Hollow Knight - Speedrunner vs. 4 Hunters on Steel Soul AGAIN (again)

Today, we're playing Hollow Knight: Speedrunner vs. Hunters on Steel Soul, but with a new mod which means bosses will now spawn for Hunters! Can I kill The Hollow Knight before the Hunters kill me? Let's find out. For the full rules and credits for the game, look below!
Reuploaded because the video from before was 30fps. I reviewed the video and I think the game is actually pretty good, so I added notes and decided to put it here instead of on my secondary channel.
▶ CREDITS
Edited by @PyeFive
@mys3cretskill / mys3cretskill
@Extremelydgaming / extremelyd1
@DutchTristan / dutchtristan
@TK3TK3 / t_k_3
▶ SKINS CREDITS
Student by KAdala
Greenpath by Marcelinefi
Hive Knight by 路过哒雪
Laurel Knight by Raistly
Fyremoth by Rusty
Grub by 银黎
▶ RULES
• The Speedrunner wins by defeating The Hollow Knight. Hunters win if the Speedrunner dies.
• Hunter Starting Equipment: 4 Masks, Nail 0, Tram Pass, King's Brand, Awoken Dream Nail, Lumafly Lantern, All Dreamers.
• Hunter Scaling: Hunters gain Mothwing Cloak and Mantis Claw when the Speedrunner does. When the Speedrunner gains both, Hunters unlock an extra mask, lifelines, and two nail upgrades (13 damage).
• Lifelines: A Hunter may open their map to find the Speedrunner's area. Only one Hunter may open the map per lifeline and should not hold it open for more than fifteen seconds. A llfeline can be used every fifteen minutes.
• Sound Effects: The Speedrunner broadcasts a sound effect into the voicecall when: using the Dream Nail for an objective, purchasing a toll, completing a mask or vessel, purchasing any item, or using a tram.
• Power Limits: The Speedrunner cannot collect more than one additional mask upgrade, one soul vessel upgrade, two charm notches, and two nail upgrades. Dashmaster and Flukenest are automatically banned.
• Bans: Before the game begins, the Hunter team can apply five bans: one level 2 spell or Nail Art, which the team decides on together, and one charm ban per hunter. The Speedrunner will not be allowed to acquire banned upgrades or charms.
• The Speedrunner cannot hear the Hunter voice call.
• The Speedrunner has a 30 second headstart on the Hunters.
▶ MODS
TheHuntIsOn by Korz
• ALL players do not receive healing from sitting on benches or entering dream boss arenas.
• ALL players cannot use stags.
• ALL players do not spawn shades or receive penalties from dying.
• ALL players have small elevators removed and platforms replace them.
• ALL players can instantly travel through large elevator shafts.
• SPEEDRUNNERS have added platforms to navigate shade skip locations IF they have the loadout required to perform that shade skip.
• HUNTERS have added platforms to navigate shade skips locations no matter what their loadout is.
• HUNTERS have enemies removed, but bosses still enabled.
• HUNTERS will auto-spawn certain bosses such as Dream Warriors if in close proximity.
• HUNTERS cannot collect lifeblood seeds from the world.
• HUNTERS start with the game world unlocked (i.e. shortcuts open, most bosses killed, etc).
• HUNTERS respawn in King's Pass when they die.
• HUNTERS heal slower, and their focus cost is higher.
HKMP by ExtremelyD1
• The multiplayer mod. Also, shoutouts to DwarfWoot for hosting the server.
LoadNormalizer by Homothety
• All players have the same load times between rooms.
InvincibilityMonitor by Flib
• Gives the player invincibility during various states where they cannot act, as well as a tiny grace period after the state ends.
HKMP.ModDiff by Aktra
• Ensures all players have the same set of mods.
QoL by fifty-six
• Adds quality of life features, most importantly re-adding speedrun tech to latest patch, such as menu drops, lever skips, explosion pogo, etc.
AdditionalMaps by SFGrenade
VanillaMapMod by syyePhenomenol
▶ FOLLOW
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▶ MUSIC
Hollow Knight - Decisive Battle
Donkey Kong Country - Fear Factory
Kirby Super Star - Lose Life
Final Fantasy VII - Crazy Motorcycle Chase
Super Mario World - Underground Theme
Sonic 06 - Flame Core (The Cavern)
Donkey Kong Country 2 - Flight of the Zinger
Penny’s Big Breakaway - Tutto Finisce a Tarallucci e Vino
Sonic 06 - Kingdom Valley
Sonic 06 - Radical Train (The Chase)
Kirby Super Star - Cocoa Cave
Sparks of the Cobalt Sands
Penny’s Big Breakaway - Scientific Method
Super Mario 64 - Cave Dungeon
Sonic 06 - Crisis City
Undertale - Another Medium
Sonic Unleashed - vs. Titan & Big Mother
▶ CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:25 Vesselhunt
49:56 Pantheon of God Gamers
#hollowknight #speedrunnervshunter

