Hernias And Deadlifts - Starting Strength Radio Clips

Rip talks about the relationship with hernias and deadlifts.
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[@michanota4230]

1999 I had hernia’mesh repair on one side2 weeks later..im doing deads and squats.. 2024..65yrs,still doing deads and squats.No Problem🏋🏽

[@jmarder]

This is the most no-nonsense explanation of hernias and how they affect lifters that I’ve yet to find. So many videos are filled with bro-science which isn’t rooted in any evidence. I just has bilateral inguinal hernia repair as well as an umbilical hernia repair all at the same time. Everything Mark says here tracks with the information and advice given to me by my surgeon. Thank you for sharing this resource!

[@7JT7]

How are you feeling now ? Any tips for recovery . Plan on getting mine fixed soon .

[@jmarder]

Thank you for asking. It’s been a tricky recovery. Surgeon said I was fine to return to all activities after 6 weeks, but I don’t think he understood the physical demands of Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai. Long story short, I think I overexerted around week 18 and aggravated the area. Tests and physical exams showed no recurrence and the repair was solid and intact. For peace of mind, I decided to back off for a while and focus on very light strength training, mobility, flexibility, and core work, gradually ramping up the intensity until my body is ready for the demands of Jiu Jitsu again.

[@7JT7]

@@jmarder Gotcha ! Well i hope you feel better and can get back to it 100% those combat sports are extremely physically demanding. In terms of just daily life and simple running every thing seems fine right ?

[@jmarder]

@@7JT7Thank you, much appreciated! Everyday life is pretty much fine other than the anxiety over having possibly damaged the repair, but several exams and tests confirmed that all was healing extremely well. I’m going to continue focusing on mobility and flexibility, which seem to help a lot. If I had to do it all over again, I would’ve begun working with a personal trainer from a couple weeks into recovery in order to fully prepare my body. However, after a brief conversation with my surgeon today, I’m hopeful about finding a solid path forward which addresses the discomfort. Honestly, it’s not too bad. It just give me some anxiety that something could be wrong.

[@aroundandround]

It’s semantic play to say “deadlifting does not cause hernias” when heavy lifting or any activity that puts pressure on the abdominal wall can bring to fruition the congenital risk of developing a hernia or manifest an existing hernia as an overtly problematic one. If a person could’ve gone their entire lives without knowing about a hernia but deadlifting made them have to face it head-on as a nuisance, for all practical purposes, that is equivalent to deadlifting causing their hernia.

[@starpooper1681]

Your response is a semantic play. If your statement was true then all deadlifters would have hernias. And they do not, including yours truly.

[@ytuser708]

@@starpooper1681 Your logic is wrong. Original comment is saying IF(Person deadlifts AND gets Hernia) THEN(Deadlift CAUSED Hernia). You have false interpreted Original comment as saying IF(Person deadlifts) THEN (Person gets Hernia). Totally different.

[@wordsofnonwisdom]

Yeah I don't really understand why everyone touts the 'birth defect' thing - if I had it since birth I had zero symptoms for 36 years and then all of a sudden I get symptoms? that does not sound like a birth defect but a tear/trauma to the region

[@Broonzied]

I only personally know four people who have had hernias. None of them have ever deadlifted. They are clearly liars and maybe I should confront them on this and check their garages for platforms.

[@Terminxman]

Right? I've known white collar people who don't really do any lifting for their job or exercise whatsoever yet have hernias

[@blatherama]

My hernia was triggered by a coughing fit during a particularly nasty cold. I got it repaired, waited a few month to make sure it was fully healed (at the suggestion of somone who didn't wait) and then began doing Starting Strength, including all the deadlifts. Haven't had any complications, unless you count the gym being closed temporarily because of the pandemic.

[@LiftingwithGrandpaCharlie]

Me too . No repair but the coughing up fluids from my lungs from a cold/ flu into ash bucket on all fours did it .

[@someguy2972]

Plandemic*

[@FitnessCenter-zv9ry]

@blatherama bro now are you ok with weight lifting?.

[@blatherama]

@@FitnessCenter-zv9ry Yes, if you don't count distraction and laziness.

[@FitnessCenter-zv9ry]

@@blatherama how many months after you started weight training?

[@jazonjalapeno1406]

Rip is wearing jungle camo, he has embraced Monke

[@palmsmcgee5456]

Im starting strength training next month for first time in years since I had 2 abdominal hernia surgeries, this video gave me some confidence thanks

[@kadijaish]

Do regular and side planks to get that foundation

[@wread1982]

I didn’t have the surgery but started a hard core core training routine twice a week inbetween my bodybuilding routine. Started with side planks and do ab chair, hip thrusts, ab mat, my abs pop out now and no hernia. I feel like the side planks and the half ball ab chair leg raises bullet proof my abs the most. I’m on high dose anabolics so that helps

[@NotoriousNUGS]

I had a inguinal hernia repair about a year ago and have been doin starting strength about 4m and my deadlift is at 305 x 5 and squat at 255 3 x 5. It does worry me from time to time that I might be pushing myself too far too soon, I do feel it after heavy sets from time to time and has caused me to pull back on pushing myself as hard as I could.

