Paper Cartridge Kits

[@GunsOfTheWest]

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[@cuda4094]

How high is the risk of chain fires with paper cartridges ? Do you need to lube the end of the cylinder?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

@@cuda4094It’s actually not any higher than usual. I do use lube over the projectiles, but mainly for keeping the bore clean.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Wow, a kit! Terrific thinking, there, Dustin. Well put together, too.

[@jollyjakelovell4787]

Sounds like the makings for a good Myths V Reality, that being store bought paper cartridges kept many a percussion firearm working and shooting long into the so called metallic cartridge era of the mid to late 1870s and the majority of armed folk of the time seldom had an 1873 Colt.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

@Doug Murray Much appreciated.

[@archersamson254]

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[@lachlanshepherd9652]

@Archer Samson Instablaster ;)

[@archersamson254]

@Lachlan Shepherd I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now. Takes a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

[@JDPDoingStuff]

Got my first 10 made.. FYI for everyone, you can fit 10 cartridges of the 44 with round ball in an empty 22 box.

[@johnjohnon8767]

Why not get a 50 count plastic box?

[@mechredd]

@John Johnon that's what I plan to do, I just don't know if I should go with a 45acp box or a 44mag since the depth is different. I haven't made any cartridges yet and don't know how long they are.

[@JDPDoingStuff]

@@mechredd When I put mine in the 44 mag box, they are difficult to get out (RCBS Green box). I have to turn it upside down to get them out. I don't have one for 45acp so I cannot comment on that. I just keep mine in the empty 22 boxes, they fit easily in my possibles bag.

[@mechredd]

@@JDPDoingStuff thanks

[@shrugger1]

He's offering cartridge boxes made very much like they were back in the day.

[@richsenecal]

Nice kit, but maybe not for old folks. My kit arrived today and it is exactly the way Dustin describes it in this video. So, being excited to give it a try I sat down in front of my computer and watched this video over and over again and attempted to follow along using the contents of my kit. I have now destroyed about 2 dozen papers and have yet to create a single usable envelope. I do not blame either Dustin or the kit, I can see for myself that he is able to put these things together. I blame a combination of old age and arthritis. My fingers are just not able to perform the delicate operation of wrapping the paper around the former. Think maybe that I might have better luck with coffee filter paper I tried it too. I was correct that it was easier to work with, but unfortunately the filter paper that I was able to get a hold of is too thick and I cannot insert the rolled envelope into the base unit while it is wrapped around the former. This is a great kit, but maybe not for me. My next trick will be to get one of my grand kids over here and see if they can do it. If they can then I will have a free labor source of paper cartridges.

[@brianpartlow5530]

It does look easy to screw up. Hopefully you can have (artwork time) with your grandkids and have them get the envelopes put together. I hope it works out for you. I just ordered a kit, I'm all pumped up. It looks like it will save a lot of time reloading at the range.

[@bobsradio6025]

Richard, lots of issues come with age. I'm a retired accountant and have had several technical hobbies, so my main problem is bone weakness and am beginning to take medication for it. About 10 months ago I hurt my back at the water store, so I don't get my water that way anymore. I don't know how old you are, but I turned 77 a couple of days ago and other than the back bone problem and need for oxygen, I'm in good shape. Chin up, Buddy.

[@monkeyship74401]

There's a certain amount of dexterity involved. I can get the papers on the former but it takes some extra finger movements that the grand kids won't have any trouble with. Getting the paper to stay still on the former while I'm wrapping the paper around is my problem. Arthritis is a bitch, plain and simple.

[@Covert_Arrangements]

If you live in the TN area I’d be glad to help make them for you. I always appreciate helping other shooters and would love to help get you going with some rolled up ammo. 🤠

[@BHill-ic2el]

It's not age. The glue dries and the end cap comes off easily. For the .44 cal the cases are not long enough to seat a round ball. I figure I have wasted $50

[@cannoneer155mm]

I ordered mine a month or so back and got it within two weeks. I was intrigued that the forms and dies appear to be three-D printed items. I had a bit of trouble getting the envelope off the former because of the grooves left behind by the printing process. I have overcome this short coming and now I can make my paper cartridges with little effort. Thanks for the tools to make accurate looking paper cartridges for my cap & ball revolvers.

