Has Britain Internalised Sharia Law? Rushdie, Radical Islam and the Threat to Free Speech

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@ICENI-Britannica
@ICENI-Britannica 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t care about their religious sensibilities; if they don’t accept our right to free speech and expression in our own country, they should return to a country that conforms to their religious beliefs. There should be absolutely zero tolerance of their acts of violence. Our so called political elites need to grow a spine.
@benjamin4894
@benjamin4894 2 жыл бұрын
They won't grow a spine while the people keep re-electing them!
@DAVID4872
@DAVID4872 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, just remember the eatabishment is using the Muslim religion to devide soceity, so we are easily enslaved. Unitited we stand divided we fall, we need a strong political party to represent soceity
@imarcher6629
@imarcher6629 2 жыл бұрын
Repatriation is the only option if we want our society to survive.
@wayneabel5421
@wayneabel5421 2 жыл бұрын
@@imarcher6629 dispatching to where I don't care...
@Brecconable
@Brecconable 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayneabel5421 North Korea.
@whylie74
@whylie74 2 жыл бұрын
another church was burnt to the ground with the congregation still inside, in egypt just a week or so ago and not a peep on the mainstream news.
@audreyblack8629
@audreyblack8629 2 жыл бұрын
If you go to the 'Open Doors' charity site, you can see that attacks on Christians and churches are increasing in many countries with Islam followers. 10 churches in France were mysteriously burnt to the ground last year.
@valeriegrimshaw1365
@valeriegrimshaw1365 2 жыл бұрын
Mainstream media are SCARED witless to put their heads above the parapet and do their actual job.
@AdrianAK6
@AdrianAK6 2 жыл бұрын
We are trying to accommodate a group that will never be accommodated.The more we concede the bolder they will get.
@albert21able
@albert21able 2 жыл бұрын
Islam is totally incompatible with Western Civilisation.
@marleneclough3173
@marleneclough3173 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@helenb1996
@helenb1996 2 жыл бұрын
My great concern is that “we” seem to bow down to extreme Islam - no one in authority has stood up for example the Batley teacher , Cineworld , all those poor Rotherham girls groomed …. We all need to stand up for our British values of free speech , freedom of expression and also tolerance !
@rogeralsop3479
@rogeralsop3479 2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@whitelines3097
@whitelines3097 2 жыл бұрын
Our Tolerance is what they use to undermine us
@Project-Masculinity
@Project-Masculinity 2 жыл бұрын
Not just Rotherham…
@earlgreystoke3324
@earlgreystoke3324 2 жыл бұрын
@Helen B No such thing as "extreme islam"...there is only islam. Have you read the koran, sahih hadith, sira & sharia? Do you know anything about the ideology?
@rogeralsop3479
@rogeralsop3479 2 жыл бұрын
@@earlgreystoke3324 Correct
@wayneabel5421
@wayneabel5421 2 жыл бұрын
Know islam no peace No islam know peace....
@JohnGeometresMaximos
@JohnGeometresMaximos 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice! 👍🏻
@rosem5041
@rosem5041 2 жыл бұрын
Utter nonsense.
@djtrainspotter
@djtrainspotter 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosem5041 Low IQ bot. . .
@johntheaccountant5594
@johntheaccountant5594 2 жыл бұрын
Britain has Internalised Sharia Law and it is not reversible. Some people warned the councils and government of the situation arising more than 20 years ago but they were accused of being racist and the government and MSM said that diverse multiculture was what makes the UK such a great place. I wonder when an area in the UK like Bradford, Luton declare themselves independent states. If that is the case then going by what happened with Nato and Kosovo, then the UK government could not object. Most +55 year old proper British people have given up on the situation as they know that it is no longer reversible and count themselves fortunate enough not to have to live too much longer through it or have plans to leave the UK.
@rogeralsop3479
@rogeralsop3479 2 жыл бұрын
It IS reversible.
@angusdesire
@angusdesire 2 жыл бұрын
Already left, 60 years old and enjoying life. No, it isn't reversible, hence there are thousands of over 50 Brits in Eastern Europe.
@earlgreystoke3324
@earlgreystoke3324 2 жыл бұрын
@John The Accountant. "....not reversible"? Nonsense. Read more history John. => REBIRTH OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION BATTLE OF TOURS (732) Charles Martel defeats Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi, FIRST CRUSADE (1095) Pope Urban II helps Byzantine Emperor Alexios I Komnenos SIEGE OF MALTA (1565) 500 Knights Hospitaller defeat 40,000 Ottoman Turks under Suleyman I BATTLE OF LEPANTO (1571) John of Austria defeats Sufi Ali Pasha in naval battle, BATTLE OF VIENNA (1683) John III Sobieski slaughters 15,000 mohammedan soldiers commanded by Grand Vizier Kara Mustafa Pasha SURRENDER OF MUDROS (1918) Admiral Somerset Arthur Gough-Calthorpe defeats Ottoman Turkish Army under Rauf Bey.
@kitbag9033
@kitbag9033 2 жыл бұрын
It is reversible with effort. Medieval, backward rules will find that today's youth have no interest. The young will rise up and strip these grifters of every aspect of the site being imposed by inane socio/ Marxist theories. Theories discredited over the .ast century
@WG1807
@WG1807 2 жыл бұрын
@@angusdesire How marvellous that you've all run away. Did people run away in the past, most notably 1939?
