HEATED: Are White People Too "Fragile?!" | Black & White On The Gray Issues

Steven Crowder hit the streets of Texas in a new segment called "Black & White on the Gray Issues." We had very respectful conversations in part one, however, part two got very heated to say the least. Apparently, these people didn't know that "white fragility" is racist. Tune in.
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[@kidfunkyfri3308]

The whole "micro aggression" thing could also be considered black fragility

[@captainbigos9267]

It is exactly that.

[@lllewis2506]

As a Black American it can be looked as a fear of racist whites however the conversation is about white people being fearful of Black Americans. Stop trying take the heat off

[@pathacker4963]

Absolutely.

[@scarlodonnell3631]

@@lllewis2506 Did you ever think that hyper focusing on skin color, creates racism where there was none before? This is what is happening and it is by design. You are being misled by demonic influence. Seek Jesus and His Word. He can break you free from racist thoughts and teachings…

[@raielle]

​@@lllewis2506you've never met a racist person of any race in your entire life. Victim card: revoked. Stop blaming others for your poor decisions.

[@whitneyfry3236]

The passive aggressiveness of this conversation is astounding. They tell him he’s fragile, call him honey, talk down to him, and they are still somehow the victim.

[@TheScarletSlayer]

That's the power of passive aggressiveness. You get to be mean to people and suffer none of the consequences

[@sutheb345]

these types literally feel more superior then you. oh you poor little racist white man who can't see his own racism, your whiteness blinds you!

[@JungleBook805]

"You can't normally be racist towards white people." "Punching up is not the same as punching down." "Our household is not nuclear because I have my uncle." "We'd still be enslaved if it wasn't for people like you honey." "I don't think our power is the same as a white person." "It's true because I'm a director of marketing and you should automatically say I'm sorry you feel that way." Yikes! These women are like sandpaper. They are extremely abrasive and don't have any interest in having a conversation based on facts.

[@Arturo-Chacon]

Well said

[@fetch33]

Don't forget the 'back up' statement.

[@elisabethd1970]

These women's idea of a productive conversation is, "Shut-up and listen to why you are awful." Charming.

[@sufnskanne469]

Better than how Steven treats his wife

[@noteuser15]

That girl really has the victim arguments down. She’s gonna be miserable if she can’t think for herself.

[@esco0503]

As a black man this hurts to watch, I worked my way up over decades and now have messages and examples to teach my son and if he EVER came with this victim mentality I would lose my mind…..

[@Sincity89103]

They are indoctrinating hate, blows my mind for black people to think they can say the most racist things they want and take zero accountability. The hate coming from these two is almost unbelievable.

[@Sincity89103]

It’s racist unless you come with facts I accept (although I’ll never accept your facts) and prove to me you’re not racist lol She thinks she so smart lol I trained in debating lol

[@samfisher1964]

as an complete outsider I think this child like other children is very suggestible, and from what I see she had no chance to somehow get away and not fall into this trap, she is absolutely the victim of propaganda and brainwashing and not to blame at all,

[@tmass1]

based

[@luthervaughn1]

The little black girl said she's "trained in debate". And the mom says nothing. Neither one of them stated we don't need to be "trained in debate". You just say the truth and if you tell the truth there's no training to be done. It's just what it is. This mom has no control over her kid either. It's weird. She's acting like the mom and telling her mom to shush. lol. Weird. BLACK PRIVILEGE right here. Rich, black wierdo's. Just like the rich white wierdo's and pretending they're different. WTF!?

[@donaldmack2307]

It is insane that they are teaching kids that having a two parent home is racism.

[@angeldip5797]

EVERYTHING is subject to this BS. If it’s not racism it’s classism or ablism. I’ve heard people being encouraged to decondition themselves away from the rules of English grammar bc it’s rooted in colonialism and people who struggle with mastering the language get offended when corrected. 🤦🏿

[@richardsobeck583]

That was insane! She just rejects the facts, and paints a fake reality that hasn't happened!

[@melissaculpepper7663]

@@angeldip5797These people who are so offended belong to satan. Where in this world was it written that life is fair?!?! God says NONE are good and have sinned against Him and are deserving of death! These women/men need to bow before God and seek His forgiveness as they have OFFENDED God Almighty!

[@timothyandrewnielsen]

Jews

[@johnboats9075]

The nuclear family is a white concept. This lady needs to look up linden b Johnsonand what his programs did to black mothers in the 60s. she didn't just drink the kool aide she's choking on it.

[@TriggerTravels]

Soon as she said "my struggle" I was done with her. Shows her mindset immediately "I'm a professional victim"

[@evergrowpaul9943]

The best part for me was when Mon said "oh she will run circles around you" with regard's to debating and knowledge 😂😂😂😂😂

[@247Barcaro]

Yeah, that was the point I started going side eye on them.

[@whitneyfry3236]

I’m white. With curly/wavy hair. The amount of times people have touched my hair or asked is insane. It’s not because you’re black, it’s because it’s different.

[@lllewis2506]

You're ignorant it's absolutely because their black. Black is the opposite of white slowness. Therefore it's different

[@therealR.D.]

I’m white, and my hair is curly when long. When I was young, back in the mullet days, the white girls would walk up behind me and run their fingers through my hair. Now I find out those girls were racist and I’m triggered.

[@kylethedalek]

I know many left wing people who are very intelligent, some support socialism (many different types, and the US has needed with socialist countries many times and have caused them to fail.) I have seen them shut down right wingers many times. And was satisfying. Or on “Q u o r a” many left wing pages debunking the right wing and debates amazing writers and detailed replies and posts. The right is way to far in an echo chamber. Who is bailing out red states? Blue ones… There is many good channels on here exposing the right wing. “Mediastouch” On race issues, why do blacks get harsher sentences for the same crimes? They come from area which were made poor due to racist policies. Why are white people not held responsible for their actions? Society should pay for the wrong doings. On guns watch “Shawn00” he’s more in the middle and wants more reform on guns. He’s not a 2A wacko, 21 to get all guns, lock up all guns, to stop these young idiots shooting up places. Plus the cops are soon going to be complaining they are out gunned by teens. He’s also ok with abortion as long as it’s safe and rare. Why not debate him? Single houses are the same as the nuclear family, the dad works all day and leave the mom with the kids. Like a single parent household. Speech is powerful and should be controlled, you can’t say false alarms like fire in a crowded theatre. It’s immoral. So why allow hate? It has caused suicides. We don’t need hate. He don’t need political groups getting power with hate. Stop it at its roots. So many subjects the right doesn’t get or want to debate.

