Guerrilla Girls Talk The History Of Art vs. The History Of Power

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The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

Күн бұрын

Members of the anonymous feminist art collective Guerrilla Girls stopped by The Late Show to talk about the 30 years they've spent trying to make the art world more inclusive.

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@ProfSaxby
@ProfSaxby 8 жыл бұрын
Colbert continues to provide some of the best most diverse guests on late night. educate and entertain!
@mindoverbread1213
@mindoverbread1213 8 жыл бұрын
I love it :-)
@iller3
@iller3 8 жыл бұрын
+Lupin Maru ...it's not "Diverse" if he never affords the same opportunity to other people on the other side of this Identity Politic conflict to discuss the actual Merit argument and whether there's any LAWS in effect or not that are preventing certain groups from getting a fair shot. What they (& you possibly...) might discover, is that Legislation & incentives are already in place to give a disproportionate middleclass minority access to a bigger platform than a much harder working majority-demographic individual below the poverty line is ever granted
@Nosferdamus
@Nosferdamus 8 жыл бұрын
+ilr it's diverse because he is having them explain themselves in front of a group of people unaware to their problem. they are defending their claims by answering his questions. also, they aren't talking about laws they are talking about the popularisation of modern art as a cultural phenomenon, which is controlled by the wealthy majority who purchase said art pieces.
@A_massive_wog
@A_massive_wog 8 жыл бұрын
+ilr The 'other side' is already covered by 90% of the media.
@Nosferdamus
@Nosferdamus 8 жыл бұрын
***** these feminists are actually pretty rational, you seem upset for some reason.
@SuperKillerpickle
@SuperKillerpickle 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot dudes in the comments were triggered by the fact that they are feminist and proceeded to not even listen to the interview.
@LucidDream
@LucidDream 8 жыл бұрын
+SuperKillerpickle Yeah, probably. I used to listen to them, but now I just feel there is no longer a need for feminism. So I really can't stand feminists. There are some things maybe we could help the women with...but for the most part it's just making shit up any more. Feminism has lost it's way and now they don't even consider what they're doing to the rest of society by everyone appeasing the ravenous female. I know it hasn't been great for females, but really they've always been the appropriately protected class...well, since the dawn of man. For the simple fact that they have birth rights. It's always been,"Women and children first." and even today when it's not needed as much...women still expect men to put themselves dead last every time.
@SuperKillerpickle
@SuperKillerpickle 8 жыл бұрын
LucidDream I feel like that's an interesting way of looking at history when it comes to women. Women have for the most part been "protected" because they can give birth. But in other aspects of life, they are second class citizens. Women in most societies in history have been considered to be second class. It's not till now that in American society, that women are treated almost equally. I disagree that there is no longer a need for them. Women are still sexualized more than men in media.(this happening to men is becoming more common). Birth right's of women are stil controlled in many states. Lack of funding for women health issues. There may be less issues, some feminist may be doing it wrong and making a bad name for the movement. But remember that there are feminist doing good, they just aren't as loud as the others.
@SuperKillerpickle
@SuperKillerpickle 8 жыл бұрын
***** What's strongmen about my argument? Just curious
@DrMattDestruction
@DrMattDestruction 8 жыл бұрын
+LucidDream actually, "women and children first" wasn't as common as we thought it was(saw it on qi. a british panel show. i trust the qi elves a good amount.). we would need to save the people that would help the human race survive so men and women with the correct jobs/education would be saved and the rest would sacrifice themselves for the greater good. and real feminists know that men are needed to do the heavy lifting jobs(bouncing, bodyguards, among others) most of the time. and feminists fight for the right to for women to be hit back if the woman is threatening your friends/families' wellbeing. and if the man is the better parent in a m/f relationship, they will fight for that man's right to be the parent. you are probably referring to militant feminists. illogical, they are.
@iller3
@iller3 8 жыл бұрын
+SuperKillerpickle listened to it very carefully. ...As an artist who knows hundreds of other artists and art critics, it's nothing new. "Arty" people trying to find their niche for the first few years are incredibly insecure and petulant and typically take on a Vendetta against any content or material or style they don't understand that's completely outselling them or getting way more praise than them. Yes part of this is just due to how completely Subjective Art is to begin with. But in this case here, it's because they didn't even try. They never mastered any Medium except crying sexism.
@aikifox85
@aikifox85 8 жыл бұрын
Mr. Colbert, thanks so much for being awesome and for exposing viewers to culture and issues they may not otherwise know much about.
@Quarter360
@Quarter360 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly. People need to be warned of this enabling behavior and be warned of its impending indoctrination of college students.
@mindoverbread1213
@mindoverbread1213 8 жыл бұрын
@aikifox85 yes!
@hraghavan10
@hraghavan10 8 жыл бұрын
+Jean Sopu They are promoting equality, not doxxing people. Why so butthurt?
