He Ruined It

[@oneeyedpunk]

He literally asked for a "homemaker" and then cried when presented with the reality of such an arrangement

[@GrayRain0]

It’s insane. I’d love a traditional household but god knows it probably ain’t feasible in my wage bracket :(

[@AmazingAutist]

​@GrayRain0 one day man. Something's Gotta break and it won't be us

[@microwave4928]

@@GrayRain0that ain’t your fault dude it’s becoming harder and harder for people to obtain those lives

[@iDriveDaily]

He crumbled at being asked to be responsible - a trad wife can only be (happily) sustainable in a trad household these days, where the man will need to provide the income to support the family, not just himself. I can only imagine that he probably has nothing going for him and knows that he could never support the household like that. Being called out and asked to be a man was just too much for this child.

[@danig342]

Because he doesn’t want a trad wife. He wants a bang maid that will also work outside the home. It’s going to be a lonely life for this sad loser

[@AlwaysM0ndayy]

He doesn't want a tradwife, he wants a mom. Someone who will raise kids, keep home, AND pay for his immature ass.

[@AnthroGearhead]

Highly agree

[@TyTy-cx7rp]

Isn’t that….. good?

[@lenn111v]

​@@TyTy-cx7rpits unrealistic. immature and honestly a tiny bit creepy

[@mathieucac6699]

😬grow up@@TyTy-cx7rp

[@Reeritsu]

Yeah but the only problem is he doesn’t want to sleep with his mom so he’s gonna say it doesn’t count LMAO

[@Adam-vg2lj]

him: "I want a traditional wife" her: "I want to be a traditional wife" him: "ew wtf you're a gold digger"

[@RobotWillie]

Which isn't too much different than a pile of shit that doesn't stink, its still a pile of shit.@@MadPaperMario

[@christop3]

"I want someone who will cook, clean, take care of the house, raise the kids" "Okay, yeah thats me, thats what I'm looking for" "Oh so you want to contribute nothing to the relationship, gold digger?" "No, I'm literally offering traditional wife skills to the relationship, the exact things you wanted from a partner" "You're a gold digging harlot! I knew it was too good to be true!!!" Tell me this guy isn't a fresh and fit fan, please. Theres no way he consumes any other redpill content and misses the mark that hard.

[@J420-x6p]

Straight up brain rot

[@DorkLord69]

me: "Why do you care"

[@dreamiinotdream730]

Yeah idk how he expects her to be a traditional wife WHILE working at the same time. Because aside from sperm, he’s not bringing much else to the table

[@BudgetDiety]

Guy found a woman who wants to be a stay at home trad-wife, and managed to call her a gold digger for agreeing with him? These dudes have never had a coherent thought in their lives.

[@KindaOutofHere]

All Star Level of fumbling

[@hanu9830]

hes a dog who finally caught up to a car and had no idea what to do 😂

[@BobbieGuam]

​@@hanu9830oml that's a beautiful response

[@fanfanlocklear]

cause nobody really want a home trad-wife, they want a moms

[@andrewvu7865]

@@hanu9830i understood that reference 😂

[@ThePurpleKnightmare]

He didn't want a Tradwife, he wanted a girl who worked full time, but also takes care of the kids on her own and prioritizes being pretty for him.

[@cat_clan_leader]

A guy that likes the idea of a trad wife but isn't willing to get a job

[@artorhen]

He wanted a mom

[@valorous288]

He wanted a baby mama

[@RAZORWlND]

​@@cat_clan_leadera trad wife with a trust fund is what he desires I beleive lol.😅

[@juliehammer2903]

I've heard that referred to as a "Bang Maid".

[@PeachthePom]

The amount of low income men who say that they want a trad wife but scream gold digger when they have to be a provider is astounding

[@leojoking1615]

I want a goth big ass girl that loves me and it's 100% loyal no ♾️% loyal that is crazy about me

[@tomato1019]

So real​@@leojoking1615

[@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395]

@@leojoking1615lmao what

[@yana4310]

​@@leojoking1615you're probably being sarcastic but Bro wants a yandere gf 💀 Calm down this aint anime. Someone crazy about you will also be the end of you. Look at someone else and your body is in a river

[@amayeskennour8138]

i am a 13 year old kid who doesn't really know about dating and i also think that this is outstanding

[@elfrangofrito]

I'm still in shock with how lovely and patient this woman was towards this guy even after he called her all possible names. She deserves way better than this.

[@trinidad8831]

fr, my pettiness would have made me block them after they said "something is wrong with you" lmaoo

[@bgaming2297]

Honestly, the way she was acting can get under people like the guy’s skin more than anything lol

[@zlorkk]

Im Charlie’s evil twin from a different dimension

[@Toddpeekence]

She more than likely doesn't even exist in this situation.

[@Zampedzazzy]

Such a graceful reaction I would’ve been foaming at the mouth 🤣

[@OV-10]

he didn't fumble, he threw the ball on the floor and started crying.

[@nonji.4160]

LMAO HELP

[@TehFoamy]

It's so fucking funny that he says that "emotionally stable, takes care of herself, good with kids" are inherently female traits, like he's implying that emotional stability and taking care of yourself are unreasonable expectations for a man lmao

[@user-vm6mw5xw7o]

I absolutely love this part of it. it’s so ironic how he then lends credence to it by being himself lmao

[@MigattenoBlakae]

In his defense… he’s living proof that it’s something a lot of men struggle with. And I’m saying that _as a man_, who is both emotionally unstable and bad at taking care of himself. It would definitely help if things like therapy, self awareness, and “having emotions on the outside”, weren’t seen as emasculating by some people.

[@iwillgowiththatcat8667]

⁠@@MigattenoBlakaeoh very much.i can’t agree more, I hope nothing but healing and happiness for you my fren

[@Arffff03]

@@MigattenoBlakaeright!!! These “alphas” spread rhetoric about men that says showing feelings brings about femininity and make them “weak.” They tell other men to take out their frustrations on women and it just makes the division between women and men worse. Not only this, but they NEVER advise their viewers to get therapy. Instead, they gotta invest in bitcoin or pay thousands of dollars to be in a discord server… how does that help men??? I’m so tired of bs..

[@TheSexhaver2625]

To be fair the “traditional lifestyle” is dead. Bc you can’t simply support two people let alone a family, afford two cars, and a family home off one salary unless it’s $250,000+. (Which is like 1% of jobs). It’s not the 60’s anymore. What IS realistic is a hybrid lifestyle. Both work and BOTH help out with cleaning and parenting, maybe live in an apartment.

[@jasminel8166]

i think people like this guy don’t see housework and childcare as work, but they absolutely are. Thats part of the deal of one partner staying at home.

[@user-bc9fh3jv3b]

yes, i saw a video is a lady whose husband called useless because she doesnt do anything and she decided not to clean the house for 2 days and it was a whole mess

[@itisyerdad]

They certainly see it as work once they have to do it tho!

[@idontwantahandlethough]

not only is it work, it's important work!! Like jesus christ, how do people still not realize that taking care of children is like... literally one of the THE most important jobs there is?! Having a parent (or two, if you're really lucky) that cares about you and puts serious & consistent effort into your development gives you the biggest possible advantage in life imaginable. I really don't think I can overstate how important it is, and yet so many act like it's easy or not important :/

[@aiaesthetics1124]

Child care is nothing like house work 😂 it’s a full time job with no breaks and no vacation.

[@MrPaxio]

but its very easy and childcare takes both parents, and only after couple years it goes away

[@Wvlfmane]

This one was just painful. He literally had it in the bag and still had to go full entitled incel and absolutely fumble it lol The thing about these guys is they basically want a mom who will take care of them and their home but they refuse to return the favor. It’s like if you want this “trad wife” who’s gonna do all that you better be bringing A LOT to the table for them too.

[@musclegeek1991]

Nah I don’t think he had anything in the bag I’m pretty sure she was mocking his douchey expectations from the beginning lol

[@aj3706]

@@musclegeek1991 I don't hope that's the case

[@fart4453]

@@musclegeek1991I hope so because I’m sure there were red flags before he got all “gold digger!”

[@gigamad1729]

@@musclegeek1991Not really. Despite the trad wife being kind of outdated, healthy relationships can still be maintained from it and many people do. I don’t see the red flag in the beginning but as Charlie said, to have a trad wife, he’d need to be a trad husband because the relationship just wouldn’t work. He basically wanted a parent instead of a wife would provide everything for him which was the wrong part but trad families are pretty common and healthy

[@musclegeek1991]

@@gigamad1729 he had already shown her on the first date that he wasn’t capable of supporting the trad wife he wanted, because she had to pay for dinner. She was mocking him, 100%

[@devi67r]

"you are belittling her for what you want her to do" that sums up a lot of misogyny

[@isolabarge4196]

unfortunately

[@bullettime1116]

i refuse to believe guys like these exist, what happens to make guys become this? none of my friends ended up like this.

[@hospitable_ghost]

@@bullettime1116*sees a guy like this existing* "I refuse to believe guys like this exist because of my incredibly small personal sample!"

[@jeanmarc6517]

​@@hospitable_ghost wow, its almost like its a way of expressing confusion and/or shock rather than him litteraly refusing to believe something. Wow, language can have a deeper meaning than just reading it word by word? I know, I cant believe it too!

[@other_horizon1085]

@@bullettime1116 entitlement, narcissism, and gentle parenting/momma's boy-ism

[@abbiereynolds8016]

They don't want a traditional wife, they want some weird trad wife/progressive career woman hybrid type wife. Which is impossible. You can only have one, unless you want the poor woman to have a mental breakdown.

