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Soft 4 Taeng

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@jihyediorৎ
@jihyediorৎ Жыл бұрын
the wonhee one is SO true omg.. like she gets d3ath threats just because she’s so " talentless " yet they never shut up about " protecting minors " well guess what, wonhee is a minor aswell. they obviously don’t actually care abt protecting minors when they go around saying all that abt wonhee.
@Newteenewjeans123
@Newteenewjeans123 Жыл бұрын
I don’t get it, how do they feel after threatening a literal minor.. it’s a horrible mindset to have tbh
@etherealstrawberry9873
@etherealstrawberry9873 Жыл бұрын
i get why they wouldn't support her debuting but threats??? some of yall need to have your internet privileges taken away...
@gvynkii
@gvynkii Жыл бұрын
its literally giving the garam situation, they dragged her to hell and then 1 week later and they are all acting sad.. so disgusting.
@user-mc4ju4r
@user-mc4ju4r Жыл бұрын
@@gvynkiithe Garam situation was different but I understand what you mean
@armyswhoblinkonce2711
@armyswhoblinkonce2711 Жыл бұрын
@@user-mc4ju4ryea but still harán was a minor with a situation involving minors they shouldn’t have been harassing either party
@l0vyy._.l1a
@l0vyy._.l1a Жыл бұрын
what people should understand is that wonyoung is the IT girl IT girl means to have an impact on almost anything and you can clearly see that even when wonyoung ate a strawberry it went VIRAL her impact is literally crazy no matter if *YOU* hate or love wonyoung she is the 4th gen IT girl
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
No idol in 4th gen gets people as mad as Wonyoung does by just breathing, that’s how you know she’s the it girl
@l0vyy._.l1a
@l0vyy._.l1a Жыл бұрын
@@soft4taengeven a small action of her would go viral in seconds like is that not enough to prove that she is the IT girl
@tolanisimpson5360
@tolanisimpson5360 Жыл бұрын
​@@l0vyy._.l1a YEAH!!! Wonyoung is THEE IT GIRL of 4th generation Kpop!!
@sangwoossnacc9959
@sangwoossnacc9959 Жыл бұрын
The funny things is those haters of Wonyoung are much updated on her activities etc. like be for real you guys are just jealous 😂
@soaa_stay9932
@soaa_stay9932 Жыл бұрын
For real! She influences people positively and inspires them (including myself).
@annamann8659
@annamann8659 Жыл бұрын
Also the yunjin thing, I always thought her saying she was changing The industry was part of the Lil Se fearless concept. I didn’t realize fans were actually taking it. Seriously that’s so ridiculous.
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
For real like she’s just a normal girl, why are you expecting her to do the impossible 😭
@Bbb.anana6
@Bbb.anana6 Жыл бұрын
stoppp cause I actually thought she was going to pull a gidle and be promoting like my body my choice and stop sexualizing and all that yk then I realized oh she can’t exactly change the kpop industry can she😭😭😭😭
@gamerxarmymultistan
@gamerxarmymultistan Жыл бұрын
​@Bbb.anana6 will she had done some things like oped lgbtq+ support, and the song I ≠ doll. She had only recently debuted so it's hard to compare her to a group that's been in the industry for half a decade
@4m3mory
@4m3mory Жыл бұрын
@@Bbb.anana6 even so, it's just songs. itll spread msgs but never be enough to change the entire industry
@Bbb.anana6
@Bbb.anana6 Жыл бұрын
@@gamerxarmymultistan trueeee
@abookonlife
@abookonlife Жыл бұрын
I remember people saying wonhee should end up like sulli and editing pics as if she passed away and seeing those things was disgusting! Who would want to take the time to do such a horrible thing? Honestly kpop fans can be so embarrassing.
@NotAnotherAccount735
@NotAnotherAccount735 Жыл бұрын
what the actual hell. The company has to do something for that
@serinemadoui8675
@serinemadoui8675 Жыл бұрын
yk I was pretty frustrated when she debuted but bro wtf, death threats are literally illegal the company has to do smth abt it
@abookonlife
@abookonlife Жыл бұрын
@@serinemadoui8675 ikr
@aerinovastar
@aerinovastar Жыл бұрын
Wtf
@SamEricLlort
@SamEricLlort Жыл бұрын
I hope Wonhee end up like Sulli. We don’t need more talentless ugly people.
@vangyul
@vangyul Жыл бұрын
It’s not brands that should make idols famous but the opposite, finally somebody said it! This makes me think about newjeans that got crazy brand deals with some of the biggest brands like gucci when the girls had not even been around for a year. The brand gave the girls more exposure than the girls could give the brand which is not how it works normally.
@Kat-b4r
@Kat-b4r Жыл бұрын
also i heard some of the brands didnt even acknowledge them as BA...like no official post abt them choosing that member as BA...only hybe posting them as BA ....even dior i think deleted the post acknowledging one of the member as BA...well thats wht i heard all this really makes us question that is it really diffiicult to get big brands? or do they even mean anything today....
