MLM TOP FAILS #38 | Defending against being in a pyramid scheme, Arbonne rep begs for sales

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[@MKE_Mike]

Hun if you have an "upline" you don't own a business. If you can gain or lose rank you don't own a business. Business owners only have one rank: "Owner".

[@mercedescue1655]

If you work for a company you are in the biggest pyramid scheme. You work, your boss earns and his boss earns even more

[@MKE_Mike]

@@mercedescue1655 I am not in a pyramid scheme, I don't have to recruit people to in increase my earnings. People in MLMs can't advance without recruiting, I can. All of the top earner have recruited huge downlines, this is the essence of a pyramid scheme.

[@heezypeasy8611]

Chelsea Suarez said in one of her videos " if someone else can fire you, you aren't you're own boss" and that is something I wish all the huns would realize

[@xiaojunslefteyebrow]

@@mercedescue1655 it is structured like a pyramid, yes, but tell me in which non mlm company you have to continue recruiting people to join the business underneath you but still do exactly the same thing as you. Also, in a regular company it would be a really stupid move to try to find more people to sell the same product as you in the same town: if I’m the only shampoo seller in the town everyone will buy from me and I will have a very successful business but if hundreds of other people start selling shampoo in the same town too that would literally destroy my business, how is it possible that in an mlm that’s literally your goal?? How is that good??? How doesn’t that oversaturate the market???

[@dereknash5353]

@@MKE_Mike all companies recruit people that's what they call advertising, it's a billion dollar industry

[@LadySuchiko]

"They took out all the middlemen!" Nooo... They just convinced the middlemen to pay for it.

[@cc1526]

What’s more, they convinced the middlemen that they’re the owners.

[@SjofnBM1989]

right like who do they think THEY are if not middle men. If anything they added MORE middle men lmao like a lot more

[@mommy2libras]

​@@SjofnBM1989 exactly. In fact, their whole goal is to bring in as many middlemen as possible.

[@brandonbarclow3135]

This video hits home for me on 2 fronts: 1) I was in an mlm that sold wellness products to help people with heart disease. When James Gandolfini died, my up line told me to use that story as a way to get customers. So sad. MLMs and uplines have no shame. Looking back, I feel so cringy!! 2) I'm also a CPA. I left my 6-figure job to pursue a career in this MLM. Needless to say, it was a very rough year. I lost over $20K during that time. Signed up 2 people (my brother and my wife), and had zero customers. I was on the phone constantly. Worst decision I ever made UPDATE: I re-entered the workforce, and I'm blessed to have been re-hired. Everything is now back to normal. Thank God. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not fall for this crap.

[@llddau]

Taking advantage of anyone is bad, but the ones that deliberately target people ill with heart disease, cancer, mental health problems, grieving for loved ones, even recovering AOD addicts are the absolute worst. It’s unbelievably disgusting and evil.

[@brandonbarclow3135]

@@llddau absolutely evil. And I didn’t know any better. I was completely brainwashed and now I’m free. 😄

[@driskey82]

OMG SHE IS LOOKING AT THE CAMERA MORE THAN THE ROAD! OMFG!!!!!!!!!

[@dominiquebright4790]

Yay so happy for u❤

[@Tamara-ju3lh]

I'm a CPA too. Did the "own your own business" thing sound weird to you? I mean yes, you're a schedule C employee but you don't actually own the business.

[@tcort]

It’s really hard to convince someone that they’re in a pyramid scheme if their belief is that they aren’t dumb enough to be scammed. Whether consciously or subconsciously, their ego doesn’t want to accept the fact that they were scammed. That’s what makes it so hard to get people out; convincing them that they were wrong.

[@Pippa87]

This hits the nail on the head, and I think it also applies to a lot of people who are heavily into conspiracy theories.

[@Alyse_bell]

It’s also rather insulting. I don’t find anyone that got scammed to be dumb or stupid. It’s just that someone was able to convince them that it was a good opportunity or that they are acting in their best interest. To assume someone is an idiot for getting scammed is really disgusting

[@HannahAlonzo]

Yes this is a PERFECT explanation!

[@lizajane2971]

Yup, same thing as a cult.

[@DocBree13]

Great point!

[@JustAVideoEnjoyer]

theory: first rep is yelling only because she is trying to convince herself that she is not working in a pyramid scheme

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Yep, I see this frequently.

[@erinnichols4866]

Yes. Haha

[@kyutsu]

I was trained for free, got my work attire for free and basically don't have to spend money to make money, i'm a cashier. The person that trained me doesn't get part of my paycheck simply bc they "mentored" me. I legit cannot see this as anything other than a scam. They payed and pay the company monthly to advertise for them- so tell me again Hun, how is this YOUR business?

