Halloween 2018 Review - Off The Shelf Reviews

This week Gary and Iain review and discuss, Halloween (2018) by Director, David Gordon Green. Starring, Jamie Lee Curtis, Judy Greer and Andi Matichak .
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[@dhi1145]

Are you kidding?! The opening was one of the best parts of the movie!

[@wopjohn]

The 2 cops in the car discussing sandwiches is like if Michael Myers appeared on "getting coffee" with Jerry seinfeld

[@bujilou]

A sequel to Halloween 3 or finally start the anthology idea! One per year, they can have my money

[@jonnybaze]

BUJILOU ™ starting the anthology would be fantastic. Idk about a sequel to 3 though. I'd definitely prefer it to any reboots or sequels to this. Idk if they would do the original 3 justice.

[@eduardo_corrochio]

Carpenter (or whoever) could still start an anthology film series to be released every October with a different story, and give each movie the title "Halloween Night" (or something else that's macabre) and then a subtitle of its own. That way, we could break from the Michael Myers thing entirely. ( And _finally_ )

[@Chloe-vi5mb]

One of the best things about this film is the soundtrack

[@gnc623]

Yes! I thought the movie was just good/decent/average, but I thought the score was phenomenal, especially that new piece, "The Shape Hunts Allyson."

[@anthonyhudak9363]

Can you guys PLEASE take a look at The Collector and The Collection?

[@LordIsaacofGlencoe]

Gary: *speaks* Iain: yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah

[@JohnBlack2345]

hate that.

[@gonzalocastaneda52]

Let the man speak! 😂

[@JohnBlack2345]

@@gonzalocastaneda52 oh thank you!!!

[@Arechz]

Greatest reviewers of all time! Keep up the incredible work 🙏🏻

[@marcusbuckley2013]

great review. Thing to always remember about the Michael Meyers character is that he mostly has more fun by scaring people than just killing them. In the first movie he could have killed a ton of people but he prefers to build up his own tension and gets off on the fear he creates as much as the kill.

[@catspaw3092]

It would've been more impactful if the male podcaster survived Michael's attack & when he sees Laurie again he tells her that he does believe in the Boogeyman.

[@BIadesMan]

Male podcaster?

[@robertallen2109]

I know y'all get this a lot but I'm so glad I found your channel. Even when I disagree with you guys, Iain, I still respect you and your opinions... Iain. The sincerity of your insight and general love of film is truly a delight. Thank you for sharing it!

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

Personally I think these guys don't get that enough lol they most certainly deserve to hear it as often as possible.

[@robertallen2109]

Definitely can't hurt! Drinks on me if y'all find yourselves in Dallas/Fort Worth Texas.

[@Amber_xo_133]

In the child's bedroom the rotating lamp features a clown with a knife, a nod to the first killing in the original film. As with the original Halloween (1978), Michael Myers is listed in the credits not as "Michael Myers", but "The Shape". Jamie Lee Curtis credits the film as living up to the original. Jamie Lee Curtis revealed to Chris Hardwick on his podcast that she performed the sounds of the baby crying when Michael walks through the house after slaughtering the resident with a hammer and grabbing a butcher's knife from the kitchen. While the film ignores all previous sequels and reboots, it pays homage to all Halloween films, as had been intended by co-Writer Danny McBride. Jake Gyllenhaal helped convince Jamie Lee Curtis to reprise her role of Laurie Strode for the film. Jake Gyllenhaal is a family friend of Curtis' and is dubbed by her as an unofficial godson. The date the film was released in the U.K. & U.S.A. is the day Michael Myers was born. October 19th. Became the highest grossing "Halloween" film in the franchise in its opening weekend Released coinciding with the 40th Anniversary of Halloween (1978). A radio call coming over the police band mentions a "disturbance at 707 Meridian", a tribute to the real life original address of the Myers house in Halloween (1978) before it was moved a few blocks down. The song that is playing when the boy and his dad notice the bus crash is a western version of the song that Laurie sings throughout the original movie, this song can also be heard during the end credits The gas station is almost an exact replica of the gas station prominently appearing in Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988), down to the ice box outside. Michael and Laurie are not brother and sister in this version This is the first Halloween movie to be shot digitally instead of on film. Michael Myers is 61 years old in this film John Carpenter claimed that this would be the last Halloween film, even though there were contractual obligations for a sequel. As of November 2019, two sequels are already in development.

