Holy See banning the Latin Mass?: Last week in the Church with John Allen Jr.

[@sandragoss48]

The Pope just gave permission for five parishes in the State of Virginia, USA to celebrate the Latin Mass. Would he suppress the Latin Mass in some areas while giving permission in Virginia?

[@stevedoetsch]

Yes. It's a basic tactic to oppose on one side while supporting on the other.

[@leylinegoddess]

the choices are chosen out of those parishes who are not in schismatic mode. they still recognize the papacy of francis so not schismatic thus due for consideration for alternative form of mass.

[@JaimeAlvarez-r9u]

Diocese of Arlington cancelled many Latin masses during tradiciones costodus and also it’s a very populated place so it makes sense.

[@paulfaigl8329]

Permission? Hahaha. Is he in the charge? Of what? Let's go Brandon 🤠

[@paulfaigl8329]

​@@leylinegoddessForget the Pacapapa 😂

[@theiritiphanwar3271]

I am a Christian, Presbyterian , a home maker,single mom,see God's Blessings everyday.

[@sylvia54lobo76]

APOSTATE church banning... Wake up zombie catlicks worldover. BerGOGlio is taking for ride on SCARLET BEAST for a massacre. Sad. Sad. Wake up pied Piper catlicks ere it's too late.

[@Tewhill357]

"Relative unknown?" Francis had recieved significant support in the conclave that elected Benedict. He was not plucked from obscurity. To say that is simply mythmaking.

[@carolynkimberly4021]

Only Argentina, the Jesuits, and the Gay Mafia were familiar with that disgrace.

[@paulfaigl8329]

You are totally in wrong. Get some books on that staged election. Ever heard of St. Gallen? McCarrick is also involved.🤠

[@DefendourMother]

Yes, because a significant number of cardinals are strong supporters of Marxism and intent on destroying the Catholic faith. It was well known in the Vatican that Francis was a good candidate to lead this Movement. It's a shame that so many of the men who opposed Bugnini during the V2 conclave are now deceased. Sadly, there are but a handful of men who are still alive who knew about the Marxist Movement that had established itself at the highest level of the Church.

[@johncaron4888]

The Holy See banning the Latin Mass would be a really stupid move!

[@paulfaigl8329]

Yes. But they are genuinely stupid. Driven by Satan. 👹👹👹

[@susand3668]

You are right! And Pope Francis is not stupid. He advised the bishops to limit the Latin Masses to congregations that were not promoting schism. This makes a lot of sense. Many of those who promote schism are the same ones who are now rumor-mongering about the pope halting *all* Latin Masses. They ignore Pope Francis's very recent voicing of approval for ICKSP (although the rumor-mongerers had used this meeting to promote the idea that Pope Francis was preparing to end the Institute -- he was, in fact, congratulating the prior general on the 45th anniversary of his ordination.)

[@spoffspoffington]

You're doing good work for the church, if I may say so.🙋✝️

[@jimduffy7199]

Paul VI was wounded in the chest, not his neck, in the assassination attempt in Manila. The Pope said he felt "two compressions" in his chest. His life is believed to have been saved by the fact that his waistcoat under his vestments, which he wore to help with severe arthritis, was so heavy starched that the blade did not enter with full force. Pope Paul did not realise he had been stabbed and what the compressions were until one of his aides noticed blood seeping through his cassock. The wound came exceptionally close to a critical artery but may have been deflected by the starched waistcoat.

[@spoffspoffington]

@@jimduffy7199 slightly worrying for HH anyway? And no press hysteria at the time, if my childhood memory serves me right.

[@susand3668]

@@spoffspoffington as I recall, you are right, the media did not make a big thing of it. I do not recall any talk of it being a miracle that he was saved!

[@haroldgaubert]

Francis is the Pope of bad surprises!

[@TheGariego]

He didn't "voluntarily " walk away. He was forced out by his party.

[@tomgjokaj]

Yes, someone else resigned for Biden

[@danielnyambi-ts8ex]

A very good show. Thanks

[@simonpetergough9792]

Good stuff John !

[@bobm2331]

John since you don't have 100's of comments to a video, it would be nice if you replied to a few comments now and then. Most make good counter points.

[@susand3668]

Thank you for your reporting on the near-misses of assassins' attempts against Popes Paul VI and John Paul II. I had forgotten all but one of them. And thank you for the reminder of the surge of hope when Pope Francis was first elected. The Church was under attack then as now, and your last item -- the rumor-mongering against Pope Francis and the stoking of anger and fear among the faithful, all for the sake of money -- is simply more of the same eternal hatred of our Enemy. Thank you for calling for an end to these attacks.

[@TedSeeber]

How Trump can win the Catholic vote- fly to Fatima on August 13 and do the same.

[@carolynkimberly4021]

@@susand3668 We had just lost brilliant, Orthodox Pope Benedict. We were grief stricken. We gave "humble" Francis a chance until he gave sodomite priests a pass, "Who am I to judge"?

