GTA IV - The Lost and Damned Retrospective

GTA IV - The Lost and Damned Retrospective
Part 2 of my GTA IV Retrospective, this time on the first DLC expansion, The Lost and Damned.
#GTAIV #thelostanddamned #grandtheftauto

[@isaacgarcia771]

The Lost And Damned is my favorite version of GTA ever. The way Johnny, Clay, and Terry were done dirty in GTA5 still bugs me.

[@leapoldstotch4987]

Yeah the unlikely meth head seemed a bit far fetched!

[@nicslayer8018]

After everything Johnny has done in liberty just for rockstar to make him look weak and kill him off to make Trevor look crazy it’s just so stupid how they did Johnny

[@isaacgarcia771]

@@nicslayer8018 Agreed.

[@jamesgatz5301]

I kill Trevor every time because of how he did Johnny K dirty.

[@AH-is5yg]

yeah, they should have given Johnny and the others a proper death scene instead of that.

[@tylertwinkletips1745]

I appreciated the biker aesthetic, Johnny as a character, and his pretty tragic story. This is one of my favorite DLCs

[@nobodyjustacreep]

Same... Probly the most relatable to me even when i was 12, its always been my favorite. My mom's side of the family tho were bikers so that probly contributed to it being my favorite.... Makes me sad the way they killed johnny

[@lullaby.for.arsonists7329]

@@nobodyjustacreep just ignore the GTA 5 story, non of them really matter to eachother anyway

[@noe9379]

Johnny was the most realistic character for me. Lost but not forgotten!

[@subjectdelta17]

​@nobodyjustacreep just remember that Johnny is canonically killed by Trevor 5 years later and there's nothing you can do about it. Pretending like it's not canon is like Johnny pretending that Ash would change her ways. It's pure delusion

[@oliverpony]

One thing you forgot to mention that Unlike GTA 4 where you can fall off a bike easier in this game your butt is glued

[@DeadPixel1105]

The way Rockstar treated Johnny in GTA 5 was really disappointing. Also, the way he's represented in GTA 5 seems really 'out of character' and just out of nowhere. We see in the Lost and Damned DLC that Johnny is a pretty rational and level-headed guy, as was pointed out in this video. He never shows any interest in doing hard drugs or being a degenerate (like Ashley). And by the end of the DLC it seems as Johnny has really grown and matured even more. He's much smarter, wiser, and mentally stronger. He finally tells off Ashley, for example - realizing that she's nothing but trouble and a waste of time and effort. But then in GTA 5, Johnny is suddenly a strung-out meth addict. And he's back with Ashley and seems totally devoted to her and head-over-heels in love with her - going so far as to even get himself killed over her. Seeing what Johnny is like at the end of the Lost and Damned DLC and then seeing what he's like in GTA 5, it just makes no sense at all. I really don't understand what the Rockstar writers were thinking. It makes no sense.

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

Yes! Thank you! I'm saving it till I review GTA V, but I couldn't agree more. Honestly I think they did it for shock value, origionally wanted it to be Nico (his Voice actor was beefing with them hard over pay) and they bitched out and went with Johnny.

[@DeadPixel1105]

@@fuzzyslippersyt Looking forward to your GTA V review! You make fantastic videos. The devs originally were going to use Niko in GTA V, rather than Johnny? I never knew that. Even though it's stupid that they used Johnny, it would have been WAY worse if they used Niko, for sure. That would have been even more out of character and nonsensical lol Have a great night! Merry Christmas to you and your fam.

[@danbardos3498]

100% agree. If they couldn't have Niko (I don't even like that idea, miserable as he was) they should have replaced him with a new character or just scrapped the scene.

[@DrsJacksonn]

@@fuzzyslippersyt Johnny ending up like that was sad enough. Doing it to Niko would have been too big an insult.

[@big420playa]

cause they showed he’s main weak, falling in love on a drug addict girl which was using him to solve her problems, even in dialogue in gta 4 Malcom said bout this but Johny didnt want to hear him. This is perfect story bout strong person but falling cause of his kindness

[@bramv7174]

It still sucks what happend to Johnny in GTA V. He deserved better!