[@Mikozee]

She needs to have a good paying job that can pay for his hobbies but also be willing to quit her job at the drop of a hat to take care of the kids and clean the house but also be willing to resume her job again at a moment's notice while also taking care of the kids by remote working and part timing but also quit again when he needs an outlet for his libido to be his personal on-call sex doll but also work again because he needs money but also quit when

[@j.g.3293]

He wants a mom he can f***. Guys like this are becoming pretty common.

[@yerboi1998]

@@Mikozee he probably also expects her to change his diapers every hour, jesus christ these type of men are fucking lossers

[@QuietPiano]

The weirdest thing is that when they somehow find that one in a million woman who'll pay for them and even do house chores, they still manage to mess up, because of their ego 😂. I've known many women who ended up being cheated on, because apparently the husbands can't take that their wifes are earning more money, cause it makes em feel self-conscious about not being the bread winners

[@mr.dirtydan3338]

​@@QuietPianobecause these types of people don't want what they think they want, they just want a blow up doll

[@DEADisBEAUTIFUL]

I saw this post on Reddit. The whole “humiliation” situation was because he’d tried to order for her…and she refused what he’d tried to order because she was allergic to it. I assumed it was because of money at first, but she’d explained it was over his order for her. She was the one to foot the bill though.

[@AzraelReaperX]

Trying to order someone else's meal is fuckin' wild.

[@Nonameherenotuser]

I feel like this guy is just a control freak that just wants to have power over his woman. This is really pathetic.

[@justsummers1559]

She's allergic like wtfff

[@Ginger_Sweet]

I’ve seen the same post on am I the asshole on FB LOL

[@yungsouljah2012]

⁠​⁠@@AzraelReaperX it is to us but oldheads really did/do that shit n even encourage it for beaucoup reasons

[@ryanside7095]

Wait, if he was so offended by the idea of him being the provider, then why did he feel humiliated when she paid for the food?

[@cptteacosy6158]

I just read a comment that said it wasn't bc she paid, apparently its because he tried to order her food for her and she turned it down bc of allergies, which is an even more pathetic reason to get "humiliated" 😂

[@livingcheese2910]

@@cptteacosy6158 Who the fuck orders for someone else on their first date if they don't even know them, what they like or can't/won't eat lmao. The first date is literally there to get to know eachother. Making decisions for a stranger you don't know (yet) sounds like a huge red flag.

[@cptteacosy6158]

@@livingcheese2910 it's a fucking crimson flag homie stay WELL fucking clear of that 😂

[@interragata]

Patrick Bateman.@@livingcheese2910

[@emotionalboii]

@@cptteacosy6158 bro is embarrassing. Doesn’t complain about his bill being paid but calls her a gold digger, and mad he can’t order her food like she’s a kid

[@lunaeverIy]

There are actually plenty of women out there who would love to be a trad wife so i used to never understand why redpillers are upset all the time. But now i know why. They don't even want an actual trad wife. They want someone who acts like a trad wife while also contributing money to their home. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@jessbellis9510]

They just want a mum with benefits. Which is beyond disturbing.

[@TheRaven-WingGaming]

See this is why I hate the term red pilling, because it's supposed to basically mean someone is swapping to being either Republican or conservative when it comes to political mindset, it's not supposed to mean that you're becoming a cringe POS, but unfortunately with situations such as this, with the alpha male podcasts causing Alpha levels of brain rot Within These guys, shit like this is why the term is being poisoned

[@tb2024ss]

100%

[@OakwoodZReal]

Thats the contrary of redpill They should provide with money Acording to most redpill people So this guy wants a queen Without being a king

[@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117]

They want a mother they can sleep with.

[@Small_child_punter]

Can we talk about how well each of her responses were constructed? She handled this like a fucking G! She dogged him.

[@CassCat69]

almost too perfect yknow and in this clout hungry world you never really know if any of these convos are real

[@Small_child_punter]

@@CassCat69 that’s fair.

[@briangwynn3592]

@@CassCat69 I refuse to believe this isn't ragebait. If it's not, he's definitely a manchild, she's definitely a gold digger, and the comments here make me lose faith in humanity.

[@motherunknown5587]

@@briangwynn3592was it you texting her 💀

[@yoriex3577]

Yes, totally. They actually reasoned with this person. I would have given up after the first message, it already reeks sexism.

[@Heebie-Deebies]

I love how he's so brain broken by modern alpha male podcasts that even an actual trad wife is just a "gold digger" to him

[@UTTPCaptain]

DIDNT ASK:MY CONТЕNT = WAY BETTER!!!!!!!😂💀⚡️⚡️😜🪩

[@UTTPCaptain]

DIDNT ASK:MY CONТЕNT = WAY BETTER!!!!!!!😂💀⚡️⚡️😜🪩

[@wy477x]

@@UTTPCaptain i can confirm your content is way better at making me want to punch my screen. 10/10 would rage again

[@RobbieStacks90]

Those podcasters aren't actual alpha males. We don't realize it ourselves, but other people notice that when an alpha male walks into a room, there's an air of tacit reverence among the onlookers. That's one of the trademark qualities of being an alpha male: the ability to walk into any room, social setting, or situation and be in complete control of things such that everybody else defers to you and even joins your side for protection.

[@bbrbbr-on2gd]

@@RobbieStacks90 Those are also the qualities of a Disney Princesses 💀

[@Succubitxh]

The audacity to text "u up right now?" after that tantrum is hilarious💀

[@delayedcreator4783]

people really falling for obvious trolls for some reddit karma

[@SynthhInHD]

It's fake homie

[@atheistyoda8915]

@@SynthhInHD Is it though?

[@Succubitxh]

@@SynthhInHD ok cool?💀

[@Jah3232]

That is absolutely baffling

[@TheRaven-WingGaming]

Here's the thing, don't ask for a traditional wife if you're not going to be a traditional husband. The same applies on the other end of the spectrum here don't ask for a traditional husband if you're not going to be a traditional wife. The problem in this scenario though was the fact that the dude just wanted to be careful like he was still a child, and yet still do things that adults do, but yet didn't want to actually be the other half of the role that comes with being a traditional family. I'm sure y'all don't need a lengthy description like I've known for doing unfortunately, so I won't bore you guys with a paragraph, lol. Overall though, people sometimes are just wanting Maids that help with bills, and they should be avoided at all costs. They're not worth while, they're narcissistic and self-centered, and they're not going to put themselves out at all for the sake of the family, only for themselves.

[@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ]

When I once was, untouchable, innocence roared. Still amazes. When I once was, innocent, it is still here, but in different places.

[@Vergil_sparda1987]

@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δdang!

[@sullivanhouse4697]

​@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ ?

[@alexisgeiser4387]

He wanted an unpaid maid, nanny, sex worker who also works another job and pays his bills. God I hate that

[@James-vy5jg]

Crazy yeah

[@James-vy5jg]

Also who wants a traditional wife in THIS economy. Man has to be early 20s late teens. Ain’t no way someone is that dumb

[@TheMisterGuy]

"He wanted an unpaid maid, nanny, sex worker who also works another job and pays his bills. God I hate that" Well he can want any crazy non-existent thing he can dream up but it's not happening because it's not possible. I think you'd need three wives for this. Two of them are high income earners who for some reason don't mind paying everyone else's bills. One of them is a superhuman homemaker tradwife. Even then, you can't have children with all of them because the tradwife isn't going to be able to raise that many children (most of whom aren't hers) while also cooking cleaning for four adults and three sets of children. God the more I think about this the more I see how totally unsustainable it is to have just one person be a totally useless lump.

[@Anikthias]

These guys arent looking for a wife, theyre looking for their mom

[@idontlikediabetes23]

Heavy on this

[@Shreyas-S]

We need to stop proving Freud right.

[@kieranstyx3633]

Right on the money. 💯

[@ThomasHendrickson]

We need better moms. This is sad.

[@BeWhyBY]

Yoooooooooo 🤣

[@dovahkiinchickennugget4182]

One of the reasons traditional housewives just aren’t as common anymore is because the cost of living is so expensive that both parties now have to work. So if you’re asking for a traditional housewife it’s implied that you’re well off financially. If you can’t even pay the bill to take her on a date, you’re in no position to ask her to be a traditional housewife.

[@Kittenlover113355]

also too women know now that its p scary to be fully financially dependent on a man who can dump u at any time (before u say alimony, its a lot less common than youd think)

[@cat_clan_leader]

This is very true, you need a reasonably good job if you want to fully commit to that lifestyle. It's so sad that the economy is ruining these kinds of relationships

[@Kittenlover113355]

@@cat_clan_leader another major reason is that women know it’s very risky to rely on a man financially so even without the economy it would be decreasing

[@cat_clan_leader]

@@Kittenlover113355 then that's the man's fault for pushing for a relationship he can't support. If you can't support that kind of relationship, then pick another one. It's really only fitting for guys who know the system and are equipped for a moderately well paying job, but then then not all of them want a trad relationship anyways, so it becomes even more rare

[@RAZORWlND]

It's doable on single income if he makes over the high $80k range. Also, not live in any major city or suburb. But the relationship has to be based off of being best friends, partner, consultant, etc.. You have to be really happy and enjoy your life together to make that life work in digital age.. NOTHING is easy to hide anymore, that trust better be cranked all the way to 100%...

