Hasselblad 500cm - are Hasselblads really all that special??

Are Hasselblads really that special? Yeah... probably. And if they were so freakin expensive then I would probably want one.
But only probably.
I've spent some time thinking about what it is that puts me off Hasselblads. And it's not the same thing that put me off the Mamiya C330. Hasselblads have character, the images they take are beautiful and rich. So it's not that I don't like the results.
And it's also not the price tag. Don't get me wrong, the price tag is a barrier! It's the price tag that physically stops me from owning one. But there's something more about Hasselblads that stops me from saving up to buy one.
For me, it's the same problem as Leicas. Yes I think they're over priced. Yes I think that people get too excited about them, both Hassies and Leicas.
But it's something about the underdog... and this is actually how I feel about supporting sports teams as well. And this whole thing is probably a psychologist's playground, this will give you some sort of insight into my character here. God knows what insight. Maybe some psychologists out there can tell me??
Basically, I'm not drawn to the top-of-the-league team. I'm drawn to the lower-mid table team. Subconsciously I probably think it's more rewarding to back the losers, then when the win you can say you were with them all along, even when they were bottom of the table.
And it's the same mentality that draws me to cameras. I love my Bronica S2A, because it's the underdog. Hasselblads are top of the table, they've got all the silverware. No one likes the Bronicas, which puts you as supporter in a smaller group, and more close knit group.
Being able to take great photos with a Bronica if, I think, more rewarding than being able to take great photos with a Hasselblad.
Anyway, there's my soul on a plate for you all.
Hope you enjoy the Hasselblad 500cm video, drop me some comments below!

[@adamstreetboyzz]

Mines was handed down to me by Aunt. My uncle past away so she handed it down to me. So beyond bless

[@the120ist]

What a beautiful thing to have, your uncle's camera! Great reason to put it to great use and enjoy it!

[@ironwoodjones8599]

Great video again Nick. I am always learning when watching your videos today it is light or the lack of it and how you can still get a great picture and oh those very cute puppies 😀

[@the120ist]

Cheers Andy! Oh those very cute puppies… I’m not much of a Jack Russell person, but they were literally adorable!! 😍

[@ReimannPembroke]

This was a fun video! Loved the photos with the doggies! I feel the same way you do that hasselblads and Leica have enough fans. That’s why I shooting with the S2A and the Canon P on my channel! The two less popular alternatives!

[@the120ist]

Hey, thanks man! I felt that on a channel all about medium format I should probably shoot a Hasselblad... but I've got that out of my system now, back to better cameras!

[@ReimannPembroke]

@@the120ist we love it all! Especially the under-appreciated quirky cameras

[@the120ist]

@@ReimannPembroke I've got a video I'll be posting soon on a Canon Epoca (called a Canon Photura in the US I think). 35mm, and not all that old, but I've been totally blown away by it! You can pick them up for pennies, everyone hates them. So I'll be keeping that one!

[@ReimannPembroke]

@@the120ist sweet! I’m going to look that up right now!

[@gregwardecke]

Your summation was spot on. They are great! wonderful! magnificent! cameras. Give me one and I would be thrilled! But give me two grand to spend on cameras and I wouldn’t come home with a 500CM or an M6. I am in film photography for the love of it, not to make money or impress clients.

[@the120ist]

Exactly! Great cameras though they clearly are, for two grand I could get ten fascinating, probably slightly imperfect, cameras that would keep me buzzing for a year! That said… if anyone wants to give me a Hasselblad, I wouldn’t refuse it. That would just be rude, right?

[@gregwardecke]

@@the120ist obviously your channel but is that a show or two? Instead of an M6 I bought a … then put together a list of magnificent 35mm cameras you could buy for the same money. Sticking with rangefinders a Rollei 35, Nikon S and some lenses, Nikon 35ti, Canon Canonet 17 and an older vintage camera like a Voigtländer. Do the same for the 500CM. Our S2As with a full compliment of lenses, and backs, a Mamiya C330 and a Mamiya 645 all for less than one camera. And how much more versatility would you have for the same money?!

[@the120ist]

@@gregwardecke that’s a great idea! I’m going to start planning that one….

[@freeman10000]

Give me two grand for a camera I would go for a Blad every time.

[@IainHC1]

There is a button on the top of the film holder.... You slide it to the right when you fix and remove the film back to and from the body.... If you just snap it on, as you just have, then this wear's out the latching mechanism and causes damage, increasing a shorter lifespan to both camera and film holder........... Always slide that button to the right when you load a film back to the body!! Same rule applies to your Boronica!!

[@the120ist]

Yeah I've had a lot of criticism for snapping that film back on! If I had the camera for longer maybe I would have learned not to do that. I actually don't tend to hold back on snapping the film back onto my Bronicas, but the snap is definitely less jarring on those. I wonder if there is shorter travel on the clips for the Bronicas. I've definitely shown snapping the backs onto the Bronicas and no one has mentioned anything! But I guess it is better practice not to snap them on, as you say, saves wearing out those clips.

[@antonroland]

Love your channel! Your Leica comment made me smash the subscribe button in half a heartbeat…😂👍🏻

[@the120ist]

Ha ha! Thanks! How to make myself unpopular with half the film shooters out there!

