Harley-Davidson Sportster S vs Yamaha MT-09 SP

[@popdatclutch3010]

As a sport bike guy who test rode that sportster… I was shocked at how amazingly smooth and fast it was. Definitely a bike for sport guys to try

[@letsgobrandon6992]

I bought a 2023 and absolutely love it. Feels like I'm flying everytime I open it up.

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

big change in heat pouring off ?

[@popdatclutch3010]

@@ed.t.hansen6499 yes but no… the exhaust is right behind your leg and you can feel it but it’s not an issue

[@dougiequick1]

If only Harley had built what was it? The Boulevard or some dumb name? Mid controls lighter more agile more of a naked American take on Ducati.....Harley really screwed up abandoning THAT! I still refuse to look at Harleys until they build SPORT BIKES....Sport tourers....I guess their existing base has to die of old age first and the compan change hands....problem there is I also wont be around ....very sad company IMHO

[@davechris1789]

I loved my sportster s until I became disabled last October. I actually had the MT09 at the same time. I had to sell both because of my condition. Only thing I didn’t like about the sportster s is the rear section. It was always dirty from riding. Not a lot there to protect your clothes/ jacket. Always got the back of my jacket dirty and road grime on the fender. My MT09 couldn’t keep up with the sportster s. My poor brother-n-law tried and so did my son. My son has a 2021 Kawasaki 636 and light to light I would smoke him depending on the distance. The MT09 and the sportster s are both excellent bikes. Can’t go wrong with getting one or the other. Ride safe everyone.

[@wooshbait36]

nobody asked about your disability

[@p.c.h.6721]

Hi, did you become disable because of the Sportster or the MT09?

[@davechris1789]

@@p.c.h.6721 No. I had a massive heart attack in October 2021. When they saved my life they severed my femoral nerve in my right leg. So I can’t hold up a motorcycle anymore. Thanks for asking.

[@p.c.h.6721]

@@davechris1789 So they saved your life but they severed the femoral nerve of the right leg, I guess that’s a good trade of. Hope you’ve found some other hobby to keep yourself entertained. I told my wife about your comment thinking that you had an accident with one of the bikes, so my wife said “you’re not buying the Sportster” now I can tell my wife you never had an accident with the bikes, so let’s see what she says, I like the Sportster a lot! Thanks for explaining 👍

[@dhruvgangurde6567]

Hey man I'm really sorry to hear that hope you found something else to bring you happiness and fulfillment

[@borealmetalworx]

Sportster S - Absolutely love the direction they are going with this lineup. Agree 100% they need a street fighter set up along with the muscle drag platform

[@taylor2105]

Like Ducatis hypermotard best bike I've ever ridden, friggin love it. Just wish it was reliable...

[@milkeywhey2998]

Like Buell

[@dandrawsandskates]

agree, theyre due for an FTR competitor

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

needed a design for 2 up comfy riding. The stock seats are painful !

[@kodyking3090]

Short shifting the hell out of that 09 and gave him the hit.. Race a fair race

[@BlockheadMoto]

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[@adampierce9403]

man that sportster engine is gonna KILL when yall put it into more of a naked/streetfighter setup.

[@THUGPUTIN]

I just don't understand why they are not bringing that harley davidson bronx concept which the showcased..

[@XavierSturzl]

I switched to mid controls almost immediatley on my S. Highly, HIGHLY, recomend it, allows you to really get your butt off the seat for bumps and shift your weight better through corners. Feels much more like a naked with the mids. Im 6'2" and about 300 lbs for refference

[@valencia1135]

I did the same thing on my sportster s. It changed my ride drastically 👍

[@BlockheadMoto]

We're def gonna switch to mids!

[@corbinroberts949]

I'm 6'2" as well, is it small for you? I've owned a triumph Bonneville bobber and it was great but slightly small for me

[@taylor2105]

The forward controls really don't suit the bike at all. To be fair, forward controls suck on all bikes. It's just a look designers must think we want. If I want that foot forward seating position, hwy pegs would be fine on a cruiser. Like how Hondas goldwing is built.