[@fireb0rn]

In case anyone's confused, this was originally on my @fireb0rnVODs channel, but was accidentally uploaded in 30 FPS. I thought the games weren't too great on first view, but reviewed it and think the games are actually solid. So I added notes and decided to put it here in 60 FPS instead of on my secondary channel. Also, please check out the hunters on Twitch and/or KZbin! youtube.com/@mys3cretskill www.twitch.tv/mys3cretskill youtube.com/@Extremelydgaming www.patreon.com/Extremelyd1 youtube.com/@DutchTristan www.twitch.tv/dutchtristan youtube.com/@TK3TK3 www.twitch.tv/t_k_3

[@Taitou25]

Well, now I can favorite it a second time. Thanks mang

[@Blair5414]

thanks for the explanation! thought I was going senile

[@tempestrimuru8392]

Again hahahahaah😂😂

[@micah_jones]

Still going to fully rewatch it cause these videos are gold.

[@KoletheCotter]

Lol I figured something like that was up. I watched it halfway through and then couldn't find it 😂😂

[@SoraHjort]

Hmmm, it might be time to do the inverse. Where multiple players try to beat Hollow Knight while Fire hunts them down one by one.

[@kylaneldredge4893]

That would be really cool

[@Gking10]

Dead by Daylight in Hollow Knight

[@Charger-mations]

I want that

[@stormstrike4351]

Very interesting idea. It might be difficult to balance, though, so it could take some time to implement.

[@SoraHjort]

@@stormstrike4351 Well yeah, but that is why the rules for speed runner vs hunters has changed over time, things were too easy for one side vs the other so things got changed to what they are now.

[@Skilashu]

The hunters trying to get to false knight : Fire already at mound : I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you.

[@Average_enjoyer_of_hk]

I love how a crackhead animator’s anime Mario became permanent meme culture

[@Kronosdoesshit]

@@Average_enjoyer_of_hkBut first we need to talk about *PARALLEL UNIVERSES*

[@DragonWingShard]

5 years later: Hollow Knight - Blindfolded Speedrunner vs. 50 Hunters on Steel Soul with Glass Soul and All Bindings mods, All Achievements run (Team Cherry give us Silksong please)

[@Pdl9live]

not long ago they put the game on the Microsoft Store and it had an indicative rating so the hope of being close is here

[@Drawoon]

exactly what I was thinking lol

[@Rayneworld]

Hunters: He could have done a reverse QGA Fire: So I did a reverse QGA

[@Silas_MN]

it's so funny to me that *SPOILER* he gets howling wraiths and never uses it once, but also I don't think the hunters ever figured out that you got fragile heart

[@NZsaltz]

I KNOW, I was thinking about it the whole time! Maybe he's just not used to using it.