[@tjenahoj]

At least Carpenters Halloween theme sounded awesome. :)

[@rutger6789]

I was suprised how good the movie was :) I thought it would be much worse

[@hypnocilicdreams]

Excellent review, perfect Halloween night entertainment! Thanks guys

[@bosz2076]

Great review, happy Halloween guys!

[@danielcrick8871]

Thank you guys, for another amazing review! And on the perfect day too🎃

[@Kains_Gaming_Channel]

Wait! I've just noticed Iain cut his hair!

[@razzarazza1238]

Been waiting for this one for a long time now. Thanks guys

[@thecawmaster9892]

Soon as I found out my birthday was on a Thursday this year I hoped you'd review this😁

[@lucasalce6010]

Additional details required

[@jonnychadbourne8127]

Praying for a Thirteen Ghosts review from you guys! It's such an underrated movie :D

[@jonnychadbourne8127]

@NADS IQ Good job media is subjective :)

[@andrewblanchard2398]

HAPPY HALLOWEEN 2019 🎃 👻

[@Jay-mu4xl]

Can't wait to see your review on this after work today!

[@AarenJable]

Thanks guys, happy halloween

[@djmexicanodetx2195]

Happy Halloween! 🎃

[@katyrye]

I mean even in Halloween H2O she knew he wasn't dead and hijack the ambulance

[@ChrisManley1994]

I've been waiting for you guys to review this!!!!

[@PondoSinatra680]

It was ok. Not perfect, but certainly watchable. Better than some of the films currently in the franchise.

[@jonnybaze]

Robert Magnano better than some of the films isn't worth saying. Some of the films were barely films. Watchable might be the best way to describe it. Which is a huge compliment for reboots etc and that's sad.

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

I think Resurrection is OK and not as terrible as people say. But its below H20 and just about even with Halloween 5 and 6. What I hate is people who say they love Halloween and going bonkers over this and I'm DID YOU NOT SEE PART 4!! thats all they did. they did part 4 again.

[@Mr_Ghoulie]

36:16 "I'll protect my family, cause I'm super-dad." I think what you meant to say was "I'm Arty, the strongest man, in the world."

[@davebooshty299]

I Gave it a 5.5 Out Of a Booshty Ten , Jaime Lee Was Awesome , The Music was Great , The Movie Was Great looking , But Dr Sartain was Terrible , His Exit Was Silly Too , the Guy Getting out of the truck to check on a Prison Bus Crash Was Dumb and the Very ending Was Dissapointing , After 40 YEARS of Preperation , I Felt. Lauries Traphouse was awesome , but Yet it failed?

[@davebooshty299]

Laurie Strode Took 40 years to Rig a Great Killhouse and Somehow STILL Messed it Up at the End Somehow , Due to We Already Know There Are 2 More Sequels ahead , She Had 40 years , 40. Good Job Laurie ?

[@cnferguson5]

Lol yeah, she installed an ammo/gun closet big enough for a adult human and complete with a metal door, perfect for shielding you from the fire.

[@MrEnergee1987]

I’m waiting for a review on the 1987 cult classic three o’clock high

[@JohnBlack2345]

Love. That. Film.

[@coryortega3556]

I already liked this video and I haven’t watched it yet! Cuz I’ve been waiting for you guys to review this for a whole year!!!!! I’m gonna enjoy this!

[@KaigaiKitsune]

Iain begins plot synopsis without saying "Well the story follows..." 0/10 unsubbed

[@williamlowery6487]

They're selling out!

[@RetroRanter]

😂

[@coryortega3556]

😂😂😂

[@Jay-mu4xl]

😂 😂

[@jmc8602]

Another cracking review ! fair play these guys always nail it ...