[@carolynkimberly4021]

@@TedSeeber Considering his abortion-happy opponent, he should have all Catholics behind him.

[@TedSeeber]

@@carolynkimberly4021 Sadly, nearly 50% of our fellow Catholics are still Democrats. They don't see the genocide we see.

[@LS-ei7xk]

@@carolynkimberly4021 Some of us aren't one issue voters.

[@KMF3]

Let's really hope that it's a lot of hot air in terms of the ban of the Latin Mass. It certainly is true that the Latin Mass has been severely severely restricted to the point that very few remain.

[@nancyraboin647]

I guess what gets me concern that there was 3 year prep for the Eucharistic Congress, but so little energy seem to have been forth on synod conversations. We do have a possibilities to be a bridge.

[@TedSeeber]

They do not want input into the synod. It is only a smoke screen to incorporate wokeism into the Churcg.

[@paulfaigl8329]

It fizzled out. Let's go Brandon 🤠

[@Michael-OConnor1960]

The TLM will always have a part in the Church

[@rockandrexable]

Well said!

[@JamesWatrous-m9m]

Good news show as usual, Mr. Allen. Incidentally, Julian Fellows, the creator of DOWTOWN ABBY is also an actor. He played Nero in the 1981 tv move PETER AND PAUL, which starred Anthony Hopkins as St. Paul and Robert Foxworth as St. Peter.

[@TheonewhomJesusloves895]

Dont use AI!!

[@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q]

As an Eastern Rite Catholic, I don't get the obsession with the Latin Mass. My people have always heard the Mass in the vernacular. As early as the 1940s, our bishops worked on developing a Divine Liturgy in English. The Catholic high school that I attended hasn't offered Latin in more than 50 years. In the 2005 conclave, the cardinal-archbishop of Buenos Aires was first runner-up in the voting.

[@angelamalek]

@@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q Had the 1969 Mass been implemented properly, there wouldn’t be the mass movement toward the TLM.

[@carolynkimberly4021]

@@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q If you were a Western rite Catholic you would easily understand. The Mass in Latin with beautiful rubrics and music united Catholics around the world. Now we have no unity from parish to parish.

[@carolynkimberly4021]

@@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q Bergoglio was known in his own country for being a Peronist and a vindictive man.

[@angelamalek]

@@dalesmith2987 Some in Rome really don’t like the older traditions of the Church and those who adhere to them, but the trads have gone so rebellious lately, Rome equates trads with schismatics.

[@susanwright4414]

Yes. Thanks for questioning Latin Mass division. This is how evil thrives; disrespect authority. Spread rumors. So sad.

[@markgraham2312]

Great show! Three comments: 1) Although your analogy of President Biden and Pope Benedict is valid, a better analogy is the year 1968 in America where: a) The sitting president Lyndon Johnson, from the Democrat Party, infamously announced that: "I will not seek nor will I accept my party's nomination for president of the United States." b) There were multiple assassination attempts on political figures, two resulting in the assassination of Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy within a month of each other. c) There was a third-party candidate that in 1968 received 13.5% of the vote and in 2024 there is a third-party candidate who is polling close to that number. He is RFK, Jr. the son of Robert F. Kennedy who was assassinated in 1968. d) The Democratic convention was in Chicago in 1968 as it is this year. e)The public was promised an open convention, but back-door deals nominated Johnson's Vice President Hebert Humphrey and this year the public was promised an open election, but a back-door deal will nominate President Biden's Vice President Kamala Harris. f) There were massive riots at the Chicago Democratic convention led by left-wing radicals of the Democrat Party and that is likely to happen again led by left-wing radicals of the Democrat party. 2) The name is pronounced KA-ma-la Harris, not Ka-MA-la Harris. 3) The Beatles concert at Shea Stadium was in 1965 (August 14th).

[@briankeane9674]

John there is a southern hemisphere I don’t wish to know of your heat probs Please more Vatican news The lord does not care about USA politics Brian

[@markgraham2312]

@@briankeane9674 I'm so glad to find out you speak for the lord.

[@erikriza7165]

And Lyndon Johnson's Vice President was Hubert Humphrey, not Hebert Humphrey. And why do you call President Johnson's announcement "infamous". That makes no sense.

[@markgraham2312]

@@erikriza7165 EXCUSE ME! I made a typing mistake. I was living then. I heard it! It was infamous and that is why I called it infamous. Like a day that will live in infamy. Johnson was a VERY unpopular president, like President Biden. Infamy )adj. 1. Having an exceedingly bad reputation; notorious. Is it clear now?

[@erikriza7165]

@@markgraham2312 I was living then too. I was watching TV when he said that. I know what the word infamous means. If you think Johnson was infamous, that is a different matter altogether. The announcement that he would not seek or accept the nomination of his Party, in itself, is neither infamous nor famous. So, no. Not clear at all.