[@thaianh8366]

"I paid for last night my dude 💀" You can just wrap it up right there

[@theuhhperson7745]

Dude why do you have that pfp

[@caidalee1994]

Charlie, it’s much more simple than that. The problem is that she expressed preference in her spouse at all, instead of just being a pile of goo for him to mold. He’s allowed to have an idea of who he wants, but he never expected she might also want her spouse to have any specific trait. That makes her too human and not just “a female”. She could’ve expressed any preference and she would’ve received the same response.

[@priceysquirrel3489]

On the nail. Guys like him basically want they're wife to not want or want the opposite of what the man wants so that the man can feel like the one with power. Basically he's in control and she follows. Her showing enthusiasm for the role he expects of her ruins the power fantasy.

[@debomb721]

He just wanted a bang slave

[@musclegeek1991]

I mean to be fair she was totally baiting him. Her response was not legitimate. You can tell because it was formatted like 1 to 1 in the same way that he stated his preference. She was mocking him. Which is fine lol, he deserves to be mocked. But her response definitely had the same energy as when a woman asks me how tall I am and I reply by asking how much she weighs. 😂

[@PopeCromwell]

Right on. He's a narc, looking for a woman who will just be an extension of himself and not be an individual with a secure identity. It's a curse that means he will never enjoy true love or friendship.

[@varadsalunkhe9008]

@@musclegeek1991 but then proceeds to call her a gold digger for no reason and insult her

[@williamgregory1848]

This is the part of the whole "trad-wife" thing I don't get. If you want a stay-at-home wife/girlfriend, you HAVE to be providing for that lifestyle. That means working your ass off. And if you're willing to do that, because that's what you want, then more power to you. But the expectation that your partner will never want anything is absolutely insane. Get a sexbot if that's what you're looking for.

[@skittles5703]

They don’t really want a trad wife. They just want someone to control and abuse

[@JamesIronhawk]

The 'trad-wife' community and the 'red-pill' community are two completely different groups. I find it funny how much the red-pill talks highly about trad-wives while all of the trad-wives would hate their guts for promoting male sexual promiscuity while at the same time insulting and degrading women for even daring to have premarital sex with any man other than himself. The man from that text conversation clearly watches so much red-pill content that it rotted his mind to mush.

[@generalkenobi1972]

Plus what i dont get, in this economy most of the time it requires both people to have a job to survive especially when you have kids but when both you and your wife work an 8 hour shift you can't expect her to do all the chores take care of the kids etc. thats why the whole Trad wife thing is retarded and all people over the age of 14 should realize that

[@hospitable_ghost]

"it"? I think you mean "them" dude

[@aloevera7104]

@@hospitable_ghostI think by ‘it’ they mean the lifestyle, not the woman

[@ThePolarisSystem]

She didn’t dodge a bullet, she dodged a friggin tactical nuke.

[@EngineNo5]

this is the funniest comment here lmao

[@KittenChristy]

He didn't want a tradwife, he wants a mom...

[@thefoxsaysno9951]

straight up parried that shit like that one video

[@CHADFUTUREHAN]

​@@KittenChristymore like a slave tbh

[@bigoldoinks1219]

@MongiusLordnah but your mommas snatch is definitely better than your content 😂😂😂

[@zubetp]

you'll notice how the things he requested became other things as soon as he was frustrated with her. takes care of herself > plays dress-up traditional woman > gold digger this is inherent to the tradwife issue. being a loving supporter to your partner, prioritizing your lifestyle and your children - these aren't anti-feminist. but when you _identify_ yourself with "traditional womanhood," you're introducing yourself to men like this, who will recharacterize the relationship in order to shame and punish you when they're angry. plenty of people who end up financially dependent on abusers can attest to this behavior - their partner will accuse them of being a freeloader for not being able to contribute financially. they will insult and downplay the work their partner puts into the relationship by saying it's natural behavior, part and parcel with maintaining the home, or the least they can do when they don't contribute financially. glad this guy demonstrated exactly who he was from the jump.

[@bluedistortions]

There's nothing wrong with a traditional setup, but you are right that some people jump straight into it without knowing their partner, and it's harder to get free if you don't have a career to fall back on. I think this is why traditional relationships usually had extended courting periods, and having to pass the scrutiny of other friends and family. Those who care about us tend to be more discerning of character because they aren't blinded by hormones.

[@Pragabond]

You're very much so right on the money. I've seen that shit firsthand a hundred times. And yeah being anti-feminist would be saying women have to be whatever you want them to be. If you want to be a home maker and not work and your partner agrees to that then you can in fact still be a whole feminist so long as you think other women shouldn't be forced to adhere to that traditional role. It doesn't meant you have to be ANTI-homemaker to be feminist it just means you understand and respect that women and people in general should be free to fill whatever traditional or non-traditional role they like without being forced into a box. Be whatever you want live however you want so long as you're not hurting anyone or forcing a set standard on others outside of basic decency.

[@thelittlemoonling]

well said!!

[@HadrianGuardiola]

This isnt traditional exclusive. Someone abusive will grab anything and twist it. But you want trad you gotta be trad. Move to a more affordable place and figure stuff out. Or just go half and half and both contribute to everything.

[@paolagracia4876]

I love how emotional stability is an inherently female trait to these kinds of people, but at the same time, women are these crazy hysterical creatures that can’t control their emotions. Which one is it, then?

[@error-try-again-later]

Easy, we're whichever option is most convenient for them at any given time, obviously 💀

[@jamieridley-rw4lp]

Isn't that strange....because not so many moons ago he would have signed his wife up for a lobotomy... over her "emotions" or anything else he decided.

[@nathangaspacio6128]

I think it was a Freudian slip letting her know he's emotionally unstable. Not the only thing Freud studied that could be applied to this guy, he's looking for a mother not a partner.

[@crispcrisp3553]

the 2nd one

[@Ilikebigbuttdandicanborlie]

@@crispcrisp3553 it was a rhetorical question mr. involuntarily celibate 🤣🫵 stupid

[@kierraellis6570]

She's lucky to only had spent one dinner on him and not 10 years in a marriage with kids.

[@Coc_tard]

Charlie should not be talking

[@gooodmorning4526]

Yeah at least he was up front

[@krimson8317]

@@Coc_tard ???

[@Kobo-]

​@krimson8317 Most likely a bot. It's been years, and KZbin still hasn't fixed the bot issue. They don't seem to care 😕

[@bigyo3385]

She sounds selfish ash, make HER house a home, while working on HERSELF, while he takes care of HER. That ain't traditional. That's modern simping that ain't how your great great great grandmother was tf. This shii is acceptable?I always wondered why older men like my uncle's would steer us away from marriage. I'm older now and it makes sense. To what man does this shii sound good?? What does the guy get cause nothing in her response equated to anything other than herself.

[@audioaddict420]

That guy wants a slave not a wife. He wants her to not only do all the house chores, care for the kids, and have to go out and work he wants her doing 3 times the physical labor he does. Disgusting

[@ratmations8306]

ughfhggghhh i guess i wanna be a slave then HOLY FUCK LOL NO MY BAD THIS GUY WANTS AN *ACTUAL* SLAVE IM SO SORRY FOR NOT WATCHING FIRST

[@mtacrdipo7870]

He got this from his forum on Reddit, he must genuinely be tired of being a content creator.

[@LaVaZ000]

Never a content "creator" @@mtacrdipo7870

[@jasperjazzie]

he basically wants a replacement for his mom, and that's super fuckin weird

[@AverageIQInc]

The women also didn’t swear at all She not only cooked him she practically turned him into a three course meal

[@shivurr9714]

my favourite part is the saying of "emotionally stable, takes care of themself, good with kids", then calling them female traits, does he think men are supposed to be aggressive, dirty, and bad with children? i feel like these are the same guys who will unironically call people "fatherless" for doing stuff they dont agree with

[@nymeric5833]

@@FGL_Apex maybe thats because women are pushed into that role more so they have to be more nurturing, or there are more expectations and learning for women around that role, idk though, just a thought.

[@Bandersnatchrjg]

@@FGL_Apex On the one hand I'm sure biologically there are some factors at play but I think the biggest thing here is centuries of gender roles having been enforced. A lot of people just don't know any better bc it's what society has always taught us, and the shitty part is that bc of that, ppl like the dude from the video use it as an excuse to completely push those kinds of roles onto women and expect them to do all the work when it comes to taking care of kids, maintaining the house, etc (works this way for guys too, mind you, with society teaching them they need to be "strong" and "aggressive" and preferably not show too many emotions bc it's feminine, etc..) Not the case for everyone of course but yeah, there's so much conditioning done by society to have made us what we are today tbh

[@Hello-hello-hello456]

​@@FGL_ApexIt's mostly a societal thing, how boys and girls are encouraged to have certain traits (sometimes forced) and gender roles and traditional family structures where the mother raises the children mostly on her own and the father is in there ocassionally. Of course kids will be closer with their mom that way, it doesn't mean 'women are naturally more nurturing' or anything, women are just made to embrace and enhance that side of themselves, and men are made to suppress it.

[@bluechip6596]

​@@Hello-hello-hello456it's not though, it's predominantly biology. Look at the animal kingdom and you see the same thing with nurturing mothers, are you going to tell me that's because of forcing them into gender roles too? Not everything is due to gender roles. Some of our traits are just biologically predetermined.

