Half in the Bag: Terminator: Dark Fate: (FULL SPOILERS)

Mike and Jay talk about the 6th (3rd) film in the endlessly failing Terminator franchise.

[@sephiroth7655]

"Who played mr plinkett in the prequel reviews? " "that was mike stoklasa" "And in HitB " "Rich evans " "But that's a different guy"

[@CosmicDogoran]

"That's because Mike got too old and bloated to play Mr. Plinkett again."

[@trenchardjj]

Surely he wasn't old or bloated enough.

[@Udgrasil13]

"BATMAN ?!?"

[@fv2977]

They use different actors to represent that Mr Plinkett's a 21st Century Schizoid Man.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

ja, solides gold hier.

[@michaelburke7978]

No one's ever really terminated...

[@sp1011]

Sh*t this got me LOL!

[@dragunov815]

Good one.

[@rainbowthrustars]

They are tryinators.

[@sujimayne]

Maybe the real John Connor are the Terminators we made along the way!

[@errorcringyname4044]

T1 fast food employee

[@danielj8292]

If you don’t kill a terminator in the first 5 minutes it starts a business and family .

[@alexxxzero5792]

Omg this made chuckle 😹

[@zetetick395]

Hahaha! So *that* explains Steve Jobs! 🤣

[@allobenallajeteprie4905]

Lmao 😂

[@evandov]

Damn you Capitalist Patriarchy 😁

[@superrugby2]

Hahaha

[@pyingst]

“In ‘The last Plinkett review’ it was Mike Stoklasa playing Mr. Plinkett” “But that’s a different guy!”

[@jadedemotions9891]

Mike Stoklasa is the only Mr Plinkett to me

[@tehFozzeY]

Rich Evans is the original Plinkett though.

[@TemmiePlays]

@@tehFozzeY I mean, no? Back when RLM cared abotu social media presence, they did a interview about Half in the Bag, stating Rich is Plinkett B. MIke is PLinkett A.

[@Aeon2Flux]

What have all of you put in YOUR crystal head's?

[@FungusTrooper]

Mike got too old and bloated so they had to re-cast him.

[@BurntL]

I was absolutely prepared for that phone call to last the entire forty minute episode.

[@mercenum5186]

I would have been okay with it. I was laughing more and more the longer it went on

[@bobbobson110]

It's like a sequel to the scientist man explains Terminator video.

[@marcuswalters8093]

BurntL I was pretty much sure too.

[@hermannabt8361]

I'm disappointed that it didn't.

[@carlvandopamine4769]

Only 3 minutes in and this phone call has already earned this a 👍

[@samboujaiteh3331]

Terminator: Salvation threw out Terminator 3, and Terminator: Genysys threw out Terminators 3 & 4, and Terminator: Dark Fate threw out all of them. So the series is effectively two movies and four fanfictions.

[@zenoblues7787]

Actually it is implied Terminator 3 is canon to Terminator Salvation although it's never outright stated whether it is or isn't.

[@fnordiumendures138]

Thing is, Dark Fate also kind of threw out T2. John Connor didn't survive anyway, the sacrifice of Arnold-bot and Dyson didn't matter, the apocalypse wasn't stopped. T2 might as well not have happened as none of it was important.

[@bhind45]

@Zeno Blues Katherine Brewster is in it and Judgement Day takes place on 2004 instead of the original 1997 date. T3 definitely is canon to Salvation.

[@shahidmirza1138]

@@fnordiumendures138 wrong. They did prevent the the judgment day. Skynet was replaced by Legion. In the end it doesn't mater because we human will always create AI. Declare AI unethical and prevent human from creating it then we might have peace.

[@BeeTeeGee]

There's a few things in Salvation that directly connect it to T3. The character of Kate Brewster is still around and is now John's wife (like the T-850 revealed in T3), the new Judgement Day happens in 2004 and T-1 units (with a redesign) show up. Salvation's intention was to start up a new trilogy, but at the same time it still followed on from T3's plot.

[@SirGeeeO]

"Terminator 6: Terminator 3 Part 4"

[@MicahRibbentrop]

A valve film

[@mattc2306]

Wait, I thought Russian Terminator was Terminator 3. But I won't know that until someone fixes my VCR...

[@DA0K]

IN SPACE

[@IvyCrack]

:Judgement Day Chronicles, Episode 2:

[@zetetick395]

Lol Terminator 8: Unterminated

[@conspiracyman8353]

It was good that Terminator: Dark Fate pretended the last 3 movies didn't exist. I only wish it had pretended that Terminator: Dark Fate didn't exist.

[@braddockakalatis2]

I pretended it didn't exist.

[@octpod3923]

You can, I didn't even go see it.

[@braddockakalatis2]

@@DemetriusAniketos Give me some of what you have!

[@reizak8966]

Why am I reading this in mr. Plinkett voice?

[@xenocyde8498]

honestly I preferred terminator 3 and salvation after that they have been shit dark fate to me was even worse

[@radmega7938]

Listen and understand that Hollywood is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until this series is dead.

[@drumyogi9281]

@@deaddropsd1972 boycott or pass? The later sounds easier as I don't have to do anything.

[@radmega7938]

Tire fire of a Springfield magnitude. But... If u think about it.. It is progressive.

[@neamraven]

How do you best destroy something? Think about it in human terms. You don't want to kill someone you hate. You want to torture them while keeping them alive, hopefully forever. It's essentially hell--eternal torture. So the best way to kill a series is not to stop producing it, but to keep making bad iterations of it again and again and again and again. That's why I always say it's best to let a series rest in peace than keep it 'alive' just to torture its mangled meat sack of a body. Nobody agrees with me.

[@reservoirfrogs2177]

@Boba Fett its been dead since Terminator 3 what do you mean

[@PSWX-do4wj]

Rad Mega good one 😃

[@JasonFiske]

Hollywood is now SkyNet. They send movies back in time to correct the plot points of the past.

[@WhyteLis21]

More like pointless plot of the past. What was the whole point of making the terminator movie in the first place only to kill it off? 😁

[@slagit]

But unlike SkyNet they are succeeding in killing everything off!

