HermitCraft 10: Who's bluffing? Whose call? - episode 7

I'm stalling here! I'm building my Fantastic Book Shop stall and have a few visitors, @xisumavoid, @MCSkizzleman, and @VintageBeef! After that, I chat with Doc about his log permit bluffs, then go work toward gathering copper for him with @ZombieCleo by way of the wither skeleton farm.
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00:00 Howdy, Xisuma, Skizz, and Vintagebeef!
14:45 A talk with Docm77
28:35 ZombieCleo and the Wither Skeletons
39:25 Skizzleman and Joe fight the wither
53:13 Closing
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#minecraft #hermitcraft

[@Kasslikescheez]

Everytime doc mentions how much wood he has chopped he sounds like a sad and depressed mother that just made dinner that her children won’t eat

[@TheTiredGingerBri]

Watching Joe go from kid like in xisuma's scaffold box to lawyer Joe in the same episode made my night 😂. Very well explained 👏🏻

[@_Kamura_]

Absolutely

[@katrocities]

"I am decently uncertain about how much its doesn't matter." Joe I am crying this was such a hilarious interaction

[@Bliffenstimmers]

17:45

[@szzrhn]

Wow you can FEEL the sleep deprivation of Doc in your interaction. Hope he’s rested up now but man that was too funny!

[@kayleighlehrman9566]

Anyway... what?

[@perfectfry6520]

Doc was kind of an ass to Joe though. Sleep deprived or not he did not have to be mean.

[@yesno7378]

You’re a dumbass if you think it isn’t staged

[@natalie9402]

@@perfectfry6520i think that’s part of the bit lol

[@bikinibro]

This is 4 AM for Doc rn. And it was Beff who called for the meeting.

[@agentgauntlet4092]

Wels "Paralegal" Knight might be really, really busy this season

[@JacksonOwex]

I forgot he did that in the past!!!

[@byebyecitybyebye]

Honestly I would love if future permit disputes had Wels as an arbiter of some kind, that would be amazing

[@Netbug009]

WHAT was that conversation with Doc even I'm CRYING

[@ttry1152]

Sleep deprivation

[@krissybaglin9206]

@@ttry1152 *Sleep deprivation²

[@emcustard]

"A fortune pickaxe has no real bearing on legal agreements" -Cleo Not something I ever thought I’d hear, but absolute gold.

[@moxiefox2357]

Every other Hermit: I'm gonna take this season slow. Doc: *Turbo mode engaged*

[@PaulZappia]

He's definitely gonna burn out the fastest too because of it

[@TussockyBongo57]

This is Doc taking it slow

[@whateverIwasthinkingatthetime]

​@@TussockyBongo57Pretty sure he did take it slow last season

[@contrapasta2454]

@@TussockyBongo57 I think he actually likes that part though. For some hermits making giant builds or farms might be something they think they need to do to accomplish something else, but for doc it is the thing he likes to begin with. He pushes himself hard sometimes but seemingly it's a temporary exhaustion, not a longterm ennui.

[@AnoneemusNoename]

@@contrapasta2454 "Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life". If certain other hermits (not gonna name names cuz honestly i don't even have to at this point) put in even half the amount of effort they exert trying not to play the game...into actually designing and building something cool, fun or interesting they would be all the better for it.

[@l_ukers]

Hearing how much doc is grinding this on Twitter really puts into perspective why he was so out of it in that conversation, especially if he’s taking care of his kid as well. Hope he rests up when he’s done.

[@didi81_]

Fr, I live in the same timezone as him and I don't understand the hours he's awake in, when does he actually sleep?

[@ttry1152]

Yeah.

[@contrapasta2454]

I follow Hololive as well and he reminds me of Kaela Kovalskia, his anime-girl analog. It's not clear when they sleep or if they do, or if they need to, but they do get loopy sometimes.

[@AdalizMColon]

I loved the Skizz interaction. I didn't realize how similar and how well yours and Skizz temperament would meld together. I loved the whole interaction, both of you are inherently funny. Loved it so much!