[@Corhndog]

Needed to read this comment

[@SammyR34]

I feel like them pulls should have been much much closer, would like to see a rider switch and comparison.. The MT09 can do 0-60 in.. 3s and 0-100 in 5s. Rider is a definitely a factor. Love seeing the comparison though

[@ziahreid9269]

They switch riders at 13:07

[@mickclarke5741]

Sportster s 0-60 is 3.4 seconds from factory, also Harley davidson always play down numbers.

[@duskyrider-waqar9775]

Absolutely love the styling on the Sportster S and I am surprised by the power delivery on the HD..!! wow!!

[@edgardiaz2422]

Great video footage, audio, and review of the bikes! Both of you did a great job of talking through the pros and cons of the bikes as well as showing us great riding footage. I do have to say we have to keep in mind that the MT-09 is a lighter bike and bigger riders will not get the same performance out of the lightweight naked bikes as they would a heavy V-twin Harley Davidson. I'm 5'7" and roughly 155 lbs with gear on, on my 2015 FZ-09 there's never been a bike or vehicle that has pulled on me. I do have some upgrades on my bike but I have not flashed my ECU so my top speed is limited. I know from experience some heavier riders don't get the same performance out of the bike and they also bring up needing brake and suspension upgrades. I have zero complaints and all smiles from my bike!!!

[@garyrayner6330]

This was a awesome review, so very random, but I love the random match ups. Honestly thought the mt09 would smoke the Harley 😅 really really surprised how far Harley has come. I’m not a anti-Harley guy, but iv honestly never thought of owning one until this review.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!

[@PaulBilton]

I’m exactly the same. I’m test riding one this coming weekend!

[@Idlehandzx2]

Harley did the damn thing now we really need a naked and a real shit sports bike

[@ecrusch]

That's why I love my CMX1100DCT. Just what you said at the 8:00 mark. It's really hard to beat what you get with it for the price you pay. I rarely ride in Sport Mode in traffic around my house because it's just too easy to climb up onto the trunk of the car in front of me instantly. That Sportster is surprisingly quick though.

[@tomschwall4070]

Guys, go to a tune on the Sportster s, max out the parameters, throttle response etc. Then with the bike in neutral hold traction control button until you get a solid light on the traction control. Take it out for a cruise and hold the F on. There is a significant difference in power then just the sport mode.

[@jarrellllewellyn9199]

This is perfect timing , I currently own a 2017 MT09 and am about to test ride the sportster s as I’ve wanted since they teased the photos , I’m sure it’s going to be a hard decision!!!

[@thecoreelementsmoto]

The 2021 sp for that price is so nice. My fz09 was a champ but really needed the better fueling, quick shifter and abs. Now cruising on an ultra limited. When I can budget in a MT09 is a sure thing

[@tonykivanc]

Bro i just found a mt-09 gen2 with akra and quickshifter second handed, but i need to sell my 07 first. Hopefully i will get it sold on saturday!!!

[@Cbm10]

Just came across this channel. Have no idea how I missed it. I have a sportster s and she is a fast. Sold my Honda rc 51 for it to slow down. Well that didn’t work. and started posting vids on the changes I am been making on the bike. Anyway glad I came across this channel. Good vid👍

[@cullenkelley1059]

Out of curiosity, I want to see Goldzilla vs the sportster s in a roll race

[@Omni_Moto]

When you were doing test hits the MT-09 should have been in first gear. Second gear just seemed like RPMs were too low to even come close. A 1st gear pull from 25MPH would have given the 09 a much better chance when Block was riding.

[@issaf3676]

Homie looked scared to do a pull at higher RPM

[@malcadorthesigillite2541]

@@issaf3676 yeah he seemed gun shy. And he didn't have the engine in full power mode.

[@dkelli6020]

Dang, I knew the Sportster S could move, but wasn’t expecting all that

[@sebg2086]

but can move for how long before it blow

[@patrickfain9318]

Wow I did not expect the Harley to easily walk off and leave the mt-09

[@SLBPerformance]

The Sportster S is claiming nearly 30 more ft/lbs of torque so straight line pull absolutely. The cornering prowess of the Sportster is what I'd like to see. The large front tire and low peg height would be curious to see what it's capable of in more aggressive riding.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Doesn’t have near the lean angle and flickability as the MT09, but actually maneuvers very well as per the profile of the front tire (conical shape vs traditional.) MT09 would still win in the twisties though I think! 😁

[@cisa1622]

From your test I think the start-up and go HD sportsters S will lead . Maybe the traction is the key here. If MT09 is engineered to put all that power at start up and go with such low weight and smaller wheel base it will be no easy to control ( if you seen some sport car vs super sport bikes- sports bike struggle to keep the front end down at start up and go). The sportster S with longer wheel base and heavier stance( plus powerful torque engine) will lead at the start. But good to see sportster S fast. Can you test with MT10. Can you test on highway straight line . I always preferred heavier Harley-Davidson. I tried the MT09 and felt it so light to be uncomfortable( felt like a gravel on the road will be catastrophic for the rider).