[@zenonempire3562]

No literally!!! During the Uumuu fight, I was screaming "Use Wraiths!!!" the entire time because still deals damage and, I think, is better than using Spirit, since it seems like trapping Uumuu under a platform and just screaming at it will deal more/constant damage.

[@DevidCipher]

Alternative title: "Fireborn wiggles through elevators and makes hunters cry".

[@cassius7854]

Shelby was absolutely on point w the callouts this game, i loved every time it cut to fire doing some bizarre sneaky move and she described exactly what he was doing

[@boom-jr8vi]

The great slash call AS the screen popped up was peak tbhz

[@Marion_MyAnh]

These "speedrunner vs hunters" videos will never NOT be entertaining, we can admire the skills while having a good laugh. Perfect. 👏

[@tri4cejawn365]

I do like that you still leave in the runs where you die early to show that no they’re not just letting you power up to make it a more entertaining video, but it’s always extremely entertaining!

[@ZombieManF]

Though I do miss the chaos of Stag Stations, I think this is the perfected ruleset for manhunts. I kinda wish Fire had survived that first game with the hunters not knowing he had picked up City Crest, since that would've made for a really interesting midgame. Alas, it was not meant to be.

[@ZombieManF]

Yes, I shamelessly copied my comment from the original video and reposted it here.

[@DragonNestH077y]

@@ZombieManF You hit me with déjà vu, I thought I'd see the comment before and I was right xd

[@Elrightio]

they shouldn't have let him out of crossroads lol

[@user-sk1rm7cc5h]

46:39 "Hey what's up, everyone, welcome to this new rando"

[@DeViL3R666]

YES

[@FraiseLK]

"I wonder if he's going to do reverse QGA." Subtitles not a second later: "I'm going to do reverse QGA."

[@SolstaceWinters]

It only took three runs, and a little "pity" on their part. And *_THAT_* was their undoing.

[@nileprimewastaken]

this is probably the most (seemingly) competent set of hunters so far, of course hindsight is 20/20 and we are seeing this from fire's perspective, so some seemingly bad decisions make sense in the moment

[@-MansBestFriend]

Not only is it again, it’s again again.

[@zacharyyoungblood7013]

Not only is it again again, it's again again again

[@GlichCentral]

Spoilers: Fireborn dying twice that early is a bit surprising, but it makes sense since early game you’re still rather vulnerable and have no real advantages over the hunters, and while rushing bosses can get you the element of surprise, if the surprise fails you just aren’t capable of winning the 4v1 that early, and this group of hunters was also quite sharp.

[@Yuka-pi6zf]

Mhm also he has less places to go so knowing what fire is going to do or be is not a big surprise early game is super hard until he gets claw or at the very least gets into greenpath his options are so limited

[@Yrwwen]

Fire: Get wraiths Also Fire : Never use wraiths

[@user-io1kc9bs7e]

Bro has to make another hunters vs speedrunner every 5-10 days to distract himself while waiting from silksong

[@KaleDarville]

this is a totally niche request, but i absolutely love these vids and often watch them while doing other things. i frequently miss the notes and have to rewind to make sure i didnt, so a subtle sound cue would be super cool. definitely not a necessary change, and great vid overall, as always ❤❤

[@AnEmu404]

I second this! I’m often looking at the vid now and then and i cant tell if i’ve missed notes because they’re interesting

[@JACandQuill]

Agreed!

[@EmeraldRadiation]

god i cant get enough of these videos. that 4 hunters + watcher knights fight was INSAAAAAAAANE

[@doctorleftwizard8931]

Fire, I love these videos - the notes make things so much more accessible to me as someone who doesn't necessarily know high-level Hollow Knight strats or have an idea of your gameplan. Thank you for adding them!

[@asdfgadsg281]

If this format is done again - rushing dreamnail and getting dreamshield to beat the baldur seems like a really fun way to confuse the hunters!

[@Turcepique]

Mantisless dashless Blue Lake skip? That's gonna be real fucking tough though Longnail Baldur kill is possible I think?

