Having a Mean Old Dog

[@MaleBlackExpat]

I've seen dogs lunge over fences my entire life. So it is definitely possible. The real issue is Jimmy needs to grow up and learn to speak up for himself instead leaving it to mom.

[@djello_mello4845]

I literally saw this today tbh they should try to make areas way more secure

[@awakenyewhosleeprealityisn4860]

I feel bad for the young man. He’s got his mom asking his kid brother to lie and the dog owner telling lies. And we expect our young people to grow up with a moral compass!

[@marleonetti7]

i guess the judge never saw a pitbull jump before . if a fence is less than 5 or 6 feet tall then a pitbull can actually jump 4 or 5 feet high and move its head forward OVER the fence and bite . there are videos that u can search and see how high pitbulls can jump . the fence was too short to contain a pitbull and even if a person leans their head a little over a fence that is not considered trespassing so i think the defendant should have won .

[@vasylchernovskyi8260]

@@marleonetti7 Jumping over the fence is one thing, but how would the dog jump bite and then have enought momentum to land back in the yard.

[@marleonetti7]

@@vasylchernovskyi8260 no momentum is needed to land back into the yard , gravity takes care of that , if the dog simply lunges its head forward to take a bite , then the rest of the dog's body will pull it back down to the ground after it bites the target .

[@starry75]

Was absolutely not expecting that to be her voice 😂 whiskey and cigarettes haven’t been nice to her!

[@shanewinchester8466]

I thought the exact same thing. Good thing I'm male cause it's shot time then cigarette 😜

[@SWEETDEE007]

I think she sounds hot lol

[@kaybryan7530]

😬wow @@SWEETDEE007

[@dellahicks7231]

We had an attorney friend tell us many years ago, to ditch the 'Beware Of Dog' signs and replace them with 'No Trespassing'. Reason being? If Heaven forbid our dog (Who was a gentle old soul, the sign was more of a deterrent) was to bite someone, and it was litigated, having the 'Beware Of' sign was an admittance we knew our dog would bite. If you warn people not to trespass and they are bitten, that's on them! Of course laws vary from country to country, even province to province where I live in Canada.

[@JamieM470]

Never thought of it like that, but it sounds like very sensible advice.

[@marleonetti7]

ok i just watched this again and this verdict is even WORSE than i thought . the plaintiff walks into an open gate right behind his father when all of the sudden a LOOSE pitbull goes toward him so he backs up toward the open gate to the sidewalk and thats when the pitbull jumps up and bites him . wtf is the judge talking about him leaning over the fence for when u cannot even lean over while u are backing away from an effing pitbull . and why did the lady have a LOOSE pitbull when they knew people would be coming onto the property ? and how can the judge miss all these important details ? this is one of her worst verdicts ever .

[@r1verman]

@@marleonetti7 watch it again. The boy backed out and the father closed the gate leaving his son on the outside while he went to knock on the door.

[@marleonetti7]

@@r1verman so .. and ? that doesnt really change anything ,

[@MotherofDragons937]

My daughter is a paralegal for a personal injury law firm and you are absolutely correct! Prior knowledge of the dogs aggression could cause a problem when the dog attacks someone.

[@janicester]

Mom is the aggressive one making her son come to court against a family friend who is also on his deathbed. DISGUSTING! No wonder his father wanted no part of this BS.

[@southernzen365]

That was a good call by the judge. The kids dad didn't want any part of this. Something more with this group

[@texasmadehoney1523]

The men are friends that's why they didn't get involved. No conspiracy or scandal. It's simple really.

[@JayJay-me8zk]

​@texasmadehoney1523 my son gets bit in the face by my friend's dog.... I'm getting involved....my friend be damned

[@aechawk]

I think the judge means, if the guy was 1.5 feet away from a tall fence, that in order for the dog to reach him, it would have either landed on top of the fence or jumped completely over. Neither of those scenarios were mentioned. They said that it bit him but was still in the yard. I don’t think it is a matter of how high the dog could jump, I think it is the fence and the guys distance that makes the scenarios mentioned implausible. Even if he was closer to the fence, the dog’s neck would have caught on the fence to reach him. The way it was described was not plausible.

[@ElLiSe..]

Exactly, it’s more likely he push his head over n the dog snapped

[@kycutecool5891]

Yes!

[@Aceofwolves]

EXACTLY....if the dog did do that jump the dog would have ended up in the street.... Moral of the story..... Don't lean over a fence and don't trespass which is what he did

[@elvickRULES]

I doubt he was a foot away but this can happen for sure

[@M88-z5t]

This!! Everyone saying the dog can jump. Of course. But if the dog jumped and Jimmy was 1.5 ft away. The dog would have landed on the fence or on the sidewalk or on Jimmy. Not back in the yard

[@manthony777]

Jimmy is very lucky. He could have lost part of his face, but the dog was contained in his own yard. I hope the friendship doesn't end over this.

