Gun Gripes

[@GreatMercenary]

I'm glad I live in the country, backyard shooting range is the best.

[@anthonyguillen9461]

GreatMercenary i know right as a gun collector with 354 firearms and still growing in glad i own 900 acres of land to just go shooting i hate gun.ranges too many people

[@GretchentheAlligator]

Lucky bastard

[@GretchentheAlligator]

That doesn’t sound accurate, don’t believe everything you read

[@beyuwallace]

google collective gun owner

[@beyuwallace]

don't believe it by any means however it would be interesting to see the real stats, agree?

[@izzytherat1]

Bring a garand to the range and watch them come out like flies. The one I loved was the 90 year old at the range with his son. He told me the last time he held one was 1951. I gave him 2 enbloc and let him shoot.

[@legaleagle123]

Well done. So fun to shoot the garand. Had a guy come up and not quite ask to shoot it, but rather hovered around while I was working with it (I had new hand loads I had worked up.) After a few minutes told me I really should get a new plastic stock for it, and it would look and fire much better. I pointed out that based on the serial number this one had been in Europe, and with the date of the rebarrel, likely in Korea. He said that is why it looked old and kind of crappy. He never got to play....

[@markgoostree6334]

My best M1 range day was when a club member showed up with two grandsons (from Cali.) that had only seen pictures of M1s. So we talked about the safety, charge handle and function. Then I helped load and enbloc and watched him (12 yrs)shoot chunks off a log sitting at the fifty yard line. Then the younger one (10 yrs). The grins were PRICELESS!! Grandpa was worried about the ammo....not me.

[@greathornedowl3644]

@@markgoostree6334 Never lost a thumb loading clip, but later learned how to hold slide open with side of palm. Can not imagine in the "heat of battle" because my life depended on it : beaches of Normandy, Battle of the Bulge, Battle of Chosin Reservoir

[@thealarmclock9307]

Old man gets a pass

[@jjpeacher]

Grand kids eat up ammo like it's free, but it's worth it.

[@maxlinger1583]

If your not a commie or liberal your damn part of my family

[@Tormentor]

Most American comment so far.

[@PlankGFX]

I love this comment. My grandpa just passed away and he got me into shooting and I'm sure I used a shit ton of his ammo haha.

[@johnboyjr21]

@max linger Same. With that said, lemme borrow some 556. pls.

[@brianpartlow5530]

Kids are an exception. My 7 yr old loves to mag dump my AK. LOL

[@Customsouthernarms]

golf course: a waste of a perfectly good shooting range.

[@TheAtkey]

No it isn't I love shooting but I also love golf.

[@rottdad775]

Golf doesn't need eighteen 400+ yard patches of mowed grass to hit a tiny ball with a crooked stick. It's an arrogant, elitist game 😊 tired of seeing half a dozen golf courses within a 30 mile radius.

[@tannerlambert2344]

Just hide by the holes and shoot the golf balls as skeet

[@b1majka]

Not opposed to shooting a golf ball to the hole. It could be a thing.

[@carrythetorch33]

Lol. I love it. And second it

[@Tgriffithshsgriffith]

I met this really cool guy with a ton of ammo and rifles with optics and sights that weren't zeroed and he kept handing me mags after mags and I was starting to feel bad for being a moocher so later on I insisted I sight in his rifles for him and now we go shooting every other week.

[@thurin84]

thats really cool man!

[@dongdynamics]

This is the beginning of a long friendship

[@potc420]

😂😂😂 I felt bad by the end if the day so I said to him "hey if you give me a couple more boxes of ammo I could use them to sight your optics in"

[@beau4687]

In Australia to shoot pistols you gotta have a sorts of licenses and go through not just red tape but about 100 yards of razor wire. I own heaps of rifles and shoot nearly every weekend, reload and cast my own rounds by the thousand and work in a gun store but I'd never shot pistols. A bloke invited me out to the club and let me shoot a mag through his 22 ruger. That was it. A bloke next to us saw that and invited me over too shoot his. A few hundred 22's and 357's later we were good buddies. Asked me if I wanted to shoot a real gun and pulled out his 460 weatherby mag. He wouldn't accept any money, didn't know me from a sack of spuds but then he mentioned he wanted to get into milsurps which I have more then you can poke a stick at, so I took him out next weekend and we shot till our shoulders were blue. Sometimes you just come across great people and can help each other out. Similar thing happened when I travelled through Texas. Went to a range were you can rent guns and I was blasting away and chatting about the guns we can't have and word got around and people were lining up to let me shoot there ar-15s and handguns and all sorts of stuff we can't have. Was a great experience

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Yeah I feel like that's not really mooching though more just the culture. This is more like the folks who are just cheap or are disrespectful about it.

[@gunsquawk4443]

Wait, you're from Australia, made it all the way to Texas where guns are plentiful, but instead of staying you went back to commie Australia? Idiot.

[@gifthorse3675]

Gunsquawk- I get your point about loving guns and knowing there are better places for guns out there like the US (for now) but Australia is their home.

[@AndrewR74]

I let a little kid the shot of his life this weekend. I had 1 round left for my Martini Henry, and he was watching the clouds of smoke with rapt attention. He was probably 10 or so. And I offered him a shot. The big grin on his face after he touched off the round, worth it.

[@mr.randomperson9900]

Ahhh god I gotta get me a martini Henry. I want one of those things so freaking bad. The ammo is pricey, but it would be worth it.

[@johndoe3johndoe382]

I had one of these experiences lol I was shooting my ruger Redhawk 44 magnum and it's very sentimental to me because it was handed down to me from a family member. A guy at the range wanted to shoot it, and I was like sure man I'll let you shoot one. First thing he did was say hell yeah! And takes the cylinder and spins it as fast as he can and literally "slams" the cylinder and locks it into place with one hand as hard as he can and shot it one handed like an idiot. I cringed so bad I thought my teeth were going to shatter. I'm not picky about my guns, but wow did that piss me off.

