Heritage Badlander 12-Gauge Side-By-Side Shotgun

[@GunsOfTheWest]

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[@coryferguson8234]

Do a video of the new Heritage Coach whip shotgun it has exposed cocking hammers

[@dannyhayes664]

For $893.00 it's an easy no go for most everyone.

[@joshuabessire9169]

Yeah, If I get a Heritage, I want a cheap fun plinker. A SxS in the $200 range would have been a "blast."

[@Scrap_Goblin]

​​@@joshuabessire9169well your options for a $200 sxs are about 100yrs old questionably shootable and probably loose

[@hirosstorageunit]

Correct. Too expensive

[@homie3star]

Yep! One can buy a used Stoeger with proper steel and better wood for less than half used. These Turks also have pretty much zero resale, for those interested.

[@gabbyhayes4561]

Yes, that is a bit high.🇺🇸😎

[@TheDhylton1]

Mossberg makes the Maverick 88 in the US for $250. Heritage needs to make an affordable side by side in the US.

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

Did not know that . May have to get one

[@RequisiteFunction]

Nobody can make an inexpensive double in the US, unless you want a plastic one from Hi Point. The last "cheap" American made SxS was the Ruger Gold Label, and that thing was over $2k, 20 years ago. The only inexpensive American doubles are the used ones at pawn shops and gun stores across the country, from Stevens/Savage or Ithaca made between the 30s and the 80s. Doubles cost more money to make. They're time consuming. They used to be less expensive back in the day when all guns were made with hand fitted and soldered machined components. But today, most guns are using cast parts, polymers and stampings , being assembled on automated equipment. There are too many "man hours" involved in making doubles, that's why the less expensive ones are imported from places with lower labor costs.

[@RequisiteFunction]

Mossberg imports their double barrel shotguns from Turkey. Their cheapest one is about $600. If Mossberg cannot make a cheap double in the States, with all it's years of manufacturing and experience, we cannot expect Heritage to do so. Mossberg literally got it's start by making cheap shotguns. There were companies making bolt-action shotguns from military surplus bolt rifles. mossberg realized he could make a bolt-action shotgun cheaper from the ground up, with all new, lighter parts, and it would be better than the mil conversions. The company's entire business model was to make good shotguns cheaper, and 105 years later, they're still not making their own double barrels. It's just a hard gun to make inexpensively.

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

@@RequisiteFunction I’m finding that out. But I have had numerous other mossbergs and they have been fine guns. Thanks for that info 👍👍

[@iamtholiver]

Find an old Savage/Stevens 311H 3 inch magnum instead, or any other 311 if you don't mind using 2 3/4 shells only. Or find a used Rossi SxS, i scored a mint Rossi Overland SxS (exposed hammers) a couple years ago for $300.

[@Divenity]

Feel like that price is a bit steep for a basic double barrel shotgun, especially from Heritage... People expect affordable guns from them, I have a hard time justifying spending more than a Mossberg 590 for a basic double barrel from Heritage.

[@RequisiteFunction]

I kind of agree, because Heritage is known for price-point design characteristics. Granted, they are not actually making this shotgun, but if their name is on it, it means they likely approved of the perameters of the build contract, and may have even speced it out. I'm not excusing the price, but it is difficult to fairly compare the price of a double to the price of a pump. Doubles always cost more to make. Unlike every other long arm, doubles are still made the same way they've been made since the hamerless box-lock was invented. There's a lot of machining and a lot of hand-fitment of parts. Theres no cheap way to go about it. People flocked to pumps and bolt-action shotguns after ww2, and since they were cheaper to make , companies didn't bother putting more effort into making doubles cheaper. The Savage 311 would be the last "affordable" American double, and they only achieved that by streamlining the fit and finish so much that, compared to pre-war shotguns, it looks like a prop. Even Mossberg is importing their doubles from Turkey. Their base model Silver Reserve is about $600. If they had a side by side, it would probably be around the same price.

[@thorfinthorfin3010]

$300 and I will definitely buy. Anything more ? Absolutely not.

[@fanbatcher]

If that much of a cheapskate, then you’ll never have a coach gun

[@V9bct7]

absolute legend for shooting both barrels at the same time - thx boss

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I do what I can. LOL!

