HOA charging homeowners to park on their own street

Residents of a Littleton housing development are upset their homeowner’s association will begin charging them to park on the street.
Residents of a Littleton housing development are upset their homeowner’s association will begin charging them to park on the street. "There's not any room to park here. It's an alley," he said, pointing out the lack of driveways or space near homes. "That was one of my first questions, 'where is the access to parking? Where will our guests park?' The answer was street parking curbside on Channel Drive."
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[@conrioakfield414]

Why people would buy within an HOA is beyond me.

[@kristajohnson9173]

to get gardening and external repairs covered at a monthly rate- ive seen it work great for aging but not quite old folks home age people. that said, there's also like this nazi THINGS HAVE TO LOOK PERFECT vibe to a lot of your typical HOAs. some people like that i guess?

[@MrShuntking]

Agreed. Biggest purchase most people will ever make is buying their home. And you are going to let Karen and Ken tell you what you can and can't do. Or even worse then Karen and Ken, some management company who really do just want as much cash out of your pocket as they can get.

[@kimbok5971]

@@kristajohnson9173 But if the HOA is charging exorbitant rates for said maintenance, it is not a deal at all. Easier for me to do as much as I can and then pay a local for extra help outside.

[@JBG20]

I made that mistake once. Never again.

[@Sunshine4]

Sometimes people can only afford a condo.

[@rodneykent8023]

This is exactly why you don't buy a home where you have to deal with a HOA board. You couldn't pay me to live in a home ran by a HOA board. If I buy a house I want to be free to do whatever I want with the property.

[@jasonrustmann7535]

Two friends, Smith. and Wesson. Are real good with negotiating with wannabe dictators like HOA's

[@Shadow__133]

@Oli G And the cops protecting these mobsters are also friends with Smith, Wesson, Sauer and Mr Glock.

[@rodneykent8023]

@Oli G where I'm form (Southern Ohio) there's very few communities that have HOA boards.

[@lopoa126]

Instead you get neighbors that do exactly what the HOA does. The sheet brain rot from you kids.

[@dancalmpeaceful3903]

Same here.....that is EXACTLY how I feel. Worst legal scam around....

[@mariluornelas7914]

That's one of the reasons to not buy A PROPERTYBWITH HOA.

[@Jen39x]

The purpose of an HOA is to set standards of “conduct” for mutually owned property and making heavy populated areas easier to live in. An HOA for other purposes is crazy. Having lived in a rural setting for 50 years and then to condo I can’t imagine living with this many people close by without rules about parking or leaving junk cars sit or not hauling your trash can back in sooner rather than later, etc

[@kevinm3751]

I have walked away from a number of good real deals simply because there was an HOA. I refuse to deal with these bullish, totally useless barons! Anyone that lives in an HOA home deserves exactly what they get!

[@spocksvulcanbrain]

First, if these are public streets, the HOA is attempting something illegal. Second, issue parking stickers (not charged for) so that you can distinguish residence from outside parking (like from the complex across the street). Third, allow residents to print out a 24-hour parking pass to put in windows for guests. I had to do that in Sacramento for 2 years and it wasn't that bad. Fourth, I'd examine the bylaws and see if the HOA can unilaterally implement new fees without being voted on by the homeowners. Fifth, make sure you call the tow company immediately EACH AND EVERY time one of the board members or their guests parks on the street. One thing that keeps those power-hungry board members in check is being affected by their own rules.

[@BrooklynBalla]

Were did it say they're public?You ever hear of gated/private communities?

[@spocksvulcanbrain]

@@BrooklynBalla Damn. Can you READ. Nowhere did I say they were public. I literally said "if" because it isn't clear from the video. Quit being so triggered. I understand there are private and public roads. That's why I said "if."

[@RetirementFund750]

I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be public because he said the money from the paid parking would go towards fixing the roads so I’m guessing they aren’t public but idk.. I think your idea about parking passes is the best bet myself and they could just have someone that patrols and if a car doesn’t have a pass then tow it. But I definitely don’t think they should charge that’s bs.

[@BrooklynBalla]

@@spocksvulcanbrain No ones triggered.I simply misread your comment.Relax a bit.

[@crabkilla]

These are private streets has in all condo/townhome developments

[@michaelvandermarliere7820]

Listen, don't move into where a HOA exists!

[@sferg9582]

Anymore, good luck with that. I tried to not move into an HOA community, but there wasn't anything that was available that was worth moving into. I despise HOA's but that seems to be the norm anymore. If you aren't happy with the HOA's board, vote them out.

[@postholedigger8726]

Property associations are so corrupt and powerful, that is becoming less of an option. No homeowner who has an IQ above a fire hydrant wants anything to do with them.