[@marleonetti7]

i guess the judge never saw a pitbull jump before . if a fence is less than 5 or 6 feet tall then a pitbull can actually jump 4 or 5 feet high and move its head forward OVER the fence and bite . there are videos that u can search and see how high pitbulls can jump . the fence was too short to contain a pitbull and even if a person leans their head a little over a fence that is not considered trespassing so i think the defendant should have won .

[@payableondeath9091]

Dude is slow and I hope they stop being friends with these fools

[@manthony777]

@@payableondeath9091 , Be nice. We can't take you anywhere.

[@payableondeath9091]

@@manthony777more like he couldn't take his son nowhere 😂as for me nah nice guys finish last💀 You know damn well dude's Dad is trying to find a new family since his son a fool

[@manthony777]

@@payableondeath9091 , 😭😭😭😭😢😢😢

[@justbusiness01]

I feel bad for young man because his dad is a coward and cares more about his friendship with an old neighbor than being a witness for his son.

[@Bx10473]

How is he a coward, if he thinks his son was in the wrong and the mother is still trying to breastfeeding their son. The father probably said let it be a lesson son. I'm losing a days pay for some b.s!

[@Bx10473]

Someone always put in question b.f action with his family.

[@glennieluckow6659]

Or the dad knows they're lying (being forced by mom) and want no part of that. Guess we'll never know.

[@buffalowill2789]

the mothers definitely the one who pushed to sue. Jimmy didnt seem like he wanted to be there

[@jenniferodessa5998]

Lmfaoo

[@trekgirl65]

This happened years ago to a newswoman who was covering a story about a rescued dog from the streets. She had the dog in the studio and put her face up to the dog's face and he chewed up her face severely. This is why no one should put their face in from of a stranger dog. The dog does not know you.

[@michellehawkins1027]

Yes, One of the first things I was taught about dogs when I was little, was never, never put your face in their face, don't tease them or mess with them when they are eating. My parents said if you do that or are mean and the dog bites you it is your fault, not the dogs.

[@shamaoliver7989]

Oh my goodness😳😳😳

[@carolphillips8382]

That is not correct every dog I have had has been trained not to be food aggressive. However, still keep my eye out if their is a child around, thank goodness in the last 50 years I have never had an incident.

[@awakenyewhosleeprealityisn4860]

When I was little, my parents had 3 Irish Setters. They are well-known for being one of the sweetest, least aggressive dogs, which is why they get stolen so often. I thought all dogs were this way, so imagine my shock when I tried to give our neighbor’s German Shepherd a hug. He went straight for my face, but pulled himself back at the last second. This was at least 50 years ago, and I can still see those teeth! I certainly learned my lesson!!

[@payableondeath9091]

That happened to my sister's boyfriend when he was adolescent. Ultimately his face ended up ok;it just looked like acne scars if he hadn't told us...THESE ARE ANIMALS so even if there's a good owner, error on the side of caution ALWAYS 🙄

[@cypherknot]

Stop. The dog can jump and lunge over the gate far enough to get someone on the face. The dog doesn't have to clear the gate completely. Pits are athletic enough to make an adequate lunge. This judge has formed a picture in her mind and expects the plaintiff to prove her picture. She is contemptuous of the facts presented. These events happen a lot faster than the descriptive vocal telling of it. This judge thinks that the timing of the incident corresponds with her verbalizing of it. It only takes seconds, and I bet this is a behavior this dog does all the time, so it is conditioned and fit to do it.

[@Aceofwolves]

The issue isnt did the dog jump.....it's did the dog leave the property. The air above a fence counts as property. The dog never left the yard/fence so....she's not responsible....period

[@marleonetti7]

@@Aceofwolves if u live at a house where u know that people who do not live there will sometimes enter the front gate then u absolutely CANNOT have a loose pitbull in that front yard and im amazed that the judge did not see this because usually she does a better job . and if u cannot shoot someone who is in your front yard near the sidewalk then why can u let your pitbull bite someone ? u can only legally shoot a trespasser if they actually go INTO YOUR HOUSE but not your front yard and the judge should have thought about all this before she gave the verdict .

[@texasmadehoney1523]

@@Aceofwolves you couldn't be more wrong. A pet owner is still liable if their dog bites someone on their property unprovoked.

[@leaster-gh8ze]

@@marleonetti7 those are two different things did your mom forget to add chromosomes when she made u

[@Geronimo2Fly]

@@texasmadehoney1523 You're right. My dog bit someone who was on my property, and I got sued. My young (7 years) son was in the yard, the man was walking directly toward him, and my son jumped back because he was startled. My dog bit the guy once in the shin and then stood between them growling, warning the guy to back off. The man had no harmful intentions toward my son but my dog didn't know that; he did exactly what I would have wanted him to do in such a situation. But, the man won $28,000 from my homeowner's insurance company. For one bite on his leg that required a band-aid (no stitches). Yeah, you can definitely get sued even if your dog is on your own property.

[@randallporras6054]

Sounds like the defendant is ready for a cigarette. 😂

[@laurabateman8151]

😂😂😂

[@kesybaby5382]

The young man was too docile to defend himself. It was like he didn't even want to be there.