[@ryanzanow8221]

You are correct, according to Heritage, the wood is walnut. I have a few CZ and Stoeger coach guns, and all of them are cylinder bore. Great video again, man! Thank you!

[@RequisiteFunction]

Did you buy your Stoegers like that? The only double I saw they offered was the "defense" one, with two cyl bores. All the Coach guns I had were a combo of improved and modified. There's a little punch-stamping on the bottom of the barrels. The tighter-choked barrel has more punches than the other.

[@ryanzanow8221]

@@RequisiteFunction yeah, I did buy it like that. I should have specified, the Stoeger coach I have, is the .410 bore. My other 20's and 12's are CZ. So I'm not sure what the other gauge Stoeger coach guns have, but the one I have, that I bought a number of years ago with 20" barrels, has two cylinder bores.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I've never been much of a shotgun guy, except for the coach guns. Those are my favorites! Very cool Dustin!

[@carltongadgettmannprice352]

I'm a big fan of the Coach gun double barrell shotgun and the Stoeger Over/under version of the coach gun.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I’m the same. I haven’t really done any shotgun shooting in a long time, but I sure like this little coach gun.

[@doranmaxwell1755]

@@GunsOfTheWest Yeah me neither but I do have 4 classic shotguns in pump auto and side by side the last in muzzle loading. every single one of em tho looks ten times better than that ugly Heritage. Just sayin.

[@oldschoolboxing6048]

Turkish shotguns aren’t half bad in my personal opinion. I have a few break actions from turkey and they have never failed me or shown poor quality in any way. Thanks for the video, this is one of the best channels on the platform. 👍🍻

[@Ethan_Bullis]

Hey Dustin my grandpa just recently got a Colt walker reproduction made by uberti and i got to say even tho it's a big gun, it's surprisingly wieldy and I'm really pleased with it

[@chrisbeard9113]

I love the old side by side shotguns, but most out there are very old and I’ve been unsure if they would handle modern 12 gauge defense ammo. This is something I would want someday. This is a beautiful shotgun for sittin on the porch and yelling at trespassers and solicitors

[@RequisiteFunction]

Any double made after 1900 in the States will be able to handle modern ammo. The only problem you run into is trying to run 3" shells, which weren't invented at the time they were built, or in some cases, shooting slugs through a full choke. A 1950-80s Savage 311 (which is probably the most common, used, American shotgun for sale) can handle any 2 3/4" shell that you offer it. Same with any of the other "nitro-proofed" shotguns made with actual steel barrels. Just make sure of your sizing.

[@nategross7568]

Just take caliper to the muzzles, to figure out the chokes. Dang Heritage's a bit nutty on that thing. Get a Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme with interchangeable chokes and a real finish for hundred beans less

[@chubbethsthunder]

Dustin, It looks good but I wish it had double hammers and it would look great. Thank you very much. You and your family have a beautiful and blessed weekend.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

What a great shotgun!! Heritage is putting out some fun stuff.

[@rayl.clemonsjr.4210]

The return of the High Fructose Gang,I love it !!! A scout no doubt...keep 'em coming.

[@jamesfairmind2247]

Choke can be felt by pushing a tight fitting cleaning rag through on a cleaning rod. You can even determine if one barrel is tighter than the other.

[@TheMedicineturtle]

Turkey is the shotgun capital of the world now it seems

[@seanfoltz7645]

It's also the "made in China" quality capital.

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

The quality sucks. Bought one made there, broke after just 3 shells shot

[@seanfoltz7645]

@@arthurbrumagem3844 Yeah, got one of their semi-autos and the slide locks up if you do anything but a full pull back and release.

[@elimanning6520]

@@seanfoltz7645 eh I think it depends. I've seen people say they bought a turkey made shotgun and they have had it for 15 years and its one of the most dependable shotguns they own. I've also heard horror stories lol so i think it just deepens on what make and model you buy.

