Hasselblad X1D II with Dan Wang

[@3BMEP]

Guys, you've had some questions, here are some answers from Dan: 1) Re weather sealing: "...The X1D II and XCD lenses all have basic sealing against light spray and dust.." Do NOT take this to mean they are fully weather sealed, guys. 2) Re autofocus and tethering: "...it's hard to assign a specific statistic since there are many variables but the AF has been tuned on the contrast-detect system to be faster, alongside software optimization in the lenses too. The AF point is resizable (small, medium large) and movable throughout the image area, which accomplished 3 ways: tap-on-rear-LCD in live view, LCD-as-Trackpad when using the EVF, or long-pressing the AF/MF button to bring up the entire grid. The focus point can only be moved from the camera at this time You can start AF from Phocus, and switch between AF/MF, though the final featureset may grow or change once it exits the current beta into production..." 3) Re Android support: "...at the moment...not available." Sorry, that's all I've got on this one. 4) Re video: I can tell you it has been de-emphasized (I think this is the right call, BTW), which is why there's no HDMI port 5) Re EVF: "...The higher res OLED EVF is now 60FPS which improves the overall image latency, and alongside the improved internals and reduced shutter lag, the time between compose-and-capture is reduced..." 6) Re battery life: “... We do not have a CIPA rating, but battery performance are on-par with the previous model despite larger/brighter displays and improved performance. When supplemented by the expanded charging in-camera it definitely helps the powering options when shooting/traveling!...” That's it for now!

[@philipshucet9481]

Thanks Hugh and Dan. Good review. Also caught Ted’s review earlier this morning. Also good to see Dan again!

[@3BMEP]

Thanks as always for watching, Philip! Dan’s a good guy!

[@wlrohr1]

My guess is that Fuji is not losing sleep over this new competition ... but if I was Leica, at this price point I'd have serious indigestion!

[@koruki]

Kathryn Rohr “definitely”

[@koruki]

rewris care to elaborate? As a long time Leica user I’m very interested in getting this camera

[@KatherineWesterman]

Why wouldn’t Fuji be losing sleep over this

[@ricardorgomez]

I'm super excited for this camera! I LOVE form factor of it. If you stand a m43 Panasonic GX8, you'll see that it's not much bigger. It's amazing. The menu is the best in the business IMO. The connectivity is impressive. As a little detail it may be, the USB-C connectivity is a nice touch. At just under $6k, halfway affordable. 100MP would be nice but for 98% of people, way overrated. IBIS is nice but for MF, really not necessary. My two wishes are as follows: 1) Show everyone that you are here to stay by doing everything a camera company should be doing to prove it. 2) Build a 120mm f/2.8 (or faster) for that 85mm FF focal length experience. For me, at the end of the day, it's all about image quality which includes fantastic color depth. Which by even the pics shown on KZbin, which is certainly not the best medium to show it, looks pretty darn good. My buy-in for another MF camera was going to be $20k - $25k. And that is for a refurbished, 8-year old system. Still awesome. But the opportunity to get a new system, with new tech, in a much smaller package, for less than half the price and possibly equal the image quality is going to be tough to deny. Really tough.

[@waveland]

It's lovely. But all they did was catch up the old model to where it should have been in the first place. And for those who spent upwards of $10k on the original, it can't feel great to know you committed that much money to be a beta tester for a camera that now costs half as much.

[@mattglenn6224]

There has always been a high price to being the first to get new technology/products. That's just the way tech is.

[@drunkbusdriver4182]

@@mattglenn6224 that doesn't mean it has to be undeveloped and overpriced, the fuji system didn't dropped by 50%, or did it?

[@SD_Alias]

Hmmm, would be a little bit upset if I had recently bought the previous model for 9500 € and I can now get the same, only slightly improved model for 5000 €. Compared to the price it cost short time ago the X1D I is now worth almost nothing on the second hand market. That are the risks of investing in fast changing market in digital photography. I feel a bit sorry too for Leica. I do not think many pros will buy a 23000€ S3 (only body) with GFX or X1D II as competitor...