[@sarapinkandpurple]

Yes even when I worked at bath and body works I got paid for my training and to fill out paperwork. I also got free items to try out. I wasn’t forced to find people to recruit to join my team and I got paid for my time there, even when they asked if I was free to stay longer or wanted to cover another shift later that week. I also wasn’t forced to post on social media promoting BBW and when I requested time off, I would get it and wouldn’t have to work when I was on vacation. My manager wouldn’t bother me because i requested that time off. And exactly you work for the company and if you have an up line you work for people. It’s not your own business.

[@pita621]

The first clip….. she doesn’t train anyone. She’s the worst upline ever! Trust me! I know first hand!

[@tonichan89]

PAID*

[@SjofnBM1989]

Seriously the only thing I needed to pay for in my job was my shoes and I can take them with me when I leave

[@M_SC]

@@sarapinkandpurpleand everyone: those real businesses don’t do those things out of authentic real businessness , they do them because they were forced to by law, and the laws were mostly demanded by unions. (Im not disagreeing with you its just a Very important point that should be mentioned for anyone that doesn’t know .

[@whatsthekeytothekeykat]

I was so distracted by the first chick's hair bun flopping around, I kept envisioning her as a crested chicken 😂

[@autumn557]

Just the sole fact that they say “compensation plan” and not “paycheck” is alone the biggest hint that your not guaranteed pay. You can maybe get compensation. But not a paycheck.

[@JamesQMurphy]

The Arbonne rep begging for sales was just sad. I hope she has her “light bulb” moment soon.

[@laurenjimenez9015]

Her enormous engagement ring and band threw me off…

[@Cerezo.lindsey]

​@laurenjimenez9015 yeah right? She has this giant rock on her finger and yet is begging customers for money

[@emilyward4388]

I had the same reaction when she said “there’s no middle man” ….. YOU ARE THE MIDDLE MAN ma’am what?!

[@emmatfink]

Arbonne girl: I am once again asking for your financial support

[@janabomersbach4466]

She sounds like a televangelist.

[@erinnichols4866]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Kingofthenet2]

@@janabomersbach4466😂😂😂

[@alisongravelle4048]

All that, while wearing the biggest diamond wedding ring i’ve seen in my life…

[@PsychGirlRaven]

@@alisongravelle4048which means her husband isn’t struggling financially, which is why she doesn’t have to make consistent money.

[@ScarlettKay494]

“Does the company make money?” Absolutely. But does that mean the reps make money? For 99% of them, absolutely not.

[@eljayism]

"It's really sciencey and technical" when I tell you I almost fell out of my chair for serious

[@korvapuustit]

hard to still swallow the whole "people who join MLMs aren't stupid" bit

[@Cangi92]

Lemme weigh in on the frequency thing as a chemist! So she's right in that everything does have a frequency but...we only see those frequencies when radiation passes through an object. Basically every molecule has their electrons in what's called the "relaxed state". Putting radiation (i.e. infrared, microwave, UV) in causes the molecule to vibrate more and the electrons to go up into the "excited state". We can then read the frequency output as the electrons move down from the excited state to the relaxed state, giving off energy. We're not constantly giving off energy like that and even if we were...adding oil wouldn't change that in the slightest.

[@vb8801]

Thank you for this explanation! It seems like people who sell supposed frequency products have confused excited electrons with excited as an emotion lol

[@selenarajovic3117]

And even if we're talking non scientifically....my mum is into stuff like that....for example: bad words have low frequency and good words have high frequency; or positive people have high frequency (not really sure how it works but she makes sure to remind me every day to watch how I speak 😂). Anyway....I seriously doubt oil can help your frequency. And you really shouldn't put essential oil on your skin as far as I know 😂😂😂

[@PlaymatShowdown]

This is good. Clearly the oil MLM lady does not know science things.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thank you so much for this wonderful explanation Carolyn!! 🙌🏼

[@selenarajovic3117]

@@karinroten3606 I am not misinformed. Essential oils can be applied to skin, just not directly. They need to be diluted in some way, through creams or even just water. Applying pure essential oils onto skin is a horrible idea.

[@florencebastien2162]

Can’t imagine seeing someone screaming at me on Instagram and talking to me in such a condescending tone and being like “wow, I want her to be my boss so I can deal with those shenanigans every day”. 🤦‍♀️ Not good for recruiting, lady...

[@KitKat10281]

Right?! Like, can you imagine being her downline, coming to her with the "I can't afford to place a qualifying order this month" speech? She seems so mean-spirited! 😮

[@shmeblee2317]

Arbonne lady's bio..."Helping people ditch the rat race", made me laugh after she just got done BEGGING those "racing rats" for orders. Apparently their jobs are good enough to send her and 'Alec' to Mexico, for the "experience". Entitled, is entitled even if you ask nicely.

