Hitomi Chris - Hololive's First Lost Idol

The ghost story of Hololive's past, Hitomi Chris is was one of the first members of the agency who had been terminated under shadowed abd sickening circumstances. And now, we unravel her story.
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[@pixelpastiche]

Legit I always thought Hitomi Chris was a myth because her design looks so different from everyone else. She lived and died like a fan creation goddamn.

[@starxakk]

her debut stream legit looks like creepypasta (at least i think it does, i hope im not crazy)

[@tribopower]

For real she seems like she comes from another dimension, she just doesn't fit at all here

[@pixelpastiche]

@@starxakk You are not crazy. There is something that is just off about the whole thing.

[@sakiamira]

If you ask me, i think it was supposed to compliment Matsuri since shes supposed to be a CHEERLEADER and Chris looks like a NERDGE

[@lionelk.y7233]

Something about the fact that Hitomi could still be running around rn And we wouldn't even know

[@Kaimine08]

Sounds like Chris wanted to be a vtuber for whatever reason. It’s incredibly odd she would go this far for Hololive. At the time, it only had 2 vtubers and Nijisanji and Kisuna Ai were freaking juggernauts. Hololives future was incredibly uncertain at the time. Gen 1 wasn’t even getting paid aside from their own revenue. I mean compensate dating for Hololive? I truly wonder what her ambitions would have been. Even Suisei didn’t put her stock in Hololive completely.

[@OctoSlender]

I fear speculating on that is a rabbit hole with no floor. Stardom's a strong pull to an aspiring underaged idol, fake it til' you make it could have pushed her to go along with the contract, she didn't know any better, etc. It does raise a question whether she had anyone to consult with. Friends, family, someone to talk about this deal. Looking at what happened, it seems unlikely or that the people she surrounded herself with dispensed terrible advice. The blame really falls more on M imo. Making an investment where the returns are personal, in the way that he did, is doomed for failure among other egregious things.

[@leandroiuki4337]

​@@Happy-mx9ds Yeah on 2017-2018, just using Live2D is already a step on the big stage.

[@nekonochesire6023]

@@Happy-mx9ds I think you missed the tons of clips with gen 0, 1 and 2 really struggling and barely managing to get by from it the first few years, no people weren't really betting on Hololive/Cover becoming huge. It only started to take off after gen 3.

[@thejamesonthestreet]

​@Happy I kinda doubt that's the case. I don't think anyone back in 2018 would predict that Hololive gonna be this big. Given that Hololive truly getting their momentum during the pandemic and their clips have "won" the algorithm lottery.

[@Neek190]

I remember when Fubuki iir got a gaming laptop from sponsorship. It was a 6 core CPU and 1060.

[@timelessdays]

If there's one Hololive controversy I wish someone could make a video on, it'd be the Permissions Arc. It feels like the one huge issue that seems to be forgotten by many despite it affecting most of JP. I can only find a few articles and some low quality videos about it. I think that such a huge event would need a video of its own. Capcom, Mio, stuff like that, it could work.

[@HudaefCares]

There isn't really a lot more that can be said about the "Copystrike incident" as I call it. Hololive didn't get game perms and let their vtubers play whatever, and it eventually came to bite them in the ass. Mio and Subaru were the ones that suffered the most because of it. Mio was the first (and I think only?) one to get copystriked, and she got a 2 of those within a day. Meanwhile Subaru's then-manager effed up and _deleted_ a huge chunk of her VODs instead of privating them. I think Miko lost a lot of VODs too... I mean everyone did. Even the Hololive Channel privated a few HoloGra episodes and stuff. I don't remember which website/app it was but someone tallied how many VODs in total each Holomem had and how many were lost due to the incident.

[@marksmandoge9500]

@@HudaefCares i hink it was holotools, the predecessor to the now Holodex.

[@ElliotKeaton]

-Cover didn't bother getting permissions for games. -Nintendo told them to start getting permissions for games or they'd start copyright striking them. -Cover started getting permissions for games but didn't bother to get them for any games they streamed _before_ Nintendo told them to start getting permissions. -Capcom gave Mio two copyright strikes for old game streams. -Cover entered panic mode and privated (or deleted) everything from before Nintendo told them to start getting permissions.

[@Copperkaiju]

Many of Miko's now iconic GTA streams were lost iirc. :( o7

[@C1rnobyl]

@@ElliotKeaton Of course it would be Nintendo.