[@ronnieh9822]

I was thinking u guys were gonna do this one on halloween awesome!!😀

[@AubreyTheKing]

Interesting fact about Danielle Harris being in Halloween (2018). She actually tried her best, and I mean she tried her damnist to be in the film as Lorie's daughter. In fact, there was even a petition turns the film by fans that wanted her to be in the role too! I never did sign the petition, but I really wanted her to be in the role as well! "Supposedly" the film makers were aware of this by fans, but for some reason, they didn't agree to let her in. Which was a BIG MISTAKE on them! Danielle even replied being disappointed. Now, even IF she does appear in the next Halloween films, it wouldn't feel right. SHE should have played Lorie's daughter. Ah well. Anyway, aside from that, This was a good film! As a fan of the series, this is my third favorite Halloween sequel. Though, I wish this was the last one. Instead of doing ANOTHER Michael Myers movie, just make a sequel to Halloween III and let Michael Myers die in peace. Micheal Myers is my favorite slasher killer, but I just wish they let him sleep. But despite my complaints, I will be seeing the sequels lol I mean I am a fan, so I have to. HAPPY HALLOWEEN, Gary & Iain! See you guys next week! :)

[@user-zh4vo1kw1z]

Nah, including here would've tied it too much to the Thorn-trilogy. And that would mean the next one would have to be a kungfighting busta rhymes in the next one

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

@@user-zh4vo1kw1z I feel sorry for Danielle. The producers have been routinely disrespectful for no reason. She was hardly asking for a lot of money. Absurd.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

You guys are awesome, yo!

[@philipchildukvhs4767]

Happy Halloween

[@davebooshty299]

But SO Oddly Myers wasn't even after Laurie during all of this , He just Happened to be almost sorta brought to her by Sartain , So the Myers Vs Laurie thing was only Incidental?

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

And why does Sartain have this weird love/gay/occult fascination with M. No one KNOWS he's special in this story. He had one crazy night and he's like THATS THE BOGEYMAN I MUST PROTECT HIM. Dumb.

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 Its not explained well but the idea is simply hes a doctor who has become obsessed with his patient mostly because he cant get a read on Myers because he never speaks so you can never understand his motives. The doctor was just obsessed with wanting to understand what makes Michael tick

[@katyrye]

I think if they had included two that it would have maybe had more of an impact. Like she was Ultra ready for him. And I think it would have made more sense if she was related and had lived through Halloween 1 and 2

[@JB-ju4ev]

@Grant Kerr and with the direction they took laurie, about how battle trained and ready she is for mike, she almost dies immidiatley when he gets to her house (through contrived events because their not related anymore) and almost dies 2 more times after he choked her through the door... this movie kept making me roll my eyes. I like the original and the second (sorta), this movie just kept reminding me how old they are, especially michaels mask... kept making me think that he's like 70 yrs old, I pretty much hated everything but the score and cinematography. I hated the jokes, all the "call backs" (re-treaded too much with that for me imo, the score and laurie was enough, I didn't need scenes, kills, costumes, shots, just too much shit I didn't feel like it was a new movie, just a twist on whats been done before) they'll never be able to re capture the original, and maybe the second in my opinion, its just a cash grab now. this movie did nothing but remind me that Hollywood sucks ass at writing scripts, and how old the original is.

[@chef5862]

Imagine if superdad took down the boogeyman

[@chrislawson1988]

Love watching all of your halloween reviews. Seen other ones you guys are so funny but love the halloween movies.

[@mrkipling2201]

Michael being transported on a bus again. These people really haven’t learned yet, have they??

[@Dd8505]

I would love you guys to do a review of TERRIFIER.....I would be so interested as to what you guys thought of that film.

[@ryangettig274]

24:06-That's Halloween 2,not the original TSShelf.

[@VisualMaelStrom]

7:30 The FBI defines a serial killer as someone who kills three or more people over a time frame of greater than a month with significant time between the murders.

[@AngelCruz-pd1hc]

Finally I've been waiting for this halloween review for you guys opinion and even Ian who is a fan for halloween 2 and sister.

[@MrLorenzovanmatterho]

Did you notice when we first see Laurie's daughter she's staring into space just like Michael in the asylum in Halloween 2? I always figured after Michael fell out of the window she crawled off into the bushes and was there arrested by the police.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

That makes him seem like he's weak and not that big a deal. I mean if he could get arrested so easily why is this time so different? Besides isn't he like, an old man?

[@MrLorenzovanmatterho]

@@GODCONVOYPRIME He has been stabbed 3 times, shot six times and dumped out of a 1st floor window? Even the Shape would take a moment.