[@icey_penguino472]

You should've taken it right back and told him to piss off. You don't disrespect somebodys firearm just because.

[@Sparky-gp9vh]

I’d have laid his ass out

[@beauulvick4055]

What an ass

[@notsure7874]

That's really bad for a revolver. I'm not picky about my guns as far as some things go, but that's worse than inconsiderate. That's like someone asking to borrow your car to go to the store - and doing donuts, peeling out everywhere and running it close to redline the entire time.

[@TomFromYoutube]

I get the part about spinning the cylinder and all but what's wrong with shooting one handed?

[@readlearngrow]

17 minutes of videos summarized in two sentences. "We don't like range moochers. Buy your own ammo and treat other people's property with respect." :) Agreed.

[@cokedaz]

This is pretty much the ONLY way to get into shooting in the UK. You can't have a firearm license without experience and have been a member of a rifle club for at least 6 months. So aside from old beaten up club guns the only way to get experience on new things is by other people letting you have a go. Once I got mine I always let people have a go for experience as I was very appreciative of what others let me try out when I started.

[@iiipercenterpatriot4266]

Oh my god. Thats a pain in the ass

[@danielaramburo7648]

Potato With dreadlocks This system has an bright side. It forces the master/expert to teach the rookie the ropes, building a relationship.

[@otisdis]

The only time a cali restricted mag comes in handy.

[@hgrig7018]

otisdis Surprisingly I haven't had any people in Cali try to mooch my guns. a bit of the opposite, I let a few people shoot my SL8 without asking for anything back.

[@commanderosis435]

Hayk Grigoryan I've never had a range mooch in California. if anything it's been the opposite people ask me too shoot their gun. I always offer to return the favor too or vice versa.

[@zachm2448]

This kind of behavior is why I put so much money toward making a private range on a piece of property I bought. I did it up right with covered shooting lanes and all so there would be literally nothing left to be desired from the public ranges around here. Adults should just plain know better than to act the way they do at ranges here. I will say though that when I was about 12 or 13 I went to shoot my .22 at a local range. A guy there let me shoot his AR, AK, and FAL. Because of him letting me squeeze off probably 30 rounds total out of 3 rifles, that's where I became hooked. Turned 25 yesterday, and my collection that began at age 18 is now up to 37 firearms. A good part of it being milsurps/military style.

[@michaelbee2165]

I think what that man did for you is amazing. Kind of hard to be a range moochers at 12 or 13. I imagine he showed you specifically how to handle those weapons and do so safely. A big salute to that guy.

[@ephilos224]

The brass vultures annoy me more, middle of shooting and a guy starts stooping around your station picking up your brass...

[@jaredpodgorny6779]

Is that actually a thing? Why do people do that?

[@wccrispy]

Just tell 'em to take a hike until you're done shooting.

[@gillmccuddy]

ephilos224 id be pissed, i always pick up my own brass, and trade it in with the guy i get the reloads from...

[@wesjwaandrews7524]

you guys got any brass you'd give away just kidding

[@chrisf9217]

LMAO So I do pick up brass at the range but there is a sort of etiquette that goes along with it. I wait until folks are done shooting and leave before I come in. I have watched a guy trying to catch ejected brass right as its coming out of the gun, and this same dude with a broom was sweeping the brass at peoples feet while they were shooting.

[@mikebirmingham1291]

I remember one time a guy started shooting my targets. He thought the range put them up for everyone...

[@notsure7874]

That's pretty dumb. I mean ... if he owned a gun has he never shot? If he rented, did they not explain the range? He didn't see people setting out targets for themselves?

[@Dr.Ballsonya]

Happened to me too, I was stunned.

[@Iraqveteran8888]

I've obviously never played golf...lol. I've been to the driving range ONE time. You ever wonder why it costs them so much money to maintain the lawns? Yeah....😇

[@dylanheadrick3789]

Iraqveteran8888 Alright Eric, we're going to go play a full 18. I'll let you try my driving club.

[@MisterTengu]

Iraqveteran8888 not sure what that 4 wood you're talking about. I'm sure mine was removed at birth.

[@sithyarael6807]

I drive the golf cart and drink beer and nothing else.

[@wccrispy]

Well, you're supposed to hit the ball with a club, not shoot at it.

[@1982kinger]

Iraqveteran8888 you picked a better hobby than golf. Golf is always frustrating but guns are always awesome

[@mountainninja4334]

We have a lot of those people at our local range. Also have a problem with range hogs and people who have no idea about range etiquette. Range etiquette would be a great gun gripe y'all should do!

[@Self_Supremacy]

I ran into a guy with a Barrett .50 cal at the range and i had to ask him if i could shoot a mag but i gave him 35 bucks to do so. He was really cool about it, and yeah ill probably never get to shoot one again.

[@sparkplug1018]

Thats exactly how I've always approached that. "hey man can I shoot that? heres $40 for the ammo" It blows my mind to think that people would expect them to just let someone shoot a mag for free. Even things like my M1, that clip they want to shoot cost $10

[@Rowlett54]

Eric: "Im not gonna call anybody out" Chad: "me?" Eric: "well, i am gonna call some people out, but not by name" Chad: "me?" Eric: "im not gonna call you out for being a range moocher, your more like a life moocher"

[@mikedavis3489]

Actually laughed out loud!

[@daetslovactmandcarry6999]

😂😂😂😂

[@anthonyminarik1962]

Friendship

[@wayneedward7391]

Damn

[@donniebrookins6215]

Funny as heck

[@OneGenericName]

"Got any spare ammo?" Inspect all my ammo boxes and loaded magazines and say, "Nope, just mine."