[@ratchbrg3882]

I was thinking these were 3D printed. I found some similar ones and Printed off my own. I had the same issue. However, before making anything I have taken a very fine file and took off the ridges of my mandrill and made it smooth. I need to get a rounded fine file to get the die smoothed out. I wish I would have done 100% infill on the Mandrill though. I did a hefty 40% but looking at this. I could have made a hole to allow for easy measuring. But, I have a couple powder measures that will work fine. I'm going to get some cig papers tomorrow and make a paper cartridge. My ASM 1860 Army may need the the modification to allow me to fit the cartridge.

[@jimihendrix4376]

Yeah the printer is not the greatest way to make this tool unless you have a good printer and know what your doing otherwise you get the layer lines and that kind of sucks for this purpose!

[@brakk727]

I ordered one about half way through the video. Can’t wait to get it.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks for your business! If you ordered it tonight, it will ship out tomorrow.

[@cuda4094]

I just bought one and I'm just wondering if you could use lubricated wads at the end of the cylinder?.​@@GunsOfTheWest

[@1czechit1]

I enjoy the kit immensely. I now use newspaper which I nitrate. The kit was well worth the cost and came in fast. Loading is fast, and the preparation enjoyable.

[@luxzartheglorious]

Why nitrate the newspaper? I'm curious to what the benefit is

[@1czechit1]

@@luxzartheglorious it burns off completely. (almost)

[@troychristianson5377]

You keep coming out with all kinds of neato items to help me part with my money!

[@johngentzel8567]

Got my kit in .44. It arrived within a few days of ordering it. Made up 50 so far. The powder measure is a plus. Working on comparing 5 different powders for my Remington New Army revolver. Used your method of waxing my round balls during the last stage of assembly. I’d be out shooting and testing except for it’s snowing today. I’ve made my own dowel system before but this is so much easier. Thanks for a great kit.

[@jimnjele.bean-dayone3505]

Dustin THANK YOU !! On 19 August 2020 at 11:45pm PST I inquired about these kits. At 11:48pm I received a reply with the complete price list for all of the various kits he sells. I then replied and wanted to order the kit as shown in this video for BOTH .36 and .44 Calibers. I surfed the net for a bit more waiting for a reply, but being as late as it was, I figured he'd went to bed. I got up the next day to find an invoice in my email. WOO HOO but I had to go to the store to get a gift card (I am paranoid about using my bank card so I pay with visa gift cards ) and I completed my purchase on 20 August 2020 at 2:48pm PST. The kit arrived from Colorado to California today, Monday 24 August 2020. Wicked fast shipping and EXACTLY as advertised.This is a quality product and I look forward to making lotsa cartridges with it. If you are looking to make paper cartridges for your cap and ball revolvers, I'd recommend this kit, not just because of the fast shipping but because it is the most complete kit on the current market that I have seen and it works really well!! Thank you again Dustin !! Jim Barker Cedar Ridge CA.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks very much!

[@MrCoco1970]

I’m in Australia can you send one here

[@jimnjele.bean-dayone3505]

@@MrCoco1970 I don't think Dustin ships overseas.

[@Morningstar_Actual]

Raw papers may be the best option not only for the material but because they burn incredibly clean so minimal added grime

[@CalNoble]

I received mine and I am very happy. For those that may read this in the future Dustin makes it look so simple...and it is. When I did my first cartridge or two I was a little alarmed but kept at it and it came to me in no time. I've done 36 cartridges now and can fly thru them and I am now making consistent, nicely formed cartridges. Also, there are many choices of kits out there, buy this one.

[@operator1192]

It’s a little tedious but I like to make some paper cartridges when I have a day off and the weather is bad, that way next time I am out at the farm I can just enjoy shooting and don’t have to take so much time loading and measuring. I’ve been using one of the formers from CapandBall but this kit looks very slick as well. Loved the video 👍🏻

[@reachvictoria3386]

This is awesome. Thank you for all the hard work you put into this amazing world of black powder 🍻

[@andrewfett142]

👍🏻just ordered 44 kit. Have never made paper cartridges. Thanks for all your vids.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks for your business!