[@elijahisaiah8623]

I honestly agree with you guys, because when first heard that other people, especially Halloween fans were disappointed (including one fanboy saying that he hated it), I was sitting there saying “What are people disappointed at, this worth while sequel.” As for me, seeing most of the films in the franchise, I 100% take it over Thorn Cult trilogy (even though I liked the 4th one), Busta Rhymes and screaming hillbilly parents. I didn’t an amazing, I just wanted a good Halloween movie, that is what, in my opinion, got.

[@jonnybaze]

Elijah Isaiah yes other sequels are barely films but that shouldn't be the measuring stick. It was sub par. Definitely a watchable film but one that left me hating a lot of stuff and not wanting a revisit.

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

I will only say try to find the producer's cut for Halloween 6 - it does not save the film but many things make much more sense. I like the Thorn cult - at least it gives MM a purpose. It was getting boring him falling down and then getting up for NO reason. I will do some videos soon to try to give the Thorn films their due.

[@mattmidgley4275]

Happy Halloween shelfers 👊👊👻

[@candacethompson5042]

Hey guys love the show. Wanted to point out that Michael is straight up random in this movie. He never directly seeks out Lori in the movie.

[@andrewblanchard2398]

36:07 answers the question from HALLOWEEN KILLS WAS THERE A GUN ROOM WITH A DOOR ON IT IN THE BASEMENT IN HALLOWEEN 2018 ?

[@charliipresley]

Michael wasn’t even going after Lori in this. He only encountered her since the doc set it up

[@davebooshty299]

17:00 a Throwback to When Annie gets killed in part 1 in the car scene I think it was.

[@jonnybaze]

Dave Booshty wasn't there a dude killed in a car too? I think Michael was the character.

[@davebooshty299]

@@jonnybaze I think as far as killed in car victims go i think in part 1 it was Annie only.

[@Predator1987X]

Fuck YEAH. I was waiting for this review.

[@oskar_oskarewicz]

I can totally understand people's issues with this movie to some extend. But in my opinion fans are waaaay over analysing this flick They nitpick a lot, and in the same time they forgive the same bullshit stuff (or even worse) in the old sequels. I guess it is a matter of nostalgia. I have no nostalgia for Halloween series, I've seen original Halloween for the first time in 2015. I think it is a masterpiece, 10/10. People praise the original sequel, which is fine, sure, 7/10, but you can tell Carpenter was forced to write the script, and he didn't have any thing cool and new to add to this story, He even admitted that himself. You can feel it watching the flick. Also he have added additional gory and silly slasher stuff to the director's cut, to keep up with other slashers at that time (which killed the vibe of first movie a bit). The director was not happy with it. He had another vision. And in case of Halloween 2018 you can fucking tell it is a work of passion, and that the studio, director, writters, actors, the crew, everyone respect the original a lot (and even the flawed sequels), and did their best. In my opinion Haloween 2018 (with all it's flaws) is way better than H4, H20, and H ressurection and RZ's remake (haven't seen H5 and H6 yet). It is well written, well directed, well scored, well casted and acted. It tries to tell a bigger story than a typical slasher. If you ask me it is the best mainstream, big studio slasher since Scream 4. It's a good movie, a great horror and an awesome slasher. For me it's the best sequel so far. Cheers guys!

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

I've done a lot of research on the whole series. I will post videos soon but I think I will fair if critical of some choices like the Thorn trilogy. But I'm surprised you say its better than 4 certain scenes seem basically stolen from it as well as H2. Maybe I'm seeing things but it felt like they lifted H4 a lot.

[@allamaraine8066]

35:30 - Come on, guys! That’s Toby Huss - Artie from Pete & Pete. I’m gonna be seriously surprised if you guys aren’t Pete & Pete fans.

[@kathrynoneill5862]

I really miss Loomis when I realized that the podcasters were british I was kinda hoping they were the niece or nephew of Dr. Loomis.

[@Aristotle501]

Well I was planning to put a link here to the boxofficemojo franchise list and say, 'Look at the "adjusted for inflation" list.' Unfortunately those pricks who bought boxofficemojo (IMDB) have now made that an IMDB Pro feature, meaning you have to pay to see that now. I happen to know from previously checking, when it was free, that Halloween 1978 sold more tickets than any film in the franchise. It's only the price of tickets inflating over the decades that makes this seem like the most successful Halloween film, it's not.

[@andrewblanchard2398]

HALLOWEEN 2018 I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THE CHARACTERS

[@neondeion12]

Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think Michael really cared about finding Laurie in this movie. The only reason they even crossed paths is because she sought him out and then at the end because of Dr. Sartain.