[@erichulett5597]

That was perfect

[@JJvideoman]

But in the end, the only make it worse. *Mickey mouse laughs like Palpatine*

[@chesterfumblenutts6935]

Plot-inator

[@alanpennie8013]

Terminator: Eden Skynet sends a terminator to kill Adam and Eve and stop the whole mess from starting. But The Serpent assembles a kickass bunch of animals to fight back. Possible cartoon film for children there I think.

[@theindiediary5950]

And somehow they all end up in a factory-type place for the final showdown....

[@IrisCorven]

Terminator vs. Robocop? Fuck that, we want Terminator vs. Satan.

[@stefanpoirier6810]

And that there would be the reason why humans and Terminators were sent back through time naked.

[@hacooray525]

since no one has a gun at that point, you will watch montage of human and monkey throwing rocks at robot

[@hellacoorinna9995]

I'm sure Crowly gets a tardis from somewhere and Azaraphael is all bothered by it all, bitching about the mess.

[@robertgevere113]

"Dark movie theater. Movie starts and I start to see things that I recognize except that's a different guy." - Harry S Plinkett

[@Jon-ey4el]

Linda Hamilton saying "I'll be back" has "Part time" energy.

[@drewg4261]

Jon thinking the same thing

[@TemmiePlays]

en gage

[@Scrubasteveable]

Man, that is the worst line.

[@jgmiller804]

Keep getting that feeling more and more lately.

[@Dankalank]

Literally the first thing I thought when I heard it

[@W96H2]

Terminator in 1984 : - "It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." Terminator now : - "I need to help Alicia with the groceries."

[@hasan_z]

That's embarrassing and fuck, how does Alicia and her kid not realise this thing doesn't eat, shit, sleep, breath, laugh, cry etcetc

[@ghostman76015]

I hate when movies try to humanize robots, its a machine!

[@ghostman76015]

@@jeremytitus9519 good point! its like we will be so lonely and isolated in our own selfish worlds we will impose human traits on them to make up for the real friends we dont have.

[@Leniofonte]

@@ghostman76015 Blade runner 2048 had "joy", an AI that did just that. Great movie to watch, too

[@nipzie]

@@Leniofonte 2049 but I agree. Probably my favourite movie. Absolutely stunning cinematography. Unfortunately some people can't sit and enjoy that so it's too slow and boring for them.

[@matthewkemmer7943]

Mike's laugh through "Jurassic World: Jurassic World Park" is adorable

[@JeanMarceaux]

The extra on patreon is a riot, the gang corpses throughout the entire phone call. This is, apparently, the best take RLM could keep.

[@doctorroboto5018]

T2's effects still holds up amazing for being from 1991.

[@gelraldoldo5152]

Idk I hear T12 is gonna be pretty cool.

[@zetetick395]

Yeah man, and it _thematically_ fits too; the T1000 being all computer-y himself, so it's ok if it looks slightly strange and unnatural (unlike, say, the whole de-aged actor weirdness of the later movie products)

[@akulahirpada1993]

@Navarro Dodge I watched T1 and T2 last month, and i'll say that T2's effects still holds up well. T1 though, a lot of the effects just didn't hold up. Two examples are in this video even. But like you said, both are still great films.

[@Acueil]

The same reason analog films can still be viewed in 4k. They use practical effects that do not rely on CGI that got outdated really fast.

[@Kapojos]

@@akulahirpada1993 still the first terminator is the best movie

[@TerrenceNowicki]

Linda Hamilton says "I'll be back" like Harrison Ford says "part-time."

[@armr6937]

@@Dimchek970 You do realize we're all here because of that, right?

[@tonypepperoni3679]

It's immediately what popped into my head when I heard it.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

@@armr6937 A surprising number of people here haven't actually watched any of the Plinkett Reviews that didn't have *"Star Wars"* in the titles.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

@@hashvendetta7226 Lucas is a smart guy, and has a lot of great ideas. The problem is that he also has a lot of really terrible ideas, and his newer movies didn't have anybody else on the crew who could talk him out of the bad ideas.

[@andrewtaylor940]

@@alcovitch I think Lucas did the editing. That's always been his "thing" the part he loves.

[@robbywilliamson4152]

As far as I’m concerned, Terminator 2 was the end.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Was t3 really that bad?

[@crab7405]

@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Robert Patrick was just that good!

[@rotj4587]

@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 I think T3 was when I finally lost faith in sequels

[@rotj4587]

I enjoyed Termi:Salve but I have to agree - T1 & 2 are the franchise, anything else is dust. Shame too, those future scenes made me really want to see a realised "Future War" series or film.

[@Kekkersboy]

Something funny is that T2 actually did leave stuff open for the story to continue. They thought they destroyed all of the terminator stuff. But Remember They forgot to destroy the Arm that Arnold's terminator left behind.

[@MatthewMortensen1]

I wish I lived in a world where a great movie didn't always have to morph in to a horrible franchise.

[@zetetick395]

A precious few still exist out there, like rare, twinkling jewels among all the mush-piles of whored-out cinders (Someone should compile a list of 'em......Just don't show it to any hack producers....) @_@

[@Vaporvice84]

At this point, I think Rocky and the Dirty Harry franchises are the only ones that hold up.

[@hayberdasher8625]

So far A Clockwork Orange doesn't have a sequel. Crap I probably should not have said that 😟

[@ahall9839]

into*

[@MatthewMortensen1]

@@ahall9839 whatever

[@waccle8335]

This movie was JUST 9 months ago? Felt like three years have passed already

[@NoLegacyLeft]

Still haven't seen it. Maybe on netflix maybe... Still haven't watch'd the Ghostbusters Reboot.

[@lilpilatesvevo4493]

@@NoLegacyLeft well you're not missing much. . .

[@RoverIAC]

I usually don't mind not-so-good lame films but this film actually felt like an insult.

[@RoverIAC]

@@martymcfly88mph35 Well, It's not like they had a choice, otherwise there going to jail for child trafficking.

