Have personality tests in East Asia gone too far?

[@aini_]

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[@thngzys]

Right when video released 15 minutes before bedtime. Well played bro.

[@Weird0Memer]

It's only 1pm

[@Dj-ft6ez]

Hello, maybe you won't see this, but I had to say it anyway. MBTI is deeper than just 16p. The people that bash it don't do their research or only do it surface level and bring the 16p form of MBTI. This is actually infuriating and sad, and I'm sick of it. It's always the "MBTI is bad, how dare you put people in a box" thing and never the fact that it's for understanding yourself and others. While I agree that it shouldn't be used to hire people, it just sounds like you're on the hate train. Sorry if I offended you. You don't actually have to care about this, it's just my opinion.

[@compactprism]

@@Dj-ft6ez i don't think you watched the full video

[@teeheeleelee]

Thanks for your trip story. I once thought I’d pass a silent fart in class and ended up doing a loud, long cheek slapper. That keeps me up at night.. 😢

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

How to write a horoscope/personality test: Say something, then immediately take it back. Example: "You're organized, but sometime don't care to order things."

[@alexterieur8813]

« You love books but you’re illiterate »

[@marvnch]

​@@alexterieur8813 me 😭

[@dampsok]

You claim to have read all of the books in your massive collection, and use that to leverage yourself into the lives of people far more intelligent than you, yet you don't even know how to read at all.

[@-Desire]

You're a poopy pants but would never poop your pants?

[@ereh11]

You love desserts, but you often despise sweets

[@youbetterstanloona6717]

As a nerd in the cognitive functions and the whole personality test shenanigans, Limiting yourself to the four letter personality type you got defeats the purpose of...having a personality. Being human is complex and can't be encapsuled so easily. I think MBTI nowadays is best used for fun stuff like dissecting fictional characters because they usually are fixed with a personality to fit in a role inside the story. Doing so with a human just feels like you're turning someone into a character inside a box.

[@octopus8978]

I haven’t done an mbti test in a while but I felt like the descriptions on either sides fit me some says I may feel more extroverted but also introverted

[@EstellammaSS]

I’m not sure if I can speak for all but most people that took the MBTI test doesn’t take it that seriously. It’s more like a “you might have these tendencies” we can check ourselves with. It’s very well known that the test results change very often and can help in social situations by basically telling people “im the more emotional type” or “im not mad/tired, just shy” without having to say any personal stuff. It’s pretty neat as long as you understand its limitations

[@venevose506]

yessirrrrr mbti belongs to the PDB of fictional characters alone

[@1004ism]

literally ! wish people would really get more into typology instead of solely relying on 16p.Even tough its pretty taxing its much better than just going along with 16p results.

[@venevose506]

​@@1004ism Yeah, if ya care to put in the time to understand, you do so. If you don't, you don't, and so be it, thus is life 😭

[@NoMoreCrumbs]

MBTI is just astrology for business majors. Personality is far more complex than any test can meaningfully measure. Don't get fooled into adopting it as a way of viewing yourself and others Also, if it helps you to shake off its influence, Carl Jung (the Swiss psychiatrist who founded personality testing as we see it now) also believed that no personality could be measured with such crude instruments

[@da_copreee9929]

Also the MBTI test was NOT made by college educated people.

[@night_xylo]

I agree. At most, if we don't take it as completely correct and as a way to compare ourselves to it, we can get an idea of our habits and tendencies. But we also need to observe ourselves and self reflect instead of something else doing it for us

[@hi-qw5vp]

And the thing is true personality tests also test the veracity of your answers. This mbti test is only around 100 questions and take your answers as facts, very easy to manipulate

[@doujinflip]

It does though have measurable correlation with the Big-5 and HEXACO used in actual psychology, unlike say the Western and Chinese zodiacs which can be better explained by the worldly experiences of a cohort who just happen to be born that year or in that stage in the academic calendar.

[@en2336]

yup there was studies where people who took the test got a different result taking it again 5 minutes later. it's bull based on how we feel in the moment and perceive ourselves, which depends on our self awareness and changes often

[@ljacs3009]

I am very ashamed to admit that when I hear ABO, blood type is NOT the first thing that comes to mind

[@yanstein8464]

oof... that makes at least two of us

[@MicroCheese64]

I’m afraid to ask what that is…

[@Unhappytimeaper]

@@MicroCheese64 alpha beta omega. lots of lore but, ironically basically what men were using as a personality test no long ago either [i know thats not what it's in reference too but it ironic to me that became it's own personality grouping]

[@DoubLL]

I blame Lindsay Ellis for this forbidden knowledge.

[@xoxo94]

Does it have anything to do with fanfictions?

[@xerostar33]

My MBTI: IDK 🤷🏻‍♂️ My blood type: Red

[@AttaBek1422]

I feel sorry for your local blood bank 💀

[@dearthditch]

lol. Tho Japan could actually make you prove your type. At least in Korea you can lie

[@greenpichon8482]

@@dearthditch LOL "Only MBTI with the letter E" like I can't just pretend I'm an entp

[@cricula]

😂❤

[@l2enegadesofFunk]

You're my spirit animal bro I also have no idea what either of mine are lol

[@luisaguilar5343]

"I only hang out with Ravenclaw and Slytherin types. Hufflepuff and Griffyndor types need not apply"

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Ok Voldemort

[@andyhp6057]

Owh man, I guess we can't hang out after all. Sorry blud

[@hypothalapotamus5293]

The sorting hat put me in slytherin due to a policy of deVoldification. Can we not generallize about these things?

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@hypothalapotamus5293 Nice try, Tom Riddle.

[@KazuichiSoda.]

Phew, I'm glad about that one

[@evildoesnotsleep-x2b]

it's a lazy and uncouth way to view people, besides being inacurate. just take the time to get to know someone deeply, there are no shortcuts for this

[@boopdoop2251]

Yes, it’s supposed to be a starting point for understanding basic drives, not a whole person entirely. It certainly shouldn’t be used to decide if someone is fit for a job or not.

[@windowbreezes]

its the “ online profile syndrome”. all your traits become categorized

[@stephenbachmeier913]

Though I agree, I do think it’s a good starting point and (even though I haven’t finished the video) it makes sense in conformity and unity cultures that these would become popular for figuring out who one is outside their cultures preferred personalities. As with everything; these should be taken in moderation and with skepticism

[@windowbreezes]

its prevalent in “hive minded” social groups, trends are followed. asians tend to think like this as they’re group-thinkers.

[@bunniewood]

This is a very Asian mindset

[@timwang4659]

Discovering MBTI during adolescence was crucial for me in developing a sense of identity. As an adult though, I've realized personality does change somewhat and you can't take the MBTI as gospel. It was just a good starting point to figuring out who you are.

[@saaramohamed8921]

yeah it was a fun test I took to find my strenths and wekanesses and finding myself, plus it changes a lot based on when i take it

[@ZaWarudo69]

Yeah, agreed. But one should also keep in mind that their mbti is not the crystal clear reflection of who they are, hence, they shouldn’t let it entirely define them or restrict them from performing certain activities.

[@TheParez]

Yes! I've been thinking this exact same thing myself. Like ffs people, any kinds of tests are not set in stone nor are they 100% accurate. Stop taking everything, even already published academic articles which have been peer reviwed as a gospel. Think for yourself.

[@chriskeyes6933]

There's also a lot more to the lore than the basic test descriptions. There's the cognitive functions, the "four sides" concept (in which less common functions can front in certain situations). It's a lot more complex than just "one solid type".

[@jezlawrence720]

It's a silly test, because it's dependent entirely on your existing self image. It just confirms what you already think about yourself and frames it back to you as a revelation. This is why whenever someone (I'm in the UK) asks me to take the test, it comes out different *because it depends on my mood and thus self image at the time* Absolute hokum.

[@s8x.]

mbti mainly took over in korea. tbh it’s a good conversation starter to see if ur similar to someone without going into details about ur personality😂 that should be it tho. jobs looking for specific mbti’s is insane

[@L17_8]

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[@pramitpratimdas1071]

People are already too judgmental, don't need to add pseudoscience into the mix.

[@kennethkho7165]

11:05

[@senorfrog5605]

korea has a tendency to take things too far. i wonder how much they're going to let feminism ruin their country even more.

[@MaryK02]

I swear koreans are being like that wannabe kid who tries too hard to bring back a trend thats already died a decade ago... I remember in lates 2010s people were doing this tests in school for fun, but now due to kwave its all over again and its funny how they take it all so seriously.. for americans it's astrology, for koreans its mbti. Just another way to put people in boxes and make assumptions on them.

