Harman Target Curve - Flawed Science

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Scientific Audiophile

Scientific Audiophile

Күн бұрын

The Harman Target Curve is not only based on flawed science, but the Scientific Audiophile uncovers PROOF that Harman reseachers based the curve on RACISM!
Special thanks to ‪@DekoniAudio‬ for exposing Harman!

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@Jack-oc2fc
@Jack-oc2fc 2 жыл бұрын
GUYS DON'T BUY IT. This is fake news propagated by TSA (Terrorist Sound Authority).
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile 2 жыл бұрын
Audio Jack is clearly a shill for the Harman Audio Group. Remember you can't spell Harman without "HARM"!
@Jack-oc2fc
@Jack-oc2fc 2 жыл бұрын
@@scientificaudiophile Harman. Harm-Man?? This is all the proof we need that Harman is a radical feminist organization!
@arty8267
@arty8267 Жыл бұрын
@@scientificaudiophile You are St*pi*d AF
@amirfakhri7296
@amirfakhri7296 Жыл бұрын
True,they don't know the real one,no good sound ,huawei as target enemy to harman kardon family audio.
@amirfakhri7296
@amirfakhri7296 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't know jbl .
@Sharur1
@Sharur1 2 жыл бұрын
Reaction video coming soon
@Elliott-Designs
@Elliott-Designs 2 жыл бұрын
This was so funny. I mean technically the paper published doesn't say that's the exact curve it should be, it says that's the range of responses you'd get with an anechoic flat response speaker, but in an ideal room. So high frequency drop off and slope could be different from the response curve depending on high frequency directionality. But yeah, Harmon's research is totally sound, and represents what audio engineers use when mixing. We want to reproduce what those mixing engineers hear (assuming their setup is the ideal), hence the Harman Curve research. But some do misunderstand that high frequency fall off which is a shame
@brianm2850
@brianm2850 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. In some double blind tests they were also wearing a funny white hood. You can't hear headphone audio properly that way.
@1337wafflezz
@1337wafflezz 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@sandramuncelli7976
@sandramuncelli7976 11 ай бұрын
That’s very funny. I don’t know if everyone will get that you were joking, especially about the curve you’re recommending using. Thankfully in point of fact, good research has been done and continues to this date.
@town_mane
@town_mane Жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm really boutta drop a whole fucking essay over here. I would like to point out two things.. Firstly, (and i may well be wrong here) having something covering your ears would muffle mainly the high end frequencies due to the low frequencies having more power and thus being able to travel through the felt more easily, where as the high frequencies are less powerful and more likely to dissipate when attempting to move through the felt. This is why if you're outside a car, or a club, or underwater listing to music being played above the surface, the sound you are hearing is very boomy and bass heavy. Having something covering your ears would make the sound MORE bass heavy than if there was no blindfold covering the ears, so the notion that one would prefer to hear more bass in this situation (implying that there is a lack of bass content) is kindof illogical when based on this premise. This is my basic understanding of soundwaves that I've picked up from the book 'the science of musical sounds' by Johan Sundberg, which I highly recommend, it's a good read. I just wanted to put that out there for the fuck if it, but all of this is more or less irrelevant because I'm pretty sure that's just a stock image of someone wearing a blindfold. Not sure if that's actually what the blindfold operation looked like or not. Moving on to the racism. I want to make it clear that the following is mostly just my opinion. I do feel like there is validity there. Like, all these artists are white as fuck, and this is the reason that I do kindof have a beef with the harman curve tbh (from the very small amount of info I've uncovered about it). I think that the problem though was, and probably still is, present in the systemic racism within the music industry. If you are white, it's much much easier to get your hands on a music deal, or have the money to get a professional to produce, mix, or master your music. This, especially back before the whole wave of self-produced music, is why there were indeed a shit load of white artists on the radio and record deals, and why many black artists who got deals were pretty heavily white washed I think. Unfortunately, it does make sense that harman would use these songs from white musicians, because these were likely well mixed, high quality, COMMERCIALLY TASTEFUL songs. I say commercially tasteful because these songs