[@DeathStrikeDemolisher]

​@@lllewis2506N

[@jncon8013]

@@kylethedalekwhat does that have to do with anything lol

[@Halbyrd00]

The fact that this 17yr girl was indoctrinated over the last 10 years to this level is kinda scary.

[@sherryfelch750]

No… not kinda scary it’s petrifying

[@xanderLudahl]

Parents have consequences

[@hunterdavis1663]

Kinda scary? it is really scary.... no one is responsible for anyone it's all blamed on racism and its bullshit!

[@Piggyn]

She said that the nuclear family was a concept of white supremacy... not realizing that blacks used to be married at higher rates than whites. Meanwhile, single motherhood is the biggest issue currently facing black people in the US. She could not have been more wrong, didn't listen to a single thing he said, and rambled on with nothing but woke talking points. Then she talked about how good she is at debating, yet didn't understand why feelings don't beat facts. Good lord...

[@SarcasticPlotRecaps]

She's the good leftist activist the indoctrination camps we used to know as public schools have created over the past two decades 😞

[@leefreemanii2622]

Tiana is the only disney princess who isn’t white? So I guess Mulan, Pocahontas, Jasmine, and Moana were just side characters…

[@phoenixdukes513]

Well Moana and Mulan weren't princesses. But I think she was referring to black princesses when she said that

[@notspooky2338]

“Were you there? Were you there?” “Were you?” Was deadly 😭

[@SirLeDoux]

She can’t run circles around Steven because she’s not stating facts-she’s arguing feelings!

[@rockinHurley777]

Absolutely

[@Piggyn]

I hope she rewatches this, reads some of the comments, and then starts questioning why she is so passionate despite being so ignorant.

[@lenonkitchens7727]

Oh, she's stating facts, it's just those "alternative facts". Seriously though, a lot of people, black or otherwise, react this way when hit with the actual facts, like there's more slaves on Earth right now than ever in recorded history, or that 95% of black slaves were sold into slavery by black Africans, or that a white man was more likely to die of malaria than to go into the interior of Africa to round up their own slaves. I've honestly never heard anybody misguided enough to say that white people bear little to no responsibility for ending the north Atlantic slave trade and abolishing slavery in Britain and the US, though. That part kind of floored me. I'd love to hear the logic behind that, since only 10% of the soldiers that fought in the civil war were black.

[@Aaroncarter95]

I have never heard another person talk so much while saying so little as that young lady did since the last time a politician was asked a series of questions.

[@sethranney]

@@Aaroncarter95if you keep talking until the other person doesn't want to engage anymore, you win right?

[@praised03]

😂 She really wants to say "you can't be racist to white people" without literally saying it.

[@chrisallison9151]

You can’t be racist to white people just like you can’t be classist to a rich person. You can’t say and do things to rich people to hurt them , but they are the ones with the power

[@TheIDuGz]

I think she somewhat said that at one point! Dancing around the words

[@chrisallison9151]

@@TheIDuGzI think she did. Punching up isn’t the same as punching down

[@capoman1]

Yeah this has become the lefty play. Redefining racism (always defined as racial superiority or inferiority) as racial DISCRIMINATION (using race as a basis to degrade someone)... Sorta like how they redefined the word vaccine and the word immunity.

[@bongwaterbojack]

She explicitly did. Lol

[@Chris-qr3ce]

When they said Intent doesn't matter, I knew where this conversation was going.... It's sad. Glad to hear this was the only conversation to go this way, that means the world is a better place than it is displayed as being.

[@jerwur39l94]

Micro agressions are so prevalent she had to ask for examples. She got mad when she realized she made no sense 😂😂

[@distractioneer8425]

Those women didn’t want to have a conversation, they wanted Steven to listen and agree with them. People of color are NOT the only people who went to shitty schools. I still got a 4.0 and went to college. In spite of a lousy school. So I’m sick of people using their skin color for failure.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

3.9 GPA, and I can tell you that all I had to do was spew back the same "white fragility" "white people bad" crap that the profs said. College, especially LibArts degrees, are NOT an education. Learned more working in the fields and trucking as a kid than as a college student.

[@bendover3820]

I rode the short bus to school.

[@SouthoftheHill]

Only victims I see are whites lately because of how the system has been exposed of how much it hates the White race.

[@r2dxhate]

All women in general just want people to listen and agree with them.

[@SmedleyDouwright]

When did white stop being a color?

[@Otakufreak26]

"We cannot clearly see racism so we must find racism in little things." Got it.

[@twistedalicemcgee]

Yes fr

[@calmbro1970]

these black females are so racist its very common way of thinking around the world.

[@calmbro1970]

and the mother is wearing white hair and white lipstick and the daughter is wearing red lipstick.. seems they are struggling deeply with themselves

[@calmbro1970]

and that black mother asked why are whites mass murderers, but the thing is blacks have the highest statistics as being mass murderers if she just looks at the statistics.

[@AdmiringObserverR]

If they described these things as just being in bad taste or had a quick comeback or response that made people realize how dumb their comment was, and did not hear people attaching "racism" to it, people would agree more and not balk when accused or asked to speak differently.

[@elizabeth84266]

“You must be willing to offend others in order to think and speak freely.” -Jordan Peterson

[@jackhandy3776]

I would like to say thx to these two lovely ladies for staying with this interview, I have learnt a lot by watching it, thank you. After watching I have to say I don't believe their logic makes sense, and they did not want to listen, they wanted Steven to bend to the strong believes they held. I hope the daughter continues to learn, as she is very well spoken, and smart for sure . People need to learn that a conversation is that, a conversation, not a me against them fight - leave your feelings out of it, your not there to win and walk away with a trophy, your there to hear another perspective, and then take it with you for some deeper thought. If the deeper thought leads you back to your original stance, then so be it.

[@nathanmielke1977]

I laughed pretty hard when she said white people can be racist against black people and black people can be racist against black people. She doesn't want to give up her victim card.

[@kenyandrama]

Is that Oprah?

