Gurmat Sangeet & The Rag Nirnayak Committee Controversy

A compilation of contrasting views based upon research into the rags of Gurmat Sangeet and the Rag Nirnayak Committee, originally convened by Baba Sucha Singh of Jawaddi Taksal in 1990-1991.
Featuring the late Prof Kartar Singh, a member of the committee and director of Jawaddi Taksal at the time, Principal Sukhwant Singh, a prominent disciple of Baba Sucha Singh, and Prof Ravail Singh, teacher at the Shaheed Sikh Missionary college for ragis, Amritsar.
#gurmatsangeet #shabadkirtan #punjab

[@JaswinderKaur-mk7vq]

Professor Rawel Singh g ne apne dil de Valvle zahir keete bahut changi gall hai.

[@Kaleem-on5tl]

Bhai gee salam, please tell me about the great legendary Bhai Roora Bhai Boora gee. Waiting for your prompt reply.

[@sukhichana]

This actually shows the reality of how this committee made bad decisions about the Gurmat Sangeet Raags published but Jawaddi. Indian Classical music has been around for thousands of years, since The Saraswati Goddess. So does mean Sikhs should discard the Raag our Guru Jis sung "Dhur-Ki-Banni? According to statement made by Prof Ji in this interview, we shouldn't only sing Miya-Ki-Malhar, Darbari Kanara (as he sung), Basant (Purvi Thaat), etc. Keep in mind that Tansan (employeed by Akbar Raga) came almost 100 years after Guru Nanak Dev Ji. So do he really think that Guru Nanak sung Kanara Shabads in Darbari Kanara? And we can call it Nardharik Raag? The logic of keeping the original Hindu Raags is also wrong and offensive to Sikhs because Tansan change these Raags and made Miya-Ki-Malhar, Miya-Ki-Todi, Darbari Kanara, and many others. These Tansan Raags acceptable (and sung by Prof. Ji) but the Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Raags are not acceptable. These are our Guru Ji Sikh Raags that are so difficult that Classical Singer don't sing (Assa, Maru, Gaund, Tukahri, and many others). They Classical Singer sing may sing a mixture of two Raags like Maru-Behag, Yeman-Kalyan or Gaund-Malhar, etc But they never sing Maru, Gaund, Kalyan, (just KZbin Classical Raga, and you will see this) When MG Gandhi Ji passed-away, Bhai Santa Singh Ji sung a Shabad in Maru, (Jagat Mein Jhutthi Dekhi Preet). It is more in line with what Prof Kartar Singh ji sung. But it seem like this Committee was quick to go to a Vedi ji in all these Raags (like Maru, Tukahri, and others) and dismissed the Sikh Raagis like Bhai Santa Singh Ji, Bhai Samund Singh Ji, Bhai Avtar Singh-Bhai Gurcharan Singh Ji, (authenticated by Samund Singh in their two books published by Patiala University) and all the Rababi Kirtan Jatha that still sing their heritage Raags (but not the DC Vedi Maru). Humble apologies if this was offensive to anyone but it was entented to expose the truth of changing and omitting Guru Nanak Dev Ji and all our Gurus Raags that were unique from the Classical Raag being sung in Brothel during that era. Our Gurus all made unique string instruments for the same reason. No Taus or Sarandha was ever played in a Brothel.

[@Legion2905]

Guru Nanak dev ji di bani hai hi nhi raag kanra vich, guru ramdas dev ji di , guru arjan dev ji di ate bhagat naamdev ji di bani hai

[@Blissful_seeker]

@@Legion2905😂baaki koi gall ni palle pyi

[@noorangadsingh1746]

I still believe that Professor Kartar Singh's version of Raag Maru should have been accepted .Daas di Bhul Chuk Maaf , WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!