[@andrewfett142]

@@GunsOfTheWest kzbin.info/www/bejne/fITSYZWkgc1_n5o I made a video w/your kit in it. I started doing it alittle different. Still love your kit. It got me started. Thanks again.

[@jts159]

I am new to black powder but I bought one of these kits and it is extremely well put together. Thanks for going to the trouble of making this and the video to show how to use it!

[@ryangr100]

My kit arrived today via my BIL. Great little kit. I will make some cartridges tomorrow. Looking forward to it. You should be able to ship your kits direct to Canada. I am certain you will not need any export permits from your Dept.of Commerce and certainly none from Canadian authorities. My kit cleared Customs without comment the same day it arrived. Take Care Bob

[@theotherone1668]

I saw this video and ordered not long after. best cartrige kit I've seen.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thank you!

[@samspencer582]

I bought the kit for 44 caliber from you and I am going to do some of these paper cartridges today. Thank you for this video and for the paper cartridge kit you sent to me. Keep up the good work and all your good informations.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks for watching and also for your business!

[@samspencer582]

@@GunsOfTheWest How many grains of powder is it in the 44 caliber? I tried to make one cartridge today, but I didn´t succeed, but i will try till I will succeed. I must practice more to roll the paper.

[@markk917]

This is an excellent kit. Just got it in the mail today and immediately tried it. Watched this video a couple of time before attempting it and was able to make a perfect cartridge the first time. Slow and steady wins the race here. I’m sure the more I make the faster I’ll get at it. Very satisfying to see the final product. Can’t wait to actually load and fire them.

[@blueduck9409]

Just received mine. I think its a great kit, well made, well thought out, and very affordable. I received mine in 2 days. I was able to start rolling cartridges right away. Thank you Dustin.

[@accidentalinvestments9776]

Mine came in a few days ago!!! I've had the pleasure of making 20+cartridges and I couldn't have asked for a more detailed explanation for making these for my first time thank you!!!

[@GunsOfTheWest]

That’s great to hear! Thanks for your business!

[@duckman2667]

I just got mine delivered, what a well thought out product. Powder measure and everything i thought of. Thank you for not only a great show but a Great tool to make my paper cartridge loading as easy as possible.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thank you!

[@jackrabbitsteve]

I got my formers this week and i couldn't be happier. If you are into blackpowder pistols you should also think about buying. There just isn't that many tools available to make paper cartridges this easy. Obviously you don't need these and can load without it but they can come in handy. So since paper cartridges are tedious to make it's going to take some time so don't give up after just a few, you will get better. I made about 60 cartridges and that took me several hours. But i broke it up by doing all the papers first then loading the powder last. The video instructions are all you need. I suggest in addition you will need an ammo case like MTM or Plano cause paper cartridges are going to be very fragle so you need to protect them from breaking up. The .44 cal will fit a 45acp/40 cal/10mm case. The Walker would need a little bigger case. I took the guns out today and shot all the cartridges i made and had no issues. All fired and there was no delay at all. I did get a little paper residue but not many and this wasn't an issue. Great job Dustin getting this done.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

That’s so great to hear! Thanks for your business!

[@Badco14]

Just a comment from one of your English subscribers. After purchasing and successfully using one of your cartridge kits for my Uberti Colt Walker, I ordered some replacement paper kits, these arrived safely yesterday, thank you. When using the gun at my gun club, fellow shooters are very impressed with the paper cartridges, and carefully watch me load the pistol and out of six shots, I'll perhaps only fire two, as my pals want a go. A little tip: I use Lee Precision REAL cast bullets and I find it is easier to load the gun with the cylinder out of the gun, then reassemble, ram the bullets down, fit the percussion caps and the gun is ready for some fun.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

This is great to hear! Thanks for your business!

[@rickyladd7496]

"let it dry" an important step I learned. practice & patience I believe is right in trying to get the paper to roll up tight, I'll surely get there...lol

[@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike]

I received my kit and I whipped out 25 completed cartridges. It's an easy kit to use and very well thought out, thanks for punching out the circles and adding the powder measurer on the former. The only thing I would change is the size of the funnel mouth. It could stand to be a little bit bigger for old guys like me. LOL. Thanks again. Well done.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thank you!