[@forgivemylaughter]

@@kenyandramayeah haha she looks like her but much younger

[@igotaheadache718]

She could've simply said ppl can be evil to ppl and we wouldn't have a video over an hour long..😂

[@fisforfriendship6093]

shes implying black people dont have societal power over others. her premise falls apart because that would mean poor white people have more power over the average black person. confusing classism and race consistently into one big mess. honestly her education was wasted in private school its the same thing in public school except she can use a few more vocabulary words

[@TheJustJoe]

Can hwhite people be racist of hwhite people? 😅

[@johnathontodd600]

She was open for the conversation as long as everything she said was fawned over and she was told how right and smart she is 🤦‍♂️ Facts be damned

[@Mark-zk3gu]

I'm open for conversation with anyone who doesn't abuse their wife.

[@fuckinstinkfish]

​@Mark-zk3gu Mean words hurt huh?

[@natem1982]

@@Mark-zk3gu Not giving the car keys to your pregnant hormonal wife who's having a manic episode whilst you yourself are in a bad mood = abusive? is that what we're talking about? the backdoor camera recording of Steven Crowder being a controlling jerk to his pregnant wife yet there is no record of him ever being abusive toward her in a domestic violence way verbal and physically? I have an inkling that you've never been in a relationship and probably still live with your parents. Couples fight and argue all the time. Especially when they are immature adults who committed via physical attraction whilst being chaotically incompatible like Crowder and his Ex yet they never had domestic violence reports and were just toxic/unloving to eachother, That's literally the best outcome for being in a committed relationship like that.

[@Mark-zk3gu]

@@fuckinstinkfish are you apologizing for Crowder's wife abusing butt?

[@mattvsmetaverse]

​@@Mark-zk3gu Hey look!--I found the desperate attention-seeker.

[@saveitforyourown]

I first started hearing this “I can say whatever I want about white people and it’s not racist, because I’m not in a position of power” argument about twenty years ago. It’s just as disgusting now as it was then.

[@chefkaze795]

That mom is what made this conversation bad, I’m Asian and I’ve met a lot of women like her working in retail where the first sign pushback or not getting her way, she starts pulling the race card when she is the real racist

[@shani5345]

As a black woman, I totally agree with you.

[@publicenemynumber1861]

I feel for you as a Mexican American

[@Lonesome__Dove]

Super common. Daily thing

[@brrjohnson8131]

It began in 2008, imho. It was like a switch had been flipped.

[@AverageJoe483]

The whole black disney princess crap is absurd. Growing up Michael Jordan was a hero of mine . I never thought to myself “he is black!”. I just thought he worked hard, a great leader, and a winner ! “I want to be like that ! “ so it is in fact racist in my opinion to say you NEED a person of color as a leader or in film. That shows you are looking for race and not character.

[@bigboss-yv2nr]

Lol Danny glover is predator 2 was my idol I wanted to be just like Harrigan

[@hamsandwich6685]

I never thought about it but yeah, I also despite being a little white kid at the time that space jam came out really liked Michael Jordan and it was for the reasons you said.

[@CEB2023]

Ikr… mulan, jasmine, poccohantas are all not white 😂

[@hamsandwich6685]

Specifically the scene in space jam when young Michael Jordan was playing basketball in the yard late into the night, just practicing, and he says to his dad that he dreams to be one of the greats.. After that, I played a lot more basketball and was very inspired. It's also made me aware how uninspiring all the movies and shows are now by comparison to that scene.

[@jojosymonette3163]

I doubt any young kid is noticing their skin color unless taught. They see a princess with shiny objects that sing.

[@DsChelI]

Love hearing her regurgitate what she’s been learning at school.

[@saraleahtan]

Way to go Steven! 🎉 Always so gracious and grounded in the way you engage in discussions no matter how difficult the persons you speak to may be. You are truly inspiring.

[@justmyopinions-godbless3570]

I'm a Black woman and I am not a victim; I am an American. The mom touches Crowder's shoulder, then says step back, I feel uncomfortable. The mother was aggressive and defensive. Glad there was some common ground.

[@republitarian484]

Well. . you're probably a Conservative so you will most likely tend to have more white characteristics in your personality, behavior, way of thinking, etc. Much like Candace Owens.

[@remyllebeau77]

There are plenty of black victims.... of black crime and abortion. After all most crime is intraracial not interracial. I would also say there are plenty of black victims of the democrat plantation of the mind. It frustrates me that most black people vote for democrats, when they are the ones trying to disarm everyone, and if you live in a big city or an area run by democrats, you need self-defense the most.

[@NewlyAwakened]

I'm glad that I watched all the way through to the end and I agree that they did end it on a good note and I'm glad they gave it a second chance with him to at least hear him out on one or two of his points

[@MikeJones69696]

Sensitive people want you to walk on egg shells cause their feelings may get hurt... no way 😂

[@MikeJones69696]

And isn't it funny that the mom says it's white Privilege for the white man to call a black person a racist.. So would that make her race the only race to have the privilege to call someone racist 🤔.

[@HarveyTAS]

Crowders ability to stay calm and focused when confronted with outright racial hostility is incredible.

[@resellsthings]

had lots of practice with that lady he was married to

[@benjaminnanney1446]

Debate isn't supposed to involve emotion

[@HarveyTAS]

@@benjaminnanney1446 Yeah but that's where I fail. I can't help losing my crap when people spout absolute brain dead drivel, then act like they cured cancer.

[@SIKE01]

Alpha Male 101

[@brnt1035]

This is the ideal outcome of our current educational system. She is obsessed with the idea she is a victim and that is her power. What a sad life she must lead. This stuff can't keep up. If it does America is done. Black, White, Brown, and everyone in between will suffer.

[@ryanhodell9663]

"He's not going to listen to that, he only listens to facts".... yup, sticking to the facts Steven!

[@themajorminorities]

YOU MR CROWDER HAVE A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY TO HOLD YOUR COMPOSURE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS. I applaud that you and was able to continue the convo. I try to have these discussions but I have a hard time controlling my emotions with all the knowledge I have that’s contrary to my black peers. Blessings 💪🏽

[@pinkribbonskies5731]

Fragile is when you call racism at everything that gets in your way.

[@johnmadsen37]

Yup. Hyper sensitivity. This is nothing new. Just a new remedial name for something already existing. And it’s on the individual level though can be more evident in culture. Plus, women are mostly very dim witted saying this crap.