[@mrblank-zh1xy]

Impossibru

[@Veed.l0]

When the VCR repair plot is more nostalgic than The Terminator franchise.

[@vietnamd0820]

Zach Lloyd Terminator: Rise of the VCR

[@karlnord1429]

holy shit

[@goufr3540]

@@vietnamd0820 Terminator: Dark BetaMax

[@yehoshuasmith5608]

I miss the gay wedding arc :(

[@junkbucket50]

Very fitting comment

[@georger64]

“Forget all the other Terminator movies you‘ve watched.“ “Ok.“ “This new Terminator movie...“ “What‘s a Terminator?“

[@lokiunchained9468]

Mitch Hedberg?

[@luckyspurs]

Amazed Hollywood never tried to make Titanic 2.

[@blakethompson-dodd9874]

@@luckyspurs Titanic 2: Twiceberg

[@lordkrauser]

*cue all the Spongebobs running around trying to find the bits about Terminator after burning everything about it*

[@vonVile]

@@luckyspurs They did in the 80s. It's called Raise The Titanic.

[@leonardodominguezlobos2769]

I thought the mexican terminator (rev 9) was the lovechild of Arnold and the Maid.

[@robertfitzgerald3118]

Someone else has declared him the T-Juan thousand...

[@zetetick395]

@@robertfitzgerald3118 Lol His catchphrase can be "See you later......Baby!"

[@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677]

Oh boy

[@DoctorTillinghast]

@@robertfitzgerald3118 I wish I could like your comment T-1000 times

[@paulmajano]

Hahaha noticed how he only killed ICE agents🤣

[@jeffbollen5276]

One million points for Jurassic World: Jurassic World Park.

[@FourOf92000]

Jurassic World Park: Park Jurassic Park World Jurassic Jurassic Part II 2: Fallen Jurassic Kingdom World Park Kingdom: Fallen 2

[@stefanpoirier6810]

Jurassic World: Park Fate

[@georgedudleysashtray3860]

Jurassic World: The World is Yours

[@stefanpoirier6810]

@@georgedudleysashtray3860 Nah that would the long-awaited sequel to "Scarface" that completely ignores the video game sequel's storyline.

[@monsieurcondottiero2685]

Jurassic World 3: Rise of Jurassic Park 2 part 2

[@jackevans6200]

The opening skit is the reason why I've stopped caring about the Terminator franchise

[@vietnamd0820]

Jack Evans Same here! Hey Jack are you Rich Evans’ brother?

[@bakashinji]

Fucking T1 doesn't make sense, Kyle Reese gets sent back in time to protect Sarah Connor cuz she's gonna have a kid that will be the leader of the resistance but the kid is only conceived because of Reese and her hooking up so how the hell does Reese get sent back in time if he dies and is John Connors dad at the same time????? Loved the movie still but wtf

[@thoso1973]

@@bakashinji T1 is a fixed timeline, a closed loop. It was written that way. T2 isn't.

[@DavidEvans1983]

Same here. Would have been okay to see a continuation after Terminator Salvation, but now... Meh.

[@KneelB4Bacon]

I was hoping to see more of Spock in this movie.

[@artkub5396]

At this point VCR Repair Shop's storyline is more coherent and competent than Terminator franchise.

[@patricklehigh9019]

Omg you are soooooo right.

[@latue87]

I'm surprised they didn't come up with a bit in this episode where they met versions of themselves that time-traveled after seeing Dark Fate.

[@reservoirfrogs2177]

@@latue87 they've already done that haha

[@zetetick395]

"What? There's a new Terminator movie out, right now??" = Nice night for a wank

[@AndyQuinton]

Rich's delivery of "I'm trying to follow along" never fails to put me in to stiches of laughter.

[@johnt.campbell316]

He says it genuinely like a sad old man who doesn't want to piss anyone off. If Rich cared, he could be a "real actor." Where's Rich Evans SAG card, goddammit?!?

[@rwicerino]

@@johnt.campbell316 BUT THATS A DIFFERENT GUY!

[@zetetick395]

The actor History / plotline / character backstories to the Terminator franchise: Finally, Plinket's dementia is entirely appropriate, maybe _he's beating this terrible affliction!_ \😂/

[@luiginastro8831]

@@johnt.campbell316 How dare you? He *is* a real actor!

[@necromech_]

"batman?"

[@Spicypuff]

FFS, why can't they focus on giving John connor development so we can eventually get to the John connor that saves humanity. The character always gets sidelined.

[@Eidlones]

Personally I find the whole war in the future to be the least interesting thing about the franchise. It's just a catalyst for the time traveling robotic assassin

[@cmckittrick91]

Wasnt that 3?

[@petewillson205]

T2, was john puberty, T3 was john in his 20s, T4 was john in his 40s as a resistants fighter. 3 different actors, but 3 movies were mostly about him

[@RamixTheRed]

Bruce Wayne Connor deserved better

[@akulahirpada1993]

Because they need Arnold in them

[@mrdog4529]

Kyle Rees (talking to the franchise) "Hollywood can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse... And it absolutely will not stop, until you are dead."

[@zacc]

Hell, they won’t even stop AFTER you’re dead. See: Carrie Fisher’s deepfaked corpse being portrayed STILL in Star Wars

[@katarishigusimokirochepona6611]

Lol

[@nogravitas7585]

"Hollywood can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse... And it absolutely will not stop, even after you are dead."

[@drew9351]

This comment would be funnier if you didnt have to explain it was kyle reese talking to Hollywood

[@silverhawkroman]

You mean Disney. Hollywood is way much worse

[@peckmyeyesout1437]

"Terminator: Deep Fake" I love you Mike

[@samuelshafik2778]

9:30 for those who didn't catch it. love it

[@tapedelay]

Super sharp line that flies right by.

[@emceeunderdogrising]

So good.