[@LL-bl8hd]

Easier said than done these days. It's almost impossible to find anything affordable that's not a condo or townhouse.

[@michiyodoll9916]

Why not walking and driving permits on HOA street .

[@TrollinOn22s]

My HOA has me paying for balcony repairs but I'm on the bottom floor with no balcony 🙄

[@elizagrogan9454]

I changed plans when I noticed the lack of parking when I was purchasing a house. Found even nicer house with double garage & double driveway. No HOA and started a neighbourhood watch instead.

[@bjjpenguin]

Fuck yeah! Started a neighborhood watch? Local legend to me :) God bless!

[@jbar_85]

I started my own neighborhood watch when our HOA didn’t take local crime seriously. We walk every few days, a group of us, and speak with our neighbors about the happenings in their parts.

[@trekgirl65]

No place to park would have been warning bells ringing in my head.

[@ge2623]

I started a neighborhood watch too. I named it the NSDAP. We all wore brown shirts and had these camps...

[@jbar_85]

@@ge2623 we got shirts coming! “Little Miss Neighborhood Watch 🕵🏻‍♂️👀”

[@canileaveitblank1476]

ALWAYS ask who sits on the Board. If board members are not CURRENT tenants, DO NOT PURCHASE! OR, better yet, avoid HOA’s at all costs!

[@bellagirlgirl8827]

The HOA that we belonged to had an annual election for its members, so things could be fine when you move in and crazy the year after. We sold the condo, done with them.

[@oneofmany1087]

FUCKING RIP OFFS

[@HunterSmokes]

@@bellagirlgirl8827 Different states and counties have different rules but elections, quarterly meetings, financial reviews etc are all mandated by law typically.

[@DarthRaider]

I don't understand how someone who isn't a tenant could even be the President. At that point , the hoa should be disassembled

[@pinkyde1570]

Most issues I've seen were from residents on the HOA. Never buy in an HOA period!

[@ElementofKindness]

I have no compassion for anyone choosing to buy into an HOA.

[@wowzers6178]

It's mind boggling how Americans don't want government protections and are ok with corporate control 🤷

[@bradwellen5765]

Get Out / For Sale. Say No to HOA's Greedy Crooks. 53 homes 20 parking spots. Poor planning, (Shouldn't have been allowed to build). BS.

[@neilkurzman4907]

But they were allowed to build. By the builder, and the county planning board. Before the HOA existed. And everyone of those homeowners saw that when they bought it.

[@Jen39x]

Yea had to think it was extremely short sighted of those who bought. Don’t they ever plan on giving a party or otherwise entertaining? The kid you keep every other weekend or every weekend depending on the divorce agreement is going to grow up and drive some day

[@kimbok5971]

It seems to me that purchasing a home within an HOA puts you totally at their mercy for as long as you live there and gives the HOA carte blanche to add whatever charge they want, even if it was not in place when you purchased & signed on, to the HOA. I think back in the day, HOAs were something that worked well for a certain buyer and did not get crazy with rules & fees. But nowadays, all I hear is horror stories about not only rules but fees being added, after the home is purchased, at the whim of the HOA. No way would I ever live in, or purchase, a home within an HOA.

[@dancalmpeaceful3903]

You're exactly right. That's the reason I got OUT of an apartment. I was tired of renting and their rules. If you're in an HOA, you continually have monthly fees that keep going up, and up, and up, and up. Just like RENT.

[@demmenhavvags6385]

@Casper's Studio Sure, living under an oppressive organization that uses intimidation and the threat of excessive fees to gain control over you is something that anyone would do. Not 'anyone' who is intelligent, but it would certainly seem like a choice opportunity for the cognitively impaired.

[@davidk.6042]

This is why you never buy a house linked to a Home Owners Association (HOA). The concept of it is genuinely UnAmerican. You buy property. . . and then other people near you tell you what you can and can't do with it. 👎

[@gailhasler8435]

Absolutely right 👍💯

[@ColbyBaber]

David, whether you are under an HOA or not, someone still tells you what you can or can't do with your property. It's some level of government, whether it's an HOA, the city, the county, or the state. Ever hear of building codes? Zoning laws? Many cities have ordinances about lawn length, easements, and so on. So you're statement is just wrong, it's not unamerican to form an HOA or live under one. HOA's are formed by the developers and property owners to begin with. In America, they have the FREEDOM to organize and form an HOA if that's what they wish to do. And actually, HOA's are deeply rooted in American history. You see, they were first popularized in the post-WWII era of massive expansion into suburbs. White people wanted to keep out minorities from their neighborhoods, so HOA's were established that would restrict the types of houses that could be build ($$$), and with many other rules to make it impossible for minorities to live in the neighborhood.

