MLM HORROR STORIES #68 | Flooded with MLM pitches after announcing cancer diagnosis

[@lauren.13]

I remember even as a kid, when I didn't know what an MLM was, I would see those booths at craft fairs and think "Those aren't crafts, why are they here?!"

[@-_-0.0-_-]

You can always clock them a mile away: every other booth is hand painted, glass, soaps, handmade jewelry, etc....and then there's a booth full of plastic bags or professional boxes full of a product, or even something like MLM jewelry that is obviously churned out of a machine with professional signage. Really kills the vibe of the unique, handmade aspect of craft fairs!

[@kwpp7]

My local county fair used to be SO MUCH FUN because of all of the unique arts and crafts you'd find there, but in recent years it's been overrun by freaking solar companies and people selling windows and mattresses and artificial turf. 🙄

[@ekatlind]

@@kwpp7I wonder if offering a booth discount for people selling handmade crafts would help?

[@TheLondonLass]

I once went to a craft fair that had an entrance fee. We went in and most booths were MLMs so we demanded that we get our entrance fees back. I don't mind paying an entrance fee for a really good craft fair especially if it means the crafters have cheaper booth fees. I am not paying to deal with huns though!

[@ivoryhenson1285]

Omg that's a whole other level of messed up! The sad thing is, I doubt the makers got a cheaper booth fee because of the entrance fee. If anything, they usually charge more at those type of events because "that way you know there's only serious shoppers and no looky lous"

[@marymcdaniel3883]

I love how Hannah can take time off with her family while generating passive income. While exposing people who scam others using the promise of passive income and time with family. Keep it up, you're doing God's work!

[@doubleh4039]

Exactly this!

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

And it cost us, the viewer, nothing! If we want to subscribe, it costs nothing.

[@malindayoung2914]

And she really is comforting 😊❤

[@NinjaFalllow]

I was visiting the craft fair Uptown Commons last year (Indiana) and was SO PLEASED to see they didn't have a SINGLE MLM stand! I told them how much I appreciated it.

[@m0L3ify]

Now if they could just ban them from yoga studios. I tried yoga about 4 years ago and was constantly barraged by the instructors trying to sell oils and HerbaLife. So not relaxing, ladies...

[@Lizzypoohxo]

I lived in California and the fitness MLMs were a big deal! I recently moved to Arkansas and SO many people do Scentsy. They're in all the antique shops and street markets.

[@stephaniethesoprano]

@@Lizzypoohxo I went to my local flea market and there was a full on Scentsy booth! I was shocked

[@ScarlettKay494]

I’ve always loved going to craft fairs but I’ve been going to less and less because of how overrun by MLMs some of them have become. It’s especially sad that they’re taking space away from actual small business owners.

[@the_Sarahnator]

I've stopped doing craft fairs that let MLMs join in. It takes so much business away from actual crafters/small businesses who pour their heart and soul into what they do. It's really frustrating.

[@hellomynamesninooo6017]

Same but with farmers markets, at least ones not in proper country areas 😔

[@Mama_Bear524]

Ya it beats the entire purpose of them.

[@alywayart]

same thing happened to my town but with those herbalife ‘nutrition’ shops. so many places for small businesses to lease just got taken over. i try telling my mom to stop shopping at them, but im just a teen so she doesn’t listen

[@boatymsboatface3929]

@user-md7dk9cn8eof course I had to stop and look up color street! It’s hard to keep up with all the MLM stuff

[@samanthaquant7411]

Wow… even products that actually work on acne don’t work in 3.5 seconds!

[@verminter]

"...that smelled like damp lint and loose change." Damn, that's evocative!

[@acemaxwell364]

I would like to point something out as someone who went to a psych hospital. You only get out by taking your meds, cooperating with staff, talking in group therapy and individual sessions, not by taking oils and saying you don't want your meds anymore

[@maddiedoesntkno]

But if the person doing the woo-woo oils therapy can convince them (and you) that the oils help, they can make bank with the facility paying for them. I was in a place that would do that /;

[@acemaxwell364]

@@maddiedoesntkno yeah they might make money but most especially the miners want to get help and get out. You're told when you get there what behaviors will get you out. So even if they get convinced it will help there not going to be leaving and will probably ask one of the staff or the doctors why or when they can get leave. Not only that but it's quite often that if your a child put in their parents will ask how your progress has been and if there's any hope of you leaving anytime soon. They will tell you no because you're refusing your medicine.