@SamEricLlort
@SamEricLlort Жыл бұрын
New Jeans slept with people to get those brand deals.
@yoon9521
@yoon9521 Жыл бұрын
I have worked in marketing and advertising before, and just to set things straight - some fans love to defend idols by saying that brands are the ones offering idols the opportunity to be their ambassador but it's not the case for most. Agencies actually approach brands with deals and promises that the brands will be featured in all sort of medias they have connections with, it's a two ways street. I think the case with Newjeans is like that, ADOR/HYBE offered the brands with exposure through their connection with the industry and media, that's why ADOR always released the news that their idols became ambassador before the brand
@hellofromtheotherside5728
@hellofromtheotherside5728 Жыл бұрын
​@@SamEricLlortyour dad
@SamEricLlort
@SamEricLlort Жыл бұрын
@@hellofromtheotherside5728 New Jeans probably did it with your dad and grandfather.
@dollydoie
@dollydoie Жыл бұрын
Another thing is, just because you want your idols to become the "it" girl doesn't make them an it girl. It girl depends on influence and Wonyoung has it, she is always trending whether it be bad or good. It girl is someone who cannot leave your mind or is the first person who comes in your mind when a certain keyword is mentioned, like when you say princess automatically Wonyoung comes, same for strawberry, expression, everything. Wonyoung is the IT girl and will be the IT girl.
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
yeah for example simply going viral on twitter doesn’t make someone an it girl and kpop stans should start realizing this
@jihyediorৎ
@jihyediorৎ Жыл бұрын
fr bro I saw someone saying heejin from loona was the 4th gen it girl.. no hate but half of kpop Stan’s don’t even know she exists
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG Жыл бұрын
@@soft4taengthisss cus why do people think cus the idol go popular they are the it girl. Like people were saying newjeans is the new wongyoungs cus they are popular now 💀💀💀
@snsjsjs-lk2hz
@snsjsjs-lk2hz Жыл бұрын
I think newjeans are really popular rn. I took a break from kpop but I still couldn't escape them. I think none of them are it girls because they are promoted as a group and when you think of newjeans you don't think of one member but all of them. I think wonyoung is different because she's treated like a soloist but she's in a group. When you think of I've you automatically think of wonyoung.
@fireflieer2422
@fireflieer2422 Жыл бұрын
@@jihyediorৎtrue!
@kaaynn-rn
@kaaynn-rn Жыл бұрын
Wonyoung is amazing. The fact she is so good at everything that people will hate her on everything and anything is both stupid and impressive. How does one garner such a hateful following is beyond me, but she’s killing the 4th Gen game and doesn’t seem like she’s gonna let go of the It girl title anytime soon.
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG Жыл бұрын
Right and I’m so excited for the mini album cus hopefully we get more of the vocals she be hiding cus im not letting go her vocals in eleven I want to hear it again 😭😭😭
@Terroroki
@Terroroki Жыл бұрын
do i think wonhee was the right fit for the group? no. do i think she should’ve beat chanelle? no. but i also don’t think that wonhee deserve that amount of hate. she honestly seems so sweet and genuine and like you said, shes young, so she has so much room for improvement. it’s unfortunate that the show was the way it was but we can’t change it so there isn’t really any reason to complain anymore 🤷🏽‍♀️
@SamEricLlort
@SamEricLlort Жыл бұрын
If people complain enough then that hag will end up like Sulli. Hoping for the day to come.
@jocelynfrierson
@jocelynfrierson Жыл бұрын
I remember when Izone disbanded and people were so mad, begging for them not the disband😂 y’all knew they weren’t gonna last for at least 7 years. This is why I don’t stan project groups
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
It’s so annoying seeing some people stanning every project group that debuts even if they handle disbandments terribly. Just don’t put yourself through that, it’s that simple 😂
@pix1943
@pix1943 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Kep1er is in the talks for a renewal. It doesn’t apply to all project groups.
@multifan6679
@multifan6679 Жыл бұрын
​@@pix1943tbf, izone also had talks of a renewal but 2-3 members/their agencies blocked it as far as I know. Considering Keplers management and lacking success (compared to previous produce groups), I don't see the renewal to be very likely
@pix1943
@pix1943 Жыл бұрын
@@multifan6679 I thought Izone never had any renewal plans cause of the scandal with the show being rigged? Didn’t they only agree to continue until the contract is up?
@wavzone
@wavzone Жыл бұрын
Most people weren't mad they were disbanding, they were mad that they weren't given an extension for their last album & as compensation. IZ*ONE was meant to have 6 albums and they were only able to do 5 due to covid setbacks and the rigging black out. The girls themselves were hinting towards an extension during One-reeler promotions, so a lot of people assumed they'd be given some extra time to finish their "One" trilogy, as well as other schedules. When they were announced to disband early, everyone including the girls were shocked because it was pretty clear they were in talks/in an agreement to continue for a few months more. WIZ*ONE knew IZ*ONE wasn't permanent and nobody was shocked when they disbanded, it was the circumstances in which made people mad about it. Idk why non wizones love speaking on their disbandment when they weren't even there to see what actually happened. WE ALL knew they were disbanding.
