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@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын
Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Thank you for watching guys, I hope all of you who wanted an F-22 Differential Thrust dogfights are satisfied with this one. The Flanker is no push over in a dogfight but the F-22 with thrust vectoring is already so dominant that differential thrust doesn't seem to do a whole lot. Anyway thank you for watching and thank you for the suggestions, keep them coming. Much Love.
@SquirrelLover...
@SquirrelLover... Жыл бұрын
Can You Do F/A Super Hornet VS F 35A! Thanks :)
@l1lwayne154
@l1lwayne154 Жыл бұрын
One word; BROKEN😂
@1MADZ
@1MADZ Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video I requested.
@zeropaladin5803
@zeropaladin5803 Жыл бұрын
Raptor vs 4 f14A BVR, give them awacs if you think it still unfair for them. If you want even more challange, go for only having 4 missiles on the raptor. one missile one kill :P
@Shawn-wd4qd
@Shawn-wd4qd Жыл бұрын
I have a challenge for you. Next time you can see the other pilot that has already ejected go shoot him with guns. 1:01 you had the chance
@ScubaShark--8964
@ScubaShark--8964 Жыл бұрын
*_Split Throttle+Thrust Vectoring = 100%Air Superiority_*
@luongduc9119
@luongduc9119 Жыл бұрын
*Laughs in BVR*
@Demane69
@Demane69 Жыл бұрын
@@luongduc9119 Must be an inside joke then, because you'd be dead before you even knew F-22's were there. ;)
@arcaipekyun4232
@arcaipekyun4232 Жыл бұрын
@@luongduc9119 yeah the F22 does that too
@orien-beast_3878
@orien-beast_3878 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@reboundrides8132
@reboundrides8132 Жыл бұрын
Dogfights are dead
@srthebox4946
@srthebox4946 Жыл бұрын
As if thrust vectoring wasn’t enough
@artemis8315
@artemis8315 Жыл бұрын
Exactly lmao
@coffeewithbeans6209
@coffeewithbeans6209 Жыл бұрын
bruh ye
@dawsonkozel4171
@dawsonkozel4171 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@jjhilldodger
@jjhilldodger Жыл бұрын
As Hannibal Smith said, "Overkill is underrated."
@STRYKER_b14
@STRYKER_b14 Жыл бұрын
Seriously yeah
@tswims92
@tswims92 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be interesting to do F-22 vs F-22 with one using differential thrust while the other isn’t. That we we can see how much more effective it is when used in this airframe.
@danny_boi3537
@danny_boi3537 Жыл бұрын
I'd really be surprised if the Raptor won lol
@patchouliknowledge4455
@patchouliknowledge4455 Жыл бұрын
@@danny_boi3537 No, you should be more surprised if the raptor won! If it did win, that would make be very surprised that the Raptor won against the Raptor
@Karlan_
@Karlan_ Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@sword199723
@sword199723 Жыл бұрын
felon vs f22
@IamusTheFox
@IamusTheFox Жыл бұрын
I feel like that would still end up being more on the pilot rather than the differential thrust.
@bleakambition495
@bleakambition495 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely in love with the external shots from a distance, really puts the fight into proportion with its environment and gives a good feel to what it would be like to witness it from the ground
@NickArcieri
@NickArcieri Жыл бұрын
3:19 You gave the Flanker permanent differential thrust.
@jimmcneal5292
@jimmcneal5292 Жыл бұрын
ahahaha
@dumplingcat4215
@dumplingcat4215 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@ceboz
@ceboz Жыл бұрын
Pilot “Can we..” Raptor “Yep”
@henyr8464
@henyr8464 Жыл бұрын
Lol yes
@StrikeEagIe
@StrikeEagIe Жыл бұрын
Actually funny lol
@baginatora
@baginatora Жыл бұрын
Raptor (in Terminator voice): "No problemo"
@jarhead1031
@jarhead1031 Жыл бұрын
Gotta thank the new top gun for inspiring all these banger split throttle vids
@SupaMan2122
@SupaMan2122 Жыл бұрын
Yet we still don’t have one of f14 using split throttle vs felon
@tinkertalksguns7289
@tinkertalksguns7289 Жыл бұрын
I remember when the SU27 was viewed as one of the greatest dogfighters in the sky. Now it's just dogmeat for the F22. Wow.