[@maryeckel9682]

​@@maddiedoesntkno that place needs to be reported! That's against medical ethics.

[@dawnf.1703]

I looked into doing craft fairs a couple years ago and was pleasantly surprised at how many craft fairs in my area did not allow MLM’s. I was so happy for the artists & customers. I hope this is the coming trend!!

[@Thatblingbitch]

I live in NY and more and more craft fair organizers are doing this and honestly, I make a heck of a lot more money when I do these fairs!

[@dawnf.1703]

@@Thatblingbitch That’s awesome! I know how much work goes into a craft/art business. I hope you have wild success!!

[@ivanaandric5703]

I sure HOPE SO!

[@lmsmith015]

Hannah's out here curing everyone's insomnia :)

[@pu55inbootsluvr]

YES. I love the horror stories videos because I listen to them like podcasts while I fall asleep. The MLM fails videos are great but I can’t sleep with them on because the huns always seem to be yelling 😂😂

[@KlementinaWilbur]

@@pu55inbootsluvr same here 😅

[@lauren.13]

Diamond Lauren Club! 💪

[@lmsmith015]

@@pu55inbootsluvr yes haha! Plus I like to open my eyes and see Hannah's reactions lol. Also Hannah, FWIW, I later go back and watch it while awake :D

[@WonderKitty24]

I’m going to be part of a vendor market in a couple weeks. It’s ran by a Hun, and the majority of the vendor posts are about other MLMs. Not my ideal situation, I do stained glass, but it’s close to home and the price was right. Pray for me.

[@maryeckel9682]

I hope you do great!

[@mjblcmichael]

I'm sure you were a diamond in the rough.

[@DoingStuffWithDiana]

Omg that second story when she just straight up says “no”. At 30 years old I want to have that confidence.

[@carrsondramay7409]

This might be extreme but any mlm company who states their products cure cancer should IMMEDIATELY BE TERMINATED!!🤬😡 Thank you for all you do Hannah. ❤️

[@dweebicusmaximus]

No like literally. That’s not extreme that’s the basics of what has to happen to thrm

[@kikiTHEalien]

It is not the company that makes the claim, but rather - an independent contractor.

[@laur83]

it’s not extreme. they’re making false health and drug claims. which i imagine would be illegal.

[@ivanaandric5703]

Extreme??? Have you ever talked to a cancer victim or their family. They would do or pay apsolutly anything to be cured. That's not extreme. They should not only be permanently terminated but severily fined and in jail for fraud!!!

[@VapeTime79]

Not extreme at all

[@ThisCharmingBat]

I sell coffee and there’s a woman who comes to my booth to tell MY customers that she sells “healthy coffee” 🙄 She’s not a vendor at these fairs, she just goes to try to poach my customers because she’s in a MLM company.

[@mjblcmichael]

You probably don't want to say, but I'll ask. What coffee do you sell?

[@karligilbert2991]

At a craft fair was my first time experiencing Scentsy and I genuinely thought it was this woman's business. I bought several things 2 years in a row at the annual fair from her. Then I saw your content and other anti-MLM creators, and that's when I realized she was a Hun, not an actual business owner. Sucked to feel tricked but thankfully she was calm and just sold items vs recruiting me.

[@aaronlover9814]

She was calm from snorting oils all day at the fair!😂

[@Kim-vt8yr]

Even more annoying that small businesses tend to be more ethical and eco friendly as the products are handmade and aren’t mass produced but MLM products can be so unethical!

[@isabellamorris7902]

LOVE the person challenging their assumptions by doing that experiment with the parcels. Brilliant. The explanation of the results is super lucid too. Glad we've reached a point of metacommentary on anti-MLM content itself, too

[@abu_beri_mufin5648]

Does Hannah have a podcast version of this series? (On other platforms?) I feel like they would be SOOO GOOD

[@Caitlin-ds7ur]

Loved the delivery perspective. I work at a UPS store so I get to hear stories from people quitting and returning the items. I'll start to inquire about the products and if they have a horror story, they are quick to take the bait. I often think of one girl returning all of her optavia because she was hospitalized from the diet.