[@n.b.l.5709]

For real

[@ADotThaGod]

“You’re a good man Johnny, things shoulda worked out better for ya” -Angus

[@fistovuzi]

they did my boy Johnny dirty. F

[@harveyanimations8974]

Trevor obviously thought otherwise

[@anthonyh8154]

The thing with Rockstar nowadays, is that for some odd reason they've re-used way too many characters from previous games. Makes it feel effortless and stagnant. Johnny, Ashley, Bruce, Gay Tony, Terry & Clay, Rocco, Karen (Michelle), Packie, Willie, Poppy, Marnie, Kerry, Al Di Napoli, I can't say Lazlow since he's been in a ton of gta's but I think I've made my point.

[@TheCakeIsNotLie]

honestly, i just played through the dlc for the first time and got the impression that, for a rough tough killer biker, johnny was actually a really good guy

[@lullaby.for.arsonists7329]

He spends the entire game trying to make everyone just do business and consistently goes out of his way to help people and Ashley up until the end, all for GTA 5 just to trash their story. (which mind you THEY themselves wrapped up) Really burns my ass dawg

[@udaythambimuthu3176]

Not an criminals are pieces of shit, you know, even murderers can have their good qualities. Nobody is born evil, and it takes some people a lot longer to lose their souls, if they ever do. Unfortunately though, the gangsta lifestyle is not one that rewards compassion, wisdom, or forethought. People are complicated, especially people stuck in the life, with seemingly no way out. You try to minimize the collateral damage, right up until something breaks you, and you either find a way out, or you become one of the monsters. Seems like the guys with a conscience die first, though.

[@hey01e5]

13 year old me was SO angry watching klebitz become out of character and killed off for cheap shock value, just to make a shocking spotlight for the new, "badass" protagonist. he deserved so much better. terry and clay was just salt in the wound johnny klebitz got the joel miller treatment loooong before joel miller also got killed in a bs way.

[@Arthur-Goddamn-Morgan]

R.I.P Johnathan "Johnny" Klebitz Lost but not forgotten

[@Alduin3914]

I bloody love this game, badass story. And it had a kickass theme song when the game starts, and guitar solo song when you finish the missions.

[@genuinesaucy]

The airport assassination mission is one of my all-time favorites. I botched it big time, and the guy started running away down the tarmac too far for me to catch, but there was a helicopter nearby, so I got in it, flew up behind him, and mulched him with the rotor blades. His ragdoll went cartwheeling into the ocean, and I flew off into the sunset to the Mission Complete jingle.

[@labelnine]

Billy speech in beginning of the videos reminds me of Dutch Van Der Linde speech , the leader of the gang that disapointted in the modern world and with his own philopshy living free , whole tlad dlc is like red dead 2 storytelling , confrontantions in the gang between themselves , and Johnny has his own allies and they are also has doubts in their leader Billy and thinks he looking for fighting , chaos like with Dutch

[@senormarston]

"Oh, stop, domestic violence" 😂😂 that line cracks me up

[@rosagem542]

The part I like the most about the scene where Johnny goes to pick up Marta, is that he confronts the man harassing her as soon as he sees it, not even aware who she is until he asks.

[@TK-hs8pt]

jason is 100% bill burr 🤣

[@dakotagreen9199]

Imagine if niko was in gta 6 and died 2 seconds into the game by getting g hit by a truck while crossing the road. That's how I felt when trevor killed johnny

[@user-fp8mn6sv5c]

@hishenmathurin2844 But didn't Johnny disband the Lost in his story, broke up with Ashley and said that he was going to support his dead friend's family? It really seemed like a clean start and then R* flushed all of this into a toilet

[@jankemjunkie6564]

@@user-fp8mn6sv5cI think it’s a round about way of saying karma’s a bitch

[@TripleR250]

2008 - 2009 Sons of Anarchy mercenaries 2 GTA Lost and Dammed was a great time to be into Bikers!

[@JAYtheJAILER]

TLAD will always be my favorite gta game I was so upset when Johnny got killed in 5.

[@mdogg094]

The number one thing the Lost and the Damned did for Rockstar’s game dev practices is introduce mission checkpoints. That’s the main reason I am way more likely to replay the dlcs for gta iv over the main game!

[@_Boobear_]

Pretty cool that Bill Burr voiced Jason in both games

[@GlennDavey]

So... hear me out. John Marston in Red Dead Redemption is basically a biker from Lost and Damned. All the mo-cap styles and clothing choice fit a biker stuck in a Western more than a true cowboy. They keep calling him a "city man"... like he's meant to be on a bike not a horse.

[@nicslayer8018]

Not gonna lie I lowkey agree and see john marston as a biker 😂

[@mrwillard95]

Bruh... you may be on to something here.