@hraghavan10
@hraghavan10 8 жыл бұрын
***** Why are you cussing? Can't you talk like a normal civilized person? They seemed pretty straightforward and kind to me. They never said, "I hate men, go die!". They simply said that they'd like to see more diversity in art by various genders. Why is this upsetting? They never blamed men. They said that the fault was with the billionaires ( which can be both male/female) who don't give as many opportunities to women. Why are you all so on the offensive?
@hraghavan10
@hraghavan10 8 жыл бұрын
***** Wait, so let me follow your line of thinking: "...waffling about cultural appropriation, sexism, racism, and sending of social media bully mobs to browbeat anyone who dares to not immediately jump to fulfill all their whims." Why would you be racist/sexist in the first place? If you are racist/sexist, they have every right to shut you down. "Nothing prevents them to open their own gallery where they can put anything they want, but that would require actual effort, but since feminists lack drive, skills, talent and will to create, they'll just brand all those things as microaggression and continue to do what they always do - latch on the existing enterprise and demand it will be shaped to their wishes..." They never said they they weren't opening their galleries or doing their own forms of art. They simply said that they were artists in real life, but aside from that, they want to promote equality in the art industry. This doesn't mean that they're telling people to burn all the paintings men made, they just want to see paintings women made up as well. They also advocate for people of color. "...it will then be followed by mandatory quotas for substandard art only because vagina, some diversity officer to whip people into the right thinking, petitions against art galleries, banning of art they deem unacceptable..." Again, they never talked about discarding or banning male art. They simply talked about seeing female art in there. This is the same issue they talked about above. If 85% of paintings are nude females, why shouldn't we get more females in the art industry? If you find the idea of adding a painting done by a woman in a more popular art gallery like the Guggenheim "hijacking" or "Adding Mandatory Quotas", I really don't know what to say.
@PBbelongsMe
@PBbelongsMe 8 жыл бұрын
the comment section is pretty disgusting
@creamybass
@creamybass 8 жыл бұрын
+PBbelongsMe i hope you engage with others in the comments to try change their beliefs. instead of, you know, just vaguely complaining.
@mindoverbread1213
@mindoverbread1213 8 жыл бұрын
@PBbelongsMe Its expected, unfortunately
@mindoverbread1213
@mindoverbread1213 8 жыл бұрын
+Jim Knopf hahahahahaha
@PBbelongsMe
@PBbelongsMe 8 жыл бұрын
+Jim Knopf What strikes me here is that the hate comments which usually have no upvotes or just a few are getting multiple upvotes. This is also reflected by the up and downvote ratio....
@PBbelongsMe
@PBbelongsMe 8 жыл бұрын
+Ash Bartlett I doubt that my english is good enough to participate in in-depth discussions about feminism in the art world. And most of the people who post idiotic things are not gonna change their opinion just because someone in the comment section told them to overthink their viewpoint...
@TheOneAndOnlyNAB
@TheOneAndOnlyNAB 8 жыл бұрын
Of course this has a fair amount of dislikes. Some dudes who don't even care about art in the first place probably watched the video and, due to their disdain for anything labeled "feminist", they felt whiny and disliked the video out of spite.
@skimaskedjak
@skimaskedjak 4 жыл бұрын
New wave feminism has ruined relationships between men and women. The "liberated" women is not happier than her married with 3 kids counterpart.
@nape1713
@nape1713 3 жыл бұрын
unfortunately, you are not the one and only nag. jealousy is not generally "liked". frida kahlo is my favorite artist by far because i like her shit, not cuz she's a little jealous winer. stay away from socialism.
@jessicadamico9381
@jessicadamico9381 Жыл бұрын
@@skimaskedjak "New wave feminism has ruined relationships between men and women." uh-oh, looks like someone's having trouble getting laid. wonder why.
@StanMarsh1
@StanMarsh1 8 жыл бұрын
Dear god, why did I read the comments?!
@FilmKiln
@FilmKiln 8 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the internet will love this interview.
@josephj714
@josephj714 8 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, it's also about class too, here in the UK at least. Coming from a family where my father is a community artist working with disadvantaged people, like those that are homeless, it really shocks me how the art world doesn't value how art can help the less fortunate. All art does these days is increase the wealth of the wealthy, it's very limiting.
@8jb65
@8jb65 8 жыл бұрын
I remember from my aesthetics class a discussion about the idea of "genius" and how only those with "genius" could be true artists. Unfortunately, how the term was defined by mid nineteenth century thinkers effectively precluded the idea of a female artistic genius, and thus artistic works by women were typically dismissed. It is interesting how some ideas like "women's place is necessarily in the home" or "women can't run a business" faded away, but this one in particular still influences what people think about "artists," despite the presence and discovery of women artists from more sexist time periods.
@ydin9
@ydin9 8 жыл бұрын
That Steven's question @1:00 just shows what an excellent interviewer he can be. Thanks Stephen.