[@RequisiteFunction]

​@elimanning6520 I think you are correct. Just like China, the quality is dependent on two things: the subcontractor chosen to do the work, and the parameters of the contract. China is more than capable of making quality equipment. But the people contract them to make low quality equipment, because they want to sell at a price point. Case example: I went to the dollar store, and saw a hammer for sale. Granted, it was no Estwing or Vaughn, but it was...a hammer. Now, in the States, you couldn't even fire up the forge for $1 to get started. You'd go through more than $1 worth of steel, wood, sandpaper and packaging before the item ever left the shop. Not to mention labor. China was never really a "gun hub" , in regards to manufacturing anyway. Turkey is the new Belgium when it comes to firearms. It's a cottage industry of dozens of factories making gun parts and a few companies assembling guns from those parts. Belgium was doing exactly this back in the late 1890s and into the 1920s. Belgium made some good guns. They also made a ton of garbage shotguns which rivaled the plagiarism of Kyber Pass firearms. Turkey has some good stuff, and they have some bad...because someone realized they can still profit off garbage. Most people have nothing but praise for the CZ Turkish doubles. As for this thing, IMO it's not worth the price over the CAS-proven Stoeger, doesn't look as finished as the Stoeger (which already isn't a great finish. Someone needs to teach those guys how to block sand). So it is at a price that is in between a CZ and a Stoeger, but appears cheaper than the less expensive of the two. If they want to see this thing move, lower the price or increase the quality of the finish. To be priced between a Stoeger and a CZ, it should look the part.

[@archer721]

I have a Turkish made CZ Ringneck in 12Ga and it’s a fantastic shotgun with a superb build quality!… don’t know about who made these, but I for one am definitely not afraid to buy another Turkish made shotgun!

[@telosmonos_gustavo]

Dustin, I took the plunge!!!!!! I found this beauty from Prepper Gun Store for about $640.00 this week. I did have to scrounge around online and as far as I could determine, this was the best price I found anywhere. Lots of places were SOLD OUT at or near MSRP. I'm gonna have to sell off some gear to offset it, but I believe it'll be worth it! It'll be my first side by side, and even at that price it might seem expensive. But I've read a lot of comments here and elsewhere, and I think that those prices that get mentioned are pre-pandemic era pricing and availability. However we got here, inflation is REAL and I'm sure both the manufacturer and their industry cohorts want to make some bit of profit. I have other scatterguns and I don't need this one, but from what I've gathered, if I don't find a way to snap this up now, I'll regret it later. Once I get it to the range a few times, I'll pass along my observations. Thanks again for your content, especially this one!!!

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Awesome! I think you’ll enjoy it. I’m very happy with this one and I plan to get out soon for another video, this time with slugs. Congrats on your new coach gun!

[@Vernbubba]

I’ll be waiting for your review

[@donaldgeezer]

Excellent video as usual. I would have liked to see the buckshot pattern and if it was slightly left and right like the 7.5

[@JG-six-gun]

Appreciate the video. Love your enthusiasm. Im jealous of you getting to shoot all those different guns. Keep it coming!!!!!!!

[@tcup3946]

That shotgun is good-looking. I love the old world look. Price is too high though. Stoeger is hard to beat

[@kevinroberts1888]

Would love to have a side by side in my collection. Hoping they also release one with a longer barrel. I think that shotguns from Turkey have really improved over the last decade. I have a 12ga TR Imports Silver Eagle Sporter SE which I believe is manufactured in Turkey and not only have I found it extremely reliable but also is beautifully made gun.

[@squiblift2019]

Looking forward to seeing black powder shells through that coach gun. Hopefully you do get a Heritage lever action to review in the future.

[@tjh44961]

Personally, I'd like to see some company come out with a 10 gauge double for 2 7/8" shells. Most of the doubles used by those riding shotgun on the Wells Fargo stages were furnished with 10 gauges by the company. Come on, guys, I've got a bag of brand-new 10 gauge paper shells sitting right here on my desk! MEC still makes the 600 in 10 gauge...

[@jacobmarley4907]

$647.99 at Buds Gun Shop. Not bad looking and nice for Cowboy Action shooting. I prefer however to make my own coach gun from older European side by sides which I can do a lot cheaper. Great video though, I thoroughly enjoyed it as always.