[@Alexitt50]

Ordered mine yesterday New Years Eve and can't wait to try it out in the New Year... Thanks for coming up with the kit and thanks for all the great videos, they really helped make me comfortable with C+B revolvers though I've been shooting my Hawken for 20+ years...

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thank you!

[@Alexitt50]

@@GunsOfTheWest (same message I left on Etsy) Wow... The kit got here today way faster than I expected considering the Holiday. So I sat down and tried my hand at making a few sleeves, worked out fine then went on to complete my very first 1/2 doz. paper cartridges in .36 roundball for my Navy... Didn't mess up a single one (knock on wood) The hardest part was gluing the ball with my big fat fingers... Quite a change from the Powder/patch/ball that I used before I picked up the revolver addiction... Thanks and have a great New Year for you and yours...

[@befreelivelong420]

Just got a kit that i ordered from you as well as some star capper things....and it works amazingly. Thank you very much for the passion you put into this hobby and through that passion you have made the hobby even more enjoyable.

[@OnTheRiver66]

You have done a great job on this kit!

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks!

[@SgtAwesome97]

2 years later, but I finally got my walker and one of your kits. There's definitely an art to it for sure, but I can see how it's so much more convenient than having to measure loose. Absolutely awesome, can't wait to use it when I get some conicals.

[@Schlachtschule]

Wow, you really improved this system from the first release. Very nice.

[@Honest_Grifter]

Brilliant kit... makes range time SOOO MUCH MORE ENJOYABLE!!!

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks!

[@Honest_Grifter]

@@GunsOfTheWest Thanks for the 50k discount code, I picked one up for my buddy, I'm tired of him always loading my rounds 😂👍🇺🇸

[@jfbft5007]

What I like about your kit is that it doesn’t need a pattern for paper sheets, just a cutter... and glue... I find, in France, the same paper you use and I ordered it, now I’m just waiting for your kit,but I ordered today... I’ll wait... 🤣

[@lemmdus2119]

I just received the kit and it’s really nice. It’s going to make shooting my Civil War replica cap and ball revolvers even more fun. Thanks Dustin!

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks for your business! I hope you get a lot of fun out of it!

[@lemmdus2119]

@@GunsOfTheWest I’m sure! Thanks

[@ravendon]

Ordered mine. Very nice kit. Complete.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thank you!

[@Oppteekap]

I don’t even have a gun but this kit sounds like a savior

[@jamiecook3966]

Pretty slick little cartridge maker

[@keithbozin1228]

I ordered one of these awhile back. I greatly enjoy it. It works great. Maybe I use too much glue but do check the chamber for bits of unburned paper. Makes for a lot less hassle at the range or in the woods.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Yeah, it’s pretty common to find some leftover paper in the chambers after firing. Some folks nitrate the paper, but I’ve seen that even that is not a guarantee that it won’t happen.

[@book3100]

Nice. Itd be easy to load up with wads under the bullet too, if you want to go down to a tad lighter load. Right convenient little kit, too.

[@magwakeener]

Just got my kit. Very nice. Thank you, My Friend.

[@seantierney3]

that is a great kit and I hope they sell good for you. I already have a shoe box full of the items for forming cartridges and making percussion caps.

[@RGAIRGUNNINJA]

any tips you can provide sir on making percussion caps would be greatly appreciated bud !

[@seantierney3]

@@RGAIRGUNNINJA be careful when punching out roll caps. they are loud if you miss. I don't make priming compound as I view it as to much of a risk. and mine don't work on rifles.

[@jimihendrix4376]

If you have a 3D Printer Just do a search for cartridge former, and you can print one of these for free!

[@cphoevel8071]

I've had my 36 cal kit for about 2 months it is a wonderful time and powder saving cartridge maker. I only use round ball in my revolvers and the former is very easy to use. The only thing that I've changed is the paper, I went with Bugler because it seems to be more thoroughly consumed when shot. I did buy a .75 inch paper circle punch to complete the cartridge.

[@daviddoo3]

How do you apply lube?

[@Admiral86Untidy]

Ordered the 44 caliber kit the other day. Super excited to get it an make my rounds

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks!