@alexpheasants
@alexpheasants 2 жыл бұрын
I never signed up for multiculturism and nor did anyone else, we've never been asked to vote on this most fundamental of all questions. In a referendum it would never have won. The mixture of cultures to this degree is insane. British culture is fine as it was. Why on earth would you bring in a religion which has such a large percentage of zealots, many of whom are just staying quiet but believe in Fatwa's etc. This sort of thing pretty much vanished decades ago in Britain and we're all the better for it. This constant rule amongst the woke set that you must aim to be multicultural, diverse, etc etc. why? Why is this something so marvellous? Surely all animals on this planet look for others like them so that they can communicate better and have more in common, we all do this. Why on earth would you keep wanting to find as many people different to you and put them together? Utter madness, it's leading to the fragmentation of this country and I bet will have devastating consquences over time.
@haroldhamilton8574
@haroldhamilton8574 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@Chris-gs8kc
@Chris-gs8kc 2 жыл бұрын
Even David Cameron eventually admitted that multiculturalism had failed in Britain.
@jannenreuben7398
@jannenreuben7398 2 жыл бұрын
I think Multiculturalism was just a tacit admission that the British state had completely lost control of its own borders and immigration policy.
@valeriegrimshaw1365
@valeriegrimshaw1365 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Bliar did too and he wanted to 'rub our noses in It'
@kipsome45
@kipsome45 2 жыл бұрын
In this increasingly insane world, it’s refreshing to see three intelligent people discuss and articulate (what I consider to be) voices of reason. Bravo. The only distraction is provided by Emma’s radiant beauty.
@Patrick3183
@Patrick3183 2 жыл бұрын
Why has Britain allowed this
@johnatkinson7479
@johnatkinson7479 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t Britain..it was a nexus of liberal and leftist ideas pushed by political means
@thelamington8195
@thelamington8195 2 жыл бұрын
Britain has continued to ‘feed the hand that bites it’. Sadly, this outcome is no surprise at all.
@lmg7503
@lmg7503 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion, and do keep up this particular conversation.
@ladyfaye8248
@ladyfaye8248 2 жыл бұрын
yes, I have been having a go at getting people together locally to talk on this subject. So far, its an uphill struggle. There is an absolute need for full dialogue about islam and the west.
@rogeralsop3479
@rogeralsop3479 2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@yvettevernet4759
@yvettevernet4759 2 жыл бұрын
Yes,this is so important.
@AB-kc3yc
@AB-kc3yc 2 жыл бұрын
Make it easier by watching these yt videos by "Robert Spencer" he is particularly eloquent. [everything is referenced]. He was advisor to the US security and intelligence.
@rogeralsop3479
@rogeralsop3479 2 жыл бұрын
@@AB-kc3yc I've read his books and you're right.
@AB-kc3yc
@AB-kc3yc 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogeralsop3479 👍
@stephendavies9029
@stephendavies9029 2 жыл бұрын
I think my overriding feeling on this subject is frustration. Frustration that these atrocities occur with no more than cursory platitudes from the powers that be, metaphorically, light a candle, sing don't look back in anger, then wait for the next one.
@benjamin4894
@benjamin4894 2 жыл бұрын
It's just 'part and parcel' of living in a big city!
@penfro
@penfro 2 жыл бұрын
Singing ‘Don’t Look Back in Anger’ was pathological, an utter insult. If you’re not going to be angry over a massacre you need a psychiatrist.
@lapamful
@lapamful 2 жыл бұрын
I am equally glad and amazed to hear such a discussion coming from Britain. I've been working abroad the last few years, and looking back on Blighty, it really changes your perspective on things. It's utterly amazing, like the proverbial elephant in the room, just how far left British culture is, the Overton Window to be more precise. The left are so firmly in control of so much that is said and thought in Britain, it takes a lot of bravery to even say the things that are said in this video. There are two things that are becoming increasingly clear to me. Firstly, is just how much the left support this enemy within, and secondly, it is hard to overstate just how evil this enemy is.
@randlemcmurphy4983
@randlemcmurphy4983 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@leigh-mariehamilton3361
@leigh-mariehamilton3361 2 жыл бұрын
Lapamful, the people on the Left who support this 'it's their culture ' are obviously all married or heterosexual virgins! They 'the Left' never show an inch of flesh and naturally their wives,, sisters and daughters NEVER leave the house alone or talk to a male because that would naturally Dishonour the family! Sadly too many of the Far Left are totally unaware of Extremist Islam and how it will eventually affect them.
@hughoxford8735
@hughoxford8735 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why immigration has to be a one way street. Are we saying that our grandchildren shouldn't have a country of be free from Islamism because of the immigration decisions made by a civil servant under a malicious former prime minister such as Blair? Is that supposed to be an irreversible and permanent state of affairs? Are we forever to have to live with these important problems? As far as I can see, all these people DO have countries they could be deported to. We don't have anywhere to go.
@rosem5041
@rosem5041 2 жыл бұрын
No love the mideast was bombed so they want to come here. Fickle memory
@beecat9951
@beecat9951 2 жыл бұрын
​@@rosem5041 then why are those young and able bodied men who have migrated to England not there rebuilding their bombed countries? Instead, they have chosen to leave their elderly, infirm, destitute, vulnerable countrymen men, women and children to rot. And, speaking of fickle memories, when London was bombed in world war ii, we didn't have a mass exodus of Londerners whining about it. They rebuilt their city instead. That's generally the best course of action following war.