[@RequisiteFunction]

Where are you getting them? I haven't seen any decent enough European doubles that were also cheap enough to not feel bad about "ruining". Hell, I didn't even want to cut down a $300 Ithaca Hammerless cuz I thought it would eventually be worth something. With the Stoegers, you can thrash it and not feel bad about ruining something that is appreciating daily. That being said, if I had a pile of Ithaca Hamerless or Stevens 311s sitting around.... Another question, aren't many of the English shotguns bored only for 2.5" shells? I know you said European but I wasn't sure if you were including them. I've seen used English doubles for under $400, but i wasn't keen on making my own shells for them.

[@BePatient888]

Stoeger Coachguns can be bought for $270 right now, but usually around $400-500. I went with one of those.

[@jasonashley4579]

I've got some turkish pistols from Tisas and Girsan that are excellent quality.

[@Wizwiz2112]

Yes. Agree. They do put out some nice guns. I have the Sar p8l. It’s like a clone of the completion version of a cz75. Beautifully made and dead accurate.

[@lexmak87]

Do you prefer this over the stoeger models? I'm debating between the two

[@ryanzanow8221]

Hey Dustin, I was wondering, does this side by side, like other newer hammered and hammerless units, reset the safety every time you break open the action?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I’m happy to say it does not.

[@ryanzanow8221]

@@GunsOfTheWest very cool!

[@alexandercurry8274]

Great video! keep up the great work! I wonder what it would look like if you happened to fire two slugs out of the Heritage Badlander.

[@waynehendrix4806]

Dustin, this is interesting. I saw the same online. Since they didn't mention, I have to assume it is a cylinder bore. Not judging, but for contrast I saw a dual hammer coach Rock Island (not sure of which factory they are buying from) in 12 ga, with threaded choke tube system for $485. Almost picked it up, but really have been looking for a 20 ga, which sends me more toward Stoeger. RI does not offer a 20 ga double, it appears. Final note: I realized later here that the Badlander is very short, as with a true coach gun. That does make it more specifically tailored for the wide open bores.

[@Radman607]

Turkish shotguns are not bad, I have this and recently acquired a Winchester SXP Trench gun 12 guage, the thing cycles faster than any shotgun I have ever had.

[@ericshindler5829]

What is this wonderful shotgun that you own from turkey I have had nothing but grief from stoeger. I am eyeing A Pieta coach. Your thoughts? Thanks

[@scottgraham1153]

The lever actions by Heritage are the 92 platform.

[@mikemuhlbach2951]

Rossi from what Heritage told me on Friday

[@ozarkjackberlin1340]

CZ shotguns have been made in Turkey for years. Like everything, you get the quality you pay for.

[@Wizwiz2112]

I’ve seen them come down to low 700’s o high 600s online. Still too high. But they are already coming down. Same old story. Trying to get people to bite on a new offering. If you really want one wait another 6 months. But if you Put that side by side to the Stoeger supreme model coach gun. I would take that every time. Online price on that model around 500. I have the 20 gauge. Very happy with it. Beautiful piece. Will it last?I’m 65 now So yes probably. The Stoeger rugular coach gun is just north of 400 now.

[@Vernbubba]

I’ve seen them for $650 and will more than likely have one shortly

[@RequisiteFunction]

Fwiw the stock dimensions on the Stoeger coach guns are different between the 12 and 20. The 20 has less drop at heel/comb and has your eye closer to the bore. The 12 has more drop. Not like antique gun drop, but on the samples I compared, it was at least a 1/2" difference. This is worth mentioning cus shotgunning is supposed to be a fit and muscle memory thing. Switching between the two fits takes a little readjustment if you plan on doing any CAS style stuff.

[@sw640]

I bought one recently it shoots great I just need to polish up the hinges to make it easier to open. I do like that the safety doesn’t automatically engage. My stoeger is much better but what the hell, I might form 1 this one to make it even shorter

[@squawk3120]

I just got a Pietta 1878 hammer coach. Although its a beautiful looking gun QC seems sketchy..or I’m just picky. There are uneven gaps where the barrels go into the monoblock. The forend lug and 2” of the underside rib was left unsoldered on one side, so I cleaned, scuffed, recleaned and jb welded that side. The owners manual does say contact Davide Pedersoli on page 4 though ;) I’ve only shot 4 rounds with it, so no idea how it’ll hold up.