@Cstr0yer
@Cstr0yer Жыл бұрын
The same with the su-57 would be cool, since the engines are further apart it might work even better, so if this is possile, would be cool to see ;)
@shahriarkhan1220
@shahriarkhan1220 Жыл бұрын
I guess F22 itself is a aim9x with a gun
@jasonnato5682
@jasonnato5682 Жыл бұрын
A320 vs B737 Dogfight please :)
@cengizteouluyurt7053
@cengizteouluyurt7053 Жыл бұрын
Lmaooo, yes please
@WizNick1532
@WizNick1532 Жыл бұрын
yoo
@YankeeVatnik1917
@YankeeVatnik1917 Жыл бұрын
If that's possible get sully sullenberger on and fight him to the death.
@Cstr0yer
@Cstr0yer Жыл бұрын
XD
@TheUnsungHeroes
@TheUnsungHeroes Жыл бұрын
Good question
@Pythos_Sapunov
@Pythos_Sapunov Жыл бұрын
As someone who followed the YF-22 and YF-23 in their development, and eventually worked for 7 years on the F-22 itself, i can say that the F-22 was designed with dogfighting in mind, based on the data of our previous generations of aircraft. F-4s were designed without guns because "dogfighting is obsolete" yet they were winding up getting into dogfights. Every Fighter aircraft that we have, F-16, F-15, F-22 and F-35 are built around the idea "Eventually you're going be in this situation" instead of "you'll never be in this situation."
@jeffwilmot5522
@jeffwilmot5522 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of a difference it'd actually make here since the nozzles are so tight together... whereas on the F-14 they're widely set apart.
@Demane69
@Demane69 Жыл бұрын
I think it may have more to do with the difference in computer control and design. Old school fighters benefit from every mechanical advantage you can throw at it. The computer makes the F-22 perform beyond human control as it is, which is reflective in it's design as well.
@Noisy_Cricket
@Noisy_Cricket Жыл бұрын
It helped the F15 alot when he tried it.
@profo4544
@profo4544 Жыл бұрын
yeah this is what i said. Same reason as if you lose thrust on a trijet, like a dc-10 or a L1011 since the engines are close together losing thrust in one doesnt throw the plane off really. As opposed to wing mounted jets with engines far apart, they need to do alot of retrimming and correcting the stick constantly to keep it flying straight.
@darthsarcastus1064
@darthsarcastus1064 Жыл бұрын
Goes to show what digital controls and fly by wire can do versus older technology. Split throttling in an F-14 could induce a flat spin, many newer fighters can compensate for this with computer controlled control surfaces and better training for pilots.
@inorite4553
@inorite4553 Жыл бұрын
@@chuckfarley4130 d^2y/dx^2 of Cosine of Theta.
@dystopianlucidity4448
@dystopianlucidity4448 Жыл бұрын
I was WAITING patiently for this to get tested! Thanks for doing what your fans request! Amazing first round!
@aggressivelychad
@aggressivelychad Жыл бұрын
I was at Daniel K. Inouye International Airport in 2016, and on the return flight back to the mainland we taxied past a pair of F-22s. I doubt many of the passengers noticed, or if they did, they certainly did not know we were passing by one of the deadliest weapons ever made.
@EndlessInfinity1
@EndlessInfinity1 Жыл бұрын
Sweet! Thank you for testing this! I wonder if the su-57 would be more receptive as, if I remember from your videos, it isn't as agile as the f-22. Also, how about the f-15 stol/mtd?