[@Bx10473]

Good observation! The mother wanted this.

[@texasmadehoney1523]

There's nothing wrong with a man being passive or nonconfrontational. The judge talks about her husband being that way all the time.

[@projectionv.accountability1010]

​@@texasmadehoney1523No one said there's something "wrong", and it's not about his position as a "man"- you're being weirdly defensive/offended. To think that there will be no impact when someone can't speak up for themselves, however, is strange. This current culture is weird...

[@stevo9421]

It's really, really sad that the father is a friend of the co-owner of the dog and that same co-owner is literally dying on hospice but the mother of the plaintiff who himself is a barely injured adult pushed and pushed to try and get money for his mistake There is zero evidence that the dog in any way or form breached the fence even in part. The plaintiffs mother should be absolutely ashamed of herself.

[@LeeoGoneWild]

Absolutely… the dad not wanting to be involved speaks volumes of the mother. Shame on her.

[@Classyslimes]

Exactly! She's pathetic

[@dawnconquest7654]

I want photo proof of the bite! 🤔🤔 I'm surprised that JM didn't ask to see them!

[@brandirae99]

yeah, i couldn’t see any mark or scar on his face. a PIT BULL bite would definitely take a chunk out of his face. i kind of feel like the dog jumped at him, but didn’t actually bite him.

[@Elteejay]

I don't think the son even wanted to sue; his mother did. He seemed a bit slow or he forgot what he was told to say.

[@notme3686]

The iq bell curve is real.

[@missy67]

I think it is possible for a dog who is in an aggressive, territorial state to lunge further than you think over a fence and bite someone. But whether the dog lunged or the plaintiff leaned in, I would think the defendant (who is your friend?) would have offered to pay at least part of their medical bills. Also I'm curious if the defendant had knowledge the plaintiff was coming to visit or was it a surprise. If they knew they could have chained the dog up knowing they were having company. The plaintiff suing for $5000 however just makes it look like they were in it for a payday.

[@latarareed7321]

🤔 HMMMMMM

[@thatvalensteingirl]

It's not going to lunge and rebound from a bite back in the yard. A forward lunge is going to keep the dog moving forward-- not bite and snap back like a rubber band

[@marleonetti7]

the dog was not contained . i guess the judge never saw a pitbull jump before . if a fence is less than 5 or 6 feet tall then a pitbull can actually jump 4 or 5 feet high and move its head forward OVER the fence and bite . there are videos that u can search and see how high pitbulls can jump . the fence was too short to contain a pitbull and even if a person leans their head a little over a fence that is not considered trespassing so i think the defendant should have won .

[@thatvalensteingirl]

@@marleonetti7 that's not what was described. He said the dog lunged *forward* and bit him, not that it was in front of him, jumped vertically, and bit him. The dog never left the confines of the fenced in yard--that's considered contained. It stayed where it belonged.

[@Aceofwolves]

When you lean over a fence.....you assume ALL risk..... He trespassed....the dog protected it's owner ... Kid got what he deserves

[@briannarivas5358]

Where’s the dad, that’s very telling.

[@cinchat430]

dad didn't want to perjure himself on tv

[@texasmadehoney1523]

The men are friends and didn't want to get involved. Why do you not listen or pay attention to the case, then comment?

[@Classyslimes]

Everyone's trying to get free money. And now they are teaching kids to be lazy and get free money. Just ridiculous

[@gummybear-wx1vr]

I feel for both parties (plaintiff going through that experience and obviously feeling so nervous in court, and the defendant’s husband is on hospice) 🥺🥺🥺

[@jennylynx1869]

I’m dumbfounded that the judge thinks this can’t happen. She has it in her head that it’s impossible and I have no clue why

[@glennieluckow6659]

Unless the dog jumped on to the fence, so its neck could stretch that far out and either slid down the fence again or pushed itself back of to land of the ground (I've seen that plenty of times), then his story doesn't make a lot of sense, but that was not how it was described. Plus, it's suspicious with the weird letter from the young son (no kid would word it like that unless instructed) and that the father didn't want to come, maybe because he didn't want to upset his dying friend or maybe, just maybe because he knows they're lying and want no part of that. To me, it seemed like it was momma's idea and her sons did what she asked them to do, but I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last.

[@M88-z5t]

The dog would have landed on the fence or on the sidewalk if Jimmy was 1.5 ft away. He wouldn't have wound up back in the yard after lunging 1.5 ft forward at Jimmy.

[@patim5953]

Dogs can do a lot of remarkable things and jump and bite isn't hard to do for dogs that can fight. That's what dogs do lunge, jump up and bite. Never underestimate what a protective dog can do.

[@marleonetti7]

the judge confused her own self by claiming the dog did some type of arched jump and arched backwards again . um , thats not how a dog jumps your honor . a dog simply jumps up at a 45 degree angle and then drops back down in a straight line from gravity .

[@texasmadehoney1523]

She just didn't want to believe the young man. Smh.