[@ericshindler5829]

I’ve had a lot of problems with spot rust with Stoegers that I purchased. How does this hold up?

[@briangomoll5965]

I got a "Springfield" 512 for 125 bucks. Shortened it up and reblued it for pennies. for almost 900 bucks, harder pass! 200 bucks, maybe.

[@ericshindler5829]

Currently you can purchase these for about $660. I am also ironing the sharp tail Coach gun if you have ever handled this particular one, how do they compare? Thank you.

[@rickwilliamson1417]

The herritage coah gun with hammers are beautiful and deadly

[@WORRO]

Absolutely beautiful shotgun brother! Thumbs up video ~John

[@lordhumungus2326]

G-force is making a nice classic coach gun too. Double triggers and exposed hammers. Around 400 bucks at Rural King. Cheers!

[@ebiker66]

I purchased this gun for $741.99 tax included today, I'm thinking a very Nice gun 😊happy so far.

[@brain4154]

you could've gotten an even better gun that looks identical for $241.99 cheaper lol

[@halfcirclehranch]

Years ago, i did both barrels at the same time with my Stoeger Coach gun, with 12 gauge 3 inch magnum slugs. That was uncomfortable.

[@Malpaise_Legate]

These would do well to have a homebrew 'antiqued' finish job. But for the final price tag of around $800 seemingly everywhere, most folks would likely prefer to buy a CZ side-by-side with a much nicer finish and screw-in choke set.

[@samwyckoff6216]

How was the recoil of both barrels?

[@dannyhayes664]

Double a single barrel.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

It was a big push, but not too bad. Slugs would make it much worse.

[@kevo-o-o]

The Harmons ammunition sticker killed me. All they are known for these day are expensive groceries!

[@ericshindler5829]

This or a cz sharp tail. They’re both made in turkey, but what might be the difference

[@stancassada2461]

Great review as always. Thanks

[@harrisonlewis6853]

So Dustin, the Heritage shotgun is an extractor, not an ejector model, right?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Correct.

[@harrisonlewis6853]

Thank you ,Dustin for your reply.

[@leemoore7573]

I live pascagoula ms how where could I purchase the heritage badlands coach gun please let me know

[@psycopaintball22]

At least the safety doesn't appear to auto-engage like my stoeger coach gun. I know it can be modded I just haven't gotten around to it yet

[@RequisiteFunction]

What's odd is that Taurus owns Heritage. Rossi had a very sweet coach gun offering, not too long ago. Why Heritage would go to Turkey instead of Brazil to have their doubles made is a bit of a head scratcher, especially since Taurus already owns the tooling to what was a very decent shotgun.

[@hailtothe_rooster1572]

I just looked this up after checking one out in a local store I expected a lower price coming from heritage. Hearing it’s from turkey drives home the point it absolutely needs to come down $300 or so. Looks good on the rack from a distance but once in the hand stoegers are way nicer at a lower price point even

[@michaelkulman7095]

Here's a quick way to check the choke with a simple dime. If it's a cylinder bore, the dime will have a lot of room to spare and exit end of the barrel. With improved cylinder choke the dime fits with a little room to spare. With modified choke the dime just fits. The dime will enter only a third of the way on a full choke.

[@BayM14]

Very nice video, gun looks fun to shoot!

[@gregoryfox9286]

The choke size should be in the proof marks on the barrel flats , something similar to 12/70 then a number, in metric giving the measurement at the muzzle.

[@crspcritter]

No hammers ? 🤔 looking at a emf coach shotgun . Still nice gun . 🙏🙏🙏

[@whspioneer89]

Have you tried the mini shells in it?

[@charleshodge1873]

The chokes are CYL Bore on both barrels. And 3 inch chambers.

[@btj1969]

Glad you survived the bandit attack. Those Carbon bandit Are brutal. Keep your navy loaded while making videos!!

[@daimajind7231]

Side by side comparison shootout between models under 1K would be cool for intro for SASS

[@royc2390]

extractors or ejectors?

