Her Baby Daddy Destroyed Her | Financial Audit

[@RhyD502]

Hey Caleb! Social worker here! Just a thought, it would be beneficial to you and those being audited like this woman to contract with a Benefits Specialist so they can help her discuss her options with child support, food stamps, Legal Aid, etc.

[@BelArtist]

Yessss!

[@RhyD502]

@Sam-ym8jy Contact the social services department in your city or county. You can fill out preliminary paperwork online and they can help you. Also, you can google the name of your city or county and “community action agency” this organization will also have case workers that can help.

[@bigisrick]

@Sam-ym8jy google

[@BobbyM7847]

Would be better if she just closed her legs 😂

[@RM-qn3ro]

social workers don't like white people

[@maximillie_61]

I love Caleb's discretion when hes facing someone who is carelessly spending vs someone who is legitimately in a tight spot and needs help

[@decadunce]

Professional as fuck

[@TXTractorLife]

Discernment

[@Susan_McG]

❤❤❤

[@yamotha1217]

Real shit, good job Caleb 👍😎

[@Okra_winfrey]

I’m surprised you see it that way because he raised his voice entirely too much to me during this conversation when he knew he was speaking to a DV victim w/ PTSD.

[@foobarFR]

Caleb's audits are not just personal finance stuff. It's a roadmap of Broke America. The way this channel puts on scene ordinary people is an electroshock.

[@koltonriley5929]

Broken* America

[@casadekreeftpetservices8222]

Since he was a Kalamazoo kid he gets it! He grew up seeing it around him.

[@Noonmark]

extremely poignant comment bro, well said

[@blueblur1984]

This is pretty text book groomer/abuser behavior. Separate her from family and friends, lock her down with kids before she's ready, hold the kids hostage and, if all else fails, fall back on violence. She needs to get in contact with a women's shelter.

[@username9999]

She has shelter at her dad's house...

[@shyonna5417]

@@username9999im thinking they mean because there might be free resources at the shelter to aid in getting custody of the kids.

[@Light_910]

Or she baby trapped a married man lmao. Both of them are stupid.

[@jmb9701]

Cop here; yep 1000%. She is very mature and seems well centered for somone so young. She'll do okay if she can find an equally independent partner. Tough to do though, not many quality men want to care for two kids at 22.

[@dragonstooth4223]

Yup ... she needs to get the kids away from him before she ends up mourning a grave.

[@wol377]

Can we nominate her to reappear on the show once a year?! I think I need closure on this girls pending successes!

[@XChaXGirlX]

Same🎉

[@jillgott6567]

Great suggestion

[@MmM20978]

Definitely! We should do some kind of GoFundMe for her too.

[@WeLoveGameMusic]

I would say it will be a 95% chance this girl will be like the last girl who reappeared on the show. Nothing will change.

[@dukewellington7050]

The chance of her "success" is slim and likely you'd be watching a trainwreck in slow motion

[@MDane9]

this poor girl is the victim of a predator. thank you for being kind to her when it's clear she was abused so terribly. all my love and hope to her.

[@wesleyschumacher486]

Don’t put yourself in a position to be preyed upon.

[@PomsNTomsMom92]

​@@wesleyschumacher486 😂 you're ridiculous lmfao

[@CSpottsGaming]

​@@wesleyschumacher486How about don't put yourself in a position where you're defending a person who targeted an 18 year old *girl* and put two babies in her. How about don't defend someone that's been physically violent to their partner. How about not being a piece of shit in general? She didn't "put herself in a position to be preyed upon". She was barely even an adult yet and this creep saw an opportunity.

[@casadekreeftpetservices8222]

Thank you for saying this. You can be of legal age and still be prayed upon

[@WhtSupremePizza1]

She was 18 and she held the door open while he was driving. When you drive the door will close by itself unless it's being held open. It's her fault she fell out. Women always exaggerate and lie. You're all delusional. I'm glad he has the kid. Guarantee she loses a custody battle. She looks like her DOC is boy.

[@foobarFR]

5 years from now she'll be a local manager with a 50k annual income and she'll NOT be broke. I wish her the best!

[@beckypetersen2680]

That would be wonderful. I hope that is the direction she goes if that is what she is truly good at!!

[@1SlipperyPenguin]

5 years from now 50k won’t be enough for a studio apartment

[@MoneyMan28]

No, she will have 5 kids to feed, she can't resist the dingus

[@reidlos8084]

5 years from now a 50k salary will feel more like 40k... if you're lucky

[@casadekreeftpetservices8222]

She doesn’t sound scared to work. Wonder if electrical unions in the area are protected for good wages and benefits for her and those babies and a wonderful skill set for work where ever she moves

[@kroop5427]

She needs to contact social services and get her kids back! He has domestic violence charges in his past. Use the system to get on your feet. I am a survivor and that's what you do. I had 3 small children with no job. I put myself through college and have made serious bank ever since. Stay safe. You can do this!

[@potato1084]

You guys are so strong cause it’s hard enough for my partner and I expecting 1 child whilst living rent free as students. Can’t imagine for a single parent.

[@awill3454]

Something really feels off about this. This man is a total sociopath but our family courts are stacked in women’s favor. This should be a slam dunk situation where she has full custody. How the hell does she not have the kids?! There is something missing

[@jakebaca264]

​@@awill3454exactly right away when I heard her side I said maybe it's her who's the problem

[@missmia196]

​​@@awill3454it sounds like the legal system has not been involved. He just has the kids and she hasn't legally done anything-- they don't use the justice system. It doesn't serve everyone.

[@nanananananan-z6b]

I mean does he really? Do we know the whole story?

[@Astro95Media]

Girl, you've got this. I was a single parent with no help from my ex for five years. Got myself together, busted my butt and paid everything off. Took three years but it worked. You can do it. We'll all be here rooting for you!

[@MmM20978]

You gotta do what you gotta do. I love that can do attitude!

[@AWindy94]

I left my kids dad last year and went to a women's crisis center and they helped me so much, I am eternally grateful to that place. I'm going back to school, I'm getting a better job, I finally got a car, I have my own place and my child is fed, clothed, and happy 😊 I really think she's going to come out on top.