[@collincutler4992]

This is an insanely weak parent. She had to bring her child over to explain how the world has hurt her because she hasnt been properly propagandized. Its sad...really. Its also funny how she thinks white people have all the power"...if she thinks that, Ill offer her a challenge.....i get to say 1 word and she gets to say 1 word, and lets see who get cancelled 1st. Thats who has the power....the ones you cannot criticize

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

She claims that white people have all the power,but why is it that Oprah Winfrey's property in Maui was virtually UNTOUCHED by the wildfires?

[@kamarwashington]

Do be shy. Go ahead. Say it😂

[@collincutler4992]

@@kamarwashington know why that's your answer? Because you know what will happen, therefore proves my point perfectly.

[@kamarwashington]

@@collincutler4992 I don’t disagree with you. I’m just teasing. I think more people need to be willing to say the taboo for any change to actually happen. Succumbing to the fear only emboldens these individuals more

[@clittle1559]

​@@kamarwashington the problem is no one cares to

[@MagnusSentDooM]

These types of debates/conversations are why I started watching your content, mainly the "change my mind" series but it's what we need. Not a fan of the mud club show though😂. Loving this series.

[@aaronruiz7060]

As a Mexican-American, I know what the issue is, and the issue is politics, they like to point the finger at certain Races for certain issues and sit back and watch everybody hate each other, When they started the whole problem😂 For Example immigration, the Government blames them for crimes here in america when they have an open border that allows criminals into the country? Now everywhere i go people look at me like i dont belong….. Fix The Border!

[@LorenzoJ0]

I love how this girl/woman tried to make it fine for black people to do things that white people do while condemning white people for doing the same thing 😅 Edit: They came into this with pre judgment and prejudices. There's no conversion with these types of people.

[@Patrickf5087]

Red flag "Micro aggressions" I stopped listening after that

[@bretbuckley704]

@@Patrickf5087 "Micro-aggressions" is just a buzzword way of saying "first world problems I made up in my head and things I'm told to be mad at but I don't even know why I'm mad"

[@r2dxhate]

I got in heated arguments about this like 6 years ago on facebook. Apparently public schools in several states recently tried to redefine racism to only mean "racial oppression". So by their definition, racism only goes one way, and it's impossible for them to be racist. I can't tell if this is a genuine grassroots sentiment from some misguided souls, or some kind of psyop.

[@AB-ez4rm]

They are your classic brainwashed members of the (D) plantation.

[@TommyGunz327]

They are unfit to live in a civilized society. They prove it over and over again millions of times each year. It’s actually sad.

[@anthooktt1403]

they are beyond racist, small minded and mother is rude as hell.. Steven staying calm with her is amazing

[@captainbigos9267]

Just shows you how bad even the "good ones" are.

[@NicofTime...]

Calm down, the mom is dumb and the girl is brainwashed

[@mcthunderstick2374]

Yeah, not to mention her brat child constantly interrupting her mother. Have a conversation but learns some manners holy.

[@Skankhunt-hl9zj]

@@mcthunderstick2374she actually did the right thing she was trying to have the debate but the mom kept interrupting and saying ignorant stuff when her daughter was losing

[@BlackMarq20]

“It didn’t start out that way, you made me feel that way” and there it is… emotional damage

[@TS-yd6cn]

I found this interesting and appreciate both women's involvement. Good chat, regardless of obstacles. Thanks.

[@braddavis419]

She is so used to people saying “oh my god you are so smart and right “ yet she’s unfortunately so misinformed.

[@exloaded]

Although I agree with her being severely misinformed, I still think she's a very intelligent young person. Unfortunately she's is part of the problem with racism in our country.

[@TheSupaboy6]

​@@exloadedintelligence and being educated are separate things especially in today's world. For the most part to be educated means to be indoctrinated

[@exloaded]

@@TheSupaboy6 absolutely, couldn't have said it better.

[@danieldenton5721]

How does she not know that only 5% of people owned sl@ves in America. She act like it was every single W person. The irony is the people that owned them are the party she most likely votes for. She even told Steven that if it were up to him they would still be sl@ves.

[@redrocket8062]

​@@exloadedit's crazy how emotion just overrides the logic side of her brain so quickly

[@mizzobjectiveone3819]

There is black fragility. It is when there are toxic cultural traits are apparent within black culture but instead of acknowledging them as culturally toxic to the point of it being noticeable, people accuse others of racism for associating those traits with black people.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

Yeah. I am white, but I have ever only heard all the "hair" insults these women point out come from the African American community, not outsiders.

[@jenniferdeguzman1172]

​@samuelzuleger5134 exactly. Bonnets and braids is now cultural appropriation when historically that is inaccurate. I'm married to an Asian/Pacific Islander with long hair. It's curly and silky at the same time. 53:32 The amount of women that want to touch his hair is incredible.

[@loriwyoming835]

@@jenniferdeguzman1172 My youngest was the same way. His hair was so blond and fine it was white. I don't know how many Mexican workers and their wives there were that would just reach out and almost pet him. I didn't think anything other than curiosity was involved. Of course he was a spunky little 4 year old boy and always gave them the dirty eye for doing it. LOL

[@jenniferdeguzman1172]

@@loriwyoming835 the amount of women that have asked him if they can buy his hair (mostly African American)is insane. His sister has the most beautiful hair I've ever seen. Perfect curls, dark with these gorgeous copper highlights naturally, long.

[@canihave1dab724]

@@samuelzuleger5134I get hair insults all the time but that’s cuz I’m bald 😂

[@limitslines9896]

These convos are so fascinating, I love though how civil they can be

[@m.k.outlaw3198]

glad that this kind of conversation is rare and just shows how not to talk with each other. And i must say you can clearly hear how the Daughter repeats things she sucked up like a sponge without thinking them over for herself, and mom out of her pride and Mother instinct( that i truly respect), goes into protect mode and can not listen anymore to things that are logical. But as we see on this platform, most people can have a normal talk about all topics with different opinnions. problem is, when you let your emotions/feelings get in the way

[@blairbush89]

As a Black man I am embarrassed that this Black woman and Child are holding on to Victim Mentality.

[@TheCondescendingRedditor]

the thing is they comes from generations of middle class families too lol

[@rilentkiller]

The child had better talking points. You also have to take into account how old the mom is. With a 17yro, she's probably in her late 40s or early 50s. So she grew up in the 70s and her parents grew up in the 50s. She needs therapy for that hurt. I mean they bombed and and sank entire cities from the 50s to the 70s.

