Hands on with the new Seiko Prospex 62MAS, improving on the SPB143 with the SPB451, SPB453 & SPB455

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I'm super excited to get hands on with all new models from the Seiko Prospex 1965 Heritage Diver’s Watch collection. The SPB451, SPB453 & SPB455 divewatch. With all the new updates, did the SPB143 just get better ? Is this still the best looking diver on the market and the best affordable alternative to the Rolex submariner in terms of looks ? What about that new date position on the dial?
In this video we are taking a closer look at all dial colours & we are doing some side by side comparison shots with my Seiko SPB143.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:25 Specifications & comparing with the SPB143
02:38 Dial Colours
03:10 Movement
03:28 Date Placement
04:15 Bracelet
05:12 SPB455 Seichu strap
05:46 Bezel
06:20 My Thoughts

[@ijrm37]

That blue one....would be awesome next to my SPB143

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I'm thinking the same

[@kha6905]

same me was on the way to buy a SPB save the Ocean. Now waiting for the blue

[@lowersaxon]

You wear two watches at the same time? Cool.

[@joshstead40]

The blue one is absolutely the pick of the bunch!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

summer watch !

[@GermanGonzalez]

I'm getting that blue one for sure

[@Xs395]

Cool to see a hands-on, since the announcement. I prefer the symmetry of a no date, but I realize that I check my watch daily for the day of the month. Best of both worlds. If I got a exclusively no-date, I feel like I'd eventually regret if given the option.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Everytime I don’t wear a date watch I’ll try and check it 🤪

[@MCWristWatches]

Fantastic video as always, Tom! I can't wait to have the chance of trying these new models!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Thx M. 🙏

[@trishhunt3137]

Great video Tom. Bracelet seems like a dealbreaker. Why Seiko continues to make great watches with average bracelets makes me scratch my head. Also the accuracy isn’t great either even though the movement has been upgraded. I feel like a nice Seventy30 B&J NATO would look great.

[@Apex_Apeq]

​@@trishhunt3137it's not, my man. I tried this watch early at AD at my place. They upgraded their bracelet. It feels more comfortable than the old version.

[@flaviofigueroa4618]

I agree with you! The blue one is my favorite. Can’t wait to see them in person. I think that matching the date wheel color to the dial plays a big part in making the date placement work. I don’t really mind the date at 4:30 in these new releases but if the date wheels were all white it would bug me for sure haha

[@dustin3886]

Is it just me or are they all simply black/white date wheels… and therefore only matching the black dial version?

[@stevens1041]

Beautiful watch. I like the improvements here. The only thing I don't care for is the movement. Seiko has an amazing 6L and 8L movements. I have owned an 8L, the monoblock marine master, and it was a gem, one of my favorite watches I took everywhere with me and kept excellent time. Previously, I had a 6R15 and was much less impressed with the performance there--back then that was for 800 dollars, the so-called Pepsi bezel on the mm200 back in 2018. I'm reluctant to try a 6R again, this time at 1300.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

the mvmt doesn't get a lot of votes

[@JacobLawrenceCanning]

Seiko is doing great with their new date positioning. I recently picked up a spb 313 and it's quickly becoming my favourite watch.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Congrats on the NWA

[@matthewjee]

That blue one! 💙

[@vincentschneuwly9783]

I do own a SPB143, totally agree it's a great watch I just spent the last two weeks with it on my wrist as my one and only while roadtriping, it's my holiday or under the radar watch. I bought it for times I don't want to wear a luxury item, but guess what sometimes I do pick it up because I do enjoy wearing it not because I have to. My only advice is to wear it on a rubber cause Seiko Natos are good looking but too thick and to me the bracelet is not very confortable. The new dimensions seem to be a good improvement and I do like the new position for the date.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Love mine too. I love all kinds of straps on it

[@word42069]

great.. another watch I’m gonna have to buy this summer .

[@BowlOfSalmon]

😅

[@SmooShocker]

this would be my 3rd seiko once it comes out that blue one for sure!

[@henry20061227]

Thanks so much for the new products video and detailed information.🎉❤

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Glad you like them!