[@BLINDTUBEMARES]

If I had an infestation of mice I'd create a robot cat with a titanium exoskeleton and then create a time machine and send it back to the 80s (in my house) to kill the first breeding pair of mice just after it was built. That's common sense

[@yeahey5947]

You don’t understand, skynet is much too bloated and over swelling with resources to actually be effective and get anything done, sorta like modern day America

[@GigaEnigma]

The opening skit is one of the best HitB openings ever. The Terminator franchise really gives Star Wars a run for it's money in being more creatively bankrupt

[@Howlrunner82]

THATS IT. Terminator needs a Deathstar, and Star Wars needs time travelling Terminators. You just saved both franchises...for another 6 movies

[@GigaEnigma]

​@Howlrunner82 hear me out, you know how terminators have those cool red eyes? Imagine if each one had planet destroying lasers in them.

[@DoctorSquires]

I don't actually watch new movies anymore. I just watch these guys talk about them.

[@HarshNerf]

watch the movies they recommend and then come back and finish the review after

[@harrisonjohn4301]

Yeah same. Movies seem to be milking franchises and/or focusing on visuals versus a good story nowadays.

[@protheu5]

And you shouldn't. There are special people like RLM who watch movies professionally.

[@peteraustin9057]

because unlike these movies, RLM are free and entertaining

[@Zazekina]

Same

[@SsnakeBite]

"So Terminator 6 is the sequel to Terminator 2?" Don't you love how genuine Hollywood releases are now following bootleg logic?

[@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723]

Can’t beat em, join em

[@peteynutt4104]

Bootleg? Well China practically owns Hollywood now. Hmmm?

[@14debanjan]

May I know what bootleg logic means?

[@kosemekars]

This is what broke Plinkett's brain. Origin story right here.

[@sergf3624]

this and 1 other movie literally followed this blueprint what other releases are following this logic? you inbred

[@TheHeartlessFour]

Mike almost laughed when he said "Edward Furlong was too old and bloated"

[@zetetick395]

Thankfully that didn't happen - No one wants the man to hurt himself

[@stephenwhite258]

It's insane how much better the original laundry day scene looks and sounds compared to the new one in a side by side

[@Shadowmech88]

New Terminator Movie: Skynet decides to try quantity over quality. It sends hundreds of terminators back in time all at once, in an attempt to inconvenience John Connor so heavily in his day to day life that it drives him to suicide. John Connor's late for work because his alarm clock was a terminator and it went off late. Terminators infiltrate John's workplace and have an office party that they don't invite him to. John has intimacy issues because every woman he dates turns out to be a terminator. Terminators replaced all the cereal in John's house with plain unflavored cereal. Terminators keep resetting John's router so that his neighbors can steal his wifi. John refuses to get therapy because the last time he tried it the therapist turned out to be a terminator who was also pretty bad at being a therapist.

[@ripperzbyszko3322]

Shadowmech88 ... I think you just described my life 😂😂 🤯

[@stupaterson4830]

Not going to lie.... I would watch this movie...

[@nunyabaznus7851]

this is a bit too real. every woman i dated also turned out to be a terminator. they "terminated" the relationship when things got too serious.

[@HippopotamusPencil]

This is a comedy routine waiting to happen.

[@TimThomason]

All Terminators are, of course, played by Arnold Schwarzenegger with a generous use of CGI.

[@JamesMcCormickIV]

I was really hoping the opening gag was going to be all 40 minutes.

[@martionman231]

it sure fuckin feels like it lmao

[@DevineInnovations]

I just keep wanting to hear "But that's a different guy!" over and over

[@CD-ek3iq]

Ohhhh myyy GAWD!!!!!

[@KarbineKyle]

The video would still be playing to this day! And that's if they talked only about _Terminator: Genisys!_

[@josiahbahuaud2294]

Batman? lmao

[@benprewitt4600]

What I love is that the only actor that doesn't get burned here is Michael Biehn. BECAUSE MICHAEL BIEHN IS FUCKING AWESOME.

[@blacksabbath4252]

The best terminator character imo

[@sourpatchkid394]

“Terminator” and “Terminator 2” is all there is for me.

[@JohnnyZenith]

@Thulsa Doom There is only T1 and T2. Stop making stuff up.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

Well, gooood for you, goooood for you

[@Oxossis]

The title of this movie should have been Terminator: Beyond Salvation

[@nickbode5211]

Joe Dirt Can’t wait time see Terminator 7: The Search For More Money

[@Sacrilege83]

Terminator 7: Bit Mining

[@warpzone8421]

I liked Mike's title the best-- Terminator: Deep Fake. Cuz that's how they get all the actors these days!

[@bigpun7916]

TERMINATOR WOKE FATE .

[@jinvid]

Brilliant !

[@sarahofastora9089]

In fifteen years: -"So Mike, what did you think of Jack and Jill 2?" -"B minus"

[@25thDaveWalker]

Jack & Jill: DARK FATE

[@sarahofastora9089]

@@25thDaveWalker Jack and Jill 2: Jack harder

[@sarahofastora9089]

@Man on phone If you want a vision of the future, imagine сomputerised old man Pacino's boot stamping on a human face to a Dunkin Donuts jingle - forever.

[@sarahofastora9089]

@Man on phone And Mike could star as Castle Greyskull

[@RaSkipper]

Jack & Jill 2: Jacked Up

[@IrisCorven]

I'd heard that Ed Furlong was super bummed because he apparently spent months getting into shape so he wasn't Bloat Connor after they "cast him", only to find out they were just using his likeness/voice for a death scene.

[@zetetick395]

From John Connor to John Doe :/

[@IvanKisaragi]

Damn, that blows lmao.

[@AesirUnlimited]

Well, at least he got into shape. That’s never a bad thing I suppose.

[@Ken-fh4jc]

Did they change their mind? Why would they tell the guy that?

[@xsteveconwayx]

You can’t make a sequel a perfect film with a perfect ending about preventing a future from happening. Terminator 2 is the perfect sequel.

[@ImAllinDark]

“I’ll be back” “Part-time.”

[@freakadelic7495]

As in the half-drunkenly uttered lines from Sarah Connor in Dark Fate and Indiana Jones in Indy 4, respectively. You sly dog, you

[@nicholashurst7739]

The radio advert has been using the I'll be back line all week when ige been at work. This is exactly what has been reminding me of. Thank you for also thinking this

[@geddyflea6645]

Why did they use that take?