@rosem5041
@rosem5041 2 жыл бұрын
@@beecat9951 no south asians and jamaicans/black people were called over to rebuild england. Secondly the men probably want to earn money so they can rebuild their country. They have lost family members, homes and have left out if sheer desperation. Don’t look down on others from your high horse!
@Gioachino_Orsini
@Gioachino_Orsini 2 жыл бұрын
@@lt5456 Preach brother! One word: Godlessness. The more we Europeans stray away from God almighty the more "plagues" just like those given to the Ancient Egyptians, as mentioned in the book of Exodus, will appear somehow, somewhere near or in this case within the United Kingdom. Jesus is the cornerstone my brother of EUROPEAN society. European values, democratic values are based in Judeo-Christian principles. We can't hide from our Christian roots. Do you know what this plague is in our nation brother? A clear judgement from God for absolutely abandoning God in all ways possible. Simply look at our churches in the UK and Western Europe in general, full of white haired men and women with little to nothing of teenager, young people. Israel was not spared for abandoning God as shown several times in scripture nor will us be spared. I can honestly feel the presence of God in your text. Reminds me of John the Baptist. Amen! May you continue to be filled of the Holy Ghost! 🔥🔥🔥👏👏👏FIRE!
@jazztheglass6139
@jazztheglass6139 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosem5041 The Iran-Iraq war started in 1980, didn't see refugees then. Then Ethiopia had a civil, Somalia collapsed round the same time, the Russians invaded Afghanistan. It's not our problem or concern. Our grandparents didn't evacuate during World War 2
@wurlitzer895
@wurlitzer895 2 жыл бұрын
The recent Hatun Tash incident at Speakers' Corner springs to mind.
@chrisnieto5547
@chrisnieto5547 2 жыл бұрын
If someone tells you they are a peace loving moderate Muslim, the acid test is to ask them what they think about the Fatwa on Rushdie. You will soon see how peace loving they are.
@johnatkinson7479
@johnatkinson7479 2 жыл бұрын
I think a majority of Muslims are partly sympathetic to radicals or at least indifferent to worries from indigenous brits, this ov course gets worse as demographics shift as we know they are doing
@davidparris7167
@davidparris7167 2 жыл бұрын
Calling this behaviour ''radical islam'' is a cop out. It is just islam.
@AB-kc3yc
@AB-kc3yc 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@ashleymey3144
@ashleymey3144 2 жыл бұрын
We came to this country 20years ago and I have seen this country change for the worse. No more Great Britain. Our leaders have a lot to answer for
@TheLincolnrailsplitt
@TheLincolnrailsplitt 2 жыл бұрын
The QC Joylon's 'punching down' accusation against Rushdie is extraordinarily risible and heartless. I agree wholeheartedly with Kisezley's assessment of the referenced QC's tweet as "gaslighting".
@roygardiner2229
@roygardiner2229 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, Enoch.....you were right. You were right. Nobody will concede that but...you..were..right. That is a fact. Thanks for your channel, and for your excellent discussions. Regarding why reactions are increasingly muted, I believe that people like me have lost the belief that the government, police, universities, broadcasters will contest these developments. Resignation has, clearly, permeated them all. Hence the popularity of a channel like yours. It is a beacon of hope, open thinking and free speech.
@rogeralsop3479
@rogeralsop3479 2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@altudy
@altudy 2 жыл бұрын
Enoch was right? Yes, I take your point, but he was like a prophet who dimly foresaw what was to come. Enoch thought of the consequences of immigration in terms of race and culture. What in fact he didn't realise was that immigration would result in the importation of a religion totally antithetical to western values. So yes, Enoch was 'right' but just got some of the details wrong.
@matthewlynas5089
@matthewlynas5089 2 жыл бұрын
Enoch was most certaing right and his warning disgracefully suppressed.
@valeriegrimshaw1365
@valeriegrimshaw1365 2 жыл бұрын
Churchill warned in a letter in 1899...of the evils of the cult
@davidcarson2696
@davidcarson2696 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting conversation. We should never condone or celebrate any extremists from any religion who are given to violence, injury or murder, whether in speech or by action.
@brumman2623
@brumman2623 2 жыл бұрын
We should not condone or celebrate any religion. It has been the cause of war and misery for thousands of years and all based on NOTHING. There is no hope for the human species! And that is not to excuse Islam, undoubtedly the worst of a bad bunch of surviving "beliefs". Do not show respect to any of its deluded followers.
@lapamful
@lapamful 2 жыл бұрын
Stop being PC my friend. Comparing 'extremists' within different religions is like comparing all 4 legged animals as the same.
@josm1481
@josm1481 2 жыл бұрын
As noted above, the fact you think Islam is similar to Buddhism, Christianity etc in its base briefs and objectives is where you're wrong. Christianity and Buddhism hold up pacifist ascetics as the people to look up to and emulate. Islam looks up to a slave trading r*pist. The official Islamic sources say Muhammad had about 40 slaves, 12 of them sex slaves. Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, in fact nearly all the 'great religions' value personal improvement as a way of worship. Islam literally means submission to the word of Allah. There is no concept of morality, personal improvement just do what the books tell you. Going back to the original point. Do you think people who look up to pacifist have a different view on human interactions and society than those who look up to and glorify a warlord?