[@paultaylorphotography9499]

Awesome vid mate the shot of Tom at 5:33 is a belter. The blad along with a Leica are my retirement plan I have to try them before I’m toast just because why not. So many stunning cameras in the world so little time to try them. Looking forward to more vids with the Bron mate cheers for sharing your work. Love FP4

[@the120ist]

Cheers Paul! Hard to get a crap shot of those dogs, they're Jack Russell pups and they are so frikkin cute! Got the Hasselblads out of my system for a while now, no desire to own one. Not for now anyway. But like you say, so many beautiful cameras, so little time!

[@paultaylorphotography9499]

@@the120ist good fun trying other cameras there should be a loan dept for us 📷

[@the120ist]

@@paultaylorphotography9499 it did occur to me once that there would probably be a market for that kind of thing - loaning out interesting cameras. But then it also occurred to me that these things break down, or have niggling little problems, so often that you’d either spend your time refunding people or having to buy replacements. We’ll have to content ourselves with saving our pocket money and buying and selling for now! 🤣

[@paultaylorphotography9499]

@@the120ist fair points I just picked up an F4 cheap as chips dunno. If the bugger works yet ran outta film now awaiting a delivery. I’ll get that Vito sent mate

[@paultaylorphotography9499]

Flick me your address cheers 📷📷📷📷

[@khanscombe619]

I agree I tried to convince myself I don’t need 1 if they cost a bomb & over hyped. They may get more influencer hype but to be fair, as u said , it’s true. I handled it once & I loved it. I’ll save up for it.

[@the120ist]

I'm still standing my ground! Don't have one, won't be buying one any time soon! They absolutely are fantastic cameras. But there are other great cameras out there!

[@khanscombe619]

I didn’t even get into the glass side of things but same like Leica, it’s not just that they’re good but it’s about what feels good to use. You carry / hold / handle them for a few days & you know why. They have their place. Even if just for the “I love photography” enthusiasts on a car journey for fun.

[@AndreoPhoto]

great video! just wanted to drop by and say that as someone new to 120 and who has a bronica as well, your channel is a great resource for stuff and topics that i'm interested in. The hassy is also on my radar but will be a far dream at best since there are other more important things to throw money at as of the moment. keep up the great work. would love to shoot with you one of these days

[@the120ist]

Thank you for your kind words! I'm really glad your finding the vids useful in some way! And if you find yourself in the Bristol area of the UK, let me know, we'll go shoot!

[@AndreoPhoto]

@@the120ist that would be an honor :) likewise if you're ever in the Philippines. Maybe we could even do a video together ✌️

[@the120ist]

@@AndreoPhoto That would be awesome! I'm sure I'll be out there at some point!

[@swarupkm]

Hello came across your channel fairly recently. Loved the ‘Leicas and hassleblads have enough fans’ bit. Since you talked about hidden gems, unloved beauties, thought of pointing Perkeo, Baldix, Mamiya 6. Would love to see you trying them if you can. All the very best.

[@the120ist]

Thanks so much! Glad you're enjoying the vids. Mamiya 6 has been on my radar for a while. I've been keeping an eye out for a good deal on one. I'll find one, some day! Perkeo I am also aware of, they seem to have a good reputation. I'll make sure I start watching the auctions for those too, thanks for the tip. And I have a feeling I have a Balda Baldix already... hmmm... you're getting me thinking now. I have boxes of cameras at various stages of repair. I'll check if I do have one tomorrow!

[@clarhettcoalfield3616]

Nick as always thanks for sharing your insights, and I'm in the same camp as you when it comes to finding those hidden gems in the analogue annals of time gone by. On a personal note I find the Hasselblads are hyped too often for all the wrong reasons, they, along with Leica's have earned a spot on the historical spectrum of great mechanical cameras, but the pricing and hype for both of these legendary brands has more to do with exclusivity than with the actual mechanics of the cameras. There is no faulting the design, but the ownership of said cameras does not make their operators superior photographers, it just makes them people with deeper pockets in most cases. BTW I picked up 3 - 35mm Minolta's last week, XD-s, XD7, and an XD5 that's as close to a Leica I'll ever get. Cheers.

[@the120ist]

I watch the auctions around here for interesting cameras and bargains, and I see page after page of Leicas going for really crazy money. I just don't see the appeal. Literally, if someone offered me a choice between a Leica and a Russian copy, I think I'd probably go for the Russian one! And actually, I've been watching out for a Kiev 88 for a while, I'd love to try one of those. I have a real shortage of Minoltas in my collection. I'm not sure I've ever owned one! Now there's something that needs fixing.

[@clarhettcoalfield3616]

@@the120ist it's the only reason I got the 3 Minolta XD'S, it was I believe Leica's second foray into building an SLR, it was a joint venture between Minolta and Leica, the cameras sold by Leica were based on Minolta XD chassis, R3, R4, R5. The Minolta XD-s (little ess) was the last or latest Minolta of the bunch, made exclusively for the Japanese Market, and includes a built in diopter on a 35mm SLR camera - unheard of in the day, hence the little ess, which stood for 'Shiryoku' roughly it translates into eyesight, and not to be confused with the XD-S (large or capital ess, the scientific and medical version of the camera)

[@the120ist]

@@clarhettcoalfield3616 amazing! Fascinating stuff. I didn’t know any of that! Thank you! So much history. I just love it! 👍

[@andyvan5692]

one loading error, I picked up, you need to roll the film UNDER the silver lock tab, to keep the film flat!!, this also pulls the film in, stopping any 'catches' when inserting the insert into the shell.