@chuutina
@chuutina Жыл бұрын
poor wonhee, and honestly i agree with number 5 like hybe is doing fine with le sserafim and new jeans idk i feel like the new group won’t get a lot of attention. Le sserafim remixes were crazy 😭
@ally-22
@ally-22 Жыл бұрын
are yall stupid? how do you not understand that hybe has multiple labels under them that NEED multiple groups inorder to survive
@cherrymoee
@cherrymoee Жыл бұрын
EP&TBW is one of my favorite Le Sserafim songs cause they’re my ults anyway but it was so heavily over promoted it got annoying at some point
@sangwoossnacc9959
@sangwoossnacc9959 Жыл бұрын
That lesserafim remixes are so annoying, once is enough. multiple remixes isnt necessary
@Rabiana.
@Rabiana. Жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!! I hate when people say this and that didn't deserve the award while the criteria is in front of them. If you actually care, instead tweeting about award shows being rigged, stream your faves so they might find a chance to win.
@Useri77u7u7
@Useri77u7u7 Жыл бұрын
The brand deals one is SO true but also the brand is supposed to promote you in a way; for example hapa Kirstin literally has put wony in every street, bus, billboard, etc. meanwhile miu miu has posted wony in their ig like 4 times and wonyoung promotes the brand. (Ig the promo rly depends on the brand and how big is it if it needs promo or not) Which brings me to my next point on how freaking influential wonyoung is. Miu miu hasn’t promoted her much but MOST of us will think about wonyoung when miu miu is mentioned. She’s insane.
@via45
@via45 Жыл бұрын
No no no. The brand is not promotong wonyoung 😂 they are using wonyoungs face to promote their brand name, thats why she is the best at what she does. Her posta of the brand is usung her influence to promote the brand.
@Useri77u7u7
@Useri77u7u7 Жыл бұрын
@@via45 using her face on billboards, putting it on the streets, on buses, on trains.. and u still think that’s not promo? Yeah ofc it’s for the brand but it’s still promo
@aleshanee
@aleshanee Жыл бұрын
i'm so glad you mentioned the wonhee hate
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
It’s like the Wonyoung hate train all over again, i genuinely hope people will just leave her alone as time goes by, she’s way too young to handle this
@tolanisimpson5360
@tolanisimpson5360 Жыл бұрын
​@@soft4taeng Exactly!! Kpop fans swear that they care about minors yet attack Wonhee, Leeseo etc. Hypocrites.😒😒
@Thispotatolikekpop
@Thispotatolikekpop Жыл бұрын
The reactions of fans to the r u next lineup actually disgusted me. Like I get being upset your fav didn't debut, but attacking the other girls. Maybe my opinion isn't valid since I didn't actually watch the show so I don't know who deserved to debut but I think I can say that stans are overreacting. Did we really not learn anything from the past?
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
Literally disgusting especially considering the young age of all the contestants, nobody should get such backlash at that age…but then you best believe those haters are gonna scream about how minors must be protected, as if they weren’t the same people attacking them just for debuting
@Eunwoo29409
@Eunwoo29409 Жыл бұрын
These are objectively the truth rather than just a opinion good job
@nurtiny1024
@nurtiny1024 Жыл бұрын
Key from Shinee himself said he saw a difference in different song’s music charts comparing challenges vs without challenges, so it’s definitely a business thing edit: you can tell the difference between forced challenges vs challenges between people who want to be there
@Useri77u7u7
@Useri77u7u7 Жыл бұрын
The produce opinion is so right like do ppl who say “ive was only made to debut Yujin and wonyoung” not realize IZONE was only made so that the girls could have more fame in their future careers??
@mala4222
@mala4222 Жыл бұрын
heavy on the yunjin and wonhee one
@maryamayub3707
@maryamayub3707 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who feels the same way about tiktok challenges. 👏👏👏
@user-mc4ju4r
@user-mc4ju4r Жыл бұрын
The wonhee hate train is disgusting, I hope hybe does something about it
@jihyediorৎ
@jihyediorৎ Жыл бұрын
CONGRATS FOR 10K !! that’s a huge achievement ! I’ve been watching you for a long time since you always had 100% true opinions and you are a dive aswelll❤ you never dissapoint !! ❤
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😭❤️ also, we need more dives here on youtube!
@kellyb7561
@kellyb7561 Жыл бұрын
OMG I LOVE THAT CHERISH IS YOUR INTRO ITS THE BEST BSIDE FROM IVE!!