[@daenite2480]

What I like about this series in comparison to Dream's who started trend is that it always feels like there's stakes. While Dream's vids aren't scripted, a lot of the losses are cut out, so it feels that Dream wins way more times than not, therefore stakes don't really feel as intense without the implementing of movie-style cuts and music. In comparison to Fireborn's series, all wins and losses, no matter how big nor how small, are posted, meaning there's always a sense of urgency. The feeling of stakes never really goes away, making each one enjoyable to watch.

[@zapsattaxx]

"I bet he's going to do reverse QGA" "I'm going to do reverse QGA"

[@jakobwiren2241]

I wont complain, another reason to not sleep

[@Luck0Mania]

i cant wait to see this done in silksong in another 65 billiion years

[@Cosmic-Alkawn]

I'm glad there was a rematch

[@DutchTristan]

Was a fun time hunting you, fire!! Hope to do it again sometime!! :) Edit: You're a madman, it was insane to watch the crazy shenanigans you pulled off!

[@levifoster5639]

Still think a boss hit-list would be a neat idea. Can incorporate new tactics and change routing if you are required to kill Hive Knight or something

[@Sainoupenia]

YES

[@Turcepique]

I think it'd be horrible especially if the hunters knew. Camping is already super boring early game, camp False Knight camp Greenpath Entrance Camp Greenpath Chokepoints camp Claw... No reason to add one more camp.

[@kitastroophe]

istg if this series turns into a rematch, a finale rematch, a grand finale and a grand finale rematch

[@defnotanny]

Super entertaining! Thanks for uploading all of them!!

[@anoxxmous7809]

the subtitles u add fire makes this video so much enjoyable

[@parkervaughan3997]

Thanks for the awesome video fire! Your pvp stuff is my favorite kind to watch and this is perfect after a (very) long day. God bless

[@gumiho_celeste]

The hunters are getting wallcling storage by accident, impressive how the first 2 runs even got as far as they did

[@amateurishauthor2202]

I've gotta say, showing the times you lost gives a ton more entertainment and validation that these matches aren't staged, makes the times you do win feel earned and rewarding, not just for you, but for us who're sitting on the edge of our seat in these engagements that get down to the wire. Plenty of 'hunters vs x' only show the wins, so they end up feeling fake after awhile.

[@henrykessler9494]

I like the inclusion of the two short rounds at the beginning of this one :) great video! These are fun to watch.

[@justmichael5301]

I genuinely love watching this series, please keep making it

[@TheDavianSea]

Thank you for uploading another one! Nice!

[@emmettshaw967]

Keep up the amazing work man!

[@moffiez]

31:02 this whole chase is just ridiculous i love it HAHA

[@thegsp]

What i love about your Speedrunner vs Hunter is that you upload the games where you loose as well, and even ones like these where you lose at the beginning you usually change up your strategy and it's just interesting to see your problem solving throughout it all

[@liamoneill1333]

Love the uploads your cracked man

[@GINOxUV]

I ALWAYS look forward to vids from this series...I LOVE THESE!!!

[@alexanderterry187]

Thought this was familiar lol. Always great to see these, looking forward to the next one!

[@wretch3d342]

Lets go!!! This is my favorite series on youtube!!!

[@myg1488]

This was really well edited. After finishing the original again video, I assumed you would win because this was longer. To my surprise you died twice so I thought you weren't going to win based on time. Well done!

[@Bliss467]

That was sick. Congrats fire!

[@janawham3296]

I could watch these every day, they're so good.

[@halcyon_exb]

Bro I was literally rewatching the other two earlier thanks bro

[@McgodP]

Im loving all the content outpour!!

[@Zkydo]

Dude, this video was so great, Im really glad you put it here too, thank you Mr. fireb0rn, you are the best man

[@Gingersnaperz]

I could watch one of these every day

[@danielkiran8174]

The last fight was so clean! GJ Fire.