[@zurilyjones]

It’s funny, I was at an arts festival in a small town this weekend. Lots of amazing artisans. My husband was like “look at those knives.” I look up and, sure enough, there’s is a booth with a big Cutco banner right in front of me and I immediately thought of you. Interestingly enough, at the same fair, not far from the Cutco guys, was another booth with some really amazing hand carved knives.

[@em5091]

Oh my gosh, I noticed the whole MLM thing with fairs going on around me. Didn't used to see any MLMs taking up booths, now it's hard to avoid them. The only place that's still somewhat safe is the Ren Faire. It's hard to market that stuff as part of the theme I guess?

[@lauren.13]

Thank God, if they ever manage to infiltrate my favorite Ren Faire, I will CRY.

[@carrotking123]

Young Living invaded our local Ren Faire years ago. I guess the Thieves cleaner is actually super on brand bc it apocryphally had something to do with.... Disinfection during medieval plagues? At least that's what the dude in the bird mask hawking it (heh) to passerby kept saying. Ugh. I just want to wear my hat, get into a Shakespeare sonnet duel, pet the jousting horses, and fend off normal Ren Faire weirdos, okay???

[@Kim-vt8yr]

The first story is too relatable it’s sad! As a small business owner myself I can’t stand seeing MLM huns saying they are a woman boss and own their own business 😩 like NO you don’t you work for a business that is owned by a big money maker who doesn’t care about the down lines at all!

[@terriblehem7581]

Let us know your business!

[@anjaligirl1]

A lot of the craft fairs near me screen for MLM before accepting the booths. It is appreciated

[@mikasanala]

I counted 4 MLM booths at a small, “local”!! spring craft fair I went to this year. 😢 so annoying

[@hannahmoeller2848]

I think the weight loss coffee is Happy Coffee. I have a PhD in Chemical Biology and when I looked up Happy Coffee a few years ago, it had an amphetamine derivative in it! Amphetamines used to be used as prescription weight loss drugs but have been largely phased out due to health risks and possible addiction.

[@brucheweinberger6863]

I am trying to remember which daytime TV show was talking about it about a lifetime ago.

[@amaristhecrow7084]

Our craft fairs are still apply with pictures and one even wants pictures of the booth itself to make sure it’s attractive enough. Maybe it’s because we are kind of bordering a bunch of rural towns all together?

[@katrinas1443]

The one about the packages reminded me of how I worked at a cosmetics packaging warehouse, filling, labeling and boxing cosmetics. Without exaggeration, at least 80% of what I packaged was MLM of some sort, young living, Ronan and Fields, Nu Skin, Arbonne, Beauty counter, Younique and probably more I can't name off the top of my head. It was crazy we packaged thousands upon thousands of that sort of stuff every day. It was never enough for a story since, but it always made me think about how much was actually being bought and sold that we needed to package that much and how much was just going to waste.

[@nicholeireland7917]

I was involved in Mary kay for a year and I was pushed into getting a credit card to buy stock and I was told I couldn’t just do 600 which was my limit for my current card and I got railroaded into getting a 2000 dollar debt that I never recovered from for at least 2 years

[@baby.yogurt]

to the person from story 4, i'm so so sorry that the person who was supposed to always protect and care for you, your mom, accidentally ended up facilitating so much lasting harm for you at such a vulnerable time in ur childhood. I'm sure she never meant to, but it must still be painful. ED recovery is a such long and difficult process and I wish nothing but the best for u and ur mom as u continue to heal! u deserve to live a truly peaceful and happy life and I'm sure that u will get there, and my heart goes out to u and ur mom

[@emilyjg24]

Story 5 - I feel like she did it because she wanted to be mean. There is no way to interpret that as a good tactic. The fact she was giggling and smiling at the person’s clear uncomfortableness just shows me she only did it to be malicious tbh.

[@spunkysparks1779]

MLM people are like vampires.

[@katiefoster2169]

I went to a bridal show, and there were so many mlm people there. And companies who typically sell stuff in those kiosks in malls. It was the most harassment I’ve ever experienced in an hour lol.

[@delilaha]

"I politely sat through the presentation." We need to stop being polite for the sake of being polite. The woman deceived you, had you go to a part of town you weren't familiar with (and I assume she wasn't either because she isn't from MTL), continued to ignore your requests for information, and made you angry. Forget being polite. LEAVE!