[@tylerrey9046]

Couldn't agree more on making "mooching" a two way street, I'm almost always down to swap guns for a few shots even if what I've got is "cooler" to shoot. I also see it as doing my 2A duty to let a young shooter blow off a few rounds because there were countless older shooters that let me try their guns while I was growing up. The one thing that kills me is when people ask to shoot my rifle while I'm clearly in the middle of doing load development. I do most of my initial testing at public ranges, so I'm either fighting the session clock to get groups in or I'm trying to cool my barrel down for the next test. On a couple of occasions I've had my chrono, a notebook and a bunch of boxes of hand loads on my bench and gotten shitty looks from people when I say "sorry I'm in the middle of a test" or "sorry I only loaded enough of each charge weight for the test".

[@levistrauss5378]

"I wanna choot yer gun" "So do I"

[@dixonmicucci9271]

"They have nice ammo for it at this range. You can shoot half a box if you leave the other half with me."

[@wayneedward7391]

Ok

[@diverguy2583]

There's also "Range A-holes", i was looking at a guy' B.A.R. just mirin' it, he asked me if i would like to shoot it, "Hell yea i would", he said "ok, go ahead and burn off a magazine", so i did, after i'm done he says "Alright cool, that was about $20 dollars worth of ammo" and looked like he was expecting me to pay him, i ended up giving him 30 rounds of 5.56 as a trade off.

[@rottdad775]

diverguy2583 a common strategy used by Vegas strippers as well. They start dancing on you mid-conversation with a buddy, and then try to say you owe them after. "Nope, I didn't agree to pay a dime and we didn't discuss me wanting a (public, not private) dance from you in the first place. Thanks though." :)

[@MaynardOwns]

That's greasy shit

[@MaynardOwns]

Like borrowing a car for a 5 min beer run then having the dude ask if you put gas in before you came back. That's something you mention before handing someone the keys or firearm in your case.

[@blackirish781]

Just put in a dollar worth...

[@notsure7874]

That's a completely pointless dick maneuver. Just don't offer if you're gonna be a dick about it after the fact. Probably ruined the experience of shooting the BAR.

[@JakeBurgessOutdoors]

I'm not even American and I went to shoot at a range in Florida and saw a guy with an AR15 and i asked if I could shoot, he sad happily and went to give me his rifle I said I'll be back in a second and bought the ammo which he was using through his gun before shooting he looked shocked

[@Jason-os6tx]

It's like someone that says they quit smoking but then they always ask people for cigarettes. They still smoke, they just don't buy them anymore lol

[@BasedCowboyGun14]

-Ammo ain't cheap. -I'm not rich. -Please do not ask me to shoot five mags with my ammo. Thank you.

[@FatDaddy4Fun]

Him, "Hey, can I get on your Harley?" Me, "Can I get on your girlfriend?"

[@jeredfowler7194]

Hahahaha this happens alot on my bike I just say I'd prefer you don't

[@talonmak]

This Comment Is Gold! I Love It!

[@danielaramburo7648]

Him: sure, he would love it! You: hold on... he? You can ride it for free.

[@tomw8]

Lol 😂

[@eyeofth3b3hold3r]

Chad let me dump a 31 round mag out of his 9mm AR SBR with an aimpoint, geisele trigger, and suppressor last year at a QRF suppressor shoot. 1st time meeting him and Eric. He just volunteered and offered it. Stand up guys!

[@johnboyjr21]

"Not gonna name any names, but.... It's this dude." jk that's actually dope

[@chuckmiller5763]

I have my own range. Nearest building is about a mile away. In Arizona it is legal to shoot on your own property. State law makes it illegal for City , County and towns to pass a law making it illegal to shoot on your own property. Nearest occupied building has to be 1/4 mile away, thats it.

[@1madmax22]

I often find or hear a reason that I should never have left AZ!!! DAMN IT....I loved AZ when I was at Fort Hauchuca for three years. The best weather all the time. My first January there, and it got hot enough to be in or even remove my t-shirt. After that, I can't figure out why I ever moved back to my home state of md. I hate the gun laws here and I hate the weather here, it sucks. Of course, I hear theres a downside to having Sheriff Joe in AZ. IDK what the reason, but I hear HE sucks.

[@michaelanderson1859]

I guess you guys have a lot of extra land there. Just has to be property density of less than 1 house per acre in Florida. Doesn't even have to be outside city limits.

[@gifthorse3675]

I envy people who have land

[@slingo30]

you forgot about one type of person. The crap talker. prime example is I was over at a friend's house and he knows that I carry, so he begs to shoot my pistol. I let him shoot it, and he hit the target all three times, and continues on about how great it was. well we had another friend there and he wanted to shoot, so against my better judgement I let him shoot it. he shot five rounds very slowly, and missed every time. so instead of blaming himself, he starts talking about how much of a piece of junk my pistol is and that I needed to throw it away. so I holstered it and drew putting all eight remaining rounds on two targets, quick fire. he was still claiming that my Glock 22 was a piece of junk and I was just lucky.

[@ronalddavis]

this is the same guy who puts down your gun and claims his is better but never lets you see it

[@hinnyhinhin9498]

Jeremy Morgan yes! It's as if they think they're the superstar at everything. It's as if you were lifting weights and they tried to lift what you did and they blamed it on the bar! It doesn't work like that!

