The NEW McLaren W1: A worthy successor to the F1 and P1? | Henry Catchpole - The Driver's Seat

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@Dragonson575
@Dragonson575 13 күн бұрын
"Allow our customers to extract the maximum performance." Those customers are not extracting s**t. We all know these engineering marvels are going straight to a temperature and moisture controlled room.
@_odaxelagnia
@_odaxelagnia 13 күн бұрын
More like "Itll allow us to extraxt the maximum funds from our customers"
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
@mitchell-wallisforce7859 13 күн бұрын
@@_odaxelagnia Which, in fairness, is a damn good hustle.
@andrerashad203
@andrerashad203 13 күн бұрын
@@Dragonson575‼️ No kap
@9-and-3
@9-and-3 13 күн бұрын
exactly. in today's day and age affordability is the name of the game. it is no more no surprise to anyone that any product in any area is offering tremendous performance at a huge price tag. the only envelope that is being pushed here is the ask price :)
@narrowistheway77
@narrowistheway77 13 күн бұрын
Generally speaking only about 10% of the initial customers of these cars drive them as intended. On the second hand market around 1/3 of the cars will end up racking up miles. The rest end up personal museum pieces….
@Te1ecastermaster
@Te1ecastermaster 13 күн бұрын
Love your work Henry. I do think however that your intro says it all behind why people aren't excited about the W1. If you have to explain the car in minute detail, and describe why its so special, it misses a bit of the point. And I don't know how to describe it, but somehow Gordon Murray goes into excruciating detail with every part, but somehow the product feels more organic and has a soul. Modern Mclarens all seem so antiseptic and clinical.
@PS91195
@PS91195 12 күн бұрын
The other issue is that manufacturers seem to come out with something „special“ every other year nowadays - especially McLaren, Aston and Ferrari Since the P1 we had what? Senna, Speedtail, Sabre, Elva and Solus? Can‘t blaim them for taking advantage of the market for 1m+ Cars - but of course the „one-in-ten years“ car won‘t feel special any more Same with that horrible F80
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 12 күн бұрын
And what's the problem with antiseptic and clinical cars? The 992 GT3 RS is antisepctic and clinical and no one complained. If you wanted driving experience just buy a GR 86 and drive it hard.
@Kylirr
@Kylirr 5 күн бұрын
@@sidesauce 2D thought patterns
@michaelhetherington5516
@michaelhetherington5516 13 күн бұрын
Not that I'll ever have the money, but If I did I'd be spending it with Gordon Murray.
@mdsuave13
@mdsuave13 13 күн бұрын
Whoa, thanks for that recommendation... T.50 looks BALLER AF..
@darrylwalker1867
@darrylwalker1867 13 күн бұрын
Indeed. One of the great things about Gordon Murray Automotive is that HE explains it in detail, every detail. He takes the time to explain the car that HE envisaged and (with others) shepherded into life. He explains it in a way that is clear, concise, and compelling. The fellow in this video is responding to questions and covering elements in a very competent, but (for mine) not COHESIVE way.
@russellb1176
@russellb1176 13 күн бұрын
You won't be buying anything from Gordan Murray
@Orcawhale1
@Orcawhale1 13 күн бұрын
Id prefer a beautiful woman, but you do you.
@lukenemeth
@lukenemeth 13 күн бұрын
​@@darrylwalker1867 There is a lot more to explain with the W1 compared to the T.50 - 350 hours in an F1-proven wind tunnel (McLaren's F1 results owe a lot to their state-of-the-art wind tunnel) provide a lot of learnings. The content is useful to imagine how this car could be faster than the F80, T.50 but I understand that you have to be so inclined to enjoy this. The results will be out on track!
@ambushell5778
@ambushell5778 13 күн бұрын
I think people would be a lot more excited about it if they simply painted all the lower carbon pieces. the two-tone paint it has now hides a lot of the body shape
@frostwise87
@frostwise87 9 күн бұрын
I agree, it looks good but not £2million good and certainly not beautiful like the f1 was. you only had to glance at the f1 to see its beauty but this im not so sure
@K3b1bisLtu
@K3b1bisLtu 9 күн бұрын
I definitely agree. I like two-tone paint jobs, but the orange should be covering the majority of the car.
@fireblade3655
@fireblade3655 6 сағат бұрын
@@frostwise87 The people buying them dont care about the price, they will go from the dealership straight to collections.
@khackett7
@khackett7 13 күн бұрын
It feels so weird to be past the “peak” of hypercars/supercars.
@rodhalligan5136
@rodhalligan5136 13 күн бұрын
good comment. it had to happen at some point. But it fell apart very quickly with the F80 and W1 being so bad
@khackett7
@khackett7 13 күн бұрын
There are some inspiring cars right now for sure. 12Cilindre is amazing, Koenigsegg keeps breaking the mold, the ZR1 is kinda inspiring in its own way, Gordon Murrays efforts are amazing, so I retract a little, but these “hypercars” are… overdone imo. How much tech do ppl actually care about?
@barryfastcars25
@barryfastcars25 12 күн бұрын
After the T.50 and T.33 is there any hope for other brands?!
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 12 күн бұрын
@@barryfastcars25t33 is my peak. And a gt3 touring
@MuppetsSh0w
@MuppetsSh0w 12 күн бұрын
@@rodhalligan5136 You not being able to see beyond the first impression aesthetics speak more about the shallowness of your though proces rather than the car. What a enthusiast you are...
@hangar7automotive
@hangar7automotive 13 күн бұрын
Is anyone else getting bored of limited number ultra-expensive hyper/supercars that are sold out before release and immediately stored in huge collections to never be seen? Wow this is going to look so cool in a warehouse in Dubai...
