viggen without the stalls, would be interesting to see it's performance.

[@Narutoville]

I'd like to see the Viggen JA37 variants be used since those are the fighter/interceptor variant.

[@config2543]

@8:33. OMG… I can see the pil… ☠️ 😂

[@Boggoranthius]

Shows that it is the better pilot that makes the plane better ... and wins the fight.

[@LuisDiaz-fs8uh]

Next on GS, I am in a Sopwith Camel with a .22 caliber revolver versus an F-22.

[@MrDino1953]

I’m diggin’ the friggin’ Viggen.

[@imranaiman7184]

I miss sven & gs combo, thanks GS🤘🏻

[@j0esmith]

“Let off the AoA” lol “just embrace the serenity of death”

[@simoneradice3576]

Your last dogfigh is a masterpiece

[@convex495]

i just got dcs and a flight sim because of your vid keep up the good work:)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Welcome to the community

[@patrickbasin9389]

This is amazing

[@iandingman1920]

If i remember right the fighter version of the viggen was meant to pop out of a hole in the ground and yes i mean that literally take off in a short distance, intercept the issue, and then land again, its a freaking capaple boi. Plus it looks so good trashing on other fighters

[@hellcat611]

This was rad.

[@TheRealAaronSmith]

Pretty sure that F-18 pilot got roasted on that pass 😂

[@AdamosDad]

“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”― Napoleon Bonaparte

[@zordon5171]

I actually flinched Round 3

[@redpilot6388]

I don't know how many of you are aware of this, but the thumping sound being heard from the engine is actually the compressor/s stalling and the flame front from the combustion room shooting out through the intake. Obviously this is an extremely destructive process. LE: You don't need to lower the AOA much, just a bit , to allow the engine to breathe. The plane will perform better. Also, exceding the the maximum coefficient of lift will result in a worse turning plane, not better.

[@themonkeyspaw7359]

Yup. GS is probably not going to learn or read your comment. You can't dogfight without an engine. You kill your engine, you lose.

[@johnbockmann]

"max coefficient of lift" - think you mean stall angle, but absolutely right.

[@redpilot6388]

@@johnbockmann Stall AOA is higher than CLmax AOA. Do you know what CL is? Cause if you don't, I can explain it to you.

[@redpilot6388]

@@themonkeyspaw7359 He may read it, but I really doubt he's going to understand it. We're in the merge.... We need to yank the stick, no other way about it :D He is a darn good fighter, but glaring mistakes like this makes you wonder how good he really is in using the plane effectively.

[@johnbockmann]

@@redpilot6388 yes, please explain it to me.

[@razor1106]

i love your videos man

[@Jay-O_Carlow]

i LOVE these vids

[@timandshannon03]

good old Sven Bangstrum, and his mighty engine hammer! lolololololol

[@Trades46]

Would love to see a JA-37 without Sven in the back banging on the engine do against the same opponents.

[@Al5791]

Hello, I always enjoy the dogfights and BVR "meetings" in your videos. What would interest me would be a BVR fight between Rafale vs F35 and Eurofighter vs F35.

[@futtefutson4863]

You should totally bring out the Draken!

[@tminus1041]

Love your videos man, would it be too much to ask if you showed the model of the Plane sometime during the video?

[@_Centurio_]

Love the enemy killcam

[@jasonpadgett9777]

Hey, I really enjoy your content. Thank you for all that you do. What’s the song/artist playing during the slow motion replays?

[@MrPopcup]

Turn on Closed Captions (CC) Go to 8:19 , " He's not good at raping but he can rape better than me I think". Made me change my shirt as I was drinking some coffee

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Loooooool wow that’s an unfortunate transcription from KZbin

[@orinprime3282]

Have you ever seen the series "Dogfights", which details actual combat situations// This reminds me of that show.

[@ediss821]

growling you are pretty goods pilot.

[@Cuccos19]

1st round: loosing both wings gave you a Starfighter (canards' wingspan). 😅

[@sibowu1188]

The most important utuber to me