[@dylanhill1640]

A worthwhile purchase that has served me well over the years.

[@the120ist]

I think you're probably right. If I was ready to settle on just one camera, I would definitely consider a Hasselblad. But I like having a few, and trying new things when I can, and so owning my own Hasselblad is a little way down the list for now.

[@dylanhill1640]

@@the120ist I have a huge collection of cameras that seem like a mistress. These days I just grab and go what's on my shelf. One of my favorite cameras is an Olympus Stylus Zoom . Enjoy the moment.

[@terrywbreedlove]

I switched to Hasselblad 503 Cxi from RB67 i had for decades. Now I shoot the 503 CW and love the hell out of Hasselblad. Just pay the money and enjoy the cameras.They are a lifetime type of camera.

[@the120ist]

I think you're right. And maybe that's why I'm resistant to owning one right now. I think I know in the back of my mind that once I own one I won't want to use anything else. So I'll continue treading the murky waters of the lesser cameras for a bit longer, until I'm bored of it, then go get myself a Hasseblad and stick with that!

[@MarkDuffyPhotography]

I'm absolutely addicted to your channel. Started my research of film medium format cameras this weekend and have been binging your videos. So much information, thanks so much. I had been considering the Bronco S2A as I've found a good few on eBay for around €300 but I don't know if that's advisable to buy from? I'm based in Ireland and just window shopping currently but would love as best quality for around up to €700 as this will only be the hobby site of my photography.

[@the120ist]

Hey Mark! Thanks for your kind words, glad you're enjoying the vids! ebay is as you'd expect, hit and miss. Ping me an email (in my profile) and I'll see if I can advise. Obviously I want you to get yourself an S2A, it will change your life! Happy to help try to find a good one for you!

[@MarkDuffyPhotography]

@the120ist tried sending you a video on Instagram DMs, not sure if it sent, it's saying something about message invites or who knows with their annoying updates lately. Yeah I'd really appreciate any and all help, S2A has my attention if I'm totally honest

[@pabloferrer1839]

Nice. A year later I'm 76 years old and I bought an almost new Hassie for $900.00. Nice video, better pictures. Gracias.

[@diveaddict6885]

Best camera in the world, company had the best accessories. I've taken my 500cm scuba diving with the underwater housing

[@the120ist]

That must have been interesting, taking it underwater! Don't all your images come out super blue? Is there a film stock that compensates a bit for that?

[@diveaddict6885]

@@the120ist The shots were beautiful I shoot flash underwater

[@the120ist]

@@diveaddict6885 ah yeah the flash would have balanced out the colours. What a setup, hasselblad in UW housing and flash!! Nice!

[@andyvan5692]

one tip, the loading of these hasselblads is different to bronicas, the bronica 'feels' the film state (loaded or not) first, then cocks the shutter; with a Hasselblad you do a 'two step' loading, the small crank for alignment of the start arrow, and counter 'arming' (frame 1 advance), then the main crank takes charge for the 'shooting' phase, then you 'wind_off' using the small crank again.

[@andyvan5692]

YES,they are worth it, I Just 3/4 shot my First roll in a 500 c\m today, and to use this, On a tripod, (I had the CFe/CFi 80 and 180 mm lenses),with a cable release shooting archatechture is fantastic, I get the LF 'effect' people experience, to stand there, thinking, focussing, and waiting, release in hand; looking down the waist level finder, then to hear the 'click', like the visa add.........priceless!! being on the Autism spectrum, and to do things slow, and considered, and in MY control, wow. (ps: I did use a nikon Z6 and 24-70s zoom lens as a 'light meter', to use the nikons' matrix metering system)- "to be shure, to be shure".

[@anta40]

The Blad: - 6x6? Check. I'm happy with this format. Some may prefer 6x7, 6x8... 6x17, or probably large format - Interchangebale lens support? Check - Multiple film backs support (and that includes digital backs)? Check - Modular: can change grip, viewfinders etc? Check - Great optics? Check - Reasonably compact? Check See those all check marks? I believe the Blad is the most extensive medium format system which is still reasonably compact. Well if you only want to shoot 6x6 film, the Bronica is fine (and obviously cheaper). Or any TLR/folding camera if you are happy with only 1 lens. Given sufficient cash, I'll pick Hasselblad V over Leica M. Why? Film rangefinders are limited for my taste: not suitable for macro or long telephoto work, no zoom lens, no TS lens, etc. Those are not issues for the Blad.