@stephenwouw8624
@stephenwouw8624 12 күн бұрын
Well let's be honest here! The government in the UK, EU are all pushing the green deal, forcing manufacturers like Ferrari to produce more electric rather than what the market wants and if people don't buy, Ferrari gets punished. Also cars are mandated to be less noisy. trials have been done to implement sound checks alongside speed check, and therefore they want to fine you for having a loud v12! So you can't blame the people leaving the EU and leaving the UK and live more freely and less tax intensive in Dubai.
@Panos1420
@Panos1420 11 күн бұрын
What do you care bro you aren't buying it😭😭😭
@smirkingrevenge6
@smirkingrevenge6 11 күн бұрын
Do you mean in a flooded carpark in Dubai? Its a shame... Where engineering now is incredibly impressive, and this needs to happen before we feel flow on effects to consumers. Look to past technologies that trickles down through peak racing into high end road to now normal... Abs for example....but, this is the price of progress, and I'm excited to see manufacturers still keen to 'normalise' such technical talk into what we will eventually take for granted
@stephenwouw8624
@stephenwouw8624 11 күн бұрын
@@smirkingrevenge6here’s the thing, you’ve mentioned the trickle down technology but that only happens when the sport is pushing technology. If I look at f1 the v6 hybrid technology is already 12 years old! And in 2026 they are moving towards 4 cylinders engines with hybrid tech. So there is your tech coming your way! And next in line is aerodynamic efficiency. The hyper focus on aerodynamics because thats where the freedom lies. But in that aspect we see a ceiling rather. They are exploring ground effect, but why truly needs ground effect on a Kia? That’s just the trickle down from f1 straight onto road cars. And what you see is the high end cars having design elements that mimics ground effect design. It’s ridiculous. It’s a joke that the styling of a bmw m3 is aggressive and have ground effect elements. It’s in my terms pure vulgar! So v6 hybrid, 4 cylinder hybrid, aerodynamic hyper focus, it’s not what the customer wants! In the higher end, luxury, sports and hyper car segment the trend is clear. The customer wants bigger and louder engines! Something that looks insane because it’s designed that way not because of aero efficiency. Now aero efficiency makes much for sense on cars that potentially can go fast. So on that end of the spectrum we have Aston Martin Valkyrie. Designed by the master himself Adrian Newey. Every aspect of that car has a purpose with a hyperfocus on aero efficiency. All the figures makes sense and are justified. But to say it looks beautiful? I beg to differ. It’s an automotive marvel, very impressive. Big engine is a massive selling point. But there is only so much you can trickle down from that! Next there is the obvious problem of the government! They are demanding all sorts of things especially to make things more safe and more clean and efficient. And they declared war on sports cars. Speeding will be a regular occurrence if regulations will drop down maximum speeds to a human running pace. Add to that limiting on loud exhausts. So the masses will have to deal with all the regulations. And they are offered the boring cars, the utility object, it drives you from a to b. That’s it! It’s no different than your dishwasher. And clearly people want something different. But governments forbids it. The only ones who have the ability to get what they want is the people with means to buy cars that doesn’t necessarily abide to the rules. And these are the hyper cars. But since governments are clamping down on the manufacturers, the customers appetite isn’t addressed. So they resort to more extreme cars, Bugatti, Pagani, and the hyper cars. You can hardly drive these things in Europe or UK. Without having several fines for every time you drive it. So they track their cars or put them away just to look at. My opinion if it’s just going to be eye candy make it actual beautiful! Making things aero efficient isn’t necessary beautiful! I believe mankind has past a mark to what is in my opinion the golden age of automobiles. Cars are becoming more utilitarian only. Beauty isn’t a metric that is necessary. Regulations is taking away the soul, the experience. And cars being a display of wealth is becoming vilified in left leaning societies. Stick your head above the grass we cut your head off. Only few places in the world where you can drive these cars to your heart’s content. And that’s the future for you.
@Anonymous_0894
@Anonymous_0894 10 күн бұрын
​@@hangar7automotive Like you were ever able to afford them. Exotic cars have been treated like this for ages, it's only now that people are starting to get annoyed. Why?
@budthecyborg4575
@budthecyborg4575 13 күн бұрын
0:30 "Big Numbers" Indeed that is half the problem with the W1. Gemera has 82% more power output (and four seats with luggage for four), Tourbillon has twice as many cylinders and goes at least 277MPH, and Valkyrie is the highest downforce car in history. Meanwhile GMA, Pagani and Lamborghini continue to use V12s to great effect. W1 is no doubt the best McLaren ever made but it doesn't do anything to separate itself from the competition.
@nodo7575
@nodo7575 13 күн бұрын
Let it lap tracks first
@budthecyborg4575
@budthecyborg4575 13 күн бұрын
@@nodo7575 I have been saying one of the best marketing moves McLaren could make would be to beat the AMG One around the Nurburgring, at least that sets a benchmark for value relative to other hypercars with similar design ethos.
@stevenkelby2169
@stevenkelby2169 13 күн бұрын
W1 is also very heavy for what it is.
@rodhalligan5136
@rodhalligan5136 13 күн бұрын
@@nodo7575 because that matters - as much as your opinion
@oneeleven9832
@oneeleven9832 12 күн бұрын
Personally i think it’s all about how a car feels to drive & lightness is key..not sure how heavy a Gemera is but a Tourbillon will be heavy…they are all fast top speeds & power are pretty irrelevant to most..
@noadolic9653
@noadolic9653 13 күн бұрын
Not even the McLaren guy seems to be excited about the car, lol
@bobdobbs6969
@bobdobbs6969 12 күн бұрын
Honestly, I came here for this comment. Very flat performance...it looked like Henry was trying to get him to talk about the car.
