Things kpop stans do that are instant red flags

[@dipikaoyshee604]

First comment pin me

[@Kanai799]

A lot of K-pop Stan’s are pick me’s 💀a lot of girls literally tear down each other for a male idols attention.

[@geesuslookatthatalpaca7471]

It’s so hard to look at! Seriously, girls have to deal with so much already. I hate when girls attack other girls for zero reason, and it makes me sad. We should stick together, not tear each other down.

[@hope3290]

It's really projection. These type of Kpop stans don't want to unpack their own internalized misogyny, so they project it onto other women.

[@via45]

Honestly this is why GG get a different level of hate compared to bg

[@idk-xf6rd]

Yeah for Attention that they will never get from their idol these stupid fans istg

[@artsy.stay_]

good that I don't crush on men ‼️

[@crptpyr]

"token stanning the underrated/mistreated member" yeah it was pretty weird when Kitsch came out and everybody and their dog was a Liz stan for like 3 weeks complaining about how she was being mistreated

[@soft4taeng]

Funny how those people that were crying about mistreatment suddenly got so quiet when she got to shine like she deserved once the full album came out…they clearly only cared about her as long as she was “mistreated”

[@imawizone]

​@@benedettaaaaa_ikr that’s just annoying + it isn’t like liz doesn’t get any lines in other songs because she’s always like 3rd in lines distributions

[@imawizone]

@@benedettaaaaa_ people should be grateful that she gets lines

[@verdictic]

If you noticed in the a2k episodes, few audiences root for Gina which honestly makes since... People don't like when people aren't percieved as miserable and have so much soul

[@vickychannnnn]

3:30 Exactly! The netizens were audacious enough to make up nonsense things about Won-young. They called her colorist and stuff and everyone seriously ignored the fact that a child came to touch her which is completely unacceptable. People need to realize that you can't make physical contact with an idol unless or until you have their consent.

[@mymelodramaticantics]

Netizens really be calling Wonyoung colorist when they were comparing tan idols to wild animals, huh? 💀💀

[@vickychannnnn]

@@mymelodramaticantics Omg fr 💀💀

[@averagegenshingamer]

you can't make physical contact with a *person* unless or until you have their consent!! cause idols are regular humans just like us and no one would want a stranger coming up to them and touching them

[@gvynkii]

no bc frr 💀 I saw a army make a video and it showed the wonyoung and kid clip and then it showed a clip of jungkook shaking hands with a kid?! 😭 armies were hating on wonnie in the comments but maybe if they weren't so slow, they would realise that junkook gave consent for the child to shake his hand whilst wonyoung didn't know a kid would come up and touch her meaning she gave no consent 😭 I hate wonyoung antis so much 💀

[@dawnanddust]

@@gvynkiiomg I just saw the same video too like why were they comparing completely different situations? Wonyoung didn’t even see the kid before he touched her.

[@Kat-b4r]

_Kpop fans also need to stop calling everything as rigged if their faves dont win_ The way people are commenting how rigged this award show is just bez their faves songs weren't nominated and calling every nominated ones as "isnt good enough, the ____ song from ____ grp is more deserving". Like come one _if award shows gave award based on ur opinion they would have asked u but apparently they dont care who U think is more deserving_

[@soft4taeng]

Facts, some people seem to forget that award shows are based on specific criteria, so if a group wins it means they had the numbers to do so and it doesn’t matter whether those fans think they deserved it or not

[@Kat-b4r]

@@soft4taeng exactly

[@enanano]

When I say stuff is rigged it normally is. But when it's not I'm just confused how a certain group (mostly in survival shows) didn't win but I never actually comment online that it's rigged. I have said irl many times that r u next is rigged just bc some really good groups didn't win but I obviously don't mean it and I have never commented online abt it

[@Kat-b4r]

​@@enananoexactly sometimes things don't add up but I personally have seen kpop Stans calling everything as rigged just bez their faves didn't win or get nominated....just for that reason.....😅 The moments their faves are added ...it's deserving When it's not their faves...it's rigged. I mean i saw people [ BUNNIES]calling super shy more"deserving " of vma than PV

[@enanano]

@@Kat-b4r imo, both songs aren't really good.. but if I had to choose one for VMA it would have to be pink venom because of the awards it got that super shy hasn't.

[@Kat-b4r]

During kitsch era.... Everyone was a liz stan suddenly ,talking abt her less lines.😂

[@nonjabulomangoro1871]

Which was hilarious and dramatic because it was *just* a pre-debut track...

[@ccsbm208]

@@nonjabulomangoro1871and she had the most lines in i am

[@chuutina]

paved the way argument gets on my nerves SO MUCH.