[@MmM20978]

@@AWindy94 Good for you! Help is available if we ask.❤️

[@RoxxiWalker]

Can I ask if you’re no longer a single parent because you’re with someone new or after five years he started paying child support? I hope you’re getting child support from your ex, and also have a new man! ❤

[@alieshaz9520]

Depressing episode. Really hope for the best for her and her kids! Being 38 and pursuing a young 18 year old girl is predatory whether it’s legal or not. Telling a woman to not go on birth control out of fear of her gaining weight only to impregnate her again is appalling.

[@sadgearmy]

Well if thats the definition of predatory then thats saying Leonardo Di Caprio is a huge predator, which is ridiculous.

[@cryinginstyle]

@@sadgearmyshe may be a legal adult but when you’re 18 and somebody is 38 there is a huge gap between potential wealth, general knowledge, life experience, etc., which are all things that can be abused. Leo’s problem isn’t that he prefers younger women, it’s that he is a 48 year old man who exclusively seeks women under the age of 25, some of them being as young as 19. He has a lot more money and social capital than a lot of them, even though they are also rich and famous women, just from his age and mega stardom alone. There’s a reason why people aren’t hating on Chris Evans, who is married to a woman 16 years younger than him, because Chris doesn’t go out of his way to date younger, he just happened to fall for a younger lady.

[@ltdata5282]

@@sadgearmy it’s most definitely predatory. She had just graduated high school and an old ass man with bunch of kids groomed her. Leonardo is huge creep also! We all know he probably was chilling on that island with Epstein

[@jeffyboi6969]

heres a wild thought, take the birth control anyways.

[@parmawen8284]

Or go get the implant or an IUD. Pills can be thrown away or flushed down the toilet by "condoms don't feel nice" ass-hats.

[@kayonits2]

She needs to keep her debt free journey top secret from the toxic people in her life.

[@Princess.McBetch]

A little late

[@TonyCox1351]

people just needs to learn boundaries. Learn this one simple word “NO” and toxic people stop being a threat

[@justinthomas5512]

Yep tell them I'm not a bank or you're accountant. Now leave

[@greenAbbot]

@@TonyCox1351 The simple word “NO” isn’t so simple when you say it to someone who is twice your age, has physically abused you, and has physical possession of your kids. Oh, and you live in a state like Oklahoma with such an aggressively shitty social support system that you are utterly dependent on those toxic people to survive.

[@Unknown-qp9ur]

Been working with my mom on this, she was 40k in debt bc others. It's hard bc she is a gifter and feels that is how people will know she loves them. People don't have money problems, they have emotional issues and money shows what they are.

[@forestfairy8025]

this poor girl 🥺 barely an adult when she became a parent, and by a man TWENTY years older. she was groomed, and now hes taking her through the ringer. at 21 she has SO much time to turn this around and make a beautiful life for her and her children. the constant giggling as a defense mechanism just makes me want to put my arms around her. i am rooting for you sweetheart- you got this!

[@kayleemoore5819]

I know everyone tries to say Caleb is mean but this totally shows otherwise. He reads the situation and reacts accordingly. He genuinely wants to help her and understands how she got in this situation. He didn't come on here and call her dumb or blame her. This video really shows how much he actually cares and how much this channel is helping people. Thanks for all you do Caleb and team!

[@Username0467]

Unlike some of these horrific comments. The victim blaming is crazy.

[@jeffyboi6969]

@@Username0467 The lack of self accountability and decision making is crazy. He's a POS and she's dumb for getting involved. Its almost like its not one sided on the negatives of this situation.

[@kayleemoore5819]

@@Username0467 Agreed, it's pretty gross.

[@zetamafia911]

he's really only mean to the people who actually deserve it tbh

[@Boogersandunicorns76]

@@zetamafia911 he's not mean he's just giving them a reality check, and they still don't get it.

[@drshelockwho]

Ginna, i was close to your situation at your age. I am now 10 years out. It gets better, it gets easier. You have people rooting for you.

[@terry9berry1]

Baby dad is pretty close to a pedophile and a controlling one who wanted to get her pregnant. Her whole life predictably is planned. She will not have the energy to be creative enough to get out of this mess. and-he will be in accessible and in jail. Before all this happened, I question the kind of support system her family was._Pathetic shame for a grown man prey on a young girl because she is in need of attention. This stories been told 1 million times I think I can predict her future. I wish her the best😳

[@1337_bean]

@@terry9berry1 Girls like this make me think I need to start looking for younger girls. Do they all want someone fucking double their age? I'm 23 by the way and prefer someone my age, but it looks like the women my age want someone 25-30

[@Draggonny]

​@@1337_beanYoung girls who like older guys are looking for stability: emotional, mental, financial, professional. They're looking for that because they don't have that for themselves. If you're a patient and nurturing person who wants to invest in their future then go for it. I was one of those girls. My first marriage was a toxic shitshow. My second marriage is amazing and helped us both heal from traumatic first marriages. So fair warning: it is a lot. So yeah, there are two types of guys that go for much younger women so if you're not a white knight type you'll be the toxic garbage type. You get out of the relationship everything that you put into it.

[@wildmoonchild8210]

​@1337_bean what a disgusting thing to say, she's obviously the victim of grooming and you are inspired to date girls like her? So you can abuse them like the baby dad in this video?

[@potato1084]

⁠@@1337_beanNo they don’t. If they do it’s for financial reasons alone. I will say as someone young and expecting a child with someone who’s my age it’s definitely more of a challenge financially as we’re both students.

[@brittanymac7278]

It's wild that he doesn't want her on birth control because she "might get fat." Like pregnancy is known for keeping women slim. 😂

[@jenjones90]

Why did she need his permission?

[@anti-socialprogramming2203]

Birth control is actually horrible for women tbh... But yea the two pregnancies before 21😅 not a good situation either

[@ll2323]

@@anti-socialprogramming2203there’s so many different kinds and forms of hormonal and non hormonal birth control, there’s no excuse to not either be on one or practice safe sex. Because clearly neither is happening.

[@anti-socialprogramming2203]

@@ll2323 yea im not disputing that lol. I'm simply commenting on the negative impact hormonal birth control has on women

[@causticmain5002]

Birth control is bad news anyways

[@KageTact]

Jesus this dude really wrecked this young woman's life. Two kids and he discarded her for another woman. Havent got far into this video and I'm already hoping she manages to make it through this.

[@hornetguy9063]

It’s why I want to smack people who tell young people to “just make mistakes” in order to “experience life”. I bet this dude had red flags that could be seen a mile away, but he’s “hot”. Her life is basically in shambles because she let the wrong man knock her up.