[@the120ist]

No doubt whatsoever that it's a great system. It wouldn't be the household name that it is if it Hasselblad weren't great camera makers, and if the V series wasn't the best that money can buy. Not for me though! I think perhaps I'm looking for flawed camera systems... and that maybe there's something psychological in that... Hmmmmm

[@anta40]

@@the120ist I get that. Perhaps I'll try Kiev 88 a.k.a the Hasselbladski. If you want good, reliable camera system but those European offerings are out of budget, the common wisdom is to try something Japanese. On the other side, perhaps those Soviet gears need more appreciation :D

[@ianwilkinson4602]

Hi Nick, at some stage you have to be happy with what you have, I don't see the point in lusting after a "better" camera all the time, especially something that is heavy and bulky as some. When you use these cameras it has to be for a planned or special reason otherwise there is no point in having it with you, as any decent camera in your hands will take great pictures of the kind you took on the day. All the cameras I own are pretty mundane in comparison, some are bloody awful to load, the ergonomics on some are diabolical, but I love them and use them, sometimes with startlingly good results [ for me that is ;-) ]. I actually have four cameras with Leica lenses. Cheers, and happy New Year.

[@the120ist]

Totally agree! My litmus test for any camera I own is to think through in what situation I would pick up this camera over any other. And my reasoning for choosing cameras for a given situation could be anything, from lightweight to character, whatever. But if I have a camera already, that I trust and like, that covers specific situations (eg studio portraits, environmental portraits, documentary, holiday snaps etc), then I know I don’t need another that does the same thing. So whilst that Hasselblad was really a nice camera, and takes great images… I already have cameras that do what it does. So I don’t need one. And that is a great relief for my bank balance!

[@lensman5762]

Being the owner of two Hasselblads 500 series and quite a few Carl Zeiss Hasselblad lenses for the past 38 years, the answer to your question is an emphatic yes. They are very special and very expensive but sadly, most of them have fallen into the hands of people who really don't know what to do with it, present company excluded of course. Like Leica M film cameras, Hasselblads have become the ' me too gimmick ' of those who have jumped on the band wagon of film revival , and are used to gain credibility in an otherwise dumbed down digital world. I do enjoy your adventures with your large format camera BTW. Do carry on.

[@the120ist]

I totally agree, and even with the short time I had with this Hasselblad, it's clear there really is something special about them. One day my journey with MF will come back around to Hasselblads and I'll get one and keep it, and enjoy it. For now, as with many of the cameras I try, the time isn't quite right for me and this camera! It will be one day. More large format coming, have been out with the intrepid this weekend!

[@bfs5113]

@@the120ist Hasselblad was also about precision. For instance, the matching back and inserts. Combined with Carl Zeiss lenses and a full range of accessories such as Polaroid Back & meter knob, it was above many back then. Of course, its 6x6 format might not be right for everyone and not many could afford its price. IMO, Leica and Hasselblad were the bling-bling of the past and split among rangefinder and medium format fans. Similarly, there were the Linhof and Sinar large format cameras. Personally, RF isn't my cup of tea, thus I didn't shoot with Leica RF but went with a 500 C/M some 42 years ago.

[@tedsmith_photography]

I bought my 501CM in 2012 for £1200. Same camera today is fetching circa £3K in the UK. I bought mine at the age of about 36. I'd dreamed of having one since I was a teenager in the early 1990s when they were costing as much as the modern digital Blads do today. In the 1990s, new Blads were tens of thousands then, as they are today. I never thought I'd own one, but the demise of analogue kit in the 00s enabled me to buy that. Today, even a body, without a back or a lens are fetching between £800-£1K plus. But, they are an amazing camera system as you display. I use mine a lot, and it has never (yet) let me down. Had it serviced twice for a few hundred quid.

[@the120ist]

Definitely great cameras... but those prices!! They're just wild. But with film going through a revival, and hopefully unlikely to disappear again, here's hoping the prices stay strong. I think the problem with Hasselblads now is they're getting into Leica territory, where they're being bought by investors and collectors, rather than users, which will just keep driving the prices up. The time to get one was a few years ago, as you did. They're still great, but for £3k you could get a lot of other things!

[@Dahrenhorst]

1. I once did a 3-years photography apprenticeship at a professional industry and portrait photographer. We used Hasselblads a lot, it was the camera of choice of my master. He had four or five bodies, a respectable set of lenses and lots of backs and other accessories. What I remember most of that time (nearly 40 years ago) was, that approx a quart to a third of the whole equipment continuously was away for repair. Since then, I've lost all interest in Hasselblad cameras. 2. Last year I bought an ARAX CM-MLU (the modified Kiev 88) together with two (now three) Pentacon Six TL bodies plus a few lenses (luckily, the ARAX and the Pentacons share the same lens mount). Then I found out, that two bodies of the Pentacons are lighter and don't take more space than the ARAX with two backs. The technical quality of the pictures is the same between the two brands (no wonder, since they share the same lenses), and I bet, that nobody will be able to distinguish an 11x14" print made with a Hasselblad from one made with a Pentacon Six. Instead of carrying a Hasselblad style camera with two backs around, I know have two Pentacon Six bodies on me (one with b&w and the other with color film), and am very happy with that solution.

[@Dahrenhorst]

@johnfoley4023 The colors are totally dependent on the film used and how you processed it. The camera or lens have no significant influence on that. I myself shoot mostly black and white, about 80 to 90%.

[@olivermonche5418]

Brilliant coverage! Hopefully you have got that AE1 of yours fixed?