[@itz_eagle.06]

ਮੇਰੇ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਉਸਤਾਦ ਜੀ ਪ੍ਰੋਫੈਸਰ ਰਵੇਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ❤

[@harinderjitsinghdhaliwal5933]

13:25 Prof. Kartar Singh ji's version of Maaru almost sounds like a crying scene.... Great seva to panth of Baba Sucha Singh ji 🙏

[@JaswinderKaur-mk7vq]

Sanu Sant Baba Sucha Singh g de Uddam nu hamesha Salute Karna Chahida hai.Jiu jiu communication vadhea Vichar Sanjhe.hoe tan hi differances samajh aae.Baba g ne 8 din swere 8vje ton lai k raat de 11 vje tak raagan da nirnay karan lai 74 jo mere sahmne othe Hazir san Vadmulle vicharan vale Partakh Praveen log

[@JaswinderKaur-mk7vq]

Sabh ne apne raagan de Saroop dasse te apne vichaar rakhe Kai jehde ragan de vich confusion c ohne te kafi shor mach janda c. Koi mannan nu tiaar nhi hunda sabh nu apna swaroop theek lagda c.Fer hath khade krae jande jis swaroop d acceptance ziada hundu us nu sir niva k mannea janda. Koi zor zabardasti nhi hoi

[@13kirtan13]

Bakamaal interview Thanks for uploading ❤❤❤

[@bhairajindersinghjaap1313]

Prof. Rawel s ji ne eko gll vich define kr dita ke khalistan te ny baneya pr sangeetk stan bn gya 😢

[@manmeetsingh767]

Ustad prof kartar singh ji 😢❤

[@harjitsingh7808]

ਕ੍ਰੋੜਾ ਵਾਰ ਨਮਸਕਾਰ ਹੈ ਸੰਤ ਬਾਬਾ ਸੁੱਚਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਸੰਗੀਤ ਦੀ ਪੰਥ ਬਹੁਤ ਵੱਡੀ ਦੇਣ ਹੈ ਸਾਰਾ ਉੱਦਮ ਸੰਤ ਬਾਬਾ ਸੁੱਚਾ ਜੀਆਂ ਦਾ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@noorangadsingh1746]

The original Shuddh BASANT of the GURU GHAR ( GURU SAHIB JI'S BASANT) is not of Bilwal thaat but Kalyan thaat .Bhul Chuk Maaf , WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!

[@jassimarsingh6505]

First time im hearing this, raag shuddha basant always had a bilaval thaat, there's a poorvi thaat which is more popular today, but I always thought the bilaval thaat was the original of the guru Ghar.

[@sahibnoorsingh2940]

Bhai avtar singh ji ne kalyan thaat likhya

[@jassimarsingh6505]

@@sahibnoorsingh2940 par Bhai avtar Singh ji ne guru amardas ji di original composition padi si ate thaat bilaval chi si

[@jassimarsingh6505]

@@sahibnoorsingh2940 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKqwi5WIgtGYqsk

[@noorangadsingh1746]

@@jassimarsingh6505 Nahi GURU PYAREYO , TUM SACH DHIAVOH MUGADH MANA wali pavitr SHABAD REET BHAI AVTAR SINGH JI GURCHARAN SINGH JI jisde bare tusi gal karde pae ho o BHAI AVTAR SINGH JI GURCHARAN Singh Ji ne apni kitab GURBANI SANGEET PRACHEEN REET RATNAVALI andar KALYAN THAAT RAAG BASANT vich hi darj kiti hai ji . Bhul Chuk Maaf , WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!

[@agamvirsingh7709]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqfIpWB4iamjesUsi=dBxgNTl0gjMS4Wdb 16:40

[@jaspalsingh-le2mq]

Professor ravel singh ji great words ❤

[@gurvailsingh8930]

Jawaddi taksal te sukhwant wargya ne gurmat Sangeet da parsar ki krna berha e garak krta

[@SANGEETVIRASAT.]

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[@gursewakSingh-gt4qh]

ਗੁਣੀਜਨ ❤

[@JaspalSingh63]

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