@24O325
@24O325 Жыл бұрын
YES U UNDERSTAND
@4m3mory
@4m3mory Жыл бұрын
the instrumental is nice but it was my least fav from the album along with lips 😿 blue blood, mine, heroine>>>>>>>
@wonysbeloved
@wonysbeloved Жыл бұрын
6:22 True omg, the fact they're promoting the album even after 4 months 😭
@lovingcix9273
@lovingcix9273 Жыл бұрын
i didn’t even watch the R U Next survival show (or whatever it was called, sorry 😭) but i think that if it felt low budget and rushed is because the show was just solely made to attract fans for the group. hybe has fromis, le sserafim, and newjeans so i feel like they wanted their next gg to stand out idk. in which i’d agree with your opinion, i feel like having a survival show was unnecessary. but only because so many kpop fans are loyal to hybe groups already so they probably would have debuted popular; given a survival show or not. or another thought - maybe it was hybe’s way of given the group a backstory of some sort?
@wintoraa_
@wintoraa_ Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with wonyoung kpop stan cannot stand wonyoung being it girl knowing she has every thing to be one but they want wonyoungs popularity in there favs they pull talent card clearly knowing for being it girl it's not about talent but influence other fandoms want wonyoungs popularity because she rules the 4gen they clearly know that and they cannot digest the truth that wonyoung will always be 4th gen it girl every brand wants her btw your videos are amazing ❤❤
@dantarctica9430
@dantarctica9430 Жыл бұрын
That was really hard to read. Please use punctuation.
@MochieeeMoon
@MochieeeMoon Жыл бұрын
That’s what I’ve been saying the last few days. The amount of hate Wonhee gets is absolutely insane, yes the lineup is quite suspicious but do not pass the blame towards Wonhee. The people that are hating Wonhee are the same people that were hating on wonyoung.
@m0_mymelody
@m0_mymelody Жыл бұрын
Another one is Stop saying when a idols die " We need to protect our Idols" and then bully idol (wonyoung) that just hypocritical
@chenles_defender
@chenles_defender Жыл бұрын
The Wonyoung opinion is nothing but facts. Also who said that brands are the ones who should promote the idols? Why do they think the brands' jobs are to promote them? Who gave them that idea?
@Kat-b4r
@Kat-b4r Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY... the standard of IT girl is very high ...THX TO WONYOUNG ...the IT girl of 4 gen
@tolanisimpson5360
@tolanisimpson5360 Жыл бұрын
YESS!! My IVE bias, Wonyoung!!
@lhkim5256
@lhkim5256 Жыл бұрын
Oh... Wonyoung should've had this many defenders as well when she was 13-14 in pd48... Wonhee, stay strong!!!
@Kat-b4r
@Kat-b4r Жыл бұрын
we still see people demanding why their faves werent in nominations or didnt win...as in the VMAs /... literally youtube channels related to kpop complaining how rigged it is when their faves arent in the nominations in vmas
@amphibian2982
@amphibian2982 Жыл бұрын
The hybe on fr, don’t they all have dream academy and are opening auditions for a bg? Like slow down
@Ghizlane_06
@Ghizlane_06 Жыл бұрын
y'all are just jealous wonyoung is THE IT GIRL, and your fav. just can't be as good as her,
@saltandlight93
@saltandlight93 Жыл бұрын
All the Wonyoung hate made me like her. I'm the target market.
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG 11 ай бұрын
I love wonyoung anyway but this hate train made me like her anymore cus the way instead of shutting down, quitting, etc she gets better and keeps striving far and I respect that so much
@wonysbeloved
@wonysbeloved Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 10k subscribers to the most relevant youtuber ever! 💖
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
Thank youuu 🥹💕
@hatake.uchiha
@hatake.uchiha Жыл бұрын
literally the first one is so true, sm ppl be saying wonyoung isnt the IT girl and then wish for these new idols to be the next wonyoung, thats honestly so trueeee omg
@staylikealyon-sj5kp
@staylikealyon-sj5kp Жыл бұрын
I really don’t want my favs to be the next wonyoung, no thank you. I don’t want them to get hated and dragged for doing nothing. Yes, they deserve more recognition, just like every idol, but not that much.
@CeruleanCitizen
@CeruleanCitizen Жыл бұрын
People only hate Wonyoung because she's pretty, rich, and has amazing opportunities. It's all jealousy. Wonyoung isn't even my IVE bias and it's clear as day to me.
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG 11 ай бұрын
Literally her hate is so dumb too like hate over being startled, eating, posing, etc
@Lisaonda-xg
@Lisaonda-xg Жыл бұрын
Wonyoung is the PHENOMENAL IT GIRL she even makes other it girls look ordinary . She truly deserves the title
@kurokurt5477
@kurokurt5477 Жыл бұрын
Wonhee isnt even the youngest right ?