[@1968jpy]

Definitely loving the blue dial version the best . Looking forward till June so I can visit my local AD to check them out.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

It will be hard to resist

[@HobiSeiko]

Hi Tom, Thankyou for making a great video, especially for us Seiko fans 😃 Overall, it’s a great upgrade for these line up.. I feel the same with you, hope the production model has a better bezel action (smoother finish). I think these series isnt going to dethrone the spb143 as it’s already become a future classic 😊

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Thx for watching. Glad you enjoyed it and I hope it was useful

[@hendersonshorology]

Great video Tom! You know, normally I’m not a fan of a 4:30 date window but this one seems really well executed! Nice one Seiko! 👍🏻

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Thx Ryan. I think I’m a neutral supporter in this one too ;)

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Thx Ryan. I think I’m a neutral supporter in this one too ;)

[@jamesvegas702]

My 143 has dominated my collection. I love that watch. I also have the 455 preordered. Thanks for the video. Im super hyped to get that watch on my wrist come June.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Awesome. Congrats ! I might pick one up. We will see

[@jamesvegas702]

@@BowlOfSalmon was lucky enough to have an AD discount it for me to around $1150 since I was on the fence. I realized after going through an AD, that the retail price really is just a suggestion. . . .

[@Apex_Apeq]

already tried this watch in AD at my place. at first I thought this model would have some issues like before, after I checked it up,was a little surprised, because the use of this watch is very comfortable, the bezel is in the right place, and the size is a bit thin, compare to my spb143. the finishing looks neat & luxurious. I think Seiko has started to realize and fear that Citizen will take over the hearts of JDM watch fans 😂😂😂

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Citizen is on a roll and the new spb models bring that little refinement indeed

[@Apex_Apeq]

@@BowlOfSalmon 😁😆👍🏼

[@gynat5968]

I'll be keeping my JDM 143, but look forward to watching these evolve.

[@maitrehg]

So a SBDC101.

[@Z-S-H]

those are beautiful with great dimensions Edit: I also love the date location and color match

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Glad you like them! I think they are nice subtle iteration too

[@siddhant46s54]

I just know they’ll definitely bring back the grey sunray dial and black bezel version sometime in the future, seeing how popular and iconic the SPB143 is . Love all the refinements in case dimensions and as a sucker for symmetry the colour matched date wheel at 4:30 is perfect!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Sounds logical the spb143 will one day get the upgraded package I guess

[@dustin3886]

@@BowlOfSalmon Can you confirm the date wheel color matches dial on all three colorways?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

@@dustin3886 yip they match , note on the SE it is not a 100% match due to the sunburst

[@dustin3886]

⁠@@BowlOfSalmon so the blue dial watch has a blue date wheel and the SE has a grey date wheel with yellow/cream numerals? Maybe it’s my eyes but they all simply look like white text on black bg in the photos and videos I’ve seen.

[@oveman]

Fantastic review. As an owner of the SPB143, this new iteration is exactly what I wanted. I have two gripes with my SPB143. First, there's the long clasp and the wonky and fairly useless dive extension. I wish they got rid of it completely, but at least the clasp is shorter. Also, the fact that the case is ever so slightly smaller is welcome. Finally, I don't like the grey sunburst dial on the SPB143. I know it looks great in some shots, but in direct sunlight seems washed out and the legibility isn't great. Having owned black and blue dial divers, I can tell you that for me black is the way to go. I always end up wearing a black dial watch more since it's so versatile and I love the monochrome, understated look. So I will be upgrading to the SPB451 and probably sell my SPB143. I think that one is the perfect daily + travel watch and you are right about the diashield coating. My SPB143 looks absolutely flawless after 3 years of daily wear and I never tried to baby this watch. It's actually the reason why I'll still go with a Seiko instead of other brand even though there are things I don't like about Seiko (QC issues, movement accuracy and of course the price bump).

[@BowlOfSalmon]

sounds like you will love the new one. and I agree with you, despite all the gripes you mentioned. its a killer watch. thanks for watching !

[@keithkilpatrick6408]

Uncle Straps makes a great bracelet for the original SPB series with female endlinks. It also tappers nicely. It's a tremendous improvement!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I actually have one of those ;) I like it. Just don’t like the connecting lug too much

[@ummar02]

Beautiful, as always I’m little bit late in the party and my favourite one is the blue one.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Not sure how the saying translates in English where the best folks always arrive a little late 😉

[@watchboxer]

Great collection of watches

[@BowlOfSalmon]

All good things come in trio ‘s

[@mariog7213]

I seriously didn’t even notice the date window until you mentioned it. However, the “3 days” text is superfluous and quite daft

[@145Cloverleaf]

I agree, the 3 Days is the bit that's bothering me!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

sorry . hehe

[@bihordz7253]

well thats the next upgrade buddy, we cant have it all in one shot and thats what yuo called marketing strategy. peace!