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 12 күн бұрын
Must be a typical grey day in the uk and he hasn’t had his cup of tea yet 😂
@cafe88racer53
@cafe88racer53 12 күн бұрын
they arent gunning for number one just like lando lol
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 12 күн бұрын
Engineers are never excited at this stage of their career. 😂
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 12 күн бұрын
idk, he seems pretty knowledgeable and is genuinely happy with how the car ended up. I'd say he doesn't have that overexaggerated KZbinr hype voice so it sounds boring to you.
@strykerman7888
@strykerman7888 13 күн бұрын
I like this car but the T50 is the real F1 successor.
@splysavv
@splysavv 13 күн бұрын
It’s disrespectful to the F1 to call any cars its successor. The F1 is the pinnacle of car culture. Beautiful appearance, perfect balance of form and function. Screaming V12 heart and soul, for power and sound. 242 mph by unassisted engine power and aerodynamic engineering. Iconic centered-driver, three seat interior design. The car won Le Mans with no more than a wing a racing tires added. There hasn’t been a successor to the F1. Not yet.
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
@mitchell-wallisforce7859 13 күн бұрын
@@splysavv Eh, go easy on the T.50: it's so close to the spirit of Murray's ideal for the F1 anyway that calling it a spiritual successor isn't entirely wrong. Sure, it's not a top speed demon, but that was incidental with the F1 anyway.
@splysavv
@splysavv 13 күн бұрын
we just have different perspectives. Sure the T.50 is Murray’s successor to Murray’s F1 but it’s just not the successor to the pinnacle of car culture the F1 is to me. The F1 is your poster car’s poster car. In my opinion the T.50 just isn’t going to appreciate the same way the F1 did after 30 years.
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
@mitchell-wallisforce7859 13 күн бұрын
@@splysavv You're probably right about the appreciation factor, though IDK how much of that is in the T.50's control.... It's a billion-dollar hypercar in a market now saturated with them. When it came out, there were only about 4-5 other cars with a performance window (or price) in the same _continent_ as the F1, despite it being more of an ultra-fast grand tourer than a razor-sharp sports car. Even the P1 didn't have to live with a supercar market this crowded - it had TWO peers instead of a dozen. Ten years later and we have the Hennessy Venom F5, Bugatti Tourbillon, Rimac Nevera (and a slew of other EV exotics like it), Koenigsegg Jesko, Aston Martin Valkyrie, Pagani Utopia, Mercedes-AMG One, Ferrari F80, and _this,_ and that's leaving out the track specials like the Red Bull RB17. *All within three years.* TL;DR: We no longer live in an era where a heavy-hitting halo car could win you sole ownership of the spotlight, and that has consequences for how these cars are seen. Hell, as I typed all of this out I realized I barely even remembered what the F5, Tourbillon, and Utopia LOOKED like.
@splysavv
@splysavv 13 күн бұрын
@ said it better than I could’ve. I agree and thank you.
@peterdalton649
@peterdalton649 10 күн бұрын
Again, Mr. Catchpole, your presentation is vastly superior to any other. Thank you for this exceptionally thorough and entertaining introduction to what is, by any measure, a truly exceptional product.
@maxmustermann9669
@maxmustermann9669 12 күн бұрын
could't care less. As much as i like Henrys content i didn't make it through the first 4 Minutes.
@dflack
@dflack 11 сағат бұрын
I lasted 10, just about.
@TechPanzer
@TechPanzer 13 күн бұрын
I may very well be wrong, but this feels like McLaren got in touch with Hagerty to make a video to convince people that they should be excited about the W1. This car is extremely capable on paper and might be the best McLaren has ever made but doesn't have a gravitas comparable to its spec sheet. Fact is, for a significant amount of people, the design is a hard miss and it's hard for people to care about a supercar/hypercar that they don't find visually appealing. Looking forward to the W1's successor, maybe bring back Frank Stephenson.
@TC-lk2ev
@TC-lk2ev 13 күн бұрын
That kinda what i was thinking. Nobody really cared about the W1 so they needed to do a promo video. Unfortunately this video is like watching paint dry. Could be worse though, we could be watching the F80.
@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast
@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast 13 күн бұрын
@TechPanzer I thought it was a miss when I first saw it. It can have all of the specs in the world, but in a world where EVERYTHING has good specs, it's the design, function and tactility that really sets cars at this price point apart imo. The p1 was a solid and beautiful successor to the f1. This just looks like another generic supercar
@TC-lk2ev
@TC-lk2ev 13 күн бұрын
@@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast I think this'll look dope in all black, but i gotta say that rear air intake is just a weird shape. I feel like with this gen of hypercars they're trying to push the numbers so much that aesthetics have taken the backseat to aero and it kinda kills the appeal. I guess its all irrelevant cause ill never drive or see one haha.
@robertcook2572
@robertcook2572 13 күн бұрын
Do you mean it may not appeal to 'the fool multitude that choose by show'?
@DavidDatura
@DavidDatura 13 күн бұрын
Yes, I got that feeling too. Especially at the beginning and end of the video where you see the guy holding that silly microscope as a prop to represent putting the W1 “under the microscope” a bit on the nose there, no? 😏
@johnsim3722
@johnsim3722 12 күн бұрын
Ultimately where this is going to succeed is where the Valkyrie failed. It's a road car, for the road. Seems like a strange statement to make, but the discussions Henry had reminded me of what Gordon Murray said about the original McLaren F1, taking into account the centre of pressure. And how he had to fight his instincts to deliver a road car. This will work on the road, you won't need an F1 team to lift you in and out of it like you'd imagine they need with the Valkyrie, which is also handy for when it breaks down on you, they're there to fix it or put it on a flatbed. This definitely continues the line of excellence by McLaren, F1, P1, W1. First, Pole, Win.