[@bunbunzeri1990]

Mel once said that she wasn't supposed to be part of Gen 1, but due to "unforseen circumstances", was roped into being one. Can't remember if it was on Holotalk or somewhere else though. She didn't explain the circumstances, but we can guess it's because of Chris' termination.

[@marona8480]

Your guess is correct.

[@thejamesonthestreet]

Yeah, Mel kinda debuted separately from other gen 1.

[@SWIFTO_SCYTHE]

​@@thejamesonthestreet well it all worked out for Mel-mel. Except for that whole harrasment by staff for months. Hey DP should do a video about Mel and her harrassment

[@thejamesonthestreet]

@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE oh right, I forgot about that case. We could've lost Mel before Aloe

[@sancturillore]

What happened? That's the first time I hear of that.

[@Pudding404]

Good to see depressednousagi still around these parts. For people who weren't quite here from the beginning but still have been around a while, Hitomi was like a rumor. Looking at her design compared to her would be genmates, the whole situation looks and sounds fabricated. It is very depressing to think about what could have been. She could have been one of the most influential talents and we would never know.

[@Jonathanloh1992]

Imagine that incident did not happened and she continues her career on Hololive.

[@129das]

The it did happen and she did do sexual favors for stuff. It's disgusting. I am ok with people changing from there pasts, but if it was at the time stuff happens.

[@user-kw6kp3jn6u]

Her termination was very important for company. Her blood bloomed this sakura. Rest in peace. May be she is happy now.

[@Jonathanloh1992]

@@129das Sexual favors can be a content, I don’t see it’s disgusting.

[@yes78]

@@Jonathanloh1992 bro what?? This aint p hub and in this case, its even more disturbing when you say that

[@Sebbeneko]

Nousagi has so much balls for making this video and telling the story and telling the WHOLE story, I was always nervous about addressing this topic myself, Nousagi will always be the goat of this commentary space.

[@williamgates2996]

AGREED

[@daisukeniwa402645]

He no goat

[@mushmush4980]

Fans are really annoying tbh, hounding a guy for a story everyone's been trying to learn about but refuses to admit it In the western space there'd be 20 videos about an incident like this already

[@williamgates2996]

@@mushmush4980 True...but here in western space as you say.... an average person who claims to go to YT every chance they get and then ask them about Mori Calliope, Millie Parfait, LaPlus or kson and get the same response in one of two ways. Who the fuck is that or is that a cartoon character. Don't ask if they know what a vtuber is because their response is "Oh you like cartoon characters" with a sour look on their puss and avoid you. The general public does not respect anyone related to YTComm as a talent because the internet to the Old Guard of Hollywood sees print, radio, TV and Silver Screen as the ONLY mediums. WWW is CHEAP ad marketing in EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD....CHEAP

[@Akabanenabaka]

I remember back before EN's debut I watched a short video that talked about Hitomi Chris, it only mentioned compensation dating for equipment. Which ended in a scandal and her termination. I have no idea if that video still exist.

[@mushmush4980]

It's important to note that Hitomi wasn't an adult during the relationship. She was around 15-17, and M was in his 20s or 30s. Under Japanese law, this situation is clear cut abuse. Despite seeming transactional, this is plain grooming.

[@albertonishiyama1980]

That's also from where the jailtime claims come from. M himself said he was "going to the police" in one of his last tweets since making this case public made him aknowldge a crime he did.

[@icebox1954]

Nah, the law might say so but girls around her age are clearly adult enough to manipulate and sell their bodies for what they want. That's what females do, they're prostitutes by nature.

[@xablaublau]

Care to provide more info from where do you got this info? I'm not doubting since i'm not specialized in Japanese law 🤣 but in MOST of the world the age of consent is under 18 in Japan it was 13, and only THIS YEAR (2023) it was changed to 16.

[@kaleid1014]

​@@xablaublauthe consent age you mentioned is not nationwide, just in one or two regions of Japan

[@somniphobiaanderraticism]

@@xablaublauthe lowest it could be was 13, but most prefectures had it set way higher, google is free, fun fact!