[@squashforsale8466]

@@jacksonbilly9979 shitty take, equally shitty taste in music. Checks out

[@JKPrimetime]

​@@Turboturtle098he was in late 30s

[@dango2917]

@@Turboturtle098 she had another kid with him and then left her children with him to run away.

[@sagm706]

He’s gotta trade up for a younger model every year like a car lease. 😢

[@JavaDoodles]

this story breaks my heart. hoping for the best for her! also hi caleb!

[@CalebHammer]

So sad :/ but also, hi!

[@Allison_Hart]

omg i love your animations, especially the ones with the Kevin voiceovers 😂 ETA: hopefully that's not tone deaf to say under this sad video but yeah

[@YoutubeNeoconskeepcensoringme]

​@CalebHammer hey, educate yourself with Chime!!! Let us know how it goes 😂. That Fizz crap doesn't work unless you are a college student and have an IPhone. Also, sofi requires a bunch of gimmicks to get high interest and the $250. Ally is what normal people should use.

[@YoutubeNeoconskeepcensoringme]

@PoppyCocks there are plenty of banks that will give you high interest saving without direct deposits. Plus to recieve 250, you have to have a direct deposit of 5000. Most of us don't make that in a month. Fidelity will do you way better than that.

[@tylersnotslick]

@@CalebHammerCaleb is the man. hope i get to meet my hero one day !

[@d6mafia13]

I have a hunch that her old ass grooming babydaddy got her on drugs, and that's exactly why she hasn't gotten social services involved. It's the only thing that really makes sense. My heart really goes out to her. I hate to even assume that, but as an addict myself, theres just signs I see. Plus, I've seen this sort of thing happen over and over again with friends or acquaintances of mine. Im really concerned for her. I really hope she gets it together and gets her kids back because it doesnt sound like they're in a safe environment. For some reason I also doubt her parents are gonna let her kids move in with them. Poor girl is in a really hard situation. I wish i could help. She needs to apply for section 8 and get those kids asap.

[@TS-gf6ou]

He’s 38 and she was 18…and he already has 3 with 1 on the way. Guy sounds extremely manipulative.

[@tracym8952]

Yea he should have his balls ripped off before he continues to behave the way that's been described

[@turtleanton6539]

Yeeeeees😮😮😮

[@LilySaintSin]

He's a groomer, no doubt.

[@DevHazy]

This is oklahoma normalcy. Guy mentions Jesus one time and everything is cool

[@citylemon7832]

I understood he had 3 kids before her kids. So with the 1 due today, total of 6. Anyone else?

[@punkbassandcovers]

I cant imagine. A few minutes in, no words can express how terriblly awful I feel for this young woman. The baby dad needs investigation. I hope someone seeing this has connections and/or resources to help her through this - financially, mentally and legal. I hope she can get some sort of child support. Again I'm only a few minutes in. Maybe that discussion will happen.

[@begley9]

Truth is often in the middle - I'm sure some of this happened which is terrible but I have a thought that if court is allowing him to keep them, they know more than we do or what she is presenting.

[@JosieThenFarmer]

@@begley9it sounds like no court is aware that he has the children. He is keeping them from her.. yes the truth might be in the middle. But keeping children from a parent just because you can, that is just not Oke

[@jeffyboi6969]

@@JosieThenFarmer If you think a man with 3 kids with a prior situation is willingly taking on 2 other kids and is supposedly a POS man, I have beach front property to sell you in montana.

[@michaelgianakos8288]

I hope she gets to a better place in life.

[@Jake-tt2iv]

This is literally what all fathers go through. She's a druggy

[@charityschubert]

"We're no longer 'looking into it' we're doing it." Caleb was talking about therapy but this can apply to so many things in life. I needed this reminder. Thank you for the inspiration!

[@fartherdude5062]

This is a great episode and almost cliche to an extent. Young mom with two kids out of wedlock with an abusive boyfriend/manipulative older man who holds the kids over her head whilst living in poverty. This episode can help many people and I hope she finds her way and is able to get out of her situation. She’s still young.

[@amoose8439]

Some people's only purpose this time around is to be a warning for others.

[@sumisum2813]

Where are the people who say you need to marry young as a woman? So many girls marry at young age, only to be in a poverty situation with 3-4 kids.. So many women who fall in poverty more than men. And they blame women, for wanting a career and work built at least something for themselves.

[@LilySaintSin]

Do you think he'd be nicer to her if they were married?

[@rickdeckard4735]

Sounds like it was a consensual relationship. She made her bed, now she gets to lay in it. Stop absolving women of responsibility for their bad decisions.

[@Atlas-tp8dw]

​@@LilySaintSinNo, but this is one of the reasons to be extra careful in choosing your partners and even more careful about who you sleep with because the consequences last for decades for multiple people, including the children who will feel the effects of the poor choices.

[@4DMBOXNEWS]

Being in poverty with kids is a hard thing to deal with

[@chuckchan4127]

That's quite the understatement.

[@turtleanton6539]

For sure 😊😊😊😊

[@fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528]

yeah if only there was a way for her to not have kids before she was mentally and financially ready... If only there was a choice she kept making that she could have chosen to not make... oh well cant stop humpin' and condoms feel weird so there's nothing that could have been done.

[@thecattermat]

@businessbabe3534 teenagers make life ruining decisions too commonly

[@bojan1999]

I'm sorry but maybe don't have kids?

[@BornToBeEmerican]

Any time I hear someone say that birth control will make them fat… I’m like, “do you know what else makes a woman gain weight? A pregnancy.” Baby daddy is a terrible person.

[@LetMeEatDem]

You make you fat. Of course there will be some weight gain. But it can easily be mitigated by continuing to live a healthy life style. Which is also in the best interest of the baby. But we all know women don’t actually care about that. They may virtue signal. But actions speak louder than words.

[@josephineswaim1964]

If you don't take care of yourself after having a baby, yes. But birth control does make women gain an unhealthy amount of weight and also puts us at a higher risk of blood pressure problems, strokes, and even cancer. It can also cause cysts and leave a woman infertile. Even then if you do take bc many things can cancel it out like antibiotics. I ended up pregnant with my first kid at 18 that way. What we should be doing to not get pregnant is to just not have sex. They make toys for a reason and that goes for both genders. It takes two to tango.

