Heart Machine - Why are we on Patreon?

[@SlippyLegJones]

Being a small dev studio is harder than being a big dev studio. Small devs are the only ones willing to put passion into games so I wish better resources existed for them.

[@JiF28]

The fact that you’ve been a multi project indie studio up to this point is extremely impressive so im glad you guys are making a way to give extra support.

[@yeetedsquirrel9890]

I wish I had more money to be able to help support you guys... you guys are wonderful and deserve every success

[@perfectlymediocre179]

Love to have the opportunity to support you guys 💖

[@mirkalimaricadie160]

Are the rewards in the Patreon structured the way they are so that the Patreon can remain completely outside of your publishing agreement with Arc Games? I notice that everything offered relates to access to what the devs are doing and the devs themselves rather than material digital rewards related to the games you're working on (apart from Beta access, but eh).

[@SentinelRoboguard]

I love Heart Machine games, but anyone know why they went Patreon instead of Kickstarter?

[@riotfist9747]

I cant actively support in this way, but I will be buying two copies of hyper light breaker.

[@shoyoshots]

love the transparency and being upfront, really feels human to human rather than game dev to players. Like many others I loved HLD and I have been following along with what Heart Machines been up to ever since. You guys have not disappointed and I hope to see you guys survive and thrive, you have my support! 🖤⚔

[@GasMaskedFellow]

Much love as always, Heart Machine! We'll always be here for y'all 💙 the game industry man :c

[@raven80wolfx2]

What is wrong with kickstarter and indie gogo? I understand the point of pateron to have monthly updates and money coming in. I want to buy your new game, but I am worried. Solar Ash wasn't great. It's camera is so rough and it takes you out of the experience. You could have updated the game and made it better. Instead it's move on to the next thing. Your game sold poorly and people praise you on having multiple games being made. It makes me more worried because you are scaling up too much with poor sales. Poor quality and your studio might be better focus on making one game the best it can be. You will probably dismiss me on being a hater, but I legit care about the company success. Can you do two games at once while making the quality better? Will Hyper Light Breaker be better than Solar Ash as far as camera and combat go?

[@d00mnoodle24]

My card doesn't work on patreon so i'll just be buying HLB in 3 weeks to support you guys

[@Nyumich]

Seriously, SBI is the talking point of the first two comments about an indie team opening a Patreon ? At this point, you guys are just good for the asylum. Absolutely disgusting, disrespectful towards the Heart Machine team

[@ClearwaterUK]

Unfortunately some Redditors refuse to keep up to date on actual news and sources and just live in their echo chambers

[@DrWellRound]

You should probably be careful with those words. You don’t know what trouble you might get into. Saying things like that, and attacking people only pushes away potential audiences, and it also has a way of picturing your community as well too. So just remember, actions have effects.

[@Nyumich]

@@DrWellRound I'm seriously tired about this behaviour online surrounding things I love like video games/movies. There's almost no genuine discussion about why something works or not. Because SBI is involved to a project or not or how a character looks like, I couldn't care less. I'm not a freaking 10 yo anymore. I just want everyone to do their best even if they can't succeed at the end. Like Alx says in the video, it's an industry driven by passion even with all its flaws. What the f*ck happened, that we let absolute passionless people sh*t all over the people that work in this/these industries? And sorry, but people always being so negative and mean spirited can say/attack whatever/whoever they want? Why should I be the one having to control my behaviour at this point? I understand your concern and I don't disagree but I mean It has been 7years since I first saw this awful behaviour online while staying silent during all this time. If Heart Machine wants to delete my comment I don't mind either, it's their choice! Anyway, I appreciate your comment

[@PyroSpectre11]

​@@Nyumich Totally agree with you here

[@nolram]

@@DrWellRoundTrying to play the “silent masses” trick on an individual doesn’t work. You and the rest of your minority of grifters can go right back into the shadowy corner of saltiness you came from, following every word the toxic failures you treat as prophets say.

[@TeethSkylark]

With the industry awareness things, shouldn't you release those things on youtube to spread awareness? Patreon won't do much for that

[@johndelanie3649]

They wanna spread information but only if you pay to hear about it. As if there aren't a million other devs, videos, and articles discussing the exact same thing. Not a good look.

[@OysterWallace]

So is the gearbox team separate? Are they not funding the game?

[@opalmirage]

gearbox publishing hasn't been attached to the project since june

[@zurkon4550]

You guys are great. Best wishes and I'll definitely support whenever able to!

[@Lumivalkoinen_]

yeah no wont be taking part of this in any way or shape, you worked with a murderer in solar ash people still remember what she did to Alec Holowka

[@VexylObby]

I see that Kilian Eng print back there. 😏 Glad to see you guys still going. Hyper Light Drifter was a huge highlight of my joy of 2014, when I ran into you guys at PAX. I still reference that game, and it's inspirational value. Keep it up, gang!

[@wilson9263]

HM is a small studio, asking politely for support and voicing their concerns about the industry. Everyone complaining about begging for money or some downfall of gaming or some other shit shows how they actually haven't the slightest fucking idea about game development.

[@Kia044]

Ha, no. No one would've bat an eye if it was like that. People are against the hypocricy. HM had proudly thrown in their lot together with SBI, Sarkeesian, Quinn and their woke lot to "appeal to the wider audiences" at the expense of their core paying customer base. And now that the SBI and their ilk are exposed as financial cancer - they come crawling back to normies asking for money.