[@blewgween8081]

All the personality type nerds know that mbti is shit, and learning cognitive functions provides more nuance. At least it acknowledges that people cannot simply be introverts or extroverts, it's always tied to a perceiving and judging function. You are not a T or an F, an S or an N, you're capable of all of it. It's just a matter of which one is extroverted and introverted, what axis you prioritize, and in what order. I'm not claiming this is the 'real' thing that can define who you are, but it is definitely more helpful in understanding bits and pieces of your behavior compared to mbti that merely relies on stereotypes. Either way, this whole thing shouldn't be used by corporations to hire or dismiss certain type of people, that's just dumb.

[@TheParez]

MBTI itself isnt a bad thing. It's the fact that people take the assesements too literally. My motto for most things in life is to take everything with a grain of salt. I'd recommend this for everybody else as well...

[@SoggycereaI]

The problem is people never get into cognitive functions because, just as this video presents, they keep showing the damn 16personalities test. When... the site itself says it's not MBTI in it's theory section!! [It's actually akin to OCEAN, though still a mockery of it...] It's incredibly frustrating. Cognitive Functions are not as shallow or strict as everything presents MBTI to be. East Asia is such a bad driver of this.

[@renren47618]

​@@SoggycereaI16p MBTI sucks and it resulted in the Astrology Big Five edition that became popular, while most people don't even know what are cognitive functions or maybe even read anything that Carl Jung ever wrote except maybe the shadow concept. At the same time i think that most people wouldn't understand the Function system or just not have patience to understand it so i kind of get how 16p became more popular.

[@piotrmalewski8178]

I think the problem with psychology at large is that it's trying to explain how it works; the most complicated known computer which logic structure we don't know and we may never be able to replicate, while not having any means to objectively measure what is happening inside it. Therefore, having a monkey randomly hit one of 16 buttons would be just as accurate as MBTI, and so is entire psychology. It's just a monkey sitting in front of more buttons.

[@TheParez]

@@piotrmalewski8178 It's a theory for a reason. People who blindly follow "ANYTHING" are fucking stupid.

[@SilverDragonJay]

I mean, I guess I can see the value in asking as a sort of ice breaker, the problem is in taking it too seriously. I remember taking the MBTI for a career counseling class. After we calculated our results, the teacher told us to take about ten minutes to read all of the adjacent descriptions as well and select the one that we _believed_ fit us better. Her reasoning being that while the MBTI had some value, it wasn't flawless and despite our results, we might actually feel that we belonged to a different category. I feel like this makes more sense to me. Rather then having it assigned by some test, you select it. While people don't necessarily have a 100% accurate perception of themselves, I do feel like it says something about you based on which you end up selecting. None of the descriptions were especially negative or positive, so picking your 'personality' sort of suggests what you value in yourself, how you _want_ to be even if its not necessarily how you _are._ Its like horoscopes. I think they are utter nonsense (I see no reason why the position of the stars when you were born would have any effect on who you are), but asking people what they identify with more _does_ tell you a lot about them. Like asking if someone is a dog or a cat person. If they are a dog person then you might assume they are more outgoing and friendly, perhaps better at keeping to a schedule because those are the kinds of traits that dogs most demand. But, if they are more of a cat person then you might ascertain that maybe they prefer to sit inside and watch TV or read a book because cats better facilitate that kind of lifestyle. Its not perfect, but as a quick way of getting a feel for a person, I feel like there's _some_ merit. Basically, I feel like there's more value in how we define or describe _ourselves_ even if we are a little biased versus the results of some test (or the alignment of the stars). Things like horoscopes or the MBTI can be a medium _for_ that description, but they should not be treated as prescriptive or gospel.

[@maknyc1539]

well said

[@jiafeireal]

You worded this beautifully

[@EarlyBirdForce]

I love how you put this! I try to think of these assessments as more of a time to reflect on how you see yourself (even just in that moment/context/situation) and not as a diagnosis of who you are innately.

[@Jaguarkralle1]

Your dog/cat assumption is wild

[@ww_artemis]

As an MBTI nerd, that is exactly how you should see MBTI - it's NOT A TEST, it's a typology, and the only way to find the personality that fits you the best is by learning about it and being honest to yourself. The point is to gain more insight and more understanding about not only yourself but also how other people might see or experience the world. MBTI alone absolutely cannot encapsulate the complexity of a person, everyone is different based on a lot of things, but I do think that it provides a very interesting lens to analyze people and behaviours. Also, on a more nerdy note, diving into what's called "cognitive functions" is mandatory if you want to be even remotely relevant in your MBTI analysis. To me, people who claim to be of a certain type, or who believe in the relevancy of MBTI, and don't know about cognitive functions, are just not understanding it at all, and are probably using it in the same way as one would use astrology (hence the comparisons, I guess).

[@Dinofrogg]

Specifically people in korea and not koreans in general, theyre really into mbti and blood type. My parents generations mbti was blood type. They say each blood types have their own type of personalities. Now its mbti. It's annoying because they ask "are you a f or t" where t is "bad". So they ask something like "i hit my head while jumping in the car" and if say "are you okay" you're a f and if you ask "why did you jump in the car?"you're a t. Its such a naive way of viewing peoples judgment.

[@jabloko992]

At least MBTI makes direct generalisations about the person's personality and as such actually TRIES to meaningfully describe the person. Blood types tho...

[@prismpyre7653]

And before this it was blood-type, right? In the old days it was family clans. Humans long for a tribal identity of some kind-- I have a simple theory that in societies that are extremely ethnically and culturally homogeneous, people will simply invent something else; new divisions, stratifications, and hierarchy.. it makes me despair how much the human organism seems to crave such partition and prioritization.

[@SwizzleMix]

The children yearn for a caste system

[@NoMoreCrumbs]

In a society where individuation is difficult, people will cling to meaningless superficial signifiers. In East Asia, that might be blood type or MBTI. In the Americas and Europe, it might be conspicuous consumption or astrology

[@AdamYJ]

And in some parts, it’s being sorted into your “Hogwarts House”.

[@imaginater5238]

A lot of people believe in 2 ontological motives that influence how humans react to the perception of themselves and the societies around them. 1 being that you want to be apart of something greater than yourself, and the other being to be viewed as special/distinguished. I think this is a product of a culture fueled by consumerism by the capitalist organization of the economy interacting with these ontological motives resulting in a commercialization of personality types.

[@vd130]

Yeah, as if we don't invent stupid stuff that divides us in the West too.

[@tdelioncourt1268]

My cousin works in HR (no she wouldn't select someone based on that), but she observed people around her happened to land jobs that fit their MBTI ; not an exact science but that would make sense people who declare to be more comfortable in X situation are more likely to naturally gravitate towards it. Now that being said I'm ENFP working in accounting, which is supposed to be one of the worst jobs for my type. I took a personality test for my current job and they gave me the result prior to my interview and was invited to discuss it, if I found it faithful or not. That's how it should be used, as a conversation stater, not to close doors.

[@emilytchuu9876]

Of course, I wished I knew about mbti before choosing my career path. I didn't know myself very well, I tried to do the same thing as my friends were doing, ending up doing something that I did'nt like and that wasn't my thing. Now I can use my creativity and my strong organizational skill in my job and it is perfect.

[@PrinceOfTheSound]

@detective2221 are they a basic person or are you reflecting?

[@JimCullen]

I once heard MBTI described as "astrology for self-described intellectuals", and that stuck with me. Btw, Karl Landsteiner was Austrian, not Australian! That blood type personality stuff has some very icky phrenology/eugenics undertones to it.

[@aini_]

Ahhhhhh you’re right, I totally misread!!! thanks for correcting my mistake :)

[@L17_8]

Jesus loves you ❤️Please turn to him and repent and receive Salvation before it's too late. The end times written about in the Bible are already happening in the world. Jesus is the son of God and he died for our sins on the cross and God raised him from the dead on the third day. Jesus is waiting for you with open arms but time is running out. Please repent and turn to him before it is too late. Accept Jesus into your heart and invite him to be Lord and saviour of your life and confess and believe that Jesus is Lord, that he died for your sins on the cross and that God raised him from the dead. Confess that you are a sinner in need of God's Grace and ask God to forgive you for all your sins through Jesus. Jesus loves you. Nothing can compare to how he loves you. When he hung on that cross, he thought of you. As they tore open his back, he thought of your prayer time with him. As the thorns dug into his head, he thought of you spending time in the word of God. As the spears went into his side, he imagined embracing you in heaven.

[@onlyleon855]

"self described intellectuals"- i feel attacked...that must mean... 🥴

[@AC-dk4fp]

Myers Briggs was developed by the ETS a spin off from the American College Board the same group that adapted the original Binet-IQ test to create the L SAT so its even more connected to Eugenics. The goal was to create a "Complete Census of Abilities" that would re-order the entirity of American society among 'Rational' lines but only Myers Briggs got anywhere near a usuable state so the program got abandoned and the ETS' trustees forced it to stay with its original intended remit. There's literally a Gundam villain with the same plan. If the Supreme Court hadn't upheld Lyndon Johnson's 'Affirmitive Action' executive order Eugenecists might have been able to block basically all minorities from American higher education. There's a history book about it called "The Big Test". Carl Jung was a big fan of astrology and personality astrology is essentially a 20th century discipline that postdates Freud's early work on personality and only became popular when newspapers started regularly carrying horoscopes in the 1930s.