@josm1481
@josm1481 2 жыл бұрын
Further, Islam has always been an imperialist project. The expansion of the Islamic caliphate and the ummah. So, whilst you focus on 'morality' and 'what's fair' they're using all means possible to get what they want. Watch the Islamic apologists unashamedly come on TV and avoid condemning attrocities such as 9/11 and most recently Rushdie being stabbed. They know it's terrorism. They know it cowers their enemies. And they're shameless and will deflect endlessly, knowing if they were honest and said 'yes, I think it was great the attack happened' the majority will be disgusted. So, the lie and deceive to allow Islam to grow in the West.
@mistymoor7114
@mistymoor7114 2 жыл бұрын
The particular problem with Islam is that promotion of violence is written into the "religion" it is a violent and barbaric system much more than any other religion.
@ravenhill_of_midsummer_1968
@ravenhill_of_midsummer_1968 2 жыл бұрын
hello, i wondered what happen to Ann widdecombe being featured on your channel? we really enjoyed Ann's contribution, thanks.
@kitbag9033
@kitbag9033 2 жыл бұрын
"Do people care enough?". Sadly, no. There is the inevitable self flagellation by weak willed, unintelligent sophists, with no real experience of the reverse discrimination that will not only come to them but drive them into the gutter. Jolyon may be a QC, but we all know his ultimate aim is to overthrow democratic proces.
@cooperwesley1536
@cooperwesley1536 2 жыл бұрын
Since the Iranian Revolution in the late 1970s, I've seen nothing particularly peaceful about the religion.
@ChayaFellerman
@ChayaFellerman 2 жыл бұрын
Really important topic 🙏🏻
@SpadgerMcTeagle1
@SpadgerMcTeagle1 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the politicians run away from it - they run away from all important topics
@robinwatkins8528
@robinwatkins8528 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's because I'm American, but hell yeah to Whittle's point about respecting a religion that doesn't respect us. Each time she said "prophet" mohammed, I cringed.
@chrisa5959
@chrisa5959 2 жыл бұрын
As we continue to import so many from the Islamic third world these conversations are taking place very much as the night gathers in.... If you think I'm being unduly pessimistic... ask yourself could such a debate take place on the BBC, Sky or terrestrial TV ?
@valeriegrimshaw1365
@valeriegrimshaw1365 2 жыл бұрын
No. We are being INVADED aided and abetted by useless politicos.
@saffronsolo9668
@saffronsolo9668 2 жыл бұрын
I think we feel powerless. The politicians should be dealing with this. The people in charge are letting this happen. There needs to be a stop put to this by the people we have elected to guide our country.
@igottheshaft
@igottheshaft 2 жыл бұрын
So sad that Philip's heart rate increases when he wants to say the truth. A pathetic indictment of an unfree society.
@janeoneil3258
@janeoneil3258 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. He's a brave and clever man.
@design7054
@design7054 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Unchallenged Progressivism is inevitable self-destruction.
@phildiamond8549
@phildiamond8549 2 жыл бұрын
Where Islam goes, misery follows.
@redset11
@redset11 2 жыл бұрын
@John the Account - agree. I learnt about Islam 30 years ago from former Indian muslims who had converted to Christianity. It's a dangerous oppressive ideology and we knew that it's prime targets were England and Israel first, then the rest of the world. Spreading rapidly now throughout Europe. In England, due to the ignorance of its indigenous people being Bible illiterate, rejecting their Christian heritage, a weak government allowing so many muslims to settle here and the large families they have (Mohammed the most popular name for babies in London) added to that the general apathy of the average Brit, now find ourselves in a perilous situation. If Islam finally rules Britain then we can honestly say it was our fault for letting our famous 'tolerance' result in neglecting our own values.
@maxineblick2002
@maxineblick2002 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe the once GREAT Britain , kowtows to Islam! . In your OWN country.! Regards from NZ.
@benjamin4894
@benjamin4894 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember when Ms Ardern was ostentatiously parading herself around in a hijab!
@maxineblick2002
@maxineblick2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjamin4894 I do too , …virtue signalling .
@benjamin4894
@benjamin4894 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxineblick2002 You can tell the Muslims are always thinking: 'If you love our religion so much, why don't you just convert already??' 🤔
@maxineblick2002
@maxineblick2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjamin4894 who, me? I’m non religious.
@benjamin4894
@benjamin4894 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxineblick2002 No, not you, darlin'. I meant these apologists for Islam.
@KYPopskull
@KYPopskull 2 жыл бұрын
Seems to me, Britons are having a discussion about preventing burglary, after the burglar has entered the house. Now, you have to fight to get them out.
@hobartmg
@hobartmg 2 жыл бұрын
People won't care about it until it affects them, in the near future it will. We have town's and cities in this country have no go areas this should never be allowed to happen in Our Country.
@davidleversha4898
@davidleversha4898 2 жыл бұрын
Like listening in to the real world. Thank goodness for people like this.
@davidallen7540
@davidallen7540 2 жыл бұрын
Free speech has gone and needs tp be restored in full. Hate speech is wrong. Government telling people what they can and can't say is not on.
@jimm7181
@jimm7181 2 жыл бұрын
This 3% of the country, and yet we are ambivalent about it. I'm frightened for future generations who taking for much time to awaken.