by white artists are probably what were most palatable for white listeners when they were recorded. I personally fuck with not only non white artists (as I think most should, i mean wtf right?), but I also love a good lofi recording, and especially stuff that's not as commercially acceptable. Speaking of listeners, I also have a problem with the demographic of our test subjects. This again is my opinion, but I think that audiophiles and "trained listeners" such as the ones that the study was conducted on, might have a different preference in terms of eq curve than that of the majority of people. The general public is not trained to hear distortions in audio signals, nor are they listening to music through high quality headphones, and I bet most of them aren't listening to these white artists with professional mixes and yes, pretty low bass content. I think that only testing your eq curve on the most skilled ears leaves a lot of the humanity out of the equation. In conclusion, I do agree that the harman curve, as well as the testing and research that went into it, is probably flawed. I just wanted to add onto what you were saying above So that's my little rant. Hope you've enjoyed, and have a good day :)
@pasi123567
@pasi123567 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I was so blinded and couldn't see the racism of Harman 😢
@The_Chad_
@The_Chad_ Жыл бұрын
Some of the best dry satire I've ever seen!
@mhobag
@mhobag 2 жыл бұрын
why yes i do think this is the best channel on youtube
@reticulatedralphie7176
@reticulatedralphie7176 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly, in today's climate, the most important issue confronting us all is racism, and there is nothing more racist than flawed science. Thank you for bringing this important topic to the community's attention. You're doing Darwin's work.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO! This is quickly becoming one of my favorite YT channels, love the thought process that went into this.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 11 ай бұрын
That makes absolutely sense. We are being fooled on daily basis, tomorrow they'll chase another pig through the town. Thank you for brightening my brain! From now onwards I will only use the Kim Kardashian curves.
@fsi2210
@fsi2210 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, brilliant. So many people missed that this is satire.
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile 2 жыл бұрын
Including @Sharur it seems.
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile 2 жыл бұрын
PS: Not satire.
@bfzsgaming6068
@bfzsgaming6068 2 жыл бұрын
Good job keeping a straight face through the whole video. I would have pissed myself laughing in the middle of reading the script.
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing funny about bad science and racism. Easy to keep a straight face, it was the vitriol and anger I held back.
@giladkingsley
@giladkingsley 2 жыл бұрын
@@scientificaudiophile 😂
@LARDDDD
@LARDDDD 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the photo of the person with the blind photo just some stock image?
@georgeweah9717
@georgeweah9717 Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂 I love your sense of humor. Great video.
@johnolson4977
@johnolson4977 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for fighting the good fight ….
@darrellross8609
@darrellross8609 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Epic. Pure Copper Cables Matter. Best, D.
@Elliott-Designs
@Elliott-Designs 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I feel some somehow won't see the blatant satirical nature of this video 🤦‍♂️🤣
@Dan-pi6dx
@Dan-pi6dx 2 жыл бұрын
???
@Elliott-Designs
@Elliott-Designs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dan-pi6dx satirical comedy, a kind of ironic comedy where something is portrayed as being true even though it blatantly isn't. Because everyone knows it isn't true, it makes it funny
@Dan-pi6dx
@Dan-pi6dx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elliott-Designs but this isnt that ?
@Elliott-Designs
@Elliott-Designs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dan-pi6dx I can't tell if you believe that or are just joking? 😂
@niccster1061
@niccster1061 4 ай бұрын
​@@Dan-pi6dxdumbass
@spacejaime
@spacejaime 10 ай бұрын
That H/KKK curve looks pointy at the top! Surprisingly similar to...oh well, we all know.
@Foxy_proxy
@Foxy_proxy 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate the harman curve. It sounds like someone put a wet cloth over my headphones when I EQ it using Oratory1990's settings for my headphones. It just makes my DT1990's sound like some generic 20 euro headphones.
@SlenderHime
@SlenderHime 2 жыл бұрын
It's RACISSSSMM!
@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748
@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 2 жыл бұрын