@armyswhoblinkonce2711
@armyswhoblinkonce2711 Жыл бұрын
I dont agree with the hybe shouldn’t be debuting new groups. I mean i agree that runext? was definitely rushed but i feel that was because of whatever conflict that happened between cjenm and hybe which cause iland2 to not be under hybe. The concept for runext? was rushed because iland2 was supposed to happen last year but the conflict caused it to continuously get pushed back. They probably just wanted to give the trainees some publicity and the future group so they put scraps together. However the reason I said I didn’t agree that hybe shouldn’t be debuting more groups is because hybe is not a singular company and they have the infer structure to debut more than one group within a year. Hybe has sub labels which manage the groups. Bighit holds bts and txt, source music hold lesserafim, ador holds newjeans, pledis holds fromis_9 and seventeen, and belift at the time was just holding enhypen and will soon debut i’ll-it(runext? group). There isn’t any overlap only within the sub labels. I hope this makes sense.
@wintersblackmamba
@wintersblackmamba Жыл бұрын
Yeah the wonhee one was 100% true. The same thing happened to bahiyyih when she ended up in the lineup everyone freaked out because she wasn’t “talented enough” and “she only made it cause of her brother”. She got sm hate right after girls planet and death threats. She was like 16 or 17 too? Like come on y’all. When wonyoung was getting hate she was also a minor. Hell wonyoung got hate since she was 13 and won produce. Everyone preaches about protecting minors but as soon as it comes to an idol they don’t like it doesn’t apply anymore.
@Ycheee
@Ycheee Жыл бұрын
Dance challenges nowadays are just transactional
@honeyse
@honeyse Жыл бұрын
It's just funny to me that your profile picture is more stable than my breathing-I love Gaeul, I really appreciate it when someone uses IVE pics because I am used to people hating on them 😂😂😂
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
I just LOVE that picture, i don’t think i’m gonna change it anytime soon ahahah And yeah it’s so sad seeing there aren’t many dives here on youtube…
@tonyn1628
@tonyn1628 Жыл бұрын
brand reputation is the most useless metrics in kpop. kpop is now a global and measurement just based on korean reputation is just a small potion of a idols appeal. but beyond that, brand reputation has absolutely nothing to do with being an idol. too many fans use brand reputation as a way of saying their fav idol or group is better than another just base on brand reputation
@amethyst034
@amethyst034 Жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@zoi7582
@zoi7582 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who said it also matters if your group is actually promoted towards Korea if it's not it really doesn't bring anything
@coolgaeul
@coolgaeul Жыл бұрын
Lesserafim’s epbw was a gem of a bside but they literally didnt need to too make a thousand remixes. Maybe 1 remix thats it but a gem is precious and doesnt need cutting SOMETIMES (This was a comparison if u didnt realize)😭
@serinemadoui8675
@serinemadoui8675 Жыл бұрын
the only thing I don't really agree with you is the "idols can be terrible people off cam" and as much as it is true, like we've had our fair share of terrible people in the industry, I think it's pretty unfair and just a negative way of thinking of them, I'm not saying treat them like angels like that's pretty naïve and dumb, even though we also had a fair share of good people in the industry, but I can tell you that most probably like 90% of them as just common people like you and me, who make mistakes, who have flaws, who can act badly in certain situations and good in others. So I think it's time for fans to treat them like decent humans and neither like angels nor war criminals
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
We should just act normal about our idols, but unfortunately some people do believe their faves are actual angels and will use this to drag other groups. The truth is that you might end up getting very disappointed if you think your faves are incapable of making mistakes because chances are they will mess up one day since they’re normal people like us (just like you said), so that’s why we should just be neutral.
@vicm832
@vicm832 Жыл бұрын
i don’t think believing your idols are good people is bad, because honestly, i’m tired of people assuming all idols are shady and bad just because they’re famous and take care of their public image. like, taking care of one’s image and not sharing your private life doesn’t immediately mean you commited a crime. good people also fuck up lol. the weird part is bragging about your idols being good people, like 1- yeah it’s the bare minimum and 2- you don’t really know¿ like you can think that to yourself but why make a fool of yourself in public 😭
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
well said, believing your idols are good is not the problem, but bragging about them being angels when you don't even know them is pretty ridiculous
@luv.beckette
@luv.beckette Жыл бұрын
Number 8 is the best opinion ever!! ❤
@Useri77u7u7
@Useri77u7u7 Жыл бұрын
7:26 when ppl got mad at aespa for winning performance of the year on mama when the criteria was literally popularity and not skill. it made me so mad. I think the same happened w ive too
@TomsMusicCorner
@TomsMusicCorner Жыл бұрын
The ridiculous thing is exactly this criteria. What does popularity have to do with a performance? Does it become better just because more people know it?
@Useri77u7u7
@Useri77u7u7 Жыл бұрын
@@TomsMusicCorner girl don’t ask me ask mama bruh
@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks
@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks Жыл бұрын
@@TomsMusicCorner Popular = a lot of people like it. and if people liked it, Then they deserve the win. It's not based on "skill" It's based on how many people love the performance. And believe it or not only international stans complained about IVE's performance.