[@FabricFather]

One of mine: Bringing up vocal tiers, especially when ppl are praising idols for their singing. Like the amount of times where I’ve seen ppl praise an idol for their vocals only to see “she’s only X tier, so-and-so is much better and is SJSKSKKS tier” like you really gotta bring up the system that is, in practice, largely made-up because you feel insecure about your fave? To the point where you can’t even handle someone praising theirs in a video about their fave?

[@Verowinday777]

I mean it is okay to mention them when the video is talking about comparing idols/ranking idols,but when somebody is praising their favorite and suddenly everybody start mentioning vocal tiers,it is just annoying and I feel like they are trying to hate on /degrade the idol.

[@eliquos]

​@@Verowinday777true

[@via45]

They need someone to tell them what teir rather than use their ears.

[@enanano]

​@@via45But like, why should I care what tier they are? I literally just like their voice so ofc I'm gonna praise it. I don't care if they are a horrible vocalist and I'm praising them, their voice is nice that's literally why I'm praising it. I also don't care if X is better than them. Like should I care that this idol that I was never talking abt is better? No.

[@arnoldbittu1266]

omg THIS, first off the vocal tier system fans follow is not even approved by a vocal expert it is rude to say "jisoo is an E-.Jihyo is a C-" like vocal ranking should be done on the basis of the vocal technique,improvement,potential and their previous vocal ability, like an idol might not be good at vocal support but they might have good vibrato.belts,harmonization but k pop fans are so dumb cheifly the ones making those kinds of videos, vocal ranking should be done by care not by some stupid stuff they saw on the internet and should not be biased at all

[@cometgravity]

i always see the "you're just jealous" narrative when i or someone else suggests that minors (or at least very young teenagers) shouldn't debut. like i assure you i am not jealous of children who have to endure the most brutal and intense entertainment industry on earth LOL, i don't even want to be famous. my disapproval of minors debuting comes from a place of concern, people just throw out the jealousy accusation so they don't have to confront the actual issue

[@2FullMoons]

Listen, I am tired of singing you praises everytime you drop a video but this is one of my favorite videos yet, if not my favorite. Just yes yes yes to everything!!! #5 Wonyoung stans catch that! No but seriously, how did nobody think that maybe SHE didn’t want to reveal that she got hurt during the filming of I AM? We know how Wonyoung is highly professional, always positive and never wants to represent an inconvenience to others. Maybe she knew her fans would worry too much and decided to keep it a secret. Same with her limited schedule, after all the hate she got, if I were her, I’d need 5 years off. Maybe she requested less work. We know StarPoop works their idols HARD, why wouldn’t they work their most profitable idol the most? It just doesn’t make sense, I believe Wonyoung had a say in this. #8 owww sooo true, and it goes further than that. Kpop fans don’t understand in general how kpop works. I saw the other day a voting poll for who people think should win SOTY and most of the comments were saying Cupid & Queencard for the most unrelated reasons to how the actual award shows work. Then I realize how these same people will go on to hate Ditto or I AM when one of them wins because they are the only two realistic options with Ditto leading. Their own ignorance will result in the hate the rightful winners will get. I mean look at what they did to IVE when Love Dive won fairly. Most kpop fans truly don’t understand how business works & other things related to the industry.

[@soft4taeng]

This is exactly what i thought about that whole Wonyoung and Starship situation. I clearly remember that a while ago Wonyoung literally had to juggle several different schedules in the span of two days, even having to fly back and forth and i just think SHE was the one who agreed to partaking in less schedules during I AM's promotional time. It was obvious she wasn't involved in as many activities as the other girls but i can't even complain knowing how overworked she's been since 2018. Also, knowing Wonyoung, it's likely she was also the one wanting to keep her injury a secret so she wouldn't concern the fans. Obviously Starship can be absolute trash, but we clearly don't know what goes on behind the scenes and even if Wonyoung didn't have a say in it, maybe it was Starship that wanted her to rest a little seeing how busy she's always been and i can't even be mad about it.

[@TomsMusicCorner]

Well, SOTY is actually POTY (P for popularity)... xD

[@sarah0325_]

5. I remember last october when stray kids came back with maxident and a lot of stays were up in arms about how hyunjin was the only member with no solo schedules or promotions, but it was so unreasonable imo because he had been overworked so much during previous comebacks that he had to practice for collaboration stages in his own time because he couldn't make the practice's, he had to switch parts of his hair and makeup sched with other members so he could sleep, like I was very happy they let him rest that era, especially as his grandfather had passed away at the time.

[@obrienkaties]

I used to be the person that took the "paved the way" conversation seriously. I started being a kpop fan at 11/12 years old because of 2nd gen groups. I was trying to bring up my ults as the reason why kpop is famous, and I would always get pissed off when someone mentioned another group that I didn't agree with. Now, I could care less. It's kpop at the end of the day. There's not one correct answer, we wouldn't even be having this conversation if kpop didn't become popular as it is today.