[@davidk.6042]

@Oli G Did you write this while drunk? I hope so. Otherwise you might want to seek some help. People finance houses all the time through bank loans, and settle into communities that don't have HOAs. As far as housing for millions, we already have those in America. It's called Section 8. Not to be confused with a Section 8 that exists in the U.S. military. . . which i'm sure you'd easily qualify for that one.

[@davidk.6042]

@@ColbyBaber There is clearly a difference between the organizations you mentioned vs. an HOA. With the exception of the Homeless, practically every American has to deal with those other organizations. My point is, why buy a house in a neighborhood that is part of an HOA when you genuinely don't have to? Benefits to you as a new homeowner: Zero. Headaches to you: Countless.

[@dancalmpeaceful3903]

Yup ......Democrats or Communism....same thing.

[@zane8789]

Imagine having to pay to park in front of your house lmao

[@carlogambino8594]

🤣😂😂😂, suck tho for those guys

[@organicmagic8822]

LOLOLOLOLOL

[@bjjpenguin]

These residents need to go watch Yellowstone and figure out how these things USED to be handled before everyone became soft.

[@kimbok5971]

Well if you think that's crazy there was just a KZbin video recently where an HOA sent out notice to those in their community that they had to keep their garage doors open from something like 8am until 5pm, or thereabouts. Unbelievable stories about HOAs these days. I'm surprised people buy an HOA property at all.

[@MrBlueTimes]

@@bjjpenguin The guys attitude at the end 'you just got to live with it" Lol things will only get worse with that attitude

[@helidude3502]

“You just have to live with it” No, you don’t. Refuse to buy into a HOA. If enough people refuse to buy, they won’t have them. If you are in a HOA, go to the meetings and vote. Vote for local, state, and federal representatives that support the people. Vote for laws that support the people. Don’t just “live with it”

[@normagordon1375]

I 💯 agree with you!

[@woodman3416]

If the HOA is still figuring which towing companies to use, they have already decided to charge for street parking.

[@nickanderson412]

Signing up with an HOA is giving your life to the Karens, and they have no limits.

[@MrMadbrowncow]

I can't think of truer words to this.

[@drybizcuit1914]

There is plenty of space to park, if you need more parking than that then maybe you should have less cars...

[@asain3586]

@@drybizcuit1914 Imagine blaming the homeowners than greedy avoidable scheme ran by greedy people

[@LadyLondonDDG]

Why someone would WANT to move into a home with an HOA is beyond me!

[@RegisterRedVoteBlue]

People love making sure their neighbors don't paint their houses pink, leave the garbage cans out too long or the Christmas lights up past December 31st

[@Opal5674]

Idk either. I like being freeeee

[@TheMsJericaShow]

The homes resell very well and maintain their prices

[@powertothesheeple5422]

@@RegisterRedVoteBlue I think it has a lot more to do with laziness... Usually the HOA includes lawn/landscaping service, snow removal, in-ground sprinkler systems, and in some cases like where my parents live - repairs to the outside of the house/condo. Lots of people just like to write a check instead of doing anything themselves. Hence why things like getting fast food or groceries delivered is so popular.

[@vorant77]

Unfortunately all new developments within my county are required to form an HOA , so new homes are NOT on my list and even older subdivisions have them is also a deal breaker.

[@robertl7239]

You can only imagine the childhood and homelife of these HOA Board Members in their younger years. I'll guarantee you that, as a kid, at least one of them used to walk up and down the street with a pad of paper and issue "tickets" to people who had a weed, a gnome, a cat sitting on the porch, or a car that hadn't been washed in the last 7-days.

[@lopoa126]

Conservatives do tend to dominant HOA boards

[@wlonsdale1]

@@lopoa126 YOu must live under a rock

[@dancalmpeaceful3903]

That's the job that the BTK serial killer had....when he was killing people... Seriously - check it out. It's true.

[@tiamystic]

Lmao

[@MiracleFound]

Way to depreciate the home values HOA! No one in their right mind will buy those houses just to be mistreated.

[@stevenwright6573]

This is why you never buy a home where an HOA is involved. Too often its filled with a bunch of busy bodies with control issues. I keep my noise down at the proper times, my yard is clean 24/7 and I respect my neighbors. Buying some land with 100 yards of property between you and the nearest neighbor isn't a bad idea either. Surround the perimeter with a 6 ft cedar fence, then 9 ft high laurels just inside that is perfect. They can't see in or hear anything pretty much. Perfect.