@TheZombiecowmeat
@TheZombiecowmeat 8 жыл бұрын
I bet one of them is Shia Labeouf
@vsh1998
@vsh1998 8 жыл бұрын
I mean, why would anyone choose a painting for another solely based on gender? Maybe it's just that there aren't as many women artists as men(I don't have statistics to back me up). I think art is beautiful because it doesn't matter who the artist is, it matters what the artist wants to potray through their painting. I'm a feminist, but this feels completely unnecessary. Fight for bigger things like Wage gaps for gods sakes.
@alfriesmacdonalds5879
@alfriesmacdonalds5879 8 жыл бұрын
+Merc With A Mouth Wage Gap is a hoax honey.
@vsh1998
@vsh1998 8 жыл бұрын
+Myo swe Well, you get my point.
@maiathebee410
@maiathebee410 8 жыл бұрын
+Merc With A Mouth a large point of this interview is that the art world today is highly commercialized in a way that means it is controlled by the wealthy, who largely make decisions and choices based on commercial value of work rather than the aesthetic value of work. In a lot of ways that leads to the lack of progress in whose work gets chosen -- meaning the art world looks a lot like it did 30 years ago. If what matters is what an artist portrays, don't you want a variety of view points and different images? What Guerilla Girls are advocating for is aesthetic diversity. And whether or not you agree with this idea, you should know it's absolutely untrue that there are just fewer female artists (and I would say it's also nonsense that there are fewer good female artists, but believe what you want, I guess). For just general reference -- at both SAIC and RISD, two of the top 5 arts colleges in the US, the gender balance stands at something like 30% male to 70% female. Many of these women become successful artists, but hit a brick wall in their careers when they reach these prestigious art museums. I think that's a bummer for everyone.
@alfriesmacdonalds5879
@alfriesmacdonalds5879 8 жыл бұрын
Maia the Bee " it is controlled by the wealthy, who largely make decisions and choices based on commercial value of work rather than the aesthetic value of work. In a lot of ways that leads to the lack of progress in whose work gets chosen" Quote from you^^ The statement i am quoting has nothing to do with gender. What Guerilla Girls are advocating for is to be GENDER BIASED.
@vsh1998
@vsh1998 8 жыл бұрын
+Maia the Bee Like I said, I didn't check for statistics, and I clearly stated the word "maybe". Seeing how you have proof, I've changed my mind. I do however still believe it's ludicrous to think you're not given an opportunity in the elite world of art based on gender.
@betty2377
@betty2377 7 жыл бұрын
Why, if men believe in equal rights aren't THEY creating a movement for men fghting to beat the patriarchy. Why are they pressuring a group of women who are focused on women's rights - to focus on men. If these men who are criticizing feminists truly wanted equality, then they would do something about it themselves. Men are asking a group of people they are oppressing - to instead turn their attention towards fixing things for them. Typical. Socialized sexism involves the notion that women should shutup & listen, while men's are the one's talking. If these men had actually taken the time to challenge their sexism - they would know not to even come into feminism asking women to drop what they're doing and listen to men, but not only that but to adopt the task of caregiver to men once again, and fix all the things that are broken about him. If men want to fight the patriarchy and how it's damaged them, start your own group. Look to the MRA on how to do it wrong first, then start your own group & fight. When the time comes & we see that group is doing a solid job of the stances they're taking and the actions they're taking then perhaps feminists & they will band together to say the same thing and make their voices stronger. But men really have been needing to step it the fuck up since the beginning, and that's still an ongoing issue.
@valvalrox
@valvalrox 8 жыл бұрын
lmao at all the misogynistic comments from all genders
@theohaegele9011
@theohaegele9011 3 жыл бұрын
Not since Alice Neel was on Johnny Carson do I remember a late night host interviewing a contemporary artist! Thank you Mr. Colbert, and thank you to the Guerilla Girls for being wonderful, clever, and unapologetic!
@betty2377
@betty2377 7 жыл бұрын
I losed faith in men when i started reading this comments.
@pestilencepathogenic
@pestilencepathogenic 7 жыл бұрын
People here are so salty. Half of you are jumping to conclusions about the Guerrilla Girls and then there is a small group that is just looking to troll people, and then the rest are trying to talk to people who have no interest in hearing anything outside of their own voice.
@Graytune
@Graytune 8 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. It's one of the best things I've seen Stephen do recently; educational and funny. Very well done.
@flirtylaxgirl
@flirtylaxgirl 8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that he has diversity in his guest appearances. I have a degree in Art History. I wonder how many female artists are represented at the Denver Art Museum...
@Steve27775
@Steve27775 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many female artists I can name, off the top of my head. Frida Kahlo, Tracey Emin, Rachel Whiteread, Gillian Wearing, Sarah Lucas, Jenny Saville, Louise Borgeouis (sp?), Beryl Cook, Barbara Hepworth (mostly Brits).