[@DanteWolfwood]

Deadlifting fixed my hernia pain (this is after I had it repaired)

[@deepoil89]

I actually never knew I had one, it showed up on a full body PET scan. It's absolutely genetic as my brother had one and my grandfather was said to have one but found post mortem. Since finding out about mine I've continued to squat and deadlift with no issues. It never hurt and doesn't feel larger. Should I wait til it's a problem or just forget about it? I'm not afraid of the pain or surgery, I've been through far worse. What I wouldn't like is the down time and subsequent loss of strength etc.

[@fuenteskennethrogerf.4131]

I have the same problem, how you doing now bro?

[@deepoil89]

@@fuenteskennethrogerf.4131 Geez, crazy it's been 2 years. I'm good, haven't had an issue with it and have been squatting and DLing heavy for years. Hope the same for you. As noted, my research on it is that they can remain unnoticed for years, even a lifetime.

[@fuenteskennethrogerf.4131]

@@deepoil89 oh nice for you bro. Do you get a repair or you just continue lifting?

[@deepoil89]

@@fuenteskennethrogerf.4131 No repair so far, still just been lifting but I actually have been thinking about it over the past few months. The older ya get, the longer the down time from surgery

[@fuenteskennethrogerf.4131]

@@deepoil89 thanks bro, i can't get a repair too yet because i'm a student, and i can't tell it to my parents because they would blame me for lifting even they should be the one to blame for the genetics 😭😂

[@deadbugengineering3330]

Protip: Do not google for "large hernia" pictures while eating. Or do, if you want to loose weight.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

so how does one strengthen the core and lower back to prevent and avoid these injuries? How can I make my groin, abdominals and low back bullet proof?

[@larsve4297]

Nice shirt, Mark

[@Hossak]

One of the downsides of being born with balls - those friggen canals :(

[@ilteschio8244]

back pain by deadlift is made when the form is incorrect and you are ego lifting, i deadlifted since day 1 and fun fact: it actually fixed my posture.

[@AllPainNoGains]

What does that have to do with inguinal hernias?

[@xxxrileyxxx97]

I think hes confusing abdominal hernias with disc herniation

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

I got a nasty bilateral inguinal hernia from deadlifting and squats. Sucks that I have to quit.

[@Account2129]

"My associates"- Is this guy a hitman?

[@805SantaBarbara87]

I'm scared of mesh...is it safe now days

[@yorickmaillard3484]

Great video, it helped me understand things. I got my groin hernia while deadlifting (21 years old), maybe went too hard, but knowing that it's not from deadlift but genetic is great to know. Haven't got bilateral surgery, but i hope i'll be able to train again without developing hernia on the other side, i'm waiting 8 week post op before retaking light bodyweight exercice. Is it possible to train to reinforce the muscle around to lower the risk ? Best regards

[@synerfect]

Got a hernia while deadlifting heavy back in 2011. Not the fault of deadlifting, my dad has had 2 and every man in my family has. However I did not have surgery. I slept without a pillow with my legs elevated. Drank aloe vera juice everyday and took the supplement called Hawthornia. I also stopped squats and deadlifts for about 6 months. I leg pressed instead. I don't know if it healed or what but my hernia is gone and I'm deadlifting and squatting over 500 weekly and feel nothing.

[@pedroduarte5199]

Wow, really? Would like to hear more about what you did to fix it! Can I contact you?

[@JordanBeardenJabFitTraining]

Yo what that's crazy

[@JordanBeardenJabFitTraining]

Any tips or remedies

[@synerfect]

@@pedroduarte5199 yes

[@drawzan8554]

Hernias do not go away on their own. Stop giving it out false information. Google it, and any resputable medical site will tell you the same. I've had two inguinal hernia repairs. They absolutely do not heal on their own.

[@areyoutheregoditsmedave]

It’s probably genetic but can be mitigated with core strengthening exercising. I had a hernia repaired with mess. I’m in better shape now and have no problems. Doctor said it would be nearly impossible for the mesh to fail.

[@kylem4809]

That’s good to know I had 3 repaired

[@RedRiverChannel]

That shirt is FIRE 😍

[@colin8601]

How many packs a day does rip smoke? Just curious not trying to troll.

[@muscleandmath2910]

Whats the best way to brace on squats and deadlifts on a hernia? I've lifted for years with one and had no pain. Its on the top of the stomach and the doctor says it seems reducible and probably won't need surgery. Also have another one i noticed recently on the lower side of the abdomen. I'm not getting pain on either, but I'm noticing some sensations, for lack of a better word. I've been told to take lifting easy for a few weeks. But how do I lift after this? Should I just wear a belt super tight to hold thing in and not brace too hard? I'm aware they won't go away on their own and might get bigger over time. So i am thinking about gettinf then repaired anyway, but just wondering about guidance on lifting until then.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

that is the million dollar question that not a single trainer addresses!