[@wildweasel8564]

I just finished loading my first dozen 44 paper cartridges with your kit. Once I refine my technique I have no doubt the quality of my cartridges will improve. Heading to the range tomorrow with my Remington/Uberti New Model Army to try them out.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Awesome! Have a great time!

[@aurteekay6339]

Definitely buying one of these kits from your website soon. You make a lot of handy stuff for us black powder shooters, and for that I thank you sir

[@plasticmojo8384]

Schweet,thanks Dustin just got my kit for a .44 and a walker, works great and comes with everything but the lead Bullets,very fast ship and excellent communication, was a pleasure doing business with him and his company,thanks again and two thumbs up.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thank you!

[@bodiewest9202]

How much did the kit cost?

[@plasticmojo8384]

@@bodiewest9202 I purchased the complete.44 kit and added the Walker plunger tube assy and it was just under 55 dollars if I'm not mistaken, But contact Dustin with what you want to get a price he answered really fast,the kit is awesome,

[@calvint_rallycross]

I got halfway through watching this, then IMMEDIATELY ordered one. Lol

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thank you! I received your order and I’ll get it to the post office today.

[@redneckoutlaw2134]

Great kit just got mine yesterday in a very timely fashion about a week or less, thank you very much

[@GunsOfTheWest]

That’s great to hear! Thank you!

[@Phomex-or8zc]

Just got my first cap and ball today. Already placed an order for the kit.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks for your business!

[@jestaname4589]

i just ordered one for the walker cant wait to get it. it looks way easier then the old way

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks for your business!

[@jestaname4589]

@@GunsOfTheWest thank you for making a kit for the people just getting into cap and ball makes the hobby a little easier to get into

[@GunsOfTheWest]

@@jestaname4589 My pleasure!

[@jestaname4589]

@@GunsOfTheWest i just got it in the mail and i must say on the 3rd try i got it pretty good it made it really easy for me 10/10

[@jeffreyarnold2929]

I bought the formers from you. However, I did by my own papers and punch for the circles and an Elmer's glue stick. I found a nice little box at a craft store. So I threw in an exacto knife and small scissors too. I now have a nice cartridge kit. Your formers are excellent. I have the 44 and Walker.

[@TheRealCobraBurnout]

Nice kit setup!

[@rfd6039]

Just used my kit for the first time, works great

[@GunsOfTheWest]

That’s great to hear! Thanks!

[@Antonio-y5g1m]

Me encanta las armas del viejo Oeste soy un forofo empedernido y llevo mucho tiempo buscando este KIT que he visto tanto en internet y por fin lo he encontrado para poder disparar mi revolver de avancarga, estoy deseando recibir este kit para iniciar mi fabricación y poder disparar, gracia a GUN OF THE WEST lo he conseguido.

[@shawn9252]

Just got my kit today, Thanks Dustin..

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Awesome! Thanks for your business!

[@Seahawksl1969]

I have my kit now that I received a couple days ago from Dustin. I ordered it off of Etsy and I received it very quickly.

[@MirageProductions]

Received mine a couple of weeks ago. Haven't tried it yet. Purchased 1000 hair curling papers for $5, waiting for those to come in. Might try nitrating the papers first. Love the kit.

[@jameshuffman8893]

Im new to black powder. This is the first time ever seening this done. If I got this kit that is in the video. When you say nitrating the paper what do you mean by this, making it like flash paper? If so why not just buy flash paper?

[@MirageProductions]

@@jameshuffman8893 I take the curling papers and soak them in a container of water with a small amount Spectracide Hg-66420 Stump Remover, which is 100 percent potassium nitrate. Just have to be careful in not using too much Spectracide as it will make your papers too stiff. I have thought about trying flash paper, but flash paper is extremally sensitive. Not sure if I want to store cartridges with black powder wrapped in flash paper. Here is a video showing how it's done. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4KkqaNumbqcgLM&ab_channel=ErasGoneBulletMolds

[@livefreeordie9041]

Got mine in .44 for a Pietta Navy Colt and loving it! Remember it's a patience thing so do not rush it. Be like a dog and live in the moment. lol You do not see this man rushing it either, and you may be needing these cartridges for more than fun pretty soon, which is why supplies are so short all over the place right now. Also, some rolling experience is handy here. hehehe

[@seanfoltz7645]

Finally got around to using the kit tonight and made 22 cartridges for my 1891 Navy in .44 in around 90 minutes - not sure if that was fast or slow but the whole point is saving time at the range. The kit works perfectly and is stupid easy to use with every cartridge coming out picture perfect - I am 110% sold.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

That’s awesome! Thanks, Sean!