[@benjaminhowell4427]

They are victims. Of ideology and such.

[@gram.]

Nah, we just need to remember these types shout the loudest. Don't let those in power separate us, they want us divided and to reduce each other to our skin/race. We should all help each other and work together so we can all get the same things we all want. Best wishes my friend 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🤍🇺🇸

[@enriqueaguilar422]

The daughter is actually very smart it’s just she’s blindly getting led because of her mother and probably exposed to leftist propaganda. If she got away from her mother and leftist I bet she can filter out all the BS they fed her .

[@sidneycoakley3992]

As a black person, I 100% agree that this victim mentality has to go out the window. We are more free that we have ever been let’s not point any more fingers because everything is in our hands now and honestly the privileges we have now are unmatched! Good job Crowder for you patience and maturity against their ignorance

[@SquirtlePower809]

God bless you TRULY! Because, I kid you not-- we were so close to racial harmony in the late 90s early 2000s when we were all believing in being "color blind and just treating people as humans! But from 2015 on we moved to HYPER RACIALISM where literally everything must be about race all the time. It has done more damage and set us back 50 years ago. Really it breaks my heart, because I LOVE ALL people regardless of their race. In fact, I love a lot about black culture (grew up listening to jazz, hip-hop, r&b, my favorite movies were about black characters, and poetry was my fave like Patricia Smith and angelou) I just can't stand how divided this has made us.

[@NautilusGuitars]

@@SquirtlePower809 You're saying exactly what I say and idk how more people don't see this. I grew up in a black house with the same exact musical and artistic interest as you, at the exact same time. We all told racial jokes and poked fun at each other too. Nobody ever got offended because it proved how inconsequential it was. We were united and were sharing our cultures and respecting others because their respected our. And now we're back to the 1950s because of how badly people exaggerated and hypersensitized these things. It's shameful.

[@petermcgraw2957]

it just sucks because black people are usually better at alot of shit than other categories lol I think encouragement, discipline and guidance is all is needed

[@andrew2393]

The victim mentality doesn't look good on anyone. If you go your whole life saying the reason you can't accomplish what you want to accomplish is because of someone, people are going to feel sorry for you and look down on you. No matter what the reasoning is.

[@danieldenton5721]

​@@TransparentOperatingModeWhat freedoms do they not have?

[@D0ses]

this hurt my brain but im also glad they were able to continue the convo n reel it back, even if no one in this convo grew from this, i did observing it

[@user-jm4oq5nl9w]

"It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance." - Thomas Sowell

[@Xthfollow]

These women can gaslight like hell. "this is not a great conversation" says the lady making it horrible and losing badly.

[@terryboyer1342]

"this is not a great conversation" Not great for her. She lost the argument terribly.

[@overcomingobstaclescreates1695]

When she said "I didn't start out that way..." I KNEW she was gonna finish it with "YOU MADE ME feel that way". Lady was soooo threatened by his simply standing there and listening and not getting mad or aggressive when he was constantly interrupted and couldn't finish a SINGLE darn sentence! How dare he!!!??!!! STG this woman has watched Hirono and Waters on the congress floor too many times - that gaslighting was straight outta their playbooks!

[@Renzov12]

Imagine what her husband has to deal with

[@clottadams5028]

The tired "can I touch your hair" BS. No one wants to touch those hair extensions she bought at the beauty supply store. I doubt anyone talks to her ever.

[@scottscholl3751]

As soon as I heard "micro aggression" I knew what was going to follow was about to be professional victimhood....

[@UtdG01]

It comes with the territory, as soon as someone uses those buzzwords you know a bunch of bs is about to follow...

[@mp5249]

Unfortunately this isn't just from home, this crap comes from school. White man bad.

[@shellyvonschtupp8618]

They get irrationally furious when the victimhood gets challenged. Wanna see a black American go nuts? Tell them slavery wasn’t as bad as they were taught it was. I would suggest not doing it in person however……. Low impulse control is real.

[@nadedjadannevik6272]

I'm a black woman, used to be a liberal and now I'm a conservative. White women used to show "micro aggressions" toward me when I was a liberal and I would just ignore it. Now if they say something about my hair for example I just throw a "micro aggression" back at them about wrinkles and botox. That usually shuts them up and they move on. Being a conservative toughens you up and teaches you not to give a f-.

[@iroastpeoplenotmeat8671]

why do black women feel white people's cannot genuinely like something about them that's sad and black fragility am black btw

[@armancius]

She failed as a human. She failed as a person. She failed as a parent.

[@TheEverydayPreacher]

Steven has grown so patient over the years. You win more bees with honey and I hope this family is able to receive this conversation with love rather than hate. Blessings.

[@Tagapamayapa]

Floors me when people say “let me finish” but never let’s the other person finish

[@davidwagner5583]

“Is there a certain point where it’s not someone else’s fault” I’m glad you called her out on that. She has been living as a victim for so long

[@chrisallison9151]

228 years and when does the perpetrator take acceptance

[@randymarsh3106]

@@chrisallison9151 228 years, and me nor you have owned slaves. Take responsibility for your own actions. stop with this brainwashed indoctrination.

[@choprox01]

exactly!!!!!!

[@oakson3045]

@@chrisallison9151 Europeans are the only people that have ended slavery. If you'd like to buy a slave right now you're able to buy them all across the world, just not in a White country.

[@naby214]

⁠​⁠@@chrisallison9151Perpetrators of what exactly? Are you referring to the distant ancestors of the 5% of white White Americans that owned slaves? Or are you including the 90 plus % of white people who had nothing to do with slavery, many of which fought and died to help end it? Are you referring to the the democrat party which instituted Jim Crow and the KKK? Just make sure you’re expecting “acceptance” from the correct “perpetrators.” Assuming it’s all white people is not only historically inaccurate but, well… racist.

[@VengeWarlock_Gaming]

Mom: "my daughter can run circles around you" Steven: "im waiting for it" 😂😂😂

[@christinal.5804]

😊RIGHT😊

[@Quickesttongueever]

Because she talks so much so fast

[@GodDragonLich]

@@Quickesttongueeverand says nothing.

[@wlknonsonshine]

​@@GodDragonLichword salad

[@SarcasticPlotRecaps]

They were both just so arrogant and stubborn and ultimately ignorant because of it. Years of indoctrination has made then Marxist soldiers abd useful idiots to the regime.