[@dancalmpeaceful3903]

Have a mean-ass dog that is ONLY loyal to you......just another suggestion.

[@stevenwright6573]

@Casper's Studio I hear ya. I'm just not the type of person who wants neighbors close to me. Here in Washington state where I live, there are beautiful new developments all over, but those 600k homes are literally 20 ft apart. You open your windows on a sunny day and your neighbors hear everything you say. Way too close. I live in eastern king county. 60% of the homes are .5 to 3 acres. That's what I would prefer. I don't buy a home with neighbors in mind in any way. Other than the fact they don't make me regret living near them.

[@conner_b_griften]

These little local gov'ts (CSD, school board, HOA, whatever) are the worst. It's a scam.

[@bryanfouts287]

So glad I don’t have to put up with the BS of an HOA

[@Clayton_J]

The space between the home and lack of landscaping is outrageous

[@theblondeone8426]

im sure they mowed down some beautiful trees to build the monstrocity

[@Allan_A]

Seems like a private street if the HOA is already collecting for future repairs. As to "there's nothing we can do about it," yes there is. That thick stack of papers you read before signing the PA tells you exactly what you can do about it. There are bylaws and they probably can't add fees without a vote by owners. You can also get involved in running the HOA - it's a home owner's association. And finally, if you can't be bothered to read that stack of papers, perhaps don't commit to spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to join a HOA!

[@willieverusethis]

Thank you. The job of serving on an HOA board is thankless, and you have a bunch of people who don't understand that yes, they do have to pay for new roofing or pool repairs or street maintenance or any of the other very expensive things about owning a house in a communal setting. Many HOAs are Homeowner Associations, as the name states, and they are democratically run, with elections etc. Owners who are not involved are the ones who usually whine to the press before going to meetings and making their feelings known.

[@DCBChump]

"There are 53 homes here and only 20 parking spaces." Seems like very poor planning. Maybe should have had slightly larger lots instead of trying to cram as many units in the area as possible.

[@Dontworryboutit315]

Sounds almost like the government officials and zoning board bit the dick with this one and allowed them to build

[@katydid2877]

The owners need to have the books audited. Sounds like mismanagement.

[@royaldiadem_]

Sadly… they don’t know it’s just the beginning. They are just in a Venus fly trap of bogus fees and don’t even realize it yet.

[@deltahomicide9300]

Well said. An apartment we invested in keeps billing residents for fabricated services. They're so cheap they don't turn on hallway lights or provide trash bins. And yes we have to pay for parking

[@cheryljones8875]

That’s why I will NEVER deal with an HOA again! Where I had lived, they wanted people to volunteer to change lightbulbs in the hallways! That’s what I was paying dues for!

[@pdxyyz4327]

1. Will never own in an HOA. 2. If you do then understand the rules before you buy. 3. Understand the rules can change and you need to be active in the HOA to ensure it doesn't get out of hand. 4. How many are using their garage for storage instead of parking?

[@pdxyyz4327]

​@@jaykline8550 Yes they are, see #3 above. Be involved, go to the meetings speak up, otherwise this is what happens.

[@Jen39x]

I agree with all but #1 but as always there are a lot of people who would rather argue with neighbors than have a clear guideline (HOA rules) for conduct and neighborhood appearance

[@pdxyyz4327]

@@Jen39x That's why you have local code enforcement. The city has specific rules for conduct and appearance. HOA's like condo associations are made up of your neighbors who have nothing better to do than get up in your business and control what you do with your property.

[@sootymammal2891]

You signed an agreement with the HOA when you moved in. Also, sounds like there wasn't enough parking designed into the neighborhood. Check zoning laws. Get together as a group and vote out your HOA. If this fee wasn't in the original agreement, sue.

[@shebutter3195]

Yes sue them.

[@postholedigger8726]

Sooty Mammal, First, many people who purchase a home are not properly informed at the time of purchase. Some people find out about an HOA several months, or in some cases several years, after purchasing the home. They find out about the HOA when a legal document is delivered to them threatening to foreclose on their house is they don't pay the past dues and fines. Second, If a person purchases a home and insists that they want nothing to do with an HOA, they are told they will not be allowed to purchase the home unless they join. THAT IS EXTORTION BY DEFINATION. Membership in ANY property association should be voluntary with an option allowing a homeowner to quit at the homeowner's choosing. It is fair to restrict the use of property association facilities to members only, but that choice should and must be the homeowner's option. PHD

[@jordesign]

Who pays the attorney fees?

[@billcosby8603]

Everyone was forced to sign. This is the new white way. Move in, take over, never relinquish even after you don't live there anymore. That's the white way. HOA consist of white people that want free money cause they are white and feel they own the neighborhood.