[@paulbentley2709]

It's very cruel for the prior adopter. Their investment is crippled.

[@kellyhh1371]

This is the case for every technology ever. Buying cameras has always carried the risk of the next generation coming out right after you bought the old one. Nothing new here.

[@giancarlodambrosio230]

still 1080p? or this is coming in 4k for video ?

[@3BMEP]

Giancarlo D'Ambrosio Great question! I don’t know. I’ll find out.

[@KevinRaber]

Nice Hugh, still no 100 mp. Good to see HB has improved the camera in the ways described

[@3BMEP]

Kevin Raber Hey, Kevin! You back home?

[@KevinRaber]

@@3BMEP Yes, and photopxl.com is live

[@myhandlewastaken]

In a way, I'm happy that the II isn't a massive upgrade. At the same time, this is a firmware update disguised as a new camera. Not going out of my way for a usb-c and touch screen improvements.

[@obscur_yoann]

Henry R. Bigger and way better EVF and screen, faster everywhere... it is a massive improvement. But didn’t make the first one bad, on that I agree. 😉

[@silvestrocrino3256]

New Processor, New EVF, New LCD, New faster SD II drives, USB-C that charges camera.... this are all hardware improvements to the camera.... and yes, new firmware with a better Menu system....

[@myhandlewastaken]

@@silvestrocrino3256 yet, still not worth the cost of replacement.

[@silvestrocrino3256]

@@myhandlewastaken ... Perhaps, I'll know better when mine arrives... but to say that its only a Firmware and price changes is just plain silly.

[@myhandlewastaken]

@@silvestrocrino3256 if you value quality-of-life changes that much, by all means. For me, there's nothing silly about looking for more over the first iteration than speed for what it's going to cost.

[@serabande]

When will x1d 3 come?

[@3BMEP]

Great question. And what will it come with?

[@rmrfboy]

hey mate, what’s that yellow wrist band ur wearing? it looks cool. Nice video btw. thanks for sharing

[@3BMEP]

rmrfboy my pleasure. Road ID - from the days after open heart surgery and marathons. Now I wear it more as a reminder for how fortunate I am more than anything else.😊

[@PhotoBob]

This is an x1d redo and not a real second generation camera. This isn’t very impressive to me. HOWEVER that doesn’t change the fact that the ergos, menu system, and lenses are all top notch and it has to be a fun camera to shoot

[@3BMEP]

Photo Bob What WOULD you call a real second generation camera? I’ll have more to say about this soon. :)

[@manilamartin1001]

I rented the first gen. Camera for a week with my coworkers. It was amazing to hold. Unfortunately, it was glitchy and not fun to take out and shoot friends. The camera was difficult tonuse in the real world. I think I got spoiled with face and eye detect. One of these days gonna rent this second gen. I hope the glitches are fixed.

[@drunkbusdriver4182]

This shows that Hasselblad isn't Hasselblad anymore, just a Name for the Chinese Portfolio. They just fixed the bugs from the first Version and sell it as something new? Looking forward for a comparsion with the 50s.

[@Innovate-pq9ci]

Mathew they changed what they could without R&D: firmware and EVF component. It's probably their last run, I don't see this being able to compete vs Fuji, cheaper and way ahead in technology

[@3BMEP]

Let’s keep this constructive, please. Thanks!

[@Innovate-pq9ci]

Three Blind Men and An Elephant Productions agreed! I'm just hypothesyzing about the future, just like you often do in your great videos :)

[@3BMEP]

Sacha Martin no worries - was addressing this more to Mathew.

[@koruki]

You’re right. They should just close down and die like all the others right? That’s what you want

[@vpr5562]

DJI, thx for dropping the price. Now add ibis and make it 5k.

[@brakesforsnakes757]

Wishful thinking. They know they don't have any real competition so they will continue to make incremental and useful upgrades.

[@brakesforsnakes757]

@@rewris In the same way a Ferrari is not for everyone the same can be said for Hasselblad. This company serves a very niche market.