[@aWildLupi]

that exchange with you/doc/beef has my sides splitting and i'm not even done yet

[@lomiification]

The best sales collective by far

[@ijzm]

Anyways........... What?

[@bintobox]

unhinged meets unhinged meets going insane

[@Wolfboy607]

It's killing me. Doc is not a great actor but his improv is top notch tbh. and Joe is a princely wordsmith as always.

[@_Kamura_]

​@@bintoboxI'm guessing going insane is doc?

[@desmondk-o7148]

I love how cleo just showed up at some point during the whole conversation/argument with doc and started listening without saying anything

[@whateverIwasthinkingatthetime]

I was howling during the livestream during the conversation with doc, I feel the contract may be voided because doc had revealed himself to the other permitholders. "I own you" he says 😂 he must think he's made of Tungsten

[@Whoeverheis11]

If I recall correctly, the contract only said that the *vendor* couldn't reveal the *supplier's* identity. Likely phrased that way so that Doc could do a dramatic reveal later.

[@Praying_Mantis3]

Yeah technically joe could not confirm or deny that Doc was the supplier, but doc could say that he is the supplier. Also joe did not reveal information that Doc had not revealed. The contract is still in place.

[@1500Sachem]

I think he's counting on other hermits being too lazy to show him his place. But also it's the closest I've seen to hermit Drama cus Doc is being EXTRA petty, so I'm here for it hahaha

[@deltazeroks]

doc said in his latest video that he will mine as much diamonds needed to buy out any other wood shop in the district, so yeah, he does own them :p

[@thomasfplm]

​@@1500Sachem, I don't think he's counting on them being too lazy after the covering of The Perimeter. I think he's wanting to play the vilain role.

[@eloquentornot]

"Anyway... what?" LOL!!! I love that entire conversation so much, the verbal play-fighting this season is impeccable!!! I saw the wither fight on stream with the brief explanation to Skizz that you needed it for copper because of Doc, but the context makes it even better!!! :D

[@danielfossland]

24:45 "Do I look like the Beacon-market?" -Docm77 😂😂

[@Tonescarp]

Meanwhile Skizz has killed hundreds of wither skeletons with not a single skull drop lol

[@theKiwii]

Somebody had to even out the odds

[@jeanchair5287]

i love how all the interactions are bringing out sides of hermits we don't usually see. doc is so sassy this whole season lol

[@quilavabucket]

skizz: im not sure an iron golem or two is gonna help joe: how about one or two. dozen.

[@trevors3450]

Doc is so funny. “Do you need a pickaxe too?”

[@emmaparkin8543]

I’m looking forward to Cub converting Joe to bundle use and then Joe can have twenty odd bundles of chaos in his inventory at all times! Xx

[@fandomshark]

Joe and Skizz interaction is wholesomeness overload (featuring Beef).

[@why3994]

I can't wait to see how this stuff with Doc goes, I love how he always tries to make some sort of evil mega empire and it's up to the other hermits to stop him 😂

[@ThanatosIRL]

Hardly evil, he's philanthropic if anything. He donated all shulkers for the postal system, all villagers for nearly every book the hermits used, and he even built such a nice shop for the other wood permit owners 😊

[@ttry1152]

To call him evil is to litterally ignore the mob boss who knocks off villagers cuz someone does not like fish

[@whateverIwasthinkingatthetime]

​@@ThanatosIRLCan hardly call community donation philanthropy

[@AnoneemusNoename]

@@ThanatosIRL Doc did/does nothing wrong. I think some of them have a subconscious habit of conflating him with a certain fascist historical german political party when ironically he is the most "live and let live" guy and the biggest overall boon to the server as a whole lol. I attribute it to too much leftwing extremist anticapitalist social marxist propaganda in mainstream news media and due to social engineering initiatives by big tech, and similarly leftwing extremist authoritarian governments, and entities like certain non-profits, the WEF, and various big influences in the "entertainment" (actually propaganda now) industry clouding ppls judgement and obfuscating their perceived realities. But what do i know i'm just a center-aligned, independent, free-thinking humanist 🤷

[@SeaUnicorn]

@@ThanatosIRL IKR, and after all this they steal the villagers and gang up on him yet again without any rhyme or reason. Beef and Skizz came at Doc and nobody else on a server way before hermit permits were drawn, how do you even explain this...