[@Beehappy76637]

Well they buy their ranks she could always purchase what she needs with one of her ghost accounts. Do these people ever price the trip and see how much it would cost just to pay out of pocket cause I have a feeling they spend way more trying to WIN this free trip. I would love to see some pricing for these common trips all these MLM supposedly pay for.

[@DocBree13]

@@Beehappy76637 I’d love to see that, too! I

[@emilyfierro7696]

Did she go to Cancun? lol

[@peggys430]

I "joined" Arbonne to help my friend. The drink mixes were so loaded with chemicals & sodium! I've already made so many life changes & this was going backwards. I tried using the "money back guarantee" & she only reimbursed me for the unused product that was unopened. In hindsight, how did I fall for it? I almost joined her in Monet, too! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Naptosis]

@@peggys430 I'm glad you're out, how is your friend? What's good, is at least you have the pyramid/MLM experience without losing too much money, so now you can spot them coming like a Hawk, I bet.

[@notoriousashley4478]

You are such a breath of fresh air on this platform. You are very effective and firm, yet kind and warm. What a kickass combination that very few possess. Great job, we love your content!

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thank you so much for watching! 🥰

[@lindaminor2872]

I totally agree!! I love Hannah’s content.

[@Libertyfaye]

Completely agree. Love this. Annnddddd I can watch you around my kids! 😍😘 keep it up girl. You are truly helping people

[@Jaci631]

I couldn't agree more; I am so happy to have found Hannah’s Channel. She helped educate me and I realized that I needed to get out of MLMs for good! Also I was able to learn about Poshmark and reselling, a side hustle I can get behind. MLMs are toxic. There are better ways!

[@DocBree13]

I agree - I wish more creators were as kind as she is - she’s smart as a whip and super articulate, too

[@Snogard45]

I felt bad opening art commissions when my kitty needed medical treatment, yet somehow huns are fine with openingly begging on social media to earn themselves a trip????

[@hippiekansasgirl1632]

As a recovering CPA, I can understand miss Deloitte wanting to leave the firm, especially during tax season - BUT NOT FOR AN MLM! I went to accounting school and we studied business entities and models - LLCs, S-Corps, C-Corps, Sole Props, P-Ships, and not ONE MLM was ever discussed. Who on god's green acre studies MLMs as an appropriate business model? At Deloitte???? BAHAHAHHAHA

[@neurotika]

My husband is an accountant (George Mason U.) and he makes a finger gun to his head every time i mention getting his CPA cert. lol. But you’re right. He said pretty much the same thing you did about MLM. Good luck recovering!

[@hippiekansasgirl1632]

@@neurotika thank you!! I let my license lapse last summer, trying to fire all my tax clients, and starting a card-making business. Recovery is slow but great!!! ☺️

[@catherinearredondo2092]

That's even more mind boggling to me because with a finance or accounting degree or background, you know how MLMs are not efficient and have major tax implications. Whoever sold her on an MLM is one heck of a sales person... almost scary good

[@SusanNicole2.0]

I know this comment is 6 months old, but I had to join the conversation anyway! I just decided last year to stop being an accountant ( I have a masters degree and CPA license and worked in tax for about ten years). I was amused by your wording- I’m recovering, too, but still in the process of trying to figure out what’s next! 😁

[@jakzine540]

@@catherinearredondo2092 Or, sadly, she just isn't very smart.

[@OB1KXB]

i love how i laughed at exactly the same moment when she said "cutting out the middle men" like in an MLM there are nothing BUT middle men

[@logicalchaos-]

Or they have to pay for marketing.... ma'am your company has free marketing thanks to you and others in your down/upline. Yeah. Your being used.

[@Elvoalven]

The first lady that was carrying her baby made me wonder, because in another video recently a former rep said that they were encouraged to have their kids there or hold their babies when they film videos, in order to show the whole “I’m a busy mom just like you!” thing.

[@PsychGirlRaven]

I’m not a busy mom. This doesn’t even register on my radar. What I actually end up wondering is hmm maybe stay at home moms are who fall For this BS.

[@LottieLaRats]

"Im my own boss!" Also her: "I have a boss that's higher than me on the ladder!"

[@daisyk8141]

I remember when I was younger, I had a friend who’s mom was deep into the essential oil thing. My friend had an allergic reaction and broke out in hives and the first thing her mom did was rub undiluted lavender oil on her skin. I just remember her crying because it burned so bad. Using essential oils to treat your children just seems borderline neglectful to me

[@SjofnBM1989]

oh my God lavender oil is a skin irritant on it's own without all that other shit. Poor kid that must have hurt so bad. and it's not borderline neglectful it is straight up blatantly neglectful

[@NextLevelxoxo]

Sad how you, someone not selling the oil - knows you need to dilute it & the MOTHER didn’t. And she sold it!!! I hope your friends mom has smartened up since then!