[@toofastnobrakes]

@@BlockheadMoto look up kodlins 1 inch lift for the sportster s. It’s not a massive difference but defiantly better lean angle

[@MarkPalmer1000]

In light to light “dick races” the Sportster S will come out ahead of some sport bikes with its high torque and light weight. The Sportster S follows the platform of the V-Rod, and it’s nothing new anymore for Harley to step just a little bit out of their normal realm sometimes. They bolt a kick-butt, liquid cooled engine on to what amounts to the rest of the bike being a stylish but mediocre package and toss a $15,500.00 price tag on it. Professionally ridden at a strip, the Sportster S and MT-09 will run about the same times in the quarter mile. But throw a few curves in the road in real world riding, and the performance shortcomings of the Sportster S will become insurmountable by comparison. The MT-09 costs $6000.00 less than a Sportster S, so it's not hard to logically deduct what you're paying more for with Harley- Style and a name.

[@Skyerzen]

A friend of mine has a sportster S and tried following me in the twisties. Went wide after scraping and nearly went off the road. They suck for actual fun riding

[@quacktac]

With mids the Sportster S looks like a really compelling bike.

[@letsgobrandon6992]

Ive got a 2023 sportster s and absolutely love it. Its the 2nd bike ive bought and im so glad I did. Bought it right after my test ride and if you arent prepared it will make you scoot back. The fat tires make you feel squirrely and definetly makes you want to squid around and have fun.

[@KYLEOME]

Made my day. You used the term "of the get" And other than myself, I've never heard another human use that. Very cool.

[@Love4boost]

I am going to have to find someone with a Sportster S. I really don’t see myself losing to one.

[@mr.b3168]

lol

[@toofastnobrakes]

It’s got 360cc more displacment and makes crazy torque off the line. It comes down to the rider. But with the same person back to back the sporty is gonna be faster in a straight line

[@Love4boost]

@@toofastnobrakes I see someone scared to twist the throttle on one bike but comfortable twisting it on the other

[@adventuresofkeyfob9849]

Ooooh snap I just watched the video of you guys talking about this last night. Catching the stream on this one is great!

[@ganuvien]

MT09 is just so much value for the money and proven reliability. It's also cheaper to insure because it's not a liter bike yet pulls down low better than a liter bike.

[@BlockheadMoto]

True that! Great value for what you get 🤘🏼

[@joeburr7537]

Pretty tough to compare when the sportster is over 350 cc's bigger and over $3000 more. Obviously the MT is a way better value. Even the MT-10 has more power and a smaller engine than the sportster s.

[@CandyBarMoto]

...🤔 i would be interested in seeing it compared to the MT-10.

[@benaston5527]

Nothing related to vid but I’m taking my Apple Watch off when I ride now keeps thinking I’m dying and calling sos had to be on the phone with police for 30 mins 😂😂

[@BlockheadMoto]

I've had that happen, terrible 'oh sh!t' moment, lol

[@sabinorangel6868]

This is the type of content that made me subscribe!

[@veljkovic92]

For a more comparative acceleration, the MT09 should have started race with higher RPMs (like 7k+).

[@hermanstokbrood]

Yeah, I didn't understand this demonstration either.

[@kmkuehler]

Great vid Block. I’d love to see head that head pulls on the Sportster S vs Goldzilla.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Incoming!

[@TrustyT3k]

It would be really interesting to see the new Nightster vs the MT-09 since it would be a 975cc vs 890cc. Different style of bike obviously, but the motor size is a lot more equal match up than the 1250 Sportster S.

[@jordanjoestar8839]

horsepower difference is massive though.