@Editzify
@Editzify Жыл бұрын
I legit just asked for a F22 vs F15 Stol/mtd lmfao
@midnightrider1100
@midnightrider1100 Жыл бұрын
I think there was an F22 vs SU57 video out there. I think the problem with the SU57 is that there are so few of them and they haven't been effectively put into service and couple that with the fact that last I heard, they were not fitted with the engine they wanted to use in them, and thus, I doubt DCS has an accurate representation of it. It is all theoretical.
@_jaegerboy_
@_jaegerboy_ Жыл бұрын
I would love to see the F-15S/MTD in action
@SupaMan2122
@SupaMan2122 Жыл бұрын
So if SU57 can do it it neutralizes the f14 doing it unless it was horrible pilot in su57
@MrKook
@MrKook Жыл бұрын
@@Editzify he's done F22 vs F15 ACTIVE.
@W1ckedRcL
@W1ckedRcL Жыл бұрын
The differential thrust kinda simulates 3D vectoring for the Raptor because it already has 2D.
@thefakequake
@thefakequake Жыл бұрын
@@chuckfarley4130 it's useful for certain manoeuvres in a dogfight, but that's rare in a modern day context so I'd say you're right
@chadmcelroy4194
@chadmcelroy4194 Жыл бұрын
The F-22, otherwise known as "a little trolling"
@kcmsterpce
@kcmsterpce Жыл бұрын
I like how at 1:10 the engines are winking at the audience. Nicely done!
@Frontier327
@Frontier327 Жыл бұрын
That's the differential thrust
@googlepilot7751
@googlepilot7751 Жыл бұрын
I've heard stories of people watching F-22 fights over Nevada and saying the way they fight is like watching a plane back flip flying backwards....the Raptor is ridiculous.
@berman00
@berman00 Жыл бұрын
You should do F 14 vs F 14. Only difference is that only one is allowed to use differential thrust. See how much of a difference it makes.
@henyr8464
@henyr8464 Жыл бұрын
Good idea
@timsullivan4566
@timsullivan4566 Жыл бұрын
The 9-X missile is like "Why should I bother - ya got guns, dontcha...? (yawns)"
@_jaegerboy_
@_jaegerboy_ Жыл бұрын
You ask the Raptor what it can do and she's always gonna answer with "yes"
@butchblakesley6239
@butchblakesley6239 Жыл бұрын
Do F-22 vsF-22. The only way to see if TV is a factor. Or the SU-57 Felon. Might be interesting. As an old Navy Aircrewman, I truly enjoy your content. I wish you CAVU skies. And equal numbers of takeoffs and landings.
@butchblakesley6239
@butchblakesley6239 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotEmma I have been an aviation enthusiast (he means addict) for 40 or more years. Its nice to see (he is gonna make a gross assumption at this point) a Lady with enthusiasm for Airplanes. It was always men at the field. Flying R/C is my hobby.(again, with him its an addiction) Good to see things changing. Wishing you CAVU skies. If I have put my foot in my mouth here, my apologies.
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich Жыл бұрын
1:00 "I've just broken two of your ribs." *WHACK* "... Sorry, make that three."
@samuelttvbtw
@samuelttvbtw Жыл бұрын
Next: SU-57 differential thrust
@veleriphon
@veleriphon Жыл бұрын
And here we have an F-22 Raptor. Watch as it dances like a leaf on the wind and plays with its food.
@rjlebeau2012
@rjlebeau2012 Жыл бұрын
"ONE OF the most capable dog fighters of all time" as he's gunning down a SU-27 on turn 1 with ease.. there is nothing better, my friend.
@miranda.cooper
@miranda.cooper Жыл бұрын
Really love these ground views you're providing. Seeing a dogfight as if it's an airshow gives it some good perspective!
@kennyj4366
@kennyj4366 Жыл бұрын
I love those external shots. F-22 = Beauty and Grace in motion.
@dylanwight5764
@dylanwight5764 Жыл бұрын
You raised a good point about what the cobra can actually do -- it can give you enough time to punch out in a losing battle and save your life.
@bucky5869
@bucky5869 Жыл бұрын
The maneuverability of the raptor is just plain sick. You might have to take on 3 flankers to make it a bit more fair of a fight.