@budthecyborg4575
@budthecyborg4575 13 күн бұрын
1:25 "Formula 1 car wrapped in a road car body" Given that modern F1 cars are heavy and sound horrible it's no wonder people feel conflicted about the W1.
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon 13 күн бұрын
F1 cars might not be as impressive as they could be because of the regultations... they are still a technological marvel, considering the engineers who have to work within the regulations still do an incredible job of getting the best out of what they are allowed to do.
@Corvolet5
@Corvolet5 13 күн бұрын
Also break down after a few runs. Not the smartest idea to put this engine on the road.
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon 13 күн бұрын
@@Corvolet5 The W1 doesn't have an F1 engine... also F1 engines are more reliable than ever, as well as teams being restricted to having to use only a few engines per season (otherwise they incur penalties when exceeding that limit). Whereas before teams could use a brand new engine every race.
@Corvolet5
@Corvolet5 13 күн бұрын
@@Nemoticon And yet the AMG One needs a full factory rebuild after 31,000 miles. Interesting.
@thomson765
@thomson765 13 күн бұрын
@@Corvolet5 which is a multitude of full F1 seasons
@KiwisDownUnder
@KiwisDownUnder 13 күн бұрын
Having recently read Adrian Newey's book, and a greater appreciation (not the same as understanding) of aero, and I can certainly get the connection to F1, which is continually trying to use aero to achieve greater performance against ever changing regulatory rules. The W1 is certainly impressive levels of innovation and detail. Not sure why the Doris's in the comments section are so negative. Honestly grow up. Another great video from Catchpole et al.
@richardhammock2829
@richardhammock2829 12 күн бұрын
Problem is... there are many people whose main reason for loving cars isn't necessarily engineering. For me, enjoying a car like this should not be limited to driving or maxing out on track in order to enjoy the car. It should be an experience no matter where you're driving the car or whether you even own it or not. They should dazzle you. This car doesn't.
@nightshifted
@nightshifted 13 күн бұрын
Now that performance numbers are irrelevant for road use, I bet cars like this have to be driven to be appreciated.
@cdangers
@cdangers 13 күн бұрын
I just couldn't listen to the drone of speech in this video. The difference between the energy of the car and of the presenter couldn't have been more stark.
@gcmarcrod
@gcmarcrod 13 күн бұрын
Don't know what people are on about the W1 looks savage.
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 13 күн бұрын
they are all based on the 720 series. thats why.
@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast
@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast 13 күн бұрын
Park it next to a p1, its going to look like like just another mclaren
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 13 күн бұрын
in certain angles it looks super nice, but in others it looks really bad (compared to other supercars), but atleast it looks better than the Ferrari F80. Still not a problem for me since I could not afford any of them anyway :D
@spawnnpwn4166
@spawnnpwn4166 13 күн бұрын
@@gcmarcrod they could have done the front better. It looks a bit lego'ish. Still awesome though
@aguruattapiano
@aguruattapiano 13 күн бұрын
Well, these days there's TONS of cars that look savage 🤷‍♂️
@Tmrfe0962
@Tmrfe0962 11 күн бұрын
Love this channel, nd all the connected hosts, they all bring a terrific level,of knowledge of our shared passion to life. Thank you. Hagerty.
@petesbeats4829
@petesbeats4829 13 күн бұрын
I always found it difficult to get excited about the new McLarens. They all look extremely similar and I don't understand the model hierarchy
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 13 күн бұрын
That's like saying you can't get excited about the 911s because they all look extremely similar and you don't understand the model hierarchy
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 12 күн бұрын
It really isnt hard if you invest 1 hour to study it. After that your good. There really isnt that many models to remember.
@MuppetsSh0w
@MuppetsSh0w 12 күн бұрын
@@BobbyDazzler888 One hour? A 30 second look at their website would suffice. it's literally 650S -> 720S then 570S -> Artura and the ones with 1 in their name are hypercars. The rest are special projects. That's literally it.
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 12 күн бұрын
@@jammaschan The 911 is one car tho. The rest of Porsche is fine. But Mclaren, the whole range feels like this. Same carbon tub, same v8, and very similar styling, so why is this one 4 times the price? Add to that that Mclaren change their models in what seems half the time of Ferrari or Lambo, and the extremley top heavy nature of the releases (Theyre calling this the P1 succesor, but since then weve had the Senna, the speedtail, and about half a dozen others). They oversaturate their own brand, with constant tiny evolutions that dont necesitate a whole new car. Like, why the 750s? Why couldnt it have just been a 720s evo, or even just a facelift with slightly better performance. Theres nothing wrong with that, as the R35 GTR has shown, having been on the market for nearly 20 years.
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 12 күн бұрын
@@dylanburston7453 everything you say can kinda apply to any hypercar manufacturer, pagani is still making new special zondas every now ans then even though they said they'd stop, bugatti milked the chiron for quite a long while, like who cares. They make cool cars, and that's all that really matters to me. Mclaren is still relatively new, and with it changing hand so many times in a short while due to financial trouble, I'm just happy that they're still doing what they do. (PS I absolutely don't agree with anyone saying all mclarens look the same. You can't tell me the 650s looks like the 720s or that either of those look like the w1 or senna or speedtail. Artura and the gt and 570s all look pretty different too. What are you guys on about?)
@andrewg7576
@andrewg7576 13 күн бұрын
Great video. Appreciated the focus on the details.
@Cas_anova
@Cas_anova 13 күн бұрын
I never see the F1 as having much to do with McLaren, the P1 or the W1. It's Gordon Murray who's got his own line of cars now.
@williamfischer3990
@williamfischer3990 13 күн бұрын
Based on the design it looks like McLaren morphed the Senna and P1 together. The only issue with these extreme Hypercars is that they aren’t pretty. The closer they get to F1 cars the less appealing to the eye they become.