[@mealovesyu]

Whoever said that was a moron who ironically thinks they are an intellectual while commenting on things they clearly do not understand.

[@ellcleland-batt310]

I was obsessively into mbti and especially the cognitive functions as a young teenager. i'm autistic, and it definitely gave me a framework for understanding other people's perspectives and priorities in a way that was extremely helpful as someone who struggled with strangers, empathy, and socialization. while i'm no longer attached to the mbti (it is a pseudoscience, and deeply flawed) i still sometimes process the world through cognitive functions to a degree. i've often been in arguments with a person where I realized that, say, I was prioritizing a logical internal order (Ti) where they were prioritizing an external order (Te), or that someone was very good at understanding and accounting for the emotions of others (Fe) but struggled with introspection and understanding their own emotions (Fi) and defining these tendencies through cognitive functions has been helpful to me in recognizing and responding to differences between people

[@-Raylight]

Imagine judging people from their personality test. Especially when doing a job interview, we'll never be able to work for a company 🤣🤣

[@doujinflip]

Personality tests may be flawed, but personality itself is a big driver for willingness, enjoyment, and ultimately competency at a job. Sadly those same societies trying to filter on personality traits also demand photos on résumés even for the most faceless back-of-house positions.

[@Moonpie90]

​@@DisorderedFleshAutomata-sm8cdI failed some grad scheme applications, one was for a role that I ended up in when anyway 18 months later when a recruiter they had paid for to fill some gaps approached me. I failed their test and they paid more to get me 😂 been promoted in that same org since so their test was wrong

[@CatgirlExplise6039]

@@doujinflip ???? Personality is your perspective on life formed by experiences and understandings alongside your innate psychological function

[@mealovesyu]

@@doujinflip They will have a heart attack when they find out some police departments in America make your take an IQ test 😂

[@WarsOfate]

In every interview, the interviewer ALWAYS makes judgement about the potential recruits..... MBTI is one of the tools being used to minimize potential conflicts.....

[@TomMinnow]

I've always found it frustrating because it asks things like "you prioritize proving your point over preserving someone's feelings" which requires you to imagine the context. Even argumentative people might choose to "preserve" feelings depending on how important the point is, the intensity of the feelings, how stubborn they know the other person to be, how much energy they have on a given day, or any number of important details that are not given. I'm hovering at 50/50 for all the types except Intuitive/observing, i always get intuiting (ironically) even though I can't intuitively guess the contexts of many of the questions.

[@revilokid]

Eh flip flop

[@McNugge.]

Are you a child or autistic? Sis you take the test at 2am? Did you even have enough sleep when taking the test? All these things play a huge factor....

[@SoggycereaI]

Please please do not do the 16Personalities test, it is genuinely not MBTI. Like I'm serious, it states in it's theory section that it's actually OCEAN/BIG5 [still a mockery of it] and that it's - essentially, clickbait. If this is something that you just would find interesting to know, then allow me, a nerd, send you a test that I can at least say is using terms properly. I can't send the link ofc but just look up "Michael Caloz Cognitive Functions test." Even then, it is still just a random internet test, but it will at least show you something about actual MBTI that you might find intriguing.

[@piotrmalewski8178]

Exactly. I have a very argumentative personality and instinctively think how to improve something, but I've lived long enough to learn that close 100% of the time one is unable to change anything and the only outcome of even a very constructive argument is going to end in troubles close to every single time. So however frustrated or even angry I may feel about something, I just ignore the problem and follow the herd or when it gets absoluetly unbearable I just quit the situation. Discussions are good at a university or when there is a very small structure tasked with solving a new problem carte blanche, but otherwise it's just trying to smash a concrete wall with your head. I strongly believe that a point is far more important than anyone's feelings, especially since a measure of maturity is to be able to cope with them and admit your mistakes, but I'm not going to upset someone at something as petty as a workplace, unless there would be a much broader and vastly more important reason to take that person down.

[@piotrmalewski8178]

@@feelic4312 The test is like having a chat with an idiot, isn't it?

[@Dizzintegration]

Ok actually two years ago I researched a lot about MBTI by influence of a friend and learned about cognitive functions, and is quite fun, like I don't take it literally or think it should be a science, but it's fun to go to personality database and see the discussions about you favorite character's type (I'm INTP btw)

[@confused7970]

Trust me i don't think that those obsessed with mbti know anything about cognitive functions

[@TheXIIWizard]

Exactly, they don’t look deeper into the dang theory that mbti is based off

[@OpheliaNL]

@@confused7970 Apparently it's pretty common for people to neglect the cognitive functions (especially in Korea) and thus they categorize themselves and others incorrectly. They get pretty stereotypical about it... I = introvert E = Extrovert N= Overthinks and is often in their own head S= Doesn't think too much, and just does things F= Feel T= Think P= More passive and can be lazy J= Assertive and goal orientated

[@chansfeet2500]

Agreed. I'm a psych student and seeing MBTI in my textbook was kind of cool since I enjoyed researching cognitive functions beforehand. In the end, it is a pseuodoscience, but it's still fun to type characters and stuff like that. It absolutely shouldn't be used in interviews.

[@BreakofDawn]

I agree, they’re fun and a good tool to use for introspection. Like sometimes I read descriptions about my personality and realize I do do some of these things, and would like to change that. But using it like it’s some sort of gospel or as a way to describe someone’s character in an absolute way is definitely taking it too far.

[@maciejrzepczyk6562]

I spoke with a Psychology Doctor (title) at my university. He said that with modern findings, the MBTI personality test is both academically floored, and mathematically (if you look at statistics) floored. Firstly, everyone has in them minimal parts of other personality types present at the same time. Depending on the stimulus, even those can be triggered. Secondly, "personality", according to him, is a ratio and proportion of four drives (see Dr. Adam Crizzle) and even similar people will be different. Finally, everyone is quite different, and to reduce millions of people to a couple of categories is mathematically inprecise and ignorant.

[@Herrkaminkx]

I could literally not fully understand or misinterpret the questions on these tests and get a "wrong" mbti code, and that all of a sudden means other people/companies perceive or view me differently or put me in a different box? Absolutely insane to me. I'm not gonna go and learn 16 different word combos for people to describe themselves as, AND their meaning. People are people with their own unique personalities, not word codes.

[@greenpichon8482]

THIS PLUUUS what if I took it when I was a teen and then I grow up and my values and views on things shift? What if they label me as extroverted but I'm just a introvert that knows how to socialize or vice versa. Likeee there are so many flaws to the system but ppl are blinded by flattery.

[@silasjude662]

Exactly! One of the biggest problems with these sorts of tests is that they aren’t even replicable in the same person. I took the mbti a couple years ago and got intp, then again a year or so later and got istj. I don’t think my personality completely shifted in that time, just my own perception of it which was reflected in how I answered the questions

[@Nemausos]

​@@silasjude662 What you are saying is that you understand questions wrong, not that the test is. I test like twice a year for 7 years and never moved away from INTJ even a single time.

[@wren_.]

@@Nemausos or you changed as a person, that could also happen. I took the test a couple years back and I got introverted (forget which one), but I took the test again recently, after becoming more social and got ENTP

[@MikaKahdarmon]

​@@Nemausos It is the test. It has a bad reliability across the bord. That's one of the reasons it's considered unuseful. And your just one person and so your experience would be anecdotal evidence at best. But doing the test so often also makes it a routine for you. Obviously it is easier to get the same results, escpecially if you like your type. So, as a fellow logical thinking INT-Type, I can tell you that it's not any more scientific than zodiac signs. But since I'm a Gemini you shouldn't take my word for it, but just read the Wikipedia page or some scientific papers about it. Non of them have a favorable view on the mbti.

[@SpaceTheAge]

Confirmation bias is real. Had a friend's sister ask my star sign, when I replied they said, "oh I don't get along well with capricorns". Maybe telling someone you don't know them and don't like them isn't the best way to introduce yourself.

[@nestharus]

If someone asked for mine I wouldn't answer and cut off contact /shrug

[@keithparker1346]

Who on earth does get along with Capricorns?

[@starliner2498]

@@keithparker1346 That's true im more of a wheat guy myself

[@amethystdream8251]

Dude as an astrologer, idk why the money and attention in astrology has been going more to this. Astrology can get very philosophical, it's more about a relationship to life, idk why people have been preferring these generalizations, and have been taking incompatability so personally. Also many in the astrology field have been trying to use astrology to justify avoiding systemic change and it frustrates me so.

[@piotrmalewski8178]

@@amethystdream8251 Dude, before getting to how position of stars would affect anyone outside their star-navigation skills, astrology can't even get their star position right and still refers to how the sky looked centuries ago.