[@enkays_den]

Doc is trying to become the unstoppable force to an immovable object only he can perceive

[@Nathan-qc4gz]

Skizz forgot a pickaxe in minecraft, Joe's response: "I'm woefully underprepared" 😂😂😂

[@krelle5604]

Doc's mini rage was so god damn funny :D

[@Zinz778]

And kinda warranted let's be honest.. he decided the price it sells for, he gathers all the product and gets half the profits.. Joe may hold a paper but Doc owns it xD

[@susantummon3463]

​@@Zinz778Welcome to capitalism. Hehe.

[@whateverIwasthinkingatthetime]

​@@Zinz778Doc still isn't allowed to sell oak and birch logs so no, he does not own the permit for those, only the lisence to set the price, ½ all earnings and to be the supplier

[@Zinz778]

@@whateverIwasthinkingatthetime Ye... he has a middle man placing the wares on a shelf, you right... you right, I did forget to add that part 🤣

[@ConvorOne]

@@Zinz778well, doesn’t the contract say doc needs to exchange joe’s sand profit for diamonds?

[@Bliffenstimmers]

21:37 Doc yelling “YOU WERE SIIICK!!!” has me dying in laughter, oh my gosh.

[@wesleymccord105]

These early season arguements over permits have me so excited for the black market and lawyer archs of this season.

[@emilyduran841]

i think the doc ment playing sick as in playing the game while sick but the interaction is hilarious

[@Moramany]

OH I just realized that Joe’s puppet skin simulates a talking mouth when he bobs his head! That’s clever!

[@kirstyjordan7685]

The pain doc has endured to build something noone asked for, and you can't even be bothered with your backline!!

[@desfortune]

I'm dying laughing by the log collective shenanigans, starting the season on a strong note ahahah. The evil corp taking for granted the small shop owners, the legal agreements, the potential union and flipping the voting power. It's all so good, a great story Hopefully doc doesn't get bitter over it and threatens you with a rail gun as he built one last season. But even then, a few fish heads should do the job

[@x2neonn]

Doc has lost it 😂😂

[@dionelr]

I'm not sure what's more hilarious in this episode, the way Docm tried to filibuster the conversation so he didn't have to admit any wrongdoing, or Joe singing Cleo in the style of Jolene. But seriously, is Docm argument really "since not everyone is around, I'm just gonna break some rules to get my megashop endgame kickstarted"?

[@WhatIsMyPorpoise]

nope, he was just really, really banking on getting a monopoly on wood for... let's say personal motivations. He needed it set up as soon as possible so he could get his plan started, but he'd already had his plans partially foiled by Big Salmon, so I think he's kind of rushing. Also, there may be some level of sleep deprivation at play.

[@lresting]

Can't wait to see if Doc will be in Quinns next birthday preformance.

[@AnoneemusNoename]

Didn't realize Quinn was a trans dude at first. Thought Joe was an only child and was doing a deep voice as his "sister" as an innocent joke. I was like "oh noes Joe that's too spicy these days you are gonna get yourself cancelled doing that..." Then they spoke at the same time so i looked him up. Ftr so long as he isn't one of the pro-grooming other ppls kids through indoctrinating them into the woke sexual ideological cult types that tries to tell everyone men can be woman and vice versa, how to speak and address others, and invades women's spaces and sports i have ZERO issue whatsoever. I have many normal LGBT friends and creators i support wholeheartedly. There are unfortunately many more who i cannot and do not however. You do you and i'll do me. Agree to disagree and stay in our own lanes i say. So long as nobody is setting out to control or harm others or society as a whole by infringing on ppl's rights and freedoms and advocating for anti-egalitarian forced faux equity we're all good. Anything else however is a tacit declaration of war afaic and as someone who has been there done that i'm sick of it and will not be looking forward to it one bit if and when it spills into the streets. But i will fight. Sorry for the unprompted rant but seriously some people gotta stop and realize how privileged they are that they actually have the freedom to cosplay as the opposite gender with barely any backlash these days smh. I got bullied and beaten (like with skateboards and sticks by groups of older kids) almost every day from like 11-16 and called a f*g constantly just for liking Star Wars, LOTR, anime, video games and comic books instead of sports in the 90's (and i was a straight white male with hetero parents and a girlfriend, how privileged huh? I got it way worse than the gay kids who did sports and kept to themselves lol) And now i'm the enemy? When it was me and my generation who effected all this positive change and societal growth and fought to make all this acceptance possible (in record time actually all things considered)? It honestly sickens me to my core whenever i think about it. Crazy times, everything is so backwards, it just doesn't make any sense.