[@ruckusisland5877]

Thanks for the chat Mark. I'm in Canada and I have an option to go with the Shouldice Hospital which specializes in mesh free hernia repair. Do you have any opinion on that? Much appreciated!

[@805SantaBarbara87]

Did you get surgery? I'm trying and our thinking of the no mesh repair... What should I do

[@jamesdingess9988]

I know this is a old video but I have a ubilical hernia that will not go back in cannot see it good cause of my belly fat but can definitely feel it , how worried should I be I do lift a lot could I still lift lighter weight before getting surgery , and also can pre workouts make hernia hurt

[@justindacke3013]

Good knowledge

[@koulisdag1046]

love the shirt

[@luxmid7486]

how do i get skinnier leg muscles i feel my legs are too masculine

[@Elemxnt45]

Get a bigger upper

[@dawgsmycopilot]

Aaahhh! I love the shirt!

[@travisanderson8458]

So your telling me coach rip was traversing a peg board?

[@mickfpmcolo5478]

There are videos of him doing 15 chin-ups without a spot. Also, videos of him pulling 500 lbs off the floor. He knows what he is doing.

[@travisanderson8458]

@@mickfpmcolo5478 It wasn't really about if he could ever do them but more that I thought he would think they were stupid so wouldn't do them..

[@Stevie2027]

Lovely shirt ! Where did you get it? 😄

[@morefiction3264]

Rockin' the Hawaiian Shirt!

[@lancebartee4074]

Is people's bracing and breathing habits while lifting a factor in hernias?

[@jarlballinofswagrun444]

Yes, I got one from deadlifting, you don't wanna hold your breath

[@osigma-5713]

@@jarlballinofswagrun444 it will flare up with the valsalva if you already have one, whether symptomatic or asymptomatic. In which cause you have to exercise caution. Otherwise, bracing actually protects you.

[@00Noontide]

That's a dang nice shirt coach.

[@dragonchr15]

I get groin pain when I deadlift....was checked out by a surgeon and he said there was no hernia. What gives?

[@Deadlyguy75]

Any update to this? I had the same issue and got checked out and not hernia. Wondering if it could be hip flexor pain.

[@thecookiechannel7083]

Was that shirt originally owned by Jimi Hendrix?

[@tech6263]

I have had mesh implanted for a diastis recti hernia. I was told I could not do deadlifts again. I did anyway. My guts bulge out like before. I’m wrecked now?

[@hellomyser68]

Any update?

[@tech6263]

@@hellomyser68 I can have another surgery but I have to consider that if the first one was not successful, what are the odds the second one will be any better. I have not searched out a surgeon that has a shining reputation and track record for repairing these problems

[@dickjohnson7845]

Hahah, great shirt!!

[@rustyblade9366]

The deadlift is probably the safest thing you can do for your back. People snap their backs more often from sneezing than they do deadlifting. And this is coming from someone who's snapped his back twice doing them. I know it was faulty technichue and other such errors that were the problem, not the deadlift. It can happen. Just like everything else in life, it can go wrong. But then what. You just stop doing shit? Just walk it off, suck it up and hope for better luck next time. If deadlift was so damn dangerous, you wouldn't see anyone anywhere pulling more than 100 kg off the ground. And there are people pulling well over 500 kg.

[@0vermars520]

Maholo bruddah Rip. Lmao just noticed the assault rifle on the shirt

[@torqueofthedevil8145]

This dude doesn’t appreciate the difference between a direct and indirect inguinal hernia. Direct is not hereditary defect

[@msn769]

And your evidence Rip? Saying there is no evidence of correlation between deadlift and hernia is an accurate statement. But just flat out saying it doesn't cause hernia is a leap of faith and you've not provided any evidence just an assertion. Do you understand how logic and epistemology work?

[@Bapuji42]

He's saying that the underlying cause is a pre-existing genetic weakness, but that an exercise like a deadlift can cause the hernia to manifest. There's probably something to that; I first felt my hernia squatting down to work on something on the floor. No weight involved.

[@ButterHuffer]

200kg Strongman stone lift by Mark for incoming 200k subs

[@benjones7562]

dat shirt tho

[@DrInnappropriate]

Mesh repairs of hernias are barbaric. Come to Canada and visit the Shouldice Hospital. They'll fix you up.

[@Eric3Frog]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2999770/

[@Rssident]

Copper deficiency

[@rickdonnette4573]

Boogaloo shirt

[@wreagfe]

Boogalooooooooo

[@EnlightenedRogue24]

Boogaloo! ☝️🥴