[@davidmendez8306]

AND WHEN THE WORLD NEEDED HIM MOST.. HE RETURNED

[@ZenithintheMaking]

THE AVATAR IS BACK

[@0lvera]

Shota ni wa Manko o Tsukeyo!2 ~Oppai Misete Gaiden~Hanayome Shugyou Hen He's back with a history video

[@edwardvilla3228]

? Drop the sauce

[@Jonathanloh1992]

I think he’ll be only making this video. Hope I’m wrong.

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

He is kind of more like Kuruk. You know. Water bender avatar who faced a terrible loss.

[@arccanyne9097]

Dude, I missed your content so much There really is no one like you to narrate and analyze vtuber stuff. Hope now you will stay for much longer. Anyways, Hitomi was like a creepypasta back when I joined the community. I got here just before the gen 5 debut, so I saw all of the aloe drama as soon as I got here. Meanwhile, being new and excited about the whole story of vtubers, I watched quite a lot of videos in the topic. One of those being about Hitomi. It quite literally felt like watching a creepypasta being told from a community that was growing incredibly fast, so I took it as a story. Like a year later I hear about it again and actually listened to it carefully, with a better explanation too so that probably helped. It was quite a strange feeling learning about the whole thing. From that point to today I always thought it was a pretty sad story about a girl that just wanted to triumph, but now, it just makes me kinda see the whole world as flawed. Like, I see how both sides did pretty scummy things, yet I can't exactly say I don't understand why they would do that. The whole thing must've been a mess at the time, yet there's only traces of it all. Everything is truly a mystery and we just have to accept that. I wonder if time will allow us to actually get to know the whole story or not. For now, it just is a story about a girl that could've been, but wasn't.

[@ryugatsuchiya9018]

After watching this I wonder how many vtubers that we know and love may have done what hitomi did to be popular... I mean it's not impossible, and there is no way of confirming or denying it. After all, the vtubers that we watch and love are, in the end humans.

[@isaac14ac]

Hopefully and I personally don’t believe this but I don’t think any of the current girls have done the bad things hitomi has done

[@aveomnissiah2896]

That how entertainment industry work. I think maybe more than 70% of popular Vtuber doing some sketchy stuff just to get to what they are. The problem is in the normal entertainment industry we got media and a lot of eye spying to keep those famous in check but in Vtuber world we don't even know their real name so it easier for them to keep exploit their fan more and more.

[@skebisxristos]

​@@isaac14ac lol, living in a bubble must be nice

[@thegemguy1334]

Wactor.

[@mrksimka1159]

IMO the problem is not her “casting couch” tactic (I’m sure any popular celebrity did it or else how this trope was born at all?) but that she tried to wash her hands after and take off with a loot. It was two predators screwing each other. If she was willing to cooperate with her pimp further maybe she would still be around😂😂

[@pat3690]

Hey man great vid, love the part at 9:37 where you mention that she was A MINOR??????? I FEEL LIKE THATS A PRETTY IMPORTANT PIECE OF CONTEXT FOR THIS WHOLE SITUATION THAT YOU JUST CASUALLY GLOSSED OVER??????????

[@nikik5567]

Prolly cuz in gen 1 being a “minor” wasn’t exactly uncommon, so hovering on that point wasn’t really necessary when u think about how young the other girls were when they started. Also, just wanna point out that at the time there would’ve been no legal basis for there being an objection to such a relationship. Japan only raised the age of consent a couple of years ago. This happened back in 2018, when the laws still listed age of consent at 13 federally.

[@snix7613]

7:43 "Calling a good night is a no-go" Damn, she is a girl of focus, determination and sheer fking will...

[@renznews7445]

pencil🤌🤌

[@VTsiFanfic]

She was right to keep the transaction from becoming a situationship

[@Absolute__Zero]

I fell into the Holo rabbithole 2 weeks after Fubuki debuted so vividly remember Chris’ existence. Although I can somewhat empathize with her situation, she nor Mr. M do not have my sympathy. They both used ‘unsavory’ means to get what they wanted and both ended up paying the price as a result. They got what they deserved. On another note, If there’s one positive to come out of this negative situation it’s that Cover had revamped their scouting/requirement process. Despite several controversies some holotalents may have here and there, *almost* every talent they’ve hired after GEN 1 have been well-chosen. This is part of the reason of what made Hololive so successful, it’s because their roster of talents are all S-tier in their own right.