@barbaratg5230
@barbaratg5230 2 жыл бұрын
How can you feel tolerance towards the intolerant?
@johnjaw19
@johnjaw19 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work on freedom of speech.
@LEEEEMO
@LEEEEMO 2 жыл бұрын
@6:00 I want to chime in with the observation of Philip Kiszely. For the last two years, I've been on various social media platforms interacting on Islamic sites. I have seen literally no one say that Rushdie should not have been attacked. No one. The vast majority of the comments have come from women. They have applauded the attacker and clearly stated that they were sorry that the attack didn't result in Rushdie's death. Now the Islamic talking heads, so to speak, have had a different take. All of them that I've seen have said that the attack wasn't Islamic, it shouldn't have been carried out. I've been studying Islam and ME history since 1993. That study has been at 50,000 feet. Being down at street level gives one a very different view of Islam.
@rumdo5617
@rumdo5617 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve become oppressed and silenced by the mob. It’s very unhealthy not to be able to express your truth. All is energy and something will give sooner or later. These are dangerously precarious times - God help us all🙏
@abigailslade3824
@abigailslade3824 2 жыл бұрын
No point running to religion for safety, religion is the problem.
@rumdo5617
@rumdo5617 2 жыл бұрын
@@abigailslade3824 God is not religion. Religion is man made.
@abigailslade3824
@abigailslade3824 2 жыл бұрын
@@rumdo5617 you believe in him that means you have a personal belief or religion.
@rumdo5617
@rumdo5617 2 жыл бұрын
@@abigailslade3824 I don’t have a religion
@kipsome45
@kipsome45 2 жыл бұрын
@@abigailslade3824 Probably just using a very embedded phrase…I’m a devout atheist and frequently invoke God and the Baby Jesus in vain. Just words in my case.
@hornchurchtower7108
@hornchurchtower7108 2 жыл бұрын
Ban Hala meat it is cruel. Where are all the animal rights people? Why are they not shouting about hala meat being terrible.
@jenniferbate9682
@jenniferbate9682 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve written countless email about this. Nothing gets done!
@hornchurchtower7108
@hornchurchtower7108 2 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferbate9682 Why are we having to put up with this? All school children in my area now has to have Hala meals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have no words.
@jenniferbate9682
@jenniferbate9682 2 жыл бұрын
@@hornchurchtower7108 they’re not told it’s halal, and ALL New Zealand lamb is halal only Waitrose own meat in NOT!! Check it out!! It’s not made public!!
@hornchurchtower7108
@hornchurchtower7108 2 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferbate9682 Thank you Jennifer. I have a great local butcher and I only buy meat from them. Why are the protesters pouring milk on the floor in Haarrods and NOT a word about Hala?
@rogeralsop3479
@rogeralsop3479 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion.
@landoremick7422
@landoremick7422 2 жыл бұрын
Izlum had better be careful. Once the Saxon is angered.
@MichaelPetek
@MichaelPetek 2 жыл бұрын
The Saxons in their day had their heads screwed on. They knew that religious error, including Islam, is of an immoral and criminal nature. They would have required Muslims at sword-point to leave the realm of England with their possessions and their sins.
@Anygodwilldo
@Anygodwilldo 2 жыл бұрын
I chatted online with "moderate" ordinary Muslaims about this. A lot said if you "insult Islam" (whatver that means) you should accept the consequences and you should be scared- in other words taking the side of Salman Rushdie's assailants. These people are not Islamic State in Baghdad or whatever, these are just everyday people, Muslims we see in the UK. it's a real problem.
@benjamin4894
@benjamin4894 2 жыл бұрын
Was their 'Prophet' himself not a 'radical' 'Islamist' 'extremist'..?
@Anygodwilldo
@Anygodwilldo 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjamin4894 yes, and that's a dilemma Muslims need to figure out Either he was the perfect example of a man (in which case murder and slavery are ethically right) or he was flawed and immoral (in which case, saying so is blasphemous for muslims)
@stephenparker5241
@stephenparker5241 2 жыл бұрын
Diversity isn't our strength Multiculturalism is a disaster. Trying to have a country run with 2 opposing value structures is the road to war in my opinion. You can't have a western Christian value structure running alongside an Eastern Islamic value structure they are contradictory on far too many important points. It's a discussion that needs to be had now not in 20 years time when the country tears itself apart.
@rigilchrist
@rigilchrist 2 жыл бұрын
I think the time to act has already passed. It really boils down to enforcement of the rule of law - and here, the Police are to blame. I recall a TV debate over the cartoons, which were not published in any newspaper in the UK, for fear of violent reprisal. Douglas Murray at the time (on TV) declared this an outrage and asked of the Police "why aren't they contacting the newspapers to say we will protect you?". Then later, when Charlie Hebdo published their first issue after the massacre, no-one in the UK would risk showing the magazine cover in newspapers, on newsagents shelves or on TV. I had to buy the issue from France. Douglas Murray on live TV produced an issue and held it up - the camera whipped away for fear of showing it. Why is everyone so spineless? It is because of the fear of violent reprisal. Would we tolerate this from a bunch of gangsters? Unless we ALL stand up to threats of violence, be it from Islamists or Putin, they will have their way.
@valeriegrimshaw1365
@valeriegrimshaw1365 2 жыл бұрын
It's tantamount to bowing down to the Spanish Inquisition.