[@Gracie_127pukapukapowpow]

literally it's just music (tho some armies gotta tone it done bc bts didn't make kpop)

[@Snowgulp]

@@Gracie_127pukapukapowpowBTS made kpop popular let’s not deny that since the impact has been proven and done. But like you said they ain’t make kpop which people gotta agree with.

[@Verowinday777]

@@SnowgulpI think k-pop was already popular because of EXO,but bts popularized it even more imo.

[@zhisu2665]

@@Snowgulp except its highly exaggerated when us 2nd gen stans were literally there when Kpop was becoming popular before BTS even debuted

[@bingbong6323]

@@Snowgulp let's be clear. *2nd gen put out the name of 'kpop' internationally* . they kickstarted it all. in 1st gen it was basically just a domestic name, maybe also in japan but overall it was mostly just a thing known in east asia. but then in _2nd gen_ groups like _SUPER JUNIOR, EXO, SNSD, 2NE1, and BIG BANG_ came in around the youtube era also and made kpop known to a lot of people, not all, but a lot. basically made a name for kpop as i said. then BTS came in and _enhanced_ that popularity, especially in the western area. and since BTS was around the era of tiktok and social media in general, it was even easier for them to get recognition. at the end of the day, *all of them made an impact!!* let's not spread misinfo bc we fave certain groups. p.s. i've been into kpop since 2010 and i'm a multistan. this is just my observation of being into kpop since the start of it's popularity and seeing it grow more mainstream later on.

[@mannat_]

TRUE!! SPILLED THE TRIGGER OF THE TEA!! if an idol is problematic, he/she definitely is, not it is always based upon hate, sometimes it becomes true that “truth is hurtful”

[@blujungi]

N3 genuinely feeling so bad for Won- like. Who wouldn't be startled at being touched? The way fans make idols to be god-like and as if they weren't human its very scary

[@soft4taeng]

You best believe if it was anybody else you’d see fans screaming about how there needs to be more security to protect idols, but because it’s Wonyoung then that’s somehow her fault 😒

[@noobb499]

Ya i saw one vid comparing her to jk

[@AL-hb6ti]

on the topic of number 3, this might be a controversial opinion but k-pop stan’s definitely overuse the terms racism/racist. maybe this is just because i give the word racism a lot of power but racism it’s a genuine belief that you are superior to someone else on the simple basis of race. an idol doing CA doesnt seem worthy enough of being called racism. i think we as stan’s need to become more comfortable with the term racially ignorant rather than flat out labeling something as racism. idk i just feel like the word racism deserves more power and there’s actual racists in the industry but everyone is so busy labeling everything racism that the real issues fade into the background. idk if any of this made sense but that’s my brain dump on that topic🥲

[@soft4taeng]

I totally agree, there are many idols being racially ignorant and kpop stans group them together with other idols who have done ACTUAL racist stuff. Racism means to hate someone because of their race, but just being racially ignorant doesn't mean you necessarily have something against that race. I totally understand people choosing to stop supporting idols who do CA, because at the end of the day they can come off as very insensitive, but i feel like you need to have a real proof before being sure an idol is actually racist. This only makes the real issue fade into the background, like you said.

[@Kaystar]

Number 8!!!! I’m glad that someone else thinks this. I do business in school and when people say things with out knowing what they mean annoys me so much like the whole Hybe and SM thing, I saw people being so stupid it felt like they had no common sense

[@indigo_neo]

For your third point, cultural appropriation is another term thrown around and used incorrectly, and it’s lost its meaning. Yes, cultural appropriation is an issue in k-pop, but it doesn’t happen as much as k-pop stans would like to admit.

[@noobb499]

ya cuz some female idols could be wearing a bandana or a headband and ppl would say ca

[@indigo_neo]

@@noobb499 like they’re doing with Yunjin of Le Sserafim.

[@LemonadeRunTheFade]

Nah it does happen quite a bit. A lot of people just downplay or don't realize it because it's their faves. If anything it's not said enough but then again I'm not on Twitter like that so maybe it's different there.

[@indigo_neo]

@@LemonadeRunTheFade I’m not on Twitter that much but from what I’ve seen, people are super dramatic there.

[@ThevidhuVishanmoablink1116]

8:36 is true. Don't trust everything you see on social media (ex: dating rumours, scandals, and stuff like that) unless it is confirmed by the companies cause sometimes they are not true and are used to get more views and attention keep this in mind

[@Verowinday777]

IVE were the biggest victim of that problem.