[@seanfoltz7645]

@@GunsOfTheWest Thank you actually as I didn't know about paper cartridges until I pulled up your video on cleaning an 1851 Navy and stumbled across this. BTW - for the bullet lube being 50/50 lamb/bee - is that by weight or volume?

[@MrSkydiver604]

@@seanfoltz7645 I use 1 pound of lamb tallow to 1 pound beeswax, melt both of them in a bowl in the microwave and mix them well

[@seanfoltz7645]

@@MrSkydiver604 did the same except on the stove top using the wife's double boiler - pretty sure I've now got enough to pass on to the kids when I die...

[@MrSkydiver604]

@@seanfoltz7645 LOL wife's double boiler ??? and you're still alive to tell the tale

[@david51532]

Recieved the .44 caliber today,Great instruction video Dustin. useing ball ammo. Merry Christmas

[@curtharm3990]

Saw the pic you uploaded recently and followed the link and ordered the 44/36 and now I see this video. Didn't know it had the built in powder measures, thats convenient. Can't wait til I get it.

[@joseywales6146]

Watched the video, bought the kit, made the envelopes. This was a really zen activity, and quite enjoyable. I trashed a few papers until I figured out the right amount of stickum but it wasn't rocket surgery. The .44 kit -according to GOTW is sized for 30 grains. I had a little trouble retaining round balls so I used less powder so the envelope captured the ball (does that make sense? I wanted the envelope to cover the largest diameter of the ball). The other issue I had was getting enough stickum on the round ball. Initially I tried to apply the adhesive in a line around the circumference but when I tried to glue the ball to the loaded envelope the glue was never in the right place. I ended up just gluing the sh*t out of the ball figuring it would dry out and that worked just fine. Thanks! My Pietta 1860 Army will finally do some honest work!

[@rickflippin1]

Getting one of these kits

[@rickflippin1]

Got it, sweet kit, thanks for offering these, made it so easy had to purchase another .44 cal 1851 U.S. Marshall lol darn you

[@romeovalverde9434]

Received my kit. Excellent item! Thanks Dustin

[@GunsOfTheWest]

You’re welcome! Thanks for purchasing!

[@Marcus-xl9kr]

Really cool kits!

[@HumbleHobbit3]

Just got this kit in yesterday and am very happy! I can't wait to bring my 51 Navy out! I would love to see some content with the DIY percussion cap makers out there to hear your thoughts one day! (Especially with the cap shortages)

[@michaelelliott172]

I’d love it if you offered a kit in .31! Very cool product!

[@bobseymore3214]

My kit came today. I'm planning on loading up a batch of 36 and 44 this weekend

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Awesome!

[@raghnallmacaodh3220]

I borrowed one from a friend of mine, its works quite well... ordered one for myself.

[@raghnallmacaodh3220]

So, got it... works great with conicals... found holding a round ball with pair of tweezers makes gluing those little buggers much easier...

[@brianpartlow5530]

I just ordered a 36 caliber kit! It looks cool! I can spend more time shooting at the range. No measuring powder.

[@theprussian4616]

I Don't have any powder or conical bullets/round balls, But I am still making the cartridges, this makes it easy and fun to do, I thought owning a black powder revolver would be a hassle but with this kit I saved a lot of money instead of buying things I did not need.

[@kevintos9639]

they are great kit's. love mine

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks for your business!

[@johnshandloading7907]

Dustin, thank you for making these kits. Very cool.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

You bet!

[@BigRooster616]

Thanks Dustin . Best paper cartridge loader setup ever . Just ordered mine . Rooster Ron Wayne

[@RetiredDuke]

I got one of these kits and love it! To help with making the circles I got a .75 inch punch from Amazon and it works really well.

[@brucemagee3199]

Amazing, thanks for making that easy.