@philallen7626
@philallen7626 12 күн бұрын
Not just the extreme hypercars. A lot of supercars are a bit samey, all shaped around aero. The really pretty cars are the fast GT cars, DB12, GranTurismo & Roma.
@mikevadvilavich1414
@mikevadvilavich1414 12 күн бұрын
I agree, but with the current generation of these hybrid hypercars I think this McLaren looks miles better than the Ferrari F80, which is pretty fugly no matter what it's numbers are.
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev 13 күн бұрын
Well done Henry, an excellent deep dive into the engineering endeavour behind this remarkable vehicle. Trouble is I would like one now but then that is its job, to be treasured by the few who can afford it and the many who can't.
@donaldvankleeck2004
@donaldvankleeck2004 10 күн бұрын
Stunning... and those numbers are plenty WOW enough for anyone who gets to experience them on the road.
@amode8761
@amode8761 9 күн бұрын
Was disappointed in the looks when it was initially shown but listening to the engineering behind it really helps to appreciate its an incredible vehicle - thanks McLaren for this beaut and also Hagerty for proving us this every in depth video with McLaren to explain it all
@nightshifted
@nightshifted 13 күн бұрын
I appreciate the technical depth. We’re beyond just ooh-ing and ahh-ing at numbers and looks. It takes this kind of understanding to really appreciate a new car like this.
@stephenwouw8624
@stephenwouw8624 12 күн бұрын
Okay, so you now understand it better but is it pretty? Are you in awe every time you walk towards it? Or is some sick come up depending on which angle you approach it? Many things in life isn't quantifiable! It's not all about the numbers and statistics. But what feel does it unlock. The P1 back then was astonishing at first sight. It didn't matter how many horsepower or how much downforce it has at 120 mph. You want it, see it drive it, hear it! The hyper focus on performance and steering away from beauty hasn't been fruitful for many companies. Look at the new Bentley Continental! The 2019 was a beautiful thing to look at, lavishly equiped with leather and luxury. But the recent iteration is all about the performance, it's a hybrid and the design is more aggressive. Something I do see in the front headlights of the W1. A hyper car doesn't need aggressive styling.
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 12 күн бұрын
@@stephenwouw8624 Tbh the continental gt 2019 taillights were worse than the previous generation square taillights. Either way, if I wanted a beautiful car, I wouldn't get the P1 either. That thing looks way too overcomplicated. The 918 was the clean and beautiful one out of the trinity, not to mention that it also performed the best out of the bunch.
@stephenwouw8624
@stephenwouw8624 12 күн бұрын
@ ​​⁠I cannot argue with personal preference. And for your preferences it’s indeed clean design. 918 is a special car but I’ve seen all three of them and the P1 is more special, and the La Ferrari truly special. James May would say it’s gives you the fizz. And that’s why the 918 never truly got me. As for the Conti GT the new one just looks more aggressive. Making things look more aggressive is the most lazy way of designing a car. There is an entire multi million dollar after market industry to make any car look more aggressive. We’ve seen BMW coming the most undesirable brand in the upper segment. Last question. 918 or Carrera GT?
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 12 күн бұрын
@stephenwouw8624 918 because it doesn't kill me. If I wanted the cgt experience (which I definitely do) I'd buy an lfa instead. (PS the laferrari looks bad ngl, maybe it drives amazing but man I can't get past how weird it looks)
@richardhammock2829
@richardhammock2829 12 күн бұрын
​@@stephenwouw8624 The evocativeness of cars is why I like to think cars can be art. It can be an experience and make you yearn for it even if you are just looking at it. Unfortunately, Ferrari and McLaren are too focused on making their cars fast that they took away the art. I don't really see myself taking pictures of them if I see them, even if I know I won't see them in person again
@jtbDDOepMNNVIpk
@jtbDDOepMNNVIpk 11 күн бұрын
25:43 Henry getting his ab workout in at the office. Excellent multitasking. 😉
@institutmorningkiss
@institutmorningkiss 6 күн бұрын
Having the car presented by a spokesman who says "vehicle" and "utilisation" isn't helping. It's all so clinical !
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter 6 күн бұрын
What it is, is complete twaddle! The guy goes on and on about how the car uses F1 aero to . . . what, exactly? Drive on public roads? Show up at a track day and be passed by Miatas? What is the demographic this car is aimed at? Seems obvious to me: super-rich jerkoffs who can’t shift stick but want to one-up their dorkless peers.
@rehankhalid2164
@rehankhalid2164 9 күн бұрын
Wow ... Such a beautiful masterpiece. McLaren never disappoints ❤️
@vindevhunta4905
@vindevhunta4905 13 күн бұрын
Looks waaaaaaaaay better than its Ferrari competitor however the P1 is a better looking car than this new McLaren Mission X for me…
@skramer6483
@skramer6483 13 күн бұрын
@@vindevhunta4905 the Ferrari is undoubtedly a great car but if were a wealthy super car/hyper car enthusiast I’d have e no interest in owning it as visually it leaves me cold. Not even as an investment proposition. I like the W1, reading and seeing the actual detail of the car, it’s clear to me it’s not just an upgraded 720S based. It’s to easy and lazy to dismiss it as such.
@kevinkim9620
@kevinkim9620 12 күн бұрын
P1 is probably my favorite car design in the hypercar era. so many details and everything just flows. loved watching frank stephenson's (chief designer of the car) video on how he and his team came up with it.