[@the120ist]

Thanks! Do you know what, I did send the AE1 in for a service, but then discovered that the squeal I was getting is actually coming from a lens, not the camera! Because it was still happening after the service, so I did a little investigating. I'm guessing it must be the iris making the noise as it stops down. I'll take the lens apart one day!

[@ianwilkinson4602]

I have heard that a lump hammer does wonders for a faulty camera, either that, or lob it out of the window, proven cures :-))

[@the120ist]

@@ianwilkinson4602 disappointingly accurate!! Or in fact, the very best repair tool I’ve come across, that works on the most cameras the most times… is just using it. How many old cameras with sticky shutters, or stiff focusing rings, or whatever, fixed by just using it! Gummy shutter brought back to life by firing it 50 times. Why do we bother with all these complicated repairs???

[@sebvz89]

i have my beloved bronica s2a and pentax 6x7. I'm very interested in the kowa 6x6 or some TLR. Regars from Chile Nick!

[@the120ist]

Hey! Yes, our beloved S2As! I've had mine out recently (video coming soon) and I've really been enjoying shooting with it more again. I just keep coming back to it! I'd love to try a Pentax 67, that's definitely one on my list to look out for. One day!

[@AustenGoldsmithPhotography]

I got into MF this year , bought a Pentax 67 . Then I bought a hasselblad 500 cm , I've used the 67 once since hassy arrived , 67 going on eBay very soon It works fine but I'm sure it will break down .

[@the120ist]

@@AustenGoldsmithPhotography hey, ping me an email when you’re ready to sell the P67, I would definitely be interested! Not surprised you’ve fallen in love with the hasselblad though, they are great cameras. And unlike my experience with the C330, I really felt the 500cm had some character to it. I get it, I really do!

[@JonnyEnglish-gu1cs]

Yep still want one until then I continue with my Bronnyblad SQA lol there is something special about the Hasselblad thanks for sharing

[@the120ist]

one day.... but then again, the SQA is hardly a terrible camera to have to put up with while you wait!

[@JonnyEnglish-gu1cs]

@@the120ist absolutely correct it’s a gem to use I do enjoy my Bronnyblad and I am not complaining about it it’s a peach of a camera 👍🏻

[@josephasghar]

2k is a decent canon lens tbf. Give me a classic camera for 2k any day over that. I shoot a Mamiya 645 and that’s quite enough for me.

[@the120ist]

That’s right…. I used to spend quite a bit of money on my digital cameras, but I’ve reined that in and now spend all my money on classic cameras… and film… and chemicals. And more classic cameras. I basically just don’t ever want to have any money, I think that’s what’s going on here.

[@freeman10000]

Are Hasselblads that special? Perhaps! But thirty years since using one professionally I am definately going to buy one in 2022 and enjoy producing kick-arse images with it.

[@the120ist]

True! If I was a fraction more talented then perhaps a Hasselblad would be a good companion for me! One day maybe!

[@CalumetVideo]

I am using a Hasselblad 500 CM with the 80mm C T* lens. I also have a couple of Bronica SQ’s when the Hasselblad goes to the shop. The Bronica SQ seems to just keep working and working.

[@the120ist]

That generation of broncos (SQs, ETRS etc.) are solid as a rock. The earlier generation (S2, S2A, ETR) are more prone to troubles, but the SQ generation seem to really stable. Doesn't have the appeal or cache of the Hasselblads, but if you want a camera that works.... !!

[@jean-claudemuller3199]

You cannot compare an old 500CM to a 20 years younger SQ, but should compare to a 503CW or 501CM of the same age.

[@fotoknorr]

could you share us what is the polaroid company you mentioned at the and of the video please? lovely chanel btw. Keep it going !

[@the120ist]

Thank you! I actually bought Polaroid 600 film from Polaroid.com, but I believe it's a company in Germany who now have the license to produce the film.

[@jean-claudemuller3199]

What makes the Hasselblad C so valuable is the simplicity of the modularity (like a Nikon F) that makes it possible to make it directly fully compatible without any trouble with the most modern 50 Mpix digital back CFV II 50C

[@the120ist]

No doubt the Hasselblad system has its positives. But tot up how much you're going to be shelling out for that 50MP combo! It's a whole lotta cash!

[@Casualfulltime]

I recently picked up a rollei TLR and as much as I know it’s a precious and iconic model - against my yashicas it just lacked soul. The lens was sharper and less blur to edges wide open- but the usability was way off. Focus was more difficult too. I sold it as every shoot I grabbed the Yashy D or 635. As much as this camera is beautiful too- is it to perfect? Do you know what I mean? A friend of mine had one and his images look as good as modern digi cameras. What’s the point of shooting film if it’s so perfect? Great mini review 😜

[@the120ist]

Totally agree! I still have my 635 and it still comes out at least once a month. Other more expensive and probably “better” cameras have come and gone, but the 635 is still here. I was travelling internationally for a month with work at the end of last year (more on that in a vid coming soon) and I could only really justify carrying one film camera with me. And after weeks of deliberation, it was the 635 that ended up in my bag. With hindsight I think that says a lot about my preferences!! 👍

[@josephasghar]

I’m glad you said that. I have a 635 and don’t find myself wanting for anything. I was wondering what I’ve been missing out on.