@interrexclamacion
@interrexclamacion 5 жыл бұрын
1. You Googled this. 2. What point are you trying to make again?
@rachelransom9455
@rachelransom9455 6 ай бұрын
Merian, Gentileschi, Fontana, Anguissola, Nelli, De Rossi, Le Brun, Morisot, Cassatt, O'keeffe, Leibovitz, Ringgold, heck, Yoko Ono!
@LordOfTheBored
@LordOfTheBored 8 жыл бұрын
Stephen is best. No other late night talker would invite guests like that into his show. And they really got a point...
@mikecantreed
@mikecantreed 8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how Colbert is the higher brow late night show but this is absurd. Why give this fringe group any TV time? There must be wayyyyy more important causes to highlight.
@PaladinusSP
@PaladinusSP 8 жыл бұрын
I guess billionaires buy more art by female artists now, but I don't think the paradigm of art being controlled by the rich has been changed at all.
@LaneK2006
@LaneK2006 8 жыл бұрын
At least their beliefs can get them on a popular late night show. Sad their art can't do the same.
@Quarter360
@Quarter360 8 жыл бұрын
maybe it's because their art is gimmicky and stupid.
@Quarter360
@Quarter360 8 жыл бұрын
Prakersh TBH I think these women are upset people don't value their art enough (in other words they believe people should *not be governed by self-interest*). I'm sure they would love to reorient people's desires to what they believe is beautiful, especially if what happens to be beautiful is their art ($$$).
@Prakersh
@Prakersh 8 жыл бұрын
Nick Rhodes that new Renaissance these women talk about can never come unless the majority of them stop focusing on mundane things such as "getting thin in less than 30 days" or "how to look beautiful for your beau in seven hours or less"... the solution is simple. EDUCATION.. be pioneers in fields of METS or in politics I'm sorry as much as people wanna believe a 8 million$ piece of art doesn't inspire as an 8$ worth of soup given to a homeless man....
@jamesgillies8996
@jamesgillies8996 8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Rhodes you say that, but these women have been campaigning in anonymity for 30 years; if they wanted more recognition for their art they would have used the Guerilla Girls as a marketing stunt, but they haven't. It shows, to me at least, that they do come from a standpoint of standing for all women and not some bitterness over their own lack of success.
@iller3
@iller3 8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Rhodes ..yeah but so is Scott Cawthon's ... and super Uncanny-Valley on top of that. But it didn't stop him from eventually finding a gold mine once he finally embraced that fact
@sixteenstringjack
@sixteenstringjack 7 жыл бұрын
I wish they would state directly what the issue is, and who is at fault. They say there is discrimination, and they say that a few billionaire collectors sit on boards and decide what goes into museums and galleries. Are they the ones discriminating, and if so how? Is it that they actively reject works by female artists? Or that they don't actively look for it? What are they doing, precisely? How are they discriminating - intentionally, because they dislike women? What?
@tatoomi
@tatoomi 4 жыл бұрын
If you attend their works and performances, they note down exactly what you are talking about, also marked with humour. This is a talk show where they are discussing things in general, where an audience is not as well-acquainted with the processes of the art world.
@BaxterianEmpire
@BaxterianEmpire 8 жыл бұрын
Not that it matters but does anyone know the Male to female ratio of artists? Or does anyone care you painted the picture male or female? Also nude art is the human body, and statistically it appears that women are the more attractive of the two genders? Another thing if you think it has taken 30 years, and in that time why havent they started up their own musem or attempted to find funds and donors/investors to see if there is a market for what they have to supply.
8 жыл бұрын
They are very brave girls
@AnimeBronx
@AnimeBronx 5 жыл бұрын
Pedro Menchén 😂😂😂😂 they wear mask to hide their identity. very brave!
@2x3x5x6
@2x3x5x6 8 жыл бұрын
Oh boy the comments are full of people who have no inkling of understanding of art history and even less of an understanding of what these women are saying.
@jons787
@jons787 8 жыл бұрын
Judging by the dislikes, I'd say the couple hundred millionaire and billionaire art collectors saw this video.
@vivianqin9646
@vivianqin9646 8 жыл бұрын
the art world is already bad but if the youtube comments session ran the Met...LMAO
@poiewhfopiewhf
@poiewhfopiewhf 8 жыл бұрын
I always thought one of them was Colbert, the more you know
@ImApromox
@ImApromox 8 жыл бұрын
you cant regulate art, thats the whole fucking point..
@HakimSpokenLewis
@HakimSpokenLewis 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a Black bigender feminist trolls AMA!
@davidbradley6040
@davidbradley6040 8 жыл бұрын
One is Freda (as in Freda Kahlo)I knew I recognised those eyebrows.
@notanameman
@notanameman 8 жыл бұрын
Last I checked artists aren't supposed to be about making money, and the fact that art museums do not tend to buy art made by women for extreme amounts of money should not deter women from making art. (Also, most art you discover nowadays isn't in a museum anyway since it is from films, music, etc.)