[@vietnamd0820]

Freakadelic I’m halfway thru the review...do they compare both scenes? Cuz as soon as I saw Sarah Connor say that in the trailer I thought of Indy in Crystal Skull

[@freakadelic7495]

@@vietnamd0820 They didn't do that in this review, no

[@gabrielorsi3599]

Growing up with terminator? Terminatorhood Recorded over 35 years.

[@edmundscycles1]

Only if it's done as mockumentary style

[@FunkBastid]

IT BROKE NEW GROUND

[@shenotski]

It took 35 years to make!

[@Ripcookiethief]

Just follow Arnold Schwarzenegger for the last 35 years. Way better and more interesting movie.

[@edmundscycles1]

@@FunkBastid do you think louise theroux would be up for it ?

[@matthewkemmer7943]

I could listen to Rich Evans say "but that's a different guy" all day

[@bebbibabey1246]

Went to see this movie in 4D but the cinema fucked up and played it on a normal screen so I was sat watching a 2D movie with water occasionally being sprayed into my face

[@alphatrion4365]

So they tricked you into paying money to watch a good film in 4D and all you got was 2D trash with water squirts. Might as well go pay money to run into a wall over and over. Would have been more rewarding.

[@Ammoniumbicarbonat]

That’s what you get for going to see a 4D movie

[@Mviews-hb4ib]

Lmao

[@IvanKisaragi]

Holy fuck, that's amazing 😂. That's an entire mood honestly.

[@azzy2001]

Did it smell like tacos?

[@MikeAsbestos]

Make John Connor invent the Terminators because he's trying to rebuild his friend, the Terminator who saved him. I'll take my writing credit and royalties please

[@Commander_Shepard.]

John Connor invents sex bots, but accidentally makes Skynet.

[@kollarpg]

@@Commander_Shepard. It screws the whole humanity so it's the best sex bot ever.

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

It was necessary to destroy the world in order to save it?

[@ITSRICHTIME]

Custard Ganet bruh lmaoo

[@vishnualcyone9170]

Which he then accidently creates new A.i. that takes over. I like where this is going!!!!

[@freakadelic7495]

"These movies are like taco bell, there's 5 ingredients and they just put 'em in different order." Very succinct Mike observation, as ever

[@ChristopherBushman]

Problem is... I love Taco Bell...

[@crasheffort]

@@ChristopherBushman The Terminator movies are like if taco bell used time travel to keep sending the same meal you ate yesterday, but each day substituted one of the ingredients with a different bodily fluid until it becomes an unrecognizable mess of shit.

[@cts006]

In the future all movies are Taco Bell.

[@oMaJoJ]

@@cts006 No, they're Pizza Hut

[@HyenaDandy]

I mean as far as Jamie Lee Curtis being a survivalist, I just always interpreted that as her, you know, having had PTSD and not necessarily being RIGHT.

[@perunplague9794]

The fact that they pointed out how dumb it is that the advanced AI of the future never think to just send a nuke or bio weapon back in time instead of killer robots that continuously fail the task... …I think even if it is completely rebooted at this point I can never conceptually take this series seriously again.

[@NicholasAdeptus]

Humans have to create Skynet, then it becomes sentient. If you just nuke the humans, no Skynet.

[@famalam943]

I thought about that and I think it needs humans to exist. If it just wiped out all humans it would never be built or come online

[@thecaptain1708]

How about calling it a "de-boot" when they make a movie that ignores previous installment

[@Horatio787]

Rich Evans actually called DOOM 2016 a de-boot in the PreRec episode on it, so he might actually be the first.

[@Horatio787]

@@MarsofAritia No, a reboot is still within canon but is a remake in all other ways. Force Awakens is a reboot of A New Hope because it has the same structure and elements, but still has returning characters. A de-boot is when say Terminator 4 is a sequel to Terminator 2 and it canonically ignores 3. I'd say I prefer Rich Evans's definition though, which is when they try to remake a franchise (Doom 3, DmC Devil May Cry) and then that fails so they ignore it and just continue with the previous canon (DOOM 2016, Devil May Cry 5).

[@tsrav5]

@@Horatio787 You're mistaking reboot with "soft reboot". The Dark Knight movies were a reboot because it discards all the previous Batman films. Terminator Dark Fate may be shit, but it still maintains canon, thus qualifies as a sequel, just tries to fulfill the same functions as a reboot and remake... (So it's a REquel!) Well actually, people already have a word for that. It's called a "retread".

[@FredCracklin]

I'd prefer to call it "This shit again?"

[@kennethbryant5819]

The funny thing is like Halloween they do and they don't. They say none of the past matters but then they do a bunch of the same shit that happened in T3 and Salvation anyway.

[@ArkhanNightman]

In Terminator 1 it makes sense that they just send one robot back in time, because we are told that Skynet had basically lost and it was a last ditch effort.

[@ciarancrombie3045]

Buuuut thanks to the nonsense of time travel how do we know that the terminators from T2 and onwards weren’t sent before T1. Sky net could have been like fuck we keep failing what have we got left? A T800?? Yeah yeah send it back further than all the others!!

[@Arbiter099]

@@ciarancrombie3045 and why doesn't it go further back whenever it fails? Can't kill John's mom before he's born? Kill her grandpa and so on, send a new terminator immediatly after she crushes the first one

[@ciarancrombie3045]

Arbiter099 send a terminator back to when the Connor family first settled in America, Terminator vs cowboys!! Like that episode of Doctor Who

[@mmmuck]

They could explain that traveling further back in time requires more energy, which limits them to 1984 as the furthest travel point.

[@sterlinga8307]

@@Arbiter099 The basic idea which Genesis ignores is that sending a terminator back further than the one you already sent is not possible as the second one you send back changes the future meaning the exact time when you already sent one back no longer exists, creating a big paradox.

[@pathfinderLXXIV]

"What's her name?" "Dora the Explorinator" Terminator: Carl's Angels

[@fofalooza]

"The one in which Mike and Mr. Plinkett try to make sense of a world in which there has been almost as many Terminator movies as there has been Police Academy movies."