[@NamelessGrace]

I was a mail carrier for USPS and there were way more MLM packages than I thought there would be. And that’s not even accounting for the fact that you can order most MLM products from Amazon too, so some of those Amazon packages could be MLM products.

[@CarolineNotCarolynBoyd]

My impression listening to the first story was that maybe they were referencing how some cancers are genetic in nature so you having it means your family members may have a higher risk, and maybe there are things they can do to prevent the activation of those genes? Still bogus, but that's probably what I would've thought back when I was lost in Essential Oil Land

[@humanname99]

that just makes me think how dangerous it would be if their family declined relevant exams/testing because they thought the oils were protecting them. my aunt had genetic breast cancer, and her mother was diagnosed within two years. because she knew they had the same genetic marker, she was able to catch it early and they're both healthy today. so disgusting and dangerous.

[@CarolineNotCarolynBoyd]

@@humanname99 truly chilling, isn't it.

[@janejones7638]

I went to college far away from home. On Labor Day weekend, I'd be virtually alone because most people lived close or were taking a vacation. My friend felt badly for me and invited me to her house. She made it clear that we'd be eating every meal out and there would be no food or eating in the home. Her parents were on Optavia and didn't want any food around to tempt them. Two things I remember from that time: 1. Her parents seemed to be short-tempered and almost hostile. Now I think they were just hangry. 2. She had a younger brother who was a Senior at Duluth High School. When I first met him he was obese bordering on morbidly obese. My friend told me that he had gain a lot of weight while his parents were dieting. If you tell a teenage boy he'd eat all of his meals out, good chance he's not eating super healthy food. Anyway her parents lasted about six months on the diet. They ended the diet before Thanksgiving. By MLK Day (I went to stay the weekend with her again), they'd apparently gained all the weight back and maybe more. What was sad is the son who was overweight when they started became morbidly obese. It took him several years to lose the weight. He lost the weight not by a fad diet but by using a nutritionist and going to a gym.

[@timriehl1500]

"I'm here because I was tricked into coming" would have been my response!

[@lilyobrien3264]

I’m from Canada and here we do these town wide yard sales which are super fun. I just got back from one and I saw yard sale MLM yard sales using it like a craft fair booth. It was really frustrating

[@iamdeannadeanna]

My apartment complex has started hosting these Sip and Shop events once per month in the lobby. I went last time and there were 9 vendors. 6 of which were MLMs. I will certainly not be going back.

[@carolsummers8734]

I guess easier than going door to door for the sellers.

[@nitarose44]

I went to a "craft fair" with my mom about two months ago. I'd estimate it consisted of about 80% MLM booths. Every time my mom started to approach one and point something out to me, I not-so-subtly noted my disinterest because they were MLMs and that they didnt bring any crafts. If those Huns looks could kill! LOL I doubt my mom will invite me again and that is OKAY with me.

[@amandacro83]

My moms friend became friends with a neighbor. They met my parents a couple times. One day they asked if they could come over and hang out. My mom thought it was weird. They came to sell Amway. Luckily my mom always knew MLMs were a no no. Lol

[@m0L3ify]

A High School friend of mine joined a popular beauty MLM. She was exceptionally smart in school and had become a dentist, but for some reason she fell hook line and sinker for this company and started selling on Facebook. She'd post these before and after pictures of eye cream and it was SO OBVIOUS that she'd just changed the lighting to 'remove' her eye bags, but she seriously thought people would buy that it was the eye cream.

[@lbh4113]

I was afraid you were going to say she quit practicing dentistry for it!😅😮😢😊 Glad she didn’t!

[@creationslandscapedesigns]

Here in California when you apply for a booth at a craft fair, you have to submit photos of what you are selling and you go through a vetting process. You have to be a legit small biz owner.

[@daphnereal3129]

I'm in cali too and do anime events. They aren't always screened :(

[@creationslandscapedesigns]

@@daphnereal3129 oh

[@daphnereal3129]

@@creationslandscapedesigns Thankfully the huns haven't invaded those events yet! 😂

[@creationslandscapedesigns]

@@daphnereal3129 phew 🤣

[@xaccecil3652]

@@daphnereal3129 I hate to break it to you but I went to an anime convention not too long ago and the first booth I saw upon walking in was Mary Kay.