[@ThevidhuVishanmoablink1116]

@@Verowinday777 so was BLΛƆKPIИK's Jennie and BTS's Taehyung

[@enanano]

Lesserafims chaewon and txts beomgyu have a scandal rn. And it's the most stupidest thing ever. First, they showed an old pic of kai and then labeled it as beomgyu, then they claimed that there was chaewon merch in their dorm when it was literally just merch of one of the members. Then they claimed that chaewon knew lyrics to blue hour 2/3 years early. I mean, it's probably true but that doesn't mean they are dating. Txt probably spoiled their song to izone (she was apart of izone at the time of spoiling blue hour) and it doesn't mean they are dating or something.

[@ThevidhuVishanmoablink1116]

@Verowinday777 you mean taehyung did not get that much hate, but a lot of armys were after jennie

[@Verowinday777]

@@ThevidhuVishanmoablink1116 yeah but people were about to cancel wonyoung,because of some stupid clips.

[@harrymalfoy112]

I think some people dont understand the meaning of " paving the way " bcz kpop stans seems pressed whenever it is mentioned .

[@SharonDA]

The number 4, I love music and kpop as it is, but when I was young and stupid I used to do and say whatever my fandom say it was right and wrong and hate on other groups, I luckily grew up and made my own choices, I enjoy music more and I'm fan of half of the kpop industry and honestly I got tired of all the fights and fanwars going on social media, you can like and think whatever you want and no one has the right to tell you otherwise

[@amphibian2982]

“Always defending companies just cause of your fav” im a casual newjeans Stan and I’ve seen a shocking amount of bunnies who refuse to acknowledge the whole ETA thing with SOO much evidence. I know it isn’t their ‘concept’ but the director (forgot her name off the top of my head) absolutely referenced it to create buzz, and didn’t even deny it. I’m not mad at newjeans, I’m mad at their director who felt the need to create buzz by referencing something so terrible, when they’re amazing regardless. As for the token standing, yes yes yes I agree, and also it literally causes so many fan wars like with black pink.

[@giansachse]

proudly liking this video cause i have none of those redflags😌

[@aleahscottage]

Honestly #5 is like the most important, all encompassing thing, which i feel like is jumping to black and white conclusion with so little evidence to back you up. Like Sakura chooses to have less lines. Wonyoung chose to share that she got hurt filming, and i'm positive the staff member that spilled the tea was *not* supposed or allowed to do that. I feel like wonyoung probably had some choice in getting less schedules. (I mean that only makes sense. iirc she said that she was exausted which is fair because flying across the globe 3 times in one week is insane). People automatically assume that Jinni left NMIXX for bad reasons when we simply don't know. We don't know how Moon Sua handles grief, some say the company had her come back too soon, but I feel like she probably chose to on her own. And with the random child and Wonyoung situation as well!! It's people deciding their stance too fast with zero evidence, but this time in a purely negative and harmful way. It's one of the reasons I really don't want to associate myself with k-pop stans. Because there are so many crazy people like this.

[@ashley-fr8ki]

the biggest red flag is dragging other groups unnecessarily

[@Thispotatolikekpop]

This connects to the first opinion, I hate it when fans say " lets see you dance and sing at the same time 🤓" like thats not my job, and no one is denying that being an idol is hard, it is incredibly physically draining, but if your favs are making so many mistakes that they cant even give an average performance, then maybe they actually deserve the criticism. And maybe this is a little harsh, but if an idols physical state is preventing them from doing their job, then maybe being an idol isnt for them. I understand there are times where they are sick or injured and I absolutely dont want them performing in that state, but if its happening in every performance that they do, then that idol actually needs help because I don't think thats healthy at all. Anyway, love your videos.

[@michelle.___]

I agree _”let’s see if you can dance and sing at the same time 🤓☝🏻”_ I didn’t spend years training of course I can’t sing and dance at the same time 💀

[@enanano]

​@@michelle.___Exactly, I even tried it myself and it was so hard 💀 Like I kept getting out of breath easily and it was just the chorus 💀💀 So imagine doing the whole song, I can sing and dance but together? No.

[@--elena457]

THISSS OMG FINALLY

[@Hellokitty_391]

Sakura stan be like 😭

[@noobb499]

I remember one person said that and then they replied with "bet" and the posted a vid on their channel and they were actually pretty good at it. Best comeback of all time

[@vivianedossantoscaipira7075]

And then there are some fans, who believe their idols, love them. They probably don't know, that we as individuals, exist. But people will always dream, about something that will never happen.

[@bullboxfactory9704]

100% agree with number 7 especially baemon stans getting into fanwars when a group's lineup isn't even confirmed like pls let's be serious

[@ashley-fr8ki]

the group"s lineup is confirmed

[@gamerxarmymultistan]

there are some idols i dont like. they haven't done anything for me to not like them but i just get annoyed a bit by them. but i still acknowledge their skills, kind personality, visuals and how they contribute to the group. i tend to avoid videos if its just about them and not the group. That is what you should do if you don't like an idol. Not writing a whole paragrpgh about all the things they must have done because its impossible for you to dislike someone for no reason because you are such a good person so its all their fault. sometimes we just don't click with people and that's okay, there is nothing i can do about it. so just remain respectful and ignore

[@starsintheskyID]

Same. I can't connect with txt, enhypen, nj, nmixx and nct idk why? All of them are talented and kind but not just my cup of tea, I always skips contents related to them.