[@cesarebonazza]

Please when you test that camera mount any flash on top of it and use the leaf shutter at higher speed with a subject totally back light, and tell me now if you can control the EVF so he do not go totally dark. On the older model that was a real nuisance. Because he camera was always trying to expose for the background and my subject now was so dark I couldn’t see any expression. And I did try to use different spot central metering mode but no avail. Thank you 🙏

[@obscur_yoann]

Are they planning some new lenses? Now that the initial roadmap is completed, I am curious to see their next move... I will like to see some more compact lenses (if possible) and maybe some IS lenses (if possible too).

[@Oculus729]

"Higher refresh rate"....... but he didn't comment on EVF lag. Any comment on that? Any comment on the camera having "snappier" (his word) focus? Thanks.

[@saniwada]

the higher refresh rate means that the Lag you describe should be reduced

[@villagranvicent]

Just coming from your Episode #3 about the original X1D, oh my... if this one is fast enough for travel photography I will give it serious consideration, I have a trip to China on November and would be awesome to take it with me to celebrate my 50th b 'day. MUCH nicer form factor than any of the Fujis BTW.

[@ahxoua]

What's the battery life?

[@3BMEP]

Chong Lor Didn’t have it long enough to run the battery down, but I just sent a note to Hassy asking.

[@vinapiximages]

I think the X1D is the most beautiful camera ever made... but compared to the Fujifilm GFX100S it falls way behind on specs... Two different concepts, I know... but the Fuji is on my shopping list. How about a comparison one day Hugh? (PS. Thank you so very much for one of the best and most interesting photography sites on KZbin)

[@saniwada]

the fuji is nearly 2x the price

[@Innovate-pq9ci]

Sani Wada fuji GFX starts at $5300. Their new GFX100 is $9995. How is it 2x the price of hasselblad?

[@saniwada]

@@Innovate-pq9ci the x1dii costs $5750

[@saniwada]

@@Innovate-pq9ci he was comparing to the gfx100s

[@Innovate-pq9ci]

@@saniwada yes but it's not the same league, X1D is 2016 generation.

[@bigpepper88]

Definately

[@KS-nv8lr]

Great video, Hugh ! “Home away from home” - that is a great place there in Soho. You know that I sold my X1D just before our workshop, my only disappointment was the AF performance. Not AF acquisition speed or precision because those were great. But the lack of AF point grouping, and lack of AF modes is a dealbreaker for every dynamic scene. Touch focus, ok, I get it, but Fuji managed to put a decent ‘auto’ AF system on the very same sensor. I would never buy the GFX 50’s but jump on the X1D II if AF experience was improved. What was your feeling on the AF when using it ?

[@3BMEP]

Hey, Karl! It was definitely snappier than the original, but still much slower than current smaller sensor cameras. I’m developing a clear sense for what and for whom it is best suited. Stay tuned.

[@amereinterlude]

Exciting times. Let’s see if the Mk 2 can iron out all the issues people reported back on the first one. Looking forward to your hands-on review with interest.

[@obscur_yoann]

My dream camera of all time is now better in every ways and cheaper... I am beginning to save money. One day I will make my dream come true, one day! Thanks Hugh for this preview. 😍

[@MotoFotoe]

The camera is out of my price range, but I do have a question? If your an Android person like millions of people then no tethering I am guessing?

[@simonwilliams2109]

Thanks Hugh.

[@kellyhh1371]

Definitely

[@normankleinberg5525]

I know, but I'll give the guy a break. He's probably just nervous, not used to being interviewed on camera.