[@dianaoliver8493]

It's rare for a pit pull owner to win a dog attack case, when that dog did the attack.

[@versatileduplicity9313]

It’s stupid

[@Aceofwolves]

Because the dog did NOTHING wrong. The man leaned over a fence ...he's responsible for his OWN injury...

[@missyrose2154]

Because it was the plaintiffs fault for leaning over and invading the dogs space . The dog was in his own yard . Don’t put your face near strange dogs’ faces people

[@Dove.Love.]

I'm a few minutes in and I can tell plaintiff is lying cuz his mama told him to.

[@projectionv.accountability1010]

And Dad said "I'm out of this..."

[@Mullato2012]

@@projectionv.accountability1010 yup!

[@DD-d6d3]

@@projectionv.accountability1010 dad was going over for a booty call.

[@kellyerumph8592]

Why would the dad not tell his kids to stay in the car because they have a dog?

[@elenawilliams32]

I think that young man is more scared of his mum and her reaction in the aftermath of this case than he was of the dog. I hope she doesn't give her son a hard time, he was under pressure from her and lying for her too.

[@N5Mystique]

You could tell the mom is overbearing; that boy could barely speak. And also, I believe him. Who the heck leans over a gate to a barking dog? Bye.

[@RileyCullen1]

I have 2 dogs (setter mix & a mini schnauzer/terrier mix) & these two goof balls CAN LUNGE across our fence! Edit to add: our fence isn’t a tall one either, but they do get air! Our setter mix is a big dog too. And the fence isn’t to keep the dogs from running off, they have leads attached to the house, it’s so they wouldn’t go to the bathroom on the neighbors lawn- for clarification.

[@shrutefarms4741]

Thank you! That’s what I said. A pit could absolutely lunge at least 6” beyond the fence to try to bite.

[@SouthAnnie]

Wish I knew the address to check Google streetview for the signs. Lol

[@brandirae99]

i’m not saying he’s lying about being bit, but i’m shocked a PIT BULL bit his face, and there’s no visible mark or scar. my boyfriend got bit by a small-medium sized dog when he was really little. he’s 27 and still has a scar on his face.

[@jaypeterson7642]

as she said the dog was doing what it was created to do - protect the children or anyone else that was supposed to be there . also like the grandmother said if that kind of dog wanted to bite him other than a warning to stay away from the children he would have lost part of his face . at a time in my life i had a german shepard - a female pit bull - that was bread for fighting that i got from someone who had it in a basement and chewed thru a wire cage that had burned itself by laying next to a heater for to long and i had to replace windows as she broke thru them and found he sitting on the front steps when i got home - and a male pit bull i bought from someone who fought it from the scars on it. every one of them would protect anyone who was supposed to be there including the male that would protect female guests by sitting on their feet facing even me to show they were protected . my neighbors who didn't speak English kept feeding them thru the fence and liked them so much i had to put large rocks in the hole they dug to get to them. they would protect the property but when anyone including children were around they would have had a leg shot off and still gone at the attackers of the children. they absolutely loved ever child they ever met as that's why they weren't put down when i got them and they might have known the life they were removed from having and didn't want to be simply a killing machine for the joy of nasty people .

[@stonew1927]

Judge has an obvious bias against pit bulls. Actually, many, even most are kept as family pets because they are so sweet. They just have to be well socialized and given lots of love. Just watch Dodo videos and you'll see plenty of examples of harmless pitties acting goofy and loving up on everyone they meet. At least Judge had the good sense to rule correctly. Friendly or not, if you trespass, it's your fault for whatever happens. Doggie is just occupying their space and defending it. Sorry for the young man. Tough lesson. He still looks good though.....

[@dizziechef9502]

He said he stepped back. If that’s the case how did the dog reach him

[@kycutecool5891]

Right? xD

[@texasmadehoney1523]

The dog jumped over the fence. It was stated several times. Try to keep up.

[@missyrose2154]

@@texasmadehoney1523no. it never went over the fence completely. Try to keep up . he said it jumped up and out bit him then some how landed back in its yard

[@Indiasplace]

“After the dog bite me it hurt” 😂 why is that so funny to me!

[@9ine_598]

😶

[@sarahsperlein3001]

The dog was on private property.

[@Aceofwolves]

Yep. And he was NOT invited. He's commiting criminal trespass. The dog was protecting his family. That man could have hurt the FAMILY.

[@lutherwhitley]

Mama thought she was gonna get 5000 bucks free.. ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!

[@shebasanon4936]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 💯 agree!!!!! Moma have a seat!!!! Were is dad??? Gurl bye

[@janne639]

Around 1960 my sister stuck her hand through a chain link fence to pet a dog. The dog bit her. My dad sued the dog owner and won. The judge ruled that the dog was not under the owner's control.

[@texasmadehoney1523]

Interesting. Seems like the judge determined chain link fence aren't adequate to contain certain dogs. And that makes sense to me. Kinda like when there's a fence but the dog is able to dig under or chew through, making the fence inadequate and therefore the owner's fault/ liability.