[@davisasantos6739]

Its not a cubic inch differences that makes bikes math each others, for example, SuperDuke 1290 have very small engine but not fight 1200cc bikes, or BMW Nine T with 1200 approximately, It doenst fit even with smaller 1000cc bikes, Honda CB1300 doenst fight 1340cc Hayabusa, theres alot of examples.

[@gavin3810]

the rev range is a huge difference too im pretty sure the mt 09 is in D mode 2 which is a slower throttle response

[@XavierSturzl]

The mt09 would walk a nightster. My fiancé just got one. It's an awesome bike but its not even close to my sportster s. They made the nightster alot more beginner friendly

[@Puma_Concolour]

@@davisasantos6739 numbers wise, the MT-10 is still a closer match though it is still 40lbs lighter. The Sportster S has something more akin to a mutant Ducati v4 as it's powerplant, a good match for the i4 in the 10 (the 09 is a triple, runs closer to the Supersport class). Put someone light on the Harley and Block on the Yamaha, should settle the weight differences. Then it's off to the races.

[@brucewayne2495]

And the winner is..........Both Bikes!! Enjoy the ride! That was dope.

[@adammorris2570]

Really enjoyed this video. Picked up my Sporster S yesterday and god dam it’s quick!! Needs an exhaust though!!

[@MichaelBertini]

Definitely the Sportster S for me. 🤘🏼

[@DennisHoerr]

Great stuff! Can't wait for the Sportster S build and how it turns out.

[@Fittednocap]

This is a really good review from short to taller rider review of a bike. You should do more of these.

[@BEEBEE58679]

Plz, compare MT09 to Nightster. Then 2022 XSR900 to Nightster. Thanks. Keep up your great reviews.

[@p.c.h.6721]

I’m new to this channel, I was thinking of buying a V-Rod Muscle secondhand, but after this video, I’m buy the Sportster, I hope I don’t become disable

[@Fishinwill]

That's what I did. Almost became disabled on the 2nd ride. Hit a turkey at 60 mph.

[@p.c.h.6721]

@@Fishinwill A Turkey 🦃 🤣👍

[@travisspires3297]

Yes! I’ve been waiting for this type of comparison! I’m in between in which to buy right now.

[@ajpoolservices1149]

Nice review, I like everything about the Sporster S. The Yamaha is a nice looking bike too.

[@bry954rr]

The new sportster s is really quick. Id be a buyer if it came with mid controls

[@texastruckin9028]

just bought my sportster S, That motor is a beast.

[@theodorecalkins4212]

At 9:00 it appears you were sand bagging the MT by short shifting 7k RPM? The initial race at 13:00 with the MT on the left showed this.

[@BlockheadMoto]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3a4aqd7dtCti8k

[@sharpshooterusmc89]

Just because we've seen the mt09 next to goldzilla, need to take the sportster s and goldzilla to Mexico and see who wins. The give away road glide is freaking gorgeous

[@Puma_Concolour]

My question is how would the sportster stack up against something a little closer in the displacement department. Bring out the litre bike! MT10!!

[@lechtaczka1272]

What do you film this comparison with ? Great video quality, thanks.

[@BlockheadMoto]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4fHcqCYj9-WmpI

[@alwaystheblues]

Only a Harley with 1250cc would be compared to a 900cc metric bike. Great video nonetheless. Edit: love what Harley has done with the revolution liquid cooled engine on the PanAm, Sportser S, and Nightster

[@TheAsheybabe89]

Lol well their 975Cc doesn't make much less powerr than this MT09 either

[@alwaystheblues]

@@TheAsheybabe89 yeah that would be a much better comparison

[@rooster-zg4oo]

hp wise...what makes harleys is the torque, at the low and mid range. a lot of bikes show as much torque as a harley but you cant just twist the throttle while cruising and bolt. usually a downshift is required.

[@kenwalker4682]

Don't forget the mt90 is a 3 banger putting out less hp than the twin, plus that twin already is capable of 150hp without a displacement up grade. So hd is doing a nice job with this engine.

[@tg8150]

@@kenwalker4682 ok, what’s your point?

[@yamahansolo]

Isnt the top speed of the sportster s 120? The mt09 is faster according to other tests online?

[@steverobiston8247]

Great video!! I'd really love to see a test ride on the Yamaha R7!