@PS91195
@PS91195 12 күн бұрын
Mission X is e-only boredom though Man this is a bad hypercar lineup too look up to - wish it was 2014 again…
@flyonbyya
@flyonbyya 12 күн бұрын
Incredible everything! Cars today are beyond anything we imagined even just a few years ago
@blueman5924
@blueman5924 12 күн бұрын
Imo. with the wing not deployed, this car is as beautiful as other hypercars. The PPF guys are going to be put to the test on it for sure. And the interior with the comfort wrapped upholstery is a winner. Thank goodness the uncomfortable exposed carbon seats are absent. Now for the track review. 👍
@The1MkII
@The1MkII 13 күн бұрын
McLaren working with Czinger for 3D printing is awesome, Czinger is the real deal with their innovative technology. Great to see them getting to work with the big brands so quickly! The W1 seems very interesting.
@urbanstrencan
@urbanstrencan 12 күн бұрын
The engineering behind W1 is just amazing, on another level, you can definitely see F1 influence, I really like the subtle looks ¨ it's not an AERO monster like the new Ferrari F80" Henry can't wait for you to drive it and give us your actual impressions on W1 performance, and driving :)
@sugarsaint
@sugarsaint 12 күн бұрын
Stop interrupting the man mid sentence Catchpole
@WoTjolly
@WoTjolly 8 күн бұрын
Doesn't shock at first glance? Are you kidding right? That's a MASTERPIECE and a BEAST of a car!
@david1rosenthal
@david1rosenthal 12 күн бұрын
1st minute: Explaining how this is a well rounded car Rest of video: Talking about how every design decision is completely in service of aerodynamics
@wernerengel4919
@wernerengel4919 10 күн бұрын
This is a beautiful car. Better styled than GMA cars. Have never been a fan of McLaren but this car is exciting.
@bluenavara25
@bluenavara25 13 күн бұрын
Excellent explanations and interactions on what would otherwise be very complicated subject matter
@kylekarsten721
@kylekarsten721 13 күн бұрын
35:03 is when they drive the car
@simonpeterdebbarma
@simonpeterdebbarma 13 күн бұрын
Nice I fell for that.
@filoniz
@filoniz 13 күн бұрын
Me too😅
@docmccoy9813
@docmccoy9813 12 күн бұрын
I stopped at the microscope
@Ch28Kid
@Ch28Kid 13 күн бұрын
I love the details in this video. Good job Henry and McLaren enginner.
@kosmos5420
@kosmos5420 12 күн бұрын
Great coverage. Detailed as it should be for a car like that.
@alexmaddox2255
@alexmaddox2255 12 күн бұрын
Watching this video was like reading an essay you never quite understand... but thats the McLaren philosophy. I really like the long tail spolier
@JBMountainSkills
@JBMountainSkills 13 күн бұрын
Yawn for a few reasons, sorry, not a video for me this one. Really enjoy most of Henry's stuff.
@evenfunnierguy
@evenfunnierguy 9 күн бұрын
The aesthetics become even more stunning once you realize HOW performance- and technology-driven every bit of the design actually is. Because it is not only highly technologically advanced and of mind-bending performance, but it is ALSO elegant and beautifully styled. Whereas for instance the Senna absolutely wasn't. I've learned to "accept" its looks by now, but it's not exactly ever going to be a beauty. This one, however... WOW. Well done McLaren, indeed. Fun fact about that air diverter on the roof: the F-16 has that, too! Well, it's kind of upside down, but it totally makes sense: this wants to stay down - F-16 wants to stay up. 😂
@jamesclancy503
@jamesclancy503 10 күн бұрын
I know it can be customized, but I just can’t get past how the black/carbon chops the design in half. The front end just looks incomplete
@kc510
@kc510 3 күн бұрын
Agreed, I’m sure they’d love to charge you 6 figures to have them painted body color.
@neilrobson3064
@neilrobson3064 13 күн бұрын
McLaren are on another level with their Road Cars right now - like a Lotus but turned up to 11. Enjoy this moment in their motoring history……
@damianoferro
@damianoferro 13 күн бұрын
This is more of an overweight and schizophrenic lotus. Nothing about this speaks of simplicity and pureness of the driving experience.
@neilrobson3064
@neilrobson3064 13 күн бұрын
@@damianoferroYou’ve driven one then?
@damianoferro
@damianoferro 13 күн бұрын
@@neilrobson3064 I've driven enough cars to know that more stuff ≠ more enjoyment, the exact opposite in fact. Everything that you add is a distraction if you speak about pure driving feel, and also performance is about what you feel not numbers on a sheet. Don't need to drive this to know I'd prefer a GMA T.50 over it
@neilrobson3064
@neilrobson3064 12 күн бұрын
@@damianoferro I thought as much….
@global_nomad.
@global_nomad. 13 күн бұрын
glad the owners will have somewhere to keep their drinks while they sit in their cars in the a/c storage garages....
@howarddavies136
@howarddavies136 13 күн бұрын
It sure is interesting seeing the different approaches between Ferrari, McLaren, Aston and Mercedes. Aston has gone full Group C style, Ferrari has gone back to the philosophy of its top tier being race car linked, just like F40 and F50 were, Mercedes just made something too fiddly and still in a vaguely conventional form factor. Mclaren feels like a series production McLaren but with a bit more porosity. And then theres GMA just doing something totally unique...
@RemoteViewr
@RemoteViewr 12 күн бұрын
GMA is making timelessly beautiful and technically excellent cars
@Adrian-r4w4f
@Adrian-r4w4f 9 күн бұрын
I know that clutch is light but 44lbs is a lot to hold for several minutes. Well done Henry!
@Gangreen167
@Gangreen167 13 күн бұрын
Is that just a display model? I dislike the looks of the F80 but at least we have seen it in motion!!!!
@ashleysutherland4118
@ashleysutherland4118 12 күн бұрын
Love A Henry Catchpole video 😊
@paulelverstone8677
@paulelverstone8677 12 күн бұрын
That is a very complicated looking design but take away from the details, I feel it really has a nice profile. And despite this fussiness, the aero explains beautifully why it should be. The attention to details is off the charts. Overall I really like the look of this car and hope McLaren adopt this new design language for future models. can't wait to see how it performs...