[@gamerxarmymultistan]

@stars_in_the_sky for me if was the same for some groups and I did that but eventually it changed and I stanned them. Atm the only group like that is mamamoo. It's usually a specific idol

[@naysfile]

who 😶‍🌫️

[@gamerxarmymultistan]

@naysfile mamamoo, hanni, yeji, kazuha. But they haven't don't anything wrong.

[@naysfile]

@@gamerxarmymultistan im not attacking you but whats wrong with hanni and kazuha?

[@Kat-b4r]

#1 I just commented somewhere hown NEWJNs comeback wasnt that amazing as much as previous one ...and supershy isnt a vma worth song to those calling it more deserving of vmas .........the way those bunnies attacked me was very childish as if i was insulting their ancestors......kpop fans need to stop taking everything as hate.....ofc not all bunnies r the same but majority of them r #6 people defending min heejin just bez she is from hybe and is the director of newjns.....😅thats hurts my brain. And that pick me one...fans see someone actung cute or feminist they r so damn quick to call them a pick me. That word lost it's meaning ages ago

[@ayanobadass949]

Lmao same

[@via45]

I agree songs are just songs why are they taking it so personally for

[@mingispinky]

Understandable. Everyone has different taste in music.

[@noobb499]

Ye i agree with u

[@Stay_Zerose]

7:17 Alot of people will stan a pre-debut group really hard so that if the group takes off and becomes really popular, they can say they were there since the beginning as though it's a huge achievement, but also when they make fan accounts so early on they often get the largest followings which really matters to some people

[@JasonAnjelGarcia]

Also i agree with you with you i don't care about who paved the way argument it's a pointless argument to have

[@th3a_ami]

Only FACTS were spilt .. i relate to no.1 so much i get blasted for my criticism and people call me a hypocrite, or i am jealous, or i am hating/blasting on their Favs when it's valid criticism

[@Snowgulp]

Bro please make a whole vid on number 7 because it’s so true like how tf is there babymonster Stan’s when they haven’t even made one song yet?! Like I get most of them are obsessed bp fans supporting one another but cmon now? Snap into reality they stanning and worshiping photos at this point💀

[@a_maani]

7:34 real. i remember when everyone was hating on attrakt (5050's company) because they were seeking investment, and saying the company was desperate like what??

[@farinefleurs]

I dont think number 7 is bad. Since im guilty of number 7, i'll explain. I am a predebut stan of zb1. The first group i ever stanned predebut. Even though i dont know them, i like their talent. For example, taerae. He has an amazing voice, so i was looking forward to his debut. Another example is jiwoong. When i first watched boys planet, i recognized him because of the tv shows he was in. Theres nothing wrong to be a predebut stan. Its not weird since you no nothing abt them. You dont know nothing abt other members of groups when you first stan right? Imo, its not a red flag!

[@vixxexo6855]

I don’t understand how that is a red flag even. Like sometimes there are stuff known about some idols even if the group has not debuted yet. Some idols have debuted before like Sakura and Chaewon where in IZ*ONE before Le Sserafim and many were predebut fan of Le Sserafim because of that. Groups formed from survival shows like ZeroBaseOne, Enhypen and Stray Kids also makes sense to have predebut fans as fans see the idols talent in the show.

[@ruoqifang]

I think it's only weird when the idols have no predebut content at all. If you know about the idols predebut and they have content, then it's fine

[@stewedtea]

To be fair, they did kind of exclude survival show groups, so really, you're not guilty of number 7

[@soft4taeng]

For me the red flag isn't necessarily stanning unknown people in itself, it's when stans literally get into fights to defend idols they've never even heard talking because they've only seen a picture of them. There have been so many people starting fanwars to uplift these idols that haven't even debuted and they know nothing about and i feel like this is pretty weird because how can you get SO attached to someone whose personality and skills you don't even know? Obviously ZB1, Kep1er, Izone and other survival show groups are different because you got to know them through the show, you got to witness their talents and personalities so it makes sense to get attached, but it just doesn't make sense to become so overprotective of someone if the only thing you know about them is how they look, at least this is what i think.

[@nonjabulomangoro1871]

I mean, what if you don't like the music? Do you continue to stan them, buying their albums and voting for them? How can you be sure that you will buy what they are putting down?