[@elvickRULES]

Judge is dumb then.

[@victoriasokolskiy]

The dad didn’t come because he knows the truth but the mom was very pushy because she felt like she wasn’t responsible to pay for the hospital bills. Unfortunate things happen and this life but that doesn’t mean you make people pay for ever misfortune you encounter. I’m glad the defendant won this case

[@texasmadehoney1523]

The dad didn't come because the men are friends and didn't want to get involved. Pay attention and try to keep up.

[@MzMąħ]

My neighbors German Shepard used to always jump over their 6ft fence

[@ajqueen31]

Originally I thought this was a wood fence and I agreed with the judge about physics, but with a chain-link fence, the dog can absolutely get his paws in the links to gain leverage and get over the fence and have his head far enough over for a bite. Especially if it had a running start. I don't believe the plaintiff was as far away as he claims, but perhaps right up to the fence, or only inches away (not a foot or two). BTW I'm a pit bull fan and aunt, so I'm not dissing the breed just looking at how what he described could "defy physics" and not be the plaintiff's fault.

[@sashabenoit1518]

To be fair the dog could have lunged over the fence about a foot or so.. but the only way I see that happening is if the dig first jumps up and puts its front paws on top of the fence and then does a second jump/bounce to lift it's front part of the body up and over the fence and land back down on it's back legs. I've seen dogs do this plenty of times when people walk by their fence and it almost happened to me. I was on the sidewalk, had no clue there was even a dog in the yard I was walking by, and before I knew it the dog snapped right by my ear. Scared the bejesus out of me. I was on the sidewalk the whole time, the fence was at least 4ft tall and the dog continued to bounced along the fence until I was gone.

[@kycutecool5891]

Agreed. But the way it was described the dog would have fallen out onto the street if it jumped that high and that far forward.

[@versatileduplicity9313]

I hate dogs !! They need to stay in their own area !!!

[@sashabenoit1518]

@@versatileduplicity9313 umm ok...

[@versatileduplicity9313]

@@sashabenoit1518 smd

[@eleezacruz5626]

I being a pitbull owner myself can say when it comes to jumping, it is possible for this dogs breed to jump fences higher than this young man Claims the fence had been. But he shouldnt ever put his face over fences containing large dog breeds he isnt familiar with personally. He basically asked for this very unfortunate situation to happen..

[@payableondeath9091]

good comment

[@LeeoGoneWild]

The judge wasn’t denying the fact the dog could possibly jump the fence, but are your pit bulls capable of jumping a fence almost as tall as him and then pushing themselves back to land back in their own yard?

[@prairierider7569]

May you all have a most excellent evening, see y’all tomorrow

[@LaDonna-nl6dm]

Wow the defendant’s voice was unexpected 😳

[@newsflash7609]

I think the plaintiffs made up a story that was too improbable that it cost them the case. A homeowner who invites guests over has a duty of care to their guests. Just because I, a guest, step onto your property it doesn't mean that I'm subject to whatever happens to me (e.g., you have live electrical wires on your lawn, you have a big hole that's hidden by weeds that I can step into; you set up booby traps, you have a moat full of alligators). They should have tried to demonstrate (assuming such facts existed for this dog) that the particular dog was a known hazard and that the homeowners were negligent in not taking more care to guard their guests from a known hazard on their property.

[@ElLiSe..]

They did not invite him lol

[@kaiserschnitselsr]

nick ghar son was not invited. dog knew he was up to no good. nick sh1t got it coming

[@awakenyewhosleeprealityisn4860]

I feel bad for the young man. He’s got his mom asking his kid brother to lie and the dog owner telling lies. And we expect our young people to grow up with a moral compass!

[@SL-rh9og]

BLM

[@Leaa20001]

@@SL-rh9og what does BLM have to do with this?

[@meganmccrindle10]

We also have a "mean old dog" (she's actually nice to us, but a bit territorial, especially in her old age)... if someone reached into our yard and she bit, it would absolutely be their fault.

[@Nameless_mixes]

There’s no way that this dog could have jumped over the fence, bit the plaintiff (resulting in it losing all of its momentum), and jumped back onto the other side of the fence. It would have landed on the outside of the fence. I personally think that both sides were full of bologna. The plaintiff wasn’t accurately portraying the events that happened and the defendant was acting like their house was waaay more prepared for people to know that they had an aggressive dog.

[@TatewakiGaming]

I feel that you are very mistaken. In my neighborhood there was a back yard enclosed by a 5’ wooden fence. The pit bull looking dogs in that yard could not only leap up and get their heads over a foot out from the fence line, one of them actually managed to routinely vault over the fence. It got so bad that the owners (after people made several complaint calls to bylaw) installed a 1’ topper to bring the fence height to 6’. That stopped the shenanigans. So yeah, I can more than imagine a dog reaching over a fence, biting someone, and then dropping back down into his yard. It depends on the strength and athleticism of the dog. Gravity does the rest.