[@porkscratchings5428]

I’m not sold on the new HD’s, had my heart set on a Sportster earlier his year but it didn’t do it for me. The older Sporters and 48’s looked like Harleys. I did look at the MT09 & 10, the 10 is insane, too much grunt for me, awesome for someone with bigger balls than me but I wouldn’t want to ride it in ‘Rain’ mode all the time as I’m an older dude but went for the XSR900 which suited me. Great comparison 👍

[@sgtpuddin2060]

That blue road glide I think it is a road glide. Got me thinking how the Blue Elephant project is coming along

[@fwg1961]

I have a 2019 Tracer 900GT and a 2021 HD Pan America special, both great bikes. All I can say I want the Rev-Max 1250 engine in a full fairing sport tourer like the FJR1300 but with chain drive.

[@LivinDaDrean]

Honestly this video is like a Harley paid promo for the sportster. I own and daily a 2021 MT09. TCS mode two limits low end power to keep the front end down on the MT09 and Drive mode 2 limits the throttle response. Run them with the MT09 in drive mode 1 and TCS mode M and you'll get all the power. MT09 rider was in too high of a gear for each pull and made it seem like its slower off the line than it is. Compare the sportster to the MT-10, its closer to the sportster in class Not to mention the Sportster starts at 16k and the MT09 is 9.5k

[@banundson]

Did not expect that!

[@toofastnobrakes]

Sportster s is great. Would like to see how it pulls next to the FTR

[@joeplem5329]

Was a bit surprised since I'm literally Justin size, the sportster s is so small in person and would definitely prefer mid pegs on it. I think my z900 would definitely be a closer comparison though 👍

[@toofastnobrakes]

I own a 21 z900. And I’ve test ridden the new sporty. The sportster S will walk away from my z900 off the line. But the Z will pass it on the top end

[@614XJ]

Love my Sportster S in black!

[@SandcastleAndy]

when you gonna do the Hyper naked S Build? love to see that !! - also is it really worth the extra 4 grand? you didnt say?

[@c00n3yl4nd]

Just bought an MT 09 SP this week, been looking around for awhile for one and just happened to walk into my local dealership and they had one in stock. Absolutely love this thing

[@iainpearce6379]

Really excited to see what you turn the sporty into also have you ever compared the mt09 with the triumph speed triple ??

[@connorr259]

God that bagger giveaway looks sick. I can't wait for the chance to win

[@dudestoneking]

Hey Block, my question is: if the Sportser S was out before you bought the MT09, which one would you have bought? great vid!

[@MrVR401]

Mt10

[@stavencapp]

fun fact, Dual disc's vs single disk front does NOT affect the bikes stopping power, under normal conditions. The only benefit dual disks has is heat dispersion and avoiding brake fade under regular and heavy braking, like on a track. Having 2 disks vs one does NOT increase the stopping power, because that is ultimateley limited by the traction the front tyre has. If the MT feels like it has better brakes, its because it has a better caliper and MC, and a larger rotor, Not because its dual disk. The only factors that affect the bikes stopping power is the size of the rotor, the size of the caliper and how many pistons it has, and the traction of the front tyre.

[@tg8150]

But adding all of that on the other side doesn’t increase stopping power. Yeah, you’re right. That’s why all GP bikes only have one functioning front brake rotor up front. The other one’s just there for added weight and appearance. You’re such a smart dude!🤣

[@donrudeboyt1895]

Sportster S vs Indian FTR.. They have similar specs, just different styling.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Comparison video coming soon! 🤘🏼

[@KSMotoCafe]

Sportster S on straights and MT09 on twisties!

[@Christopher-rw7wk]

I love these comparison vids!!

[@ChaseJasperDown]

Great video man. Thanks for sharing!

[@dwaynesullivan4560]

that sportster will be in the weeds 2 mins into chasing that Yamaha

[@ethenjordan2010]

Mt 09 all day. It’s more fun. Idc about straight away

[@BlockheadMoto]

They’re both fun bikes for sure 👍🏼

[@ethenjordan2010]

It’s also like 8k more than a regular MT09 so

[@BlockheadMoto]

We posted prices of both right at the beginning, so….

[@STIjojoSTI]

Wish in future harley models they will come out with a lighter weight model with standard size front & rear tires for handling.

[@dwaynesullivan4560]

MT-09 0-100mph 5.8 seconds you're talking 'kooky talk'.