[@the120ist]

@@josephasghar you’re not missing out on anything! That 635 is a gem my friend! 👍

[@colinclark3218]

How did you find using the Hasselblad compared to the Bronica? Any difference? What about the results. Hasselblad lenses better than Bronica? I ask this because I have a Bronica SQ, but have always lusted after a Hasselblad.

[@the120ist]

Now there's a question! The Hasselblad is 100% more reliable than the S2A... there's no interesting anticipation of how the camera will render a specific scene. But I like that about my S2A, it's taken me years to get that stubborn mule working for me, and because of that I love it. We have a bond! Now, the SQA is a different beast. It's more modern, more reliable, I have one of those as well. I think perhaps comparing a 500CM to an SQA is not right, because they're different eras. If anything between those two, the SQA lacks some character... lacks that little buzz of uncertainty. 500CM vs S2A - the 500CM is the better camera hands down, BUT, I still choose my S2A because of the bond we have.

[@colinclark3218]

@@the120ist Many thanks for your honest opinion. Happy shooting - whichever you take out with you.

[@Steaphany]

Have you ever tried an Mamiya RB67 ? I love my Pro SD and these are greatly less than a Hasse

[@the120ist]

I haven’t tried an RB67, but it’s a camera I’m always on the lookout for. I’ll have one some day!

[@easystreetphoto2401]

they're just really good cameras and they do not quit

[@the120ist]

They are great cameras, for sure. And they definitely seem to have fewer issues than other similar cameras in the MF SLR 6x6 genre. I'm sure I will own one, one day!

[@simonwilliams6140]

Here’s the thing, you’re unlikely to lose money when you buy any used medium format camera so it’s really just “opportunity” cost. Whether you drop £600 on a Bronica or £2,000 on a Hasselblad, that money’s not gone; you can realise those funds anytime you need them. I bought a Mamiya 7 a few years back, don’t especially like it and I’ve not used it much but it won’t owe me anything when I sell. If I’d bought a 500 CM instead (wish I had, actually) then I’d be no worse off. The money I would have saved at the time getting a perfectly capable Bronica would have run though my fingers long since…

[@the120ist]

Ha, that is a good point. So to clarify... you consider your cameras like a savings account, is that it!? I do agree with you though, joking aside. I don't tend to flinch too much about dropping 600-700 on a medium format camera (provided I have the cash of course), because you're right, if I want those funds back I can sell it again, usually for exactly the same price. Or sometimes for a little bit more, if I give it a good clean while I have it! Amazing how few people take the time to clean a camera properly. Now, to the people who claim that Hasselblads are overpriced and values have inflated too quickly - a camera, or anything in fact, is worth what someone will pay for it. The only risk you run when buying a camera like a Hasselblad is that either the value will go down while it's in your possession - unlikely given there are no more being made - or that it breaks while it's in your possession. Which would indeed be heartbreaking.

[@illitrait]

"...So to clarify... you consider your cameras like a savings account, is that it!?" ...."savings account"? Just so we are clear, @@the120ist, as an investment, Leica M film cameras and/or lenses outperform anything offered by UK high street bank accounts. This has been the case for the last 15-20 years.

[@alessandrosignorini9556]

"please don't push the magazine...." and he did it

[@the120ist]

Someone else said this... what did I do wrong? I should have pushed the catch across to reduce wear on the clips? is that it?

[@medwynroberts]

Interesting stuff, new sub, cheers.

[@the120ist]

Thanks, glad you found it interesting!

[@Nick_r]

Couldn’t get on with my 500cm so ditched it after a year in favour of the GW690iii which seems to be a keeper so far. I’m a Leica M user so I guess rangefinders just work for me,

[@the120ist]

Interesting! I’m not totally sold on the rangefinders yet… I find it hard to handle not seeing what the lens is seeing! But we all love what we use most right?

[@Nick_r]

@@the120ist I tried a 500cm and a C330f couldn’t get on with either. Partly handling but also don’t like 6x6 format. 645 is too small but haven’t tried 6x7 or 6x8 to be fair.

[@the120ist]

@@Nick_r Having now spent some time with a GW690iii I can confirm that I totally agree with you! I would choose the Fuji over the Hasselblad or Mamiya any day!

[@Nick_r]

@@the120ist Maybe one day when finances allow you’ll grab another. I thought having a fixed lens might be a problem but it didn’t seem to bother me. If I had my time again I might get the wide angle version as I mostly do landscapes rather than portraits.

[@genegoranov5865]

I've bought it and I am content :)

[@the120ist]

I bet you are! Such a special camera, if you can afford it. Enjoy! 👍👍

[@jacovanlith5082]

Mind the brand names of the lenses.for your 500 C/M Lenses are made by Zeiss, Scheider and Rodenstock. If you wush you can use DIY mounted lenses of different brands by the alumium cilinder with the Hasselblad mount.

[@diveaddict6885]

Very dependable camera, best glass

[@the120ist]

It is a great camera, for sure. There's no denying it! And actually, I think the Hasselblad has something over some of the other really good quality cameras I've shot with (C330, GW690) in that it combines extraordinary quality with character. And that's not common. Eugh... maybe I will have to get myself one...

[@jacovanlith5082]

What is the weight of the Kowaflex 66 ?