[@earthraindove2870]

I've seen many pitbulls jump in way defendant described.

[@Aceofwolves]

It's not a breed thing....I watched a lab leap over a short fence and chased me up the road... Thankfully the owners were able to get the dog under control before I was bit.

[@vegetaroronoa2660]

Any athletic dog can jump it’s not a pit bull thing

[@ButtonsCasey]

But the fence was up to his chest. Yea dogs can jump, but if the dog jumped straight up and out, it would have come down on the fence.

[@03-bianca53]

My mom had a dog that could clear a 10ft fence. It seems unreasonable for Judge M to act like that isn’t possible or even consider the idea. It just makes no sense. Especially with the defendant lying.

[@blackhawk7810]

Pits has a tremendous leap.. I've owned 2 of them.

[@antoinetteking2072]

One of the few times I don’t agree with the judge. They were there to visit, he was on his way through the fence anyway and on to the property. She’s almost punishing him for being cautious and stopping outside the fence. If he had continued to follow his Father in through the fence the dog probably would have still bitten him, how is that his fault? If you have guest coming over maybe contain your dog better so they can't bite your friends faces.

[@texasmadehoney1523]

Exactly. I believe him. He looks like a passive young man and he just didn't do well under her very aggressive and accusatory interrogation. He looked nervous.

[@LeeoGoneWild]

He leaned over the fence to see the dog, it’s his fault, period.

[@awakenyewhosleeprealityisn4860]

Wow, I love that lady’s blouse!!

[@34stzoo]

Why are we discussing anything. The kid leaned over the fence and got bit…. End of story!

[@kyoto32001]

pretty sure i know WHY the father was "visiting" the home.

[@payableondeath9091]

go off now😝🤣

[@angelmercy5261]

Um owner doesn’t have to have ANY signs. She has a fence and contained her dog properly. Defendants mother is greedy and looking for a pay day. Jimmy definitely was too close to the fence and to the dog. It was his own fault.

[@DonziGT230]

A dog can easily jump onto a fence and reach out over a foot and return, I've seen it happen. I have doubt that that's what happened, but it can.

[@johncalvosa]

Absolutely a dog can lung over a top of a fence. Especially a four foot fence , even a five foot fence. Not sure what happened here but my own dogs would easily climb chain link fences.

[@mrshappilymarried1]

Judge sometimes you go overboard as if you have a crystal 🔮 ball and you know emphatically what happened. Crazy outlandish shit happens all the time Geesh. Dogs can lunge leap jump or hop!!!

[@hey-you7]

If he was 1.5 feet away from the fence the dog would have been over the fence completely at that point.

[@graduatge105]

I agree. The story sounds possible. I don’t know why she was acting like it couldn’t happen.

[@eyeeluna6684]

The judge is wrong on this one, yes I've seen dogs jump up and grab /bite a tire hanging from a tree. Imagine an angry pit 100% they will jump up and snap and bite your face and so fast you will have no time to step back. Notice how everyone in the crowd said the owner was responsible.

[@ButtonsCasey]

Yeah but there isn't a four foot fence between them and the tire.

[@lynzstark]

I think what she was saying though was if the dog cleared the fence and went another foot and a half, wouldn't the dog now be free? To continue to bite? I agree that it's possible for my pit to lunge at that height but if a person was standing completely upright a foot and a half away, she'd be on top of him at that point. To add to it, his instinct would have been to jump back at that point, making it even more possible for the dog to continue in a forward direction and not like a basketball hitting a backboard and bouncing right back into the fence?!

[@mrsm2932]

Harvey always find the stupidest people to talk to. They are almost never right.

[@JeremiahLOsborne]

This was a tough case. It looked like a 4 ft tall chain link fence. If that's the case, a pitbull when I'm running start could certainly jump to the top of that fence and lunge over a foot and a half to bite that kid in the face. I don't think he really told his story well enough for the judge to understand how low the fence was. But I definitely understand her ruling. If there's a dog, and a fence, and a no trespassing or beware of dog sign, it pretty much relieves the owner of liability for a dog attack.

[@ElLiSe..]

That’s why she asked him to use the chair as example also he said the fence was at his neck. The problem is he said the dog leap at him n landed back in the fence area even though he was from a distance hence why it’s not possible the dog would land on the fence or on the other side

[@marleonetti7]

i guess the judge never saw a pitbull jump before . if a fence is less than 5 or 6 feet tall then a pitbull can actually jump 4 or 5 feet high and move its head forward OVER the fence and bite . there are videos that u can search and see how high pitbulls can jump . the fence was too short to contain a pitbull and even if a person leans their head a little over a fence that is not considered trespassing so i think the defendant should have won .

[@JeremiahLOsborne]

@@marleonetti7 definitely putting your head over the fences trespassing. It will be the same concept as if I own a tree, and the branches hung over your property. You can cut those branches right up to the property line all the way up to the sky. That's my part of the tree. But you're definitely right about pitbulls jumping. There are videos out there of pitbulls that can literally run up a 15 ft wall. I know that takes training, but if the average Pitbull can jump even a third of that, we're still talking about 5 ft. I believe that's plenty of room an opportunity for the dog to bite someone who is *not* over the fence. Nevertheless, it's irrelevant because there's a fence and there are a number of other aggravating circumstances which would have led a reasonable individual to stay away from the dog.