[@rgoonewardene380]

I just feel so sorry for the people who sent some of these stories. Also, I’m in my mid 40s, and I would be quite upset, if someone put me on the middle of a room full of people, and started pointing out everything wrong with me.

[@TaylorX3]

One of the signs to me that someone really knows "how the business works" is when they switch mlm companies. If the business actually worked as advertised then there would be no need to bunny hop companies.

[@emb_ivy]

I'll watch each video while awake and replay it later to help me go to sleep. Hannah you definitely help!

[@katiescollection6707]

I think that weight loss coffee might be from It Works! One of my high school acquaintances was in It Works for a bit and there were a lot of posts about 'keto coffee' to lose weight. Also, I have a concerningly similar story to the first one, working a booth for a legitimate small business at an MLM-dominated craft fair, having to fend off recruitment/buying stuff from the women selling MLM products, and watching people walk in, see the MLM booths, and leave. I loved doing expos, but holy hot damn that was an uncomfortable weekend.

[@carolsummers8734]

Caffeinated coffee does help with weight loss but one can drink any brand.

[@yogabeantt]

I think organo gold is also a weight loss coffee mlm

[@VioletFoxisms]

I totally forgot that I signed on to be a Farmasi rep during covid 😅 I didn’t sell a single thing.. though I didn’t really care to try at all.. I thought it would mostly be fun to wear the makeup but didn’t want to waste money on inventory that might or might not sell. I went back and checked out their products just now.. and holy crap! You made a point in another video that MLMs start selling other products they don’t specialize in.. Farmasi, a brand I associate with makeup and skincare, now sells candles, coffee, and weight loss powders. 🤔 🤔

[@mothwings8795]

You've got me conditioned to see these uploads on Monday - I had a dream last night where I was dealing with someone trying to pitch me MLM stuff. It was a nightmare.

[@trickedbykathycat5250]

I went to Costco last week and I was shocked to see a Cutco stand. I am confused why an MLM company is selling at Costco.

[@crystalrspencer]

So I had someone in my old workplace that was selling "it works" and was going around and made people buy crap from her. I got pulled unto that crap to where I felt like I couldn't say no. I tried that coffee. It was GROSS and made me sick. On top of that I had to pay for a 3 month's supply before I could quit. It was something like 80 dollars a month. After that she got upset that no one was renewing or making new sales. That 80 dollars was the cheapest thing they had.

[@ShugBugSoaps]

I have a small business and this exactly is how so many markets are going now. I’ll look for markets that require 90% of products are made by the artisan. I had a neighbor vendor (who was an MLM) come into my booth once, pointing to my displays, tables and table cloth asking “did you make these?!?” I just smiled and said nope… but I did the product I’m actually selling. Let me tell you about it. 😂 She bought several items.

[@doubleh4039]

Hannah, thank you so much for these on Monday. This is the best to help with the Monday doldrums while sipping coffee :)

[@MariaD-bn5bv]

Ahhhhhhhh my Monday can start once again!!!!

[@jenisalwaysreading]

Same! I cook dinner and eat it while watching/listening to Hannah and Monday feels weird without it 🤣

[@AtlasAdratica]

Same!!

[@MariaD-bn5bv]

@@jenisalwaysreading I clean the house because ain’t my time zone I receive the video at 9am and Monday is my day off from work…. It’s heaven haha

[@angelac2870]

Thanks for helping me fold my laundry

[@the_world_of_marketing]

I also use your videos to sleep, not because they are boring, they are not, but because your voice is so pretty

[@brendenbutlin5956]

Hannah saving the day! I was so sad not having anything i really WANTED to listen to while i work, and then here you pop up.

[@archangel5395]

She's always here for me when I need something to listen to while I eat the frog of the day ❤️ Very thankful!

[@MissShembre]

It is uncommon, but fairly common, for craft fairs and conventions to be juried rather than first come first serve. I focus more on artist pop ups, so I don't run into the MLM issue, but I follow a couple groups that post their events asking for vendors, and quite a few times I've seen comments similar to "Do you have a [Scentsy, other X MLM] seller booked?"