@johnmacleod9551
@johnmacleod9551 2 жыл бұрын
I am old enough to have listened to the bbc broadcasting speeches from speaker’s corner in London people speaking out at what they believe in This freedom of speech can not be taken away from us it is right to express ourselves as free people. 71 years old wishing I was younger😏
@HappyBear376
@HappyBear376 2 жыл бұрын
Tony blair allowed sharia.
@warmasterhorus
@warmasterhorus 2 жыл бұрын
The Tories are allowing sharia.
@thehound9638
@thehound9638 2 жыл бұрын
@@warmasterhorus Exactly! The Tories also introduced gay marriage and allowed one million immigrants into the country in the space of one year! Not to mention the illegal immigrants they've put into four star hotels! Worse than that though, Labour are to the left of the Tories!
@frannybgood
@frannybgood 2 жыл бұрын
@@warmasterhorus why leave the Lib Dems out of this?🤣
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 2 жыл бұрын
All Liberal Capitalist Democracies in the West are heading in the same direction.
@frogscotch19
@frogscotch19 2 жыл бұрын
Well said Horus
@daniellebcooper7160
@daniellebcooper7160 2 жыл бұрын
Children need to be taught, that there is a difference between Race and Culture. ...'Don't judge a person by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character'...
@Electriclentilman
@Electriclentilman 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot separate the two. The west has told itself it can be done for many years and conducted an experiment upon the indigenous peoples. It’s has failed .. wake up , or you can kiss our culture goodbye.
@daniellebcooper7160
@daniellebcooper7160 2 жыл бұрын
@@Electriclentilman Thats like saying the French have the same culture as the Germans.
@Electriclentilman
@Electriclentilman 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniellebcooper7160 Correct.. white Northern Europeans , that have a shared culture.
@daniellebcooper7160
@daniellebcooper7160 2 жыл бұрын
@@Electriclentilman The french and germans dont share the same culture, its similar in ways, but it aint the same.
@Electriclentilman
@Electriclentilman 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniellebcooper7160 White Northern Europeans share a generalized culture, we have interbreed and shared cultural ideas for millennia. We exist, We created the Renaissance , the enlightenment and the industrial revolution among other things . Things we should hold dear, but are constantly being told to reject for whatever reason they can throw at us . If you are a white Northern European you must stand up for these values , or they will be lost, That is the point , That is our culture.
@jameswhite7997
@jameswhite7997 2 жыл бұрын
I think Peters point of why she says the prophet mohammed but wouldn't say Jesus the son of God is extremely relevant. Everyone knows who she is referring to so why say it? It seems even this is a cultural bowing to not offend Islam. I could be wrong.
@rosyrussell5209
@rosyrussell5209 2 жыл бұрын
Give Britain back to the Brits. Too much multiculturalism. Never wanted it.
@jumblestiltskin1365
@jumblestiltskin1365 2 жыл бұрын
I like that Peter stopped Emma on the point of "the prophet mohammed". This overtly decent and respectful use of their religious sensibilities is one thing, but like everything with political Islam it becomes weaponised. Stop this.
@AB-kc3yc
@AB-kc3yc 2 жыл бұрын
Is lamb is entirely political: The simple answer to this problem is everyone worldwide needs to know exactly what is written in their book. All the muss lim hierarchy are terrified of this being known because it is that dain ger ous, that is why they are pushing for silence! They continually push the r. of peace rhetoric, which are lyes [perfectly acceptable to do, as stated in their book].This problem affects the entire W. World Please watch Robert Spencer, Al fadi Yasmine mohammed, David Wood videos on yt.
@boriss.861
@boriss.861 2 жыл бұрын
The Standard Islamic Narrative, has holes in it which is why the majority of followers have NO IDEA on the texts. They repeat what they are told. Never quoting chapter and verse and always twist the argument to Christianity! I better stop otherwise I'll be here all day getting more annoyed. PS I had fist hand knowledge of Islam 43 years ago with the Iran mess.
@rosem5041
@rosem5041 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you sure did have fist hand knowledge!🤦‍♀️
@leigh-mariehamilton3361
@leigh-mariehamilton3361 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosem5041 I hope you don't have a daughter or a homosexual son.
@antoniaskelhorn6985
@antoniaskelhorn6985 2 жыл бұрын
On the point about naming Mohamad then use ' the prophet of islam' . As we wouldnt expect non christians to say " Our Lord jesus Christ "
@cooperwesley1536
@cooperwesley1536 2 жыл бұрын
That's a really nice tie and handkerchief combo on Philip! Very dapper.
@bingolittle8725
@bingolittle8725 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting when Peter picked Emma up on using the phrase 'Prophet' Mohammed, so much of that goes on these days, giving undue respect to demanding minority groups. Peter Hitchens has mentioned that we started using the name Beijing instead of Peking at the bequest of the CCP.
@williamvorkosigan5151
@williamvorkosigan5151 2 жыл бұрын
On current trends, when will England become a majority Muslim country? Are we allowed to know? Are we still allowed to ask?