[@joelman1989]

My personality type is IDGAF

[@btarczy5067]

IBGHTP 7x5^6 then, I see. You’re fired.

[@liltwilightstar]

Epik High cooked with that line 🔥

[@boujounomono]

So....Scorpio?

[@Imtoobusyslayingrn111]

ify

[@8c_run_qil1_co_ncob_z]

Ummmm... uhhh... Introvert, determined, good, admirable, and fun?

[@seth-leong-scott3474]

I actually like mbti because it's fun, I look at aesthetics and listen to playlists based on diff mbti types. It also makes for an interesting conversation starter. But where "compatibility" and job opportunities are concerned is where I draw the line.

[@stefany6097]

They need to learn about cognitive functions.

[@Srijakonduru9]

same

[@seth-leong-scott3474]

@@stefany6097agreed. Welp, most people stop at the free test by 16p and don’t bother to research further. 16p is fine as a fun one-off personality test but if someone is actually trying to discover their personality they should research more and discover that mbti is more than these 4 letter combis

[@renren47618]

I never knew that people made MBTI types playlist lol I need to check this shit out.

[@newname3718]

The reason I follow mbti is for the memes 😂

[@ilovesweets2303]

Being a psychology student, i often find these video essays about the effect of the same phenomenon on different cultures :3

[@L17_8]

Jesus loves you ❤️Please turn to him and repent and receive Salvation before it's too late. The end times written about in the Bible are already happening in the world. Jesus is the son of God and he died for our sins on the cross and God raised him from the dead on the third day. Jesus is waiting for you with open arms but time is running out. Please repent and turn to him before it is too late. Accept Jesus into your heart and invite him to be Lord and saviour of your life and confess and believe that Jesus is Lord, that he died for your sins on the cross and that God raised him from the dead. Confess that you are a sinner in need of God's Grace and ask God to forgive you for all your sins through Jesus. Jesus loves you. Nothing can compare to how he loves you. When he hung on that cross, he thought of you. As they tore open his back, he thought of your prayer time with him. As the thorns dug into his head, he thought of you spending time in the word of God. As the spears went into his side, he imagined embracing you in heaven.

[@NShomebase]

You find them ":3" ?

[@CatgirlExplise6039]

@@NShomebase i find this replay .w.

[@McNugge.]

":3" .........

[@CatgirlExplise6039]

@@McNugge. :3

[@bloosea123]

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[@piotrmalewski8178]

Dear applicant. The random number generator has excluded your CV from further processing.

[@fangjiunnewe3634]

Boy did they go all in on the blood types in korea too, i remember interviews during variety shows back in the day when they would ask about blood types, all the idol profiles would list blood tyoes and horoscopes when nowadays its only the mbti. This lasted well into the mid 2010s, when groups like BLady (girl group of all B types) and B1A4 (5 member boy group, have a guess at their blood types) were debuting. Fun fact, singapore was in on the mbti since the late aughts, because I took my test in school there. They literally had us do it to put us into groups for group projects, to "align personalities and gather diverse strengths". It was wild. And don't get me started on the enneagrams that the US has going on

[@SwitchMaxFX]

American here. Yea we got our own "thing" going on too, lol.

[@jahanb2002]

Omfg that's what B1A4 stands for?? I thought it was just a random way to name the group 😭

[@Th3Visitor]

Damn look i had a horoscope and mbti phase but i got over it in a year some people really need to take a break

[@vkskms]

new gens don't know how prominent blood types were! this is why i kinda like mbti because at least its a questionnaire and not totally arbitrary pseudoscience

[@yanzi8543]

And human design 🙈

[@okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

personality tests, zodiacs, and even tarot all serve the same sort of function for me of being a tool for reflection and a kind of meditation - but I always make sure to keep in mind that none of it is solid fact. When I was much younger I would cling to these kinds of things because I desperately wanted simple, clean-cut answers to myself and I think wanting to sort ourselves into little boxes is a very natural thing for young people to want to do. I just wish instead of things being seen as black and white ("thing bad" VS "thing good"), people would see it more of an issue of HOW it's used. One positive is something I spoke with my friend about recently about another mutual friend of ours - we've all known each other since we were young and our friend is naturally very shy but now has a profession where she needs to be much more extroverted. A few years ago she got really into crystals, tarot, zodiac stuff, etc - and while it's a little silly at times she really used embracing herself as being a leo to take traits of herself that already within the leo archetype and use those to push herself into being an over all more "leo" version of herself. She didn't completely change her personality, but she used the mindset "I'm a leo" to slowly grow into a more outgoing, confident version of herself that she wanted to be and she's struggling a lot less now. I only started learning about these things through her and while I don't believe it, Ive used star signs (and the concept of sun, venus, and rising signs all existing in one person) too to embrace parts of my personality I've struggled with and helped me adopt a mindset that different, clashing facets of myself can exist in harmony. But of course, if the beginning and end of your understanding of yourself and others are only these things and you see people as static instead of constantly changing and evolving, that's an extremely limiting and potentially dangerous view of humanity as a whole.

[@queenning28]

The queen is back👑

[@L17_8]

Jesus loves you ❤️Please turn to him and repent and receive Salvation before it's too late. The end times written about in the Bible are already happening in the world. Jesus is the son of God and he died for our sins on the cross and God raised him from the dead on the third day. Jesus is waiting for you with open arms but time is running out. Please repent and turn to him before it is too late. Accept Jesus into your heart and invite him to be Lord and saviour of your life and confess and believe that Jesus is Lord, that he died for your sins on the cross and that God raised him from the dead. Confess that you are a sinner in need of God's Grace and ask God to forgive you for all your sins through Jesus. Jesus loves you. Nothing can compare to how he loves you. When he hung on that cross, he thought of you. As they tore open his back, he thought of your prayer time with him. As the thorns dug into his head, he thought of you spending time in the word of God. As the spears went into his side, he imagined embracing you in heaven.

[@henrytep8884]

Just wait until Asia learns about attachment style. Myers Briggs is so 2000.

[@noonehere_kasut]

Attachment styles is more of a mental health thing - I don't think it'll take off in Asia lol Love languages maybe??

[@henrytep8884]

@@noonehere_kasutLove language is pseudo-science, which is probably why it is used by so many people, its new age astrology. Here's a tip on love language, learn to love wisely, you aren't pigeon hole to what the test tell you is your love language since it doesn't give magnitude or weight on each love language, just puts you in a category. You can actually embody the other love languages if you practice, this is the 4P of knowledge. Now as far as attachment style goes, attachment style is one of the life factors that literally affects your whole life outcome/perspective/personality. Attachment style has much stronger correlation than IQ on who you become, and that's saying alot. Saying its a mental health thing, what does that even mean? Isn't everything a mental health thing, or do we get philosophical about metaphysics, ontology and epistemology. But seeing how asian nation treat blood type, and how they lack heavily in learning from any social science or psychology in a meaningful way to fix their culture, I wouldn't be surprised if they would use love language over attachment style, even though scientifically attachment style is much more objectively rooted in empiricism than love language to measure the psyche.

[@noonehere_kasut]

@@henrytep8884 I was just trying to say that attachment theory is often used in the context of talking about mental health, developmental psychology and social science like you mentioned. Those are indeed not topics you'll find being widely discussed in most Asian countries, and your attachment style isn't exactly something you can casually discuss with friends - unlike MBTI/astrology/blood types. I agree with you on love languages. I think it'd be more popular in Asia (or anywhere else tbh) compared to something that actually requires you to think about how your "type" affects your close relationships and others around you, like attachment styles or parenting styles (Something that would probably benefit Asian communities too lol). I find the categories in love languages arbitrary - I don't think it was ever claimed to be grounded in science, but many people do seem to take it that way. Idk anyone would say they are a person who prefers "receiving gifts" over "quality time" with their partners lol. It's nevertheless still a fun quiz that people can bond over and maybe help them think about their personal preferences, more akin to the MBTI and such.

[@McNugge.]

​@@henrytep8884 How is love language pseudo science? What do you even mean by that?

[@henrytep8884]

@@McNugge. it’s a pseudoscience because it’s not based off anything and it essentializes the way people should embody love. What does that mean? It means instead of thinking that you have to love in the way a “love language” defines you as, it is better to just love wisely, or love in an agape manner. Love language creates needless category for love, it’s simplifies love in such a manner that it devolves the concept of love and how people should love into a process defined by the love language. It doesn’t even give people room to practice and participate in all forms of love, it just tells you that your love language is this and that’s who you are. It’s pseudoscience that doesn’t do anything to help people love better, or to love wisely, or to participate in love in all facets and manner that one can love.