[@christlives916]

As someone who has worked in child support enforcement, I’d encourage her to pursue it and put this man into the ground in debt. He’s likely not going to pay it (he could be put into jail eventually if found in contempt). Pursue custody in the family law court in your county (different from child support) and use the system to your favor. Its taxing but if everything that was said is true, it will be worth it. Even with all of that working out, being a single mom of two at 21 is going to be tough. Financially, it will be tight but stick with Caleb’s advice and you will do right for you and your family’s future. Goodluck!

[@christlives916]

@@MasterPrestiege based on the video and her being 21, the courts option hasn’t really been explored. Restraining order was mentioned but for some reason she didn’t pursue child support or custody. It is strange.

[@Naturefan354]

If he has full custody then how and why would she pursue getting child support from him? I would think she would have to pay him child support.

[@christlives916]

@@Naturefan354 I don’t think she mentioned if he has custody or not. Just sounds like he isn’t allowing her to see the kids.

[@Naturefan354]

@@christlives916 How would he keep the children from her if there is no court order? There is nothing stopping her from going to court to seek help to go get her kids thrn

[@christlives916]

@@Naturefan354 I agree, not sure why she has not pursued this in court. She should.

[@jzmina]

Honestly don’t need to hear his side of the story. Getting a teenager pregnant TWICE at damn near FORTY YEARS OLD?? Idc if it’s legal, that man needs to be on a list.

[@carly.mena.]

Also, as someone who used to work at a shelter for victims of DV, I want this woman to know she has a really bright future ahead of her, she CAN do this, and we are all rooting for her!! 👏

[@japanesecinema6736]

21 and broken af. Sorry for your struggles.

[@MoneyMan28]

so can you pay for the kids for 18 years?

[@kavaking]

​@@MoneyMan28fuck em. If he's gonna be a physically abusive pos who isn't gonna do shit in his pathetic little life then yeah he can live in poverty and starve as long as those kids get fed. Fuck people like that, grow TF up and respect women. Little boy behavior.

[@fatalblue]

Miss, if you read these comments know that I and many others are rooting for you. Please follow Caleb's advice! The less debt and more income you have the better leverage you'll have in your fight for your kids!

[@charlim2479]

Caleb I appreciate how willing you are to allow guests from all life situations onto your show. Some episodes may be uncomfortable for some but there's always someone out there who can relate to the situation.

[@jessicat2304]

Caleb does so good at motivational interviewing. He actively listens, doesn’t judge , yet can asap still be stern in a sensitive way.

[@BadBotNate]

im not blaming young women, but I really wish they would pause and ask themselves why grown women dont want these guys.

[@krissybee2484]

They’re likely not old enough or have enough life experience to do so. She may not have anyone in her life who she can talk about relationships with.

[@kristelbrok998]

I was similar to her, when i was 16 😬😬 i didnt know what red flags to look out for, and just felt special because they wanted me (me having had a shitty upbringing didnt help)

[@silverltc2729]

​@@GetOfflineGetGoodDid these men know Jesus Christ? 🙄

[@ashleykathryn9038]

Apparently they do, she said he had 6 other kids??

[@brightonuprach]

Just asking this question is victim blaming.

[@miafaucher9617]

this whole episode was just so sad... :( she's a young mom who can't see her own kids with a messed up baby daddy. My heart goes out to the kids. Talk about childhood trauma and most likely repeating their parents' messed up situation. Poverty is no joke and it is sad that when young woman such as herself are taken advantage and results in continued trauma and poverty that gets passed down to the children. It does sound like she trying to be a great mom by getting her life together! wishing the best for her!

[@yoan0197]

This is the definition of grooming

[@jeffyboi6969]

@@yoan0197 This is the definition of bad decision making.

[@aUNCtarheeel]

​@@jeffyboi6969 dont see why it can't be both

[@AliensPlzAbductMe]

Why is there no link in the description to anything of hers to help her ??

[@ericawheaton]

My mind is going to the darkest places when thinking about the welfare of these two children while they are in the hands of that man.

[@breathedaair4607]

I thought about 5 minutes in that she should look into bipolar disorder (the crazy spending, low self-esteem, history of bad decisions, repeating mistakes, etc.), and now she just said it! I'm so glad the people in her life clocked that and are looking out for her.

[@veggiebeat8375]

Ginna, I am rooting for you! You've made progress by not spending on your CC's and making more than minimum payments. Keep on fighting. It is going to be a hard road but I am convinced that you can do it. All the best to you and your kids.

[@laurenc9458]

She’s only 21 but sadly you can tell her life has taken its toll on her.

[@maxine2564]

I couldn't even watch the entire episode. Just made me mad and sad. And where were her parents?!?! Even at 19, you can still all your kid what they should and shouldn't be doing. Especially when you know their actions are hurting them.

[@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607]

The person you have a child with you’ll be tied to forever. Be super careful…& super CHOOSY with who that is.

[@enneirda07]

5:15 LADIES, RUN from these older men!!! I don't care if they tell you you're so smart you're so beautiful you're so mature for your age they are playing you. The dumbest old man is smarter than the smartest young woman because life will teach you things that you can't even begin to prepare for unless you live through them yourself. If you are in your teens or early twenties it should be more than a 5-year gap between the two of you (and that's pushing it).

[@NONCHALANT2525]

No shit, the fact this needs to be commented is horrifying im never talking to a woman again

[@fracha4817]

@@NONCHALANT2525 good! dont :)

[@sam7259]

The fact that he got custody over her as a man while supposedly being a deadbeat paints a different picture IMO. Courts rarely give guys the kids unless the mom is 3x the deadbeat at the time.

[@b.julienetodd9392]

​@sam7259 they have not gone to court for anyone to get awarded custody. She said he has not returned them after she took them to visit him. She needs to go to court.

[@Kenzingo]

You meant "shouldn't " be more than a 5 yr age gap, I assume?

[@nikipete8553]

Since she is in school, she should tap into free resources they offer such as counseling, career services and other options.

[@OffRoadQC]

This is so, so sad. Assuming it's all true, this guy is a major P.O.S. and I hope she will get custody and have a judge make him pay for child support. This NEEDS to happen. I hope she gets the help she needs and get out of the debt... and I appreciate how Caleb handled this one particularly. Not an easy discussion for sure.

[@deirdrekiely6187]

I doubt it. She seems very passive.

