Homebrew Wars : Original Xbox vs Nintendo Wii | MVG

[@JakonDeluxe]

The only console war both companies wanted to lose.

[@AymanTravelTransport]

Anything which opens the door to piracy is a big no-no for video games companies

[@Adamlol642]

@@AymanTravelTransport yeah I pirated many games then for fun I went on the website I got the games on and it was terminated

[@TNTMusic5757]

@@Adamlol642 ..uhhhh

[@NatetheNintendofan]

@@Adamlol642 did you get a virus

[@hecker3041]

XD

[@mackdee911h3]

You know a console is good when its homebrew versatile.

[@austinismadcrunk]

Xbox, Wii, PSP, 3DS, and Switch are the kings imo.

[@palody_en-ja]

PSVita has joined the conversation.

[@Delta225]

Wii U?

[@XXLuigiMario]

@@austinismadcrunk Don't forget the original DS.

[@MrDmoney156]

@@austinismadcrunk Agreed! To bad the PS2 and PS3 never got this treatment cuz of shitty attitudes of the devs and always keeping crap to themselves slowing down the community all the time.

[@piratebear3126]

The Wii being able to display emulators in both a proper 240p for CRTs and 480p on modern televisions is the killer edge for me. Plus Nintendon't can load Triforce arcade games for F-Zero AX and Mario Kart GP. Can't go wrong with either of them though. Both of them were many people's first exposure to softmodding, mine included.

[@piratebear3126]

@@freshcoat9311 My Life in Gaming went over it in their farewell to the Wii Shop video and a few of their other RGB Master Class videos. It's as easy as setting 480i mode in the Wii's settings for official VC releases, and most homebrew emulators have a setting that is 240p or "original" in their video settings.

[@andrewnorris5415]

I don't get why this is a "killer edge" - as 480p on the Xbox emulation is exactly the same as 240p - they just duplicate each row. Xbox does 480p on modern TVs no problem. If you really want to play on an old CRT - you're much better getting the original system - for the truly authentic experience - in my opinion. 240p is better than the original systems did but so is a modern display, esp. a plasma, much better colors. So it all depends on preferences. Xbox also does 720p for emulated games, which for the res on some systems scales up better than the Wii which is stuck at 480p.

[@darkerson]

The other killer edge reason to want to use a CRT instead of an LCD/Plasma/whatever is INPUT LAG.

[@logasoba]

@@andrewnorris5415 you cant do 480p on crts. only 480i which looks like shit for classic games.

[@SamplersAndThings]

LogaSoba Some pro CRTs you can go as high as 1080i, my panasonic dt-m3050w does!

[@izzyhopeunlisted]

1:34 "which system is better in 2020" Me: What is he talking ab- Wait its allready 2020

[@lionfire3359]

Yes but there are retro gamers who stick to the console they grew up with.

[@BamonBoy]

Just a note: the Homebrew browser has been replaced with the Open shop channel

[@skideric]

Well,i need to catch up ! Thanks!

[@MrDmoney156]

Ah really? Never knew this, thanks

[@elcamello1980]

Wait, so is that why my HBB doesn't load correctly? I gotta get this new app! Good lookin' out, man!

[@AuroraNemoia]

Open Shop Channel is literally just HBB, but with a new server hosted by the Riiconnect24 team.

[@mazor13]

never even heard of this but I have not modded a wii in years. Thanks!

[@VicHD]

I got a Wii in 2014 and a year or so later chose to softmod it. The homebrew channel, along with its emulators, really gave the console a whole new life. I still use it to this day.

[@MrMario2011]

Good start to the new year!

[@ModernVintageGamer]

Thank you my dude

[@PracarYT]

Yeah.... This year was sh+t

[@i_lost_my_bagel]

If only it lasted

[@TNTMusic5757]

@@i_lost_my_bagel no. It was sh+t

[@simbin.]

Love both systems. It's worth mentioning that Wii can output 240p over component to CRT, which was great for RetroArch and things, before we had new products like MiSTer. Also, WiiMotion controls for on-rail shooters, offer a great modern fix, for fans of old-school Light Gun games, on modern HDTVs.