[@GlennDavey]

@@mrwillard95 One game was made directly after the other, so it's how they were trying to bring modern GTA fans into an old Western game

[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

The fact both the Lost and the Van Der Linde gang had a similar story of tragedy makes this comparison even more worthy.

[@Originalchili]

I mean yea, bikers are meant to represent the old style freedom, hell, "steel horse I ride" is about a motorcycle

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

Thanks for watching! If you missed it, you can watch the first part of the GTA IV Retrospective here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHXIZ6V8q7aEb6s

[@GlennDavey]

10:21 "the problems with the lar" what accent is that? Genuine question. Boston, something like that?

[@abluecar5375]

The gang is just called "The Lost" which derives from Vietnam veterans naming the club after their lost comrades The Lost And Damned is just the title of the game lol

[@HefYT]

These videos are amazing, and I’m glad I found them considering i’ve been playing gta iv lately.

[@GlennDavey]

Lost and Damned became Biker Gangs in GTA online. And BoGT became the Nightclub. A lot of the good stuff from GTAIV was folded into GTA Online. Pity its missing a lot of other stuff. Hopefully VI brings back some favourites

[@GlennDavey]

6:16 The original Dutch Van Der Linde

[@GlennDavey]

12:35 Billy gives a big Dutch Van Der Linde speech

[@GlennDavey]

37:11 John[ny] and Dutch on the cliff

[@thecricket1564]

I hate how dirty gta5 does the lost. Even in gta5 online the lost is the "punching bag" gang in it. Whenever I'm doing biker missions I'm always killing lost mc members. Which I dislike doing but oh well.

[@Xyoni_htklv]

I may be in minority but I really liked the GTA IV story and DLCs. And how all of it connected. I only wish GTA V was more like GTA 4 with a serious story instead of going all Fast and Furious style over the top Shit. I know that 90% of the player-based hated the GTA4 story so no hope for a story like this.

[@youmakenosense7437]

LMAO, what? Literally most people agree that GTA IV has the best story in the franchise. Stop trying to feel special with popular opinions, you even have the nerve to create statistics out of nowhere.

[@labelnine]

they pulled of serious story telling in red dead redemption 2 , and it was fantastic

[@newman-tornado1007]

​@@youmakenosense7437Well, the success of ballad of gay tony and gta V pretty much confirms that most people prefer crazy and hollywoodish stories over deep and drepressing writing, at least on the gta franchise.

[@newman-tornado1007]

And judging by it's first trailer, we can already tell that gta VI is going that same route, unfortunatly. With the introduction of 2 main characters instead of 3, and having Red dead redemption 2 as their most recent exemple of storytelling, i'm really hoping that they take a more serious approach on the next game, because gta IV already showed us that it is possible in that crazy universe that gta is in and I love it.

[@therookie5714]

Gta 4 was a depression simulator and I love it for it. I doubt they could do better than gta 4 in terms of darkness and grit

[@juuuxie2631]

This video is so incredibly well made yet so underappreciated (just like this expansion lmao) Def got my sub bro. Can't wait to see you make it big 💪

[@acayette]

Bro can't even read the title right, and it's written all over the logo....

[@randomhobo3614]

If you think about it this way Elizabeta was on the top of her game until her drug use paranoia, which caused deals to go wrong, which then got the feds involved, which then made more paranoia and more bad deal it's very subtle character development

[@YeTheGOATNoCap]

Kinda deflating to play this DLC knowing what happens to the Lost MC in GTA 5.

[@alexs5744]

This little game got me interested in 1% outlaw biker culture.

[@generalkenobi066]

Bikeriders just came out Haven't seen it yet but been hearing good stuff I just find MC lifestyle very cool and appealing Also it's a good setting for telling a good story

[@alexs5744]

@@generalkenobi066 Thanks for me telling me that.

[@madfoxgaming2493]

Underrated story

[@dkaun5811]

Great video man this definitely deserves more likes

[@mrowley7300]

That main theme though

[@Ardeesv]

So this got suggested to me today, I’m 14 minutes in and you’ve already earned yourself a new subscriber! Looking forward to watching your journey 👊

[@kimmoreels7950]

good :)

[@almostfree9255]

This a very good video I don't know why you don't have more subscribers keep up the good work bro

[@googaboogaloo]

@12:08 Jason is voiced by Bill Burr

[@lasarousi]

I'm sure you've already heard this a couple hundred times, but it's real nice to see someone being this focused and "professional" with a small subscriber base.