[@Muggz95]

Time to stay up!!! Love your content!!

[@kiveyhalls]

fun speed runner vs 4 hunters video

[@brightfox5040]

This was an amazing group of hunters for the new rules, but Extreme and Dutch are such a great duo. Their PvP and calls are phenomenal.

[@DDumdee5867]

45:44 "i think he will go reverse QGA" fire speach to text : "i am going for a reverse QGA"

[@user-io1kc9bs7e]

Another one gawd dayum, bro cannot wait 2 weeks to post Another video

[@undergravitydownforce714]

😮 me realising i had already saw the video and watching it again

[@loonatoon5657]

I recently picked up Hollow Knight, and these videos are awesome!

[@somethinghm]

Already know this is gonna be a banger

[@jonahweiss2124]

I would say id love to see a little more of your post game discussion and hear how people react to you telling them what things you did. Thwy never caught on to you getting fragile heart, so hearing their reactions would be great But also Great video, i dont think any of the steel soul runs have been this close till now!!

[@sandsturm1778]

The best episode of runner vs hunters until now ❤

[@dracano6142]

Honestly thought he wasn't gonna make it on this one but a great vid as always :D

[@jeshguin_the_final_one]

Epic video. I don't totally agree with the platforms to blue lake but I'll live. It didn't even matter in the end. Thanks for the fun.

[@natebluefury1992]

I find it hilarious that the hunters are considering Fire having done a shadeskip-in steel soul mode 😂

[@chesspiece4257]

shelby is strangely prophetic in this XD

[@user-og4vk6mc9i]

Oh hey! I was studying for business exam tmr, but hell, fire uploaded lol

[@stephane8756]

Damn the video quality has been increasing more and more lately, keep it up! edit: Even with the odd start XD

[@samueltrusik3251]

LOVE IT! MORE!

[@masteruni6885]

this entire video was fire leaning forward after the first 2 deaths and fighting his way through hallownest

[@kthe13th]

These are my favorite kind of videos

[@xbree_]

These never Get Old

[@GenkiColleen]

I always enjoy these! :D

[@AkifFaisal-76857]

No silksong is criminal. BTW new subscriber

[@MstrKipper]

These videos are so good!

[@void-highlighter]

well i was very confused but ill watch again

[@shiro_milord]

First time im a little early to these kinda things. Love watching you, it looks like a lot of fun, and i enjoy watching. Big thumbs up to everyone.

[@DeltaCommando7]

This is literally my fav hunters video ever, the hunters played so well damn..!!!

[@tos4724]

I think it's kinda funny how extreme sounds more Dutch then Tristan, the actual Dutchman, does (I'm Dutch myself please don't murder me for a joke)

[@poliax7066]

Great manhunt as always

[@NZsaltz]

I think he must have forgotten about Wraiths. He didn't even use it on Uumuu. By the way loved the games!

[@GrassyBoy]

22:41 Love the Kingdom Valley music :)

[@thebigfatsoman2002]

Just a random thought because of some other people, why not do like a 1 hunter vs 3 runners but with a point system, note before reading any more, yea this means game sessions will take forever since we need to go through 4 hunters, but I think it's a fun mode. 1. Every person will get a chance to be a hunter while the rest become runners 2. Runners have only 1 life while hunter has inf, of course hunters will have less HP than runners (I'd say like how it is here, 3 mask to start, then 5 when claw gets picked up) 3. Every runner the hunter kills is 1 point, but if the hunter kills them all they get 4 points instead. 4. Each runner that survives when one of them completes the game earns that many points for the whole team (so if 2/3 people survive when the game ends all of them get 2 points) 5. Final extra 1 or 2 points to the runner that completed the game the fastest and the hunter that killed everyone the fastest/most kills Person with most points win. Ofc u can also have a ban system so the hunter isn't screwed, but I think this is a decent basline

[@paulohenriquezfonseca2224]

hey fireb0rn, i found 3 bugs that you might not know using baldur shell when the boss screams makes you move with the shell spamming jump button can launch you up if you spam fast and when you kill broken vessel in pantheon, if you heal right after killing him you can heal 2 masks hope this helps

[@jacknutterjacknutter]

I have watched this video 3 times it’s that entertaining

[@kenhisuag]

I hear that PBB music in the background, and I gotta comment my appreciation for it.