[@larsonjohnson2106]

In central Jersey where I live what Steven was talking about at the end with choosing your school is implemented. You can choose any of I think it’s 6 high schools you just have to take a certain class and it’s works really well.

[@lifeoflennie2443]

" she's good at this ".... Indeed. She knows all the words. Gold star in class tomorrow.

[@kmazz3666]

It's sad that they don't see how they are keeping racism alive... As soon as he started speaking facts, they didn't want to hear it. Some people just like being the victim....

[@silvermine2033]

Decades of brainwashing.

[@napaquatics3639]

Lol like " we can't speak for what every black guys said to you today" ummm so you're literally the problem when your views were outnumbered by your own " people"

[@AntiwhitismIsJealousy]

They do realize it actually. That's the whole point

[@cman5461]

These two are basically white liberals lol. They are some of the most privileged people you can come across.

[@thatsmynamesowhat2949]

As soon as he starts speaking facts, she started appealing to emotions.

[@austinbutterfield5276]

And she thinks that she doesn’t have a nuclear family because she can go and stay at night at her uncles house? That doesn’t mean you are raised in a community, that means you’re raised in a nuclear household and maybe you have relatives lmao😂

[@christinal.5804]

😂😂😂

[@horsracing]

Also stating that the nuclear family is a "white thing", when really her feelings are a very small outlier in comparison to the vast majority of the earth being a nuclear-type family.

[@bluetooth2677]

She acting like white people don't do that was odd. My aunt or uncle's would take care of me if my parents passed away.

[@oldmanyoung7892]

which is at the same time helping to keep that environment of a nuclear fam intact for that child n not replacing it w a village wutduh!!??

[@lecoeur1231]

Hear hear

[@xRelient]

I'll give kudos to the mom for calming down and coming back to the table to hear Steven. a lot of people who lean left get to a point of emotionalness and refuse to listen, we do not have to agree always but we have to come to the point of being able to listen, otherwise clarification cannot happen and true understand will be lost. The mom spoke from the heart and genuinely heard his reply and that allowed for the conversation to continue in a more positive manner.

[@jacobpresley6161]

Her definition of racism upsets me. According to the Webster dictionary Racism is a BELIEF that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

[@michaelbell9037]

Two examples of why we'll never be rid of racism. This victim mentality is shameful and needs to stop

[@michaeltruly3260]

They've been indoctrinated by their party to have a victim mindset. They are in a sunken place working on the plantation and can't get out.

[@WhatTheWHAT524]

I agree COMPLETELY.

[@RM-lk1so]

Victim. Some one else's fault

[@ILOVEBACONBOY2018]

As long as we have blacks there will be racism, they will never let it go and think they will always be entitled and owed something, blacks are ruining America.

[@CrystalMannequins]

It’s everyone. Steven crowder himself turns himself and all white people into victims of racism everyday. That’s the whole conservative platform the past few years. It’s only going to get worse from here for everyone cuz no one is willing to give up their victim complex. Like conservative Christian’s now a days now do

[@propernvr3611]

if she talks fast enough she can't hear her own BS

[@stepheniddon1482]

They couldn't handle Steven challenging them. They were rude and aggressive when it could have been civil and a good conversation.

[@DeadBeatDex]

"Trained in debating" my ass. It's more like she's never actually allowed for anyone else to speak up. Not once did she or her mom let Steven just talk and allow him to explain himself or his opinions. They hear one small thing that they don't like and all of a sudden it's their turn to talk. This was no debate, this was just 2 black women not wanting to hear what a white man has to say about black people? As a person of color, it always saddens me to see the "I'm not white so I can't possibly be racist" mindset that so many other people of color have.

[@garrett892]

I like how she tries to change the definition of racism to make it seem like people of color can't be racist. Its the "always someone else's fault" mentality.

[@chrisallison9151]

People of color can’t be racist because they don’t have control of peoples lives. Let me ask you this could a black person be racist 100 years ago

[@mendelson6052]

Lots of definitions are being changed these days… 😐

[@twistedalicemcgee]

She said blacks could be racist against blacks

[@megasenpai9838]

​@@twistedalicemcgeeYet does her own definition of racism make it a valid excuse to be racist towards other races of people?

[@twistedalicemcgee]

@@megasenpai9838 nah

[@SincereDoper]

I saw a lot of fragility in this video, none of it coming from any white people though.

[@asdii2210]

I’ll say this: shoutout to these two for not just escalating the whole time. This turned around somewhat and was honestly a conversation that showed people completely opposed can find some amount of common ground. People need to talk calmly.

[@4TheFellas]

How is it possible that these two ladies cannot stop talking over each other and Crowder.... it's a lesson that you lived in kindergarten to allow the person you're speaking to to also speak

[@tokemjuju8250]

that was funny the mom thought her daughter at 17 could run circles around Crowder. When she does not even realize he is being so so so very nice and easy on her and if he really wanted to dig in and completely tear her arguments apart it would take 2 seconds

[@captainbigos9267]

If he did that, then we would see some proper fragility.

[@ilikemike65]

He’s just allowing her to show her ass. 😂😂😂

[@Baconbeater]

@@captainbigos9267 he’d be racist if he did that

[@jenningswb]

Props to the young woman for recognizing the poor attitude from her mama and calling it out.

[@remyllebeau77]

Unless it was just so they wouldn't look bad on camera.

[@jenningswb]

@@remyllebeau77 I would agree though, that’s likely why it was done.

[@michaelbread5906]

Regardless of if there's a camera, I'll let my parents know if they're embarrassing me haha.

[@aliamjon2550]

I give her nothing, her beliefs are reprehensible

[@aliamjon2550]

@@michaelbread5906 the mother and daughter had the same beliefs, the daughter was more sneaky about how she verbalized them

[@tombrady3086]

The black lady in the hat has some very strange points of view and doesn’t back them up with logic. She thinks a lot of her daughter, which is nice, if a little misguided.