@alistairnewton8898
@alistairnewton8898 2 жыл бұрын
Do people care enough NO , until the problem arrives next door to them , just same as the grooming scandal it wasn't happening to their children , I despair when I listen to our collective political establishment.🧐
@garymarshall1246
@garymarshall1246 2 жыл бұрын
Keep Looking Pretty Emna, it encourages more of the young people, to get envolved
@KevinArdala01
@KevinArdala01 2 жыл бұрын
I think Peter was correct to question Emma. It doesn't make sense for non-Muslims to use the term and it's all you ever hear listening to TV presenters'.
@rosyrussell5209
@rosyrussell5209 2 жыл бұрын
Free us from the Islamists. Send them far from our shores. And do not let one more in.
@FF-so3su
@FF-so3su 2 жыл бұрын
As always you are bang on the money. 😊👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@2Hesiod
@2Hesiod 2 жыл бұрын
Spread the word.
@angieauger9010
@angieauger9010 2 жыл бұрын
There is an ancient power in the British Isles that the British need to remember, it's like they went to sleep for a hundred years and forgot who they really are.
@paulwilson7622
@paulwilson7622 2 жыл бұрын
This a Religious, attempted assassination. Everybody, regardless of your religion should condemn the attempted murderer & the abhorrent attitudes of that Religion
@carolynb.7455
@carolynb.7455 2 жыл бұрын
Just catching up on this week's episode - another important and frank discussion from the team. Thank you!
@hammertic
@hammertic 2 жыл бұрын
"Do people care enough?" No they don't and that is the problem with UK on so many issues. Just as in 1938/9 we'll wait until the shit really hits the fan before we act .
@iainrae6159
@iainrae6159 2 жыл бұрын
As Sam Harris put it , fundamentalism is not necessarily the problem. A fundamentalist Quaker or Jain do not threaten violence.
@jackieo8235
@jackieo8235 2 жыл бұрын
Cultures do not mix.
@celiaparker6166
@celiaparker6166 2 жыл бұрын
In 1989 I was working in a small independent bookshop in a northern city with, by present-day standards, a small, mainly Pakistani, Muslim community. All the other bookshops took 'The Satanic Verses' off sale or only sold it 'under the counter' but, while taking down the window display (we weren't sure how sympathetic the insurers would be if we had windows smashed), we kept it on open display inside. We were visited by a gang who tried to destroy copies, stamped on them and tore them, threatened arson and physically assaulted me. The police officers who turned up (too late of course) were sympathetic but said they'd been told not to arrest Muslims, in case there was a riot. We were also visited by a couple of elders who threatened to demonstrate outside. We said we'd welcome the publicity and that was the end of it. Until that point I'd been the sort of anti-racist leftist who thought Muslims were simply victims of oppression- so it was a real eye-opener. Unfortunately I know many others who still think that way.
@martyn93ify
@martyn93ify 2 жыл бұрын
Islam belongs in the desert, not on our shores
@jamessheffield4173
@jamessheffield4173 2 жыл бұрын
Let's just admit free speech is history.
@rogerdubarry8505
@rogerdubarry8505 2 жыл бұрын
We don't have free speech in the UK. You know this.
@catherinefranklin9128
@catherinefranklin9128 2 жыл бұрын
Another great discussion. It's a shame we can never even mention all the Muslim child sex scandals that keep going on either
@davidsexton6604
@davidsexton6604 2 жыл бұрын
For a few years now l have been trying to get us to turn up en mass at Speakers Corner on a Sunday all with large plaques of Mohamed cartoons to no avail. I did it on my own 3times , l called it my Desencidisation program. I also did a demo at the French Embassy about the French Teacher. I have also done many demos on my own about Free Speech and protests about persecution of Tommy Robinson. I still would like to turn up with others every Sunday with the cartoons until the enemies of Free Speach get the message ! Call me !
@garymarshall1246
@garymarshall1246 2 жыл бұрын
So Look Forward to Gorgeous Emma, on Culture Forum.. We need more radical ideas to get young men and women , to support our Culture and history
@cherylanne4390
@cherylanne4390 2 жыл бұрын
The Trojan Horse is already within the city walls.
@ellismeah8110
@ellismeah8110 Жыл бұрын
A minority group of people from outside the UK shouldn't be demanding changing the laws religion over the majority ,
@abigailslade3824
@abigailslade3824 2 жыл бұрын
We have not only capitulated as a society to this form of censorship we keep inviting more of the critics and those willing to punish those they find offensive with out let.
@boriss.861
@boriss.861 2 жыл бұрын
Islam means Submission... To Allah and the greatest false prophet ever 'Mohammad' In the Reliance of the Traveller Religion comes 10th down the list of 13 Sharia (Laws). They are told not to question the doctrine and verbally or physically stop any questioning of the ideology. Sura 53 contains some of the Temptation of Muhammad Verse 19 onwards. Remember the doctrines are: Quran, Hadiths, Sunnah , Surah, Reliance of the Traveller and The Unsheathed Sword. A Book of Love and respect.
@rosem5041
@rosem5041 2 жыл бұрын
Utter nonsense. The same could be said about the Talmud
@boriss.861
@boriss.861 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosem5041 To what are you referring to Rose?
@davew1421
@davew1421 2 жыл бұрын
Rose m, people like Caryl Churchill who have slandered Judaism don't go in fear of being stabbed or blown up. Get the difference?