[@daisyk8141]

@@SjofnBM1989 I agree. She thought oils was a cure-all. So ridiculous

[@Roxy222uk]

I've studied and used essential oils on and off for thirty years and the damage these lunatics are doing to their reputation makes me hang my head and weep. Look on Pubmed. There are many papers published in reputable journals that show these oils can and do have positive effects. Like actual medical effects. However. The research is limited (you can't patent an essential oil, so who in their right mind is going to pay out millions to research one deeply?). Findings are specific and for individual, or handful of oils. I don't ever remember one for ingestion, and I was always taught that the oils were not to be ingested. The oils need to be used carefully and in measured amounts. They require detoxification from the system so care should be taken not to overload someone. There are people that should not be using oils at all. Anything that has a clinical effect can have side effects so of course essential oils come with side effects. These idiots break specific rules of using essential oils all the time. No knowledgeable person would use undiluted lavender oil on a skin condition, that's cretinous. Such a great little resource for us, and these barmpots are ruining it for everyone.

[@reidleblanc3140]

“borderline neglectful”?? That’s explicit PHYSICAL ABUSE.

[@williamho2940]

Thing is, if you are a business owner, why can't you pay for your own holidays? The fact that you need extra orders to "qualify" for a holiday sounds more like a commission sales job with quota-based incentives, than being an actual owner of a business.

[@kellyinCT09]

"There's a reason why MLMs are so successful..." 🙋‍♀️ I'll answer that! In the words of P.T. Barnum, "There's a sucker born every minute." 🤷‍♀️ (that's me, I was the sucker🤣)

[@mhong0717]

It was extra funny that the girl with the essential oils talking about frequencies even said she didn't really know how it all worked however on the screen it said "class on frequency coming soon" LOL

[@lauralearns]

I'm a CPA and used to work at a Big 4 accounting firm. She didn't study business models. And she doesn't know what she's talking about 🤣

[@lingodelfo5415]

I mean, to be fair, I do think MLM-models are genious. Evil genious, but genious nonetheless. Obviously mainly for the CEOs and their friends and family who will benefit the most. And I am not justifying the model or being pro-mlm or god forbid saying you should join. It's like in Harry Potter: "He did great things. Terrible, but great". He being whoever came up with these models and plans, obviously, not the huns

[@lexicalgap5191]

I have a business degree as well and omg I feel your pain! I was yelling at the screen, THEN IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS!

[@Tamara-ju3lh]

I'm a CPA too and have to make myself not go to Mlm stuff I get invited to. I already know I'd be grilling them half the meeting.

[@nicollevelez8149]

Ah I wish I saw this before commenting. I am also ex Big 4 and my first thought was umm no you don't and you're prob a 1st year 😅

[@Alyse_bell]

The first Hun is just flipping ignorant. To compare gender/race/age to companies just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. Yes no two companies are exactly alike but that doesn’t mean that your company isn’t a scam

[@HannahAlonzo]

Agreed! Not an appropriate comparison

[@reidleblanc3140]

the caucasity

[@ozmathegreatand]

I like to keep my vibrations private, thanks.

[@tarajh]

🤣

[@freeflyer151]

I never understood even when I was a kid how people could say it was their own business when they are selling someone else’s product. 🤦‍♀️

[@maria-aquariusunbound]

1) cognitive dissonance is strong 2) gross 3) Begging for help to qualify for a working trip? 😬 That's weird. 4) hmmm....her products aren't the only thing I'm not buying from her 5) cool story 🙄 6) second hand embarrassment 7) the only thing that's going to do is make you smell like a car freshener 8) she was quick to hit "abort mission" when she saw she was probably going to keep getting those comments 9) report, report, report, report, report 10) she won't include those expenses when she brags about getting paid 11) If you're reading this comments...... PLEASE DON'T INGEST ESSENTIAL OILS! 12) On my wedding day I clearly remember thinking "You know what would make today even better? Attending an office meeting where my boss yells at everyone to work harder".

[@tarajh]

👏🏻👏🏾👏👏🏽👏🏼

[@lorielovesbooks7315]

💯for all especially #11. Poison is in the dose and, you don't know how much that is for essential oils,

[@BloominFleury29]

Lol as someone with severe cog dis I sadly relate

[@reidleblanc3140]

I don't think you know what cognitive dissonance is (it's a legitimate psychological term) but yes.

[@mycatwilleatyou7569]

And please don't use any damn oils on your animals! >:( I've seen poisonings from ding dongs who were like "I sHoUlD pUt TeA TrEe oiL oN mY dOg"

[@melissaj1310]

“It’s our own. In-di-vi-du-al. BIZ-NESS-ES.” 😂😂😂 False. Check the agreement you signed when you joined. You do not own a business or franchise. It says it in there. Doesn’t it. You’re welcome.