[@job2k6]

I'm just going to listen to this rather than go see the movie.

[@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden]

Good choice. Mike and Jay made a bigger effort coming up with explanations for the movie to work than the filmmakers did making the movie.

[@mrjohnnyk]

Same, I have zero interest in watching this and I think T2 is probably the all time best action movie

[@_wat_]

I see it thanks to the High Seas (i'd never pay money for this) and RLM are _really_ digging to find anything nice to say about it, to the point it somewhat seems like they're scared to say anything too negative because of backlash from a certain group of people... Probably why they pretty much gloss over the blatant politics/ideology that's infected it. As a Terminator film it's absolute #@#! and a disgrace. As a standalone action film it's 5/10.

[@ojmj1984]

Same.

[@SrSacaninha]

Same here. Thinking about it, I haven't watched any terminator besides 1 and 2. That story is told, let it rest.

[@Denethorable]

It's a choose your own ending trilogy.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

I choose T2!

[@ottoandersson2216]

I choose 3 and salvation sans Helen Carter

[@tycho_m]

please no not Mass Effect 3 again

[@bradenhogan2]

otto andersson I still have the most respect for Salvation. It came closest from escaping the “future robots try to kill someone who will be important in the future” plot which is literally every Terminator plot ever. But at least they put somewhat of an interesting twist on it by having it take place in the future, and this time Kyle Reese is the figure which must be protected so that he can be sent back to the past. Plus, I give that movie’s team and not Dark Fate’s credit for creating a human who is turned into a half-Terminator, which is a cool idea that I think is fleshed out a little better in Dark Fate. I know conventional Hollywood wisdom is to steer clear of anthology-type series’, but I think the Terminator franchise’s best chance of success is to do more stand alone movies in the Terminator world but that don’t have much of anything to do with time travel and don’t touch anything the original two movies did. We haven’t seen really that much of the future war, so why don’t they tell some stories there? Or maybe instead of just trying to assassinate one person from the resistance at a time, they have a whole hit list of key humans that the humans have to try to save. (Again, something brushed over but not really done in Salvation.)

[@ottoandersson2216]

@@bradenhogan2 I agree with having respect for salvation. I think it's 75 percent a really good movie. Despite being pg 13, I found it more frightening and atmospheric than dark fate. I just think the politics of the future wasn't done well (not that it can't be). I also think Helen Carter Burton is an awful actress mostly (and especially in this film). I loved the the idea of a cyborg. I guess Tim pool did too because he stole the idea and it was actually okay. Salvation sis it better tho

[@LilBuerck]

Something else I think makes Dark Fate Sarah Conner awful is that they just completely change her character? In T2 she's not a badass because she can take on Terminators, she's a badass because she knows she can't beat them but tries to face them down anyway to protect her son. A normal person being able to confidently try to fight terminators just removes any of the terror of a murderous soulless death machine always trying to kill you.

[@army103]

This has to be my favorite Half In The Bag opening sketch ever!

[@luckyspurs]

"they've made another Terminator movie" Christian Bale; "oh great, good for you".

[@jake51479]

You and me, we’re done professionally!

[@MJConroy1988]

Ah-da-da-dah!

[@user-73a]

*reference* xD!1one

[@AlxFM91]

And how was it?

[@wheeliebin18]

Epic reference.

[@johnsonjohnson3261]

Terminator: Deep Fake was the best parody title I've ever heard.

[@freakadelic7495]

Deep fake is what they should've done with Edward Furlong's and Linda Hamilton's faces in that beginning scene instead of the more expensive digital de-aging. At least that would've saved them more money to put into the other lackluster effects in this otherwise dead-on-arrival movie. 😒

[@johnsonjohnson3261]

@@freakadelic7495 I dunno, based on Mike and Jay's review I kinda wanna see it.... with a couple beers.

[@vietnamd0820]

Johnson Johnson Jay said don’t see it...I would say if you’re gonna watch it, then don’t pay for it...it’ll lessen the blow of it being so boring

[@johnsonjohnson3261]

@@vietnamd0820 Mike enjoyed it to some extent, and there are often times that I find myself in a more "Mike frame of mind." If I wanna get drunk and watch a dumb movie about robots and time travel then I will. I've paid money for worse experiences than that... much worse.

[@moviemaster8510]

No Love Deep Fake

[@ElectricIguana]

How is it that I'm seemingly the only person in the world who has a problem with the submersible, water tight Hummer?

[@Britishwolf89]

Yeah that scene and the airplane had me rolling my eyes. Felt more like Genesys in those moments.

[@charlottecorday8494]

Dennis Reynolds also approves of it.

[@lizp5004]

*DECORATOR* *_Dark Drapes_* _"I'll hang that."_

[@luiginastro8831]

Best comment, you win.

[@bkk397]

I’d buy that for a dollar

[@lacolem1]

Every time I watch a Mr. Plinkett review video: "That's Mr. Plinkett? But that's a different GUY!!!!"

[@turtleanton6539]

😂😂

[@jamstonjulian6947]

The Mr. Plinkett timeline is a mess at this point

[@hararigottlieb6638]

I want to go back one minute in the past so that I could read this comment again for the first time and laugh like a madman again.

[@collecticus]

This is the original Plinkett.

[@someguy-qk5cx]

@D Ceased Rich was the original Plinkett. He played Plinkett in short films released before the Plinkett reviews. Then Mike took the character of Plinkett for the reviews. Then Rich took up the mantle of Plinkett again in Half in the Bag.

[@movieyeeter9172]

at this point they should just pull an aliens and make a movie with hoards of Terminators, a weird little sewer girl, and a queen Terminator.

[@nagkenyan722]

lmfao

[@daiselol]

yeet

[@michaelmegson2778]

I mean genesis kinda did that, movie opened with the resistance fighting a fuck load of terminators, Emilia Clarke was in the sewers for a while and Matt Smith played the terminator queen.

[@ShoRyuBarbie]

Bring back the lady who played the Borg queen in Star Trek First Contact!