@ApxuBbI
@ApxuBbI 13 күн бұрын
Bag of Cheetos exploded inside.
@kcajkcalb
@kcajkcalb 13 күн бұрын
Perhaps they should choose someone more excited to explain the car? Chris Harrison looked like he just woke up.
@lloydbellis7360
@lloydbellis7360 10 күн бұрын
Great work Charley 😎😎😎👍👍👍
@jaspergray803
@jaspergray803 13 күн бұрын
This looks pretty dang cool!
@w.a.8829
@w.a.8829 13 күн бұрын
every single inch of this thing is designed for function first. 0-186 in 12.7 seconds is truly absurd. what an achievement.
@PeteAnda
@PeteAnda 8 күн бұрын
Our last skilled workers before the Germans or Chinese take over. I still morn for Lotus, at least I have one and helped the Norfolk jobs. Please don’t sell this company off, give some hope to us Brits. Great video and much respect.
@sikanderhumedkhan6037
@sikanderhumedkhan6037 12 күн бұрын
Apart from the headlight design, this is really a home run
@Ramsi-Berlin
@Ramsi-Berlin 12 күн бұрын
Dadurch das GMA den T50 rausgebracht hat, wird es für alle anderen Hersteller sehr schwer, mich zu begeistern ❕😅 Den Jesko von Koenigsegg find ich noch sehr interessant... und der Utopia ist auch schön ❣️👌🏼 Ansonsten reizt mich nichts sonderlich. Kein W1, F80, Elektro sowieso nicht... ich möchte einen V12 mit Handschaltung, den man auf jeder Straße fahren kann, mit etwas Kofferraum, damit man auch verreisen kann damit 😊 Somit ist auch ein Valkyrie für mich uninteressant ❕ Danke GMA 🙏🏼 das ihr einen Nachfolger vom McLaren F1 gebaut habt ❣️ Das ist wirklich "Driving Perfection" 👍🏼 Alle anderen find ich irgendwie langweilig... auch wenn sie schnell sind. Lieben Gruß aus Berlin, Ramsi 🙋🏻‍♂️
@HandsomeAlex25
@HandsomeAlex25 12 күн бұрын
Thought nothing of it when I first saw pictures, but after your deep dive, I think it's probably worth the exorbitant price tag.
@benbennit
@benbennit 11 күн бұрын
1996 Micra K11 1.3GX Under 50k miles = ULTRACAR Funnily enough you could buy 1500 of these ultimate machines for just one of these plastic W1's.
@utubeballbag
@utubeballbag 11 күн бұрын
Front 3/4 view is stunning
@AnilPrabha
@AnilPrabha 12 күн бұрын
Top notch content 👌
@Darx97
@Darx97 12 күн бұрын
when the P1 came out it really made you feel something even just watching videos about it, this one doesnt make me feel anything, its not as special viasually, ye it might be better but it doesnt look special, its not like ill buy one so my comment doesn’t have any value, but seeing that first video of the P1 driving at night on some track idk where spitting fire really gave you goose bumps
@tlrprice7
@tlrprice7 13 күн бұрын
2017 December the McLaren Senna was unveiled, and everyone was like ewww it's ugly too much function over form. Now the Senna is amazing and everyone loves it. When this is driven on track and Chris Haris says it's awesome, everyone will be "oh the W1 is amazing blah blah blah."
@BOOSTEDDUDE
@BOOSTEDDUDE 13 күн бұрын
Some awesome aero design went into this one! Personally P1 does sound more natural than W1. I didn't know you can trademark car names but I like the sound of U1! I'll be super excited to see this go up against the Ferrari F80!
@_que
@_que 13 күн бұрын
Wished McLaren made a road car with no turbos and a manual transmissions for the masses of their F1 fans ... Maybe a GMA T.43 with a 3 cylinder from BMW...
@derrickpierce4440
@derrickpierce4440 13 күн бұрын
It's been a little while since the W1 was released and I think it is growing on me. While I'm no longer a 12-year-old boy, its looks would get it done for me as much as any other McLaren. However, for the money I would save up a little more and get the Bugatti Tourbillion since I'm not a hard-core racer. It would be interesting to see how this batch of super-hyper cars fair against the McMurtry on a track day.
@plm8830
@plm8830 13 күн бұрын
mp412c was the one car that they ever got right design wise. It looked on the level of the 455 or 458 or 488. Then they took risks with curves and loops and ellipsis and they never recovered people are buying them because they are fast, but the quality of design and build is no longer on the level of mp412c.
@Sakratic
@Sakratic 12 күн бұрын
I would bet they will be at the front of the field, come the new 2026 regs with the usage of active aero front and back and the knowledge in general of shifting of aero balance with active wings introduced for the new regs. The ability to shed downforce level at will should go far in performance of any ground effect type vehicle and just having a stable aero platform into, during, and out of a corner while dealing with cross winds making flow condition and vortices creation to help with the sealing of the floor super important as well. The rest of Formula 1 teams should be put on notice as McLaren won't give up its aero lead any time soon.
@JustinMcFly1980
@JustinMcFly1980 12 күн бұрын
The design is growing on me but, I wish the front had a touch more aggression to match the rear. Front profile shape reminds me of a manta ray in the ocean. Would be cool if it had the P1 headlights or a evolved version of a P1 front and rear.
@curlsalot91
@curlsalot91 12 күн бұрын
''that should feel more lively than Deadpool on a night out'' Brilliant
@khackett7
@khackett7 13 күн бұрын
This Mclaren employee almost falls asleep multiple times in this video. Explains it all.