@derekturner3272
@derekturner3272 Жыл бұрын
The "Cobra" seems great at giving you an extra few seconds to eject... But staying with a stalling plane in a dogfight seems a recipe expediting a meeting with your maker.
@slateman_8490
@slateman_8490 Жыл бұрын
B52 split throttle when?
@picklejarofdeath
@picklejarofdeath Жыл бұрын
5:35 "Civilians, as an apology for dropping a Flanker on your heads and costing you millions in property damage, I will be putting on an airshow for you."
@dameion75
@dameion75 Жыл бұрын
Love the video man. Eagle drivers have been using differential throttles for a long time. A good thing to remember is that the further apart the engines are the better effect the differential thrust will have. Again, awesome video bro keep up the good work!
@andyf104
@andyf104 Жыл бұрын
0:50 That's just like carving a Christmas turkey!
@BlakeJoy
@BlakeJoy Жыл бұрын
F-16 over here being like...if I had two engines, I would show them!
@tyvernoverlord5363
@tyvernoverlord5363 Жыл бұрын
F-CK-1 from Taiwan. 2 Engine "F-16"
@ghost.8445
@ghost.8445 Жыл бұрын
Next Video Idea:- Two same or similar aircraft Differential Thrust Dogfight. Like we know Differential Thrust gives an edge in a dogfight. But It'd be interesting to see what happens when both the aircraft are using Differential Thrust to get that edge. It could be fun, you never know.
@Gillymonster18
@Gillymonster18 Жыл бұрын
Ever seen a cat just pawing a mouse back and forth like it’s bored? The mouse is freaking out desperately doing anything it can….the F-22 is the cat.
@davidhall2197
@davidhall2197 Жыл бұрын
Hot damn, son. The way you were slicing and dicing thru those Flankers your call name should be Ginsu.
Жыл бұрын
Differential thrust was supposed to help an underdog turn the odds, NOT giving even more of an obscene advantage :D ! Also you're very kind offering an air display for the downed pilot to be entertained during the descent :D.
@zachcherry3811
@zachcherry3811 Жыл бұрын
GS when driving his vehicle through a roundabout: "alright, so we're into a two circle turn here with this Mustang, but it's okay because we're going to outrate him in this Corvette."
@danrazART
@danrazART Жыл бұрын
Teachers "hey raptor, you finished your physics assignment?" Raptor " we have physics? 😂
@MattWaller04
@MattWaller04 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit that first kill. HE WASN’T READYYYYYYY 😂😂😂
@johnmarek1103
@johnmarek1103 Жыл бұрын
I love how chill you are when filming. love ur vids man keep up the hard work.
@johnhutsler8122
@johnhutsler8122 Жыл бұрын
A legit challenge would be the SU-57 vs F-22 - A regular match at first to get to know the turning capabilities and normal behavior during the fight, and then using the Diff. Thrust to see if any advantages can be seen
@nathanielrose6782
@nathanielrose6782 Жыл бұрын
Cobra extends your life for a few more seconds, long enough to think about your life choices and eject
@NationChosenByGod
@NationChosenByGod Жыл бұрын
The Yf-22 was originally designed with two machine guns on both sides so that implies the Yf-22 was meant for masters at wvr, and capable of bvr as well.
@brandon7136
@brandon7136 Жыл бұрын
If the AIM9X was missing that bad imagine the 9M.
@helplmchoking
@helplmchoking Жыл бұрын
How to reliably dogfight a Raptor: Eject as soon as possible, assuming you even see the damn thing
@Thomas-zc4vh
@Thomas-zc4vh Жыл бұрын
Hey Growling Sidewinder! Can you do F-16 vs F-16 or any jets vs Longshot? (BVR and Dogfight) I was thinking you sould show both point of views to see what you and Longshot were think. I think it would be different but very interesting! Thanks!