[@potato1084]

@@deirdrekiely6187That’s what abuse does to you 👍

[@Limpass610]

​@@potato1084she was essentially a lamb that was left to play with a wolf She is 22 though and 2 kids and school and a little brother and work. If she gets through this while keeping her sanity, she will run circles around most men. I hope she learn how to put boundaries

[@itstetrahc]

No taquitos for me today caleb! Thank you for being in my head helping me get out of this hole I've dug

[@blair91234]

you don't need that junk in your body, regardless of how much they cost.

[@bellla333]

hell yeah! keep up the good work!

[@anousenic]

Good job, keep it up :) Zero taquitos each day keeps the debt increase away! 😂

[@morganscholz3978]

keep it up!! the debt will be gone soon!!

[@aUNCtarheeel]

Her eyes popped when Caleb told her she could be a millionaire when she retires. That its totally possible. I believe she can do it.

[@ilovebeee1]

It’s not likely.

[@kristelbrok998]

​@@ilovebeee1but possible

[@amyomeara2515]

Agreed. Time is on her side for now if she can make better choices.

[@Rust_Rust_Rust]

​@@kristelbrok998but not likely

[@wonderwoman1700]

@@Rust_Rust_Rust according to you.

[@_2315_]

Shockingly this is a first for Caleb. I know MANY young girls will relate to this girls life experience. Baby daddy drama, domestic violence, jail, single, broke, multiple kids, no job, food stamps, no family support, etc etc. give her props for doing this. My advice if you’re reading this, STOP having kids. Get a job and invest into yourself and your babies. You need no man 💪🏽🙎🏼‍♀️

[@deirdrekiely6187]

Sad how all these young kids seem to have zero guidance from their parents.

[@edoardodellosbel7820]

You do need a man and specially your kids do need a man, maybe not a bum 30 years older than you with a criminal record but a good man

[@LordMuzhy]

Yes she does but she needs a good man in her life

[@juliagoesfrugal]

No one needs a man, period! Women need to remember that. Men don’t “need” women either. We need to take care of ourselves and if we find someone, awesome; if not, awesome.

[@awsambdaman]

juliagoesfrugal Your kid is a lot better off with a father. Also..it’s not cool to tell men they’re not needed

[@l.a.8709]

I REALLY hope she sees a mental health professional who recognizes that DBT would likely be profoundly helpful for her. Wishing her and the children peace 💕

[@NYCHFAN]

100%!! I did that, and it changed my life! ❤

[@l.a.8709]

​@@NYCHFAN So nice to hear that! Thanks for sharing...keep taking great care of you.

[@d6mafia13]

At this point CBT would be much more helpful for her than DBT but she should probably do both honestly.

[@smittycat359]

With her customer service background and management experience, she should start looking at government positions in her area (state, county, city, gov't organizations). It can take a while to get hired b/c they can be slow in their process but once she gets her foot in the door, she should be able to move up. Many positions don't require a degree and from there, she can look at other positions within the same agency/county (and may get 'points' for already being a gov't employee).

[@Johnnydhee]

Man I'm not going to lie she seems pretty heavily medicated. I hope that she can get out of this situation because it seems absolutely horrendous.

[@1337_bean]

Quality of life is exponentially better without children. Children are like a ball and chain to your finances

[@shortcakegurl5187]

​@@1337_beanwow... way to kick a mother when she's down...

[@Cattlynt]

She’s definitely on something 😕

[@lot2196]

Yes, I was thinking the same. Sorry, but she looks wasted.

[@rebeccashields9626]

Yeah, I hate to assume bad things about people but she seems like she’s on something. I was honestly surprised I had to scroll so far to find this comment. That was my first thought.

[@thebackstageblonde2435]

I’m 27 and struggle talking to my 20 year old coworker… what could he POSSIBLY want to talk to you about? Honey this was never love. Love understands and appreciates who you are…. He just liked your outsides and wanted to control u. I’m happy you’re free now ❤️ but you need to REMEMBER this

[@RyuzaChuden]

Sounds like she was groomed and dealing with the consequences of being used. Idk but get the courts involved, he shouldn’t be around children and she needs help. So young and have your life already thrown for a loop, I hope she can turn it around for herself and her kids.

[@coltonkay9000]

Grooming is a term used for pedophiles.... she is not a child

[@user-nm9qd6bo6h]

either women are adults at 18 or people can finally admit women don't have enough personal agency to make decisions for themselves.

[@TonyCox1351]

@@user-nm9qd6bo6hhere’s a hard truth for you to swallow: this isn’t about women because men shouldn’t be having kids at 18 either, neither gender has enough maturity to be a parent at that age

[@dango2917]

how can he groom an 18 year old? wasn't she a legal adult?

[@christie4336]

@@dango2917 Yes, she is a legal adult at 18. But, she also has talked about depression and maybe bipolar at that time. Sickos target folks with problems like that.

[@shelbythompsoon]

She’s just so sweet- I’m so glad she went on here so that we can support her and get her HAPPY/LOVING LIFE - you gorgeous mama!

[@ElizabethButler-h8q]

This episode struck my soul! I went through some incredibly similar to her. Her life will be soo much better on the other end and it’s SO worth the hustle! Keep in mind that the legal fees will be rough. 4 years later though, I’m debt and toxicity free and on my way to buying a house! You got this, girl! And thanks for a great episode, Caleb!!

[@Thatonegirl989]

Oh no this poor woman, a few minutes in and I’m already heartbroken for her.

[@__RD14533]

I audibly GASPED so many times

[@GoldLimitless2K]

@@__RD1453320 year age gap is crazy😮😮

[@jeremygmail]

ditto. I just want to give her a big hug. One that will let her know everything is going to be alright.

[@b00biejingles]

@@jeremygmail A hug is not gonna change the fact she's going to stay in poverty probably for the rest of her life. I don't get why people say dumb stuff like this knowing it won't change her situation. Unless a miracle comes her way she's definitely not going to be alright especially in today's economic climate.

[@Thatonegirl989]

@@augustmiller-uw2ly I actually felt sick to my stomach! He’s disgusting.

[@Vivt0]

My heart breaks for this poor girl! I’m a single mom too and I can’t imagine going through what she’s been through. I hope she sends an update that she got her babies back. Hang in there mama!