[@jordesign]

@@billcosby8603 🤣

[@jeremyward81]

Already fixing a brand new street is all you need to know about the quality you just spent your life savings on

[@andyking9673]

a customer of mine builds developments---the roads are not paved until the construction is complete, and the paving process is just throwing asphalt down on whatever is there---no gravel, no compaction, he knows the roads that he then gives to the city is complete garbage.

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@andyking9673 Often HOAs own the street. So it is their responsibility. In many other tourist diction the street is inspected before the county accepts it. For the exact reason you mentioned.

[@andyking9673]

@@neilkurzman4907 in the city I live the inspection department is just for show---they can do a plumbing inspection without getting out of their car!!!

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@andyking9673 If that’s what the people in your jurisdiction want, then that’s what they get. In Mine the complaint is the opposite. They are too picky

[@andyking9673]

@@neilkurzman4907 it's what the developers want, my city is run by big real estate developers, the mayor was one of the biggest. the citizens don't know that the mayor's company is buying real estate from the city before its even advertised for sale to the public

[@Hallettjs7957]

Why in the hell would you buy there if you knew there was no parking?

[@billp4]

So people couldn't come to bother you?

[@Hallettjs7957]

@@billp4 Ok, but you missed the part about the tenents then complaining about not having parking.

[@SugarFreeTargets]

"The money can be used to fix streets". Even cities rarely do that when it comes to downtown parking. The housing market is just one big meme at this point.

[@broheme8922]

Would I buy a property with an HOA? Not in a million years.

[@billp4]

How about two million?

[@broheme8922]

@@billp4 Well then yeah, I'd have to do it.

[@kennethsouthard6042]

There's 53 homes and 20 parking spaces. Sounds to me like they have a problem where you have people with either more cars than their garage can handle or they're not using their garage to store cars and parking them on the street. Given the few number of spaces it doesn't take too many people to do that before you exhaust the number of spaces.

[@scottrussell6717]

Exactly

[@timtutiul1737]

You should’ve balanced your space available by redesigning the property and allowing for that not later charging them for it so you can line your pockets

[@southerncharmed4118]

Don’t ever buy a house with an HOA! I’d rather look at a car sitting on cinderblocks any day than have some egotistical maniac walking around my property to measure my grass and tell me what I can and can’t do on the land that I pay over 2 grand a month to live on!

[@lkd06]

Me too! People need to get a life and mind their own damn business

[@alphapred]

whyte trash. At least whyte trash with an HOA has standards

[@rustyshackelford3371]

Seeing a car on cinderblocks, or a trash can left out after pickup, those are small prices to pay to not being harassed over stupid crap. Stay away from HOAs.

[@AFTone144]

Exactly! People don't realize the HOA is a business and need money to operate. Their costs increase annually, so will your fees and BS fines! They are NOT there to protect your "property value" LMAO. They actually ruin it because NOBODY with a brain wants to buy in a HOA now. Proof is in the comments.

[@simonelliot3712]

I fertilized my lawn such that a big FU grows extra tall each week.

[@rogerhuber3133]

HOA's are a double-edged sword. For the good they do maintaining a quality environment they cause so much grief for the owners with their petty and often stupid decisions and rules.

[@stanstanlison5791]

At this point, how do you not know that HOAs have all these extra fees?

[@Whatorwellsaid21]

I rather rent forever than “own” in an HOA. There is a reason why houses are cheaper when they have HoA and why they emphasize “NO HOA” in big letters when they don’t.

[@FirstHillSeattle]

Actually, HOAs typically raise the value of your home because the neighborhood looks nicer. Bottom line is if you have more cars than fit in your garage, whether there's an HOA or not, why would you buy in a neighborhood with no driveways and limited on-street parking? Dumb.

[@billp4]

@@FirstHillSeattle Been in both and it didn't seem to matter.

[@FirstHillSeattle]

@@billp4 That's fine. I only owned my last house for 3 years (new construction, HOA) and sold it for a 250K profit. Anyone who says they'd rather rent forever than own in an HOA is basically saying "I'll show you, I'll screw me". Freedom can mean a lot of things. To me having financial security is more important than not letting someone tell me I have to water my lawn.

[@Tully96]

Those houses hella ugly Edit: HOA: We hear you, we are looking for a solution. Also HOA: In the meantime we're deciding who to have tow your car

[@billp4]

I know, my brother in law. He promised me a big kickback.

[@zfouleur2904]

When will people learn to avoid HOA housing options. It's literally common sense.