[@lemao4944]

@@khov you miss his point, he only said about how cover hired the talent not how they protect them, two different thing, but about how they protect their idol, they learn from coco and rushia case the most and now starting to take things more seriously with joining nijisanji with "protect idol" program kinda thing, i forgot what it is lol

[@arthurmorgan2887]

​@@khov wtf? Cover did EVERYTHING for Coco. An entire branch was eliminated (CN Branch) because of the harassment from the weird Chinese nationalists, which wasn't what those weirdos wanted. It's just there's little they could do with the Chinese weirdos because the country itself WOULD support those weirdos and Hololive had no power on China. CHINA that is infamous for being extremely stubborn, biased, and would certainly support the harassment of someone who dared to say Taiwan is its own country. So lawsuit is not an option *at all.* But Cover did try their best to protect Coco which is why Coco stayed for as long as she did due to their support and encouragement. As for Rushia, she kinda had it coming. You're a blind weeb if you don't see there's a red flag on that girl.

[@V972]

​@@khov They did protect Rushia tho. They said in a statement, loud and clear - "Personal lives of the talents is their own bussiness". It's only when Rushia, being the manhera that she is, did the stupidest thing possible and breached contract (to a Japanese KimStar of all possible people no less), Cover was forced to part ways w/ her is such painful way. Because letting it slide would lead to a downhill if a companny doesn't enforce contracts.

[@jacobmech1]

​@@khov they didn't support coco? So I guess shutting down an entire branch over firing coco isn't support...

[@LucaUmbriel]

@@khov shutting down an entire branch of their company isn't protecting coco? losing out on several business contracts for refusing to fire her isn't protecting coco? losing out on an entire market because they are black listed for refusing to fire her isn't protecting coco? game perms. chat spam. all because they refused to fire her and to this day refuse to apologize for her. none of that is protecting coco. coco didn't leave because of china, maybe if you took your head out of your ass and actually listened to what she repeatedly said about it and her reasons for leaving instead of your own farts you'd be able to figure that out. but I don't have high hopes.

[@white_mask13]

He's Back! Thank you so much for returning!

[@99batran]

Hitomi Chris could've been one of the pillars but she became a precautionary tale

[@idonnow2]

My jaw fucking dropped to the floor when i saw Depressed Nousagi coming back, and it fell _through_ the floor once i realized man legit came back with a video on Hitomi Chris. Absolute legend

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

there are many who still remember this one, before she was sealed away into the history of hololive.

[@sakiamira]

Was just thinking about this talent now that I myself have a few oshis that got terminated themselves :'( At this stage of the vtuber era, we have people documenting each one thats present and gone but this one didnt have the luxury to be remembered so much because of how new the scene was when she was booted. Hope the talent behind this vtuber is doing better. 2:58 Zaion flashbacks....

[@Poyonep]

Zaion is alive on her past life account

[@sakiamira]

@@Poyonep so ive heard. But sadly from what ive heard, her attitude is still....how to put this nicely, less than stellar.

[@Tharja-iBW]

​@@sakiamira Sayu has barely spoken since termination so this is bs

[@sakiamira]

@@Tharja-iBW from what I heard, she did vague comment. But that’s the last I’ve heard. Just hoping she’s doing okay. Ngl tho her antis are vocal

[@Tharja-iBW]

@@sakiamira Her supporters are also vocal. VT pretty much heralds her as a hero. For the wrong reasons granted.

[@raithebatou]

I do appreciate the way you put together these type of videos and the effort you put into trying to find the facts and the way you present that information.👍

[@EmpressOfEgo]

It's so good to have you back Depressed Nousagi, even if it's only going to be like another three months until his next video. We've all missed your content.

[@MAM180]

Glad to have you back Nousagi. You were missed

[@plagesama]

As usual for your videos, I knew the subject matter somewhat but you still shed a lot more light on parts I probably never would have known about.

[@628Gamer]

It's great to have you back, and I'm so glad that you decide to make this video of this topic. Ever since I've jumped into the rabbit hole, there was always this lost 1st gen member of Hololive and finding information on the topic was impossible. Thank you and welcome back.

[@PseudoWounds]

This video was very well researched, I remember googling her story a few years ago and all I could find were disjointed bits of information. Thanks for uploading! And yeah, it's saddening to imagine what could have been, but at the same time it's great knowing that Hololive has been a thing for 5 years now and only two talents ever got fired (aside from the whole Hololive CH fiasco)

[@Yx_Shorty_xY]

This one the #1 video I wanted to see from this video, glad it’s finally out there, pouring one out for Chris.