[@loloverland]

Yep, it just ruins the clean outstanding design, turning it into a flik flak watch

[@MrPatrikvideo]

Thank for the review. Good

[@BowlOfSalmon]

thx man .. appreciated the kind words

[@Zeekism]

I love them all, but if have to only choose one, itll be the blue. Nice vid, as always 👌

[@BowlOfSalmon]

thanks mate. appreciate it. blue for me too ;)

[@nextonthewrist]

Really nice seeing the comparison with the SPB143 on film, nice refinements that do make a difference. I sold my SPB a while back but these could tempt me back in. How is the end link fit? It was diabolical how much play it had on mine... Cheers 🙂👍

[@BowlOfSalmon]

better but still ... same same

[@joshn.5625]

The new case design and dimensions are beautiful. Also, people seem to be very divided on the date placement. While I hate(!) 4:30 date windows the circular window, colour matched date wheel, and vertically oriented numerals are very attractive. Very Bell & Ross, who does the best date complocations in the industry in my opinion.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Agreed on the b&r remark. I’m Not a reference on date placement anymore these days. Owning the tag glassbox 🫣

[@joshn.5625]

@@BowlOfSalmon the Glassbox date is terrible! Beautiful watch though

[@muhammadurwah1990]

Great review! Yes we want the female endlinks.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

thanks !

[@AcmeRocket]

I have the @43, these look great.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

can't go wrong with the 143

[@d.kashani]

I think this is an overall improvement but I still prefer the sunray grey dial and brushed bezel of the 143 than the black dial and matte black bezel with the circular 4:30 date that looks to be taken out of the willard. I also don’t like the “3 days”. I think the black would’ve been a nice secondary option to a sunray grey/brushed bezel. Plus my 143 is a companion to my sje093.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I can only applaud More options. Given the choice between mine or this. I would hesitate. I think the Sunray dial and brushed bezel wins it in terms of looks for me personally

[@d.kashani]

@@BowlOfSalmon exactly. i wouldn’t trade mine for this but if I was in the market and the 143 wasn’t available this is a good choice.

[@gomding1]

I agree with you. 143's dial is so gorgeous

[@camels3269]

Loving these new releases and I can't wait to add one to my collection. I'm conflicted between the black and grey/gilt dial variants. I think the blue is great too, but I already have blue in my collection. How flashy would you say the sunburst and gilt is in the metal? Thank you for the great and informative video.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Welcome. Dark marine blue. Very blue in some light. Almost black in other. but not blue blue like the fxd mn

[@camels3269]

@@BowlOfSalmon Hey man, appreciate the reply

[@philliprackow7153]

I got the last sharp-edge Presage at my local dealer a few weeks ago and that is the one that finally hooked me on Seiko... My wallet shall suffer once he gets these in.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Haha. God speed

[@1am1der]

Im ok with the date. New iso standard - new design. Its looking good, very simple.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

🤛

[@bencze465]

I wish I had somewhere to try on some of these. I am looking for a good daily watch and considering various things from 1k to 5k. This seems a bit on the smaller side. I don't have a big wrist but eyesight is not great at this point and I guess I just always had big watches (worn a lot my Mako XL before I dropped it accidentally). It does look great and I wonder if I need anything more or not. I will try to keep an eye out and try it on if I see it somewhere.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

they will be available at Ad in june

[@dissident_mantis7]

Getting a black one and praying someone makes a Jubilee for it. Black Bay Monochrome looks on a budget.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

rooting for uncleseiko & forstner ;)

[@OldPhoenixx]

Great price! They look like tudor quality wise…have a great in-house movement and are below the 1500 mark…this is incredible and seikos last a lifetime

[@BowlOfSalmon]

they could last a lifetime ;) (if we stop looking at other watches too)

[@ScottPC]

The blue reminds me of the blue Pelagos. Similar dial, markers ext...