[@zakpike4582]

Wow you gotta call out KZbin i know i was subscribed and i just had to search you up because i was like wait theres no way you haven't made a video in 6 months and i had to resubscribe

[@Kamology_]

Damn the whole “actually 2 parent households are anti black because we’re built different” is a new one I actually hadn’t heard lol. That’s wild

[@MrGenedancingmachine]

They couch all their failures in academic gobbledegook, they're like scuzzy lawyers that are tasked with defending the indefensible

[@rasmusnilsson123]

Yeah like wtf. Be my guest to be a 4 parent household? Or what. She made it sound like there is a law having a 2 parent household, with racist intent😅😅😅

[@missym4167]

I think that's a way to shake away accountability for the real problems that's plaguing the black community. It's easier to "blame the White Man" and "blame racism" for your own personal failures

[@tokemjuju8250]

she is so very racist and does not even realize she is super duper racist, but this is what school systems have taught them... sad

[@mp5249]

Don't think private schools aren't as compromised as public schools.

[@ghostofgarycoleman5251]

This is what they teach each other. The school system is just an added bonus.

[@GamerWordDotNet]

Being racist is perfectly normal and healthy. The issue isn't racism - the issue is white people unwilling to stick up for themselves based on race.

[@ACryin_Shame]

​@@mp5249private schools were woke before public schools were

[@matthewsinclair507]

I like how you said super duper, we need to bring that back!

[@concernedcit3376]

Voluntarily participate in interview on public sidewalk and then demand that all recordings be retracted and now we post decline this interview after we agreed and no longer consent to what we initially consented to. Glad they found some common ground in the end.....

[@redeyeconstrutioninc930]

She's finding reasons To be a victim or to feel challenged

[@cfish3865]

If they want to be called African American I want to be called European American damnit!

[@lllewis2506]

We don't want to be called African American. We are tri racial group it doesn't reflect who we are. Real African Americans are individuals like former president Barack Obama. He is an African whose families immigrated to the United States

[@elainescrochetkorner]

And me German American.

[@gregorymceaddy8884]

And me Scottie

[@slavplaysgames]

traitor@@elainescrochetkorner

[@gregorymceaddy8884]

Screw these victims...grow up ,the only microgression is that black men get your stupid ass with child and leave

[@lieutenantmikeo5979]

As a black man i respect the honest and professional interview. The black community has a problem with accountability. Its hard to hold a conversation with people that are indoctrinated and won't consider another prospective.

[@jonathananderson7990]

"micro-aggressions" Is the largest under-estimation of your piers or others I've ever encountered. It's an out right created vocabulary of saying my pier is far more ignorant than I... It's saying that the vast majority of people are unable to use self investigative thinking, empathy or imagination. We all feel like race is a beaten drum because we want a closed case, a format for an ending... there will never be one. "We", no matter the race will always be culturally different, same with being different at all. Treating people differently because of those differences is what we are aiming to do realistically... It will also never be perfect but we can get as close as possible and we are close.

[@Q_N-]

Bruh, the part that annoyed me was when she brought the Asian race into the picture. Saying my race is somehow “forgiven” by her for our reaction to certain people. This chick is nuts. And if there are more like her, I’m not going to let the government take away my guns. 🤷‍♂️

[@jgilbert8432]

There is a saying I heard the other day: "It is hard to win a debate with an intelligent person, but it is virtually impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." Im black also, and I dont waste my time debating with other blacks who are psych-opped with the Woke, victimhood, white boogeyman, racist mentality. I cant cast pearls to swine and God already warned me in a dream not to engage because its a waste of time and can become dangerous with certain people.

[@tylerprince5532]

Only black Americans. One of the most privileged groups in the world and also the biggest “victims.”

[@7Beanss]

Y'all don't just have an accountability issue, you have an intelligence issue.

[@rachaelgerkensmeyer2244]

Thank you for continuing your effort with those beautiful ladies. It was worth it!

[@stevenkorten1986]

I dont always agree with crowder, but you have to respect the brass balls hes got to go out and have these conversations. We need more people like this

[@microsoftpain]

9:18 Look at that level of projection. She openly says that "literally almost everybody in America" is racist. To people with her mindset, you're not allowed to NOT be racist, because then that is somehow racist.

[@skillfuldabest]

well, human beings are inherently tribal. It all comes down what you think is the definition of racism. Everybody has their in-group.

[@Patrickf5087]

​@skillfuldabest yea we have regressed as a society. We are aiming to be 1 tribe IE American. But government and money race baiting groups have worked hard to widen the divide

[@angelgering2501]

This was a demonstration of black fragility.

[@SarcasticPlotRecaps]

And microaggressions too, given neither can make a simple point without all that hand slapping and fist smacking in Steven's face. All these people do is project onto white peoole what they themselves do.

[@tinajbrown1867]

100%!

[@Dragu84]

Yup!

[@Hovis_Enjoyer]

Throwing that back the other way doesnt help anyone move forward

[@brianwhitaker2357]

It's staggering to me at the 44 minute mark when the mom talks about volunteering in the inner cities and a kid telling her he didn't know college was an option and that it's not okay to smoke weed, her outlook was to blame the school system that kid belonged to. How about blaming the f****** parent?! No personal accountability, it never ceases to amaze me.

[@Punkmonk09]

She can’t do that because then she’s being racist and she’s demeaning “her people” 😕 These types of people don’t actually care that much about solving these issues and helping people because it’s for their own ego and to virtue signal sadly.

[@keitht.ridings9632]

This was a great interaction. I watched once end. Often so get bored but this was very articulate and although there were some difference of opinion I found it very fruitful to see the two sides.

[@The_Loganator8]

I couldn't even finish listening to them. This exact mentality is what is keeping people divided.

[@Sb-sz3cn]

i agree

[@jamesbrown5262]

Yeah the more they talked the more I cringed. Does a majority of the black population think this way?

[@user-zu6ts5fb6g]

You should finish watching the video

[@deusdex1186]

I'm good with being divided from them. We should all make it a priority to avoid them whenever possible.

[@johanjotun1647]

As long as people arn't victimizing each other division is a good thing. I am proud to hail Odin and blessed to have beautiful blonde haired blueeyed children, and if i Had one wish it would be that we forever stand never kneeling to the christian/muslim/jew god of the middle east, continuing our tribe. I don't have to hate every non Nord to want division, without it everyone kneels to "the one holy god" and My tribe is gone.

[@owensbama1923]

I think we need to go back to calling out people that are being stupid and actually racist. Even when the people are black. Stop being scared to call out someone being stupid and racist just because they are black. This was a great example of that.