[@sadrabbit53]

"That sign won't stop me because I can't read!"

[@rr-sl2is]

She’s begging because earning this trip depends on sales from preferred clients and clients, and promoting consultants in your organization, and not just volume from your organization. It shows that she probably doesn’t have many clients or preferred clients, and depends on the volume from consultants in her downline to hit her required volume. I know because I am currently in Arbonne, working my way out!

[@holliegriffin5361]

Congratulations! Wishing you the best on your journey and I hope that if you lost anything, you can recover. You’re doing amazing, sweaty xx

[@gemcorker3982]

Congrats & well done on seeing through all the bs & gaslighting! Hope you get out quickly, with the minimum of strife & haven't lost too much money in it! XOXO

[@abigailwitty4219]

That first lady gonna give herself whiplash with all that affirming head banging lmao omg.

[@mol7825]

It truly truly baffles me how MLM huns don’t understand that they are a SALESPERSON for SOMEBODY ELSE’S business. They build a “BRAND” around promoting the opportunity and products via their social media. That is not the same as having their their OWN business. The first lady literally said she is the advertisement 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@kyla8386]

One of the whitest things I’ve ever heard is “disease and depression can’t live in you if you vibrate at a high frequency”

[@KitKat10281]

The funny thing (to me) about this, is that the first time I ever heard of "vibrations" and "frequency" in human beings was a dark-skinned carribean woman on a KZbin video talking about crystals and herbs. 😂

[@breecoward2289]

That has nothing to do with her race

[@beckiehubley5798]

One of the reasons I didn't succeed at Mary Kay is I couldn't ethically push the products on people. One of the biggest sellers was the Satin Hands set. At the time it was a set of 5 products. I loved it and had bought it in the past. But then I learned I could get the same results with sugar and olive oil, and any hand lotion I liked. I learned that from Watkins lol...but it works with pretty much any oil you like. I never bought oil from Watkins. But I didn't have it in me to sell an expensive product when you could get the same results easier with things already in your kitchen.

[@pinkfeet518]

omg my mom sold Mary Kay and like, every other at home “business”. the satin hands set was my favorite as a child when she would have Mary Kay parties at the house! i can still smell the lotion right now

[@djs2182]

Love your presentation style! You have a way of exposing the toxic ideologies in a factual way while being kind. I think it’s clear you see the consultants as victims of the manipulation behind the mlm business structure. Keep up the good work of exposing the companies!

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thank you so much for these kind words! 🥰

[@MagicLights555]

"Spend $150 or more on my birthday week, and I'll gift you a shaker bottle." It's ok. I can buy a shaker bottle for $7.99 if I really need one. Even my fancy milk frother was $45; so it's more cost effective to just buy these "free gifts" than spend $150+ on MLM products.

[@gloriadell3416]

…to spend $150 on products likely worth less than $75.

[@ryleighsweet2375]

Of all the essential oils to eat, why lime?? Girl, just go buy a $0.50 lime with all that cash money you supposedly get from YL

[@eli-se4zb]

And with that lime, add a lil tequila & a sugar rim 🤪

[@Ela1337]

I wonder, do MLMs border on cult or cult like behavior sometimes?

[@mhi11]

💯 yes

[@DG_212]

Regarding the CPA, I say “Mazel too”! I’m just thrilled that no innocent people will have their taxes done by someone who thinks Arbonne’s - or any other MLM’s - comp plan is “genius”. No one deserves that.

[@karinalumen9722]

To be fair it is genius, if you have no morals and like taking advantage of people. Lol

[@korvapuustit]

there's another CPA to MLMer in the comments here, and when I say it's taking ALLLLL my strength not to go off on them...

[@minaztafazoli799]

28:33 OMG I was crocheting and as soon as she said high Frequency I looked up and our side eyes met 😂I'm laughing for the past 10 mins 🤣

[@courtneywitherspoon8584]

When she said they "cut out the middle men" I rolled my eyes so hard and said, aloud, GIRL YOU ARE THE MIDDLE MAN!! OMGOODNESS

[@marykatestevenson176]

I love how the Arbonne girl is begging people to buy from her when she's sitting there with a big ol diamond ring and nails that look like they were just done. She looks like she could just afford to pay for her own trip with 'Alec' to Cancun 💁‍♀️. Also I found it interesting she said she wanted to have him experience the community...I wonder if he has expressed doubts about what she's doing and she wants this trip so badly so she can show him it's "legit". That I am probably reading too much into though lol. Also is that the Arbonne logo barely visible behind her? Is that on her video, or up on her wall? 🤔 Ok that really may be a stretch hahah

[@oliviarichman6035]

yeah i feel bad for alec either way lmao

[@Lisa85]

Ugh that poor bride! That she spend a minute of her wedding day with a group who would drop her the minute she stops "working the business" just guts me. What's next? Closing a sale on the way to the cemetery while attending a funeral? 🙄 Boundaries!