@TheGelatinousSnake
@TheGelatinousSnake 8 жыл бұрын
They are literally advocating for average art that reflects the general work of artists... Which sounds awful to me but I suppose it is fair if they are talking about public owned museums.. But if they are referring to shows by rich ass art collectors, no. Don't give a shit.
@taylergreyartbackup
@taylergreyartbackup 3 ай бұрын
OMG IM CRYING ITS THEM!
@PhotonKingShark77
@PhotonKingShark77 8 жыл бұрын
Something that relates to my art major.
@pitfighter871
@pitfighter871 8 жыл бұрын
correct me if Im wrong; but isn't art, money, sex about power. And doesn't power have to elude to superior and inferior variables.. e.g Dominance and submissiveness. And isn't the concept of gender in itself an persistent projection of these duality. In other words. Male and Female is a two player Versus video game. Blue vs pink. You want to beat genderism. You have to take out the conditioning from birth that suggests the stereotypes and submissiveness.Another way I look at it. The difference between the sexes in nature is usally not obvious. Take a dog. The behavior of a dog isn't inherently female or male. Aart from the obvious reproductive organs. The two act completely the same. Until introduced to other dogs.
@JoshTruff
@JoshTruff 8 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry there is so much art about everything. who cares what's in art shows. look online for your needs. noone goes to art shows anyway.
@sumyanlaw
@sumyanlaw 8 жыл бұрын
+JoshTruff "Museums ... are guardians of history, ... they’re also makers of meaning and metaphors." nymag.com/arts/art/features/40979/index1.html "The monographs on artists, permanent collections and major exhibitions are really the path into history." www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-womens-blog-with-jane-martinson/2013/may/24/women-art-great-artists-men
@JoshTruff
@JoshTruff 8 жыл бұрын
+Grace Law I am sorry but you are horribly incorrect. The world has changed, art shows and high valued art mean nothing anymore. Memes will be remembered before them, the world will remember youtube as our history. Why go to a museum when you can google search history. These people are fighting for a cause that is extinct. Its like saying blacksmithing is male dominated and needs to change. Sure if females are as good at blacksmithing they should be allowed to blacksmith but I just don't really give a shit because I have never met or needed to use a blacksmith.
@markofmountain
@markofmountain 8 жыл бұрын
Being in the contemporary art section is normally a really bad thing
@ADUSEI6111
@ADUSEI6111 8 жыл бұрын
This is Stupid, the Billionaires fund the Museums, YOU DON'T, u can't criticize somebody when u probably need their money show your Art in the first place. I mean u could jus go stand in the middle of the street n showcase your Art.
@TheNewRobotMaster
@TheNewRobotMaster 8 жыл бұрын
Too much discrimination? Does that imply that some degree of discrimination is okay? What if it's discrimination in your favour? I don't support any kind of discrimination, and that includes "reverse-discrimination".
@peterschlemihls
@peterschlemihls 8 жыл бұрын
Great open minding topic.
@brandonf6174
@brandonf6174 8 жыл бұрын
Having a hard time taking them seriously with those masks on
@tatoomi
@tatoomi 4 жыл бұрын
Their art and process, is generally marked in humour and sarcasm. Look it up.
@aubnuwelja
@aubnuwelja 2 жыл бұрын
YES
@loothootyou
@loothootyou 8 жыл бұрын
Well maybe if they painted better. Also a BIG portion of the nude female paintings are done by females, mostly because the female body IS art. Saying this is offensive is like saying your body is offensive (free the nipple disagrees, another feminist movement). The female body is beautiful and erotic and should make women proud to be one. So i don't see how this is actually a thing. These girls probably just got mad because no one liked their art, and it was the mans fault, because they were females. Grow up, there is much more serious shit going down in this world.
@Bazingawow
@Bazingawow 8 жыл бұрын
The edge is strong
@reversemoustachecat8127
@reversemoustachecat8127 8 жыл бұрын
Cause that's what the we need Stephen more feminists propaganda. Thanks man.
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 8 жыл бұрын
he should give up his job for a woman
@naftulzvi3353
@naftulzvi3353 8 жыл бұрын
+reverse moustache cat How is it propaganda if it's a fact?
@reversemoustachecat8127
@reversemoustachecat8127 8 жыл бұрын
It is not true. It is imaginary. They have imagined that female artists are as good as male artists, then they imagined that the arts community (most liberal in the world) is not giving women an equal chance because they are sexist on some level. Then they think that a millionaire collector is somehow responsible to spend his own money and donations on art that he doesn't want because it was made by a woman. The phrase beggars can't be choosers is lost on these women. When someone makes a donation you can't tell them what you would like to have. Why are wealthy women not donating their arts collection to a museum? Why is 'male art' considered the most beautiful in the world a problem. Not to mention that the whole thing is subjective anyway. You can't tell anyone what art they should like or buy. Who said any of the artists they mentioned are on equal footing! So that's why I said what I said.