[@MackTheDuelist]

Super excited to see your back,even if it is temporary im happy you've returned

[@tieradlerch.217]

Hitomi case's behind scene is literally disaster. They even fired the illustrator (the illustrator still lived to this day)

[@Corrodias]

That part I don't understand. I was hoping the video would explain that part, but it just mentioned it offhand. What did the artist have to do with any of this? Or was that an exaggeration, and they just don't happen to be working on vtuber models any more or decided to work exclusively with another company?

[@tieradlerch.217]

@@Corrodias i think they are up to something

[@bagon1374]

thank you for return. there always be people waiting for you ❤️❤️

[@lyconxero457]

So now I'm just curious if you tossed this together during your Spring Break as you mentioned before that you would be incredibly busy with school going forward yet this video is definitely of the same quality as your others ones. Also, I noticed that you mentioned that Hitomi Chris was "underage" in the video which got me to thinking about how there wasn't apparently any sort of age restriction on Vtuber talents being hired in the beginning. I know that Haachama, for example, was very young when she was hired and it just got me to thinking that I'm glad that Cover seems to have a more reasonable age-restriction on hiring new talents now. Maybe it's just a Western philosophy, but I just feel that if you're not even 18 years old then you're not old enough to enter into binding legal agreements and you also probably shouldn't be doing things that are marketed at an audience of mostly adults. Perhaps the age of consent is a bit lower in Japan as opposed to the United States but I've also heard nothing in this story about parents being involved so it all just makes me feel kind of icky.

[@Meta7]

Iirc the age of drinking in Japan is 20 as well so "underaged drinking" may also mean she was 18-19 years old at the time, old enough to be a legal adult otherwise but not enough to drink.

[@victoriazero8869]

I think people aren't aware that Japan didn't streamline women's legal age until 2010s. Age of marriage raised from 16 to 18 and age of legal contracts lowered from 20 to 18 for girls. Until that point, they're all at the mercy of parental consent. So Haachama most likely got her contract signed by her parents, just like most underage flesh Idols.

[@kevinnio]

Well, vtubing back then wasn't a formal business, just like the early days of youtubing. I highly doubt there were any contracts. Vtubing content were mostly produced by passionate young people with a young audience, for the most part.

[@HudaefCares]

I think age of consent in most places is 16. HC is theorized to be 16 at the time as was Haachama and supposedly Shion.

[@zeroanimation3956]

maybe because at that time the wage from being Hololive talent isn't that much and can be compared to part-time jobs. Now Cover is a multimillionaire company, they have to restrict the age because the wage got increased to professional job standards.

[@nezu_cc]

Glad to have you back. I hope that break served you well. Thank you for the amazing video and for touching on topics most would consider taboo.

[@lareolanKFP]

Welcome back DN! We missed you and your content!

[@gudaograndorder54]

Glad your back my dude appreciate the lore vid as always!!

[@Adam.C]

Wow, I'd never heard of anything about this. It's crazy. I'm glad to see you posting videos again! Hope you're doing well.

[@ImmortalInflames]

This is the stuff we enjoy most about your work. Genuine insights of VTuber history that can be easily lost in the sands of time. I was watching Matsuri in the early days, I didn't really understand that Hololive was a company or she gen mates when I first started watching. It would a couple months later until Chris popped up on my radar & I couldn't find her KZbin ch. That's when I naturally dug abit.. nothing weird, certainly nothing private.. just enough to be sure that yeah she was apart of Hololive! Over the years I certainly heard the rumours in passing.. but there was one detail that always stood out to me... her age! To be clear I don't know her age, just that she was often mentioned as Miseinen. Mix that in with as far as I know (and again I don't look up these things, but watch VTubers long enough, you hear things) we never heard her side of all of the events that took place.. I'm thankful you mentioned both points as I feel they are very important in a fair & balance coverage of Chris, especially when key bits of the information will likely never surface. Everything I've heard over the time is Chris seems quite naive, eager to step into the adult word & chase a dream. I do wonder how things would have turned out if she never mentioned such things on stream & left him once financially stable... though I fear we would possibly dox regardless.. In the end he had the power & probably a noticeable age gap too... I'm not saying Chris is innocent, but I dare say he should take the weight of the blame.