[@LunchMeatTrump]

We will never reach a place of real equality if we can't speak honestly to every race. Stupid people just need to understand that every negative thing said to them, by a person of another color, isn't racist. This video is a good example, where these ladies assumed every single thing Steven said was from a racist perspective, even though all he did was literally name facts you can look up and verify. There are people of all races who act like they do, we call them racists. 😂

[@AntiwhitismIsJealousy]

The rword cannot be used. But I otherwise agree. Call out everyone who engages in it

[@Patrickf5087]

Thr problem is that racist word definition has changed. It's now a "only the powerful" or "only the majority " can be racist

[@AntiwhitismIsJealousy]

@@Patrickf5087 The word cannot be reclaimed unfortunately. People have been conditioned to automatically think it means "Whs" when they hear it.

[@revtoyota]

@@AntiwhitismIsJealousy No the "R" word can and should be used. This "the word can't be used" shit is part of the problem.

[@badjuju98]

If victim mindset was a person. These 2 would be it. They stood 10 toes down and being completely delusional and wrong.

[@TrayTerra]

This did get pretty heated a bit in the middle, but I think it was ultimately a good conversation and that it ended nicely. It doesn’t seem like many people have conversations like this often out in the world, but I think it’s all coming around. I mean, it has to eventually one way or another, this way would be much more positive and it seems like it’s happening a lot more these days, which is a great thing.

[@RichardHarknett]

everything that girl said when explaining "white fragility" was some of the most non-factual racist shit ive ever heard and she had no idea how indoctrinated she is because she echoed that with such confidence.

[@ArJayDM]

I'm black and made the biggest "WTF" face when hearing her define what that was. Complete reflex of hearing something stupid. I've never even heard of that.

[@notmetagaming]

100% echo chamber

[@nate6795]

Private school BS brain washing nonsense ass shit.

[@MissChrys]

Talks about fragility, and then wants him to say, “Oh, that must make you feel horrible”.

[@robertL7368]

​@@ArJayDMYou black? is black a nationality or a color?

[@EntryLevelLuxury]

I wouldn’t call it frail, I would call it not wanting to be berated by a black person for being white

[@ScrappyXGC]

Truth, I've been called nga a few times, and a white bread mayo sammich no crust with extra mayo 🤣didn't matter any of those times

[@aurorab6796]

THat's all they want to do, it's not a conversation, they want to "educate" you.

[@Setsuna012]

Well, you aren't " White " and Caucasians shouldn't embrace being called a rascal political term invented in the 1700's that has persisted to this day to where these people say it like Africans say Nigga as if they aren't simply saying Nigger. Which honestly confuses the heck out of me as to why they do that given you can get beaten or killed for saying Nigger which makes even less sense as no other ethnic group has had that " Power " and who also dealt with being enslaved by their own and sold to other people for far longer.

[@scanfreq1972]

She tried to use so many things off the top of her head to explain what she obviously doesn't understand herself.

[@OneTinyDancer]

This young lady is truly what is wrong with the way (some) PoC think/believe. Give her another 10+ years and I hope she'll 'come around' to reality.

[@aaronm3531]

He presents a fact and she says “No! This conversation is over!” She presents a non-fact, and then gets furious that he doesn’t immediately believe her every word? Equality 🤪

[@redtiger7268]

I had an 18 year old girl tell me the other day "race does not exist, prove me wrong" I asked if that is what they are teaching her in college. Than I said "you need to prove race does not exist since you made the statement, I do not need to prove anything" She could not wrap her head around that. It seems in college they are now teaching students that all they need to do is make up claims and it is on everyone else to prove them wrong. Completely backwards.

[@thatoneofakindasshole8964]

(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ 100/100 facts

[@seancurtis3975]

Well that's just kinda black American people's logic in general isn't it? If you say something to them that makes them seem less like a victim they'll refuse to listen but let pookie down the street say something that makes them feel oppressed by the white man and they'll take it as a fact. It doesn't even matter if they know pookie lies about everything, they'll still choose to believe that and start spreading that lie around.

[@mhhlzai1015]

As a black man I’m sick of this victim mentality. I understand root issues and underlying facts however, we still have free will

[@timyassa4343]

Ppl play victim Olympics nowadays

[@carpentryfirst3048]

As a white man who grew up in white suburbia, you are my brother and I have your back. I don't know any racist people, it's all just media and gov tactics to divide and conquer us.

[@jjf77able]

Saying “victim mentality” instead of addressing these issues is losing votes and the culture war for the right. It’s also an extremely lazy argument that’s getting old and tired.

[@shippey321]

The only point that I can really validate from the mom is being raised in closed-network home/community and not getting more exposure to different ideas, cultures, and social status ventures. I grew up poor and I can 100% relate to the potential problem of limited access to new information and possibilities. Free will or your choice is the greatest factor, but if you've only had bad example after bad example, you're likely not going to amount to much nor be a very productive citizen to society.

[@Druku1977]

So, what you're saying is you don't have generational trauma?

[@tmac7975]

As a Black woman, she upset me. She couldn't support her statements, so she instantly became offended. As educated as the mom is, she is so led by her emotions. So frustrating.

[@jacobosbak]

they are the only ones allowed to be victims

[@brandtc.7991]

I dont know how Steven lasted this long with them and was so calm.

[@billryan8721]

The young lady should try a piece of humble pie......I find it yummy. Amazing to see so many folks like these two that feel they have an answer for everything and frankly, know everything.

[@mp5249]

​@@billryan8721school would never serve it to her. Never.

[@ghostofgarycoleman5251]

Because he's not fragile

[@brandtc.7991]

@@ghostofgarycoleman5251 That and he is just a chad when it comes to interviewing. Words never bother me either, but I am just not this good at carrying an interview.

[@rgkeldrat1]

The amount of patience Crowder has is unimaginable.

[@jamesmahaney6253]

Not with his wife 😂

[@BlakeSakalMusic]

I disagree. This could be considered a “micro aggression” in todays world 😉 but I think with all his experience and expertise in debating he could of had way more patience and empathy. His argument would’ve stood even stronger.

[@Rectify21]

Lmao he’s a phony.Acts like he is a reasonable person when camera is on. Really just a piece of shit who want even let his wife have a car.

[@dale4305]

The daughter is so brilliant and can contribute much to society unfortunately she is brainwashed and will turn out a liberal because of the corrupt college she will attend

[@markhagood6662]

The mom is so full of it.