[@HeyHonHorror]

Story 2: this reminds me of so many product demos we were taught for our Amway meetings. Many of them were spectacle over substance, like the way we would put iodine in water, ruin a tortilla, then show how Vitamin C "fixes" it to "prove" the vitamins will protect your cells.

[@MelissaModsMetal]

I think probably the most alarming part is thinking how many young impressionable girls also may have grown to have an unhealthy relationship with food because of the 'health and wellness' ones😢😢

[@mychemicaldante]

Hi! I'm the person who wrote in and I thought I should shine a light on the fact that I'm a man. People tend to think eating disorders are a woman's issue but I met a lot of adult men in my treatment alongside women. Every type of person can develop an eating disorder and it's important we recognize that and stop treating boys poorly as well.

[@schrdngrskat3847]

I'm glad you had the courage to speak out, and I'm sorry you're having to deal with that. People definitely do not tend to be as understanding with boys and men and their feelings and insecurities, and they don't realize that makes can develop eating disorders as well. I'm glad you were able to get treatment, and I hope you are doing well!

[@GlassShark86]

At the craft fair: everything changed when the fire huns attacked.

[@engelaventer8644]

Love your outlook on MLMs and the way you never blame the victims ❤

[@isirlasplace91]

I've had that happen when I was part of an MLM and my recruiter wasn't happy😂 I didn't get why the organizers stuck us in the worst spot but I get it now and I love it!!🤣 4:44

[@debymello4756]

S2 made me cringe partly because I've been the "shower drain face" teen, and my goodness, if anything said it was the "acne be gone" type of thing, she would buy to use on me, even after the first handful didn't work and with me, relatives and doctors saying "it's not a concerning problem, it's a puberty problem". I didn't even think about it much, always knew they were normal, but later on I started parroting what she said about my skin and thinking it mae me ugly because of the goddanm fixation. After they started only coming around my periods years after that fixation stopped that she went "look, your face is so much cleaner" and I went "it's because I'm not 13 anymore, mom". Acne is not pretty but c'mon, it's not necropse either. S4 with S2 and others from before made me wonder what's with parents becoming obcessed with their pubercent children's "good looks". I mean, do adults get amnesia after they become parents? Everyone is kinda weird looking in their early/mid teens, those who aren't are exception, not rule, so why so much fixation. I know it often comes from fear of bullying, but... *everyone* is kinda weird looking during puberty, so insecurity makes the easy target more often than the odd thing itself, so why put it in their heads?

[@razzledazzle5933]

As someone who had horrible acne as a teen, and experienced similar "Look at all of her pimples on her skin!" moment, this was horrible. It took me a while to move past that one.

[@craftyasonline]

Every year my friends and I put on a holiday a craft bazaar and we have a very strict no MLM policy. We've had to update our language to include "network marketing" and the other "we're not an MLM, we're a _______" attempts to sidestep these bans. We have been duped before, but nope, not again.

[@ang.ali111]

I’m a small business and attend markets. Most of the markets I have done the contracts say no MLM or direct sales companies. Butttt recently I did a market that did allow MLMs. I was surprised but it didn’t seem to hinder my sales.

[@votebarbie8445]

Possible motives of the incidents mentioned in story 6: Grooming and/or “Pester Power” (AKA “The Nag Factor”). Or perhaps desperation to reach some Cold Call Quota on that Bingo card.

[@janabomersbach4466]

My sweet Mother-in-law was always purchasing miracle cures from MLM’s. As bad as that was, she had no time to become a rep due to running 2 businesses of her own, having a part time job, volunteering, and raising 6 kids she wasn’t ever recruited as a rep.

[@samanthaconk6574]

It may not be that theyre saying that cancer is contagious, as someone who had a parent with cancer, everyone in the family is scared of getting cancer and the affected person fears for their family as well. They may just be using that fear to capitalize on how scared everyone was to “prevent them from getting it too”

[@muuuune]

I'm having such a hard time with markets, myself. I haven't made much but the MLMs are always there.

[@severalwolves]

33:44 I mean, tbh that sounds like a pretty funny prank, bringing someone to an MLM seminar with no warning. I think I’m with tasha on this one haha

[@orphanblackops]

Regarding the first story about the oils stopping the family from getting cancer, maybe they were saying if they took the oils, it would stop them from getting any cancer in the future.