[@VisComicaV]

hell yeah, dude! been looking forward to this one :)

[@ohmanhotham8823]

Johnny was hands down one of my favorite characters, funny yet badass. While I love Trevor’s character, I wish Johnny was the one to stomp Trevor out.

[@UpstreamNL]

Great video and good overview. I liked both DLCs, but BoGT was slightly more fun

[@notaflightreactsfan3706]

really have been enjoying your channel, keep up the great work these videos are great!

[@Whitejesus425]

Love your videos. Blast from the past lol .

[@cozza819]

Well made video dude.

[@michaelwalsh3474]

I remember playing this back in the day. Seeing your video now and seeing Johnny with a fresh set of eyes really makes the way Trevor takes him out in GTA 5 pretty weird

[@jucalebre7540]

Nice video my man, glad I found your channel

[@Berserkerenergy]

TLAD is still pretty Awesome and One of my Absolute Favorite Biker Game and Johnny Klebitz is One of My Favorite Charachter in The GTA Series and i Still hate that they ruined his Story.

[@Favrefan297]

Rockstar needs a full biker themed GTA.

[@WBM_EXITHUNT]

Amazing video playa

[@vadamane]

When Billy was smoking weed with that one dude, he laced the weed with peyote/mescaline which doesn’t make sense because that cannot be smoked.

[@GlennDavey]

Saves me playing it again

[@douglassfunnie9959]

"They tried so hard and got so far. But in the end it doesn't even matter."

[@TonyfromTO]

That was a great intro quote and song

[@jucalebre7540]

I hate what they did to Johnny GTA V, so shitty

[@Foxo-Matti12]

Johnny deserved better.

[@micahhill4786]

Gta 4 the lost and damned is the predecessor of the Red Dead Redemption2 series. Billy went insane like Dutch and Johnny is very much like Author.

[@TerryThorpeTLMC]

Hearing Jason always makes me think of Bill Burr

[@tylerkovalsky7692]

He voices him so it should. Lol

[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

Bill Burr, Ricky Gervais and Jason Sudeikis. Even if celebrity voice talent was massively scaled down from the 3D Universe games, they still managed to get some heavyweights on board eh

[@harveyanimations8974]

Gang wars are fun as hell

[@rickgrimes8870]

Gosh, I love TLaD.

[@kvndreamteam]

As Johnny was leaving the museum, he saw some dead bodies Niko left behind. Then Johnny admitted to himself that Niko is a "dangerous mo******cker"...

[@ethankiter9323]

I also like that they brought back some older bikes and vehicles like the Angel from Vice City and the Wayfarer and Slamvan from San Andreas

[@fistovuzi]

been binging some of your vids and just realized i haven't subbed. my bad. subbed. you got some great content, dude.

[@mobgripchamanrogue]

Well made video

[@gogitoDBZ963]

While TLAD came before Sons of Anarchy, I couldn’t help but notice that some of the characters reminded me of the SOA Cast. Billy had a bit of Clay, because he was a President that, ultimately never cared about the club. Johnny had elements of Jax, as both wanted to restore their club to its former glory, and lead it in the right direction, eventually becoming President themselves. Brian was a weird one. It’s either Juice or Tig. Because Juice betrayed the club, to protect a secret of his (Which none of the members ever cared about anyway) and Tig, because he was Clay’s Right Hand. And would back him no matter what. But unlike Brian, he actually saw that, his President wasn’t ALWAYS in the right. Can’t say the rest of the TLAD cast reminds me of the SOA Cast. Maybe Ashley, because Wendy had a drug problem. At the very least, Wendy actually wanted to get clean. Ashley just wanted to be high all the time and leech off of Johnny.

[@luisfernandolopez9794]

Yea Grand Theft Auto IV (4) The Lost And Damned DLC was based of off sons of anarchy

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

Heya! I created a supercut combining all 3 of my GTA IV videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jILQZZeJmJWojq8

[@pauljmcmillan]

I loved this.

[@leapoldstotch4987]

This is my favourite dlc was so much fun botg was great too

[@thelastarcadegamer6655]

I hadn’t even heard of SoA when I played the dlc’s

[@ianconroy4365]

never noticed that bill burr voiced jason

[@elchomper.1063]

Best soundtrack of any GTA. Cannibal corpse possessed Dio scorpions.