[@banjotoothlessbill]

In the future Skynet sends a terminator in the past to kill Schwarzy before he can kill the predator, so there you have it : Arnold as a commando has to fight Arnold as a terminator in the jungle, AND a predator. You're welcome, Hollywood.

[@luckyjosh7]

Ah yes, "The Sarah Conner Chronicles"; aka The TV Show Better than All the Terminator Films after T2 Combined

[@andymc96]

Worth a video I think.

[@SamVarvodic]

Linda said "I'll be back" with the same enthusiasm I have when I'm voice searching a video on KZbin.

[@CerpinTxt87]

It would kind of be out of character if she said it with enthusiasm

[@rangers94ism]

It's actually funny how much I don't want to see this movie.

[@IndridCold]

We have reached levels of neither the PC people nor, peopke who enjoy things like good movies, ir terrible ones.. Everyones just like "no you guys can have it" Shocked the perpetually offended shove it back trying to pawn it off on the others.. You know its bad when feminists wont take it.

[@punchysonichu5395]

Saw it. Knew nothing about it beforehand. Wasn't even aware it was coming out, let alone aware of the internet drama which its marketing team apparently tried to stir up. Fell asleep halfway into the film. Can't really recommend it.

[@alexdamaceno]

It’s not a bad movie. In times, it’s really good. But if you have any affection for T2, DON’T SEE IT. EVER.

[@jacoblevenson7934]

@@alexdamaceno So a massive chunk of its targeted audience?

[@alexdamaceno]

jacob levenson Funny, right? But, hey, there’s a bunch of creators saying that their actual fans, who are critical of their work, constitute a “toxic fandom”, so maybe they thought it would be best to chase another audience altogether. They just forgot to tell this new & improved audience to go watch the movie.

[@deltamatt001]

Linda Hamilton saying "I'll be back" in the most unemotional, bored, and uninterested way really matches my enthusiasm for this movie.

[@alanpennie8013]

I don't want to be back. But I got bills to pay.

[@Thesavagesouls]

Salvation should have been R-rated. More grim, more dark. I loved the scene when he turns the engines on and it's Rooster from Alice in chains. They let the song go on without talking. The kid ask what it is, because music is kind of lost in thoses times of survival. And the character played by Sam Worthington has that lost look in the eyes, like it triggered some memories. then he look down and come back to the present and answers "Something my brother used to listen".

[@JohnnyZenith]

Salvation is awful. Never talk about it again.

[@jacoblevenson7934]

@@JohnnyZenith But it is the fourth best terminator movie.

[@Thesavagesouls]

@@JohnnyZenith ok but i'll do it anyway.

[@charlottecorday8494]

There is an R rated cut of Salvation, complete with boobs and everything. It's still boring AF.

[@larzkruber822]

The only one where thare changed the direction. Movie flopped Producer guy: "It must have to do with that is was not the same plot again, that is the only explanation that exists!"

[@AidanBelcher22]

Mike's consistent hate for old people is my favorite RLM character arc.

[@BladeV8]

Yes "character" "arc"

[@quehay45]

"BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT GUY!!!" The franchise in a nutshell.

[@golddoommarine]

Batman?

[@bigmoviefreak]

They could have gotten Norman Reedus to play John Connor instead of killing off the character just because Edward Furlong is incapable of handling the character in his current state. Norman Reedus resembles Furlong much more than the other 4 guys.

[@distinguishedallureproduct879]

Acts like how the kid acts as well just with a deeper voice

[@MentalDeviant]

And have kojima write it. Actually this would be a good video game!

[@jakebiomask]

Norman is way too old. Furlong isn't on drugs anymore they could have easily got him again.

[@JerseyMcgee81]

Awesome Ideal

[@Davidlicious52]

The gay from stranger things Charlie Heaton

[@Gentlemenpickleesq.]

Carl: "it don't matter... none of this matters..."

[@jakeand9020]

"That's our Terminator Dark Fate poster, we got it as a consolation prize for seeing the movie." Perfect line, delivered perfectly. Honestly, I don't understand why the future resistance girl wasn't just made John's daughter and kill adult John at the start of the movie. Sarah wasn't there, they had a falling out because John believed it was over and she couldn't let go, so she's still the crazy militarist. She comes into the story because John's dead and her granddaughter is in danger. Just like that you don't shit all over the original and Sarah is in the story organically without the convoluted "I hunt terminator's and get tipped off where they're going to show up from someone." She never bothered to find out who, and how would he even know anyway? If you must have Arnold, make him the guy they modeled the original Terminator after, who's in the know.

[@efgragin]

It was his sled. He regretted how his successful life turned out and missed his childhood sled, so he created a time machine and replaced his bones with nanobots to go snowsledding in the past on Rosebud. There,now noone needs to watch this.

[@vorbo01]

......you know exactly why they killed John. He's a white man hero character, they can't allow that

[@jakeand9020]

@@vorbo01 I understand that the female hero is needed, but she needed a father, why not John. Hell, even make him a deadbeat but his mother still kept an eye on her. Woke and sensible.

[@vorbo01]

@@jakeand9020 ARE YOU DARING TO IMPLY A CHILD NEEDS A *FATHER* FIGURE IN THEIR LIFE YOU BIGOT?!?!

[@jakeand9020]

@@vorbo01 I did not say father "figure" in fact I specifically said they could have made him a deadbeat dad (to really show how selfish and amoral white men are.) However, for now, a biological father is still required, perhaps they could have done a happy ending where in the future she has a child without that masculine taint.

[@sockyninja112]

I'm not gonna see Terminator : Dark Fate, but i would be first in line at the midnight showing of "Those Darn Terminators."

[@stormbender528]

Terminator: Extreme Therapy

[@Sannidor]

So you did not hear about planned sitcom spin-off: "Too many 'Nators"

[@jjg7823]

Terminator: Those Darnolds!

[@johnnymungo323]

the should make a Terminator: Boyhood Edition where a new Terminator attacks John Connor on every birthday for twelve years.

[@oprescue999]

only if it takes twelve years to make it

[@KarbineKyle]

Would Adam Sandler be in it?