@naftulzvi3353
@naftulzvi3353 8 жыл бұрын
reverse moustache cat Are you fucking kidding? Please prove to me somehow that ridiculous statement claiming that females aren't as good of artists as males. It's not about donations it's about the people who actually own the museums and exhibits. "Why is 'male art' considered the most beautiful in the world a problem.". For nearly all of Western art history it has been dominated by a white, male viewpoint. It's a field going back 2+ centuries that was basically impossible for women to enter and/or be taken seriously. Our art world and art senses have been molded by this one-sided portrayal of art. Yeah, it is subjective, then how is it that you can generalize that a gender can be worse than the other gender?
@reversemoustachecat8127
@reversemoustachecat8127 8 жыл бұрын
Naftul Zvi I don't have to prove to you that "male art" is considered the most beautiful. Google all the top pieces under any category and see who drew them. But again I don't know if you realize this, museums get art put there as a donation from board members. Many museums are either government owned or non-profits. They can't afford the art they house. So if people are donating male art to them what are you going to say?? "no, thanks" and you also can't force the members to buy "female art" because it's their money and they shall do with it as they please. So this really boils down to a cry baby request of please rich people buy art from women even if you don't like it and please art community rate female art higher on the basis that it was drawn by a female even though you don't consider it as good. The art community is not biased. They don't care who drew the paintings. They are liberal but they are not going to lie to themselves. If a piece is not good will then it's not good.
@jonhaynes2384
@jonhaynes2384 8 жыл бұрын
I know who one of those girls is for certain.
@petereames3041
@petereames3041 8 жыл бұрын
it appears that these guys have no understanding of art history ...
@Gintoki7
@Gintoki7 8 жыл бұрын
Sargon of akkad would wrek these feminists
@Gintoki7
@Gintoki7 8 жыл бұрын
+John Doe and ur a simp
@contactkeithstack
@contactkeithstack 7 жыл бұрын
qasim mumin that's a strange fantasy.
@pacomontes3616
@pacomontes3616 8 жыл бұрын
Me gustaría ser mujer para formar parte de ellas ¡¡¡¡FEMINISMO O BARBARIE!!!
@CitkogaSquad
@CitkogaSquad 8 жыл бұрын
Zubeida for sure is hot as hell
@obiwankenobi661
@obiwankenobi661 8 жыл бұрын
one of my biggest pet peeves is that people dont know the difference in pronouncing "gorilla" and "guerilla" - its a spanish word, its the same reason you dont pronounce pinata "peenahda". hint: its pronounced "gehreelleeah" with a spanish 'r'
@obiwankenobi661
@obiwankenobi661 4 жыл бұрын
@Fortescue what else was i supposed to take from this? some great feminist message? neo-feminism is cancer. i was raised by an original feminist, she would know.
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn 8 жыл бұрын
I dont see what the problem is? rich people can spend their money on what they like, and they will spend it on what inspires them, which may increase the prevalence of that type of art but so what? If these people increase the prevalence of what inspires them it will cause other people to be inspired similarly. Which is a good thing because these rich people have OBVIOUSLY done something right in life, if they hadnt done something right they wouldnt be in a position of power in the first place. you dont get into a position of power by doing the wrong things.
@hellomynameisCECIL
@hellomynameisCECIL 8 жыл бұрын
Unless you say ethically wrong...
@LowestofheDead
@LowestofheDead 8 жыл бұрын
+azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn Bernie Madoff worked hard to screw over thousands of people's lives, every clothing retailer depends on unsafe sweatshops working for cents, electronics manufacturers allow labourers in China to be poisoned. What makes you rich isn't always ethical. Add the fact that success isn't what you do, but who you know. A hard-working genius can only get so far born in the 3rd World with malaria, no jobs, few schools, a corrupt economy where you can't even start a business VS born rich in Europe with connected family. Humans with power will influence the world to keep themselves in power.
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn 8 жыл бұрын
LowestoftheDead good theory, cant apply to 100% of rich people tho i guess some could deliberately try to inspire the wrong things in people
@Poplinman
@Poplinman 8 жыл бұрын
+azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn If you think the VAST majority of rich people have done ANYTHING to be in a position of wealth and power you are wrong. The basis of your comment is wrong. Learn about economic mobility in this country before posting shit like this.
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn 8 жыл бұрын
Claire K Well if theyve done nothing how the fuck do they get in that position? its either them or a relative has done something smart enough to get their hands on alot of cash otherwise they WOULDNT have that cash
@tomphilbin799
@tomphilbin799 6 жыл бұрын
i love when a woman bares her shoulders
@ida5067
@ida5067 8 жыл бұрын
so many men and boys are so insecure that they see the word "feminist" and start freaking out without even watching the video. i thought stephen had a smarter demographic than the other hosts. i'm disappointed.
@siraf1234
@siraf1234 5 жыл бұрын
We dont freak out. Any feminist today is actually dumb.