@TomsMusicCorner
@TomsMusicCorner Жыл бұрын
@@Welchs-Fruit-SnacksI'm not talking about IVE, I'm talking about popularity and that it's nonsense to take that as a criteria, because it says exactly nothing about a particular performance. That popular groups of course have more viewers is somehow logical, otherwise they would not be popular ^^
@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks
@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks Жыл бұрын
@@TomsMusicCorner Ahh, My apologizes.
@annamann8659
@annamann8659 Жыл бұрын
Project groups are just that they’re a project for these idols to get together and become more famous. I understand why some people want the idles who perform together to stay together, but in most cases, it’s just unfeasible.
@Iammvonn
@Iammvonn Жыл бұрын
The wonhee one is SO REALL like if ya dnt leave that poor girl alone
@zhisu2665
@zhisu2665 Жыл бұрын
These brands only work w idols because their company paid for them to. YG has had connections to luxury brands for over a decade so whenever I see blinks in particular acting as if Dior Chanel Celine whatevs personally loved the members is b.s. its business. If YG didnt call them up they wouldnt have been considered
@zoi7582
@zoi7582 Жыл бұрын
The difference is YGE is low-key is about it and the members actually have an impact on brands they're global icons They build up their image for years when they started with photoshoots than little sponsorships and campaigns then house ambassador or muse now finally Global ambassadors
@show-me333
@show-me333 Жыл бұрын
You know what; just yesterday I was complaining about my girl Minji not getting a lot of Chanel promotions…this successfully shut me up lol 🤭🤭
@TomsMusicCorner
@TomsMusicCorner Жыл бұрын
Agree with almost everything. The fact that people are talking about Yunjin's statement has already changed a lot. For the rest, of course, she needs us, the fans.... all the fans. Someone just had to begin with it and that was our Jennifer.
@misterleft240
@misterleft240 Жыл бұрын
the only idol I can see of becoming the new it girl would be ahyeon of baemon, and yeah iz*one is the most successful project group ever created so I cant help but be upset when they disbanded
@run2_u
@run2_u Жыл бұрын
ate with the wonyoung one
@Bunnygottalive
@Bunnygottalive Жыл бұрын
Number two hit hard! I saw some blinks complaining Dior didn’t put Jisoo first in a picture slot 😒
@SnowyPenguin1408
@SnowyPenguin1408 11 ай бұрын
The 3rd one is so real, there are like 1000 videos of epatbw, cake or queencard
@renrin_
@renrin_ Жыл бұрын
the hybe one tho. belift only has one group that debuted back in 2020, it makes perfect sense why they would debut another group this year. you can't tell me them relying only on one group is going to be a good business move for them.
@eloxoxo222
@eloxoxo222 Жыл бұрын
yall misinterpreted poor yunjin 😭😭 how could she change a whole industry??
@rowanjoy419
@rowanjoy419 Жыл бұрын
I always assumed or understand "Umproblematic" as my idol is professional, is not a dramatic or smart enough to not get caugh, so I always understand why people proudly said their faves are umproblematic. But now you said it mean "angels" mmm not sure about that.
@PiplupFritzMickeyMouseBambito
@PiplupFritzMickeyMouseBambito Жыл бұрын
6:22 THE WAY IT WAS EVE PSYCHE AND THE BLUEBEARDS WIFE HELPPP
@qweelo5537
@qweelo5537 Жыл бұрын
third IS SO REALLLLLLLL
@KarissaNelsen
@KarissaNelsen Жыл бұрын
What you said about Runext is how i felt about A2K
@via45
@via45 Жыл бұрын
The thing with brand ambassadors is, is that you usually need to work with the brand for YEARS, and have a catalogue of experiences before gettinf the job. Its sad how companies can act like famous parents and just buy their way in.
@sur_un_nuage
@sur_un_nuage Жыл бұрын
i don't entirely agree about survival groups, but you're not completely wrong either. some remixes make sense and are actually good but having too many remixes is just unnecessary.
@nublock5000
@nublock5000 Жыл бұрын
I love it when ktube videos manage to be both real and wholesome all at the same time. 👏🏻
@joesmith201212
@joesmith201212 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this Wonyoung is the MVP of Kpop. .. and tik tok is a stupid fad it's been over like a year ago
@TooSpicyForYourHeart_
@TooSpicyForYourHeart_ Жыл бұрын
The Yujin and Wonyoung “drag” is so funny to me bc what else was starship supposed to do? Lock them in a basement never to be seen again?