[@TPRES_74]

People still sleep on the Wii and it's Homebrew. I was gonna get a snes mini or genesis mini then I thought forget that I can play both on my wii and many more.

[@MrDmoney156]

Let people be idiots, it's their fault for not doing their research

[@rooskiwolf1653]

@@MrDmoney156 I use my Wii to play Gamecube backups and my Emulators in 240p. Works like a charm.

[@BlueHedgehog12345678]

You are right. Modded OG Xbox, Wii or PS2 fat with Hdd are really good and cheap gaming devices with good emulators. I really don't understand why people are spending money on snes mini (emulator), ps1 mini (emulator)or emulation boxes from China. For relative small amount of money you can buy any of this 6th gen. consoles and have really good gaming devices and more! For me this is the best generation of consoles = best games(for me personally)+emulators (xbox and wii have more and better emulators than PS2). As a long fan of video games for me defenetly 6th generation is on 1st place, then 4th is on 2nd place and 5th gen is on 3rd place, after that it doesn't matter to me that much.

[@MegaKirbySuperstar]

@@BlueHedgehog12345678 I'm for modded consoles and also prefer getting a Wii but ppl are buying the minis as collector items, for how amazingly cute they are, and. For the easy plug and play and immediacy. They aren't stupid. That's just what they want

[@dustyk01]

Well same for me

[@LucyDejima]

Homebrew New Year everyone!

[@elmariachi5133]

Homebrew New 2021!

[@Ish0tJR]

Their both great machines but if I’m playing on a CRT today, I prefer a soft modded Wii to a soft modded XBox due to native Bluetooth, WiFi and USB 2.0 support. Also, emulators on the Wii tend to be more up to date with more modern features like 7zip support for WAY smaller rom sets. Great video as always ;)

[@JoshLineberry]

HAHAHAHA. Sorry but the xbox > wii and the emulators are sooo much better on the xbox.

[@Chris-Courage]

@@JoshLineberry I find that for 16 bit emulation the wii emulators seems to be more accurate in both graphics and audio compared to xbox emulators. xbox can do more yes but for what the wii can do, I think it's better. So I own both and only use my xbox emulators for stuff the wii cannot handle.

[@shanomacdaddy]

The Wii can also do 240p which is nice with emulation/virtual console on CRT's, has a wider variety of controllers to choose from, and virtual console injects are nice. Both the Xbox & Wii are great systems and cant go wrong with either.

[@icee1683]

The only nitpick I have with the og xbox is its size, still a great console though.

[@sergiorprado12]

I would choose a Wii U instead of any of those two. The Wii U besides being retrocompatible with the Wii and all its homebrews, also can play GameCube on the gamepad like a semi-portable GameCube. And the Retroarch available for the Wii U offers a great variety of emulators of old consoles and arcades too.

[@123456Domingo]

Yes Wii U is awesome, it is Wii on steroids, you get everything you could get on Wii with vWii mode, also you get all of Wii U library. Wii U games are awesome too, Zelda BOTW, Mario Kart 8, Mario 3D land and a lot of other awesome games are on Wii U.

[@erifernandez7]

That’s the reason I bought one only bad thing about it is you’re more unlikely to unbrick a wii u if it gets messed up

[@frozencatcake]

i agree

[@cheater00]

bro, this is my first video after the year flipped. what a great start! happy new year MVG, i hope you have a great one!

[@MadnessMan13]

Got XLink Kai up & running a few weeks ago for my Original Xbox & have been enjoying playing OG halo 2 online with tons of people. Your channel is the #1 reason I found out it was possible to do so. Love the channel & the content! Would love to see more & more people taking advantage of XLink Kai in 2020 for the Original Xbox.

[@LetsPlayKeldeo]

I litterally cant get enought of your videos x3

[@kenrickkahn]

I can't either.. He has so much insight and he talks with so much information on the subject it's hard to not *watch* .. *"Edit: Changed LOOK to WATCH"*

[@eldiablogaming4096]

It’s always amazing to see the history of homebrew on console.