[@mtache12]

I love owning my home and being able to pay for the repairs / maintenance that I want done and also using my preferred contractor. I don’t see many pros with an HOA but I also hate rules. I love to keep my house in great shape but I’m not sweating my neighbors.

[@kimbok5971]

It was one of the biggest attractions of even becoming a homeowner in the first place: doing what I wanted to my property, when I wanted to.

[@falsegods3434]

As it should be. Why on Earth would you buy property where somebody else can tell you what to do when you're paying for it?

[@FirstHillSeattle]

I've lived in two HOAs....netiher dicated what contractor I could use on home improvements. That seems really odd. Essentially what your HOA officers are doing are sending business to their cronies. If I were you I'd get on the board and stop that.

[@MrMadbrowncow]

You are too privileged to understand, left oc now offgid in San bernardino because damn if you do damn if you don't security for hoa eventually you all become comfortable prisoners to there unregulated greed.

[@bula001]

Unfortunately no one owns anything. Don't believe me, stop paying your taxes and see what happens.

[@sunnydaze1]

I used to manage properties in NorCal. Dealing with HOA's, the boards and the members, sent me to the commercial management side of the industry. At least then I was dealing with semi-professional people. Good luck fighting off a planned community's CC&R's too. Did that in Montgomery County, Maryland in the late 80's - as a renter of a townhome. They banned all open bed trucks, commercial and otherwise. Sold my little red truck, moved back to NorCal and started driving a 280ZX.

[@0124twinlc]

I managed a properties in SoCal and they were all HOA’s it was annoying and I left after a few short months and have been trying to get into commercial management for years but being in residential property management for 20yrs doesn’t quite translate; I worked in Montgomery County, MD as well for years

[@sunnydaze1]

@@0124twinlc Nice to meet you here on social media. We might've crossed paths along the way. I was in SoCal too, but back then did word processing in LA, at Merle Norman Cosmetics Corporate Offices. Never thought I'd be back on the East Coast but here I am in Delaware, and loving it, although the beaches have no backdrop of pretty mountains. Good luck pursuing your dreams! Reach out to like-minded others to advance your career & life, and keep believing in yourself. :)

[@latoyamatson6197]

HOAs are getting out of hand. Seriously. They need shut down.

[@FirstHillSeattle]

LOL...like, shut them down everywhere in the whole world, because that's your opnion? I've lived in both neighborhoods with an HOA and without, and I can say that the issues we had in the non-HOA neighborhood were not worth it. Loud noises, cars parked everywhere, front yards that were dead eyesores....give me an HOA any day. It really comes down to this: if you have more cars that can fit in your garage, maybe don't buy a house that doesn't have a driveway.

[@sooner300]

@@FirstHillSeattle You forgot trampolines in the front yards and people painting their houses bright orange. 🤣🤣 I also lived in both and I'd take HOA any day, especially their ability increase a homes value. I totally agree with your last statement about the driveway also!

[@thinkaboutlife5335]

@@sooner300 just wait for the flip side the illusion of HOA neighborhood are wearing off

[@williamkelley7654]

You have to be out of your mind to voluntarily sign a HOA agreement. Truly stupid.

[@wanaraz]

I had a HOA years back and I hated them. They would foreclose on people going through a hard time for less than a thousand dollars. But I must say when I sold I made a hefty profit.

[@MrMadbrowncow]

First day in Irvine in early 90s, go in the pool with unapproved shorts as a 13 year old kid, 75.00 ticket. I knew then I landed in hell and that was just a taste of what was to come.

[@MikeBrown-ex9nh]

One more reason not to buy a home with an HOA. It's like living in a trailer park, you pay someone to tell you what you can and can't do.

[@fredgervinm.p.3315]

HOAs and out of work control freaks are always a good mix...

[@Jet-xk7ss]

Never ever ever ever live under an HOA

[@susanrolls2211]

What in the world?! The massive squeeze for money from everyday workers is absolutely phenomenal!! I would take this board to court.

[@therealbahamut]

It's one thing to deal with the folks from the apartments across the way, especially if that is not, in fact, their street. Towing people for parking in front of their own house though? Especially after HOA dues and all that? This can't POSSIBLY go wrong...

[@vulcan2882]

I bought my condo a couple of years ago, we were one of the very few that did NOT have an HOA. A few days ago everybody in the building got a letter from some HOA company 1,500 miles away saying they are now our HOA. We have around 45 units in our complex and nobody ever said anything about wanting an HOA here. We all sent that company a letter stating that if they come in or make an attemp to come in we would take actions against that company as we see fit.

[@kate0913kme]

I know that's right. Fight back. How can that just come in and start a HOA. That's crazy. Sounds like they want to make money off of you all.