[@yesiwillstealurwig6589]

my dad told me "the biggest and brightest companies don't give af about your mbti" lol

[@jarrodyuki7081]

yes they do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jonharrison3114]

@@jarrodyuki7081In Korea I guess but I don’t think the rest of the world does

[@augustuslunasol10thapostle]

@@jarrodyuki7081 yeah korea the hellscape that it is cares

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@augustuslunasol10thapostle Both Koreas are somehow equally dystopian for opposite reasons, I think it's genetic.

[@renren47618]

​@@MK_ULTRA420North Korea is 1984 and South Korea is Cyberpunk 2077 basically.

[@tiffyisnothere]

the type B hate in japan reminds me a lot of how people treat certain zodiac signs, especially geminis (my sign), due to the stereotypes attached to them. i remember getting heated about this often because i thought it was ridiculous and i even took it personally at one point (embarrassing, i know). now though i just think that it’s a weird way to try to read people before getting to know them because people who have the same sign (or blood type in this case) don’t act the same anyways

[@ikora]

I was hanging out with a few people who just moved from Japan and I was so curious why they kept bringing up the MBTI. Thank you for clarifying!

[@boopdoop2251]

There’s nothing wrong with personality tests to try to understand yourself or others better. Taking them too far, as with any tool, is going to be bad, of course. They certainly can’t tell you if someone is fit for a job or not.

[@YukaAkemi]

Zodiacs in the west are def just as intense, I’ve seen posts abt roommates listings saying they won’t accept applications for like say a gemini, there are certain negative and positive qualities already associated with certain zodiacs like “Pisces males are the worst”, or “i love libras I always get along with them” I don’t take zodiac seriously myself but I do have my preconceived notions about zodiacs already, I think it’s fun to play into zodiacs but never to actually use it as a serious markers of ones personality, some ppl however live and die by zodiacs

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Astrologists hate Pisces males because none of us care about astrology lol

[@piotrmalewski8178]

This means the people making these posts were plain dumb.

[@gh4939]

I think zodiacs are most fun AFTER you get to know a person. I thought I wouldn’t get along with Geminis, Leos, Scorpios, or Libras just by the description alone, but guess what signs the majority of my friends ended up having 😂

[@serenitysubs933]

These people don't even study astrology. They just know stereotypes based off of the main 4 signs. Astrology is much more complex and deeper than that

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@serenitysubs933 "Astrology is much more complex and deeper than that" Yeah it's called Astronomy, which is a real science.

[@alexpappalardo4112]

I find myself forgetting that this content creator doesn’t have a million plus subscribers while watching; fantastic content!

[@Tearearly]

mbti is also so unpredictable and changes with time! I took it once out of curiosity, and then again when a friend asked what it was and I’d forgotten. I got two different types. Imagine if the first time I’d gotten one that was “prohibited” for a job opportunity and the second time around it was one allowed😭

[@snowballeffect7812]

I think these tests fall into a broader human need to categorize (and thus simplify) things. They (categories/labels in general) can be useful when they're shown to be accurate, but taking labels of any kind as a be-all-end-all is always a mistake. I wish we could grasp the ideas of normal curves and intersectionality a bit more easily, but there's no denying the amount of time and energy saved by taking prejudiced shortcuts for 80% of the time, at least in the short term.

[@doujinflip]

Right, it's way simpler and more convincing for me to say I'm an INTJ-A, rather than (remembering then) describing my Big-5 as O82 C69 E25 A61 N28.

[@snowballeffect7812]

@@doujinflip even those are still categories. the real truth of who you are is fully is indescribable verbally (you may not even know yourself), so we consolidate that information into the most relevant key "features" someone else might be able to relate to.

[@pramitpratimdas1071]

I mean Newton's law still works for the majority of cases despite better laws superseding it. Mbti's uses might be much more limited though

[@snowballeffect7812]

@@pramitpratimdas1071 newton's laws work on non-relativistic speeds and masses lol. there' basically approximations of special and general relativity and are based on evidence. MBTI is based on whims and feelings. I'm not saying they're completely useless, but they're pretty close to it and should be treated as reliable as polygraph tests, which is to say, not reliable at all and just a bit of fun.

[@pramitpratimdas1071]

@@snowballeffect7812 I guess it wasn't the best analogy but MBTI when it was introduced was backed by experts, not a product of whims of random laypeople. Have to keep in mind that psychology isn't like the hard sciences. You are not going to find solid evidence proving x or y theory

[@jsouth5577]

back when I was really little I remember it was 'which of the four temperaments are you?'. I don't remember much but I specifically remember it was even supposed to reflect in the way you sat. I ended up in the choleric section at school for leadership but I didn't like the pressure so I switched my answers so I was phlegmatic. To this day, I still tend to sit with my legs stretched out in front of me because of that. Anyway, fascinating breakdown. I took the MB test out of curiosity myself a couple of years ago (it didn't care how I sat in a chair). I agree with you that tests like that help you do some inner study of yourself, figure out the details of who you are and what you like about yourself and want to nurture. What some people don't realize is - its a tool, not a cheat sheet. You should always be tweaking who you are to become a better person and it never hurts to have some tools to go digging around inside yourself to figure out why you react to certain things or feel certain ways so that you can decide if that's something you want to keep or change. Just flat paving over everything with 'that's my personality type so that's what I'll always be' is where it gets detrimental. For a talk about a personality test that isn't psychologically sound, this was really a very psychologically sound video. I love 'why things tick' and their influence on society and people. You were very clear in your explanations, very non-judgemental and yet clear about the dangers, and added a great sense of humor to boot. I've got a couple of friends I'm going to share this with. Also I once tripped over an armchair I knew was there and fell in a hotel lobby full of Japanese guests. As an adult. I even made a rather loud noise as I went down. So - we'll bear the shame of faulty feet together. It's what people with our personality types would do.

[@btarczy5067]

These videos are so good! Each one has been very informative and also funny despite the subject matter… Granted, personality tests are usually not *that* sinister in and of themselves but if one feels (or is) compelled to fit into that mold they definitely can be. edit: Okay, that blood type „theory“ is wild!

[@eksbocks9438]

I think the more important thing is: Are you guys able to get along? If the conversation is good. Then I don't think MBTI matters as much.

[@Atticus_Moore]

Its not good when people become obsessed with typology and tie everything they say or hear back to typology in place of psychology and this happens every time in all typology circles so its an over all net negative and should he abandonded

[@piotrmalewski8178]

A conversation may be good and then the other person becomes pain in the a... causing argument over petty things or without any clear reason at all.

[@weeeeeweeeeweee]

nah ppl get obsessed over it. if the only conversation u can participate into is mbti u need to find a new one lmao

[@edamamame4U]

I feel that Meyer-Briggs is quite inaccurate. I change a couple answers on the test depending on my mood and I change from an ENFP to an ENFJ and sometimes even an INFP. I think the BIG Five is used more frequently by therapists.

[@maelydelorme]

Yes, I'm INFJ on bad days and ENFP on good days, so weird 😂

[@doujinflip]

The traits are a range and not a binary switch, hence why you might flip when you're near the middle. Big-5 and HEXACO used in real psychology are usually seen as percentages like they're supposed to be.

[@ClubRipley]

​@@maelydelormeThen you can directly discard INFJ (in bad phases INFJs can rather be misconfused with INTJs, ENFPs is pretty far away from how INFJs internally function). In case you are using 16 Personalities as your test I think it's better you search a better one or read about cognitive functions

[@wenhanzhou5826]

The test comes with a percentage of how far you are on the scale of each letter. Most people are quite balanced, so it is definitely possible that some letters change depending on the mood.

[@Hanstra]

The thing is, personality _isn't_ solid. It's constantly changing, even if you don't notice it. All the test does is give you a hazy idea of what your mental state and self-image is like at a particular point in time. Take the test, wait a few days, maybe read a bunch of profoundly tragic novels, and then take the test again - you're not gonna get the same result as before.

[@MissesWitch]

This is such an obsession in Asia right now! It became an obsession in the West out of nowhere when I was doing it for fun for many years.. now.. Asia has taken it to a whole new level. I had friends from Asia stop being my friend when they heard I was an INFP.. and I don't put where I am anywhere! Only answer if I am asked!

[@heavenlysadist]

The West had a different outlook compared to Asia so ofc I don't blame them for saying mbti being biased and inaccurate, personality test are not meant to be realistic. The only one that is correct is OCEAN. I try that test twice, I got INTP at first until my last is INTJ. The mbti one... I have hate-love relationship with it. I love to look in all different perspective and opinions but seeing Koreans taking it too far kinda terrified me. One personality label in all work forces?? Human complexity is a whole another new level, I could tell psychology field in Korea is not their main thing at all Second hand embarrassment

[@piotrmalewski8178]

@@heavenlysadist Even if it's accurate, how can you predict what a person with specific result is going to do in a specific situation? It depends on their perception, judgement, state of knowledge and current motivation. Personality has little to do with it especially since most adults, especially those who are at least moderately succesful, have the ability to ignore their preferences and do what appears to be best based on their knowledge and how they see the problem they're facing. Whatever personality, a 100/100 people is going to run away from a poisonous snake, unless they fail to notice it's presence.