@michellehsu5158
@michellehsu5158 Жыл бұрын
The cobra is basically the extended life warranty for the pilots
@303Pinker
@303Pinker Жыл бұрын
That su 27 was doing some wild manovers but F22 is just different animal 💪
@ohmygoshitscole
@ohmygoshitscole Жыл бұрын
The tail shots look like a furby opening one of its eyes, menacingly
@patatabrozne7548
@patatabrozne7548 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a A10 differential thrust with it on a dogfight?
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 Жыл бұрын
4:06 The Flanker doesn’t even last for NINE seconds 😳
@draleigh8881
@draleigh8881 Жыл бұрын
the f 22 was designed to be the best fighter jet in the sky at everything. bvr, dogfighting, you name it... it's the best. period.
@scappley1735
@scappley1735 Жыл бұрын
You're harnessing so much potential from the F-22 that the government is on edge
@jakeedwards5306
@jakeedwards5306 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see differential thrust in WW2 aircraft like the P38 Lightning!
@appalachianoperator
@appalachianoperator Жыл бұрын
That first one has a shit ton of trust me bro energy
@Konanzor
@Konanzor Жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to do some unit tests on DT? Just wondering if it's a placebo effect kicking in. Would be good to see the F-14 doing rolls/turns etc. with and without DT and see what sort of angles and rates you're achieving with and without it. Also interested to see what happens with a full single engine shut down vs just the AB being turned off.
@brandons9398
@brandons9398 Жыл бұрын
GS you bust me up! “After all is said and done, might as well put on a little air show.” LMAO!
@henryl531
@henryl531 Жыл бұрын
You publish your videos usually an hour before my lunch. First thing I do is watch it. Keep it up!
@TheFlyingSailorYT
@TheFlyingSailorYT Жыл бұрын
The F-22 is already OP... now it's god-like.
@marcbow
@marcbow Жыл бұрын
The F-22 doesn't obey the laws of physics. You must have had a defective batch of 9x's loaded out! I especially couldn't believe that last one, there no way it should have missed!
@sls12III
@sls12III Жыл бұрын
"How do you make the most maneuverable jet more maneuverable?" GS:
@kevw25
@kevw25 Жыл бұрын
The F22 can fly like how I imagined fighter planes could fly when I was 5 and playing with model planes
@__-fm5qv
@__-fm5qv Жыл бұрын
The F-22: For when you don't want physics to happen...
@OCinneide
@OCinneide Жыл бұрын
Differential thrust helped me get rid of my alcohol addiction.
@rodneyjacobs1228
@rodneyjacobs1228 Жыл бұрын
Here we have the rare F-22 in it's natural environment, playing with its food.
@carsons4896
@carsons4896 Жыл бұрын
The "behind the Raptor" shot while executing diff thrust was dope. Reminded me of a winking Ferbi! LOL
@MegaEvoluzione
@MegaEvoluzione Жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to this valiant poor little flanker
@truthseeker9454
@truthseeker9454 Жыл бұрын
OK, that tail on view was great -- thanks for that, GS!
@TimbavatiLion
@TimbavatiLion Жыл бұрын
After the Cobra, the Flanker was fighting for it's life just to not bellyflop on the ground. He lost so much speed... Pure airshow maneuver, not for combat 😄
@ernestobeltran7802
@ernestobeltran7802 Жыл бұрын
Love watching these videos. I've even started downloading it for being a spectator for over a few months. Any tips on learning these flying techniques? Keep up the content! The F22 is definitely a beast!
@sebsunda
@sebsunda Жыл бұрын
Note of the Cobra Maneuver: You want to use the inverted one if you have to use it. It give you better energy recuperation options at the exit. Naturally, you need a bit of height if you are to use it as that kinetic energy recuperation will come at the expense of your potential energy. But at least you will be less vulnerable than if you would have used the regular cobra.
@303Pinker
@303Pinker Жыл бұрын
Any type of cobra is kind of desperation. Even cobra in downward direction. As GS pointed out cobra gives just a few more seconds of life till other plane go around and finish job. Even downward half split without Cobra is risky cause of tremendous energy lost. Imagine other plane don't follow downward but go high yoyo and finish plane sitting just below without initiative and speed.