@roughstartbeats
@roughstartbeats 8 жыл бұрын
I totally get where they're coming from with this but still... the easiest way to fix this is to collectively come together. No one is hindering them from opening a museum and I'm sure there are enough females (and men that want to help) that are rich enough to invest in such a thing as a museum. The mainstream world would in time (and faster than by doing shit like this) mold together with theirs.
@cryptidcoyote6236
@cryptidcoyote6236 8 жыл бұрын
I think that its really cool what the Guerrilla Girls are doing, but man, I would pick a female nude painting over a male nude painting any day.
@CALUNERBILLY
@CALUNERBILLY 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if any men's rights activists would be invited to the show.
@mynamejeff2436
@mynamejeff2436 6 ай бұрын
They don’t need to
@IdoruFalls
@IdoruFalls 8 жыл бұрын
These women dare suggest that men have a monopoly on various cultural institutions due to the historically sexist nature of western civilization!? But I am a man, and I live in my mother's basement! Where's my power!? *violently clicks dislike button*
@shitshow2376
@shitshow2376 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Wednesday dude they don't mean all men. They mean to say that certain fields represent more men than women
@TheShoeCheese
@TheShoeCheese 8 жыл бұрын
You know your life is easy when your biggest problem day to day is not enough women artists in fancy fine art museums.
@sheryllord440
@sheryllord440 8 жыл бұрын
Progress for women artist is slow to come.
@donellebullock7404
@donellebullock7404 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe the reason why they're aren't that many females nowadays is because it is the same reason for technology and elected representation. Women typically don't go in those kind of fields. They aim for the social jobs like accountant and teacher, things like that. Majority of art in history in art was made by men, at least the art we are taught in school. The problem like any other dealing with this stuff is simple, If you want more women in these fields, inspire them and encourage them to do those things. As far as the art that is sought after, it tends to be for the most well known artist and their best works. They want the best to say they got the best and to show their wealth and resources typically. The reason why a lot of male art is more valuable is because the art that is valuable is like that because the artist is dead and/or the art itself is well received.
@rachaelpeck997
@rachaelpeck997 5 жыл бұрын
I think you need to do more research. There are/were tones of female artists when famous male artists were painting. It's just men were the ones who bought male artists works. They never showed light on female works because women as a whole couldn't possibly have artistic genius.
@tatoomi
@tatoomi 4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why they protest. Our perception of what kinds of female artists are out there is so skewed by how much they are exhibited and promoted, and the curation of its diversity sucks. There are a lot of female artists whose works would be well received and who are within the fields you are talking about, but seem to be lost in the selection process in these kind of museums. A lot of female artists are dead too, its just curation and collectors that they are being critical of.
@FelizaEstrada
@FelizaEstrada 8 жыл бұрын
These girls are awesome! As a woman artist I can admire their work. I'm happy they had the opportunity to be on the show.
@Banokuy
@Banokuy 8 жыл бұрын
Well, their story is nice, but I get the impression that these people are more interested in bullying their way into these galleries by smearing everyone as sexist and bigoted rather than getting in by producing good art. Go ahead, look at their website and try to find any decent art or even original design concept. It's all drab puns on gender coated in Andy Warhol's vomit that wouldn't get off the ground if not for them blackmailing useful idiots into making them a bigger deal than they deserve to be. Equality means equality of opportunity not sorting your gallery admittance by the genitals of the artists regardless of talent. If they were as interesting as or talented as Frida Kahlo or Sher-Gil, they'd make it into galleries.
@jimmydater8342
@jimmydater8342 3 жыл бұрын
They are Stalkers.
@TransparentLabyrinth
@TransparentLabyrinth 8 жыл бұрын
Wait, so if the problem is billionaire art collectors dictating what gets put in museums, then why is it a feminist issue? That's a wealth/class issue, not gender. Get working class people more into museums and supporting museums through crowdsourcing and I bet your "gender" issue melts away pretty fast. Case in point... look at a website like KZbin. You could say that youtube videos are a kind of art and there are tons of both men and women who have a boatload of consistent viewers. Why? Because the audience decides who is popular purely through their views and subscriptions. There's a little influence from google and its homepage promotions of videos, but on the whole, this website is a great example of what the museum art world could look like if you put it in the hands of the many rather than the few. And you can do it. People like Bernie Sanders are showing the power of crowdsourcing as we speak. You just have to get people interested and you have to get them involved. Museums, in my mind, are ingrained in our culture as something that is largely made for stuffy aristocrats. Not because of what gets put in them, but the culture of museums themselves. So part of what's working against diversity is probably the perception that museums are for a tiny group of people. If you change that in a big way, the sky is the limit in terms of funding.
@hollowgraph9929
@hollowgraph9929 8 жыл бұрын
i feel like colbert doesnt really get it, but i feel like that makes it an even better thing that guerrilla girls were on the show. gosh i love them
@TrevorHock
@TrevorHock Жыл бұрын
I love the guerrilla girls but man do I hate Stephen Colbert
@SamwiseGamgy47
@SamwiseGamgy47 8 жыл бұрын
Give me a fucking break.