[@assecik]

thats scary im infp too and guess i wont tell it to anyone anymore

[@yanstein8464]

i took the test a while back, discussed it with my friends who also took it in a casual conversation, looked up which fictional characters shared my type and forgot about it i never thought of it as something serious, that affects work and relationship and i find this seriousness around it to be super silly, like it's just a funny personality test, it's like taking horoscopes seriously 😅

[@52andattitude48]

Since Aini asked, I’m an INTJ with a O positive blood type. Great video as always! :D

[@KY-xz9yb]

I dont even know what MBTI i am because two diff websites gives me diff results. And even for the questions, like : "Do you regularly make new friends?" I have to ponder to what degree do I consider someone a friend. And at that point, it's just unanswerable and I have to give a neutral answer because I cant properly give a correct answer.

[@jayjayvah]

Most people don’t know how it actually works. It’s not extrovert vs introvert etc. Search up cognitive functions in mbti

[@SoggycereaI]

Because these tests use the term "MBTI" while not being at all actually MBTI. As the reply above said, MBTI is based on cognitive functions. If it's something that interests you, a good place to start or just to see more accurate information, is searching up "Michael Caloz Cognitive Functions test" It's still a random internet test, but at least it knows what terms it's using and tries to explain them to you. Hopefully it satisfies you a bit more lol

[@NiruReghu]

Matsumoto Ryu after any minor inconvenience in his life: "Nah its cause I'm type B"

[@xrubyxlightx]

I've known about mbti for a while. From what i've learnt, it's better to take a cognitive functions test and avoid 16personalities, which is unfortunately more commonly known. Once you know your cognitive functions, you use them simply as a guide. It can be helpful when writing or understanding fictional characters

[@emilytchuu9876]

Nothing wrong with 16p. It is simple and great to start. If you have great introspection you will not be mistyped. My type never changed for many years even though I took it many times. People who are mistyped, answer the question with having their ideal self in mind or try to get that one type they want to get.

[@octopus8978]

@@emilytchuu9876I think people were saying that it was pushing out a lot of INFJs and wasn’t entirely accurate but idrk tbh

[@vtauoyctynwbrooylm6008]

@@emilytchuu9876 tbh i think 16p is at this point its own theory, its just that this theory uses the 'mbti' name and so does another one, it gets confusing for people just starting out

[@xrubyxlightx]

@@emilytchuu9876 I agree that it's a starting point. However, IIRC, a huge problem with 16p is that its questions were vague/didnt do much How one thinks. Ex: "I am never late to appointments" vs "I regularly plan out my day and stick to the plan"

[@Lilith_RomoXD]

MBTI are used in a lot of job applications without people realizing too, its used to essentially filter out the "undesirables"( People with disabilities, introverts, etc etc.) so businesses can say they aren't being discriminatory

[@NightshadeGoddess]

No, because I was in Korea and went clubbing and a guy approached me and asked what my mbti was. I told him I don't know and he looked at me like I was the insane one, when he talked about personality types in a crowded club 😂

[@zuraondembeats540]

2:29 using the ISTJ instrumental to introduce the impact of MBTI in South Korea is just so good

[@Niklas-u5v5m]

Really interesting again. 90% of the Chinese people I interact with have their MBTI displayed on their profile, I was wondering about it. About the tests themselves, i think they can tell oneself quite a bit, as long as you dig deeper after taking the test. Just as you said. The one company that asked about the strengths and weaknesses of one's MBTI... honestly I think it is a very smart interview question. They are not asking for specific types to apply, they are asking for introspection. Everybody can bring something to the table in a company, and knowing where one needs help and where one can take the lead is a huge boon. Thanks!

[@DexTag]

As a note and saying that early on at 1:46, I got asked to take that personality test by a friend and while the result usually stayed similar (across taking different tests, with usually 1 letter changing), the categorizing didn't make any sense. As in, you could answer all questions differently, depending on what context you apply them to. And I noticed I always answered based on the context most important to me, but that's not the context that happens the most. When I read through the description I thought "Oh, that sounds actually quite fitting, I mean a bunch is also unfitting but it's a wide type and spectrum, so can't expect all to be the same". Then I read over the other types and thought exactly the same thing, about almost all of them. Which then reminded me of what horoscopes do, it's exactly the same thing: fan it out wide enough while keeping it as vague as possible, so people can fill the lack of precision and information with their own experiences and feelings. Which...makes it rather pointless. For example for work and when I approach tasks, I am very straight forward, planned out and dedicated, but when I interact with other people, mindsets, opinions, views and generally speaking new experiences/options, I like to listen to them and try to understand how they came to be, or for new experiences to just try them out to see if I really like/dislike them - or for stuff I know I liked/disliked to try them out again to see if something changed. That's kind of the opposite of being planned out and straight forward, as in to avoid getting stuck on what I am used to I'd rather experience something spontaneously as it makes it easier to experience something differently.

[@Lacewise]

I have no idea what my type is. I’ve definitely taken the quiz before but… who knows? One time, several years ago, I saw a tumblr post that said, “the truth is people get a little weird when they have too much social interaction and when they have too little social interaction, and that range is different for everyone” and then I stopped thinking about ‘personality’ as something that could be so easily defined.

[@vowgallant4049]

I'll never forget when I heard someone describe MBTI as "Horoscopes for middle managers."

[@naruske97]

This really feels dystopian. Humans are way more flexible than what some people give us credit for. Starting for a simple question: what happens if I am ambivert? Also, just because you are introverted it does not mean you are socially inept lmao. This companies are over reacting Is in human nature to find fun assigning people to a group according with their personality (zodiac, Hogwarts houses, Percy Jackson's cabins, etc) but there is a limit to everything

[@epruno3583]

Imagine being comfortable with being told who you are and acting the part, because it is simpler and it saves time. Being authentic is hard sometimes and it takes practice to become self confident doing so, but boy it is worth it. Honesty is a part of freedom in ny book.

[@anthonyl47]

I love your little transitions, theyre so nice

[@kangaroo2191]

I remember watching asian dramas with my mom as a kid and seeing a kdrama teaser focused on blood type B. Specifically hating people with B type blood. The teaser was the female lead saying that she will never fall for blood type B for all the reasons discussed in the video. Since I was a kid, I was so scared to find out my blood type because I didn't want to be type B and be hated just for having that blood type.

[@Emilia089]

MBTI is a skewed and flawed psychological measurement it was mentioned during my collegiate years as somewhat a shitty tool since it did not meet the 3 criterias (reliability validity verifiability). This phenomena where east asia specifically S.Kores is obssessed with knowing their types is called the barnum effect where vague descriptions are deemed true regardless of its value. In general this leads to a false perception on people about personality. What I have learned in psychology is that personality is like jelly or ditto from pokemon. It varies depending through nature and nurture.

[@ww_artemis]

MBTI is not supposed to describe a person entirely, it should be seen as a general pattern of preferred behaviours a person usually has. And if you delve a bit more into it, all 16 personalities do have flaws, weaknesses, very annoying cons, and are clearly distinct from one another, so I don't believe it solely relies on Barnum effect.

[@Name..........]

​@ww_artemis its a textbook pseudo science my guy. They are intentionally broad the same way horoscopes are so they pretty much fit everyone, what youll notice is depending on the day who you're hanging out with youll express and different parts of your personality. Which is why these tests are like a horoscope, not too mention that through out your life depending on your experiences your personality changes. This is coming from someone thats taken like 4 or 5 psychology courses and had planed on getting a major psychology.

[@ww_artemis]

@@Name.......... The 16 personality website and the "test" is trash yep, they have things to sell so it's more of a marketing tool, but the theory behind it is really interesting though it should rather be seen as an analysis tool that presents people in a particular lens, not boxes in which you should shove every person.

[@Rocksolidettin]

You check out the big 5 model?

[@McNugge.]

Demanding reliability for a personality test is, in itself, a degenerate thing to begin with. Personality changes over time, more or less. That's like saying depression scaling tests are unreliable because you may recover over time..... DUH just take it again?😂

[@Carnables]

I used to think a certain personality test was 100% accurate and used it to try to understand myself and others. I recently learned that I am autistic and have since realized it was a tool I could use in place of what others seem to do naturally. I was very defensive of it for that reason. If used as a tool for SELF reflection it can have some use. But to see it used on such a wide scale with real consequences is horrifying. Great video, love everything you do.