[@bloomingpain-flower7074]

Sorry, fellas, but don't you have a publisher? Not being toxic but just curious.

[@iguanasandwich28]

If I'm not mistaken, they lost the Gearbox publishing for Hyper Light Breaker and Devolver is involved for Possessors. Annapurna (which no longer exists) published Solar Ash. Finding a publisher for a game is a job on its own and a risky one at that. It's not really an easy task, at all.

[@ClearwaterUK]

@@iguanasandwich28 Gearbox Publishing was renamed to Arc Games, so they technically still are being published by Gearbox

[@jorje6829]

i love your games!! hope you can release the banger game you are making!

[@joshuajennerdev]

Subbed on Patreon 💪HLD is one of my favourite games of all time, and a huge inspiration for me as a game dev today. Best of luck guys!

[@HeartofArcana]

Easy membership. Love your games.

[@panhead537]

And we R so blessed 2 still have U in our lives, Alx, given what you've been through with your heart problem. We love U, man.

[@johndelanie3649]

"We want to spread the word of the problems with the game industry, be more transparent, and reach a wider audience. As such, we will be setting up a system where all that information is paywalled from the public". I would've respected it more if you guys just said you need the money, just admit there's really no benefit to supporting the patreon apart from funding the game, people would be happy to support that, your reasoning comes off as incredibly hypocritical.

[@JWishnov]

It costs time and money to document the process of development, and the primary purpose of this is to help HM fund games. Offering a deeper look into the process is just an additional incentive, and it's from their unique perspective and place in the industry. Your comment is ridiculous.

[@Xamp1256]

@@JWishnov What's ridiculous is the obviously contradictory reason they state for why you should support their Patreon. Like OP said, you don't "spread the word" by paywalling it. I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with a studio trying to fund it's projects via Patreon, but I can't respect this weird, blatantly dishonest spin they put on it.

[@Kia044]

It's ridiculous that you're trying to appeal to your fans after throwing your lot together with SBI, Quinn, Sarkeesian and their ilk. Hope the shills in your comments support you enough to keep the lights on. Although we all know it's not true. RIP Alec Holowka. You deserved better.

[@hasde_fo]

Well, if AAA games cannot provide even better graphics and Indie and mid studios cannot afford to produce something those are pretty sad

[@hem9483]

or, maybe, you're making a game in an already bloated slop genre and nobody's willing to take the risk on a project that would've been conceptually dated if it released a decade ago

[@kokomanation]

I am a big fan of your games.My personal opinion is that you should release your upcoming games in most platforms possible and not exclude consoles because it will mean more profit.Quality must always remain the top priority and you really create great quality artistic games.

[@GameFreak412]

development insight??? OH FUCK YES

[@Phil-Spenser]

Why then pay for Sweet Baby's services?

[@ClearwaterUK]

The devs are no longer working with SBI and declined to include any of their consultation or content in the game

[@DrWellRound]

Well, ESG was the only way to earn money during Covid. workplaces were shut down, stores were closed, and you could probably tell a lot of game development studios didn’t have the best of luck. However, if you were a company like epic games, you could earn money that way, but part machine didn’t really do games with the NFTs in them. So they probably had to because that was considered one of the only ways to earn money during that time. Nowadays, I don’t think that having a consulting company like SBI won’t be that useful to have since it only damages a company’s reputation. I myself would not really trust consultants, unless they’re people who actually give constructive feedback instead of opinions.

[@ninsago4192]

Just say that you want money

[@DrWellRound]

Well, I mean they can’t be too desperate. I mean, just look at a company like FNTASTIC, they were definitely desperate for money when they didn’t just put one, but two kickstart is out for games.

[@Deadsphere]

You know you can just say you're an idiot, right

[@DrWellRound]

@@Deadsphere your actions have an effect you know. Maybe think of something better to say before you comment.

[@shiroanimationxoxo]

Will support you, especially since you have Bloodborne, Nier, and Chainsaw Man figures in the back lol

[@shlovvie]

so you can fund him getting more figurines?

[@spoderman8773]

Maybe get real jobs and do gamedev on the side, like everyone else. You guys made tens of millions from your projects and are now begging people for money.

[@RafaelCabreraAzrael]

Sweet Baby's inc worked in your games, thats a NO BUY for me

[@raph2550]

What is it?

[@DrWellRound]

Well, they haven’t worked on all of HMs games, but I can’t argue with buying or not buying the game.

[@ClearwaterUK]

The devs are no longer working with SBI and declined to include any of their consultation or content in the game

[@Deadsphere]

You know you can just say you're an idiot right

[@DrWellRound]

@@Deadsphere you should probably think before you act, actions have an effect you know.

[@DrWellRound]

if there’s anything I could do for you guys, I would probably help to guide you guys in the right direction of game development. Not like SBI which focuses on forcing politics in video games, but more like a constructive critic understands what the audience and potential audience wants.

[@nolram]

hi grifter

[@AirDur]

Politics exist in Fallout 1 and 2 so it's not a problem

[@DrWellRound]

@ oh I meant political activism. My bad.

[@nolram]

@@DrWellRound How do you differentiate between the two? Whether they agree with you or not?

[@DrWellRound]

@@nolram I could explain it, but I feel like this video gives a better explanationkzbin.info/www/bejne/imHLqn1rqciop6ssi=xF3NACqAOegKuqGf