[@Jasmine-ju2yf]

It’s sad buut I live in Okc Yukon is a suburb of here I work m-f my apartment is only $680 for a one bedroom in a city that’s so cheap like I don’t even have a college degree and make $13 an hour here idk how she’s even getting by like there’s so many opportunities here lol

[@peacejoylove8542]

She would be an excellent candidate for a Manager in Training (MIT) program for a general manager somewhere like Wawa (not sure if theyre in OK, but theyre opening up stores across the country fast and pay to relocate and train) while taking classes due to her experience at Arby's. The pay and benefits are amazing and she would have the potential to be promoted to regional manager and even corporate after she gets her degree if she wants.

[@xglosis]

This is amazing advice!! That sounds like something that would really fit what she wants.

[@peacejoylove8542]

Thanks! College was a struggle for me financially at some points. I almost dropped out and if I did my back up plan was an MIT training program with them or another company that does them. Luckily, I eventually got my STEM degree. But I always say if my industry went belly up, it would still be a good plan B since they pay management so well and are expanding fast

[@JKRBW]

In case she read this: The victim advocate at the court that handled the protective order may be able to point you to resources to help get the kids and get that legal process sorted.

[@cognitive-botanical-therapy]

Hi Ginna, I think you're amazing. Amazing for coming on the show, amazing for trying to get your children back, amazing for seeking out help (from doctors, Caleb, your family). You're an amazing woman and I hope we see a positive update from you soon! ❤❤❤❤

[@rottenejl1]

Please lean on Caleb. Dude has a big heart and will help you as much as he possibly can. Use those emotions to claw your way out of your situation and stop looking backwards, there is nothing to gain from living in the past.

[@grmbe303]

My favorite part of the morning is seeing that Caleb uploaded

[@CalebHammer]

Thanks 😊

[@springsummer7757]

I have faith in her!! Taking personal responsibility and seeking help is the very first and best step towards being in a "better place" just like she said! Ginna if you're reading this - know that a lot of the people watching are actually rooting for you and wishing you and your children all the best.

[@kenlang2154]

😂 She's not taking responsibility

[@parmawen8284]

I think that most, if not all, of Caleb's episodes need to be taught in high school before kids get student loans. This episode especially for young people who are easier to manipulate. Ginna, you got this girl. We are all routing for you and your kids.

[@kimberbell4238]

I've contacted him directly and said exactly this to him!! The more dependant people are on the government, the more control they have☹️

[@johnnier4250]

That’s what keep telling everyone around me!

[@1337farm]

She was smart by not talking about her drug problems on video for all to see. It would have hurt her chances to get custody and that child support check!

[@ChubbyBlumpkinz]

Dang I’m 33 and even interacting with college aged relatives is a very big big culture gap. A 38 year old having 2 kids with an 18 year old is really messed up.

[@TheLisclark]

I'm 36 and feel like the 'How do you do fellow kids?' Steve Buscemi sketch around them, lol.

[@us7927]

Right? I'm 27 and my interactions I have with the 19 year olds at my job make me cringe.

[@PaolaHuezo]

You are the definition of a financial therapist & this is something I thought about wanting to do, maybe one day! I’m so glad you’re doing it. It’s very life saving, you should be very proud!

[@itshollyw959]

This poor girl was groomed and abused. A 38 year old man taking advantage of a teenager. Absolutely disgusting. I'm very sad for her and I hope she has a better life now that she's away from that guy. Proud of her for having the guts to come on this show. Wish we could put him in prison for the rest of his life!

[@rangequeen]

I really hope Ginna gets some legal counsel ASAP! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, we need a Hammer SWAT team for situations like this.

[@megsybop7]

please be kind to this girl in the comments. she has been taken advantage of and had the first few years of adulthood stolen from her. rooting for her so much

[@LaylaLover90]

If any guest would need a follow up it should be her. Hope she gets custody and child support!

[@intensifier1346]

@@LaylaLover90it is scary how people can’t see through BS. I hope she gets herself right before she cares for kids.

[@dango2917]

@@intensifier1346 she had them taken for a reason she is dishonestly withholding while dumping the guys past all on the internet so I am smelling some BS but hope she gets on track.

[@intensifier1346]

@@dango2917 I agree this may be the case. If she has other area of her life together I would be more apt to believe her but this is super fishy.

[@chrisspangler3226]

I don’t know any mom that would willingly give up their kids to an allegedly abusive father unless this mom has severe mental health or substance abuse issues that prevent her from seeing clearly. The maternal instinct is one of the strongest forces in nature.

[@sakkababe08]

Ginna, i hope you see this. There are resources out there for survivors of domestic violence, mental health and legal resources. Reach out to non profits and religious organizations, they will be low cost or even no cost. They will help you get your kids out of that abusive household and help you stay out of it. Rooting for you! Hope to see a follow up episode from you in the future.

[@csarah7948]

She should definitely apply to the Affordability Connectivity Program -- it's a federal program that gives you a discount on your phone and internet bill, and she might qualify based on her income.

[@zoechase3923]

Yes she definitely will! I get it as a SAHM 22 years old going to college full time!

[@acsilver2777]

I love my tax dollars supporting lazy single mothers who didn't think about the responsibility of becoming a parent before getting knocked up by some bum.

[@timm8860]

Does it give you a discount on your Apple Watch as well?

[@miamysteryburns]

@@timm8860no

[@herpsandderps8967]

Unfortunately it can be hard to get the kids back now that she has moved away. If they are enrolled in school at dad's house, the court will be likely to side with him. Abuse isn't a silver bullet, no matter how ridiculous. I know a woman who was in a very similar situation and has been fighting for 3 years to try to get them back. Her ex husband is literally SAing the kids and the stepmom beats them leaving bruises but the court is siding with the father because she is the one who left.

[@druberry6570]

Finally someone with a real take 🙏🏽 It makes the court think she abandoned them and then she can’t use the excuse that she did it for the children

[@dango2917]

this right here, she did the worse thing the courts will get her for. She left. This is how my ex had me in a bind until the state of new york learned that I never lived there in the first place so I never "left"

[@Jupiter_Crash]

Exactly!

[@tallgrasslanestitches6635]

It sounds like her kids aren’t school-aged yet.

[@dabrigley]

People who haven't been through this have a rosy view of what the court system will do to help someone in this situation. A women's shelter will not help unless she's lying in a pool of blood on the floor. Attorneys and judges are laser-focused on insisting a co-parenting 50/50 situation, no matter if one parent is a dirtbag. She can only rely on her own wit and fortitude to come out on the other side of this.