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

@NADS IQ PLOT DEVICE! And how could Sartain be crazy not to have a way to sedate MM. Loomis was never that dumb.

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

@NADS IQ I'M agreeing with you. Jesus I thought that was obvious.

[@NoMastersNoMistress]

Michael is technically a spree killer, since he needs NO cool down period whatsoever in-between kills.

[@victorvictor8587]

God the Head Hacker has a Way of Cleaning up the Gene Pool .

[@vovasyhin7219]

Wait, wasn't Laurie following the bus, are we supposed to believe she let him escape without without actually trying to stop him despite preparing for such a thing for 40 years?

[@sarads7877]

I don’t think she followed the bus, she parked in front of the mental facility, pondering wether or not to try and kill michael once he exited, and in the end she had a break down in the car and did nothing… She never actually started the pursuit, and only learned about the crash the following day

[@dukefritter6536]

Another great review 👍 Im a big fan of John Carpenter and this was his original idea for a sequel back in the days and I thought it was awesome that this new film let his vision finally get brought to the screen but I also like that the filmmakers still respected the franchise and payed tribute to it in many ways in a lot of the sequences.

[@jamessiddle7389]

Are you guy's gonna review Kills since Halloween End's is almost here? 🎃

[@petecorrie391]

It's just a pity that this trilogy went downhill so fast after this film. Halloween 2018 was a decent film, and a return to form for the franchise. Halloween Kills, despite it's flaws, did have some good moments. Especially the 1978 scene, and at least kept Michael Myers at the forefront. Halloween Ends...I do respect the fact that something slightly different was attempted, and the "evil changes shape" motif... however, I would have liked it a lot more if it had been 95% Michael Myers, and 5% Corey. One of the only redeemable elements for me was that it definitively killed off Michael Myers, and we weren't subjected to the H20/Resurrection clothes switch twist.

[@ipoulter9765]

It’s 3 guys, 3 to become a serial killer

[@casperdaghost7836]

Hype gotta watch when j get up

[@NoMastersNoMistress]

H I and H II had no histrionics, which was a huge bonus. I couldn't abide Zombie's histrionics. They ruined what could have been other wise two very good horror films with interesting scripts. I'll been avoiding this. I wish H3 hadn't flopped. Carpenter's anthology plans sounded fantastic, and H 3 is grossly underrated.

[@edisonlima4647]

What would be your favourite Halloween timeline? Mine would be Halloween and Halloween II. Two movies.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

Kinda like Terminator?

[@jonnybaze]

So it Goes 1,2 and h20 or 3.

[@jackcraven2266]

Despite the great hype that it had, i was so worried that movie will turn out to be not as good as everyone hoped, but when i first saw it, i knew i had my new favorite sequel! It was such great experience watching this film in theater last year on Halloween, and i hope that the next two films will be good, if not great. And as always, good job with review!

[@Space_Ishmael]

I'm kinda hoping that if they make a sequel to this they switch to a new killer. I don't remember them showing the corpse of the Englishman so it'd be kinda cool if he came back as the new killer. The heavy breathing after the credits could be him in the hospital after getting himself completely rocked by Michael. He wouldn't be much of a threat through sheer size and strength but surely he'd know tactics used by killers.

[@jonnybaze]

Kizzer Causewell's Killer Cabal not a chance. MM will definitely be in the film

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

I can't spoil it but they do something that you suggest in Part 4. I recommend seeing it.

[@GunBlade666]

Hi guys, have you ever seen Stephen Kings "The Langoliers" if not its an awesome mystery movie. Love your reviews keep up the great content.

[@gonzalocastaneda52]

I was waiting to hear y'all review for this poor excuse of a Michael Myers movie. 😅 This movie blows. I'm heart broken.

[@rutger6789]

I liked it :D

[@clarencegboddicker8144]

Holy shit, you Have to Love John Carpenter's honesty! It's Gold at this point in society.

[@brianparent4023]

Yessss happy Halloween bitches!

[@rauljulia9557]

It's kinda funny how Laurie has lived in fear of one incarcerated man for 40 years but then she tells her minor grandchild to go to Mexico alone. Mexico. Surely nothing bad has ever happened there.

[@lungfulldrummer8921]

No mention of the kid she was baby sitting? He almost stole the show for me.