[@nickywal]

I've seen posts from make up huns posting about how their mascara held up at funerals or a memorial sale for their granny so definitely that's next. These cults make you so sociopathic

[@HannahAlonzo]

@Nichola nooooo wayyyyy 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@HannahAlonzo]

Yeah the bride clip was heartbreaking 😭💔

[@nickywal]

@@HannahAlonzo I wish I was making it up, its terrifying how brainwashed people become to every little thing is a selling point

[@ConfidencePT]

I'm in the fitness industry in Australia. I'm qualified as an Exercise Scientist and have been in the industry for ten years. Here, Herbalife in particular runs boot camps and exercise classes. I have only come across maybe two qualified personal trainers who have been involved. The majority of the people doing this are not qualified in exercise instruction and I haven't come across any Herbalife reps that have any formal tertiary training in any nutrition-related fields. I have verified this as my city is small and it's easy to check with training organizations as to qualifications. I have encountered numerous Herbalife reps blatantly lying about being qualified PTs and nutritionists.

[@kristyrussell1748]

Hun: and no middle man! I'm not an idiot... Me: who's gonna tell her?

[@emmatfink]

I feel the frustration. I’m in user experience, and a nice chunk of my job is proving to the other departments of the company that we’re actually necessary. The difference is that 1) I have a salary and 2) we’re not scamming anyone. We’re providing valuable work to help our users use our products more effectively. 💁‍♀️

[@angelwings6186]

I actually have more loyalty to companies who offer help like you offer, especially the higher the amount of my purchase. So those other departments know nothing!

[@emmatfink]

@@angelwings6186 Oh for sure! They’re just resistant to it because it’s new and it also slows down the process. But it’s less expensive to do it right the first time than it is to fix something, just saying 😅

[@B.H.56]

I'm afraid to ask what a Bomber Bra is.

[@kurotsuki7427]

Its interesting they call it a compensation plan when pretty much all of the rest of us call it a salary.

[@lingodelfo5415]

Or a payment or something if you do gig/freelancing. That's because they only PLAN to compensate (not even pay), but never will

[@handmakingapril]

My husband always says if one person tells you that you have a purple tail you can ignore it but if a lot of people tell you have a purple tail then you might want to take a look.

[@nikkilovesbooks27]

This is YOUR business. You are in charge of YOUR business. But also I am your BOSS so I deserve to get paid on your work.

[@FenixFandango]

I laughed SO HARD when the one lady was like "people are always talking about, like, vibes and energy and high vibes... it's really sciency and technical." GIRL, NAH! It's PSEUDO-sciency 😂😂😂😂😂

[@meganmarie5]

I used to be in an MLM for almost a year and spent over $6000 to buy my own stock that I could barely sell. Once I started running out of that inheritance money, I noticed that I stopped qualifying for things, and I eventually couldn’t get the discount anymore because I wasn’t buying Enough stock. It’s also a cult. I went to all the meetings and events and they always said the same phrase EVERYTIME! “Anyone can own their own (MLM name) business. But the only reason why some may fail is because they don’t put the effort in” Well I put the effort in, but no one wanted to buy, no one wanted to join and all that happened is I lost thousands of dollars that I should’ve invested and had a shit ton of stock that I couldn’t sell. The only positive aspect of it was that I used my unsold stock as a tax write off. And then I continued to do that for three years 😂

[@user-fl9tk1fj9d]

You should send a story!

[@Lisa85]

[@primroseplants]

I work with trees and shrubs for a living (an actual living). Blue spruce does not "increase your frequency" or whatever 😵‍💫

[@kathleensmith8336]

Just reminded of Jim Halpert drawing a pyramid around Michael Scott's outline of how his prepaid calling card company investment works.

[@idkwhodos2840]

I thought this too! 😂 And the Simpsons episode where the guy says 'its not a pyramid scheme, our business model is the trapezoid!'😂

[@capercaillieskye]

To that first lady...don't worry, I won't compare your MLM to a pyramid scheme. That would be an insult to pyramid schemes :P After all, the FTC says you're more likely to make money in a legit non-product pyramid scheme or gambling at vegas than you are in an MLM :P

[@TearLilyd]

Lol with that comparison to gambling it made me think about how they do the trip to Vegas and us anti mlm people could get together and go to Vegas and spend whatever we would've to join that mlm on gambling and fun

[@Allisonsaul]

Ah yes, when someone is trying to sell me something, a defensive and condescending approach is a foolproof method 🙄

[@michellelynngarceau3851]

The lady in clip one is primed for a workout now because she did a hell of a lot of stretching! 😂

[@roycesaful]

"It's really science-y." Oh honey, that's very literally the opposite of science.... Big yikes.