[@Covert_Arrangements]

That’s a nice coach gun! 😊

[@ericshindler5829]

I just left Rural King. I handled this heritage shotgun and a Stoeger coach gun. The quality the fit and finish just overall 😢feel is better.

[@reptileguy8458]

I purchased a beautiful Stoeger 12 gauge coach gun for $590 Whats Heritage want for that shotgun?

[@old-school2337]

Can it shoot the mini shells?

[@hungarianhillbilly4144]

Does it have a 3 inch chamber?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

It does.

[@nonokodog622]

The safety doesn't engage on close. That's a huge win.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I agree!

[@rogerward3185]

Does the safety automatically engage?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

It does not.

[@heleti0000]

As far as Turkey made guns are concerned - I have an “over-under” and Lever Action 12g. Both are extremely well made, excellent finishes and fits and great to use. Can’t fault them. The Turks make some beautiful up-market Sporting Firearms.

[@Just1American1966]

I liked Heritage as an option for "beer-budget" recreational firearms. At twice the price of my double-hammer JW-2000 coach gun, and pushing $200 more than a Stoeger, I don't entertain one of these. However, if it is indeed built by the same maker of my TISAS 1911, I have no doubt it's a solid and rugged firearm.

[@canderoussnurd4265]

It looks like a real nice piece but for the price you’re paying for this you could buy two 870’s, Mossberg 500’s, Winchester SXPs or panzer arms M-4’s. I’d understand if this was a higher tier shotgun with ejectors and it came with an extra set of barrels for hunting. That would be well worth $800+ dollars. But for half the price I can get a AAA grade Stoeger that does the exact same thing and has a a huge aftermarket of spare parts. A nice price but way too expensive for what it is. But that’s just me. Either way I enjoyed the video.

[@pacanis]

It really surprised me that it does not reset the safety when you break it open to load, as seen around the 9 minute mark when you loaded it and then had to put the safety on. I really like that. But yeah, the price... But then everything is going up. Still, it's approaching CZ territory. And CZ is well, CZ.

[@phild8095]

Even on a Black Friday Sale with a price of seven bills out the door, it just begs the question "Are you guys at Heritage getting together with the guys at KelTec on the weekends to party? Is that where the price point came from?"

[@Matzah1982]

Them old shells went off like fresh ammo straight from the factory! Must have been stored properly in a dry dark consistent temperature environment in a sealed container

[@doranmaxwell1755]

Ok...just looked. The Chinese side by side century arms coach gun with exposed hammers (which I like) is running around $300 you could get two or three of em for the price of the heritage.. and the heritage is finished in ... road tar? while the cheaper ones are actually blued.

[@RequisiteFunction]

That Century gun hasn't been available in years. Everyone lists it but nobody stocks it. It's on permanent backorder, last I checked

[@doranmaxwell1755]

@@RequisiteFunction after looking at the price of both guns I can see why. The same thing happened with the chinese 97 shotgun it was around $450 and then all of a sudden it was sold out everywhere

[@SuperAirsoftGuy87]

Easy way to gage chokes on 12 gauge. See if a dime drops down the front. If it does, it's IC or cylinder. Won't go in? Modified or full

[@NWAAdventures]

Good review. Very nice but way too expensive for a Turkish import. The lack of external hammers is a deal breaker for me.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I believe they’re also releasing a version that has them.

[@Squib1911]

Wow! That old buckshot did the job.

[@dennisfain3784]

Hey Dustin, this is Dennis. I would like to know I just want to choke on that side by side 12 gauge shotgun. What is the whole length of the shotgun itself? I’ve never seen one close up and I would like to get to know if heritage I would like to have the heritage address so I could maybe call them or write to them to see if I could get one of those and your other row hair with your rifle that you got The one that was I guess is the heritage like the 100 won the worst Winchester of the 1873 I’m all lien to Western stuff and I are used to shoot a lot but I don’t get to shoot anymore right now due to other certain circumstance, but I would love to meet you in person, if it ever comes to the point where I can I like your videos yesterday and you do Splaine a lot about the guns but I’ve never seen you in the modern day western pistols like the Pieta type guns with Remington and holsters. Is there a problem you referred the 1801s better than then today’s pianos maybe you could do a video on them One day thanks this is my comments to you. Also, I would like the address to the company that knows western clothes I mean I can make up some of that ain’t gonna help me a bit specially if I want to be a mountain man tight tomorrow, man mountain man I don’t have any clothes like that, thanks you have a good day. This is Dennis Fain signing off to you. Great day Dustin.