[@jAyBCD1]

If it was a white kid in the Wonyoung situation, nobody would've batted an eye screaming racism, because it would've just been a regular thing. But simply for the kid being a POC, *Wonyoung Is A Racist* 🤦🏽

[@via45]

Yet they can't pull up another clip of her being "racist" because she simply is not. They really trying to make her a bad guy, too bad she a angel irl 😂

[@jAyBCD1]

@@via45 people just really hate Wonyoung. They can't just let her breathe. Like girl come one. She's rich, talented and a nice person. That's all you need. She's not even bad.

[@blooming_rei]

Well I’m a poc and I don’t think she is. Stop pulling the racist card over every small little clip it’s so frustrating

[@jAyBCD1]

@@blooming_rei same I'm also Poc. I'm just frustrated at this point. And I'm even more frustrated at how people won't bat an eye if it were a white kid.

[@toanyonearekpopqueens]

Number 2 is for all the Stray Khias fans

[@Melisa-qt3os]

When? Not all of them, don’t say names you could start fan wars

[@CrazyTreYer]

Khias 💀

[@gvynkii]

what 💀

[@Melisa-qt3os]

@@CrazyTreYer 😭💀

[@always_mob]

Lol how?

[@isitstupidtoaskquestions]

I think we all need a day where we go touch the grass bc things are getting out of hand

[@RogueRhiRhi]

I see number 3 so much on social media it's insane. It's very easy to google definitions of the words.

[@bitterOrangish]

A singular company buying and having a monopoly over an industry is a bad thing whether or not it's common practice. People being concerned by Hybe's recent behaviours is not dramatic. For example, the writer's strike is a direct consequence of the monopolization of streaming, so this practice does have really bad consequences. Acting oblivious or trying to downplay Hybe's actions is weird.

[@soft4taeng]

I don't personally like Hybe all that much but they're not the only company that's trying to invest and buying out other companies. Other companies do the exact same thing, it's just that Hybe does it in a larger scale and it's more evident, that's why kpop stans seem concerned about it. I feel like Hybe will continue to expand and i absolutely do not like they idea of them buying out other independent agencies, but objectively speaking they're not doing anything inherently wrong and it's just a part of business.

[@bitterOrangish]

​@@soft4taeng Well their action is bad and usually, govt intervention is employed to prevent bigger companies from swallowing smaller companies like Hybe is doing. But Hybe has some pretty blatant relations with the govt and that's the concerning part for me. K-pop has always been an oligopoly, but I always think it's good to criticize actions that will hurt the industry. But I also understand your point and that there's not much we can do as fans.

[@49unghtHy]

​@@bitterOrangishI dont have problem with Hybe Buying All this Small company's but I don't Like how they manipulate charts and doing All those payola. Like Newjeans Ambassador and Danielle Disney gig. They also got caught Buying Awards for Lesserafim in Music bank..

[@ITSLEMOON]

The who paved the way discussion is just another case of k-pop Stans misusing words without knowing the full meaning of it. When it comes to music a single person cannot pave for the way that’s literally impossible. Music is not something an individual can pave the way for so please stop saying that your faves pave the way for everyone else just because they’re big heavily targeted towards armies because y’all need to shut up and put that who paved the way discussion to rest it’s annoying

[@LovelyKissess]

If only

[@noobb499]

before kpop stans use the term "paved the way" they need to understand what an idol/group should before they can pave a way. And for what "way" is that??? paved the way for what???

[@neobongzzz]

I may be guilty of number 4, last time I shared my opinion on social media they thought I was hating 💀

[@daychild_]

completely agree abt the company stans ive witnessed WAY too many huge fights on kpoptwt just because ppl were immediately jumping to the defense of the company for whatever reason

[@sugarkonpeito]

okay but that cherish instrumental intro ate

[@00smodels]

Great take here.

[@sasha8345]

i’m struggling to not blame ador for my favorite nj member never getting the most lines/center time. i know there’s a lot of factors but i want to see her shine!!

[@calyyygrazie8]

Who?

[@calyyygrazie8]

@@benedettaaaaa_ yeah I thought so too

[@Verowinday777]

She is not really outstanding in dance (she is a good dancer but compared to the other members she is average) and vocals,but maybe they should give her some rap lines that would show off her rap potential (maybe even some easy and rhythmic rap lines would help !).

[@nodamsels4026]

i feel like nwjns is one of the groups where all the members are promoted really well

[@idk-xf6rd]

I really don't understand why kpop fandoms are filled with red flags, in the arabic side of the fandom (most childish delulu side i've ever seen) there were two influencers that went to the same samsung(??) event skz and wony went to and the comments were filled with childish stays comments saying they shouldn't intreact with a pick me disrespectful girl and go to skz instead cuz the op talked about how excited they were to see wony 💀 and when someone tried to defend wonyoung they would bring the whole group down and sayctheir music sucks

[@HeLlO__J]

What video was it?