[@BAMK]

I was looking for a comparison of exactly these 2 bikes today

[@dipjothipaul5868]

Would this sportster be a good choice for a first bike? Beginner no experience

[@toofastnobrakes]

No

[@andrewq0907]

I’d say that seating configuration gives that Sportster S a way scarier feeling while accelerating

[@zabronzkee731]

having rode the sportster s during my harley dealerships demo day, i knew the outcome of this video before even watching lmao sportster s is no joke. it's ridiculous

[@musiccars4072]

Just subscribed, super curious about the hyper naked HD!!! Greetings from Portugal.

[@chrisnunley2399]

the Block Fighter

[@markmcintosh7095]

I'm getting one I was on the fence but after watching this I'm sold.

[@choompa]

12:52 Nice Honda VFR 750F Off bet, I'd take the Honda VFR 750F

[@danielclark5170]

For the money , I'd rather have a Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki or Yamaha motorcycle. 15,999$ for a Harley Davidson Sportster. That's way too much for a Sportster, and the motor looks like it came from a japanese bike. But yamaha has helped design Harley engines for at least 10-15 years. For 3-4k more you could buy a Kawasaki vaquero.

[@vvega007]

Cool video. But can you try it against a Ktm super moto 1290 …. Or a mt10 would have been a bit more fair . Harley has really stepped up thou !! The new sportster S is looking like the cruiser to have

[@danmancino22]

I think the ktm would be over kill. Pretty sure the mt10 could take it

[@vvega007]

@@danmancino22 the Ktm would sound better doing it thou :)

[@fernominal]

I had my preferences, when I first saw the Sportster S! But now that it has sunk into my mind, I like it just the way it is! I like the long wheelbase it has, for a Sportster, but still capable of wheelies! Not that I'll be doing wheelies on purpose, but if the front end comes up while giving it the throttle, it'll be fine with me! Seems like a fun bike! How good does it cruise at highway speeds? (70 - 80mph)

[@bharsen]

Anything past 80mph and you're really fighting wind with your body. I've been up to 133mph and I was hanging on for dear life because of wind resistance. I'm sure if I hugged the tank it would be a bit better to deal with. That being said it felt super stable at those speeds, no death wobble or anything.

[@letsgobrandon6992]

I just wish the sound was better. I love my sportster s and have a slip on and fender elimator ordered.

[@bigblue3568]

6:55 Publix in Mexico.. what are they like?

[@BlockheadMoto]

Spicier, lol

[@davisasantos6739]

Looks like Harley make Sportster S really sport 🤩

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

comments on the heat pouring out on both; sitting at lights; 80 degF outside ?

[@Markotto09]

The water cooled aspect is very appealing out here in Las Vegas for a daily rider. My TC is not a fan of the heat.

[@powamoto]

Great episode can't wait to sena connect and ride out Florida style 😎🤟🦾

[@jamesozment1]

I would love to see an H2 ninja vs sportster s . Obviously sportster s doesn't go 247 mph but from a dig to maybe 110 or so.

[@bharsen]

H2 would demolish the S at any speed. Even the MT09 is faster than the S both riders being equal. Although not by very much. Fastest MT09 pass in the 1/4 mile I've seen was like 10.6. Best I've run on my Sportster S is 10.93. Fastest Sportster S pass I've seen was 10.8.

[@franko8572]

Video opens and hits us with *filmed in Mexico* as my guy immediately passes a “speed limit 35” sign in English. 😂🤣😂🤣

[@Blade-Storm-Anderson]

You need to race the fu sportster vs sportster s

[@michaelirwin3038]

Let’s get the FTR & Sportster S on a video to compare those beasts!!!

[@jamesphelps9573]

Harley dropped the ball on not making the Bronx.

[@gjrip]

Yet! (Hopefully)

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

MT with a great 5" color tft that HD should have on all its softails.

[@Rowski420]

What I concluded from this video? Blockheads buddy is a way better rider. Blockhead looks like he was hitting dabs before those races.

[@Firestorm637]

Both bikes make similar horsepower. Sportster around 80 pounds heavier but 300 cc torque advantage

[@MastaKeahi]

I really do like the sportster S but not being able to ride two up and have limited storage options kinda makes me not want to get it