[@starxakk]

WE MISSED YOU!!!❤❤❤

[@bltnbetterlatethannever2105]

Thank you for the info. I knew bits and pieces of Chris' story but not the full outline you had - great job! And the poignant what might have been at the end.

[@shiroe2102]

Im so glad to have you back, I really like your narrative other than others who are drama mongers and the like. Yours are the best informative and neutral and really looked into the details with concrete reasoning and uptake. I hope you stay and continue once again!

[@Awootistic]

You alright now dude? It seems you got your shit together again. Hey man, no pressure. Good on you for getting back up and back on the grind again.

[@SWIFTO_SCYTHE]

Were you in the live stream? Hes doing well and good in University. And we all need breaks from our hobbies once and a while.

[@bigmoist990]

Glad you covered this ese, tried digging into this myself but didn't know where to start and couldn't find as much info as you did

[@jasonZoo123]

Dude. I miss this type of Documentary vids for Vtubers. Welcome back my dude. I've always been waiting.

[@fernandoarcos7202]

You may have not returned yet, but is great to see you again :3

[@ddwkc]

Good to have you back. Hope more mature and bright as ever! I'd be cool if you could partner up with Japanese sources although it could be hard to check the reliability of information out there. Lot of holomem cases seem cases of being at the right place with the right people and time meanwhile Hitomi's case seem to be the inverse. Overall Cover did a really good job at recruiting and hiring overall. Just 2 problematic hires out of 30+ isn't that bad. I have seen worse in both Kpop and Jpop.

[@Nomarura]

So glad he’s covering this! I’ve been curious about Hitomi but struggled to find reliable info about her!

[@TheRandomboy47]

Damn, I didn’t expect to see this in my feed. Welcome back!

[@godalseif]

oh man i never knew. i had seen hints that there was a member i didnt know but nobody would elaborate. thank you so much. wild to think this is possible the most scandalous scandal of them all but also the least known

[@edenromanov]

WB DeNo! A very interesting topic to cover, can't wait to see what you uncovered.

[@Charles_Drakkan]

Is good to see you again In here man hope everything is going well, and damn what a heavy subject to come back, respect man

[@ak6427]

lol, I thought I hadn't bothered to look into Chris' history but apparently I did at some point and didn't remember anymore. Cheers for the refresher

[@carloniano]

11:40 this guy talks about "WACTOR" in his description, knowing that he doxxed this girl I can assume that he maybe has something to do with WACTOR because this company recently doxxed one of his talents. IDK.

[@vtgalover8213]

He has made another video and it may be a single video and then will disappear back to the shadow for who knows how long but even a breadcrumb is a blessing as his research into these topics are pretty extensive and is enjoyable to watch and understand. 👑 🐇

[@adelramsatetsu2721]

missed u man, you videos taught me alot about vtuber history

[@Smugtortise123]

Welcome back! I'm happy to see another video 😢

[@mrfoxypants809]

I was shocked and incredibly happy when I saw a notification pop up with this channel name

[@Jorgaso]

That man already did similar things with other vtubers, for example with Hana Tsukito from Wactor, he cheated her with supposed help and she in the end had to graduate because of it.

[@sonic32070]

Nice vid man, I was curious about Chris but couldn't find any info until you posted this.

[@grifftown]

Aw man letsgooo! missed ya bro I had to do a double-take at the thumbnail. Seriously needed this right now.

[@GameFuMaster]

This whole drama could have been avoided if Hitomi had just returned the equipment when asked.

[@saniwada]

from what we know it seems she had slept with him multiple times allready at that point, she honestly owned him nothing. if she really was a minor like he claimed hes lucky that he isnt in prison right now for rape.

[@GameFuMaster]

@@saniwada lol, so if someone rents a home and pays their rent, after a while, they don't owe the landlord anything and can keep the home?

[@saniwada]

@@GameFuMaster she wasn't renting, he bought it for her. she (a minor) was paying him in sexual favours (EXTREMELY ILLIGAL). if this situation went to court she would win and he would go to prison.

[@GameFuMaster]

@@saniwada then maybe she should have taken it to court. I can't be bothered rewatching the video, but I think it was only speculation, so maybe she had no basis. Anyway, at 5:24 it says "lending".