[@Cwhirt910]

The opening to this movie was great, it shows that no one knows how to get through to Michael not even showing him his original mask got a response out of him like they expected. Showing that even though it's been years and years there's no clue what makes Michael tick.

[@user-zh4vo1kw1z]

Does make me wonder what would happen if they got the mask he wore as a kid. Would've made it a very different movie....

[@user-zh4vo1kw1z]

Jamie Lee did the crying baby live, think it was on Graham Norton. Scarier than any of the Halloween movies....

[@salliewagenblatt5188]

Halloween 2 1981 is still the real sequel to the 1978 classic this is just a best of highlights to the original and it's stupid that they called it just Halloween without a subtitle so it feels like a remake not a sequel as there's now three outings simply called Halloween so you don't know if people are talking about the first movie the remake or this one in less you say the year its very annoying couldn't they bothered to put an undername on it calling it something like Halloween returns would've been perfect.

[@jasondouglas152]

No better name for the direct sequel to " Halloween" as ..... " Halloween"

[@91MoonKnight]

Great review guys!!! I've actually garnered my knowledge of the Halloween franchise by watching your reviews on the Halloween films so your reviews helped me prepare for this new film.

[@AceHardy]

Taking notes 📝

[@philipchildukvhs4767]

Michael Myers

[@krisorgan]

There's something about Judy Greer, i think she's absolutely gorgeous.

[@RuudHooletsNest]

I highly doubt you could teach her how to act.

[@krisorgan]

@@RuudHooletsNest Lol probably not

[@JohnBlack2345]

THE COMPANY said make one film. to see how successful it would be.

[@brianparent4023]

So much hate in these comments. I loved this movie. It’s definitely in my top three Halloween movies with the original and season of the witch.

[@neonsmoviereviews7969]

I like that they did away with 2 as I hated the sibling plot line and feel the focus on that really ruined the franchise. Having said that, they needed to find a better reason to have Michael be interested in fighting Laurie again, outside of Sartain’s weird forced scenario.

[@irishvader2193]

Im excited about the idea of a burnt michael in the next film.

[@victorvictor8587]

And they Never used a Pipe Bomb what a Joke even Kyle Reese in the Terminator used a Fucking Pipe Bomb .

[@SciFirstMovieTalk]

Great review! Dont dislike the film but it isn't amazing.

[@blackmamba32goat]

A serial killer is 3 or more killings

[@allamaraine8066]

49:55 - Or they could do both!

[@DamzelNDistress]

Actually if you kill more then 2 people your classified as a serial killer but technically Michael is a spree killer not a serial killer because serial killers take rest in between they're next kill

[@gnc623]

I have mixed feelings about this movie. I don't hate it, and it is considerably better than some of the other Halloweens out there, I'll give it that. (Lookin at you, Resurrection and Rob Zombie. Lol). What I like about it: -Michael -Laurie -Allyson -The deputy character What I LOVE about it: -The score! Holy crap, I actually did think the score for this movie was amazing, ESPECIALLY the new one, "The Shape Hunts Allyson," that music that plays when the yard lights come on and Allyson sees Michael for the first time. In fact, I think I may even like it better than the original theme. -I gotta admit, too, I loved the callback when Michael throws Laurie out the window...and when he looks again, she's gone, just like he was in the original. I thought that was pretty neat. -Dr. Loomis' voice on that tape that played back about Michael. That was sweet! What I don't like about it: -The humor. UGH. Cringy. I knew the humor for the whole thing was going to be bad from the get go as soon as the dad said, "Aw, man. I got peanut butter all over my penis." I turned to my buddy I was watching the movie with and said, "Did he REALLY just say that?" -Basically almost all the other characters I didn't mention under the things I liked category. I thought most of the characters in this movie weren't that good to be honest. -Okay, what is the significance of eliminating the brother and sister relationship between Michael and Laurie? I get that some people didn't like that aspect of it, and I know that wasn't originally Carpenter's plan, but the thing of it is, it makes NO difference in this movie. And really, that Michael and Laurie are brother and sister is so ingrained in the franchise now that it's actually very hard to NOT think of them as brother and sister. It still seemed so personal for Laurie. I think the brother and sister angle strengthened the plot, not weakened it. People's complaint was that it gave Michael motive, that he was supposed to just be a random killer who liked to kill people. Well, Michael always did like to kill people...he didn't just pursue Laurie and no one else. But I thought the fact that he had it out for his sister made him even more evil. Not the fact that she did anything to him, but that he's so evil he just wants to destroy any familial bond that he has. So, anyway, that's my thoughts. This movie is a mixed bag for me. Okay, not bad, but I don't think it really justifies its existence besides more money.