[@jesseboutdoors]

People don’t like Turkish firearms for political reasons. I have two shotguns and two pistols that were made over there. They are some of the best firearms I own.

[@Sven_E07]

Politics are one thing. The other thing is fairness. You're right.

[@ArmedAndIndigenous]

Which shows their blatant ignorance

[@ian5780]

Watch the video that James reeves did on the semi auto that Ukraine bought. (with our money) it didn't survive a 500 round test.

[@chrisschmidt355]

@jesseboutdoors I don't think that's right at all. I know quite a few people who own and love various Turkish made pistols. I also know quite a few people who say they wouldn't buy a Turkish firearm. The folks who wouldn't buy one base their opinions on quality, or perceived lack of quality, from unknown manufacturers. I have never heard politics brought into the conversation. I have watched a lot of KZbin videos where Turkish made firearms have been reviewed or at least discussed, and I have never heard politics brought into the conversation. People I know that have bought Turkish shotguns tend to think they're sub-par quality. KZbin reviews I've seen on Turkish shotguns tend to talk highly of them, but when KZbinrs actually test them they tend to think they're sub-par quality. I've never heard politics brought into the conversation. I do not own any Turkish made guns of any sort, so I can't speak authoritatively on their quality. I don't refuse to buy one, I just haven't. I'm really more of a gun accumulator than I am a gun collector. When I wander into a gun shop I'll probably walk out with whatever firearm(s) that happen to stand up and wave at me. Sooner or later something Turkish will certainly certainly convince me to take it home. Maybe it'll be this Heritage SxS who knows. Point is, any dislike I've ever heard anyone voice about Turkish firearms has been based on quality arguments, even if those arguments were not well founded. In fact, your comment is the first time I've ever heard politics come up. With myself and the folks I know it's all about the Gats. Perhaps you should reevaluate the caliber (see what I did there?) of people you hang out with.

[@jesseboutdoors]

@@ian5780 it happens. All mine are pushing 1,000 rounds.

[@bluescatreimer]

Nice shotgun, it looks like it has an ejector for the empty shells.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

It has the typical extractor that pulls them out slightly, but not an ejector.

[@bluescatreimer]

@GunsOfTheWest Thanks Dustin.

[@Osprey78]

Both barrels at the same time, so that makes it a 6ga?

[@montelinn5897]

Is it pot metal crap like their revolvers

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Definitely not. These are made in Turkey and the quality is great!

[@TheLoneRanger745]

That Fruitoes gangster didn't stand a chance 🤣😂🤣😂 ❤

[@Indarow]

If it was around $400 I’d consider it, but for nearly a grand I’m out. Great lookin gun though!

[@evanswinford7165]

My Weatherby SA-08 is a made in Turkey. I didn't buy so the fact it's made in Turkey is not at hand. I won it in a Friends of the NRA raffle helps at the Verdi, Nevada Cabellas. It's very nice;y made works great. I see no problems with it.

[@JusticeWaleford]

They need too make one with exposed hammers if they don't already in my opinion

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I believe they’re releasing one of those as well.

[@greenbroccolistudios1275]

*plays House building music from rdr2 by rockstar games*

[@sw640]

Mine was $699 expensive but I like it

[@vehdynam]

Quite a punch with both barrels ! Nice shotgun , thanks for showing.

[@ericshindler5829]

Made by huglu the same folks that makes the CZ sharp tail

[@grumpyoldretiredcop8382]

Good review. Regretfully, at the $630 that I see as the lowest price at the moment it's a hard pass.

[@williamcrawford7982]

Marked on underside, maybe?

[@reddawn2001]

someone really needs to come out with a version with external hammers (that's not $1200)

[@HarshmanHills]

Love a side by side but that price point is way too much imo