[@lawrencescales9864]

@@FGL_ApexI’m a guy working with very young kids-pre k-, and have come to believe these roles are completely cultural. I see boys hugging, playing with skirts, plush dolls, dancing, while also enjoying superheroes and trucks. There are girls who like to build, couldn’t care less about taking care of anything, and would rather dress as Spider-Man then a princess. I think you’re missing the point. Women *seem* like they’re more nurturing because that is the role they’re taught to fill. Before this stuff is pushed onto kids, they don’t magically conform to these roles, or even know they exist. They just do whatever they want until someone reinforces or discourages certain behavior.

[@examichelle]

-"I want to provide for a woman who will take care of our family" -"Ok, i want to be provided for and take care of our family" -"How dare you"

[@Nerobyrne]

The really messed up part is, there's plenty of men (myself included) who would love that arrangement, but you can't even do that with a middle-class income in most parts of the developed world. Isn't it so nice that our grandparents and their parents sold our future for a cushy retirement?

[@CannabrannaLammer]

​@Nerobyrne I have this but it didn't come easy. You're so right.

[@Ilive_420]

​@@Nerobyrne Yeah, my bf and I want this too, but with how the inflation is, we won't even be able to afford to have kids.

[@Vic_Chaos_]

@examichelle he's a nitwit. The fact that taking care of a home and raising kids is a full-time job preventing a homemaker from having an "actual" full-time job never crossed this cross-eyed toad's mush brain. Notice he never actually said "I want to provide for a woman (...)".

[@Vic_Chaos_]

@@Nerobyrne what do you mean? Their retirement gets stolen from all the time. What you should be asking is "isn't it so nice that our government sells our country out for illegal aliens who destroy everything and other countries' war efforts?".

[@FlooferLand]

As someone not particularly emotionally-mature, the fact this guy had an opportunity to get together with someone who seems like a great partner only to ruin it by having a meltdown about how he wanted to sit there like a brick on a couch doing nothing is straight up hilarious.

[@deepseatofucreature4204]

I feel like it´s his first time really thinking about how much it costs to have traditional family...he was just having this vision that he doesn´t have to cook and clean anymore :D

[@RoflCannon6]

Which is funny considering how he expected to make so much off his eventual compsci degree. If you’re not going to use that money for expenses and your girl then wtf is that money for? You just gonna hoard that money while your girl works, cleans, and raises the kids? The fuck? From my experience, people like this usually don’t do well in the compsci field. They’re too opinionated and struggle with any new things or changes in a field that is always changing and advancing. These people usually don’t make it passed the trial period if they even make it through the interview. Plus getting that degree will require hard work which the guy doesn’t seem to be interested in doing. The field has become pretty competitive so you’ll definitely want a masters to guarantee a good job and paycheck in compsci. Which is even more hard work.

[@sage1682]

Idk I sit like a brick but I work most days a week and long hours while my gf takes care of our two daughters and cleans

[@Fly_Slo]

Ye this guy is an idiot, I don't have problems w modern women but my preference on Avg is for them to be traditional, the main problem isn't that distinction it's the fact that I feel some 'trad wives' just want to sit on their ass and do nothing and some modern women want to make their life more about their career than a family, I have a problem w both, at least ik a traditional wife will want a family and kids and shit (if a man likes those traits and wants them for it all power to them, but both people in it need to put in work and accept the responsibilities they have within those relationships) , another issue is the modern cost of a relationship which is insane if you really want to have a traditional relationship you should be able to have one not 2 college degrees barely paying a mortgage and not even that only rent nowadays. There should be an option.

[@1845net]

@@sage1682 That's not sitting like a brick, that's working from home, which is not a problem at all.

[@chiefinasmith]

I don’t think buddy knows what a traditional relationship is.

[@Ydjfabscgnmssvnsg]

Clearly not 🤦‍♂️

[@itskitt3237]

The “you up” text after absolutely obliterating any chance he had with her was so silly. I love these awful texts

[@Jestrath]

God you can't make this shit up

[@xkd495]

Thats wild hahahahaha How do these people's brains function.

[@Cerulium]

That was actually crazy

[@Pot_Friend]

It's like he moved away for some time to drop the npc's hostility in some game

[@LadySharpy]

​@@Pot_FriendTHIS IS SO FUCKING TRUE LMFAO, tried to lose aggro xD

[@stonedtowel]

She really handled this with such class, hats off I would have given the same spiteful energy 💀

[@DrGandW]

I was angrier than she let off, this level of abject idiocy is like a matador cape for me

[@Victoria_Huot]

Fr like I would’ve taken advantage of the situation, might as well make him say even crazier shit for fun

[@Lucerine]

I actually dug through the comments on that thread and the 'humiliation' was even worse. He apparently ordered for her and she was allergic to what he ordered on her behalf so she changed it to something she could actually eat. The flags were there from the beginning.

[@Robyn-yc5md]

He ordered for her? That's definitely not a good sign, that seems so rude

[@DeezN00tz99]

Could have told you the flags were there when it was a man demanding a tradwife

[@JustSomeDinosaurPerson]

That is beyond red flag inducing lmao

[@aina3387]

That's a red flag, imo. My fiance is more traditional, but he still knows I have a brain and my own tastebuds.

[@Luhiner]

is it normal now that people share these private details ? i find it super weird and reveals the insecurities of the those who show this stuff

[@ActualGremmlinz]

"Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" goes so hard.

[@pinacolada5911]

I so deeply want to ask him what he’d be contributing to the relationship if he won’t pay for anything, do any housework, cook, or help raise his hypothetical children.

[@CaptainDoomsday]

Well, he has a penis. I think that's his entire case.

[@codynoth4183]

I want the evidence that this wasn't two lesbians playing pretend.

[@fiaalmahira]

​@@codynoth4183GUYS, WE FOUND HIM! HE'S THE GUY FROM THE VIDEO!

[@karithewarlock]

@@codynoth4183do NOT bring us into this. you’re delusional if you think any lesbian would EVER. this has straight man fumbling written all over it 😂😂

[@samraizshoaib585]

​@@codynoth4183And I want evidence that this is infact 2 lesbians playing pretend. You can't just make a claim with no evidence to back it up.

[@theFORZA66]

There is nothing wrong with wanting a traditional relationship. But if you want a tradwife, you need to be a tradhusband. And as a tradhusband your role is to be the provider of the family, which quite literally means you are paying for the entire family, including your wife

[@zammmerjammer]

And it usually means handing over your paycheque to the wife since she's the one in charge of household expenses.

[@CrystalRose1111]

@@zammmerjammeryep lol that’s exactly how my parents were. Dad makes the money, mom pays bills, grocery shops, and does taxes. That shit got old and stale though because that’s not economically feasible for the working class anymore.

[@apolloandwarrior_3229]

​@@CrystalRose1111that's why trad families went out of style the only way to make by nowadays is duel income

[@adambednarek2007]

Another bastard for whom the 1950s sounds like the best decade to live in

[@Drekromancer]

@@adambednarek2007 I mean, the economy was fucking great. I'd love to have the 50's economy along with the modern-day embrace of human diversity. But yeah, most people who wax poetic about that time are waxing poetic about the shitty social values of the time, too.

[@sirnetflix7162]

Wanting a traditional home life is fine. What’s weird is wanting a traditional housewife but then not wanting to provide for her. She didn’t even make a statement about income, he just pulled that out of nowhere

[@thatdude337]

Seriously, the LEAPS this man took just to be shitty to someone he went on ONE date with. I hope he grows tf up, or failing that, women run for the hills at the sight of him.

[@butterflyman33]

take it as a dub because the earlier he exposes himself the more troubles she saved herself from.

[@bruced09]

I read this earlier today too, the way she “humiliated” him at the restaurant was because he ordered something for her without asking, and she told the waiter she was allergic and got something else.

[@Butterflyyyxoxo]

Lmao soooo she paid for it all and he took it upon himself to order her meal. What was she supposed to do eat it anyway and end up at the hospital for an allergic reaction? 💀

[@bruced09]

@@Butterflyyyxoxo I don’t know who paid, just that she didn’t want to eat something she was allergic too lol

[@chappytts5977]

@@bruced09 she said in the texts that she paid. You can see it at 9:49

[@ZuTheComCat]

“You didn’t give yourself anaphylactic shock! You humiliated me!”

[@Pot_Friend]

Him texting her back is like moving away from an npc who's hostile towards you, then coming back and they're totally fine again

[@MagneticPowder]

“I better never see you in this town again!” 10 minutes pass….”oh hello new comer, welcome to our town”

[@McBernes]

LOL he was in a zone too high level for him testing aggro range wearing starter gear.

[@raistlinbracey6710]

bro de aggro'd

[@carlosvsiguejugando3102]

Yeah 😂 Could he be bipolar?

[@valentine00022]

So he wants a 'traditional' woman who will cook, clean the house, care for her looks, be there for his every whims and desires, and do every grueling thing involved in raising kids BUT ALSO to top it off he wants her to have a job to help pay the bills? Jesus Christ, thinking about that schedule makes my head hurt and body ache.

[@sandyn3384]

He wants a woman who gives endless emotional and physical labor to him and the kids, and then also earn money working outside the home, all the while looking like model. Im so glad Im single and never married.