[@1madmax22]

Do you FEEL lucky?.....WELL DO YA, PUNK?...LOL, you should've said you get lucky like that about 90-something percent of the time then. I had a boss and his nephew that I worked for/with, small plumbing co. They took me shooting with their pistols and the boss had some type of S&W, the nephew had a Beretta. Both were semi-auto and I didn't do real well with the S&W, but the Beretta, lets just say the nephew was pissed because he couldn't shoot as well as I did, his own weapon. Now THAT, was hilarious. I didn't even ask to shoot because I had just started working with them, in the 90's when Beretta got popular all of a sudden during Lethal Weapon movie making days. Now thinking about it, it must've been the difference in barrel length, how I did better with the Beretta. I think they both thought I wasn't going to do as well as I did, joke was on them bc I had been in the Army and shot what I could whenever I could. Its a passion, I love to target shoot.

[@WickedDealer]

@@ronalddavis Those are the people that usually don't even own one.

[@TheMitchbassman]

Oh Jeremy.. My goodness Glock 22 , he is right.. I dont think its was about who was hitting the target and how you "tore it up" shooting at the end. He was just pointing out the truth!

[@3eightiesopinion524]

Thats another plus to reloading. " oh hey can i shoot that?" "Nope. They are reloads"

[@thesoggycheeseburgerincide7401]

They sell 4 wood drivers at Dicks sporting goods, they're right next to the football bats.

[@shaggyj6940]

The Soggy Cheeseburger Incident I actually own a 4wood. Love it for shots in mid iron range.. lol

[@Carl007Jr]

I remember I didn't let this guy shoot my Springfield 1903, and I only had ten rounds left at the time, and was more than half way through it all, and when I kindly and respectfully told him I was zeroing in my scope and didn't want to share ammo at the time, he called me a "fucking stingy Muslim", and after I chuckled at him, he went "you laughing at me???" and I said "yeah it's kinda funny that you're calling me stingy because I didn't let you use me for my Springfield". Then he got mad and the range master came and calmed him down lol. WHEN RANGE MOOCHING GOES WRONG. haha

[@Embattled5211]

I'd expect nothing less from those entitled moochers.

[@ajamcan7264]

My grandpa has a Springfield M1903 and i haven’t even held it but I did get a 20-30 year old shotgun from him though so yay

[@keyworks_6614]

a driving range is a waste of a perfectly good rifle range

[@grenmoyo3968]

Keyworks_ i disagree i'd love it if they were side by side, that would make my afternoon

[@davidmcarthur6022]

ahahaha yup!

[@sparkplug1018]

How about dual purpose? Driving range in the morning, shooting range at night.

[@JokahFACE]

My local driving range terminates at the side of Interstate 81 XD Needless to say, using it as a shooting range is not advisable..

[@schnozistanczar9433]

sparkplug1018 that's actually a really good idea

[@codym4452]

Range Moochers Ahhhh!!!! Also, don’t forget the brass moochers (brass vulchers). These guys literally hover over us while we shoot at the public range. Almost creepy and uncomfortable at times.

[@RT42069]

If someone did that to me, I'd be like "hey, you want some bullets too?"

[@blackirish781]

Almost?

[@notsure7874]

One range I went to has an "if it hits the ground it's ours" policy on brass. Its either to prevent brass vultures, or because the owner IS a brass vulture.

[@paulsecrest9427]

@@notsure7874 point blank has a rule from table to bench the fire arm must be cased. Which is fine because it catches the brass.

[@thealarmclock9307]

" vulture"

[@firemasterx23]

Damn sounds like my uncle - always want to go shooting with my guns but if I ask him for a ride - he's always busy ;/

[@JohnWayne-wv7eu]

Rocky Dang Sorry Uncle my gun is broken.

[@firemasterx23]

my whole family bitch about my ford ranger but always ask for it when they buy something from walmart or homedepot

[@JohnWayne-wv7eu]

Rocky Dang My trucks broken sorry. lol

[@abrb1223]

Rocky Dang Same here! Everyone wants gas money to take THEM shooting! I mean it's a long way out to go to the range I go to but I shoot all day, usually at least 500 rounds. I'm still always the guy insisting people come with me and give it a try or offering my guns and ammo to others at the range. Less and less people in the gun community in Michigan now, it's unfortunate.

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

Your Uncle may be a Narcissist. A Narcissist will NOT help you or others Unless their is a distinct benefit they will achieve for him or herself.

[@SW0000A]

I have never had any of this happen. People are really nice and respectful around here. I'm thankful.

[@srspower]

I guess this is a cultural thing but at my club in the UK EVERYONE wants you to shoot their gun. It's like they get enjoyment out of seeing that smile on your face.

[@theevillekid8118]

my god. take me to this heavenly place.

[@marbo40k35]

Seriously. I have not experience the mythical "range mooches"... i don't really have anything that get anybody's attention other than my Desert Eagle .50ae and of somebody wants to shoot, I give them a mag and tell them to have at it. Share the love y'all.

[@BigRedPower59]

I put myself in the firearms ambassador category. I love to get young people interested in shooting and marksmanship. It makes me happy.

[@jackphilamore288]

I actually don’t like it when people do that tbh, I don’t wanna shoot someone else’s gun. Unless they got something crazy like a .50bmg, but I hate that too cause the bullets are EXPENSIVE, so I feel guilty.

[@cretins]

Ya, that doesn't happen at my gun range in central Florida either, of course it's a members only club, and I always bring enough ammo for those who want to to try any of my big bore guns.

[@matthewkenney6579]

Who the Sam hell goes to the range with one box of ammunition is my gripe

[@btwrug2]

someone who buys rare and hard to find ammo for their 70 year old gun!

[@matthewkenney6579]

btwrug2 Right....

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

As btwrug2 said. I do that all the time.

[@72huntster]

Nothing wrong with one box if you only plan on shooting one box.