@naurwaybro
@naurwaybro Жыл бұрын
I was frustrated tht wonhee debuted because I did think others deserved it more and I knew she had potential, but if she got 1st place, seems like she deserved it. I didn’t go around hating on her bc of tht and it’s crazy how ppl be hating anyone, let alone minors and these are the same ppl who want to “protect minors” like bfr 😭 go outside or smth cause how do y’all have the time to type full on paragraphs on why you don’t like wonhee bruh
@TheMusicBoxMashups
@TheMusicBoxMashups Жыл бұрын
I approve of the SOTY opinion with Boy with Luv used as background footage. 2019 was so stupid during award season
@Useri77u7u7
@Useri77u7u7 Жыл бұрын
Ppl didn’t want wonhee in the group bc she’s a minor but those same ppl will bully her
@24O325
@24O325 Жыл бұрын
Y'know damn well that's not the reason. Theres other minors in the group and they haven't gotten even half as much hate as Wonhee. They're only mad that she debuted instead of Chanelle and Jiwoo.
@Useri77u7u7
@Useri77u7u7 Жыл бұрын
@@24O325 I didn’t say it was the only reason tho?? read my comment again and understand what point I’m trying to make
@milanazand1564
@milanazand1564 Жыл бұрын
wonyoung impact is that big that all out of your 9 opinions, everyone (almost) is taling about her in the comments.
@hyeist
@hyeist Жыл бұрын
CG ON 10K!!
@MahamudJennei
@MahamudJennei Жыл бұрын
Someone say it girl I think of Jennie
@rosallieex2565
@rosallieex2565 Жыл бұрын
I loved the remix of eye psyche,.. The only thing I didnt like were the other 1000 versions in languages. Like the remix is in english and original in korean thats enough
@Krissy143
@Krissy143 Жыл бұрын
Taeng I hope nobody chokes and asphixiates cause these pills will be hard to swallow
@923CREEP
@923CREEP Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or am I the only one who doesnt like the whole "it" girl agenda, I thought being a it girl was being known worldwide or just being known out of the genre or fandom. EXANPLES taylor swift, beyonce, drake and many more, the closest thing to a "it" girl or boy is blackpink and bts cause when you bring up kpop thats the first thing thatll pop up in someones mind who doesnt know kpop. very true on number 6 hybe girl groups are already doing fine alot of attention is on them, hybe should really be worried about fromis i didnt even know fromis was under hybe. i thought they were from a nugu entertainment but clearly not and the fact that hybe wants to add to more groups is ridiculous. humber 9 is true i think two versions is already enough and i absolutely hate when they remake a song and include that into the album making it a whole full album even though that song already exist.
@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks
@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks Жыл бұрын
an IT boy/girl is all about popularity, influence, and control over the general public. Hence, Jennie and Jimin are third-generation IT boy/girl, whereas Yeonjun and Wonyoung are fourth-generation IT boy/girl. I don't know about Jennie, Jimin, or Yeonjun, but I know that Wonyoung deserves it so much. She has most people in a chokehold and can't stop talking about her. Whenever you think about strawberries, you think of her scandal. When you think of lip syncing you think about her covering a song and lip syncing while sitting down. In fact, after it aired on TV, there was so much backlash that people were calling for the ban of lip syncing. There are SO many idols that lip sync but all it took was one performance from Wonyoung to make everyone lose their minds. Most people in Korea love her. She's even called "Kpop's Princess," and "National Granddaughter" because of how respectful she is and because of how much older Kpop stans love her. A lot of them think of her as a little sister and she is known as one of the cutest and prettiest idols. As a result, in Korea, it is all about being the richest, most influential, and most popular idol.
@zoi7582
@zoi7582 Жыл бұрын
​@@Welchs-Fruit-Snacksbut k-pop is global though I don't shade any of these but if you talk about Global appeal than Lisa,taehyung,Jungkook are the first idols that come to my mind.also they end up having the most attention from the general public all the time so I definitely think it girl or boy liek most fan-made can be very preconceived ideas which are hard to change even if someone has already surpassed that idol
@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks
@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks Жыл бұрын
​@@zoi7582 Nothing you said changed anything. The facts remain the same despite Kpop's globalization. Wonyoung is the most popular, influential, and talked about 4th generation idol, and Jennie is talked about more than Lisa. In addition, Jennie is more influential and has more control over the general public than Lalisa. Sure Lisa is more popular, but that's not the only factor you have to consider. and It doesn't matter if you think those Idols are more deserving, the facts will still stand.
@Sanatizer_143
@Sanatizer_143 4 ай бұрын
Hybe doesn't need another show i-land was enough we don't another one
@IsabellaArchives
@IsabellaArchives Жыл бұрын
dang all your opinions are straight facts
@JustaregularInsomnia
@JustaregularInsomnia Жыл бұрын
6:21 THANK YOU THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID istg there are so many remixes btw CONGRATS FOR 10KK
@RWISE.E
@RWISE.E Жыл бұрын
OMG you are 10k!! i remember subscribing to you when you were at 3k omg congrats!
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
thank you so much!!!
@ermbtspavedtheway
@ermbtspavedtheway 6 ай бұрын
i never even realized that the point of project groups was redebuting the members..