[@icebox1954]

@@saniwada She's still the one in the wrong and did owe him his equipment back as she went back on the deal. It doesn't matter what the law says, if you make a deal and is able to consent then you're responsible for upholding it. Stop simping for her, like most females she'll sell her body to get what she wants, that's just how females are. Now that she had used him to get into Hololive she wanted to end it because he was no longer convenient for her. She's as much of an abuser and predator as he is.

[@alanepithet2931]

Man, having been part of the Hololive community for several years (and having done much of the same dumpster diving you did to learn the story, Nousagi), I can only say that this entire situation was a tragedy from start to finish.

[@oJaymey]

This whole situation is just really tragicto be honest. I hope wherever she is she’s ok and maybe streaming or will stream thanks for covering this

[@nutshot_brawler8466]

Good to see you back, I've missed your content, I hope you've learned something following the previous incident, and conduct yourself better from now on, friend

[@MetaKnuxXbeats]

Surprised to see you again so soon. Especially talking about this subject. This was always a subject I was always curious about since only a few people ever talk about her and any footage of her is really hard to come by.

[@thejamesonthestreet]

Cover nuked any videos that talks about her, especially with a clip of her "debut". Even this video might not last.

[@MetaKnuxXbeats]

@@thejamesonthestreet huh, then I guess I better be careful if I ever plan to use footage of her in any video in the future

[@thejamesonthestreet]

@@MetaKnuxXbeats it was a bitter and unsavory history after all. Even the "facts" presented here might as well be a "controlled facts" about what happen.

[@maximilianomolina5975]

@@thejamesonthestreet the only places where I found things were some old post from lolcow or other sites like it where there are links from the webtime machine or archive

[@anonymousmind8402]

Hitomi Chris, the Unknown Primarch of Hololive. Both were involved at (or at least close to) the beginning of their organisation, then fell out of favour for mysterious reasons and had all information about them scrubbed by the higher-ups. Now, any mention of them are silenced by their respective groups, save in secret. As for me, I only heard of her from browsing at TVTropes (don't ask). Even so, I figured that she was bad news when everything about her in the website pointed out that no-one could talk about her. Heck, even Hololive CN, however despicable they were, can begrudgingly be recognised as former members while Hitomi is completely cut-off from the main group. Though it may have more to do with the former sticking around for much longer. As for how I think of this situation, I am undecided on who was on the wrong. I am leaning on "M" being the problem, as he started by insisting on being in a relationship - never a good thing in any industry - and did the hard dox on her. Though Hitomi's actions are not much better - theft and what-not. Alas, as long as she does not speak her side, "M" is all we have for the information even if possibly half of it are lies. I suspect that Cover Corp may have further investigated it and discovered more which led to their decision, but that is just conjecture. Finally, Depressed Nousagi, I did not expect to see you here so soon. But welcome back all the same.

[@thesaplingturtle290]

So happy to see you back. Hope you stay!

[@XionicAihara]

Heard of Hitomi, but never ventured down that rabbit hole, partially didn't care. Thanks for the video, glad to see you are still around!

[@Mordeiv]

Oh boy our boy is back. Sure missed this guy.

[@kiixyz]

Dziękuję za powrót, Pamiętaj aby się nie przemęczać

[@rtstrong]

one banger of video! welcome back, Nousagi!

[@TonkotsuTo]

Glad to have you back, Nousagi! I've already heard of Hitomi Chris before but never knew about her termination since, and looking for information about it was impossible. Anyways thanks and welcome back :v

[@axistempest2860]

Didn't expect to see an upload from you to be completely honest but I welcome it.

[@PuzzledHunk]

Good to see you're still making videos telling their stories for us man! They way you tell them is really intriguing and informative at the same time :D

[@victoriazero8869]

ELLO D.N. I've been waiting for your return. Thanks for another biting and depressing yet enlightening video on VTuber deep lore.

[@uzura538]

My Dude, it is nice to hear your voice again! Thank you that you are still with us~

[@Anonymous-x1x]

I was looking through the Hololive wiki to see where every idol started. I saw Hitomi Chris and said who? Then I was even more confused when I saw 0 content from her. Thanks for solving the mystery and welcome back.

[@DogratDavis]

Welcome back bud. You were missed.

[@A_Ice_Wizard]

I didn't think we'd see you again, but I'm glad you're back, even if it's just for one video.