[@lingodelfo5415]

Also, the way she said it, like "this is a high-frequency vibration oil" "every living thing has vibrations" So... Ummm... Is the oil alive now?.. honestly, I don't want to know, but a horror movie based on an essential oil born Alien could be a thing

[@amylin9695]

She made oils sound so MAGICAL and amazing like you can get High from them LOL I almost relapsed

[@NotARealHomestead]

I’m rewatching this, having watched it when it came out. I’m currently studying to be an electronics technician and the “frequencies” bit just has me rolling. I can confidently say that you’re correct in saying radiation is the only way “frequencies” are relevant to the human body, and even still the “frequency” would not be the main concern. Another example of them throwing words out there that they don’t even know what they mean!

[@noahyvr3739]

did she say her mlm can't be a pyramid scheme... using not everyone from the same race being the same or not all men/women being the same as her argument? thats unhinged

[@vunne9110]

Her trying to equate racism and sexism to hating MLMs was so crazy and borderline racist/sexist in itself

[@Alyse_bell]

I know, an absolutely ignorant argument. Race and gender aren’t the same as a business structure. It’s like ppl comparing having vaccine mandates to the holocaust. Absolutely disgusting

[@hjennings8835]

the claim about the hair re growth with thier mlm product is super damaging, i have alopecia and when i was first diagnosed i would’ve done anything to fix it, thankfully i wasn’t old enough to join an MLM but it’s still super harmful for people who are vulnerable with new diagnosis like alopecia. thank you for brining light to MLM’s

[@bridgetanon9030]

I put tea tree oil on a wart I had and it literally burned the skin away. Why would you EVER want that near your insides?

[@Momnpop98]

Warts are actually a type of infection that is communicable. Treatment should only be done with physician consultation for best method to use.

[@gojiberry7201]

I can feel sorry for them when they believe in their products, and when they're roped in when they're vulnerable. But lying and exploiting others has lost my sympathy. Because they KNOW they're lying. They KNOW they're manipulating, even if they try to talk themselves out of it.

[@user-id7mx6fh3n]

First woman is so bitter. The fun part is that her upline is still making money off of her and her downline even if they outrank her. Even in their stupid irrelevant examples of bosses making more money than you, if you do promote above your boss, he will stop being your boss and you will make more money, in the MLM, her upline will always be her upline and will keep making money off of her.

[@mimz1173]

This whole vibrating frequency stuff is legit scary. It’s a weird delusion shared by many people sadly

[@itsrachelschultz_]

11:32 “You don’t know until you know” SO TRUE. I was a part of two MLMs. Beachbody and Isagenix. Both “health and wellness based” I so badly wished I would’ve come across content like this first before having to learn from experience. So I came to know the hard way of first hand experience 🥴 Now I just find entertainment out of anti MLM content 😂 and just thank God I got out QUICK and didn’t waste too much time or money

[@ccw2613]

It scares me that you could be a friend with someone and they could be putting oils in your food.

[@ccw2613]

"Welcome to our home, we have some appetizers on the counter and a build your own essential oils cocktail on the wet bar."

[@colemortimer]

You joke, but I’ve walked into that dinner party 🤦‍♀️

[@kristy5258]

you have enough of these now that i can just rewatch them on a kind of regular basis and it’s all related but still general enough to be different enough to keep my adhd need for background noise satisfied. thank you 💖

[@nicolecase6119]

You’re professionalism is AMAZING! I love ❤️ your calming tone too! You’re wonderful! Keep it up gorgeous! Thank You for being such a kind young lady.

[@missamelissa84]

Why do so many of them drive while posting? This is so dangerous! This causes me so much anxiety. You're right- someone is going to get hurt doing this (if they haven't already)!

[@louiepreciado5672]

I love your work thank you for this. I don't know why I'm so fascinated by the psychology behind MLM's and cults lol. I once had a family friend try to tell me essential oils cured someone's epilepsy (which I have). I didn't even entertain that sentence and the awkward silence that followed was great.

[@MindiB]

MLMs sure do cut out the middleman-from remuneration. Amazing how cost-effective a for-free workforce can be. (And still, the products are grossly overpriced.)

[@bluebluemoon3835]

I’ve never heard someone put it this way but this is perfect, so fucking true.

[@elliek6657]

Great content as always! There were so many moments in each little video that made me feel sad for these ladies and I hope they see their way out of their mlm soon. One can hope!