[@49unghtHy]

Indians and Arabic kpop fans Most childish one.

[@idk-xf6rd]

@@HeLlO__J it was an instagram reel made by arab youtuber

[@danielhern3816]

a gg idol will do anythng and will instantly get called a "pick me girl"🙄

[@funinartcraftzz]

I agree with every point.. kpop fans as a whole are so problematic.. another point (acc to me) is telling ur opinion in every single thing . If there is a video and all the comments are positive and happy there will be someone who’ll type something negative and ruin the mood of everyone and create fanwars , like just keep ur opinion to yourself . Before I used to think 2nd gen paved the way but after watching a video of bora city magazine (about paving the way) , I kinda realised it was mostly the contribution of bts , but I came across some yt shorts which said other kpop groups had paved the way but I didn’t type anything cuz I didn’t want to waste my energy arguing about a simple point and talk to ppl (mostly kids) who wouldn’t understand it ..

[@StanChunghaOrGoHome]

This isn’t included but I find those that defend their fandom no matter what is a red flag. Or trying to seperate toxic fans from the fandom in an attempt to paint a fandom as better than it is. Fans always say “they’re not real fans if that say/do xyz”. Why can’t people accept that every fandom has toxicity, none is perfect or free from it? I don’t get the need to defend a fandom, I’m a blink and I’ve seen what some blinks have said and done. I could never stand by it personally.

[@youwerebeautiful9896]

all people are «pick-me» in their own ways. some fandoms need to shut up. they really can't compliment their favs without abusing other groups.

[@sarah0325_]

number 8 oh my god thank you I feel like stans really forget that this industry is literally manufactured to make money - it's business whether you like it or not, it shouldn't even be a hard truth It's just common sense

[@ShaylaEnoch-dw9fc]

FR! I swear if these kpop stans aren't complaining or defending one thing, they're completely complaining about or defending something else! It's literally giving pick me red flag vibes

[@ryujinlove6941]

Ur intro is so pretty 🫶

[@Angelssiq]

Wonyoung haters are so insecure jejzkzkzhhz

[@petkamoravcikova]

I think you might be misunderstanding the outrage over companies buying out as many other companies as they can. We know that it's standard business, but a lot of us just hate the concept of a single companie having monopoly over an industry. If one company dictates all the idol entertainment, they could very well adapt awful practices and everyone who enjoys the content would have to either give up on their hobby or stick with the shitty industry. I feel like purchasing a company should be incredibly taxed and smaller but steadily growing companies should receive tax benefits, so that there's always a variety of options on the market. It's not an opinion coming from a lack of understanding of business, it's the opposite.

[@Augustlaster]

I'm guilty of Number 7

[@su_uminjae]

same😭

[@gn.wook10]

same💀😭

[@thatpinkbicth]

Literally just yesterday I saw armys trying to trend HYBE APOLOGIZE TO JIMIN because of some lines from a game of some sort for BTS and the lines were Jimin basically saying he didn't think he was that talented or whatever. But like did it EVER occur to them that maybe this is what Jimin actually used to think? Maybe not anymore, but whether it was past or present doesn't even matter at this point. Would they then try to trend JIMIN APOLOGIZE TO JIMIN if Jimin came out and said he really did used to think like that? It really is so wild how adamant stans are about blaming the company for EVERYTHING.

[@cherryjwan_]

"HYBE APOLOGIZE TO JIMIN" was about jimin having to apologize for asking too much when he just asked if he could get more music videos for his album songs..... in this case. It was the company's fault. I hope we're on the same page bc i dont understand when this happened..

[@thatpinkbicth]

@@cherryjwan_ this was literally yesterday, and there were MANY tweets within that hashtag showing screenshots of some mobile game (or if it wasn't a mobile game it LOOKED like one), so I don't think this is the same situation. Then again, army have tried to trend similar things about all the other members MULTIPLE times, so who even knows at this point.

[@via45]

They use hashtags too much that they are basically useless for anything serious

[@thatpinkbicth]

@@via45 you're 100% right on that, it's basically impossible to take any of their hashtags seriously.

[@cherryjwan_]

@@via45 Ma'am just stfu kindly srsly ur so desperate

[@Angelssiq]

And the popularity, wins argument are too annoying too

[@yoanamitrova6852]

The fact that I agreed to all of these red flags you mention is kinda scary....😳

[@illi_tea]

How do you get your background videos?