[@CNT12696]

When I try new ammo in my guns, I just do one box

[@jakeoutdoors9600]

I find range moochers annoying with one exception, youngsters. I kids always ask to shoot the 44 cal black powder reproduction revolvers. I always love the look on fathers faces when their kid enjoys shooting a repro 1858 revolver over their dads brand new taticool X gun.

[@markastin001]

My son aged12 has a thing for bloody flintlock pistols - AKA Pirate guns - God love him

[@ablemagawitch]

Blame Jack Sparrow..... and few other TV shows. Usually people evolve up to black powder, if you get them started with it early...hooked for life. Sadly the kids that most need to have a chance to borrow and shoot a firearm, won't be at the range....

[@jakeoutdoors9600]

Able Magawitch: That's Captain Jack Sparrow. Sadly your last sentence is all to true. The gun club I used to belong too had a Youth Day once a year. It was free kids got to shoot everything from bows, black powder, surplus rifles, trap, the PA game commission gave a talk and after all that free barbeque. There was one certified firearms instructor per range, and one adult per firearm. The first hour of Youth Day was a safety course. I can recall many parents giving the dumbest excuses for not taking their kids. 'My kid has never shot a gun before.' 'We don't like guns.' 'If my kid wants to shoot a gun they can do it when they are older.' 'Kids with guns, Sounds like a recipe for disaster.' It was so difficult to get non gun owning parents to bring their children. And you guessed it... every kid was super excited to be there.

[@theevillekid8118]

+Mark Astin i thought i was alone. i grew up loving flintlock reproductions.

[@TheBinarySon]

I'm terrified of gun ranges because I don't want to shoot anyone's guns and I don't want to be asked if they can shoot mine, but yet I also appreciate that that's somewhat of a tradition. I just have no interest in it and don't want to offend anyone.

[@slaughter_salvo3298]

Its not worth to be afraid of just dont shoot any other persons gun and if someone asks respectfully decline

[@SaneNoMore]

Usually if your not shooting something special you won’t get asked, at least I never have. I don’t have anything unusual just standard 9mm and AR 15 so no one’s ever asked to shoot mine.

[@matthellcat2494]

these gun gripes are the best

[@maxlinger1583]

not as good as the commie tears what come shortly after

[@99pppo]

I can totally get where you’re coming from. Since I am in Germany I do have just a little bit different perspective on this. Here it may take someone who is interested in getting into fire arms up to 2 years before they can buy one for themselves. So being able to try out and train on different guns of other people can be a very valuable thing. I know that I was very happy that people let me try their different guns and I could - once I acquired the necessary licenses - make an educated decision as to what to buy for myself. Most of the time people will just offer you to try out their guns and you don’t even have to ask them. I really appreciate this kind of comradeship between shooters at least in my club. Now those people who let me try their guns are keen to try mine and of course I let them. Also if people who are not into guns yet ask me if they can try shooting a real gun I let them and often don’t charge the 4 bucks for a box of .22 lr. Now it is kinda hard and expensive for me to get the 6,5x55mm SE cartridges for my Swedish Mauser but if somebody who never shot an AR before wants to pop off 5 rounds of .223 I am not gonna be greedy about the 2 bucks that will cost me if I thus made somebody support gun rights and perhaps get into guns themselves. Now when you live in a country where you can just go to Walmart and buy guns and ammo if you’re old enough and you’re a working adult of course you shouldn’t mooch around and try to get off cheap just by asking people for free stuff. But of course if somebody has a somewhat exotic gun it is cool if you he lets you shoot like 3 rounds with it. As long as there is always an element of giving and taking, a mutual togetherness on the range rather than one part trying to get free fun whilst never providing for the others.

[@vhfgamer]

Golfingveteran8888 CONFIRMED! Thinking back... I have been asked by people to let them shoot my guns occasionally if i am shooting something unique. Usually it involves black powder. There was one kid that asked me for some .22 ammo right in the hight of the demand for the stuff. He couldn't find any for any price much less cheap. He had just gotten the rifle for his birthday (18) and had no ammo to even shoot it once. Since his brother was my friend I cut the poor kid a break and helped him out.

[@bille5960]

VHFGamer Star Fox looks fucking pissed

[@polaire801]

Bill E do a barrel roll!

[@stefanodogg280]

Recently I let two children shoot my STG 44-22 and at least their dad supplied the ammo. They had a blast.. but dad just grabbed their stuff when they were over, never thanked me and left his target stand out there. I stayed late with the rangemaster and cleaned up his stand and helped sweep up. Bonus is the RM gave me two buckets of free brass

[@CGF101]

TAKING MY BRASS BEFORE I CAN EVEN PICK IT UP..NO😂😂

[@remigusker6024]

Socalcarspotter It blew my mind the first time this happened! I was feeding my Mosin brass for the first time, and no more than two clips in some dude swaggers on over and starts scooping up all my brass off the table and and ground. It startled the hell out of me, I was like, what the fuck are you doing? And he was all "well you already shot it so you're done with it." Excuse me? No. Fuck you buddy! That brass is mine whether it's loaded or not!

[@CGF101]

Remigus Ker ya my 300 blackout brings them in like coyotes!!

[@spambeanie2]

Socalcarspotter yeah shooting a 50 caliber Beowulf that would piss me off

[@TheVideoMaker15]

Remigus Ker not only is it annoying, it's a safety hazard as well. I don't want them bumping into me while I shoot a gun.

[@sparkplug1018]

Ive had people literally trying to catch the brass as its ejected from the rifle. 5.56 30-06 8MM 8x56R. Ive actually got into fights with these people trying to argue that since it hit the ground its fair game, range officer didn't see it that way of course.

[@morningsalute03]

Living in CA I love letting a new shooter burn some of my rounds. When they finish off a mag (insert 10 round capacity joke here) you can see they have the love in their eyes and really start asking questions about guns. A lot of those guys/girls end up buying a gun.