[@mityablair8666]

Glad to see you back! I hope you're at least doing better!

[@undercovertakodachi4301]

when the community needed him most, My man Returned.🎉🎉🎉

[@SenseiRaisen]

WAIT!!! 4:04 I understand some Japanese ... and if i don't mistake ... this person also work on Folia and WACTOR? because if is that, no wonder why there is lot of problems surrounded them if this guy works with them too. Also, its kinda ironic if you think she was the true time travel in lore. But Amelia became the time travel simply by her quick thinking during her debut and stay as that character when she was meant to only be a dective.

[@Jorgaso]

I read on one site that this guy also made a deal to help Hana Tsukito but in the end he cheated her and that's why she ended up graduating.

[@SenseiRaisen]

@@Jorgaso That make a lot of sense too. This guy is danger and has it write it all over his face.

[@samakechijowo]

Welcome back! Looking forward to enjoy your quality contents again!

[@RoninHayato]

That's was really interesting, I barely knew about her, another excellent video, good to see you back.

[@Wyrdwad]

To be fair, it wasn't just Chris and Rushia who were fired from Hololive, but the six members of Hololive China as well. But that's sort of its own thing, so I get not really counting it.

[@animeking1357]

Didn't the CN girls actually all get graduation streams though? Could've swore they did.

[@Lync512]

THE KING HAS RETURNED!!

[@AaronDefensive]

So happy to see you upload again DN ❤

[@johnysimps1191]

So happy you uploaded again. Hope you will continue to upload

[@Reymax164]

Poor Hitomi, she could have been popular… and now, she's treated like a sh*t by others. *What an opportunity she have missed.*

[@georgeuferov1497]

Fun fact, Hitomi's Marshmallow page is still up

[@owaowa6818]

Thanks for feeding us again. Missed u and ur content sm ❤

[@baronsamedi5741]

Welcome back Nousagi. We missed your analysis videos

[@roundcat1992]

Welcome back, Nousagi.😁 In the past, you could say that Gen 1 really couldn't be called "collaborating" at that time because Hololive was really still small plus besides Hitomi Chris, there were several members who had experienced cases, namely Yozora Mel, she was considered to have brought content that was rather sensitive and was afraid she would be banned while Akirose been on leave for a long time due to an accident. Akirose even once confided like that about her very hard experience and how hard it was for Lamy and Noel at that time.

[@NIkolla13]

Hitomi is like the Nameless King of Hololive, erased from the annals of history.

[@kilan4978]

BRO I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL IM SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK!!

[@wilsonyeo1078]

Glad to have you're back nao

[@SerialK1986]

Well, I didn't think you'd make a comeback, yet here we are. a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one! 😊

[@bentibz2750]

Now add Mel to the Vtuber terminated abruptly by Hololive

[@jimmytsunami5275]

Perhaps her termination was perhaps a stress free one, considering that her final stream was perhaps a foreshadowed goodbye stream towards Hololive and that her compliments towards her genmembers before her broken NDA were like a silent goodbye letter of resignation all in one. Cover and its talents cared deeply for Mel, and just like Pomu Rainpuff, they allowed her to let her go without any allegations or controversies after thanking her for the past 5 years. Whatever Mel has in store for life after her departure, I only hope for her to accomplish the best happiness in life.

[@user-ie5nk3jk4u]

yesterday's stream revealed the trusting relationship between Mel and Hololive.

[@jimmytsunami5275]

@@user-ie5nk3jk4u what was it

[@rivy-lurk-869]

Glad to see ya again, Nousagi. Hope you're doing well, this is a great video! I'll be waiting until the next upload once more

[@kencaldi]

How nice to have you back Nousagi. Welcome back!

[@unsuspectingman]

Hello Nousagi, weird to see you back But i’m happy about it. Personally, I love your content, keep at it man.

[@tunnel0]

The void, that you left in the community after leaving was massive and absolutely noone was actually capable of filling it, despite how many tried. And still, the last one, I thought would fill this void from Depressed Nousage was you yourself. Considering what you talked about what you'd do afterwards, this probably isn't what you wanted to happen. But still it's lighting myself and the fans of you up again. Knowing that the true historian returned.

[@c0smicsands]

Good to see you back and posting again.

[@xarrahredemption3442]

Thank you for making this video! ;< I feel very bad to the lost vtubers on hololive and has bad history