[@hhbddjstar]

I'm gonna say this, and it'll upset a lot of people. The personality test which the majority of people used is the Myers-Briggs, or based on it, is total bs. The test was not scientific-based at all nor the people invented it had any background in science. Psychologist Carl Jung was the first person to propose that people could be divided into 8 types, but later he discarded it deeming that humans are complex creatures and cannot be defined by any stereotype; plus the 8 types were based on him GUESSING. There was no data or controlled experiment involved. Later, mystery novelist and her mother Myers-Briggs found Jung's theory, and came up with their own shit, while adding extra personalities into it to spice things up (8 types to 16). In the beginning, the Myers-Briggs test was something they would use at party for fun, but it became popular in high society, and the rest is history. People are complex. You can be both extrovert and introvert at the same time (maybe not equal amount). For example, a jock football player would be the dominant extrovert in a football game, but throw the same guy into a Hearthstone tournament, and he became the idiot loser of the pack; and the reverse is true for a card game player. Some days you wanna go out and talk to people, and some days you hate everyone. Everyone is an exception to the rule. For these personality tests to say you are one type, and that's it is just plain stupid lol.

[@Donnerwamp]

Yes, as soon as you look into how, why and by whom the test was created, it's clear that the MBTI is just as bogus as homeopathy, essential oils anf chiropractors.

[@Andy-lr6cc]

This!!!!

[@Th3Visitor]

I remember once taking the test, i was 51% introverted 49% extroverted just a 1% difference actually i don't even think there was a difference but the test has to provide some result and i know people would just totally dismiss that 49% 😂

[@nehalilisays]

Theoretically everything is a spectrum. But if you compare MBTI with Big5/OCEAN which is like ✨the✨ standard in psychology right now then you can see some similarities/overlap. The biggest one being extraversion/introversion. So saying that it's like astrology or homeopathy is like comparing medicinal tea to globules. The accuracy and precision of psychology and medicine is a spectrum, too.

[@epiccrusadr8583]

Myers briggs isnt perfect but it isn't total bullshit if you research deeper about cognitive functions it is actually a logical system unfortunately most people dont care to research in depth about that stuff

[@ryydii]

It is definitely true that you shouldn't put too much weight on the MBTI. It is especially worrying, if e.g., businesses start declining applicants based on their MBTI. Personally I've found MBTI to be a useful framework for analysing your own thinking patterns. While it can be considered to be pseudoscience, it's also interesting to observe that e.g., an INFP is extremely unlikely to mistype as an ESTJ, if they answer the questions anywhere close to truth. It's an useful tool that can be considered, if you're having a hard time understanding the thinking patterns of say your boss. Ask them their type, if it's counter to yours - it'll be easier to understand why their logic doesn't follow yours. For example if they rely more on hard logic, while you're a feeler, you might want to present your ideas in a way that comes off more as logic based rather than feeling. tldr: mbti can be a useful tool, if not taken too seriously and more as a guideline'ish thingy

[@BurakBuu]

Your videos are always so well researched and great to listen to! Love these longer videos

[@Reverse_Cowgirl-cat]

I think a lot of people get super into it because of Jung's theory on the cognitive functions. It's really interesting. Myers Brigs just monetized his ideas to make types and tests.

[@DreamUN]

True ☹️ do you have the pdb app?

[@theresalwaysbalder7441]

Mbti became bigger and gained more interest during the pandemic. During this time we were all mostly isolated and didn't have much human contact and alot of us lost touch of reality. It was hard to define ourselves in such a time as we rarely recieved validation or dislike regarding our traits nor met people who were different from us and in such a time the simple four letter system did give us security regarding ourselves despite it's rather shallow nature

[@Kevin-ex9vr]

bro giving these kind of tools to this kind of societies are terrifying (its already a little bit of a prob for western, but for eastern... omg). I once worked in a factory in japan that was applying these tests to the employees and the promotions/demotions/salary rise had started to be based using MBTI as rule. scary af.

[@donnatello3906]

Always amazes me how much weight is put into pseudoscience even in the modern world.

[@demo2823]

Phlobotomy made a comeback too. People be reading their noses to define their personality. It's because Gen Z has a severe identity crisis in the face of the internet where there is always an Asian better than you.

[@comicsans3537]

Uhhhh phrenology? Phlobotomy is blood drawing lololol ​@@demo2823

[@bigredracecar27]

Look at acupuncture, almost nothing about it is "scientific" yet the majority of people report positive effects from it. How your psyche works with your physical body is weird

[@LoneWolfInsane]

Isnt acupunkture suposed cut off bloodflow.

[@wenhanzhou5826]

Pseudoscience is convenient, it is easy to absorb for most people. Science is typically difficult and people in general do not like to do difficult stuff.

[@professionalloser2730]

I don't believe MBTI to be a necessarily bad system. Personalities are individualized and grow overtime based on our experiences in life. One thing that many users of MBTI forget which causes the most issue is that they believe a certain personality type is a set category, and if they even have a few traits which do not align with the description of the personality type then they're simply not that type. That is not how MBTI works, MBTI is a broad spectrum for categorising the general thinking patterns of people. It does not define every single aspect of your identity and your life but it gives a good and broad overview of who you are. When you forget that MBTI is a spectrum and not a set category then that's when the system fails, as not everyone can be successfully categorised that way. (I'm ENTP btw)

[@yayariru]

Living in Japan, can confirm people ask about blood type often. It won't happen with every person you meet, but it will happen enough to make you raise an eyebrow at why they're asking. But its interesting to note that they don't actually care whether the type is negative or positive. Which is strange because that's a pretty important bit of info if you're getting a blood transfusion. Also, recently a lot of people talk about this personality test in Japan as well. Seems like its starting to catch on.

[@uero-ro]

One thing I really appreciate about your videos is that humor isn't used to slap me in the face every 15 seconds over and over again. You focus on the topics with a focused and brisk pace, which makes the occasional joke here or there more surprising for comedic effect.

[@candicraveingcloude2822]

I like the Big 5 or OCEAN/CANOE for personality instead. It's a spectrum rather than a dichotomy and explains the nuance. It also explains the dynamics between traits of my personality. There are also MBTI tests that will show the percentage of each trait and I like those better than most MBTI tests for the same reason I like big five. Shows that it's more than just those 4 letters but the dynamics between them and how they interact with each other based on situations.

[@throstlewanion]

If you like the big 5, I’d recommend you take a look at HEXACO. It’s an update of the big 5 spectrum which introduces honesty/agreeableness as an additional axis. Either way any model with a unimodal spectrum is much better than MBTI’s bimodal spectrum

[@doujinflip]

Ideally the traits should always be presented as a spectrum. Big-5 and HEXACO (basically Big-5 + honesty/humility) do a good job of showing the strength percentages since they're not defined with category results like MBTI does.

[@szaszm_]

Is the Big 5 still considered scientific? I'm not into psychology, but I heard the area is in a replication crisis, with most publications failing reproduction attempts.

[@Th3Visitor]

Its the Same thing with the personality test plus all mbti have percentages idk what you're talking about you could literally be 50-50 with all but the test wont show you that they might show you 51-49 just a 1% difference but people will still judge you for that *1*

[@nehalilisays]

How does the Big5 explain the dynamics between the 5 factors? I thought the factors being seen as independent from each other and not having a theoretical framework to explain them are viewed as major flaws of this "theory".

[@solarmoth4628]

My friend forced me to take an MBTI test online once so I’m an INTP, I’m type B too. MBTI was all over tumblr when I was growing and INFJs loved being “rare”. I have a psychology degree. I also took a class on personality theory. I think these tests are interesting but not infallible. Of course all the tests should be valid and reliable when given by a qualified person. I think in some cases like finding roommates it could work well but trying to fill a job or a partner should require more contact beyond a personality test. I remember the blood test typing personality tests. Growing up watch Korean variety shows, they would always blame being a little weird on being AB😭.

[@jismeraiverhoeven]

Except the myer briggs test will never be reliable even when given by a qualified person, mostly because the test itself was never made by a qualified person. Other personality tests are far more reliable

[@mooniebaby7227]

Aini, here in my country South Africa does that too. I'm an ISTJ...the #1 MBTI that majority of companies, elite universities & scholarships refuse to employ & fund in my country. They believe that ISTJ individuals are too strong-willed, crave justice & hate the patriarchal capitalist system & yearn to dismantle it! 😂😂😂

[@kwoltekublai3337]

Sounds like they are right tbh

[@divine6104]

Lmao, that's oddly specific. What's considered favourable?

[@mooniebaby7227]

@@divine6104 it's INFJ or ESPF

[@demo2823]

So THAT'S why nobody's been picking up my resume...

[@mooniebaby7227]

@@demo2823 yep

[@laonagrouchini]

i remember taking an HR course and my professor hated MBTI tests because it has little to no correlation with how you do at your job

[@minheek5800]

Another great commentary, Aini

[@hoperissa4253]

It doesnt limit to East Asia. SEA country also facing his issues the same with beauty priviledge. I have known a hr loudly mention that she would never recruit or even bet an eye on introverts. We also take mbti test during university. This is why we mostly lie in resume and test. Our obsession in learning mbti is to save us rather than learning ourself.