[@John-nt6qj]

Julian Fellowes is a Catholic (an Old Boy of Ampleforth College in Yorkshire).

[@Poikye]

Unfortunately, American Catholics, by referring to the "Latin Mass" confuse the issue. In UK we usually refer to the Tridentine rite of the Mass. This is clear. The Latin Mass can mean thd Novus Ordo in Latin. Comments?

[@Jimboken1]

My guesstimate is that the vast majority of catholics who prefer the TLM love the NO also if performed reverently whatever the language used.

[@KMF3]

No to say the Tridentine Mass is to confuse it's origins. It did not start during Trent. This is the mass of the ages that began in the very first centuries of the church. It might be better to call it the mass of the ages. But most people call it the traditional Latin Mass.

[@KMF3]

I do think that there is some benefit to warning people of the possibility of this happening even though you may not know for sure. Look at the good that it is already produced in terms of many petitions going to Rome to beg the Holy see to not do this horrible evil thing.

[@pbohearn]

Yes, but Adele brought 60,000 people together in an open air Theater made especially for her in Munich for 10 nights this summer for a total of 600,000 participants to listen to her sing. If that is not engagement with the goddess, I don’t know what is!

[@kingposeidon9362]

22:32 Wasn't the 2019 poll by Pew?

[@tadstilwell6127]

John, are you feeling okay?

[@edwardbell9795]

So, Diane Montagna is just making it all up, is she?

[@spoffspoffington]

well you were right about gorgeous george and the baltic republics. Just hope HH isn't hoping for a war

[@Juan-gl7cs]

What we learn is that is good for people to retire; is time for Francis to retired.

[@leylinegoddess]

jpII did not retire and he was seriously debilitated by parkinson's disease.

[@EstherAcosta-t6u]

You okay John ? ❤E

[@galaxyn3214]

15:41 Don't deny it Mr. Allen, we all know that you were one of the conspirators!

[@angelamalek]

Mainline Protestants are solidly Republican in my experience.

[@carolynkimberly4021]

We wouldn't know. But our bishops vote Democrat regardless of the stupid or evil policies they represent. Their complicity in the invasion of our border is sinful.

[@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh]

Republicans are just 20 years behind the Democrats. They pretend. They do the fake opposition.

[@susand3668]

@@carolynkimberly4021 how do you KNOW how the bishops vote? You don't know. You are just rumor-mongering. Please see a priest ASAP to confess to lying against fellow Christians.

[@Jimboken1]

And 'mainline' catholics are pro-choice Dem in my experience. Which party roasted the FBI for investigating TLM Catholics?

[@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q]

The former pastor at the former parish just stopped short of endorsing the Republican candidates for president. I wanted to walk out, but my very Democratic father shot me a look of "don't you dare walk out."

[@marshalldarcy7423]

""all time high"" just is not so for the US had a Civil War and has had major divisions political many times.

[@jamescover7605]

There is a report at rorate that the document exists but The Pope has refused to sign it!

[@arminthaller7284]

Thanks for your comment on the suposed ban on the tridentine rite. Those complaints sow discord and steal attention from more important subjects. Who cares about the rite if they can receieve the Lord in communion? Or isn't it about the Lord but about some people's feelings?

[@colmoneill191]

You may not understand or care but many do.

[@carolynkimberly4021]

Francis says nothing. He just acts.

[@Michael-OConnor1960]

John your slurring your words did you have a few vino’s when filming again ?

[@carolynkimberly4021]

Right. Bergoglio is such a humble merciful man.

[@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q]

Francis is the best pope since John XXIII

[@carolynkimberly4021]

@@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q 😅😅

[@sophiachavez3377]

😂😂😂

[@sophiachavez3377]

@@ConanTheLibrarian-n5qThat’s not even funny.

[@paulfaigl8329]

Hahaha. Apage Satanas 😈

[@TedSeeber]

What, again?

[@sophiachavez3377]

Lose the grey beard. It looks horrible.

[@FrancesRobinson-yn2ks]

Yeah, not everyone is "thanking God".

[@carolynkimberly4021]

The Left is truly evil.

[@susand3668]

We should thank God even for our personal crosses and sufferings. We should be offering up everything that happens, because it is all in the Grace of God's mercy, and everything -- even the death of our dear Savior on the Cross -- *everything* is for the purpose of getting us all into Heaven to rejoice with God forever and ever!

[@LS-ei7xk]

@@susand3668 I wish I were that holy!

[@susand3668]

@@LS-ei7xk me too!! But that is what Jesus wants us to be, and He will do everything in His Almighty Power to make happen, if we really want this with all our hearts!

[@chrisekstrom4614]

#SSPX ✝️✝️✝️

[@carolynkimberly4021]

Thank God for President Trump

[@LS-ei7xk]

Thank God we have a two party system.

[@manifold1476]

2:12 "EuCORistic"????? Are you *trying* to say, EuCHARistic??? smh