[@BFKAnthony817]

The modern homebrew scene really started on Dreamcast, you should check it out. Still getting so many things brought over to it still to this day. The most recent homebrew port was Tomb Raider 1 which is so awesome. But yes, of course there were homebrew games made for older systems, but porting PC games to a console was really not a thing as big as it is now until the Dreamcast came out and was super easy to develop for. Obviously the OG Xbox and Wii carried on that torch, and don't forget the awesome PSP, HUGE homebrew community on that little powerhouse too! That is also what I like about the OG Xbox, it was literally X86 architecture so it allowed so many PC open sourced game ports and emulators it is crazy.

[@jamesbuckwas6575]

I like the Wii more. It can play almost every Nintendo home console game up to that point, and Game Boy/Game Boy Advance games. But I also like the Xbox.

[@MegaKirbySuperstar]

I never had an X Box. I am impressed by what it can do. Makes me curious. I was always turned off by how bulky the console in general is. From the box itself to its fat controllers. My hands are little! Ill stick to my Wii/Wii U/ and PS Vita but I'm impressed by the xbox

[@TexasHollowEarth]

@@MegaKirbySuperstar - You can use PS2, Dualshock 2 compatible, controller adapters & the X-Box has an internal, upgradeable HDD. It's pretty nice & it still has an active homebrew community. MAME-oXtras 2020 was just recently released for the original X-Box!

[@sigurdtheblue]

@@MegaKirbySuperstar Yeah, classic XBox controllers were kind of hillarious. I don't have big hands and I played the XBox mostly when I was not even in my teens. But the fact that Nintendo 64 had an even more unwieldy controller prepared me for it a little. The controllers were still heavier if I recall correctly. I think the original XBox is a truly unique experience, as is the Gamecube and Wii.

[@BrokenOpus]

Looked at the thumbnail and thought it was a “You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about” meme.

[@Jakeeenator]

Man I remember when I first modded my Wii. This was back in 09 and I was 15. Those were some great times. Sometimes I wish I could go back.

[@gabrieltorres6633]

I think I was 14-15 as well and it was everything. I had so many roms, homebrew and mods.

[@Cold_Media]

So hyped for XPostal! Can’t wait, that’s gonna be so good, keep up the good work my man!

[@FR4M3Sharma]

I always wanted to have a Gaming Console and today my wish was granted. (Sort of) Today i just got a Xbox Original the same Translucent version as MVG have here. I turned it On, and it booted and works the DvD drive is dead though since the person who had it said "it's been laying in my pile of tech trash for 4 years or so" so i was skeptical whether it'll work or not but to my surprise it worked AND is also modded! Which is also a good thing perhaps. I'm so happy today that i finally got a Console i always wanted a PS2 since they more common in my country but i'm also glad i got this! The only downsight is that he didn't had a Controller or Video component cables for it. I know i can buy them easily (the cable tho) but i won't get the original controller which would've been great. Everything's is fine with this but it's missing the DvD tray's front panel. Here are some pics : imgur.com/a/dcPcD4r If anyone would me to recommend some mods or whether where i can update them then please don't hesitate to ping me :) Happy New Year Ya'll!

[@TexasHollowEarth]

If you have a Samsung DVD drive, try to fix it. They have the best disc compatibility, playing DVD+R DLs & CD-Rs, unlike Thompson & Phillips drives. If you have a V1.6 board (I believe the crystal X-Boxes were), you cannot perform the 128MB RAM upgrade; You need the empty pads on your board. If you step up to a SATA HDD, avoid Kingwin brand adapters as they introduce a long delay on boot. I prefer a hardmod to a softmod as it removes the HDD lock to the motherboard, allowing easy HDD upgrades. The Aladdin chip is very cheap & relatively easy to install; X-Box v1.6s are more of a pain than previous board revisions. Use xbox partitioner 1.3 to fine tune your F & G partitions on large HDDs; I'm using 2, 2TB WD blue label notebook HDDs & a 500GB Samsung Evo 850 solid state in a 3rd X-Box; It boots up very fast.