[@paulb9090]

If anyone at the range asks me if they can use my gun, I would be more than glad to let them. I've never experienced a range moocher though. If I see a young 18ish guy who is obviously new, I would be more than happy to let them shoot mine.

[@tank2449]

those are some lame guns! at my range its the odd ball gun likes a ruger number 1 in 458 win mag or a quigley rifle. The ar scene at my gun range is slim to none on a good day its all old wood rifles

[@davidmcarthur6022]

I had a friend who ask me to the range to try a few. It scared me at first. But with proper training, I'm now a member at the same club with two 9mms and a Rem 870 .(and a conceal carry permit) . So, yes there is a fine line but,.....His generosity got me hooked and now I'm glad and love it... Love you vids and great discussion.. keep'm coming.

[@tac-z3363]

That is why I bought a piece of property out in the boonies and had a berm built. I no longer have to put up with all the tacti-tard mall ninjas that think they are at show & tell or the wanna-be rambo range officer that thinks he is a drill instructor and needs to yell at all the idiots. Fuck ALL of that noise. Now i can shoot long distance, can draw from a holster, use steel case ammo, shoot magnums calibers, rapid fire, etc etc, all the shit that the Rambo RO freaks out about. Best of all, no idiots, other than myself.

[@LinkHyrule03]

Rambo range officer? Rambo is an action movie with lots of machine guns. If the RO thinks he is Rambo, he'd be cool with rapid fire. Are you sure you don't mean a fudd range officer?

[@Plasmacore_V]

Better not shoot more than 1 round every 5 seconds. I've got my stopwatch and its accurate to the hundredth of a second.

[@JokahFACE]

That's the fucking dream right there.

[@kentuckyboy541]

TAC-Z Damn son you hit the nail. Did u used to shoot at knob Creek!?!! lol

[@Fallout777]

TAC-Z Amen to that brother. 👍

[@Newtire]

I like your idea of being an ambassador. I have done that at the range many times. My boy invited a group of his friends who had never shot guns before and I met him and them at the range. Shooting clay pigeons was the name of the game. Afterwards, One of the guys ordered a Remington 870 off of Gunbroker. Now he owns several shotguns and a MEC hydraulic loader. Especially when shooting clays with a muzzleloader, it draws a crowd. I usually get in a few shots and the rest goes to other people. Good way to meet folks. Each person you "convert" brings over a potential anti-gunner. I think you guys have the right idea.

[@roquri]

Not sure what's worse, the range moocher, or the range "expert"!

[@ItsVeryComplex]

never experienced the range moocher but I have experienced the "expert" once about 10 years ago. I was pretty young so he probably thought I was an inexperienced shooter. the hilarious thing is, I was in law enforcement at the time and it took every ounce of restraint for me to not tell the guy to shut the fuck up and stop bothering me because I have probably had 10x as much firearms training as he will ever have in his life.

[@logansmith4215]

TheDoctor people always act tough at my range until they have a malfunction. then no one has a clue what the problem is and me and 3 others are always the go to when we are there. I like helping but it's irritating

[@nickhowatson4745]

that's why I never go to a range. I just head out to my secret spot way out in the desert in the middle of no where. yes it is perfectly legal to shoot there.

[@rgnglzrd]

Range Mooch: "Do you have {insert-item-here}?" Me: "Yes, yes I do. Thanks for asking!!" End of discussion..

[@boogerdog5247]

That's why a guy always brought the 450 Marlin, lol. Lever action, a shoulder breaker, they never shoot it twice.

[@jeremy74pow]

Don't forget the guys that think just because you reload that you can just load them some shit. I barely got time to load for myself.

[@MaCabaret]

I don't mind letting somebody finish off a mag or something, particularly when I run a slide-fire, but who doesn't bring their own ammo to a range?

[@afrosheenix]

Cabaret Macabre I've seen people all hyped up straight from the gun show but they always pay through the nose for range ammo.

[@jarredlkling]

A lot of people just don't bring or buy enough, show up with 100 rounds for a glock w/ a 17 shot mag, and are disappointed when they only get to shoot 5 mags. They dont understand that 100 rounds and $25 bucks can literally be blown away in less than a minute

[@Frisco-gb8cd]

THANK YOU! Man, I have been shooting USPSA, IDPA, and 3 Gun for 30 years plus having recently retired from 27 years in LE. So, I have always felt like "the gun guy" you talked about. Back before the last Obama Drought when reloading components were tough to come by, I got a GREAT deal on S&B small pistol primers for $20/1000 or $90/5000. My best friend and shooting partner and I literally bought 100,000 primers. We cast our own projectiles, so we were good there. It wasn't long before he and I were the epicenter of the mooch crowd and it always seemed to be the same two guys who always found us at Stage 3 or 4 putting the poor mouth on about "not having enough ammo to finish the match". We helped them out a couple of times, but we weren't even getting our brass back. The following match, two of them came up with the tired old poor mouth, and looked at us like WE were the assholes for turning off the faucet.

[@albmartinez314]

Its still strange not seeing you at Moss Pawn & Gun. I guess I just got so sed to seeing your videos being filmed there. I do miss that though.

[@paintballer7171986]

albmartinez314 when did he leave that place

[@kevinkeener3216]

paintballer7171986 quite awhile ago. I don't even go into moss anymore because Eric isn't there and since Berry passed away it's not the same. I miss the old school moss pawn video days.

[@grenmoyo3968]

albmartinez314 i didnt even know he left. well then lol

[@logansmith4215]

Gren Moyo a long time ago

[@Farmer_Maggot]

Do you know why?

[@keepsix8367]

That golf talk had me just howling! I really enjoy your channel, thanks for putting stuff out here.