[@brandoncrain3818]

That dude is a creep and shouldn’t be near kids. Go to the court quick

[@jeremygmail]

agreed but courts also cost money and depending on his situation, you might not be able to get much either. Not saying she shouldnt do it. It seems like she has cause but just level-setting expectations

[@maddie.bolland.7]

My heart truly goes out to her, I’m heartbroken for her situation. She is so resilient and she has survived so much! I will be rooting for her, I hope that she is able to get custody of her kids and have a happy future. She deserves the best!

[@3rdsidetriangle]

Dam that makes so mad. This grown a.s.s man robbed her from her youth. That's so sick. I hope she sees her own value and doesnt let any other man treat her bad going forward. Wishing her the best in life, finances and motherhood. Thanks Caleb, because people like her really need your help and probably wouldn't have gotten in her household.

[@DividendFiend]

I'm not denying her bf is abuse sack of shit but I'm not understanding how her youth was robbed, 18-24 is prime time to get pregnant and there's way too many tiktoks about women crying over working a job (regretting feminism). I wish her the best and a speedy financial recovery.

[@bigboicreme]

she made babby

[@jenniferescobar9176]

@@DividendFiendshe’s living in poverty…obviously not the right time to have children

[@DividendFiend]

@@jenniferescobar9176 If the boyfriend needs his girlfriend/wife to work a job then he isn't ready for a family, period no excuses.

[@ConnorJara]

​@@DividendFiendYour logic does not make sense for the times we are living in. Median income for most people between 25-44 isn't above 60K. If a man needs to be able to provide as the sole breadwinner, very few men will be able to pull this off. Kids will be a luxury only the well off can afford. I want kids and couldn't afford to float an apartment myself without stagnating my finances and leaving my family vulnerable. Daycare is a racket currently so it does make sense for the mother to stay home and raise the child during the infant years, but there aren't enough higher paying jobs for a single income household to be feasible for the majority of people.

[@bekas150]

I really hope some lawyer or attorney sees this and reaches out to help her. This girl deserves so much better!

[@infotechsailor]

This is why fathers should be arranging marriages still

[@lifeasrini]

​@@infotechsailoryou think this didn't happen when fathers arranged marriages? Interesting... 🙄

[@lifeasrini]

Same. Commenting to boost this comment in hopes the right person sees it ❣️

[@Draggonny]

​@@infotechsailorMy father's best friend turned out to be a paedophile so how about no to all that. I'd rather have my bad decisions be my own so I can keep my amazing relationship with my father.

[@MmM20978]

Yep! I think the trauma has pushed her way out there. She needs a good lawyer!

[@vickykitty6858]

Wow, this was a really moving episode. I am definitely keeping this girl in my positive thoughts and wishing her so much luck for her future❤

[@pdschmidty]

Cycles of trauma will always continue so long as people in unstable conditions keep having kids. So sad. Wish her well.

[@MmM20978]

This is a Favorite Caleb. She is so humble and no defensiveness. She's going to make it with her inner strength and just needs support

[@afriendorfoe]

I'm glad she's on there to get financial advice bc she's gonna have a battle with money for a bit due to her situation. I hope she's able to see her kids again. I couldn't even imagine going through it especially so young.

[@TheSaltySlug87]

Thank you Caleb for helping me become financially educated/responsible and take control of my money! Your tips are invaluable

[@liam4210]

Wow the dude is an awful human. Hope she gets out of the debt

[@jeffyboi6969]

@@liam4210 can you riddle me why a piece of shit dad would willingly take on 2 more kids while having 3 already?

[@andrew8168]

She picked him. They're both POS.

[@margggggggie]

​@@liam4210because he was trying to break into her house. That's the same shit OJ did before KILLING HIS EX WIFE

[@liam4210]

@mastershake8944 fair. I just sympathize with her since she’s only 21 with all of this debt and issues. Hopefully she can figure it out

[@joec5544g]

How do you know he's awful? You listen to a messed up young girl's opinion on her failed relationship for evidence?... For a Mom to not get custody in today's court system means she fucked up bad.... You don't hear that part... Just her ego...Grow up and use your brain.

[@riacastaneda9202]

Okay caleb has so much range. Its incredible that he can navigate these complicated conversations. I want to give her a hug. ❤

[@RustyWater6]

Everyone give this mother all your love. This is truly heartbreaking, I am wishing her the best.

[@chaleasebrennan3043]

I really hope she gets through this, the amount of crap she has been through at such a young age, I hope it doesn't break her and she grabs this chance with both hands

[@Niclie21]

Caleb, I’m a recruiter and would love to look at her resume and consult with her for free.

[@Bigdog5400]

10 minutes in and you can tell she just wants to do what she can to be a good mom. Wishing the best for her

[@intensifier1346]

Wanting to be something doesn’t make you something.

[@kristelbrok998]

​@@intensifier1346but the first step in fixing a problem, is accepting and realizing that there is in fact a problem

[@gc4161]

And that’s going to be the down fall …when women are in that position should try to build something before getting their kids back build the garden

[@jj-gi1ft]

@@gc4161 If what she’s saying about her ex is true then no she shouldn’t wait. Rebuild with your kids.

[@jayh40515]

She can't even make good decisions or take care of herself. She doesn't need to be taking care of kids right now, I hate to say it but maybe someone else in her family can take custody of the kids until she starts making better decisions for herself .

[@maddsj8321]

it’s been 10 months since this video came out i’m truly rooting for her success and hoping for an update on her in the near future. such a scary situation for anyone to be in. :(

[@Not_hereanymore]

Genuinely rooting for this girl, it will take time and it wont be easy but in 10 years time her life could be completely different !!she just needs a little bit of support and help. So looking forward to this girl to have her revenge by living happily and living well

[@elobee6147]

This is a tough situation and unfortunately it’s going to get worse before it gets better and that’s only if she refocuses and stops using reasons to not make moves that benefit her long term. This will pass, keep pushing through!!

[@elenad8712]

I hope you read the comments (obviously try to avoid the negative ones) for those of us rooting for you. I hope you stay in school you obtain at least an associates degree, make the most of campus resources and events. Some schools offer discounted childcare if you're enrolled and qualify, definitely look into that. You're self-aware and asking Caleb for help is a good step for a better future. Best of luck to you! You're future matters!