[@rogertrozelle8159]

I received my .36 kit in about 4 days, Just got my .375 round balls today, I am working on a box of 50 shells I made ,I have to say, for me, it is easier than I expected, and the finished cartridges look great. Now I can start enjoying my Uberti, Colt police. I would like to find a belt, paper cartridge box. Thanks.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

That’s awesome! Thanks for your business!

[@chrisshelley4623]

Just bought mine, thanks Dustin!

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thank you!

[@zaffdos]

Just ordered the 44 kit. Looks amazing

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thank you! I’ve got your order packed and it will go to the post office today.

[@zaffdos]

@@GunsOfTheWest WOW what service haha. I’m sure I’ll suck my buddies into the black powder world when they see the production process so I’ll send them your way!

[@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike]

I just ordered one. I can't wait.

[@ltjon1924]

You make that look easy! Just made my first two with your kit, and I'm not sure if I'm cut out for it! I have never tried, but I get the feeling that I couldn't roll a joint to save my life! Lol!

[@MichaelStroup]

This is so awesome!! I have wanted a black powder revolver forever. Came to the conclusion that I only wanted to shoot conicals with paper cartridges. Why? Because I am weird. I thought I was going to have to do it by hand for each. This is awesome! Even more so because you make one for .31 caliber as well! Why? Because I am weird and am dead set on a Colt pocket model as a first revolver and can't decide between 36 or 31 caliber.

[@westdesertoutlaw724]

I have two formers. Fast shipping my third on its way for my walker. Great product.

[@L3THALXFOX]

I've made 1000s of these. And ram em in! People at the range think im crazy

[@ralphperez4862]

Excellent step by step. Thanks Dustin.

[@JohnDoe-pf5ys]

Just got my kit rolled a few and it’s working. But I might need to use more glue they seem to come loose. Some comments on the rolling of it. This one of those time when my experience with hand rolled cigarettes comes in handy. Used bugle 40 some years ago!

[@keithbozin1228]

received one a week or two ago. Works good. I like it.

[@sleeperno1215]

Today I finally sat down and rolled some .36 round ball. This kit is great. I highly recommend it and be sure to also get a tin of lube.

[@williampollock1274]

That looks like a neat little kit. I just ordered one right now I'll try it and see how it works. Looks like it would be convenient to just load up a bunch of cartridges the night before you go out shooting. Less mess at the range. No powder measurer or flask on the table.

[@lessage760]

Thank you sir this is great going to have to get one

[@rickbrasche8781]

this works great. Ive done 40 envelopes and have filled and set round balls in 18 of them so far. just ordered a punch so I can cut more rounds as between the ones ive done and the ones I screwed up, ive already used half the kit. I make the paper parts while watching tv, but filling them requires attention cuz black powder gets everywhere.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Awesome! Thanks for the update on how it’s going. I’m glad it’s working so well!

[@eljuano28]