@mingisfixon6452
@mingisfixon6452 11 ай бұрын
7:28 Ur right, I'm STILL not ready to accept this Fancy SOTY- 🤧
@kpopishie
@kpopishie Жыл бұрын
Every time I watch kpop opinion videos I get so pissed that I can’t even make it the end of the video. But with this channel, I’m always itching for another video. There are times I disagree with you but you have this calm and respectful way of sharing your opinions and I love it. Congrats on 10k
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
thank you so much, i'm glad you're enjoying the content 😊
@Yooniverse35
@Yooniverse35 Жыл бұрын
2:53 This whole survival show was such an unsolicited and most garbage thing to come out of hybe this year. Tbh I was quite annoyed at how wonhee was chosen by knetz in favour of other highly talented girls, only because she's 'pretty'. But my annoyance is directed towards knetz instead of wonhee herself. It's clear the girl needs years worth of training and it's unfair to her that you're making her debut in favour of looks when she has such a long way to go. It'll just turn her into a fresh brand new kpop punching bag. She's the entire package for hate; a minor, unskilled; pretty. Also the judges were such massive douchebags it's not even funny. And i'm very offended chanelle didn't make it. She was the only interesting one. Anyway, i hope the members are given time to improve b4 debuting. 5:35 This opinion doesn't make any sense to me. I mean yeah, obv we don't know them personally but it's unfair to assume the worst in them too. I get ppl can be annoying about their faves esp under comment sections of other group members who happen to get caught in scandals. It's annoying but it's not harmful, mostly at least as far as I've seen. Fans have always bragged about their faves like it's not anything new. "My bias has never been in a scandal he/she is so unproblematic" is not a horrible thing to say at all. yeah but if you're using that statement to belittle someone else then just go away. 6:25 "Who cares?" Literally tho lol just don't listen to them. I'm glad their company is promoting them well and some of those remixes (esp the one with BIBI) are actually really good. 6:47 YES EXACTLY OMG what do ppl think she is? She's already doing what she can as an artist i.e. expressing her thoughts through her music and speaking her mind about certain issues. 7:26 Kpop stans need to let go of their entitlement. It'll bite them in the ass.
@ladydiamond6611
@ladydiamond6611 10 ай бұрын
siri saying LISARAFUM is so funny......
@yellowducky7884
@yellowducky7884 Жыл бұрын
Para social relationships with idols. People don't like to address or admit it, but i have seen lots of k-pop shorts where people are like 'x would never do that' or 'y is not that type of person'. Acting like they know the idol. Most k-pop personalities you see are partly or fully manufactured by the label to appeal to fans. So yes, idol X could've done that thing. Oh yeah and, stop debuting minors straight up. I do like new jeans but still, the fact that their youngest member was 14 and the majority were minors when debuting shows a lot about where the k-pop industry is heading. There should be laws stopping anyone under the age of 19 because that's just child exploitation. K-pop is turning into Hollywood real fast.
@aerii_11
@aerii_11 9 ай бұрын
I literally agree with all of them, i also am amazed by the fact that none of these opinions were bashing idols and all of them were simply facts . (according to me) Love your videos!❤
@mingisfixon6452
@mingisfixon6452 11 ай бұрын
Project groups truly are just there to market the idols lmao. I had to learn this the hard way with Iz*One after ulting them but it is insane to me that ppl think a group existing to debut a project grouo member is an insult. Its literally the point and doesnt actually take anything away from the group. Heck, even just being on the survival shows is marketing. People remember they liked a particular person who didnt make it, they hear theyre debuting, and check our the group. The only ones who should have an issue are those of us who ended up ulting them and now have to face this somewhat sad/harsh reality bcuz we didnt previously understand it, lmao.
@chae.vibess
@chae.vibess 11 ай бұрын
2:18 exactly. People literally hating on ive that the didn’t made that many challenges with other idols… tff?
@menusgod
@menusgod Жыл бұрын
ty for saying hype didnt need another group. bc i love runext but cmon.
@_sxnnymya157
@_sxnnymya157 10 ай бұрын
I remember I heard someone say you don't know me you know what I show you. So you can't say at all that you know an idol or whatever the case may be.
@Wonycoded
@Wonycoded 8 ай бұрын
those arent hard to swallow atleast for me tho i agree with everything mostly yunjin one
@syuwb
@syuwb Жыл бұрын
Ur opinions r honestly so real oh em gee
@L.adislav
@L.adislav Жыл бұрын
Agree
@chae.vibess
@chae.vibess 11 ай бұрын
6:33 the only remix i like and listen to it (no matter if kpop, pop, or other genres) is shooting star remix of xg 😂
@HelloKittyUwW07
@HelloKittyUwW07 Жыл бұрын
Imagine liking kpop
@Everythingz127
@Everythingz127 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 10k
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
thank youuuu!
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