[@the120ist]

I'm not sure, I haven't been able to get my hands on one yet. But I will, one day!

[@victordesabata]

Wow didn't know that hassies got so expensive now. It used to be much more affordable. It's a great system worthy of investment though - extremely reliable, abundance of parts for replacement and lenses and accessories. There just aren't many comparable systems out there except the RB/RZ system.

[@the120ist]

The prices started shooting up about five years ago. But like you say, and as others have said, it's not a bad investment. They are more reliable than many brands, there are still plenty about for parts, still repairers that will work on them etc. So I guess if you're going to drop this kind of money on a 6x6 120 camera, you could do worse!

[@Dahrenhorst]

I beg to differ. I worked a lot with Hasselblads during my three years of photography apprenticeship. I had to learn, that Hasselblads are *_not_* reliable, when you really work them. Also, besides the Mamiyas, there are a few other Hasselblad style systems available, some of them as least as good as the Hasselblads: the Zenza Bronicas, the Kowa Super 66, the Rolleiflex SL66 (which uses the same lenses as the Hasselblad, just with a different mount) and 6000 series, the Fuji GX-680, and the Kiev 88 / ARAX CM.

[@roiloubia4483]

I think that you forgot the Pentax 6x7, 67 and the 67II. The Pentax 67 lenses are just exquisite.

[@shelliecarlson7015]

Do you feel you Bronicas are the least bit lacking after shooting the Hassalblas? Like, "I don't want to shoot my crappy S2A, now!"

[@the120ist]

Interesting question! I’m going to say no… but I think that’s mainly because my S2A is like an old friend now! We’ve been on a long journey together. I’m heading out to do a shoot tonight, do some long exposure stuff. Now, if I had any old Bronica or that hasselblad available to choose from, which one would I go for? Hmmm… it might be the hasselblad actually, but only because it is that bit sharper and the images a little cleaner, and that would be a big benefit to compensate for the higher ISO I’ll be using and the reciprocity failure colour cast I’ll likely get. But the hasselblad isn’t available to me, and I am totally excited about heading out with my trusty S2A! I think what I’m basically saying is that I need one of every camera ever made.

[@shelliecarlson7015]

@@the120ist "I think what I’m basically saying is that I need one of every camera ever made." This, I understand. It seems, we have next Monday off. Kinda getting excited to grab my Bronica SQ and hit the Airforce museum . I ordered an S2A, but it wont be here until next week sometime. After watching your S2A videos, I can not wait to shoot it. Oh well, the SQ will have to do. LOL

[@the120ist]

@@shelliecarlson7015 you’re going to love that S2A! I genuinely feel some sort of weird connection with mine. I get excited about going on adventures with it and trying new stuff. More vids with the S2A are coming very soon! I scanned the negatives this evening, and I can tell you that camera is purring like a kitten. Long may it last!

[@shelliecarlson7015]

@@the120ist can't wait for mine!

[@the120ist]

@@shelliecarlson7015 let me know how you get on!

[@jacovanlith5082]

You forgot to place the film in the right way;. Arrow on the backing paper at the red arrow of insert.

[@the120ist]

And yet it worked out just fine!

[@andyvan5692]

NO, you are not "ready to go"....just yet, you still need to wind_on to frame 1 using the small crank on the film magasine (if you use the main knob, you have to 'waste' 9 or 10 shots until the back is at frame 1).

[@the120ist]

Do you know what's fascinating? I don't get any comments on any of my other videos telling me I'm doing it wrong, although I undoubtedly do get things wrong in other videos. But it's only the Hasselblad video where I've had loads of comments about every step of the process, from people just dying to tell me I'm doing it all wrong!

[@andyvan5692]

@@the120ist sorry :-( but as they are collectors items, AND the film is AUD $20 per roll, we don't want you wasting film!! ( declining the film stocks for no purpose!)- or worse breaking something on the camera itself, as Hasselblad, as of 2018? were taken over by DJI (gopro maker); so parts and accessories\lenses are getting rare, esp. for the V-system models{~1957 vintage - 2003?}, and we just LOVE them so much, both in the feel, the sound, and the quality of their Carl Zeiss glass ( and affordable to, compared to the SONY or Cannon versions!); we just get a bit overzellous sometimes, we want the youtube community (who can video themselves confidently)- some of us have communication disabilities {Autism, Stutter, etc} which means we can't, we want the RIGHT way to use it portrayed by you!, we don't mean to berrate or worse, just constructively critisize, so readers can see the right way, if, by indiference, or otherwise, you did it differently.

[@the120ist]

@@andyvan5692 No apologies needed, I wasn't complaining, just making an observation that for some weird reason it's only on this video that I get loads of comments about what I did wrong, and not on any others. As I say, I'm sure i do things wrong on all my vids, but no one comments. I totally take your points though, all very valid, and I absolutely do not want to do damage to any camera, because as you rightly say, if you break it now there's little chance of it being fixed. I'm sure there will be another Hasselblad video in my future, and I will genuinely make sure I take all these comments on board. Thanks for taking the time to write the comments, I'm honestly not upset, just fascinated how different cameras / brands get different reactions.

[@TheObscureAlternative]

Yes.

[@the120ist]

Indeed!