[@pk1342]

Have they chamfered and applied mirror polishing to the edge of the bezel? It looks different to the 143. The bezel seems so have a much more defined and shiny outline. Looks great.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

case lines have been refined a little indeed

[@Anirossa]

Imagen, in 16 years we will get a 38mm 62MAS, I'm excited

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Ill be there on release date

[@ozmondos]

Thanks for the review! The diashield coating makes my SPB143 look almost grey like titanium. Is it the same with these 3 models? From the comparison in your video it looks that way.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

idk if anything changed technically , i don't think it it did, so they are identical looking indeed. thanks for watching

[@tngchinghwa]

that blue one is a nice competitor to blue BB58, but im not sure if making the clasp smaller by removing adjustable holes is the right choice

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Lifehacks right 😉

[@Zantetsukens]

Thanks for comparing each of them with the SPB143, that's really helpful! I find the new solid black dial boring but I don't like navy blue :( . I am torn between getting the SPB143 or the SPB453, or, the SPB451. Why can't they make the black one sunburst as well?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

They gotta keep us coming back for more 😅

[@jamesminshall4601]

I wasn’t a fan the time I tried on the original, probably due to the grey hues. I think this version looks great on video and I’ve loved the porthole date since I saw it on the bell&ross. I will no longer consider a watch without a date but the issue I may have with this is my ability to read it with my aging eyes.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

We can always ask Siri for the date right !? 😉

[@a_latyshev]

Last but not least, it's seems like bezels are not misaligned. So good job Seiko!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

these were all aligned properly (i just forgot to properly set some on the opening shot ...#noob error)

[@a_latyshev]

@@BowlOfSalmon it was a great video, thank you so much!

[@AX7razor]

I love the design of this watch. It’s a classic. The one thing that I don’t understand is why a 1400 Euro watch still uses a movement that operates at 21,600 beats. There are so many other brands that offer a movement operating at 28,800 beats for a far lower price. I understand that you can increase the power reserve by decreasing the beats per hour but it just doesn’t feel right. Sometimes I feel that these “prospex” watches aren’t really that pro. Other micro brands offer similar value at almost half the cost.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I think it is a brilliant watch but I do agree with most of what you say.. especially with the weight of the Seiko brand know how ...

[@thebestoffools]

I don't know why Seiko didn't go with a sunray dial on the black one but I still love the monochrome look of it. I think I'd go with that one since I already have a ton of blue watches and the anniversary edition is a bit too blingy for me. I would've liked it better if they had stayed with the same look as the SPB239.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Im sure more versions will follow

[@Baitullmaqdis]

Diving deeper Just to receive my Holy Diver 455j1... 🤘🏻..

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Enjoy it mate 👌

[@P.T-cn1io]

Any idea if the reflections are less on the new models? Also do you reckon pre-existing bracelets that fit the SPB143 would fit the new ones?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

coating/Reflection felt similar. didnt try the old bracelet on the new model .. new bracelet on the old didn't work ...

[@larrysolien9541]

I really like the monochrome Black dial version, but that new shorter clasp with only 2 micro adjustments is a deal breaker, to getting a good fit. I’ll stick with my SPB149.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Ah. These watches shine on so Many straps. An on the fly adjust would have been nice …

[@larrysolien9541]

@@BowlOfSalmon I agree, at this pricing point having a push button adjustable clasp is a must. Seiko clasp on these new SPB’s needs an update.

[@legokingiscool]

I want the blue on a brown leather nato. I hate the 3 days text.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Tip. Don’t read the text ;)

[@johanl5091]

The blue one looks good, but I still think my 143 oldest version, without the lume plot at 3 o clock is the best one ☺️ I really enjoy your videos btw ✌🏼

[@BowlOfSalmon]

appreciate you dropping in for a friendly note too ;)

[@wblackburn0316]

How is the fitment of the end links? That was a complaint I had with the 143; bracelet was okay, but for a $1k watch the end links should at least fit properly into the case!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Slightly better. Different design how they fit in to the case. Less wiggle. But still showing some gap imho

[@calebsaavedra9279]

Hey great video! My most worn watch is my spb143, but my only complaint is the bracelet. Did you say that the new bracelets are not compatible with the spb143?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

That is correct. I tried matching the new to my spb. The fit at the case is different

[@calebsaavedra9279]

@@BowlOfSalmon I might have to try out the uncle seiko bracelets then!

[@lfc7805]

Very nice leather watch case at the start of the video. Where did you get it please?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

That is from tawbury. Links in description

[@oes2546]

I would get this. But the price hikes keep going. And they still don’t offer a nice on the fly adjustment clasp. At least when they hold prices they should also make better watches with tighter accuracy tolerances (as else it’s still just a 6R as found in watches a fourth of the price years back) and better clasps on their bracelets in my opinion.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I agree some things can be done to step up the game ...