[@Ginger_Sweet]

He doesn’t want a « tradwife » he wants a new mother lol

[@zebnemma]

It's sad that some women(and sometimes men) are in that exact scenario right now. Because their partner didn't show their true colors after they had kids together, and as soon as the kids were born their partner just decided they were not gonna take care of the kid at all. So one of them has to go to work, and take 100% full care of the kid, and sometimes are also expected to do most of the homechores too... While the other "partner" comes home and plays Xbox for hours or watches TV and goes to sleep. Typically when the lazy one is the husband it's because he wants the appearance of being a dependable married man with kids. Married men with kids more often get promotions because it makes them look better in the eyes of colleagues and bosses. We live in a fake world truly where being a straight up liar manipulator is rewarded.

[@サリエリ-q5g]

Yeah that's not traditional, tradionally women don't work in a relationship lol

[@gremlininblue2601]

dude thought Stanford Wives was a documentary lmao

[@hajeralraqaishi7623]

Pretty ironic how he's looking for an "emotionally stable" wife when he throws a tantrum over a text message

[@BlisaBLisa]

pretty sure "emotional stability is a female trait" was a confession from him lmao

[@JitteryJackanape]

Lmao this guy 100% listens to tate and other redpill wannabes. Traditional marriage does not mean gold digger. My mom was a stay at home wife. She literally never stopped working on anything and everything around the home. All the meals being made, house staying clean, up to date on laundry, taking care of the kids and making sure things are done. She was always working on something. This guy is literally insane.

[@ajfergy5569]

@@thotslayer9914lol

[@FungusFindersBeware]

​@@thotslayer9914thats not femism my guy, people against the traditional family are really just angry over nothing.

[@carrionflowers6764]

most men could afford having a wife stay at home back 20+ years ago. now most can't.

[@pussydestroyer69285]

@@carrionflowers6764 yes now men can’t but women still unfortunately pull most of the weight with domestic/house work WHILE also paying bills.. no wonder so many married women are burnt out. I read somewhere (not sure how accurate) that women take on 8 more hours of work after marriage. As in they’re still doing what housewives do..plus they have to work to pay bills

[@thomascromwell6840]

​@@FungusFindersBewareNo, there is actually plenty of feminist writing on the traditional family and how it subjugates women. Women are not paid for their labour, enjoy fewer social connections and are financially dependent on the husband who has historically abused this position. It is not uncommon to see domestic abuse in traditional households and the power rests in the hands of the provider, which despite her labour, is never the woman.

[@qzbnyv]

Extra info from her comments on Reddit: 1. he got drunk on their date 2. SHE paid for their date, because he “forgot his wallet” 3. he snapped at the server to call them over, then proceeded to “order for her” (…i bet he read a book about how men are meant to lead or something), but chose something she’s allergic to (ROFL). then got put out by her having to change her order (guess his little experiment “leading” didn’t go so well lol)

[@fntsygurl3390]

That third thing was from a red pill Podcaster lmao. There's a video where he uses his "wife" as an example and basically treats her like a pet, leading her into the restaurant, ordering for her, making sure she's not looking at other guys just passing by, etc. His main "advice" on being an "alpha" is ordering food for the woman. It's so sad tbh. The guy in this post probably follows red pill podcasts and things of that nature. The girl in this post was saved by the grace of God - or knew during their date and made the most Chad play she could think of to expose this clown.

[@SynthhInHD]

It's from Reddit? Yeah this shit is 100% fake LOL

[@lenatraceroxton1363]

do you have the link??

[@LDub01031994]

Idk if I can believe all of this because that sounds like a terrible first date and I can't fantom why the woman would still be receptive to him as she was at the start of the texts if he already showed this kind of behavior.

[@Jauvajs]

@@LDub01031994 exactly doesnt make sense at all. Most of it is probably made up.

[@darlingdame_x187x]

I'm a career woman who works for a major company and am completely self sufficient and financially independent and I've been called a gold digger for lending one of my exes money and expected him to pay it back, and another one told me I was after his money after I spent $600+ taking care of his monthly household expenses and spent the entire month being a care taker after he had a medical emergency. These dudes really be having the audacity.

[@valentinanunez3708]

it's kind of sad really. These kind of men have been practically trained into assuming that whatever a woman wants is related to the depth of your pockets... So their reflex reaction is that. It kind of reminds me of when very small, tiny animals try to appear bigger when they feel threatened by a bigger animal, ha.

[@nathangaspacio6128]

@@valentinanunez3708 That's how the alpha funnel works I think. The sigma ultra-masculine alpha influencers convince guys that girls are only interested in money, so whenever the losers it works on inevitably fail to sustain a relationship then it must be because girls only care about money. Of course, they can simply fix that problem by buying RedPillManlyMenMan's dropshipping course for $50 a month to gain financial freedom and girls will fall at their feet.

[@karithewarlock]

@@valentinanunez3708thank the alpha males for that one

[@MilkywayWarrior1618]

​@@valentinanunez3708 In your opinion, why are they trained like that?

[@valentinanunez3708]

@@MilkywayWarrior1618 oh just, y'know, the idea that's been popularized that women will only date rich, hot or rich and hot dudes and that if you're neither, you're nothing. I don't really know how to explain it but it feels like men have a hard time figuring out that they can be likeable due to their personality as well. I.e. f you're a very low self-steem dude it's obvious you're gonna think there's an ulterior motive for someone being romantically interested in you-- I mean, isn't it obvious? They clearly want to use you for something, right?

[@RandumBoi]

2:38 i was listening to this while doing some work and when mr. moist changed his entire tonal pattern and volume and started speaking gibberish i jumped a bit

[@NeetiGupta106]

Sameeeeee 😂😂😂😂

[@RandumBoi]

@@NeetiGupta106 💀💀

[@lewlabelle]

Charlie is deep into the hellhole of creepy text message conversations now

[@SussyGabrielOFFICIAL]

I’m super better than Charles

[@quartdude]

NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY KZbin! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯

[@Zuplix]

the bot meeting wtf

[@GR-ej9my]

i farted. ngl kinda proud of myself

[@philosophersmonkeys]

​@@GR-ej9mybrawo

[@michaelmaloskyjr]

He was probably just checking back to see if she was the kind of doormat who would tolerate verbal abuse. The anger that bubbled up so fast means he lumps all women together (confirmed later) and hates them as a group, but looking for one to babysit his insecurities and hostility, while making room for his +1 to the Misery Mixer.

[@shamarclemons7427]

What’s the account that posted it

[@RobbieStacks90]

What's worse - verbal abuse or a girl ignoring your texts? If she gives you her number over the internet, keeps up a decent conversation for a while, and then suddenly stops texting, here's what I want you young fellas to do. Don't panic. Don't send five or six different texts asking her questions. DON'T lose it and start cursing her out. I want you to take a deep breath, put on a nice pair of slacks, and a button down, do internet research using what you know about her, and show up in person. It's as simple as that. We're grown men out here. We're done with the texting games. If you want a girl to respond to you, you have to step up to the plate. Lincoln Hawk taught his son, if you want something in life, you have to take it. Sorry, had to go on that little aside I'm a life coach in addition to being an educator.

[@ruralmetalhead]

@@RobbieStacks90"If a girl is ignoring you, stalk her!" bruh I am hoping so hard that's satire.

[@RobbieStacks90]

@@ruralmetalhead That's hardly stalking. It's called having a 20th century conversation with a young lady.

[@LillyWonka]

@@RobbieStacks90what makes you think she would even want to see you in person if she stopped responding through text? Doesn’t add up, especially if she didn’t ask to see you.

[@user-gn4pk1qd2l]

I love how she never even said anything about him being rich, just being able to take care of all of the expenses and her while she takes care of the home and the kids.

[@yunarkm]

2:39 CAUGHT ME COMPLETELY OUT OF GUARD I'M DYINGGGGGGG LMAO

[@JTthegreat06]

Fr😂💀

[@basilgolightly]

“Hey. You up right now?” Is a perfect cherry on top of this cringe meltdown. The audacity he had to come back after just cursing out that poor woman 💀

[@UTTPCaptain]

DIDNT ASK:MY CONТЕNT = WAY BETTER!!!!!!!😂💀⚡️⚡️😜🪩

[@UTTPCaptain]

DIDNT ASK:MY CONТЕNT = WAY BETTER!!!!!!!😂💀⚡️⚡️😜🪩

[@thisisforvids]

It's always those types of dudes who pull that shit. Anybody sensible knows how to a) avoid misogynistic implosions; b) time their booty calls.

[@nloc1929]

@@thisisforvids Hey. You up right now?

[@snoopy6458]

@@nloc1929Hey. You up right now?

[@no1guy825]

my guy caught a whiff of actual responsibility and just devolved

[@shelby1casey223]

Having a traditional relationship is fine as long as both people agree, but you don't get to pick and choose the parts of a traditional relationship that benefit you. You can't expect one woman to play the traditional housewife, which will consume all of her time, and also expect her to hold down a job. If both parents are working, they both help raise the kid and contribute evenly. Help each other out to be the best parents you can be.

[@cynthiaisako]

100%

[@anastasiaromanov3563]

Yeah, I also want all of the benefits and none of the responsibilities of a traditional relationship but life doesn't work that way 😂😂

[@penginagain]

This

[@ConalRF]

10:53 "Goofball was able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" 🤣

[@PhilomathWizard]

If being emotionally stable and good with kids is an inherently feminine trait, I must've lost the genetic lottery.

[@ahnaflfc369]

Pick me

[@PhilomathWizard]

@@ahnaflfc369 That's not how being a "pick me" works.

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

​@@PhilomathWizardThose types dont know how anything works; they just regurgitate things they hear online for a quick dopamine kick.