[@Kiwimarauder]

27:30 I love hearing Joe lose it

[@Getsugaru]

"Misguided Goat-Man: soon you shall regret your words; you've broke your contract." -Haiku by Getsugaru 🐍

[@Getsugaru]

Legally speaking, the contract states that the vendor (JoeHillsTSD) shall not reveal the identity of the supplier (DocM77) to other log collective members; Doc revealing his status as the supplier to other log collective members does not void the contract in and of itself, but his misrepresentation and insistence that the contract gives him more permissions than explicitly stated could potentially qualify as fraud or misrepresentation. Additionally, if Doc continues to insist that the contract gives him ownership of either the Hermit Permit or of JoeHills, that could qualify as duress or unconscionable terms, both of which could void a contract as well. Long story short: Grian's HPEA (Hermit Permit Enforcement Agency) may have its work cut out for it already...

[@2shabbs]

Ah, so that's why the iron golem's didn't work under the end portal: because they need to be attacked first before they will attack the wither now.

[@miridium121]

Amazing comeback to Doc re: voting proxy 😂😂😂 love this entire storyline that is unfolding with him, you, skizz and beef!

[@chatoncay]

the hermit permit courthouse....... please do this

[@CheshireKyle]

This wins best episode of the week due to the conversation with Doc. As entertaining as XB getting blown up IMO. Already loving the shenanigans the permits are bringing

[@martijndekok]

As Joe loves vocabulary and language, I would like to contribute that the term for the arc a chain makes when hung between two points is a "Catenary". Which is visually quite similar to a parabole, but expressed differently mathematically.

[@whateverIwasthinkingatthetime]

It can be expressed under the cosh(x) function!

[@jademuseplays]

I just learned this in my Calc 2 college class and I… well I don’t know how I feel about hearing that term *shudder*

[@_Kamura_]

I love how joe nerfs doc with laws but then doc comes back with mockery

[@Rez_Of_Souls]

Doc is absolutely my favourite so far this season, he has gone completely unhinged after all the trees he cut down.

[@hamptoncomics]

Joelastic book fair is a good name for the tent

[@neznor]

somehow doc's what gets funnier every time

[@tepig2828]

Joe is the small business owner getting duped by the corporate giants at Big Wood

[@Ajlez]

Omg my aunt had the best cabinets when I was a kid. They were... octagonal little side tables with two doors into the cabinet space and she didn't put anything in them so I'd just go inside. 🎵 It did annoy her when she'd babysit and be unable to find me and I'd just want to not leave.

[@ultimatewager]

Stat-checking the wither skeleton skulls was so low-key. Loved it.

[@ibpants]

This was a heck of an episode. Honestly if you'd asked me which pairing would have the more calamitous wither fight out of Tango+Gem or Joe+Skizz...

[@bwjclego]

Doc completely lost his marbles this week! He's so funny when he's completely sleep deprived OMG.

[@jointjunkieslangards]

Omg these permit shenanigans are so great! This little argument put the hugest smile on my face.

[@b_ely]

The Joe and Skizz combo is brilliant :D

[@brujosol]

Sounded like Doc needed a nap 😂

[@heinrichkrull2523]

The talk with Docm/Beef/Cleo was amazing and later your adventure with Skizz was fun.