[@bayflowshow65]

Once it comes out in June, I could only imagine the struggle between the choices of spb453 and the Tudor Monochrome. And I can’t believe I’m watching a channel called Bowl of Salmon.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

It’s a tough fight between me and the poke bowls

[@mezcalycafe8702]

Blue or black for me.

[@ericmoss8344]

I'm definitely on the blue dial train!! It's a shame that Seiko still used old pin and collar bracelets w/old clasps (no onthefly macro adj) on these $1500 divers. Several micro brands put Seiko to shame in that area. Still, I do like these and may have to pick up that blue dial just to see how I like it.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I wonder why we dislike pin and collar that much tho. We only need to do the size bracelet thing once no ? And usually the ad would do it

[@ericmoss8344]

@@BowlOfSalmon maybe it's just older tech. I've had issues w/old Omega pin/collar bracelets when resizing, even using proper tools. It's just easier w/screws. You're not totally wrong though. My biggest 'issue' is the old lack of an on-the-fly macro adjust clasp given the huge price increase in Seiko's over the past 3-5 years.

[@resjon7981]

Nice watches but im waiting for a solar quartz version.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

not enough sun in belgium for that ;)

[@thefwenkmeister972]

what watch case is this? it looks great!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

🙄

[@hillbillyartscrafts4367]

I would just keep saving for a little longer and get a Tudor

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I did too. But I couldn’t let go of the spb

[@Drayjon]

Does the special edition have the blue lume?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I stupidly didnt check. Sorry

[@VibesLaCroix]

The "automatic 3 days" text ruins the dial in my opinion

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Could be worse written in seconds

[@JowcoI]

Nonsense, did the original text « dialshock 24 jewels »ruin the dial ?

[@luke90mann]

Much prefer the old one!! Don’t like all that text on the dial or the new date placement. Also I love the dimensions of the old SPB143 chunky is better on my wrist!!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

40-41 is a sweet spot for me too

[@valebliz]

that round hole 4:30 date is the cheapest looking solution to a date problem they could have ever thought of, ffs Seiko. I’m glad I have a spb239 and I’m holding onto it for dear life as long as I don’t find a cheap sla043.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Seeing more brands approach it like this lately. It hides well enough in plain sight

[@christophfacius3885]

The first Seiko I like. But a little pricey though. What about the accuracy of this model in daily use?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

My spb performed around +- 15

[@maitrehg]

The 143 is already a very small watch for a diver. The last thing I want is something even smaller.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I just got in the SeaQ date for review ;)

[@Juanjo191]

I’d this the first hands on with these watches??

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Cool right

[@ariffsukimin3275]

This model would suggest or reconfirm the discontinuation of marine master300m

[@BowlOfSalmon]

i have no intel on that

[@Spaealien]

How is the accuracy on these?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

As advertised I would hope. Dummy mvmtIn the review. Can’t say

[@EricSloferwatchreviews]

Show the watch running I can't see the sweep of the hands , the quickset, crown action ? 🤔

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I did state the watches didn’t have live movements.

[@davidmenald]

is the lume still green? I see Seiko opted for a blue tone in the new SNXS models.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

the LE had green .. the blue had blue if i'm not mistaken ... not sure about the black ... I tested it but forgot to make video ...

[@TheBimmer74]

Great new models. Seiko just needs to upgrade their bracelets. Lose the divers extension and use a Glyde lock microadjust. Also get rid of the pins and collars and go to screws.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Upgrades are due indeed

[@dude1diligence]

Spb143 has brushed STEEL inserts btw

[@BowlOfSalmon]

True. Treated so they are harder. What did I say btw …

[@dude1diligence]

@@BowlOfSalmon all good. I think i heard you saying the new has aluminum inserts. If so, I will miss the steel inserts of the 143 and its variants. Steel is simply the best insert material to me, and least used

[@a_lucientes]

Just leave the date window off one of them, Seiko ! geeze

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Selling watches could be simple right !?