[@GmmBeast]

I was just about to comment this 🤣 I realllly don't like babies and children because of my anxiety. I apparently have 0 inherently feminine traits 💀

[@Sienisota]

Same. I really dislike being near children for any length of time. Just don't know how to handle them. Its nothing against children, I just don’t know how to take care of them, and feel no urge to learn beyond basics. If the kid can't tell me what it needs, it shouldn't be left in my care. No "mothering instinct" has ever existed in me.

[@brindleface9316]

If he wants a stay at home wife… that’s literally in the name. She stays at home and contributes to literally keeping the house and children under control. That’s a full time job, especially when it’s asked for. He can’t have a stay at home partner without them actually staying at home.

[@error-try-again-later]

In a truly "trad" household, he'd also have to hand his paycheck over to his wife bc part of her job is managing the home's expenses lmao. I guarantee that would absolutely kill him inside 💀

[@en2336]

this is how they do it in japan! the wife gives her husband an allowance form his paycheck. @@error-try-again-later

[@animequeen78]

@@error-try-again-later Exactly, and contrary to the fantasy dudes like that guy want, tradwives wear the britches in the house.

[@sydalairys6212]

It's insane to me that a lot of men want an equal earning wife who ADDITIONALLY takes care of the kids, and him, and looks perfect while doing it. Like, imagine if the roles were reversed. That's not fair.

[@ameliag.9940]

The funniest part is that when you point it out, they call you a misandrist 😑😑

[@scintellamochi2721]

@@ameliag.9940 sassy man apocalypse is better than the alpha male apocalypse fr

[@ameliag.9940]

@@scintellamochi2721 Like... a himbo apocalypse?

[@scintellamochi2721]

@@ameliag.9940 no, men have just been really sassy lately and its such a better change than them being andrew tate suckers

[@theblazingace3537]

​@@scintellamochi2721If we had more Andrew tates in this world that would also benefit women aswell lmao, yet you want men to be feminine and weak.

[@Someonefreshandclean]

Woman who are married and who experience what he describes, being a trad wife and a working woman end up getting divorced because they are expected to do everything. Those woman describe their situation as being single married woman. It is nice though that she knows this upfront about this guy, she saved herself a lot of headache.

[@hywodena]

It also sets you up for financial abuse. And really any kind of abuse. Because it's a lot harder to leave if you don't have an income. Especially if you haven't worked in say 10 years... Now you have a 10 year gap on your resume. How will you ever support yourself, or kids if you have them? Oh but of course, if you ask for alimony or child support people think you're evil and "stealing" his money. Even though he never would have gotten so far in his career if you weren't supporting him, and you intentionally quit your job just so you could support him. But apparently his money is his and you were just working unpaid for all that time..

[@SocksPropaganda]

I'm glad men enjoy reading these texts, because I don't think you guys understand how common this is for women with any active technological presence. I've been receiving messages like this from internet dudes since I was 9 years old. I remember one of them literally proposed to me through Kik messenger and then had a bipolar manic episode when I laughed at him - all when I was 9 years old.

[@perpetual_suffering1458]

Tbf since men are expected to make the first move 99% of the time, then its only natural that 99% of weird creepy advances are made by men. Its not a man thing its just that men are the ones always making the first move

[@buzzybuzzbee]

​@@perpetual_suffering1458 I understand what you're saying, but I feel like this example was less of an advance and more a grooming attempt

[@mousepat9256]

@@perpetual_suffering1458she was 9…

[@jamieridley-rw4lp]

Did he know you were 9?

[@prettylad5635]

@@jamieridley-rw4lpif they didn’t even know her age they shouldn’t have been asking her to marry them 😂

[@Saif-zf9vb]

Wow. She handled that perfectly. The emotional maturity is just fucking amazing.

[@Ava-nf2qq]

nah i disagree at the end she said “have a good life” which is just stupid. a gross misogynist like him doesn’t deserve that 😂

[@taitia8619]

​@@Ava-nf2qqclearly someone is lacking in emotional maturity

[@shreksmeatballs9435]

​@@Ava-nf2qqit doesn't matter how bad the guy he is, she should be mature for HERSELF. She maintained her own composure and did not let her emotion control her.

[@arch_wyd]

@@Ava-nf2qq grow up lmfao

[@Satan-de1pq]

@@taitia8619I think u misunderstood them 💀

[@skinni_the_P00hBear]

Edit: Woah 1k likes! 💛 As someone whos watched a ton of black and white television, those traditional wives, the Lucille Balls/Donna Reed types who took care of the house top to bottom, and the kids, one thing i always noticed was that the husbands were always seen working, coming in the door from work right when the episode starts, or sitting on a chair smoking a cigar and downing whiskey because they had a long day. THEY WORKED. The wife is taking care of everything else and the husband is providing. You can't just sit at home on Steam all day or trying to make it big on KZbin and Twitch while the wife takes on everything else. A trad wife cant even exist if the trad husband isnt "playing his part". the concept is simple in theory, but it's like some of these dudes are just eliminating the half the equation and still expecting it to work 💀

[@brooklynbornxoxo]

Just adding to what you said: when you watch those old timey shows, you also have to consider that it was a time before automation. There were no machines doing 80% of the work for employees. Those men were ACTUALLY working hard. Men nowadays sit in offices on their asses, take 1 hour lunch breaks, play on their phones half the day, and send a few emails, then wanna go home making demands to their wives as if they worked hard all day. Like, Derek…your heart rate hasn’t elevated ONCE today… Be quiet 😂

[@skinni_the_P00hBear]

@@brooklynbornxoxo I mostly saw the suburban husbands doing office jobs or banking or sales, or farmers if the family lived outside the city. Despite machines doing almost all of those jobs today, that traditional husband can still (may not be as easily) translated over to today's world if men like the one in the video actually wanted to work. Now that women cant afford to stay home unless the family is financially stable, the SAHW/SAHH is a little harder to achieve

[@MrPaxio]

the 50s was a messed up time. why cant it be traditional these days for both parties to pull their weight??

[@skinni_the_P00hBear]

@MrPaxio that's where I was getting at lol. To translate that traditional-ness into today's world it wouldn't be the same or aesthetically pleasing as it was back in the day

[@PeachthePom]

@@MrPaxiois a woman having your kids and taking care of everything in the home not considered “pulling her own weight?” Does she have to pull your weight too?

[@Poussyeater-w5e]

He fumbled the bag when it was literally infront of him, waiting for him to claim it

[@Mutepoet379]

Her biggest mistake was assuming an incel would want a woman to be happy

[@TerrariaGolem]

Facts

[@insensitive919]

How she didn't instantly ghost him when he said the line "be a female" is beyond me. He must be tall.

[@igotwect3174]

@@insensitive919tall??

[@DietDrKelp420]

it’s a skit 😂

[@BourdeoixEterno]

What do you mean?@@DietDrKelp420

[@detrimen]

he clearly just wants to control her, and the moment she expressed a choice of her own he couldn’t handle it

[@detrimen]

@Vuuduu07 ratio

[@niclikescakes]

​@@detrimenDon't engage with the bots, brother. You're making them stronger

[@detrimen]

@@niclikescakes forgive me, it was too easy and I was weak

[@detrimen]

@freerobux49 yes, and not at all an outdated meme

[@im_thewatermelondude8854]

i like how him saying that being emotionally stable and taking care of yourself are inherently female traits implies that those arent inherently male traits

[@bouclechocolat]

They really do tell on themselves, don't they 😂

[@RobbieStacks90]

Men are more inclined to get into fights and enlist in the military while women tend to be extremely delicate and are interested in puppies, kittens, baby photos, crochet, lace curtains, dresses, etc. It's not true in every case, but it holds true for 98% of the American population.

[@AgentOrange96]

I mean to be fair, at least he's living by that. Emotional stability was not shown on his part here and I wouldn't be surprised if he's not taking care of himself either.

[@shadow_of_thoth]

Of course not, it's the woman's job to take care of the man, so he doesn't need to know how to take care of himself. And manly men are supposed to have violent outbursts of rage over small inconveniences at the drop of a hat, so emotional stability isn't for alphas.

[@fetusman2248]

​@@shadow_of_thothpatrick masturbateman

[@kalebbruwer]

He wants: 1. A housewife 2. That covers her own expenses He offers: 1.

[@KevinDiaz2000]

Funny how he frequently brings up being emotionally stable, and yet throws a temper tantrum at the mere IMPLICATION that a woman might be there for his money (in his demented eyes)

[@goomba8170]

Well considering he specifically stated being emotionally stable was an “inherently female trait” it sounds to me that he knows damn well he’s an over emotional trainwreck and is just brushing that off as being a masculine trait

[@Milkman0101]

No no no u misunderstood. By emotionally stable he meant someone who is able to remain calm and dignified, even in the face of constant emotional turmoil. At least he knows the kind of life he’s able to provide for his wife 🤷‍♀️

[@letsreadtextbook1687]

Temper tantrum is definitely inherent male trait, according to him 🤣

[@error-try-again-later]

A lot of redpill/sigma types genuinely seem to believe the only way men can respond to a problem is with full-on bouts of rage lmao

[@tarael86]

That's some seriously mixed signals coming from that man. "I want a woman who will rely on me for economical support" and also "I don't want a woman who wants a man who supports her economically".

[@ジハ-u5k]

He should get a husband

[@MunKiDaY]

@@ジハ-u5kHe should go poly. Get a wife to be subservient and dependent and a husband to protect and support him. Just cover all the bases

[@richogarden]

​@@ジハ-u5knah, gay people dont want him either

[@anakinlowground5515]

And people say women give mixed signals.