[@wooloonator3596]

I don’t know how seriously you can take that interaction with doc, maybe a renegotiation is in order.

[@JoeHillsTSD]

I’m very happy with the contract as written.

[@thejohnkaufman]

Sleep-deprived German man argues contracts and legal agreements with a puppet. This is amazing

[@quilavabucket]

skizz!! collab!!! yay!!! i love the idea of having a different mob head on every time you look for skizz

[@terrybradford3727]

The Skizz wither skull dig had me laughing for a good 4 minutes. Thank you

[@eMe_peridot_hare]

If it hadn't been for Skizzleman, Joe Getting that beacon would've been slow Making new friends and facing a foe What a good time with Skizzle and Joe~♪ ↑ repeat chorus twice At Least 🎶🎶🎶 (absurdly catchy banjo solo) Gathering up copper's the task he was set, But taking down the Wither is time better spent They dug out a cave with twenty golems in tow Somehow it turned out perfectly oh Skizzle and Joe~♪ (chorus again) (That thing they do on the fiddle between each verse that is also unreasonably catchy gourd damn) (Another couple chorus repetitions for good measure) ...I can't actually remember how Cotton Eyed Joe ends. Does it just fade out? Ehhh... Banger episode Joe, hope you can get some rest and fight off the last dregs of your illness! :D

[@swims11torches]

We're still in a partnership with doc for now but I think someone should build a hermitcraft courthouse just in case

[@user-co6wc8di5l]

Don't tell Skizz how many kills it took you to get 3 skulls. 😂

[@GWrap]

Joe, I like where you're headed with using replay mod in the conversations. It removes the need to constantly jump around (for you) while playing while still making each 'scene' animated. This may be difficult and time consuming to pull off, but here's an idea: put it in comic strip format! Then you can play with angle like in the comics, where it pans to whoever is speaking. I forgot what film or tv show did something like this but I'm sure there's one somewhere. There's also a comic book video game (beat em up sidescroller) that incorporates this greatly but I can't remember its name. 😅

[@JefAlanLong]

Great episode! Wither adventure with skiz... kinda anticlimactic but the preparation was so much fun, loved it.

[@kanamescocoapie4149]

the legal proceedings this episode are SENDING me i adore this. was giggling so incredibly hard watching this. joe i would trust you with my life /silly also a bit more minor but i love the tv static transitions!! theyre lovely to see. and the friendship blade 9001 is so sweet!! you got a sickass diamond sword!!

[@Ydubber777]

legal battles incoming I'm so excited

[@hamptoncomics]

I love that the title has both Who’s and Whose because people questioned it last video

[@rosegirlz88]

If Joe fits he sits

[@nikkiklosterman3373]

Oh my....I am in actual hysterical tears😂🤣😍 Thank you all for some much needed laughter!

[@jonahbeag]

Catenary, Mr Hills. Skizz's parabolic bridge is in catenary my friend. Every day a school day.

[@emryspaperart]

im glad cleo commented on the wither skull rates because i feel like ive been going bonkers with how easily all the hermits (except for skizz lmao) seems to be getting them

[@rellloom]

idea for bookstore: row categories at the top of each bookshelf column like many bookstores have but with the book names added and potentially twists ft. garden path sentences; ‘Medieval Sailing and Luck of the Sea’, ‘Tattooing and Piercing’, ‘Divination and Channelling’, ‘Sewing and Binding’, ‘Heraldry & Lure’, ‘History of Alcohol & Punch’, ‘Oceanography and Riptides’, ‘Ancient History and the Curse of Vanishing’ etc. I’m sure there are better ones that could be come up with. Some better tier books are easier for this sort of thing and maybe give a better idea; ‘Sewing & Mending’, ‘Geopolitics & Power’, ‘Statecraft & Loyalty’, ‘Epistemology of Utility and Efficiency’

[@the_picard]

Joe and Skizz is the match we all need!

[@elvinvillamor472]

Big wood/ big salmon....has a new player bigger joe.