[@sir27dagamer]

this series is really fun! my only suggestion is that maybe it should be harder to stop the speedrunner before they get to greenpath, but also easier to stop them after the get past claw because its a lot more fun to see the game go on past claw, but it doesn't really seem very balanced, you were never in any major danger of losing after claw

[@fireb0rn]

Thank you! But I wouldn't advise anyone to make sweeping judgments about the rules based off just one game. For example, the last uploaded game used the exact same rules, and I had insane equipment going into THK and died. If everyone judged based off that alone, the late game rules are suddenly extremely hunter favored, which is quite the difference from being unloseable for the speedrunner. In reality, these rules are closer to balanced in the mid to late game, but the speedrunner role is pretty demanding mechanically whereas the hunters are very demanding in terms of decision making. I know that the early game is hard, but I died because I made bad decisions both times, so I don't agree that the rules needing to change. It's not as simple as just tweaking values; any of the changes that could happen have an impact on the rest of the game. The rules in this video added Infected Crossroads on start for hunters, which was meant to balance the early game without impacting anything else. A problem was that I didn't really take advantage of it and instead chose to brawl in the first game and immediately died. I made adjustments to my strategy and made it out in the final game.

[@fireb0rn]

I will add that I've been working on the rules for years, so it sucks when people immediately leap to "they're broken" based off single moments in a single video. The fact that these rules work at all in a game that wasn't designed for multiplayer and with players of vastly different skill levels is a miracle. Feels like people expect perfection out of the balance in these videos, which I guess shouldn't be surprising given that they're inspired by content from a known cheater in the speedrunning community lmao.

[@sir27dagamer]

@@fireb0rn yeah thats a fair point. despite the fact that I've kept up with every video in this series you're the one who was actually playing so my judgement will by default be worse and when you boil it all down luck is a very big factor in this and good luck for either party can make the game seem very skewed towards that side. Good job on making something that works this well. Now make a version balanced for true ending 😈 (in all seriousness that would be really fun to see but idk how realistic that would be to make happen)

[@fireb0rn]

I appreciate the understanding! Sorry if I came off a little defensive. Been seeing several "these rules suck!" type comments, which wasn't really what you were saying. 😅 True Ending is coming soon. I'm definitely making it happen before Silksong!

[@sir27dagamer]

@@fireb0rn understandable. Also, 👀 true ending is gonna be insane to see. Good luck making it happen :D

[@trajanfalk9283]

I’d love to see a true ending speedrunner vs hunters (obviously not in steel soul yet). Seeing all the different strats that go behind it would be sick

[@Loonbix]

39:13 (small general Spoiler) Abyss flashbacks with all those masks... that fight was insanely well played, a joy to watch! :)

[@V_V-V_V]

Best speedrunner vs hunters so far. It'sm uch more entertaining when the game isn't one sided.

[@lucky_kid_guy744]

Fun Idea for next steel soul: All hunters have 1hp, but the number of hunters is equal to fire's max hp.

[@leonhartquiktl9858]

that near hitless pvp at 3:20 was crazy

[@billie-ve_in_yourself6464]

Ok, but watching Fire fight is so cool. He just parries and dodged so cleanly

[@Albaniamirsson48]

Another goated video by the goat of hollow knight himself 😊

[@user-kc9lx4lq9b]

Also love your content😊

[@derontanzil6939]

14:20 GENIUS

[@Escue_dread]

doing a speedrunner vs hunters with a proximity chat mod would be cool. It would limit the hunters' communication and let fire play mind games