[@vicibox]

Hmmmm dont really get this iPad focus that I am seeing all around photography now. I guess I was an early adopter on tablets but have now completely lost it with tablets, for me they are a huge limitation. End of the month will be the first trip I take without a tablet and I am so happy to be shot of it and its silly bluetooth keyboard. What I have been waiting for is a power solution to replace tablets; what we called in the 80s, a Life Drive inspired by AC Clarkes electronic organiser in, I forget which, book. Everything locked to a single drive combination in a small package; your life in a small package. Of course such a thing wasnt really possible. But, it is now with the new generation of miniturised quad core processors and touch screens. I have replaced all my computers and devices with an HP 13in 7i Spectre 360 4K Touch Screen Ultrabook connected to a docking station driving my 27in ASUS/B&O monitor desk setup. Not enough power, no problem add an external GPU, drive etc to the docking station. No Tablet? No problem I bend the keyboard behind and its a touch screen tablet. This HP is tiny and its pretty much the same size as a Pixel Slate. I have no doubt at all that this is now the future. This works well and by the time I replace it there will be less limitations to the technology as processors spiral up in power. Now I have a full power computer with my entire life on it tucked into my Crumpler Doozie bag, next to my camera and pixel2 XL phone; I cant see me going back, I am finding this fantastic, I dont use mobile solutions my main computer is my mobile solution. ;-)

[@roybixby6135]

Hasselblad should support the H system...

[@kipling1957]

I guess I need to research the Mk I, since that background knowledge the unspoken assumption.

[@3BMEP]

kipling1957 See my review of it!

[@kipling1957]

Three Blind Men and An Elephant Productions I certainly will. Thanks!

[@EmilMirzakhanian]

First of all, congratulations on your very interesting channel. I usually don't write any comments; nevertheless, I must spend a few words in this case. Being part of the first group of the people that believed and trusted Hasselblad enough to buy the X1D system, I must ask, what about us? Did we overpay for a defected product that is still struggling to function properly? How can they sell the X1DII, supposedly an improved model for such a lower price? Is this how Hasselblad treats its trusting customers? yes, how about us? I am really disappointed and feel cheated. I would like to hear your opinion on this, Please! Thank you!

[@3BMEP]

I understand your frustration - but I see it differently. Even beginning with the first Leica and first Hasselblad, running all the way up to the first Sony a7, now the first Nikon Zs and first Canon R’s, the history of cameras is the history of evolution and refinement - and improving manufacturing and pricing efficiencies. It’s just as true with cars, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, medical procedures, building materials, etc. I’ll have more to say about this in an upcoming video. Please hold that thought. :)

[@EmilMirzakhanian]

@@3BMEPProductions, Thank you for your reply. I understand your point. A brief note about myself, I own quite a few Leica film and digital M cameras and lenses. I have also had experience with Nikon, Sony and ....Hasselblad film and the last CCD medium format they made. I am not trying to show off as a collector of some sort or as an expert of any kind,,,,, I have always been understanding with the price choices of the various companies because there was an evolutionary logic that I somehow understood and accepted as part of the game, Not this time! this time it feels like a simple bad taste, careless if you wish, nevertheless I feel ripped off and so do a couple of other friends that are in the same situation. Thank you for your understanding.

[@manilamartin1001]

@@EmilMirzakhanian i understand your pain. I rented the first gen and my friend rented the fuji. He ended up getting the fuji because after a week with hassy 1 it was too glitchy with the slowness and inaccurateness. It really didnt have the refinement of the fuji. I am looking at this now and still wondering if it has decent face detect. Im worried hassy has been falling behind. The new leica sl2 is looking good btw.

[@Slayer1111111111able]

man I really want iPad tethering on my Sony

[@KenTheoriaApophasis]

no phase detect AF alpha & Omega

[@Davide.Soliani]

🥰

[@robotic381]

盲人摸象 this that where the name of the channel coming from?

[@3BMEP]

We named the company and channel after an Indian parable (which I’ve subsequently learned has variants in Chinese culture as well others, too). See: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant

Price price price, what is the price going to be most importantly?

[@bayerischergrantlhuaber5876]

5K€

[@bayerischergrantlhuaber5876]

Press-Release says 5K.. www.hasselblad.com/press/press-releases/hasselblad-expands-reach-of-medium-format/ EXCL. Tax, so you're right...;)