[@marleonetti7]

@@JeremiahLOsborne its perfectly legal to look over a fence and it is not considered trespassing so i dont know what this judge was thinking , terrible verdict .

[@marleonetti7]

ok i just watched this again and this verdict is even WORSE than i thought . the plaintiff walks into an open gate right behind his father when all of the sudden a LOOSE pitbull goes toward him so he backs up toward the open gate to the sidewalk and thats when the pitbull jumps up and bites him . wtf is the judge talking about him leaning over the fence for when u cannot even lean over while u are backing away from an effing pitbull . and why did the lady have a LOOSE pitbull when they knew people would be coming onto the property ? and how can the judge miss all these important details ? this is one of her worst verdicts ever .

[@Amanda-mb7zt]

I have a dog that most definitely could have made that leap.

[@benbazy9238]

5 stitches in my nose because the neighbors dog bit me. Why did he bite me? Because I put my face up to him like I always did with my dog at home. I was 8. My parents were upset that I was bit, concerned if I was ok, turned out to be nothing serious but some stitches, but never once considered suing. That dog would never have attacked me if I did not do that.

[@cdickerson8759]

I don't care how close to the fence he was, if a friend of the family gets bitten by my dog I am offering to pay the medical bills.

[@kathydavenport4422]

My brother had a great Dame and she bit me though the fence so it can happen. Thank the Lord my brother paid my medical bills. Nice guy love my brother.

[@elishahankin6465]

The dog could have used the fence to leap up!

[@juliewhite8274]

I wonder if they took pictures of the bite mark and if there was a hospital bill?

[@shelberz1]

I don’t understand. Ive seen many a dog jump/climb fences.

[@Mimi197-f2z]

LMFAO PLAINTIFFS r soooooooooooo mad they lost! WE ALL KNOW HE LEANED OVER THE FENCE!!

[@DyanaB]

That's Marge Simpson's little sister, behind Velma. 🤣

[@dizziechef9502]

I bet he did lean in. The dog isn’t that tall I bet to reach over a high fence to bite him.

[@mickm6309]

I predict Adrian making a comment about the way Milian treats blacks.

[@shirleywiese5230]

Yep it will be coming soon 😂

[@ShortyLexiex3]

Right, I was thinking the same 🤣🤣

[@Elteejay]

Yep, that's definitely going to happen. Lol.

[@projectionv.accountability1010]

100% If it's a pitbull, she's "automatically" against pitbulls. Race-drian wants the pit to win, but dammit, the other side is black, so this time the pit was supposed to lose. Looks like she's racist!

[@mickm6309]

@@projectionv.accountability1010 Sadly Pit bulls can be bad, but it is made worse because 80% of their owners should only be allowed to keep a hamster as a pet.

[@amyann13]

Dog warden in our town made me take down my beware of dog sign. 🤷🏼‍♀️ it actually increases your liability

[@befrugalwithus]

I use to defend pitbulls. Nope I cant anymore due to this show. The breed seems amazing but I wont go near one at all.

[@RougeStrom]

Her voice reminds me of Dr Girlfriend's voice on The Venture Bros.🤣🤣🤣

[@janelle_111]

Dang will they just say the fence was still open that’s the most obvious reasoning!

[@stephanieruiz9053]

My pit bull most definitely can lunge a foot away from the fence and bite someone in the face.

[@shamaoliver7989]

The people who is blaming the plaintiff for getting bit in his face is not right if ya'll were bit in the face how would you feel? I believe this: The plaintiff went to walk behind his dad and he was too close up to the fence, the dog started barking then the dog jumped up and bit his face. The only thing is I don't believe the dog bit his severely to cause stitches because he don't even have 1 scar on his face. The dog nipped him on the face but not enough to leave deep puncture wounds. Another thing is why the dad didn't show up in court, that's odd?🤔🤨😐

[@Aceofwolves]

As someone who was bit by a dog.....he's 100% at fault for his injuries.... He shouldn't have leaned into a FENCE

[@0LadyV0]

I'm having a problem, with people showing up, at a house surrounded by a fence, and just walking in. He said they were in the area. Were they expected? Even a service worker would not enter, with a dog in the yard, without a homeowner's presence.

[@ruthrecord6430]

Walking by a house.... I got bit. They use the fence to reach!!!!!

[@shawnganesh2348]

He look like he was gonna cry 😢

[@mbord7563]

I saw that too. He wasn't being " tough"

[@texasmadehoney1523]

I'm sure he's traumatized and then to go to court and not be believed. Just awful.

[@barbarapaton4005]

I think the young man was less than honest when he said he was not on the property. He probably followed his dad to the door. The dog lunged at him. My personal observation and opinion . In any case the owner should have had the pit bull contained. And have a ‘beware of dog’ sign on the fence.