[@soft4taeng]

i just use stage mix compilations you can find here on youtube

[@illi_tea]

@@soft4taeng thank you so much

[@hungrybae628]

0:35 SHOUT IT TO BLINKS

[@Jayla-yd2ii]

#5 sometimes they blame the members for "stealing" lines... like what?!?!? How could they steal lines? Anyways love the video

[@emuzq]

Guilty of number 4 and 9 😨😭

[@beomiebear304]

i swear if i see another stan throw around words like "___ is A pICK me" and "omg ____ is So aTtEnTion sEekIng" i will lose it. They really be thinking they're woke or sumn. I have a friend who forces herself to listen to her faves songs, even if she hates it. I walked into her room once and saw her nodding to a song even though she was not enjoying it and after it was done she replayed it so she could like it the next time.

[@ally-22]

5:16 TELL THEM LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK

[@JeonMiShy]

Wow this made me realize how good I had it in 2nd gen 👀👀 I mean that gen had some red flags I witnessed too, but nooooot like this

[@Hellokitty_391]

I might be unfunny but at least i don't stan someone out of pity 🤭

[@Binchanareangels]

Number4 the creator was definitely calling yall out

[@lukaaq4709]

22 seconds ago Also i agree eith the statements in the video

[@Eunwoo29409]

1st again love ur work ❤❤❤

[@soft4taeng]

Thank youuuu 🥰

[@user-jp3ep9kk2t]

Another one is hating ive

[@julaya.winter]

How do you know they are capable of having an opinion? 💀 what they are doing shows beautifully that they are not 💀

[@chae.vibess]

i would like to tell you with which ones i agree and disagree and my opinions… BUT i have the EXACT SAME OPINION 😅❤

[@purplhue]

this is why i only listen to the music now, the entire kpop community is so toxic

[@cinaberri]

side-eye

[@zeksecc]

I dont think bts fans took "paved the seriously" as much as kpop fans do like chill, they say it like every other kpop fan praising their groups. You can never find a army saying " xxx group didn't pave the way because 1,.2nd gen artsist did", but you always catch the kpop fans saying "my faves didn't pave the way and do does bts cuz psy and blah did it way before😭👍"

[@lunahime-j5c]

the robot voice tho 😂

[@aerii_11]

Heyyy there off topic but I agree that blackpink's not the most talented gg, I agree that jennie's performance is bad but does that mean i can't stan them? does that mean no one can praise them because bp's their fav ? does that mean we can't like blackpink?

[@PumpkinGoat-vn4lz]

Literally, all of these are weird as hell but nothing beats making and reading delusional fanfictions and POVs of kpop idols like come on, it's 2024. And then those people reading those fanfictions believe they can actually get their favourites and spread hate when those idols are dating. Weird right?

[@enzour]

Truth

[@JustaregularInsomnia]

12. they like every single boom boom boom remix le sserafim is dropping like i am sorry BUT WHY ARE THERE LIKE 103847563 OF THEM WE DO NOT CARE ANYMORE

[@1675loof]

What?

[@JustaregularInsomnia]

@@1675loof ok so yk how le sserafim has so many eve psyche and the bluebeards wife remixes? i'm just saying thats a red flag (as a joke btw pls dont take it personally)

[@1675loof]

@@JustaregularInsomnia 😂😂 I only saw one remix (that with the rappers) other than that I didn't see.

[@JustaregularInsomnia]

@@1675loof ohh lol

[@erenjeager4308]

The jealousy thing is so annoying really. Like when I say something about Wonyoung being cringe and not the prettiest girl in K-pop (not calling her ugly she very pretty) Wonyoung stans call me jealous and uglier than her. There’s nothing to be jealous about honestly. She’s just another K-pop idol to me but ppl put her on a high pedestal. It’s just really annoying… it’s also the reason why I don’t like her, but it’s not in hateful way. I see no reason in hating idols.

[@erenjeager4308]

Wait no way people actually do number 7💀

[@paris9700]

Do you receive money from your youtube videos?

[@muhammedaliibnuyusuf8747]

I'm Not An Army But For Me Bts Is The One Who Paved The Way For Kpop In Western,South Asia,Middle East&Latin American Countries And This Is My Opinion. . . Nb:Don't Base Your Opinion Against My Opinion. . . 😪😪😪

[@1675loof]

😑😑

[@noobb499]

am i the only kpop stan who doesn't take titles serious??? LIKE IT DOESNT MATTER IF "savage_blinkgirl3729" thinks jennie is a better rapper than soyeon??? Y'all neeed to get over it and go outside

[@edilychris]

Help I’m such a red flag 😭😘

[@danielhern3816]

hating nd shut talking a group just cuz they famous🤮

[@teddybearjelly640]

One thing kpop stans are always gonna do 99% of the time is bring up “jealousy” and “clout chasing” the moment a person addresses obvious issues in the industry or towards a certain situation that people have the right to bring up especially if it’s something serious 👩‍🦲

[@neobongzzz]

I may be guilty of number 4, last time I shared my opinion on social media they thought I was hating 💀