@jonathandnicholson
@jonathandnicholson 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Rose. The devil as early as the Garden of Eden said to follow one's own will not God's Will. Then God cast out Adam and Eve because they did not re-submit themselves to God's Will. The commandments are eternal and universal commandments not contingent rationalist debating points. The purpose of life for Christians is to love and serve the Lord. Love thy neighbour means to will the good of the other, to will the good of Christ. The recent Sandy Toksvig letter to the Archbishop of Canterbury was heretical. We did burn blasphemous and heretical books (as well as the lewd and just offensive). Read Matthew 18:6 for one of many Christian passages on heresy. Now, anything goes with Liberalism (especially expressive individualism): 'I disagree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it' or 'Is this the hill you really want to die on?' or 'Oh, that is so last Century/Millennia' or 'You would only believe that if you are a strict Roman Catholic' or 'You do not get to yuck my yum' or 'I have to live out my truth' or 'Well, as long as consent has been given'. All variation on the Pontious Pilate line of: 'What is truth?' Liberalism is essentially a liberation from God and His Will.
@Rosshannah1695
@Rosshannah1695 2 жыл бұрын
It's NOT radical Islam....simply Islam. Until his fact is acknowledged you will always skirt around the issue. Sura 48:29, Mohammad is the messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against the infidels. One of 160+ verses telling Muslims to kill non believers and despise us. Check out Ali Dawah, still allowed on KZbin, telling us that those who commit nuisance in the land( any land Muslims are in) will be subject to capitol punishment, and you know what?...we'll be watching!...his words, and he has a large following, along with Muhammed Hijab, both staunch Muslims, not radical or extremist, MUSLIM. Freely allowed to spout their religion because of our freedom of speech.
@chrisnieto5547
@chrisnieto5547 2 жыл бұрын
Love you Emma
@randlemcmurphy4983
@randlemcmurphy4983 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile we are fighting with each other in a culture war, whilst they just sit and wait for their time to come
@AdrianAK6
@AdrianAK6 2 жыл бұрын
Islamists " We come in peace, set swords to kill ".
@2Hesiod
@2Hesiod 2 жыл бұрын
A keystone of the foundation of civilization is the distinction between verbal and physical violence.
@carolramsey6287
@carolramsey6287 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is not that we are racist but that we are not racist enough. We are afraid to stand up to them for fear of being called racist when there is. In fact, nothing wrong with defending your own race and culture against the heathen. In WW2 we fought Nazism. I see nothing wrong with standing up to Islam as my great grandfather did when he took part in the slaughter of many of them at Omdurman on Friday 2nd September 1898
@johnatkinson7479
@johnatkinson7479 2 жыл бұрын
The left have gaslighted the people to believe only whites can be racist..ov course we know this isn’t true and in the coming years it will become evident
@HelloJamesBond
@HelloJamesBond 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, thanks for having this conversation it does take bravery. Please please please, if you can get Sam Harris on….who else would up their donations to see that? I’ll start it off £££
@richardmanning4722
@richardmanning4722 2 жыл бұрын
Full on about the house of babble that's even amongst our indigenous people
@harryfoster6374
@harryfoster6374 2 жыл бұрын
What is in need of a hard look at is why Sharia law was allowed in the UK we have our own laws and no other laws were allowed, so why Sharia?
@lesigh1749
@lesigh1749 2 жыл бұрын
Its threat to more than just free speech. But we dont have the free speech rights required to articulate that concept in more detail. 🙄
@ivarrtheboneless9104
@ivarrtheboneless9104 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the book burning and was bemused that they most likely had to buy the book to burn it, therefore putting money in the authors bank account.
@frankd2392
@frankd2392 2 жыл бұрын
And if they had read it - which seems unlikely - are they not guilty of dishonourable the prophet ?
@rosyrussell5209
@rosyrussell5209 2 жыл бұрын
I would say that the silent majority , who possibly don't have a platform, are appalled at the weakness shown by those in authority. I am not on social media. If I were the headmaster of the school where the teacher has gone into hiding, I would say loud and clear that every parent opposing the teacher will be reported for harassment and threatening behaviour , because THERE ARE NO BLASPHEMY LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY. AND THERE IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY. It is our country , not an Islamic one. A further threat should come from the government that any Muslim who threatens a person such as the teacher or a newspaper will be stripped of his British citizenship and sent to his ancestral home. We True Brits do not display fear. I live in Africa where danger is all around me . I stand up to it. My father died in the Second World War. I will not let him down.
@tractorhead971
@tractorhead971 2 жыл бұрын
“You can be part of our society” say the conquered infidels to the conquering army.
@clarkkent4683
@clarkkent4683 2 жыл бұрын
I hope there will be content on teaching people what makes the country great
@Electriclentilman
@Electriclentilman 2 жыл бұрын
Islam ruled quite a sway of Southern Europe . It took 700 years to clear them out, and just keep their beautiful architecture. So history must repeat, or the west will die this time .
@sarahwilliams3176
@sarahwilliams3176 2 жыл бұрын
How could you educate young people about the consequences of this over deference to Islam when the whole education is in its ‘pay’ !! We are already ‘stuffed’ in this regard. It’s going to take great courage or it will lead to civil war somewhere down the line !
@marieparker3822
@marieparker3822 2 жыл бұрын
'In order for so-called multiculturalism to work in a Society, you must accept that there will be one law for one group of people and another law for another group of people. If you, as a member of the majority population find some of the accepted practices of a minority oopulation abhorrent - they may also be criminal offences according to the law of the land, but see above - tough'.
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