[@rap2H]

Oh my.. Each and every other hermit has GREAT luck with withet skellies! 😅 Skizz will just loose his mind! 😂

[@eleanorigami]

In on of the previous episodes, someone commented that Joe Hills' comment section is full of poetry and wholesomeness. Some people here did not get that assignment 😅😅😅

[@viridiansignal]

If Doc owns them I wonder if they can unionise :D

[@BakerPeter]

This would be too real for me. I don't need to be reminded of real life like that 😑

[@DJBRO2005]

He's doing all the work LOL

[@monatae9725]

The conversation with Doc was hilarious! 😂

[@roachno.24]

such a perfect time to talk to doc lmao. he was so sleep deprived he was talking nonsense

[@FritzCrafts]

This was awesome. I've wanted to see a skizz and Joe collaborate for years.😂

[@DrkJazzmyne]

Poor Doc😂

[@Beesfemur]

Ooo the idea for the bookshop sounds incredible! And like so much work!

[@JackStalik]

34:06 if the water bottles were splash bottles those damage blaze pretty well and should extinguish flames on players

[@underverse2006]

I love how Doc told Pearl in her video he worked for 16 hour days. And now he is adamant it was 20 hour days. Next it will be 4 days with zero sleep.

[@evansaschow]

He worked 40 hours a day, uphill in the snow both ways, just for a shop that they asked for!

[@ItsQuipz.]

The funny thing is the 20 hour days conversation happened first, because the Pearl clip happened during the closing of this video

[@ProfOctopus]

The Great Joe got sick Doc has only 2 permits Iron machinations power Crushes skulls with valor Apparently the hills have luck Anyway.... what? (Poem by me)

[@magdahearne497]

One of the funniest episodes I've seen.....when Doc started on about the dog show that was me finished, I couldn't stop laughing, the tears were running down my face. Thanks for sharing some great entertainment 😂🌺

[@terrybradford3727]

I want a bounce house (slime blocks) surrounded by scaffolding now. Lol. Thank you for the idea.

[@Magis_Ghast]

Joe-Fully underprepared, even

[@itsphysicsjim]

I've not killed a Wither before either and I'm due to do it on my own and I'm terrified! Watching you guys get it done has made me feel a bit better about it :D Good job guys!

[@tjpoobah1244]

Rarely comment but wanted to say I love the callback to the Super Hostile series, those were the first videos of yours I ever watched. I can't believe how long it's been but so glad you're still making wonderful videos and always bringing joy.

[@elsalaiho1699]

I watched the stream where a lot of this video's materials came from, and that interaction with Doc is.... I thought, when I watched the stream, that maybe on a rewatch in the video I'd be able to parse what's going on better than I did while watching the stream, but no, I still have no clue what's going on, although it's certainly funny

[@vilhjamursigurgeirson4342]

very funny video! who knew business negotiations could be so entertaining

[@terrybradford3727]

Omg, thank you. I am in the second segment and am loving it. That's my response and what I was thinking with the "Log Father," back in the Mesa season (can't remember number) lol. Thank you for so much laughter. Can't wait to watch your next stream.

[@nbeutler1134]

"Anyways... what?" Is and will always be the greatest hermitcraft quote of all time

[@lauffodil]

absolutely goregous i’m genuinely touched :) what a lovely mind you have

[@ChaosFoxy]

I just hope Joe has been working on his backline for the next meeting. Doc is VERY SERIOUS about a beautiful backline. XD lol Ah.. sleep deprivation. Oh the things our brains turn into.

[@vegabotain]

Man, Doc is out of control! XD Fight for your rights Joe!

[@Aziruf]

The GOAT spoke , he OWNS YOU! 😂❤

[@heatherreadsreddit8579]

We must protect Doc at all costs! Hope that he gets some rest. 😂

[@MrAllallalla]

Your interaction with docm is so hilarious

[@scyphe2103]

I've been watching your videos even though I'm not subscribed, but because of that conv with doc and beef, you've got me hooked brother! Just sharing. ❤️