[@MMMbutofCOURSE]

not to mention she actually paid for him 🤭

[@thryfted777]

its so odd that he literally found a woman that was ok with pumping out babies and doing chores her whole life and somehow managed to still get mad at her for asking for the bare minimum of being financially stable

[@hildab.h6112]

That's why I stop engaging in a conversation with a guy whenever he mention " I want a traditional wife", it's not wrong to want one but there's always a price for what you want and usually those guys aren't willing to pay for that.

[@DrPonner]

Cuz these kinda guys really just want a sex slave maidservant mommy.

[@osuplaeyurreallygood]

incels when they realize having a traditional wife means she won't work 🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@god-of-war-fan]

@@osuplaeyurreallygood hahaha

[@whalepussy]

@@osuplaeyurreallygoodtaking care of the kids and cleaning and upkeeping the house is work but these males won’t consider it as work

[@Bound4Earth]

A lot of newer relationships share the responsibility of laundry, cleaning the house, taking care of the children and working. He wants all of that but also not to share any of the house work. What a piece of garbage.

[@FidgetyAttic]

ya gotta find it funny that he was asking for no criticism for his preferences in a partner but as soon as she says her preferences that are basically the same as his he just immediately critiques her idk why I just find that whole dynamic really funny

[@goomba8170]

“critiques” is an awfully nice way of putting how he approached this conversation 💀

[@MYNAMEISJOHNMUSTARD]

Honestly good for her that he showed how awful he was right away lmao cuz if he didn’t blow up like that imagine how many more dates they could’ve gone on and how serious they could’ve gotten

[@FidgetyAttic]

@@MYNAMEISJOHNMUSTARD very true

[@FidgetyAttic]

@@goomba8170 yeah it is but my point is still there

[@laydawesome]

I’m a trad wife, I’ve wanted to be from the time I can remember. For starters this man is incredibly wrong for the role of traditional husband; how can you expect to be the leader of a household if you can’t even manage your emotions? Most of these men who think traditional wives are gold diggers that just want to “sit at home” couldn’t run a household with 2-4 kids for more than 2 days. It’s levels deep, but everyone sees it as just cleaning the home. This mystery man would be absolutely horrible to his wife and she would be miserable, one thing I’ve learned as a tradwife is the incredible amount of support you have to give each other because this isn’t an easy path to take. Seems he would provide no emotional support and turn everything around onto his partner, “everything bad is her fault”. Get ahold of yourself dude, humility and understanding.

[@error-try-again-later]

If he thinks trad wives are just "gold diggers" who will spend all his money, _why does he even want one?_ That's the thing I'm struggling to understand the most 😭

[@jamieridley-rw4lp]

​@@error-try-again-laterhe needs someone to clean the skids from his tidy whiteys... cook ...clean... wrangle the fruits of his loins...and provide a wet hole on demand.... while being berated...thrown under the bus and humiliated daily. Sounds dreamy🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@cherry414]

It's so absolutely IGNORANT when people think doing house chores AND watching over kids is as easy as sitting down. I implore these people who think this way to try that kind of life for a week and see how things go for them.

[@AlishaRisenPhoenix]

2-4 kids? This guy couldn't handle one! Trad wife is NOT for the weak!

[@codynoth4183]

That's because this whole text thing was created by two women.

[@CeHee123]

Dude is the epitome of a choosing beggar. Desperate yet picky is never a good combo. Most people would drop him at the mention of trad wife. She was one of the few people who was willing to take up the offer, and he still found a way to butcher it. He wants all the benefits of a family but none of the responsibilities.

[@SussyGabrielOFFICIAL]

I’m super better than Charles

[@iamspenver]

I'm trying not to be rude, bit just for future reference it is spelled epitome. Like I said, I hate doing this, but it is a goofy word. Just trying to help u out, have a great day ❤❤

[@SkylerDK]

Don’t listen to the haters. It’s spelled epidemy and I’ll fight anyone shows me a dictionary with the correct spelling. Edit: NOOO!!! YOU CHANGED IT!!! MY EFFORTS TO DEFEND YOU WERE IN VAIN!!!

[@Jack-q5k8g]

YASSSS MOMMY AHHHH

[@mothichorror446]

Epidemy is spelled correctly, but it's just a synonym for epidemic. The word you want is epitome, otherwise your sentence doesn't mean what you intend it to.

[@LawdyGawd]

Basically he freaked out at the suggestion that she also has expectations of him and that he would also have responsibilities in a relationship like this.

[@caitlinobrien273]

I'm pretty sure that her message at 3:16 saying that she'd be happy to be able to focus on making her house a home, working on herself, and being taken care of without having to worry about money SPECIFICALLY to throw this creep for a loop and remind him that if HE's looking for a tradwife, then HE needs to also be a proper tradhusband too lmao, I love it. Slay queen

[@ericfieldman]

Every day, I'm coming closer to making it second nature to test every potentially problematic but inevitable thing to make it blow up early if it's going to. I'll have to think of my own litmus test for whatever toxicity I'm likely to deal with in my demographic, cause that was some S-tier time saving

[@cptteacosy6158]

​@@ericfieldmanit's a very very clever way of weeding out the toxic ones man, I hope it all goes well!

[@ericfieldman]

@cptteacosy6158 well I'm isolated and mentally unhealthy in a lot of ways that will probably make it a long and tedious climb to find bros to fall back on, so, following the adage, it'll be even longer before I get into that territory, but I'll keep the caution on the backburner. I like a good mind game when it's thought out to where no undeserving targets feel attacked

[@hinasakukimi]

honestly yeah lmao. tactical passive aggression

[@Originalchili]

"Slay queen" will never not be loaded with insane levels of cringe

[@seanclive1599]

i love these videos because it makes me feel less weird by looking at just how deplorable humans can be

[@PuertoRicoforever]

DADDY!

[@SussyGabrielOFFICIAL]

I’m 100% better than Charles 🤣💀

[@bloodywingrich8844]

bro the video just CAME out

[@quartdude]

NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY KZbin! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯

[@ThisGuyDannyyy]

Omg so many bots

[@pixxy979]

even in a traditional relationship, it is still 50/50. There is a big difference between an agreed upon traditional relationship and whatever this loser was expecting.

[@alikazan2330]

Exactly

[@spikediesel2489]

Yeah I don’t know what was this guy thinking

[@Jestrath]

Right. A relationship should always be a partnership. You both contribute and pull your weight

[@Teriiiyakiii]

This guy just wanted a replacement for his mom lmao

[@RobbieStacks90]

How can it be 50/50 when woman came from a small part of man? Maybe you didn't go to Catholic school, but God tells us as much in Genesis. Men shouldn't oppress women, but a woman has no right to yell at her husband or supersede his authority, particularly if he makes the most money in the household.

[@rachelreii5952]

"you're only with me for my money" that alone tells me his mindset he isn't looking for love hes looking for a second mommy

[@Nothing.Nugget]

The way this turned from a relationship that could absolutely work to one that's completely incompatible almost instantaneously is astounding. All because the dude wanted her to basically do everything for him

[@UTTPCaptain]

DIDNT ASK:MY CONТЕNT = WAY BETTER!!!!!!!😂💀⚡️⚡️😜🪩

[@UTTPCaptain]

DIDNT ASK:MY CONТЕNT = WAY BETTER!!!!!!!😂💀⚡️⚡️😜🪩

[@toniotrussardi8126]

he wanted a mother basically

[@Nothing.Nugget]

@@toniotrussardi8126 both figuratively and literally, yes

[@flutterbugs]

@@toniotrussardi8126yeah.. a *stay at home* mother. which would take care of every household need. which is why it’s wild that he could think she could work full time on top of that. he wanted more than just a mother.

[@fefino1411]

I know Charlie is clearly addicted to these convos, but I have such a hard time watching them without shriveling up with cringe. It's a task that warrants unwavering commitment.

[@tash4951]

exactly, i watch quite a lot of these but its so brain-rotting 😭

[@ruralmetalhead]

We're all training to become God's strongest soldier with these

[@BehuraStudio]

Im so used to these its kind of concerning lmfao

[@CoreyandCrew]

​@@ruralmetalheadWhat?!

[@DorkLord69]

I have a hard time watching them because they're boring

[@cho-ws4bf]

My man had a chill women who was into the exact same lifestyle as him, yet fell to pieces when she had the same expectations for him as he had for her. That's some next level fumble right there

[@emma6648]

Nah he just wanted a slave basically

[@goomba8170]

No because he didn’t just expect her to cook the bacon, but to bring it home as well. Classic modern man who wants a trad wife but not the responsibility of a trad husband

[@Jestrath]

Really. He is going to be haunted by this fuck up for a while

[@MisterPyOne]

@@goomba8170 I couldn't afford a trad wife, so I'm not looking for a trad wife. If I could I might. But you also need to be able to fullfil your end of the bargain.

[@apolloandwarrior_3229]

​@@goomba8170I think it's a combo of how genz men are basically all virgins, not to diss them I'm a Virgin too but none of them know how to talk to women or how a health relationship should pan out cause they've never been in one.