[@1562lilou]

Rooting for you Gina!! This situation is so hard! I hope you find space in the budget for birth control aswell! Good luck! ❤

[@Febreezeca]

Birth control not free? I'm not american so I don't know but thats crazy to me if its true

[@danishscribe]

It depends upon what state you live in. You can sometimes get free condoms, but I've never seen a place where you can consistently. Some places will provide free b.c. pills, but usually you have to be under a certain income level. A lot of people don't qualify when they make too much money, even if it isn't a living wage. Sometimes they will only cover a specific type of b.c., and women can't always take the type covered due to the side effects, which can be debilitating and deadly. ​@Febreezeca

[@Febreezeca]

@@elizabethkeen7851 Damn Americans are getting fucked hard

[@Dinkwadd]

How about not having sex with ppl double her age and making sure what ever she sticks in her is wrapped up

[@Dinkwadd]

Ps she already is fat

[@yammabamma]

Her ex absolutely groomed her. Anyone over the age of 30 should NOT be talking to an 18 year old. He needs to be looked into. Praying she is able to recover from this and get her kids back.

[@Trache2336]

18 year olds are legal consenting adults. You absolutely no right to try and switch laws around to your liking or dictate who an 18 year old can talk to.

[@yammabamma]

@@Trache2336 found another one

[@skyz2447]

@@Trache2336 no way your defending an 18 and 38 yr thats weird asf when she was born he was 20

[@PrettyLittleHeretic]

@@Trache2336no one said it was illegal. They said it was immoral. You and all other morally reprehensible motherfuckers let us know ALL the time its not illegal.

[@silverplug]

​@Melony2336 yeah, but if a thirty year old looks at a 18 year old, there's something wrong with them.

[@confusedpuppy1]

Oh gosh the first 5 mins of this episode, poor girl 😭 I hope she finds happiness, she's already been through so much at her young age.

[@a202goddess4]

She had a baby with a bummy pedophile. Im so shocked she doesn't have custody

[@EVILUNITEZ]

@@a202goddess4pedophile, more like a bumm who is manipulative. You can tell she is to blame as well as a kid needs 2 and she looks like she’s on meds or is high, I can tell she’s high due a bunch of stoner friends having the same look she has after he turn high. Wrong crowd = bad results

[@dango2917]

@@a202goddess4 Theres probably parts of the story she is intentionally leaving out to make herself come off as better or she's lying about him.

[@buddykerr1]

@@dango2917 So she likey the bad boys. So how's that workin out for her?

[@coltonkay9000]

​@@buddykerr1many such cases

[@allisonatwood1945]

I hope she gets support from an attorney and an awesome therapist. Girl, you deserve the world. You are worth so much, Momma!

[@midorielizabeth5162]

There are two sides to every story, but when it comes to domestic abuse in this county and the staggering numbers showing violence against women, I choose to believe her. Ginna, you got this! You've got a mountain to climb here, but I know you can do it.

[@stonecake313]

When she said he was 38 and she was 18 I was shocked. I bet he thought he found someone easy to control

[@joyaustin6581]

She liked him enough to have two children

[@dango2917]

if he had a DA case at all he wouldn't have the kids at all because she could just call the police again which she hasn't, I choose not to believe her.

[@quarantinelife.]

I also believe Ginna

[@quarantinelife.]

​@@joyaustin6581ever heard of....rape?? 🤔

[@sistermadrigalmorning233]

Caleb, I've signed up for course careers using your code. I am recently divorced, a former SAHM, and need a new career. Wish me luck!

[@Mandy_White82]

I love that you are so receptive and respectful to real life, uncomfortable life situations. As a person in the social services field, my sincere suggestion is to get you, and your team trained in trauma informed practices, as well as have a professional at these tapings, to help with your mental health and their mental health. Poverty, trauma, and physical abuse can impact so many things…

[@2passportsandpostcards]

I’m 8 minutes in and I want to give her a hug. This poor girl - why didn’t anyone protect her from being groomed at what was probably even younger than 18 - let’s be honest - by a man twice her age?? And 2 children??? I’m so so so so so so so sad.

[@bellla333]

at 19 my bestfriend since freshman year started dating a 38yr old felon... he had 3 kids already (1 of his daughters older than us) and i did EVERYTHING i could to try and stop my bestfriend from talking to this man, told her everyday. there's honestly a lot more fucked up details to their relationship too, but there was nothing i could do to convince her to stop before she got in too deep. she fell in love, and our friendship ended up ending unfortunately.

[@carterwgtx]

Years ago, well before I met my wife, I dated a woman who had come from a similar situation for about 6 months (after she has gotten her life back together and baby daddy was in jail). And I can tell you the trauma and damage was lasting - it manifested in bizarre ways that I’ll admit I had a hard time handling. Convincing her that she had ownership of her own life and that she had value and just getting her out of survival mode and into the idea that she could thrive was a huge part of the relationship. She and I broke up many years ago, but I still find myself really hoping on a star that she and her daughter (who loved it when we’d take her to the Natural History Museum) find the light they deserve and and are thriving.

[@RTA95]

I love how much Caleb cares about his guests on the show . Great video once again Caleb

[@gingerleamcwow435]

This was hard to listen to. Raise your kids to *know* their worth and to not depend on a relationship for validation! She has got a LOT of growing up to do and it needs to happen quickly. Do whatever you have to do to get your kids back! Otherwise they wont stand a chance and history *_WILL_* repeat itself ❤😢

[@bonnuitmonchere]

Oh my god this poor thing. Her story was one jaw dropping “wtf??” After another! I really really hope she’s ok 😰😰😰

[@deirdrekiely6187]

She needs to make better choices relating to men in her life. She definitely needs to learn how to stand up to men and not let them walk all over her.

[@bobang1427]

dumbest thing ive read today@@deirdrekiely6187

[@lisakimchis]

@@deirdrekiely6187She was 18 when she got pregnant. She was probably a minor when they met and he was an old ass man. He’s took advantage of a CHILD

[@chrisschmidt7155]

What Does the Success Sequence Mean? 1. Finish high school. 2. Get a full-time job once you finish school. 3. Get married before you have children.

[@Drivenaway89]

Everyone makes mistakes when they are young. I hope she sticks with the plan and upgrades her job soon. Rooting for you!!!!