[@elizabethwillis885]

I agree that you have a voice that doesn’t stress a person out and could probably help with sleep. My kids watch KZbin videos and some of them are always yelling or screeching. It’s awful. And then sometimes there are youtubers that have very fake sounding voices. I can’t handle that either. Your voice is good because you aren’t trying to change her voice and you aren’t yelling. So keep up the good voice work! KZbin needs it.

[@maryeckel9682]

She's like the opposite of Jessie Lee Ward.

[@alondraprietomartinez]

Love that you’re quickly approaching 100K 😊 you really deserve it!! Hope motherhood is treating you well ❤ Edit: Praying for that cancer to disappear by the end of the year!

[@janejones7638]

Me too. Once you hit a certain figure your channel starts to blow up. I love Hannah's humor and I think she'd make a great teacher when she decides to pursue her career.

[@kenna.b]

My first year doing craft fairs was spent finding the best ones to do where they were juried with only handmade items. I went to 9ne last year for winter that was terrible I barely made back the fee which was expensive. Was sat in front of an mlm so they scared off all my customers. I was soo mad I was also sat next to another candlemaker which hurt my sales even more. I now know that the event organizer is an oil hun and know to avoid it like the plague.

[@katrinaa980]

I do craft fairs and a lot say no mlms or network marketing on their application forms 😊

[@daftoptimist]

With the psych hospital essential oil thing, and the high school band Origami Owl thing, I wonder if these are huns who are just in so deep with the brainwash and the urge to be a product of the product, that they just genuinely think this is the best thing they have to offer to people going through a hard time?

[@brucheweinberger6863]

The woman that runs Orgami Owl now has a KZbin channel and is currently pregnant and milking it for all she can.

[@ilay2767]

Not me trying to understand what a Men Love Men company is 😭

[@ciellan6615]

Hahaha first time I came across MLM I thought the same 😂

[@rebeccaschnepp4080]

I work at a distribution company that ship package... I laugh every time I see a MLM box... I think the two I seen for the most part are Mary Kay ( very pink boxes with the name) and Pamper Chef ( has the logo high comes in different color)... and it is like a lot of them I think I can easily see 30 in one truck.

[@Onlycozythings]

The last story can go either way. I know that aroma therapy is used in psych hospitals to introduce a coping skill/tactics (used with meditation and yoga). Unless an employee was doing things under the table, there is no way to take patient info without the risk of violating HIPAA. Might’ve been a pushy activities therapist. It should not be used to treat “ailments” or their symptoms but more so a grounding technique. But who knows what people are up to these days

[@mjblcmichael]

Hannah, i always make sure to drink coffee before a meal. It does increase stomach acid. I never have a problem, so long as i only drink it before a meal... like half an hour or so.

[@kwpp7]

That story with "Tasha" reminds me of how my mom and I received an invitation from a former neighbor of hers, asking us to join her for a quaint gathering with a few girlfriends to have some tea and catch up... 😏 There was a major accident on the freeway and after sitting in nearly two hours of bumper to bumper traffic, we arrive to find the house jam packed with women and MLM displays all throughout the living room and even poolside! LuLaRoe, jewelry, vitamins, essential oils, diet drinks, you name it. My mom is on a fixed income and doesn't have much by way of disposable income, but she was being massively pressured to buy a top that was like $40-something. She repeatedly refused and after awhile we were genuinely PISSED when we realized what this was really all about. A couple other women were disgusted as well and we just left after about a half hour.

[@hawaiianshirts4715]

6:22 As a cancer survivor myself, I can tell you that, yes, some people do believe that cancer is contagious. And when challenged about their claims, it always seems to be some anecdotal "evidence" that comes from a friend's cousin's former-roommate.

[@shesforgivennfree]

I dated someone who's mother used the herbalife stuff. I don't know why she was taking it, all i remember was her husband had died and she took to her bed and never got back up until she went to the hospital and died. I remember hearing that she had bags of the herbalife stuff. I had no idea it was an MLM as far as i know she didn't sell it.