[@GaragebuiltOriginal]

I never let anyone handle my firearms that I do not know personally..

[@jstarnes3391]

Back when I was in my early 20's, I mooched an opportunity to squeeze a shot from a guy's 300 Weatherby, and the old guy was quite obliging. I guess he figured that the recoil would limit the odds that I'd ask to make a second shot, and he was definitely right!

[@soylentgreen7074]

I have a couple of friends that bug me to go shooting all the time and they don't own any firearms. Of course it's fun for you do you know how much ammo costs?

[@soylentgreen7074]

Plus sometimes it's nice to go alone to practice.

[@jasonjanoyblahaloverboy3005]

Soylent Green Exactly lol

[@soylentgreen7074]

John Galt remember never trust the government.

[@bubbanorm]

Soylent Green do we have the same friends?! I've even been told it's really not a big deal since I roll my own ammo. I try to explain that by the time you buy equipment, components, time, and then you let others shoot your ammo...it is kinda a pain in the rear!

[@soylentgreen7074]

James Norman yup all that time you put into reloading some amateur doesn't even aim and mag dumps. Lead .45 bullets are cheap and I don't cast my own. I use the same projectile for my .45 acp 1911s and .45 lc for my colt clones and lever guns for cowboy action.

[@roguebourgault]

I gotta say the coolest thing that happened for me what right before I went into the military. My uncle was talking to the range master telling him that I was trying to get better at shooting. While I was letting the barrel cool down he asked me what I was gonna do. I told him I was hoping to be a corpsman and that I REALLY wanted to go with the marines. He looked at me and said "wait right there." He came back with his AR and two mags. He showed me how the gun worked and the best way to shoot it and aim with irons. It was my first time shooting a military rifle. I've gotta say that was the best ambassador I've ever seen.

[@LongRon6969]

Please Next gun gripes: Instagram Warriors.

[@user-nb8yt2il2r]

Freedom Child like the kid who has a pic of himself trying to stick a clipazine in a revolver?

[@sethcote3101]

anon amous I'm pretty sure he's doing it as a joke

[@evandunford2282]

Seth Cote yes

[@LongRon6969]

nnnnnooo. Like the guys that only appendix carry, have every possible mod on their Glock 19, use the beeper and play dubstep in their videos

[@DanteYewToob]

anon amous I just googled that, "pic of magazine revolver" and soo many parodys lol guys with mags and bananas, a guy with a rolled up playboy in his AR, a guy in a USA speedo... How have I never seen this meme before? It's hilarious, I can hardly tell which is the real "first" one!

[@GamersBar]

IV , Can you play Shotgun Golf some time? its a hunter s thompson invention he played with people. I think its just a 9 iron and any shotgun, one person tried to get the ball in the hole , the other person tries to shoot the ball out of the sky.

[@golf-n-guns]

I've never heard of a stranger asking to borrow ammo. I hate the guys that take my brass.

[@drewschlosser26]

it's called a DRIVER. and it's in the "woods" (#1, 3,5,7) category and the others are "irons" (traditionally 3-9, and a PW (pitching wedge) and a SW (sand wedge)

[@OutdoorLiving93]

I couldn't take my eyes off that PSL

[@thehighboy719]

I always enjoy sharing my firearms on the range as long as the individual is a veteran or polite.

[@MatthewSmith-to1hz]

target sloths always get me. you know they guys that want to go down range to look at their targets and they take FOREVER!!!!

[@JR-pr1xh]

Matthew Smith That's rich! Target sloth? Did you come up with that?

[@MatthewSmith-to1hz]

LiberalsAreSilly what would you call them?

[@JR-pr1xh]

Matthew Smith I wasn't being sarcastic. Target sloth is a great name. I laughed when I read your comment.

[@MatthewSmith-to1hz]

LiberalsAreSilly oh ok. Yes thats what i call them. And yes i did come up with that, unless someone else did before me.

[@muffemod]

Usually i help the seniors set up their targets for them. Stay there Pops I got you.

[@joehaney5186]

Definitely a difference between sharing and mooching. Takes me a few trips to the truck to load guns for the range. I usually bring about 20 guns. Met some fun people and I'm happy to share. Usually spent 100 bucks or more when I walk onto the range.

[@1982kinger]

I bummed a smoke off someone at the range recently .... but I let him shoot my 9mm

[@MatFlyinFoolHarris]

My favorite back in the day was, "do you have an extra cigarette?", to which I would always say, "sorry, there's only 20 to a pack, so no, no extras."

[@austinputnam24]

Or when your friends are like "take us shooting" "let me shoot your guns" but never even offer to pay for ammo or anything!

[@chriskelly509]

Austin Putnam 100% spot on.what I do now is tell them to bring ammo and they can shoot whatever u want.

[@AzSandman]

Chris Kelly84 but some try to bring the cheapest stuff they can find and I don't run steel in some of my guns.

[@chriskelly509]

AzSandman1973 nothing wrong with laying down the law. I usually tell my friends what kind of ammo to buy and then they respond back that it's expensive and I laugh and I said it's even more expensive for me to let them shoot my ammo

[@JimmytheGenius]

Nobody's shooting my weapons, you don't know who these random people are

[@panzerpete3977]

I hate the guys that spit their chew all over the place. It's gross and they will do it right where everyone has to stand. Being the rule at most ranges that you have to pick your brass up, I don't want to be touching some gross slobs cud when Im trying to clean up after myself.

[@massv953]

Honestly as my collection grew and I got older I enjoy teaching and seeing people shoot my guns more than shooting them myself often. I especially enjoy kids and people who don't really own guns or only have one or two, as you said kinda like an ambassador to the 2nd.