@martinthe3rd664
@martinthe3rd664 12 күн бұрын
30:22 I love how the seats come pre-puked
@tomasz899
@tomasz899 13 күн бұрын
Does it come with flatbed / towvtrack service subscription?
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 11 күн бұрын
This is what I hate about modern editing, especially with car videos, 2m15s before we actually see the car properly without gimmicks, shaky cam, or split second cuts. Enough of this.
@LegoSM737
@LegoSM737 13 күн бұрын
Suddenly makes you miss the P1…
@megadoomerr
@megadoomerr 13 күн бұрын
Decent looking. Reminds me me of the Spyker C8 Laviolette LM85.
@justinbroniszewski
@justinbroniszewski 12 күн бұрын
I like the W1, but I love the P1 and F1. This latest 1 car looks like a modified 765LT with an aftermarket body kit.
@TSMagnum82
@TSMagnum82 3 күн бұрын
At the start you tell the viewer this car has the wow factor. If a journalist has to tell you that, it doesn't.
@Hindude733
@Hindude733 12 күн бұрын
Rear wing being held up by the same mechanics used in the Pixar lamp.
@tk4217777
@tk4217777 13 күн бұрын
Guys, I think we’re watching an ad. 😅
@AcEzABoy
@AcEzABoy 9 күн бұрын
We keep talking about the trinity but why dont we make it a 5 way competition? Mercedes-AMG One and Aston Martin Valkyrie are both similar in concept and mission to the F80 and W1 so why arent they getting mentioned here as well?
@ellomirza
@ellomirza 13 күн бұрын
Oh wow, another super car. Wow look the styling, it’s like all the other ones. Wow it’s so powerful. Wow it’s so expensive. Wow wow wow. Hey McLaren can you make just a car. That would actually blow people away. I’d love to see this sort of effort directed at making a daily. How many more hyper mega super duper cars do we need?
@gabrielbarcellos1036
@gabrielbarcellos1036 13 күн бұрын
Não fiquei animado com o W1 e F80, a cada dia que passa perco a esperança na Porsche... tem carros mais lindos e emocionantes por aí
@SharpTurnStudios
@SharpTurnStudios 13 күн бұрын
Will be curious to see this vs the new C8 ZR1. Bit of a price difference, but very similar concepts.
@TheStorkSR
@TheStorkSR 13 күн бұрын
This feels like a very McLaren hypercar. An incredibly detailed, over-engineered, visually subtle but mechanically insane monster whose poster will grace the walls... of a bunch of engineering and mechanical science graduates, the poster itself being of everything underneath the body rather than the car itself. The same person that is excited to buy the W1 is the same mentally as the guys excited back in the day to buy a Volvo because of it's safety technology, just with a lot more money. I think McLaren will eventually get it right. When it comes to desirable cars we live in a post-performance era, where the experience and avatar that car imposes on the driver and the observer is the most important factor rather than outright performance. They'll just do it in the nerdiest way possible, and they wouldn't be McLaren if they didn't.
@hyphed4196
@hyphed4196 13 күн бұрын
Mark my words, in about five years people will end up loving this car after initially hating it.
@akilh340
@akilh340 13 күн бұрын
Indeed
@rodhalligan5136
@rodhalligan5136 13 күн бұрын
there is never enough time time to polish a turd
@phammanh2689
@phammanh2689 13 күн бұрын
@@rodhalligan5136 The W1 is a turd?
@yrnia
@yrnia 12 күн бұрын
don't understand the hate I think McLaren did a great job
@rodhalligan5136
@rodhalligan5136 11 күн бұрын
@@yrnia it is simple. the car is poorly designed. it is a mess. it does not work from any angle and it simply is not good enough to the the follow on to the p1.
@existentialselkath1264
@existentialselkath1264 13 күн бұрын
I don't get the hate for the design. Sure, cars from the 2000s were simpler and sleeker, just like cars from the 90s were boxer and simpler still. Nobody complained about the P1 not being as classic as the F1. I think this looks modern AND great.
@RA111333
@RA111333 11 күн бұрын
Henry and Chris Harris do this better than anyone, coupling their knowledge and natural curiosity which is quite a different look from some other “KZbinr”, Shmee, cough cough…
@jamiedriscoll9781
@jamiedriscoll9781 6 күн бұрын
34:30 i imagined people off camera clenching when he swung the microscope up over the hood.
@WilliamVG
@WilliamVG 11 күн бұрын
Can't wait till Brooks gets his hands on this car. Let's see some 1/4 times:)
@Sakratic
@Sakratic 12 күн бұрын
This is how McLaren F1 got ahead of Red Bull Racing with the unlimited hours of wind tunnel testing that doesn't count against the aero testing time!!!! Ground effects superiority? Vortices and managing of air flow and the energizing of the rear diffuser via the rear wing....just take a look at this vehicle's rear wing and the concepts their current F1 car utilizes and deploys in not only performance but the sheer amount of rear wings they have introduced this season, which btw is done all under the cost cap - also telling and hilarious when dude said we took what we learned from F1 to which I say, it's actually the other way around but they won't obviously be stupid enough to admit that!!!
@Becausefamilycar
@Becausefamilycar 12 күн бұрын
It’s amazing all the attention and hype, on a launch of car that was sold before they made one. That said I am watching and wasting my life
@Mr888rM
@Mr888rM 13 күн бұрын
I really think that should have a larger battery. 1.4kw is nothing, so youll get full power once, and then your 1200hp car will be 25% down from the last pull.
@andrewoneill144
@andrewoneill144 12 күн бұрын
High foot box. Cos everyone loves to feel upside down when they are driving
@l2positionuno268
@l2positionuno268 12 күн бұрын
Love the car! But it doesn’t quite scream I’m a $2m successor to the P1 and F1. Maybe $800k 765LT successor.
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