[@SciEntertainment]

Could be a plot of Mister Peanutbutter’s “Birthday Dad” from Bojack Horseman

[@Ellthom]

Johnny Mungo think that's the premise for Happy Death Day

[@jetydosa1]

now THAT is an idea!

[@SquareOFortune]

A year later, I’ve found the term you were looking for to describe this genre: it’s a Deboot.

[@floydharper1216]

"I hunt terminators" is honestly all I need to hear to avoid ever seeing this movie. I don't care how cringey the actual movie is, doing that faux wannabe badass thing is enough to kill it

[@Vaporvice84]

Movie making 101: Show, don't tell. That would've been a better movie, but that would've costed too much to de-age Linda for the entire film, and have it take place during the 2000s or whatever.

[@paulmajano]

She thinks she’s Samus 🤣

[@glacialimpala]

But then you'll miss seeing the cringiest scene ever involving frozen laundry

[@merces47letifer4]

You didn't miss anything. I'm a Terminator mark, and this movie was shockingly bad.

[@luiginastro8831]

Yeah. Sarah Connor as written in the original '84 movie and T2 is already pretty fucking badass. In this one, it just comes across as forced and unsubtle, like a lot of "strong female characters" in recent action blockbusters. I'M NOT BEING SEXIST THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS

[@BetweenTheLyons]

"It was supposed to be the start of a new trilogy" should have been the tagline of Terminators 3-6 lol

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

It should be the tagline of every piece of shit farted out by Hollywood studios over the next decade.

[@auringtail]

Kyle Reese: It doesn't feel remorse. Terminator: I'm sowwy.

[@wyrmh0le]

I got more feels from that clip from T1 even with Dark Fate and Jay interrupting than I did from the last 4 Terminator movies.

[@neilgoldberg547]

The Terminator with restrictions on its mode from Skynet doesn't feel remorse, but then again who the fuck reset Carl's chip, and since Skynet doesn't exist....wait what?

[@purushottammukherjee]

UwU

[@thepickles8833]

Neil Goldberg Skynet does eventually learn remorse though after it annihilates the entire human race

[@peytonmac1131]

To be fair, Kyle had been fighting them his entire life, so probably not feeling very charitable toward them in terms of seeing them as anything other than killers.

[@LordMay0]

I searched "but that's a different guy" and this is what came up.

[@drquantum6548]

IF you gonna make a terminator after T2 just make a movie about the war, saving private ryan style.

[@Icarusabove]

Part of what Salvation sort of did right.

[@Vaporvice84]

A movie with characters that we are introduced to and learn to care for throughout the film? A novel concept that hasn't been attempted since the first film.

[@bearimo2867]

I don’t know the whole point of T2 was surely to avoid the war, to end on a positive, so her son doesn’t have to become a military leader, so billions live. I’m cool with the idea of starting it during the war but going back to prevent it, sort of Skynets plan in reverse, but they’ve *sort of* done this. Agree with Mike first half was great and then slowly I saw the creeping appearance of a committee of shadowy producers and executives saying they should have another action scene and Arnie should be in it etc... shame as it really was decent for the first hour.

[@JohnDonovan1968]

Terminator: Resistence?

[@lucasoheyze4597]

In order for T2 to happen, there has to be an original timeline in which judgement day still happens 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@CoreyGIvey]

The epilogue of T2: The Director's Cut showing Sarah Connor watching John and her grandaughter playing in the same park that would have been destroyed if Judgement Day had occurred is the true ending of the Terminator storyline. I so wish that ending had been in the theatrical ending...

[@BenGoodsonModular]

The opening ten minutes of this should have been the entire review.

[@jonnyblucky]

Even mike couldn’t get through it without laughing

[@redtexan7053]

Great idea for the next Terminator movie: Skynet and the Resistance put their differences aside, and send a Terminator back through both time AND space to kill James Cameron.

[@JonIsFrench]

“Wait, that’s John Connor? But that’s a different guy!!”

[@theguardian8317]

"Jurassic World: Jurassic World-Park" was the worst one of them.

[@JoeLewis14]

That's Mr. Plinkett? But that's a different guy.

[@averyaustin1]

Batman?

[@billnguyen4148]

little did Arnold knew, his line "I'll be back." is the most ironic line in cinema history. cause please don't come back, Terminator franchise, you overstayed your welcome 31 years ago...

[@Graham-gt4gr]

There is a law of movies that all horror movies eventually go into space, like Halloween, Jason, Leprechaun, Critters, and species.

[@baphy643]

Finally a movie I don’t care about so I can watch the whole review in one sitting!

[@charmander466]

I didn't even realize it came out until the reviews came in. They should have stopped at three.

[@Jarumo76]

"Sarah Connor cuts terminators down like they're butter, and they are really pretty useless."

[@user-uj4os7pk2g]

It's gonna be great

[@roach9397]

@@user-uj4os7pk2g That's gonna be great

[@hasan_z]

Dark Fate will be the darkest of the 3

[@ghostman76015]

Everthing is so dense

[@mdcraig62]

@@ghostman76015 Fuck you Rick Berman!

[@bunnywaffles1190]

"But that's another guy!" sums up the entirety of this confusing mess of a continuity and character portrayals.

[@RobTunes]

The more Mike says “they built a time machine in a sewer”, the more I realize how utterly absurd it is. I really just didn’t think about it on first viewing. But, like - these clowns built a time machine in a sewer. WOW.

[@emotionalsupportostrich2480]

Not only that, how did the t800 know how to build a time machine with 1980s tech?

[@jedi4049]

@@emotionalsupportostrich2480 That should have been the movie

[@lucasoheyze4597]

They needed the chip from the future to make it work, I guess they could build the basic framework of the machine without it

[@duncanshepherd1631]

Mike's war on the elderly rages on...

[@alexfurnas1263]

"Terminator: Deep Fake" is the hidden gem of this video

[@DJRashadHayes]

The tapping at the beginning on the keyboard is amazing lmao.

[@SheikhMawini]

"Why don't they just go back to the time of the dinosaurs? Wait... is that how Claire ended up in Jurassic World???" I laughed.