[@MrRoboskippy]

One guy wanted to try my PPQ cuz he heard the triggers where nice. Of course he didn't have his own ammo. I figured he'd load six or eight. Nope, full mag. You want to be nice, but it can try your patience.

[@mojungle3054]

yall need to turn these gun-gripes into podcasts!

[@usapatriotAK47-HollyBaglioHTV]

DO A VIDEO ON GUN SNOBS,,,,,YOU GUYS STAR IN IT !

[@erxkeel]

oh snap!

[@brianjcavanaugh]

I guarantee I haven't had as much range time as these guys, but I've never had that happen to me, or heard about it, or saw it happen. But they perfectly described ALL SMOKERS I've ever encountered.

[@DinoNucci]

You respond with: "oh hey, I like to trade guns for a mag, what did you bring for me to try"

[@nasmitty5261]

Good Gripes guys. Always love your stories and I may not pay enough respect to your website. 9 Years ago I didn't even really take allot of interest in guns as far as buying them or shooting much. I was raised by and Military dad in espionage in Germany and Retired as a Police Office and He was a preacher too, lol. As a young kid I learned real quick while dad was at work that you don't fill casings up and ultimately cost me part of a thumb. Now, I wanted to thank you guys for what you said because in the last 8 years or so I have learned exactly what your talking about. Being respectful, I have been able to shoot some awesome fire arms and I always offer but I don't pay much attention to the moochers. I was at a Range a few years back and I am shooting a .40 I believe, and guy had a 50AE Polished steel that nearly knocked my plugs out. Long story I own one now. The other day a kid offers up his Glock 42, his first gun. I was well, yeah Ill take a shoot at it to find out he wanted the 50. I give him 5 shots, and he asked how many does it hold, 7+1. I got the feeling he thought I was and jerk about it but I said hey, they aren't 25 cents a shot man. Was that being a jerk? I do allot of work on guns now polishing, trigger jobs, cleaning and reloading for 1very trusted friend who knows I respect the loss of fingers. Without guys like you out there, my life would be allot more boring I promise. Shout out to you guys and a few other great channels out there. P.S. Im sorry and I miss cutshell Berry.

[@nasmitty5261]

BTW, Gripe 124 was processed the day I saw it.

[@tweker69]

NEVER , EVER , give ur gun to a strange person . ESPECIALLY if the guy didn't bring guns with him .

[@papafrank7094]

Thank you for your comment about letting the kid shoot your .22 with a brick of ammo. This is indeed how we get junior shooters involved. Bravo!

[@thealarmclock9307]

It depends on the person . I don't got no issues telling someone no. But if I like them, and I can tell they are green as far as guns go, or maybe look scared.. that's who I don't mind letting shoot my stuff. Even my ammo.. I'll let em send it if I think I can win them over to the gun cause...

[@ryanbales8116]

The first time I went to a public range, I rented a Glock 19 and also brought along my 1911 I got from my grandpa. One of the range safety there was giving my some pointers on shooting and noticed my 1911 and asked if he could shoot it. I was going to let him shoot whatever ammo I had on me for helping me, but as soon as I said yes, he pulled a handful of rounds out of his vest pocket and went to town. He was too cool and made the range experience that much better for me.

[@jakobmontgomery471]

I lost it when they were like "we know nothing about golf". And Chad just starts laughing his ass off.

[@TheArchersTungsten]

I love what he said about giving ammo to young interested people. I started shooting a .22 when I was 10 or 11 and I've always took an interest in guns since.

[@hereunderduress]

seriously, if you want to shoot. save up buy a gun and the ammo and then do it. it's an effin gun! they are fun you won't regret the purchase

[@evey0259]

I absolutely have no issue with letting people fire my guns at the range. I can understand where your points are coming from, but I've never experienced the first. The most I've ever had to 'give up' was letting a guy who was showing his mom how to protect herself each shoot a full mag of 5.7 out of my PS90. They LOVED it. Seeing the look on their face when they shoot something cool is always amazing.

[@Seseous]

I've never had this issue, but it does sound really annoying. Hurray for private land and my own shooting range. :)

[@behindenemylines3361]

Great Video - One son's friend's is originally from India and I took him to a range last year; he said it one was one of best days of his life! I (normally) take my Steyr M95 Carbine (in 8X56r). I keep that around for range moochers - they'll fire a few rounds and then walk away.

[@Jimmy7734]

"A little bit of instruction goes a long way". I like to say this about the 1st and 2nd Amendment. You may not need to know how to read and write in order to exercise your freedom of speech, but if you do, it's appreciated!

[@alejandrogonzales7022]

I guess I've been fortunate to have not dealt with this yet. I have been at a range on more than one occasion where someone is shooting something really cool and they've let me pop off a few rounds and I've been around to pay it forward a couple of times as well. Good community to be a part of for the most part.

[@MrDavidag888]

I've never experienced this....but if I bring my Mosin....faaakkkk some people want to keep talking and talking...I like meeting new people but come on....20 mins later...bro! Im trying to shoot 😑

[@joshglover2370]

Im glad I live in an area where I dont have to go to organized ranges. Just find a nice spot out in the hills and do my own thing.

[@shadeshiest22]

i miss the old moss pawn days!!!

[@gman77gas]

and Berry...RIP

[@jacobd373]

gman77gas Yea Barry was a guy you just had to listen to.

[@shadeshiest22]

Jacob D loved barry! still cant believe hes gone...

[@superwatler]

this is hands down one of the best GG's you guy have ever made.

[@firewallsniper]

I lost it at I lost it at 13:10 OMG that shit was funnier then hell.

[@timinator855]

That is the reason i love shooting revolvers, noone gonna steal my brass ! NO ONE! MY PRECIOUS BRASS!