[@ashleydavis2355]

My local craft fair has completely taken over our middle school for 40 years. The last ~15 years or so have seen MLM booths in increasing numbers every year. This past year a new teacher took over the fair and the MLM numbers were at least half of what they were in 2023. Idk if it was intentional on her part or if the number of huns has decreased in our area but damn it sure was nice to actually see CRAFTS when you walked into a classroom instead of shitty wax melts or Tupperware. Don't get me wrong, they were there. Just not nearly as many. And there was only 1 Scentsy rep but probably half a dozen with handmade candles and stuff so I'll call it a win

[@asdfghjklazyy]

Story 3 - I wonder if MLM awareness has resulted in a significant decrease in people signing up to sell, but maybe not as strong of a shift in BUYING from these companies? I feel like everyone and their mother now knows you lose money & practically sell your soul when signing up with an MLM… but maybe that awareness doesn’t extend to why you shouldn’t purchase from MLM’s? Morally, people may fail to understand that just because they’re not selling for an MLM, buying from MLM’s still supports the scheme, even if you’re not directly partaking in it.

[@maryeckel9682]

You might be on to something.

[@alyshamitchell8992]

I bet the one girl didn't get invited to dinner because her friend knew that she would probably figure out what the meeting was about during dinner and leave before the presentation.

[@labachaterairlandesa]

If she shows up after dinner, right before the presentation, there’s no chance to chat up the other attendees or ask any questions.

[@nyandmu]

Theory: MLMers dont look themselves in the mirror and thats why they stay in their MLMs.

[@Pipkiablo]

I saw a bumper sticker on a car window a couple of days ago that was advertising Mary Kay, and my immediate thought was, "That woman is going to regret putting a sticker advertising a pyramid scheme on her car window in a couple of months." That's what I immediately thought of during that story of the person for the shipping company thinking no one's really falling for it anymore.

[@thebosshouse]

Not really a horror story, but my partner's twin went to a Mother's Day event at her church and a lady was giving out Mary Kay gift bags full of personal care items. I ended up with a foot mask, foot scrub, shave/shower gel, pumice stone, and two lip balms. It was all full sized products in branded gift bags, so I can't even imagine how much she spent on all this. 😬

[@carolsummers8734]

My daughter and I like to go to yard sales. You can always tell a MLM home by all the products at their sale. Mary Kay is one of the most common.

[@thebosshouse]

@@carolsummers8734 Yikes! They're definitely not even getting their money back like that.

[@fishtick]

OMG hannah! i got a vector letter in the mail and immediately thought of you! very creepy of them, but im throwing it away as we speak.

[@andreakokko5246]

As a teenager with acne that would have been so humiliating and painful to experience. How dare that hun!

[@paigegraton1443]

Thankfully most of our craft fairs out here are still pretty heavy homemade less MLM but a few show up every fair

[@fantasticmio]

Hannah Alonzo: the Bob Ross of Anti-MLM

[@mariavilla7613]

The last story. I was in a psych hospital a few times as a teenager and twice as an adult for ptsd and PPD. We also had a yoga "class" for the teens, it was a 30 min class but for the first 15 min it was "yoga" (I was in dance at the time and it was pretty much just stretches you usually do before a workout. And the last 15 we sat and talked about oils and their benefits. She'd pass around little roller sample size oils and then asked us what our "ailments" were and she'd give us a specific oil and told us to rub it in real good and smell it as if we were meditating for it to work properly. Afterwards on our third class she gave us a paper that had essential oils and what they work for. It was a random website print out lol

[@maryeckel9682]

That's so unethical

[@myblueheather8240]

Do you think it was just an "aromatherapy" teaching session or was it an MLM hun trying to get clients?

[@mariavilla7613]

@@myblueheather8240 honestly not sure, I think the essential oils were young living samples when I looked them up but I dont remember if she ever gave us a card or not I know she gave us the print out with a couple of other things

[@DetsCrissy]

I been trying to figure out the coffee MLM name for like 15 years now! I have friends who have sold it for that long! They also have a car "benefit" and rewards similar like Monat.

[@bhskhs2010]

I’m curious how much of those packages belong to the reps themselves

[@kristinabava8718]

I'm going to get an anti MLM t shirt to wear to these types of events to. Once the fall hits I am a festival junkie! All the arts and crafts 😍

[@taylorslade961]

I participate in craft fairs and every single one I've been to has been exactly like what OP called "lower quality." Only one has denied MLM huns entry, but they were allowed to set up in the flea markt portion of the event.