[@jimthegatormantwopoint0]

This case is based on common sense and nothing more. Who else agrees?

[@jennifermonroe1716]

The pit jumped over the fence and bit him. The dog’s owner needs to pay.

[@NellieKAdaba]

Probably

[@shellk71able]

The dog owner should have offered to pay the bills. Your dog bit someone be responsible and offer.

[@Aceofwolves]

Do I have to pay when I shoot a violent trespasser... Same idea here.

[@keishalebray1996]

I think the dad brought his son and told him to stay put cuz he prolly knew the dog was aggressive to strangers. The son prolly didn’t believe him and tried his luck and got bit which is why dad ain’t here. Or the son is telling the truth and the dog lunged at him. Either way the defendant did her job by enclosing the dog in her yard. Sign or not.

[@texasmadehoney1523]

Wrong. And weird..

[@TheOne-jl1sb]

Also his brother witnessed everything and she still doesn’t believe him

[@jesnrbrt4evr11]

Whether it's a beware of dog or no trespassing sign it doesn't matter it's telling you to stay off the property for a reason not only that but the dog was inside of the gate.

[@YoungHaveNot]

A pitbull can easily lunge foward by pulling itself with its front legs, using the fence as leverage. However i think he was closer than 1ft away

[@Marie-en5pv]

Even if the dog jumped and its jaws crossed the top of the fence, the defendent had to either be leaning on the gate or, at the very least, had the front part of his body in contact with the gate. It would be too much of an angle otherwise.

[@brittanyylee1833]

Pitbulls can jump and leap. Have yall seem them jump to ropes in trees.. powerful breed.

[@ElLiSe..]

Yes but land back on his property n not over the fence, he’s lucky the dog didn’t hold on him

[@lolocaust4967]

The judge has clearly never seen a dog jump up and lunge over a fence. I used to have a great dane that did it to passers by. Admittedly all he ever did was wag his tail and try to lick people 🤣 But yeah, dogs can do this easily. 2 seconds of searching on youtube and you can see tons of clips of dogs doing it.

[@christopherramon-reid2000]

Aww man. The dog could have definitely lunged over the fence and quickly bitten the plaintiff. I’m not sure Milian decided correctly here.

[@LeeoGoneWild]

And then pushed himself back to land in his own yard? I’m curious, a pit bull jumping like 5 and a half feet, lung himself forward a foot, grab something, and then push himself back, so he lands in the yard?

[@Aceofwolves]

If that happened.... His face would have been torn to shreds from the force. AND the dog would have landed in the street. Neither happened

[@badgurl5758]

The dog was on its own property doing what dog’s do.. sorry kiddo

[@nicoleh.6352]

Why didn't dad just pay the bills, since it seems he didn't want them to sue...split the medical bills... be done with it...

[@danishayesimmons9600]

I don't believe the plaintiff leaned in. It is absolutely possible for a dog to jump on a fence and stretch out as it's excited and bite someone. And that's a chain link, those can have a little give. Not like it's a privacy fence or something. Judge had her mind made up before the case started

[@tanyawins]

Absolutely! Grew up with dogs, not pits. When a dog jumps excitedly, their head is easily over the fence and they land back down. Grew up with dogs that stayed behind a chain link fence. THEY DO HAVE GIVE! Also, It’s sad his Dad didn’t show up, he choose an old neighbor over blood??!! Then the defendant lied about the signs. Please!

[@kycutecool5891]

He probably did. If the dog was already barking and he was wary of it, he would have had plenty of time to get away from the fence if it reached over to get at him. But he somehow got bit. He *had* to have poked his head over and gave the dog a little greeting. Maybe it stood up slowly and he thought it was nice, but it bit him instead. That I have seen happen. You think a dog is friendly, it sniffs you for a bit, you think its fine, then suddenly it snaps. I work with rescue dogs, so I know. Fortunately I have not been injured. Yet. xD Some co-workers though I've seen this happen to. Anyway, even if the fence had give, he stated he was a good distance away. If the dog had a running start, he would have seen it coming and moved away no? On the other hand, if the dog was by the fence, I do not think it could have jumped up that height, extended its upper body and head that far to reach him, snap his face, *and then* pull itself back into the yard as if it was holding onto the fence. It's just not possible! Imagine it, and consider where most of a pitbull's weight is! It would have bit his face, flipped over and fell onto the footpath if things happened the way he and his mom are saying! ;w; More likely scenario: He peeked over, it stood up to nip him, and he just had that split second to recoil so it wasn't able to grab onto his face to do more damage. It ends up right back in the yard.

[@Aceofwolves]

Except the dog would have landed on the street. The dog landed in it's own yard. The air above a yard is private property.

[@seanharden3900]

About time MILIANI YOU STUCK UP FOR PITBULLS its not the dog its the OWNER

[@richardm5540]

I was a mailman for over 7yrs . I’ve seen many dogs get over fences . They bite the Judge was wrong!!