[@JB-ju4ev]

I liked that couple of things you listed too, but most of the movie felt like re-tread scenes from other Halloweens imo, some was cool but then its like too much if you've seen most of them. I didn't like everything you listed as well. since their not related anymore, it doesn't make sense anymore because of how they did it. now since their not brother and sister and she's soo traumatized that she built her whole life preparing for someone who "isn't related to her and doesn't care anymore for no reason to even go after her...." its just dumb, then when he gets to her house (because plot.... stupid contrived set of impossible events to have them face off even though theirs no point anymore) she almost dies immediately! wtf and then two more times after that! her plan kept making me roll my eyes soo much I got a headache, I didn't like laurie in this movie. she planned and planned but almost bit the dust 3 times through stupid mistakes. she was over traumatized for really no reason, to the point of being an alchoholic crazy who had 2 failed marriages, and really for no reason since they aren't even related. the sheriff dealt with more than her seeing all the deaths and familys afterward compared to what laurie went through in the first.... the end could have been soo much better imo, it just sucked and made laurie look stupid and the whole movie made her seem overly traumatized and crazy, not strong at all. just my opinion, I agree with you, all except laurie, I don't have a hard on for Jamie lee Curtis like most ppl, they could have done her character a lot better, like atleast making her plan work for the most part at the end, not almost blowing it and dying 3 times for stupid decisions

[@gnc623]

@@JB-ju4ev Yeah, there was definitely a lot of stuff that was retreaded. I can see what you mean about Laurie. I just liked her, but I didn't think she was an amazing part of the movie. And yeah, I have to admit, I mean what what she went through in the original was traumatic, but it does make me wonder if a normal person would be THAT paranoid years later. I totally get what you mean.

[@gnc623]

@@JB-ju4ev And also, yeah, some of the stuff that happened just seemed to happen because the plot required it. Immediately when the boyfriend through the cellphone in the punch bowl (or whatever it was), I thought, "Oh, hello contrived plot device necessary to Allyson can't be warned about Michael." It wasn't believable how he just grabbed her thrown and threw it like that. Would have made more sense if it had fallen out while she was dancing and someone stepped on it, or something.

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

@@gnc623 I thought it was pudding. But those kids were beyond annoying. Only the babysitter dying mattered and I felt for her. Everyone else was a robot. And I get having Laurie's granddaughter but the whole feminist subtext was dumb. I have no issue with feminism but MM NEVER targeted women in particular. He just went after people period. Who cares if three generation of women stand up - just run away already. At least, people in h4 and h5 had some logic to their actions.

[@mojosodope45]

His mask being available isn’t that far fetched. OJs bronco can be bought.

[@williamhiers1280]

It's currently in a crime museum in Pigeon Forge I believe.

[@johnry6086]

Good to know, not

[@B.von.Bentzen]

I don't need no more Mike Myers

[@JohnBlack2345]

don't watch it.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

I disagree with the decision to dissolve Miguel Myers and Jamie Laurie Lee Strodes familial relationship.

[@EntertainmentFan11]

Well, Carpenter was drunk and suffered writer's block while working on the screenplay for part 2. Remember, he and Debra Hill didn't wanna do a sequel in the first place.

[@JohnBlack2345]

IMPO, I hated it as well....but if they left that in, they would then have had to explain all the injuries that MM suffered. they couldn't write that off I don't believe. but I am with you.....the story itself was done so poorly that maybe the other reason why they dropped it.

[@tobiarsn]

Please review Dark

[@RetroRanter]

The Halloween review awesome.. I mean the holiday not the movie. Well, at least I like all 3 Halloween movies, the 3 just titled Halloween, jeez this is confusing. The Michael scenes were the best thing about the movie, everything else was OK, made me want a slashers POV movie, Great review anyways guys. 😁💀

[@jonnybaze]

Retro Ranter you don't ever like the 3rd film? I think that's the second best. Not a fan of this one.