[@pokerface7973]

When I first found MBTI it somehow helped me to ease my anxiety, mainly because I was constantly struggling with the feeling of constant “alienation” and belief “everything i do and I am - is bad, being myself- bad, trying to conform- bad, I’m bad by definition” and gave me the feeling of “I’m just ME, and that’s perfectly okay”…ironically…it probably gave me that feeling because of flattery 😂 At first I idealized mbti a bit, but then I accepted that its just a SLIGHTLY better version of astrology(“at least they ask questions instead of labeling you for your birth date”), and that it could AT BEST give you a rough blurry “perception” of someone’s personality…at the specific period of time…MAYBE Now I just use mbti for fun, for memes…and for helping me feel slightly better about myself 😅 Also it might be fun to use test with your friend so that they could try answering questions while commenting and explaining their choices, which could actually potentially help you know more about them…and maybe laugh at some questions, like “What the hell does it even mean?! How the hell am I supposed to know?” etc

[@jawleene8806]

MBTI is so funny to me, because I have, out of pure curiosity, taken it a few times. And every time I take it, it gives me a different personality. The only thing that pretty much stays the same is my introvertedness. XD

[@carlospomares3225]

If you put in different answers, it's going to give you the different results

[@carlospomares3225]

It's one thing to prefer a type of person or personality over another depending on what the work is. It's another thing to activativly discriminate based on that. It's not the same thing as experience and skills, which are the only things an employer should discriminate based on.

[@Reve-to-the-V]

I love the use of NCT Dream ISTJ. Little details like this make me enjoy your videos.

[@chaeripie888]

I've been mbti typology/mbti for 6 years. The main issue is that it doesn't define you at work. Another issue is that most people keep using bad quizzes / websites such as 16personality and truity instead of actually using the cognitive functions to judge.

[@lilac624]

It can define you at work by knowing your MBTI.

[@weeeeeweeeeweee]

mbti typology🤣🤣🤣

[@aragon1953]

Great video! Just a comment, 13:26, Karl Landsteiner was Austrian. Like the TShirts say, "no kangaroos in Austria".

[@brodymundy4875]

whoa i remember an mbti fad being a thing on tumblr like 10 years ago wild that its back

[@ashleyrichardson3143]

I honestly love mbti, but people need to realise that it’s based on percentages, so if you get a percentage that’s based on the middle then it means you have traits of both letters in a few cases

[@Phyrexianfloydrosestring-kw1rz]

Over just 2 years of taking these tests every 6 months I have gone from ENTP to INTP to ENTJ to INTJ. Some people think that stuff like this or astrology is something you can define yourself with forever. These people will blame their shortcomings on just how they were born instead of trying to fix them. In truth you can fix almost all of your shortcomings with hard work especially if you are at least a little bit financially stable and in a physically safe environment.

[@stefany6097]

Cognitive functions? At least it can help to figure you out.

[@gianinnakarla]

do not take tests, they rely on stereotype only, MBTI is NOT a personality test, it is about cognitive functions

[@BillionairesArentYourFriends]

I thought the MBTI test for years was really cool (obviously, teenage years) and found it enjoyable to brag I was an ENTJ or an ENTP and talk to such people. Yet I didn't think it was suspicious I didn't actually have accurate test results. Shouldn't it only be one? Fast forward a few years, and I tested 100% opposite. I had 4 completely different letters. Suddenly I was an introvert (I'm not at all) and a feeler over a thinker by a long shot (but I do either or depending on the situation). Until situations stop existing and we all come to a halt in place until the universe ends, it's safe to say the test will always be incredibly inaccurate. God, I am modified of my teen years. I don't even comprehend how I was able to find some sort of social group using a rigid structure of personality identifications as if they define you.

[@chjikou]

i think mbti is a fun thing, but sometimes ppl take it too far ☠️

[@weeeeeweeeeweee]

its has taken over chinese psychology😅 my sister is obsessed with it and called me stubborn for hating it

[@junn679]

i trolled my friends when they were asking about my mbti type, "never heard of it, is it a new horoscope or something? oh its personality type, let me try it" and proceed to choose the answer opposite of what described me, read it and proclaim it is mind blowing really spot on about describing about me

[@heavenlysadist]

The fact that Koreans take it so far baffled me and here's me be like: "wtf?! No personality type shall be treated as superior than the other, it's immature and childish at the same time!" I get it they're quite the strong enthusiast but never, *EVER,* use mbti in workforce situation, reality does not work there. Every mbti types you will see on the screen are not your only personality, I was there before and I got mistyped plenty times. The first common mistyped I got was ISFJ, thinking I'm a loyal person but nope. I took the test once more and I got INFJ. Kinda accurate until someone on PDB genuinely helped me on how to typed myself properly, they even question whether I'm still a INFJ or not. After what it feels like 2 years later (I got into mbti when I was around 15 years old), I finally got my real answers and instead of ISFJ, I am born natural INTJ. Not in the most stereotypical sense but rather, a mixture of INTJ and INFJ at the same time. I also took enneagram test as well but I didn't participate the actual test so I mostly research, research and research non-stop. Same thing with other types, although I'm still having trouble with my socioconics (idk how to spell it I'm sorry), attitudinal and so on Those that typed istj, intj, intp and istp, I just wonder for the koreans, are they being genuinely or typed mistakenly? It hurts to see many young Koreans glorify personality over human's psychology, there is no such as simple characterization, it hurts my inner soul of questioning everything. No human being can have the simplest personality, personality changes within you and your mental being, there is no existence as *ONE* label that stuck on your big forehead. Personalities can be overlapped, sometimes mbti personality types can flipped over in stress and enneagram? I am 5w4 and 7 is my stress. 8 fix is my dominant, anger is frequent episodes I have been dealing with since childhood. Being an INTJ 5w4 is no easy feat. Just seeing young impressionable Koreans terrified me if they try to romanticize my tritype, imagine sympathizing a villain who couldn't change themselves for the better just because they're a seductive demon who looked ten times handsome/beautiful than you- And I am basically stuck in that dilemma. Some personality traits won't be able to change. As I said before, enneagram and tritype can't change except for mbti. Enneagram is your core trauma and tritype is your emotional stacking state of yourself, hence 5+8 is my dominant. I'm not quite sure about Korean's mbti test but sooner or later, I could already tell they will worship everything

[@peterwong2235]

I'm ENJF, Type O- , Gemini I really enjoy your videos and your rationales on how things work in our world. Your analysis is thought provoking, filled with complexity that you articulate well. Keep it up. I look forward to your next release

[@joshuabalmin6862]

I watch way too many video essays, and I can say confidently that this video was a 10/10. Very good job.

[@Henry258654]

INTJ here That was great video, I always wanted to learn about that "blood type personality" thing in Japan and the gags were really funny I also loved the Snorlax in the background 😝

[@jianaenthusiast]

I don’t know my MBTI and I’m scared that one day someone is gonna be like “oh btw what’s ur MBTI?” and I’m just gonna stand there awkwardly

[@shinnyshinshin6038]

Many people are also mistyped because the actual MBTI model includes cognitive functions - which does not reflect in the 16 personality test. The test contains really stupid questions too. Personally, I think there is some truth to MBTI, but there are still many factor and attributes that are not directly related to your MBTI

[@Lanie-h5c]

i envy korean for having mbti trend. for me its positive cause it shows that people have different personalities and it's normal. unlike in ph people really want to have this certain extrovert personality and i remember someone literally tells people why im shy and don't talk like it's wrong to be me. And the funny fact is he never really try to talk to me amd i remember approaching him and ask questions before. like what's wrong if i don't talk all the time. then i have enough i teied to talk to him amd ask already why im shy. then i answer then i answer do you want me to talk even I don't have anything to say? then i tell people can have different personalities too. then he was silenced then my co-workers already there. him commenting about my personality is so rude to me. like he want me to change. i was shattered that even i tried to be the most extrovert possibly i can in that job i thought im doing good for hiding my introvert tendencies. i still get a comment like that. even i tried to talk and be friends to people. but i realized trying to change will just hurt me. no matter what i do i still look introvert. so i just need to embrace it.

[@miceeater69420]

as a blood type o i can confirm i took over several states in the continent of oceania and everyone fears me

[@ObviouslyMich]

Been to Asia recently. This is very true. I had to take the test myself, landed on ENTJ-A. Never heard of it before but it represents me well enough so I dunno.

[@harrison6082]

It's crazy how many people don't know how to answer "Who am I?". They don't have an identity yet. Also, the Internet can really throw gasoline on the identity question as well

[@moonaestheticly8597]

I met a Korean transfer student at my uni recently, we were in a pub cral group and the first things she asked everyone in this 7 person group were: - Name - Age - MBTI - Blood type and then she asked where in the UK we were from. No one knew the answer to MBTI and only a couple of us knew our blood type. She was shocked