[@themonsteraddictmmxvi1564]

Jason sounds like Bill Burr Edit: it was Bill Burr. I'm so dumb

[@thehamvskoopa343]

“I am what I am, but I look out for those who help me” say what ya want bout Stubbs he’s honorable for a politician

[@nagger8216]

Only thing I don't get is why would Johnny choose to escalate the conflict with the Angels of Death by doing the Gang Wars? That said, it's still a good new addition

[@babeypete]

considering it had already been escalated, may as well get it done.

[@MacDonald2500]

instant like for Sepultura in the intro

[@Dabadi4834]

Brothers for life lost forever!!!

[@BIGwillTHEGAME]

The Lost MC

[@muther1997]

Gta 5’s johnny was the compete opposite of johnny and was so far from where TLaD left off. And sadly the ones created in gta 5 weren’t great

[@NicholasUmstead]

Shame that the lost became just another enemy crew that try’s to stop you during missions in gta 5

[@vadamane]

The “soup” that the chef hid the diamonds in was actually cake batter. He baked them in there to make it easier to smuggle into the city

[@Detroittruckdoctor55]

My favorite GTA

[@davidb4150]

The 1st minute of this video describes exactly how I originally felt about GTA 4 and the DLCs and how much I appreciate them today, for example I wasn't to happy with GTA 4 didn't play LaD and BaGT 4 or 5 years after the release of GTA 4.

[@Metaltrippin2]

For any metal and hardcore fans the soundtrack has some gems from sepultura all the way to killing time, New York hardcore legends

[@doonishsan]

37:43 Idk if I am remembering this mission wrong, but it was so easy for me I just went in with my chopper with the gang, take out Billy without listening or confronting him and then escape.

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

Chances are you most likely didn't pull a pistol on him, that's what triggers the execution and speech. As for the rest of it, it wasn't bad but you do gotta take a decent amount of cover or get shredded.

[@chi-rome100k]

My SONS OF ANARCHY GAME

[@tone-e3358]

Jesus I'm getting old this game is getting a retrospective lol

[@SHDW-nf2ki]

The Lost NPCs dying super easy made a lot of sense to me because it makes it feel like the gang is in really dire straights when all their members are getting their asses beat.

[@anthonyt219]

Brian trying to mock johnny is so fucking funny lmao

[@Dhips.]

I really enjoyed this DLC. It still annoys me a bit how Rockstar shit all over The Lost in GT5. Frankly it really made it not lcare about Trevor.

[@Sh0ckV]

trevor >>>>> any member of the lost

[@blinkyy1088]

@@Sh0ckVbro really has fucking quotes from GTA V in his account

[@douglasschultz9808]

Ahh 2008! We all thought Xbox 360 and GTA 4 was peak gaming. The Phillies winning the World Series! Sopranos wrapped up and SOA started. Good times.

[@jasonstrauss9156]

Enjoyed but was very short ,Gay Tony was more like GTA 4

[@boxcarthehusky420]

The only thing I liked about the lost and damned was the sawed off double barrel shotgun, the bikes and cars they added. I just wish they were in the main game

[@scottjackson369]

Johnny, lost, but, not forgotten

[@jonasreis90]

Jhonny K. is probally my favorite characte of GTA series, I hate so much how they treated him in GTA V and made me hate even moe Trevor

[@RobertWWD]

I never understood this DLC because not only Billy and Brian never explained why they betrayed Johnny but they raced swapped Jim making the game even more confusing.

[@lasarousi]

I love all of gta4, in my head the DLC content seems a nod to past Rockstar Games in the series. The ballad of gay Tony is like the 3D era, fun personal violence focused on money like vice city. While the lost and damn are like the 2D era of gang focused missions that it's less parody and satire and just gritty vehicular gang violence.

[@robbyg1232]

then he gets stomped out by trevor

[@vadamane]

The gta 4 DLC’s didn’t even come mount 2 years after the original game. I wish they kept working on it for another 6 months or so. We never got to see the full potential of gta 4.

[@mr.andrew7820]

They were working on GTA Chinatown at the same time as 4 and the Dlcs and GTA 5 development was starting in 2009

[@99bigfan]

I didn’t realize Bill Burr voiced Jason lol 12:13

[@twoDie4]

Killing Johnny was the damnest thing Rockstar ever did. And then they later did some half assed memorial for a Halloween event. Terrible.

[@ItzSpookyz1]

Wait a second this was a DLC all along??! I didn’t even realize 😮😮😮

[@ItzSpookyz1]

Um the main game dude I didn’t know much at the time