[@spookylittlebat]

I knew a guy like this. Had a laundry list of requirements (not just preferences) he was looking for in a partner. When I asked him what he had to offer in return, his answer was… “loyalty”. Just loyalty. He didn’t have a high paying job, nor did he even have his own place, but the cherry on the top was him insisting that he’d want his future wife to sign a prenup so she couldn’t just decide one day she’d prefer alimony over her marriage. Because apparently women just spontaneously do that. According to the bitter divorced men he’d heard of. Nooo, these men hadn’t done anything to push their ex-wives away, they were saints. Unthinkable that might be the case. They were just victims of these women who got bored of marriage and cashed in one day. One requirement on his laundry list was that his partner could never have been engaged before, let alone actually married ‘cause “they’d made their decision”. Tough luck if their partner turned out not to be who they thought… like being abusive. It just demonstrated a lack of loyalty for leaving a relationship like that, of course 🚩🚩🚩

[@anthonym3286]

she handled that so well, the guy was so emotional and she still didnt call him any names or anything

[@Luhiner]

of course if the goal was to publish this on twitter to get some clout

[@DeShyTheHuman]

@@Luhinerher goal was to find a partner. This manchild completely blew it and I’ll say she dodged a whole ass train. He trows a tantrum about this, imagine what happens when he comes home and dinner isn’t cooked yet. Or she refused to have sex with him. He wants control and is willing to throw a huge fit and curse the hell out of someone who is completely innocent in the situation

[@jinxedpenguin]

@@Luhineryou need help

[@Luhiner]

@@DeShyTheHuman why share a private conversation ? i will never understand this childish behavior honestly

[@Luhiner]

@@jinxedpenguin ok doc

[@stephenbane9395]

Imagine her giving you EXACTLY what you ask for, and then getting mad about it. no SHOT this guy is serious

[@xysarenottheprize]

It’s a common theme amongst redpillers. Do exactly as they say and they resent you for it.

[@error-try-again-later]

I think people like him thrive on feeling better than others. If you give them no reason to complain, their "moral fibre" is threatened bc they can't pretend to be a victim anymore, so they'll nitpick the hell out of any perceived flaw.

[@nathangaspacio6128]

@@error-try-again-later Ironic since they call everyone else who has dares critique society a professional victim.

[@wisdomax2891]

its insane that they had a traditional abusive husband yelling at his traditional wife argument before they even got to first base

[@veryverysimplestudios]

“full soiled diaper temper tantrum meltdown” got me cracking up 5:03

[@cakebby18]

So, let me get this straight. This guy threw a whole fit when she offered to pay for half of dinner. Then turns around and calls her a gold digger and "f**k you" for agreeing with him and also wanting a traditional relationship? He's delulu as hell. I'm so happy no one is ever gonna date this guy now 😂

[@Princetonian4eva]

She paid for the whole thing. The “humiliation” was actually her making her own order when he tried to order for her without knowing what she even wanted 😂

[@cakebby18]

@@Princetonian4eva You're right, I made my comment before I heard that part. So wild

[@Shaunshahriar]

Lol

[@becca53444]

As someone who wants to be a traditional stay at home wife one day, it really bothers me that very few men are willing to be traditional husbands. We can’t work a job and take care of the house and kids all at once. That’s literally impossible. You need to get a high-paying job that pays the bills or else you’re not getting a traditional wife. Sorry.

[@aurora8749]

I wanted to be a stay at home Mom. I kept the house very clean and made home cooked meals three times a day but we were young and I was expecting he would grow up and actually help support me and his child. He didn't but he would also physically abuse me any time I tried to work, eventually I got sick of it and said I'm working and there's nothing you can do about it, so I ended up being the sole provider AND the only one who cooked, cleaned, or took care of the kids...now I'm single and there is literally no change in my workload 😢. Sad. He has no idea how good he had it and I would have kept doing it all too if he would have simply treated me with kindness but he couldn't even do that 😂

[@anthonypritchard2798]

men dont want a traditional wife, they just want a subservient wife who will do everything they tell them while the husband does whatever they want

[@xysarenottheprize]

Modern men demanding traditional women is unfortunately a very popular trend right now.

[@jaylin4356]

Honestly I always see dudes complaining about "modern women" but I don't think a lot of them could handle being a traditional husband either.

[@jffry24]

Wrong you’re just lazy, what kind of job would you be doing sitting on your butt all day? Literally there is women who carry their babies while working hard labor all day long in other countries, so it’s not impossible. To make kids dinner and do some laundry. Make them pick up after themselves. It’s not that hard.

[@burgerburger7975]

I literally read this today and so the fact that you are reacting to this is great. This one was WILD. How that dude messed this up is beyond me. Wants a trad wife but doesn't want to be a trad husband. Classic.

[@WolfiiHD]

He is entitled to preferences just as much as she is.

[@babylugi]

@@WolfiiHD true. and everyone is entitled to laugh at and not date him for his preferences

[@blujaebird]

​@@WolfiiHDno one is saying he isn't. But going off on her for wanting the equivalent of what he wants is insane.

[@AprilFl0wer]

@@WolfiiHDwhomp whomp and most women will see that as a red flag 😭😭

[@WolfiiHD]

@@AprilFl0wer you must actually be 13

[@knowest-highest]

Listen no one confident in their sexuality feels threatened if someone doesn't assume they're straight 💀💀💀

[@chloe-b1b8z]

I think it’s also super important to mention that having a trad husband and trad wife relationship where the trad wife does house chores, children chores, groceries, cooking, cleaning, basically everything other than making money is the fact that since the husband is the one who has to bring home the money he also needs to be giving money to the trad wife to spend on herself exactly like how she would if it was a two income, where the labour was split (cooking, cleaning, and childcare). As one does when they make money, one will spend on themselves for fun and for need (like hair cut, clothes and make up) so if the tradhusband expects to not “compensate” the trad wife with things she would be spending on if she had a job then that’s just not thinking the trad wife is doing labour… He has to buy her makeup, clothes, pay for hair appointments, gifts, etc. A trad wife’s job is to cook, clean, children, and more, so it’s labour and when you work, you get compensated so you can live. The trad husband here is expected to take over the cost that would have been shared had the woman have been working as well as what she would have been paying for herself. You gotta pay for her life and treat her like you treat yourself. That’s not being a gold digger, it’s just logical. Labour is labour and the trad wife’s labour “playing” house. Hope that makes sense !

[@dereka5017]

100% agree. This is something a lot of men don't understand when they say they want a traditional wife. What many are actually looking for is a woman who will still fulfill traditionally feminine roles like homemaking and childrearing, but also support herself financially. Well, that's completely inequitable, and such men need a wake-up call. It's a shame, because men and women having those traditional roles is a beautiful thing, and still the most stable form of society we've ever seen. But many men are weaksauce now and many women are shamed for being homemakers. It's sad.

[@whiteobama3032]

This is where incel ideology collapses on itself. They dont want some "liberal blue haird woke girl", but they also dont want to be a "wagie" so their fantasy women is a mother, a cook, a sex slave AND she should work a regular job, makes her own money and is basically completely financially independant. So in general they want the woman to do literally everything, while their role is to be there and bless her with their "alpha" presence. Incels are the exact same as the made up "crazy feminist" women they demonise the most lol.

[@jimbeats3733]

@@dereka5017idk. Speak for yourselves lol I’ve been with my gf since the 10th grade and she enjoys a very traditional relationship, we also both bring together 2 salaries. So idk where this generalization is coming from tbh

[@NihongoWakannai]

​@@dereka5017 "most stable form of society we've seen" Huh? You know there have been massive civilizations in history where women have significant power? A lot of history involved the entire family doing labour and managing the family as one singular unit, not splitting roles between a wage earner and house wife. Not to mention many households would be multi-generational so everyone works together to take care of the family. There's no metric you can really cite to prove your claim. The house wife is just one model of household that works for some people.

[@GoncaloRamos-o6v]

Yeah I seek an arrangement like this. This is how my parents are doing it my dad was able to provide my mom with all those things. Guys who want the best of both worlds piss me off I want to be the type of husband you described but these bums are ruining the trad thing. A big part of being a man is to provide for your family I don't want my future wife to deal with this rat race bullshit Id rather her stay at home and bond with the kids like my mom did I don't mind suffering at a 9 to 5 in that case.

[@zammmerjammer]

"I want the term "gold digger" to include dudes who look for a woman who will do tons of emotional labour for them" -- Erin Rodgers, 2016

[@Benzinilinguine]

​@@Coc_tardhow does he act like this?

[@djixi98]

​@@Coc_tardgenuinely curious about what you could be referring to

[@urip_zukoharjo]

What does the emotional labour mean

[@shay3929]

​@@urip_zukoharjolook it up

[@Angel3x111]

@@urip_zukoharjobasically someone just takes care of them like a mom without providing the same kind of support

[@SmokeDog1871]

This is hilarious, dude basically is just admitting he wants a sex servant and doesnt take into consideration that he would in fact have to cover all of her living expenses

[@AndrewTopG.69420]

He should go to Thailand.

[@impressionare3243]

@@AndrewTopG.69420 He should get himself together not go to another country to bother them too.

[@Steven_Bo1]

He never once said he wanted her to be a stay at home wife… you can be a traditional relationship whilst both parties working. I would know I’m in a traditional relationship and we have a 4 year old. She goes to school while we work. She cooks while I play with our daughter and during the weekend she cleans inside while I do the yard work outside. Perfectly 50/50 whilst being traditional

[@SmipWhip]

@@Steven_Bo1you’re dating a 4 year old? 🤨

[@iinsomniick]

@@SmipWhipbro outed himself

[@COMPTONHamoum]

her statement of your not looking for trad woman your looking for nanny and maid who can pays the bills also was spot on