@crawson0311
@crawson0311 Жыл бұрын
Went to an airshow earlier in the summer and the f22 there was doing things I expect to see in a scifi movie. Later the pilot was singing photos and he said it was a pretty easy day. The tricks he was doing was nothing to what it CAN do.
@worldsedge4991
@worldsedge4991 Жыл бұрын
Awesome shockwave @3:35. I did not realize those spread so far.
@Maxthepro1012
@Maxthepro1012 Жыл бұрын
Quote by Growling Sidewinder : You dont need that wing dude😂
@StephenAngelico
@StephenAngelico Жыл бұрын
5:17 If dogfighting wasn't that important for the F-22, it would be the F-23 instead. The official reason the YF-22 won over the YF-23 was because the YF-22 was more maneuverable, which set it apart from previous low-observable aircraft ie the F-117 and B-2.
@magnummax78
@magnummax78 Жыл бұрын
The F-22 against anything is like Mike Tyson fighting the world toughest toddler.🫣
@rattleheadx
@rattleheadx Жыл бұрын
Somebody needs to find out the lot number on those Sidewinders... They gotta go back to the factory!
@christophergrow
@christophergrow Жыл бұрын
I think its a huge mistake to think that this isn't already built into the Fly By Wire system in the F-22. Who every built the F-22 model should already be doing this
@LowSparkofHighHeeledBoys
@LowSparkofHighHeeledBoys Жыл бұрын
When you fly the F22 you need to tie both your legs to the chair, one hand behind your back, turn your chair 90° to the monitor and wear an eye patch over your dominant eye. Give the other pilots a fighting chance. 😂😂😂
@CasualAmin
@CasualAmin Жыл бұрын
He gives the flanker differential thrust by taking out an engine lmao
@MC88AATW
@MC88AATW Жыл бұрын
I clocked out for lunch and within seconds, a GS video appears. It's a good day now.
@SwingArmCity
@SwingArmCity Жыл бұрын
Guy flying the Su27 probably smashed his computer. "Might as well eject immediately once you find out its an F22!!haha
@BRCIce
@BRCIce Жыл бұрын
Always fun to watch your show. Thanks buddy.
@thesolstice_8122
@thesolstice_8122 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact the F-22 Is the only aircraft in service with the US that is NOT ALLOWED to be sold to anybody.
@MidnightAspec
@MidnightAspec Жыл бұрын
The F-22 is simply ridiculous!! It’s like trying to take MJ23 - in his prime - one on one.
@trealosgaming3345
@trealosgaming3345 Жыл бұрын
The two woundings were cruel as you circled like a shark
@cemags1315
@cemags1315 Жыл бұрын
F-22 is essentially just drifting in the air
@ph1ni422
@ph1ni422 Жыл бұрын
6:50 - Beautiful... Exactly how the Raptor acts. Maintains energy with angle of attacks. Sus do not. 1 Cobra and they stall. Raptors balance energy and maneuverability.
@Miguelcooldude777
@Miguelcooldude777 Жыл бұрын
Day 94 asking for F35C vs F/A-18F Super Hornet
@drew2046
@drew2046 Жыл бұрын
The cobra seems like a double or nothing kinda thing. If you do it and are able to capitalize on it immediately you get the kill. If you don’t then your dead
@NovosOrdoMundi
@NovosOrdoMundi Жыл бұрын
Love these vids. Really think thrust diff is a waste or handicap compared to full X/Y thrust vector for real world application. Keep up the awesome work Growls. I wish & could sit around playing DCS all day. You literally have my dream job.
@gymcelsocialism
@gymcelsocialism Жыл бұрын
Your F-22 piloting makes the arcade flying in AC7 look reasonable by comparison. Unreal performance out of you and that machine
@michellehsu5158
@michellehsu5158 Жыл бұрын
And in 3:13 the pilot says: I can control it! And in 3:34 he says: I SHOULD PROBABLY EJE-
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