[@andyvan5692]

also you MISSED the paper clamp, there is a tab, which the film goes UNDER, this clamps the roll, to stop unwinding , and the ripping of the paper when installing this 'insert' into the shell, YES, this is an insert /shell style magasine, just NOT the same as bronica etrs/sq/gs 's are.

[@sophietucker1255]

I think the thing with the Leica and Hasselblad is that they can make you more aware of what you’re doing. When I use my 503CX I find myself taking a bit more care with my framing, composition and exposures than when I’m using my Nikon F or F2. I’d like a Leica possibly for the same reasons but I have problems with rangefinder cameras so I’ll stick with my Canon P when I feel the need for some rangefinder shooting. I have noticed the motor driven versions are for some reason usually a bit cheaper than than the non motorized ones. There are some real bargains to be had for the 500 ELM’s and even the 553

[@the120ist]

I know what you mean, there's a psychological effect of having that pride camera in your hands. You want to give it everything it needs to perform, rather than perhaps snapping away without too much thought if you have a cheaper camera in your hands. It's definitely a valid point. I get a similar response when shooting with the S2A though. For different reasons though... with my S2A I've spent hours repairing it over the years, so I spend time making sure I have everything right partly because I want it to shine, and I want the photos to show off how good the camera is, but also partly because if a new problem crops up I want to be able quickly identify what the problem is, and not wonder if it was perhaps down to my error in taking the photo. Lots to be had from Leicas and Hasselblads though, for sure.

[@martin-f5482]

You're absolutely right! Compared to a Rolleiflex or Zenza Bronica there are no better results possible.

[@the120ist]

I agree. I’ve peaked. I should retire now 🤣

[@qwiklok]

Hassy was right for its time, when medium format was king for clarity and precision vs 35mm. Common sense. small sensor v s large sensor idea. Physics. regardless of how good Canon optics were, size matters. Then digital. And d as rhis got better and better, the medium format was challenged and hassy simply did not compare anymore, the king has a tiny kingdom of die hards but the reality is that Sony can equal it or better for much less. So hassy lost out. when they came out with a digital back, the price was insane. 25,000? or more? for what? you're right. over rated like Leica. People who buy them will stand behind them because of their huge investment. Can't admit Defeat. it would look stupid. Will you ever get 4x the quality for 4x the cost? Never. Diminishing returns on maybe 2% subjective so called improvement whatever that is. Besides, what is excellence anyway? Often flaws are the beautiful things in photographs. I'll pass.

[@the120ist]

Totally agree. They're good cameras, for sure, nothing can take that away from them. But the quality alone doesn't justify the price tag, then or now. Ultimately, why do we choose to shoot film right now, in 2022? It's not for perfect images, ultimate sharpness etc. We shoot film for the character right? And for me perfection in a camera and lens robs the image of character. I have three photos printed and framed in my lounge, all taken with my Bronica S2A, all great photos, and all with a deep history behind them of my journey with that camera that only I know, and of course a deep history of my relationship with the subjects. They make me smile every time I look at them, even three years on from taking them. And it isn't because they're perfect, that's for sure!

[@AustenGoldsmithPhotography]

My 500 cm with c80-2.8 and filmback cost me around £1200 . Cf250 f5.6 is an amazing lens ,cost me £230 Ikon netter 6x9 £35 !!! I would not part with either

[@the120ist]

That’s not a bad price at all these days! I’ve seen prices well on their way to £2k for that setup. I may rethink the Hasselblads once my Bronica journey feels like it’s nearing the end, if I ever get to that point! But for now, I have the Bronica S2A as my 6x6 SLR, and we have some ground to cover together still! One day, Hasselblad, one day!

[@AustenGoldsmithPhotography]

@@the120ist at least when my wife realises just how much I've spent I can defend myself by pointing out that the camera I purchased 8 months ago has gone up by 25 or more percent ! Hassy is as close to the Mercedes gullwing or whale tail 1980s Porsche as I will ever get !

[@p.9608]

Go for a zenza Bronica SQ-Ai. Nearly the same.

[@the120ist]

Nearly the same price at the moment as well! SQ-Ai is on my most of camera to watch out for though, I’ll definitely get my hands on one some day!

[@p.9608]

@@the120ist It's depends. A SQ-A does it too. You can use same lenses and almost same Prismfinders as on a SQ-Ai. Only the AE-III Prismfinder won't work with the SQ-A. Got a lot of these Bronicas, etr, etrsi, sq-b, sq-ai, gs-1 and a lot of lenses... But after time sold them for a Rz67 and a 500cm😅

[@jacovanlith5082]

YOU ARE WRONG. The 500 C/M was not introduced 1957 It was a different 500

[@the120ist]

Wait... are you telling me that the internet is NOT a reliable source of information?? Well damn... I just did another search and you're right, I got it wrong. I apologise.

[@jean-claudemuller122]

source : "Hassemblad Compendium" from Richerd Nordin Hasselblad 500C was launched in 1957 similar to the 501C/M launched in 1997 and assembled until 2008 before the C sytem were the 1600F launched in 1949 1000F launched in 1953

[@donwhite332]

Although they are expensive, they are way less than in the 90's when still in production. Way less. So just buy one.