@tomsenft7434
@tomsenft7434 7 жыл бұрын
I recognized my mother's voice! Frida is my Mother!
@HardCoreHanSolo
@HardCoreHanSolo 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Such great questions from Colbert. Day made.
@mistermittens5931
@mistermittens5931 8 жыл бұрын
well there isn't very many artist, good artist around these days. I personally like Giger's work. I think to call this a feminist cause is a waste cause no one really cares about the painter, they only care about the actual art piece itself.
@Nicolas.Vincent
@Nicolas.Vincent 8 жыл бұрын
Wack. All these chick's are saying is they wish they could be Artist Elites. They want to be the ones who decide what art is? Pfff.
@furogh1
@furogh1 8 жыл бұрын
I like these GIRLS!
@freshmex85
@freshmex85 8 жыл бұрын
I has no idea about this issue, very interesting.
@acedotcom
@acedotcom 8 жыл бұрын
30 years of no progress. good job.
@LORDNAG1
@LORDNAG1 8 жыл бұрын
i thought colbert had more balls than this? No hard questions, Like why should someone tell an artist what they can make? Totalitarianism much?
@kitkompo
@kitkompo 8 жыл бұрын
I love this!
@Sparrow141420
@Sparrow141420 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Love it.
@fuzzytaco4078
@fuzzytaco4078 8 жыл бұрын
This show is losing me.
@anonmous7204
@anonmous7204 8 жыл бұрын
what is the best way to fight for a cause? Wear a fucking mask. D Sorry crazy ladies but it's the opposite unless you're Warlock hackers which i doubt.
@AM-fb3it
@AM-fb3it 4 жыл бұрын
Why does the audience laugh when it’s not necessary or funny? (I mean when he was reading the info from the poster, for example.)
@BigBadRedMantis
@BigBadRedMantis 8 жыл бұрын
how low can you go Stephen? art is subjective, if you don't get your paintings in the museum it means that they suck, nothing more. Looking forward to seeing homeless people on the show now, or just ordinary people from the street took with 5 before the show starts. Get animals on the show, why not>/? how about just an interview with a rock>? at least is would be more interesting then this.
@welldonefromhereon
@welldonefromhereon 8 жыл бұрын
This is the coolest
@alfriesmacdonalds5879
@alfriesmacdonalds5879 8 жыл бұрын
They said the RICH MEN were buying all the "MEN art", o-0 okay ? Just ask the RICH WOMEN to buy their "WOMEN ART" LOAD OF BULL, Art IS Art. I think they might be just whiners who don't paint as well as the top artists .
@meganmena377
@meganmena377 5 жыл бұрын
so men are better artist?
@alfriesmacdonalds5879
@alfriesmacdonalds5879 2 жыл бұрын
@@meganmena377 its just ART! no men or women here. just stop all this politics
@Bikewithlove
@Bikewithlove 8 жыл бұрын
Either these women don't know what a dilettante is, or they're betting that we don't.
@adammartin2025
@adammartin2025 6 жыл бұрын
Amazed that no one complained about these white women doing black face.
@vivianqin9646
@vivianqin9646 8 жыл бұрын
AMAZING!!!!!
@Gunner6000WarZ
@Gunner6000WarZ 8 жыл бұрын
The feminist black face is getting wayyyy out of hand......
@quinnigram6163
@quinnigram6163 8 жыл бұрын
/Users/thestudio/Desktop/Pics for marketing/TheStudioFairfieldAndTheGuerrillaGirls.jpeg The Studio Fairfield LOVES The Guerrilla Girls AND Stephen Colbert!
@PedroG20
@PedroG20 8 жыл бұрын
So many "dislikes", unreal! Beyond the mask and how funny it might seem, the message is fair, clear and necessary!
@vaibhavgupta20
@vaibhavgupta20 8 жыл бұрын
Oh dislikes
@georgerickard5509
@georgerickard5509 8 жыл бұрын
ITT: butthurt omegas
@wernerruch6218
@wernerruch6218 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing women!
@slightexag
@slightexag 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know why this has so many dislikes.
@brainstorm90
@brainstorm90 8 жыл бұрын
American "feminists" talking about art. Ayy lmao.
@cesartejeda3378
@cesartejeda3378 8 жыл бұрын
"Art should speak for itself" True words have never been spoken. I also looked these ladies up, and I was hard pressed to find any art that they have made, none whatsoever. I did however found a ton of merchandising that they sell, purses, stickers, mugs, posters, tote bags all with the same image or similar images, taking an existing image and superimposing a gorilla mask, now that could be call art, but I imagine is going to take a little more creativity than that to make it into the Met. Museum. Also, I think they are taking a page from Banksy and are just cruising on his fame and talent, to try to cover from their own lack of creativity and originality.
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