[@mannfan12]

no one can just come in and declare you are part of an HOA when you haven't been before. They have no legal contract with you.

[@Jen39x]

That’s really odd. Who holds deed to the condo commons and does the business side of caring for commons if you don’t have an HOA? Applies to condos not houses

[@vulcan2882]

@@mannfan12 .. my father's a lawyer and at one time he was an ADA, he said that is not legal in the state I live in.

[@vulcan2882]

@@Jen39x .. all the owners including me own the deed/s to everything here. If something go's wrong and needs to be either fixed or replaced we all chip in to come up with the cost to fix the problem .. only on the outside.

[@davidgerow]

I would never live where there is a HOA.

[@funDAYsmiling]

They knowingly moved into a place without parking and want to complain about it?

[@johnhouchins3156]

If each unit has a two car garage, each unit has two parking places. That leaves 20 "guest parking places". Give each household one guest parking tag to use on a first come, first served use. Each vehicle must display a pass, and if not displayed, tow it at the owner's expense. This should free up the "stolen" spots from the apartment dwellers across the street and give the condo residents an equal shot at the guest spots.

[@mrkevin6354]

Never ever buy a home in a HOA. For those who accepted HOA's.......deal with it

[@titanictx883]

First, I don't get how you can have a Home Owner's Association where the Home Owner's Associated are ignored. Secondly, how does paid parking help improve parking? My city has locals display permits in their windshields for neighborhoods where there is too little parking, but it does't charge them for the permit

[@jasong6027]

Never! I'll take to streets before I go with an HOA. Know that if you know someone who's on an HOA, that person cannot be trusted in any endeavor!

[@midwestusatravel]

Moral of the story-Don't buy a home in a HOA. It's been well established for years what a nightmare HOA's are. I don't have much Sympathy for anyone who buys a home in a HOA neighborhood and finds themselves in these situations.

[@TJ-gi3jo]

Agreed. But it is becoming more difficult to find a home in the burbs or the city that isn't a part of one.

[@LL-bl8hd]

I would love to avoid it but the only thing affordable anymore is a condo or townhouse.

[@alphapred]

I have an HOA. Everything is laid out and explained BEOFRE you sign the contract. If you want autonomy to let your grass grow and house become a shamble don't sign an HOA. Folks want their property values.

[@wygbuu]

@@alphapred you need an HOA to tell you to take care of your property?

[@sooner300]

@@wygbuu No, but he needs it so his lazy neighbors will

[@kevingilchrist3188]

Home owners should never pay for parking in front of their house.

[@Lobsterman5481]

first come first serve

[@brantime90210]

This is why I wont buy a House that has HOA's they can raise the price up anytime they want. You cant make any changes to your house that you own. And they can just add extra fees when ever they feel like it. Its basically a house you bought but your renting.

[@ronque23]

HOAs weee originally formed to keep out “others” from moving into gated communities. Now they have no discrimination in their Brownshirt torment of their residents. Truly a disgusting system all around.

[@laurie113]

HOA’s should be illegal.

[@didamnesia3575]

HOAs have to remove board members at their earliest convenience

[@OminousSoul]

We had our HOA when we first moved in trying to enforce no parking on the streets as almost every house in the neighborhood has people that does it making it a bit cramped driving around. However they stopped that after being informed the streets are city/county/state property and not the HOAs and thus have no authority over them. Other than that, the HOA has relatively been something you will only notice if you leave you Trashcan's out after the pick up day or you let your yard get overgrown with weeds

[@karinaz8756]

Who designs a neighborhood that doesn’t include enough parking spots? Start there.

[@tmrossi2899]

The HOA strikes again!!

[@totalbullion5882]

I hate to say it, but it's your fault for accepting an HOA neighborhood as a place to live. Just say no to HOA

[@thewiseguy3529]

DEAL WITH IT OR MOVE!!!!! THAT'S YOUR OPTIONS. 🇺🇸

[@internetentertainmentmedia2451]

This among many other reasons is why I’ll never live in an area where HOA is involved.

[@danielprivate7442]

Fun Fact: The first HOA was started by Karen McKarenson and was the first person to ever ask their neighbor "is that fence more than six feet tall"?

[@patmcbride9853]

A LOT more neighborhoods have gone HOA than most people believe. It's insane that adults would vote themselves into this insanity, or buy into an HOA neighborhood. So, why is there no agreement with a towing company to share revenue from towing and storing parkers from the apartment complex?