So there are a lot of comments/questions regarding round ball, lube, wads and heavier loads etc. I've been experimenting and I thought my experience so far might help someone. For the record, I shoot a standard length .36cal M1851 pattern Pietta and I only shoot round ball. Felt wads don't work with these paper cartridges. They're slightly overbore sized and cylindrical in shape, so they don't physically fit in the tubes. They're also not necessary for general plinking. I use unlubricated wads with a very small amount of lube between the wad and ball when I load in the field for hunting big jackrabbits because they happen to take up the right amount of chamber space over my hunting charge, (25 grains 777 fffg,) to leave the ball absolutely flush with the mouth of the chamber which slightly improves accuracy, or more correctly; consistent accuracy. They're useful on a multi day hunt to soften the powder fouling, but no more than two days or they will contaminate and degrade the charge. If possible, fire out your load at the end of each day and swab and reload for the next day, but it should last a couple of days without a problem if that's not possible. Do not use prelubed wads! For these paper cartridges, don't use any wad. It just doesn't work. If you shoot competition, using fine cornmeal as a filler accomplishes the same thing over a smaller charge appropriate to your guns best accuracy. You could cut the tubes long to accommodate this and I might just try that soon, but I don't shoot competition. You honestly don't normally need a lot of or even any lube with round ball at all, but unless you're hunting, if you do want lube, it's probably easiest and best just to top your chambers with a little tallow/bee's wax or if you're in a colder climate, bore butter works just as well. In the heat of the AZ summer, bore butter's useless and messy. Conicals are more in need of lube because more of the projectile is in contact with the barrel and your fouling is lead fouling more than powder fouling, but the nice thing is, it's a lot easier to deal with and I'm sure the lube Dustin includes with the kit should be outstanding. The 17 grain charge measure included with Dustin's kit is pretty close to dead on. If you're careful when you level off your powder, I have measured charges consistently between 15 and 18 grains checked by a small glass graduated cylinder. That's actually somewhat closer than my brass spout and about the same as my brass powder measure. On the assumption that he's consistent in manufacturing, you can trust the built in charge measure of the kit. On that, there are a lot of people who seem to want a heavier or lighter charge. I would make the following suggestion: goex is the least energetic black powder on the market in the U.S. and ffg is significantly less powerful in the same pistol as fffg. If you want a lighter charge for whatever reason, choose goex ffg and use the 17grain measure. Goex fffg is still relatively inexpensive and available and will work fine for plinking or making blank charges for reenactments, but it's kind of a weak powder for anything else. I also find it a little inconsistent in power. A much higher quality and energy powder I've tried has been Swiss fffg and it is very consistent and works well in paper cartridges. If you can find it, ffffg Swiss is probably the closest you can get to the historically correct Hazard fine powder which Colt used in their original cartridges in the late 1800s. It makes for a significantly more energetic and consistent burn, but under roundball, unless I started competing, I don't know that I could justify the expense or hassle of trying to track it down when there are a few other alternatives and if I did compete, I would weigh my charges, not use paper cartridges and invest in a Pedersoli. It did smell better though. Next, the substitutes/ Pyrodex fffg is going to work well where real black powder is difficult to get and it's more energetic then any of the goex powders I've tried, but I didn't like the harder fouling and I found rust on a screw for the loading lever a week after I used it even though I had cleaned the gun thoroughly after I shot it. That has never happened before or since but I gave the almost full pound to someone with a mini cannon. I won't use it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work. Not enough data to be conclusive. Lastly, my go-to powder is 777 fffg. At 17 grains it is at least as powerful and energetic as ffffg Swiss, easier to find and cleans up without drama. It works extremely well in paper cartridges and about the only disadvantage I found was it doesn't have that classic black powder smell. It smells mostly like a modern rifle powder, just a lot more of it. For those who want a heavy or light charge, you might just find you don't need more than the 17 grain charge these paper cartridge kits normally produce, you might just need to select your powder accordingly. I hope this helps anyone who had asked. I don't work for Dustin, I'm a happy customer like you. My cartridge load for plinking - 17 grains 777 fffg under .375 round ball in a paper cartridge made per Dustin's instructions, no lube, with a Remington #10 cap. My big hare hunting load - 25 grains 777 fffg loose under an unlubricated ⅜" thick felt wad, a 📍 pushpin head size drop of tallow/bee's wax/bore butter mixed to match temperature for a peanut butter consistency, .375 pure lead roundball with a Remington #10 cap.

[@gregzeigler3850]

Just ordered. Sweet looking kit and faster reload times.

[@txdocprich_8404]

Just started making my 36 colt cartridge works. Having a little trouble it seems a tad too lose. The 44’s worked great. I’m kinda hand fitting the 36.

[@highc2428]

Just ordered mine!

[@Dadolphinsmakemecry]

Just got my kit today,it's raining so I'll sit and make up a few for this weekend,will update as to how they worked for me. Got the kit PDQ and looks great. Thanks 👍👍👍. Make one for .50 caliber UPDATE!!!! Man i love this thing it takes a few screw-ups,but i got paper to burn so its fine.I utilize the natural glue on the paper so that eliminates excess glue. it all seems so familiar to my fingers who would've figured huh?

[@markanderson4237]

i got your 44 w set to use for my standard 44cal for i can load 30gr. of black powder and a wad and a round ball works great thanks

[@raysheppard8040]

Awesome kits

[@pieman12345678987654]

I'm about to send you an email inquiring about a 44cal kit. I am looking forward to seeing your response. You've done a great job with all this. You're videos taught me alot about these things.