[@jaszminworron257]

The last one irritates me. As you said…It’s your wedding day. You’re in a totally different world and work was literally the last thing on my mind that day. I got married in 2019 and the day was probably the most hectic day of my life. I barely ate or drank anything that day never mind trying to get on a zoom call. If joining an MLM is about time freedom and making your own schedule shouldn’t you be able to take a day (or even 10 like I did) to enjoy your special day without feeling guilty? My work was more than happy to let me take the time off I needed to enjoy my wedding and honeymoon

[@carolinam1573]

I love how empathetic you are. This is ridiculous, sad, so many things. I find these videos to be very interesting! Keep up the good work 💪

[@ashleygarrett7926]

This is the first video of yours I've seen and OMG I'm so glad you created this channel!! I've been losing my mind seeing so many of these promoters lately and I'm SOOOO glad you're speaking out against this garbage!

[@HannahAlonzo]

So happy you’re here Ashley!! 🥰

[@davekaio5934]

I feel that Ms Begging Hun is her rank by name only, Once you hit a rank, you can call yourself that rank from then on, even if you aren't hitting it anymore

[@HannahAlonzo]

Honestly this could be true!! Really hard to maintain those ranks once you’ve hit them

[@nikkiregsdesigns]

Oh my goodness ingesting oils. I never got into it. It's insane they promote that. From corporate down to the reps.

[@YourFavoriteSociopath]

Your videos make AMAZING background noise for when I get into a mega coding binge

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thanks for watching Sabrina!!

[@vanessamedina6242]

You have honestly one of the most soothing voices on KZbin right now - I listen to you while I work (an actual job from home LOL) - and it's a calming way to laugh and learn!

[@vgsuckfest1508]

The Betty White story just made me so angry inside. Few years ago, when my father died and I was in grieving process, my friend for 16 years, decided to use that grief just to recruit me to an MLM she got into few months before. In the end, I've lost a father and a longtime friend

[@jupiterdeluna6519]

Imagine working that hard only to have nothing

[@Daaaanielle]

Rosehip oil is where it’s at! £20 in boots. The best thing for the face. I’ve used it for some small injuries and when I get the flu and get all red. Works wonders.

[@bydoumbaril]

"It's really sciency and technical and I don't know all the details" ... It's the Hun equivalent of "I have this friend that you don't know about"

[@Ryan-zv6xw]

It is fascinating that watching these scam video examples, I have an impulse to look up the product being discussed. Tells me how softened up my brain is by video advertising! Good channel.

[@skylarjohnson7779]

did... did she just compare being accused of being in a pyramid scheme to racism?

[@evannacarlin4898]

you wouldn’t take a shift or join a meeting at a dreaded 9 to 5 job on your wedding day, so why would you join a monat call on your wedding? how does this promote time freedom? they’re delusional

[@Shudderetal]

How dare they bring Betty into this...

[@melissaj1310]

The Eleventh Commandment is “Thou shalt not disrespect the name of Betty White.”

[@uncannedspaghetti]

@@melissaj1310 the eleventh and most important

[@Thornspyre81]

I just found your channel and I subbed half way through due to your approach on debunking MLMs; it's articulate and entertaining. As for the whole "frequency and vibrations" silliness that has been gaining traction among the MANY credulous people since "The Secret" came out. It is demonstrably false and well, just ridiculous. It's such a shame so many people have such terrible critical thinking skills. Anyway I can't wait to dive in to your back catalogue and keep it up!

[@nativepaws8076]

Hi Hannah! I love watching your videos. I stumbled upon your channel a few months ago and have been hooked ever since. The work you do is so important and thank you so much for bringing awareness to the crazy toxic world of MLMs. These people are CRAZY! Especially the first girl you showed 😝 anyway, keep it up!

[@CHloE748]

Hmm.. Wonder if that woman got a steering wheel to the face because she was using her “time freedom” to work while driving like we have seen thousands of other Huns do.. Especially with her saying she’s going to be more careful with her life in the future.. I’ve been in a car wreck that almost killed me and my mom and Oma, literally so bad I’ve been diagnosed with severe PTSD from it, and I never said or even thought _I_ need to be more careful, since the wreck wasn’t my fault whatsoever.. 🤷‍♀️

[@_kd_]

As an accountant (not for a big public firm because I value work life balance 🤣)...I would not leave for an MLM thanks. I bet she switched because in big firms the average person works an insane amount of hours and someone told her she could have time freedom. Problem is in MLMs you have, to paraphrase what Chelsea said, you have freedom to work all the time ("time freedom" 🙄)

[@jennwhyte3837]

Your facial expressions and reactions are the ABSOLUTE BEST! 🤩🤩🤩

[@anna2skadoo]

The wedding video one.. exactly, crushing to see that-!