[@RyanStewartUSA]

Youre not getting much choice. The reason most hoods are HOA is because they are PUD (Planned Unit Developments) and the builder does it to save costs. They put in only one main line/meter for water, do attached homes, build those amenities like pools to sell the home. It allows them to turn over homes at maximum profit. And its not like you can just ditch the HOA when they are done because not every house has a water meter, nobody would be maintaining the pools, the streets are private property and need to be maintained, etc.

[@jerryrichardson2799]

HOAs as a professor once noted in a book I read, "That's some nasty politics".

[@CeeTeeUSA]

Never buy a home in a community with HOA involved..

[@sferg9582]

You DON'T "have to live with it". HOA boards can and are regularly voted out and REPLACED. If you don't like your HOA, get busy and replace them. Your voice is important.

[@markdraper3469]

Calling an organization an HOA is on the same level as naming a country People's Democratic Republic. Both are none of those things.

[@williambrereton869]

Agreed HOA’s if you join one you deserve one. That being said much of the responsibility lies on the developers and management trying to squeeze too much out of too little and the county approving it.

[@GGCanLove409]

PETITION AND VOTE to disband the HOA!!!

[@MechaBorne]

New laws ensuring sufficient parking is planned for new developments are needed!

[@billp4]

I don't think we need new laws for ANYTHING. In fact, there are many we could get rid of.

[@joebates3272]

Organize and vote out the current members of the HOA and replace them with like minded people. Until you do that STOP YOUR WHINING.

[@RedsHitpostMedia]

Imagine paying someone a fee to TELL YOU what you can do with your home

[@califdad4]

Homeowners need to get on the HOA board and change it. If they are having issues with neighbors out of the development parking in there, maybe they need free parking passes on in the car window

[@jbjay2884]

Sounds like the real problem is the people from the apartment across the street. The best way to get around that is give every unit atleast one or two parking passes and tow everyone who doesn’t have one,

[@cheryljones8875]

That’s what I was thinking.

[@frakusv2]

I've never seen a video that displayed an HOA in a positive light. EVER!

[@katrummel8045]

For the people, family's that live there Need to fight this. DON'T let the hoa steal more money from you. They ALL need to come together and fight the hoa. Fricking BS! Disgusting hoa doing this to all these homeowners.

[@melodeev5487]

I can understand that they want to issue parking permits to park on the street, especially if the neighbouring complex has cars parked there, but WHY CHARGE MONTHLY FOR THE PERMIT?? Just issue the permits to the residents and the spots are first come first served. There would have to be signage to this effect, that's all. Either that or charge an initial one-time nominal fee when the permit is issued to cover the signage, say $20. Problem solved.

[@bendmacmanufacturing2744]

This is why I bought a home with no HOA everyone I spoke to had nothing good to say about HOA's

[@johnb4416]

What crook at City Hall allowed this condo community to be built with no street parking?

[@jon9103]

No doubt the city bears some responsibility for allowing it, but the builder deserves most of the blame.

[@bellagirlgirl8827]

HOAs are a nightmare-- no reasoning with them. Been there, done that.

[@AFTone144]

Their fines are the "product". HOA's are a for profit business. If they don't have enough products to sell (fines) they can't operate. It's a SCAM. But they disguise it as "we are protecting your property value". Complete BS.

[@sylvainmichaud2262]

When you think about it, free parking in the street should be the exception rather than the rule. Because parking in the street is nothing but storage of a privately own object onto the public property and it is THE only situation where you can do that for free. Now as for the extent of the fees, that's another debate.

[@oratiloelephoto2106]

Living in a gated community is expensive all around the world. I don't have much of a yard and my double garage is full. Thus, my mom parks her car at the visitor's parking and they still complain.

[@toddstanley3619]

With all of these HOA overreach programs it shows why people need to stop buying homes in HOA neighborhoods.

[@nonfatalfonso]

good luck getting anything worked on by a plumber or electrician who has to park like 5 blocks away

[@rammos9171]

This is why I could never live in an HOA.

[@CharleyTank]

It's pretty simple, don't buy where there is any *HOA* fire the *HOA* live a better life.

[@LL-bl8hd]

If it's a private street, don't they already have the authority to tow the people from the other apartment?

[@Jen39x]

There are HOAs that set ownership standards for housing developments and HOAs that own and/or operate common areas like streets, roofs, hallways etc. The bottom line is you need to understand the HOA before you buy and know that fees always go up not down. Make sure the HOA has people living in the housing on the board and that Thor are adequate investments. Make sure you can audit books and do so. Attend meetings. Like anything else you get out what you put in. The HOA discussed here owns the street if they are paying for repair

[@jbar_85]

That’s crazy! This is why I go to my HOA meetings so the wrong Karen’s don’t get ahold of the narrative and create this type of non-sense.