[@surfer777]

Where's the Lume part?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Had to rush the video. Only had the Watches for a couple of hours. I did test it and it’s as you expect from These. Super good

[@uzeyourillusion]

Blue one easily looks the best, but I’m wondering if the accuracy will be as dreadfully poor as my SPB 143……

[@BowlOfSalmon]

even with my spb not being the most accurate of the bunch .. I still love it

[@jonconwell2491]

i wish it had crown guads

[@BowlOfSalmon]

bwah. this just looks better

[@vampyweekies]

For me, they’re perfect except for the aluminum bezel inserts, which is a 100% total deal breaker.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I bet they are coated somehow too tho.... was the 173 ceramic ? i don't have a scratch on it

[@jeromechu1532]

what is the music at the beginning?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Something licensed from Epidemic sound. Sure Shazam can tell

[@masudaharris6435]

The date window seems a bit delicate and at odds with the rest of the watch. No date would have been better in my opinion.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I’d love to see that one too

[@marshallh9]

At least these demo watches will be more accurate than the 6R55 movements in the watches. Right twice a day!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

touché :)

[@coffeeboyclips1973]

Like the blue, shame the movement has a slow beat rate

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Don’t be fooled by my footage tho. It was a dummy mvmt 😜

[@coffeeboyclips1973]

@@BowlOfSalmon yeah but it's still a low beat rate in the real thing, that's the issue with the cheaper Seiko's

[@mattstolzman]

Aluminium bezel? Chinese watches have mat ceramic bezels, and they sell for less than 200 USD with an NH35 inside. Seikos are too expensive.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Treated aluminium bezel. Prospex is a higher end seiko pricerange for sure

[@wh1chw4tch]

I don’t understand the “3 Days” text on the dial. And the date bugs me a little. Otherwise SEIKO TAKE MY MONEY. 😜

[@BowlOfSalmon]

the text lines look to be bothering more ppl.. i honestly don't know what is written on most of my dials

[@thomasparker8085]

No not until they have a no date version will this be comparable to the spb143 first gen. Close but no cigar.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

still, close

[@91lifetime23]

What about the movement?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

What movement ? Had dummy models ;)

[@Frank-qs3pe]

beautiful watches but why don't they sign the damn crown !!

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Would be a nice detail

[@hawkeye1184]

Still missing the signed crown

[@daveLin104]

Rolex are still missing the signed caseback but everyone thinks that ok for the price.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Point 👌

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Would be a nice detail

[@wanngleon1310]

without date will be a killer to bb58

[@BowlOfSalmon]

different leagues ofcourse , but great to see options in every pricepoint

[@lowersaxon]

The crystal of the brown and blue one looks fogged, really fogged.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Im waiting for summer too

[@chia-mingyang5804]

I like the look of both generations, but their movements keep me from buying one. I have heard too many horrible experiences from 6R so I don't bother to try my luck with hard earned money.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

Sorry to hear that. You are not the first to say this today so I’m not sure what is going or what the response or seiko is on the matter

[@chia-mingyang5804]

@@BowlOfSalmon Unfortunately I don't think Seiko is going to upgrade the movement soon. I do own a mechanical GS(SBGW289) and luckily it runs pretty well. But honestly I am only confident with Spring drive and quartz.

[@FightFramess]

Honestly if you get lucky these are amazing my spb143 is running within Cosc and has perfect alignment however I’ve seen many that have egregious accuracy , it’s all a luck of the draw lol

[@chia-mingyang5804]

@@FightFramess You must be a lucky guy 🤣🤣

[@ernesthetic]

The 3% rules

[@dude1diligence]

Sorry, but what is the movement powering it?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I did get that right in the video ;) 6R55

[@dude1diligence]

@@BowlOfSalmon great, thanks, i was too lazy to get to it thru the video, im sure u got it. Ah yes, the 55, i forgot about it. Oh well, still the 35 type with a couple hours more, no big difference in movement. Thanks!

[@dude1diligence]

@@BowlOfSalmon thanks for the early video of it. Frankly, it looks good. I hadnt expected it. This should be the final version for years to come.

[@gorillawear1065]

For me Seiko does not go with four digit price tag.

[@BowlOfSalmon]

In that case most unknown brands wouldn’t either. But with the Seiko name they should punch above those with prospex

[@pk1342]

Were these the same 3 watches that monochrome watches also got their hands on?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

I'd doubt that.. this was part of the benelux travel set ... but yes .dummy movements ... go figure...

[@siamadani]

complete copy of Pelagos or is Pelagos a copy of this?

[@BowlOfSalmon]

the 62mas has been around for a long time.. but I have to admit when I open my watchbox I confuse them a little too