4:13 so this , this . do you have star trek 2 the wrath of khan on DVD and Alien 3 on DVD . double how about quadruple bind test . oh there is some highs that i bet you not even noticed ? and there is two sides to this . i ain't saying . also never heard of scientific audiophile , i have heard of audio science review asr .
@KeithCopeland778
@KeithCopeland778 Жыл бұрын
I just found out about the Harman Curve. You make great observations about the Dekoni video!!!! While I respect the research that Harman has done, I don't understand how one altered EQ curve can improve the sound of all headphones.
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr Жыл бұрын
Very funny. Harmon curve does sound too bassy though.
@tenninetwentytwo
@tenninetwentytwo 2 жыл бұрын
Is he serious?
@kaz8297
@kaz8297 Жыл бұрын
when did you realize this was a joke. for me it was 2:40
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr Жыл бұрын
'Infiltrated by swingers'
@sloboat55
@sloboat55 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't stare into the camera like that, it freaks me out.
@emjay9733
@emjay9733 2 жыл бұрын
BUSTED! 🤣
@carlb86
@carlb86 Жыл бұрын
The best curve isn't a curve at all! Ya played yourself harmen! It's supposed to be flat to perfecly reproduce those reels from the studio.
@supergman312
@supergman312 Жыл бұрын
Well that was hilarious haha
@bizkac
@bizkac 2 жыл бұрын
that fan in the background tho (and I am not talking about myself)
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile 2 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when your parents complain its too hot in the house. They're so selfish, they wouldn't let me turn it off.
@bizkac
@bizkac 2 жыл бұрын
looks like they haven't been listening to pipe organ music lately... They are complaining a lot
@chrisstroud60
@chrisstroud60 2 жыл бұрын
With my ears covered I'd want boosted treble. Not boosted bass. The Harman is just a safe tuning that will probably be preferred by most people but I don't believe tuning is everything
@wjp04
@wjp04 2 жыл бұрын
Throwing away my Floyd Toole book right now. Thank you for disproving this target and exposing its racism 🫡
@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748
@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 2 жыл бұрын
oh , no , now there be , floyd toole book burning now .
@giladkingsley
@giladkingsley 2 жыл бұрын
Haha great funny video
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but next time leave out 'funny'. Nothing funny about flawed science and racism.
@giladkingsley
@giladkingsley 2 жыл бұрын
@@scientificaudiophile ?
@giladkingsley
@giladkingsley 2 жыл бұрын
@@scientificaudiophile it's literally a stock image of a women blindfolded, not a Harmon research picture. "woman wearing black blindfold facing sideways photo - Unsplash"
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile 2 жыл бұрын
@@giladkingsley Convenient how you seem to be supporting Harman. Are you a paid shill? Sure it’s a stock image today, after 17 years everything falls into the public domain. Why do you ignore the racism?
@giladkingsley
@giladkingsley 2 жыл бұрын
@@scientificaudiophile the camera that captured this picture is the canon 77d was released at 2017, and the photographer published the picture at July 8, 2018. The photo is also 24mp which wasn't really around 17 years ago
@24h_
@24h_ 2 жыл бұрын
headphone
@LDdrums20
@LDdrums20 8 ай бұрын
Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂
@burzasardaukar
@burzasardaukar 11 ай бұрын
Is this a parody, isn't? Specially the racism part. You forgot to add some joke about "white" noise!
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile 11 ай бұрын
Damn! White noise would have been brilliant.
@DekoniAudio
@DekoniAudio Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@vineetkumar3422
@vineetkumar3422 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@jhovendrass5612
@jhovendrass5612 2 жыл бұрын
Racism? no way...
@giladkingsley
@giladkingsley 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like a stock image
@nabbeunkamja
@nabbeunkamja 2 жыл бұрын
Is that the excuse that Harman is using?
@giladkingsley
@giladkingsley 2 жыл бұрын
@@nabbeunkamja 😂
@nyantheburrito839
@nyantheburrito839 2 жыл бұрын
racist is good
@lug.5329
@lug.5329 26 күн бұрын
Is this a parody? Satire? Comedy sketch?
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile 26 күн бұрын
You think overt racism at Harmon is some kind of joke? ☹️
@lug.5329
@lug.5329 26 күн бұрын
@@scientificaudiophile I think S.H.A.G. is the giveaway.
@alteredanimesh
@alteredanimesh Ай бұрын
I don't know what to say man, this sounds so fake
@tylou4479
@tylou4479 5 ай бұрын
Most stupid thing I have heard
@scientificaudiophile
@scientificaudiophile 5 ай бұрын
I know, but some people don’t think like us and swear by the Harman target curve.
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