[@mazor13]

@@TexasHollowEarth Damn man. Good info. Especially with the HD and disc drive tips.

[@TexasHollowEarth]

@@mazor13 - Happy to help. Let me know if you got any other questions. I've been working on OG X-Boxes for nearly 20 years!

[@Meansoduck]

That’s awesome man, enjoy your xbox. Happy New Year :0

[@nevergiveup3293]

Nicee

[@satelliteharassment]

I just remembered this channel and found that not 10 minutes ago you had uploaded. Very cool.

[@TheSlackassCrew]

You won't be disappointed

[@pc1x1]

Thanks for actually picking a winner. This is why I like this channel. 90% KZbinrs basically fence sit, and advertise. Ill prob just mod both as I have use cases for both. Thanks!

[@tomuppercut7101]

I'll say this in the Wii's favor it's super easy to find one in the wild. I picked one up a few weeks ago at a Goodwill for $20 and that was two controllers with Wii Motion Plus and a Wii Fit Balance Board.

[@johna6602]

That's why i want my Xbox modded, i want to play obscure arcade titles and shmups etc more than i want to revisit old Nintendo games that a lot of them i've already played. This is a great channel for the stuff you put out MVG, there is no reason these consoles should just be scrapped once they become obsolete and these videos are so important for learning just "how to?" etc.

[@dodgykebaab]

I hit that like almost before the video starts playing with its MVG!

[@cloudit305]

Always felt like picking one of these up to play old games. Liking videos like this one really helps out whenever I have the time to dedicate to such a project. Thank you. It's very appreciated.

[@BlockABoots]

The Wii can also do 240p, along with a Scart lead and RetroArch this has the xbox beat if connecting to a CRT display!!!

[@MFTony727]

I've got them both modded. I've actually modded several of both systems, including the wii u. I honestly prefer the wii for emulation, mostly due to the SD card slot making it easier the add more roms and also the ability to use USB controllers and wireless controllers. But I love both systems and just games in general

[@ButWhyMe...]

That's sweet! If it's fine, what controllers do you use bc all I can find so far is ps3/4 wired controllers replacing gamecube controllers in nintendont, but I'm looking for one that can replace the wii remote.

[@odin_th_red_heeler]

I just got an OG Xbox from the goodwill in a travel pack, 4 controllers with the kids name taped onto them for 15 bucks, I plugged it in and found Halo in the drive. I got a Hdmi adapter and am going to mod this weekend. Thanks for your hard work and solid content

[@bitset3741]

Check online on how to take care of the clock capacitor. It is pretty easy honestly, but if it leaks and damages the board it is more difficult.

[@redwidow1358]

In addition, for the Nintendo Wii, if you scrub your ISO's with DMToolbox (select Optimized, Auto, and leave the box unchecked), then go to Nintendont's settings and turn on Unlock Read Speed, your games can load things much faster and smoother. My playthrough of Mega Man X Command Mission has gone from something like 140 hours for the entire game plus secret bosses, to something like 25 to get to the seventh of ten chapters and one secret boss taken down. The biggest change is the random battles loading in much faster, you don't have to sit and stare at the same trippy effect for like ten seconds anymore, which is greatly appreciated since grinding in this game can take a WHILE. And loading screens with the text "accessing" take about half the time. I have noticed a bit more speed in the battles themselves as well. Overall I'm having a much better experience with a game I already loved, and if nothing else, you can do this to save space on your USB/SD storage and cram more games on.

[@Hazzardous13]

Man, I think you've missed one of the best points! Game mods! Now I can't speak for Xbox, but back in the day on Wii I was playing a ton of these! You have project M, an amazing smash mod that still has a tournament scene and online play to this day, and is worth considering for the title of best smash game ever made. You also have Mario kart CTGP, adding more than 200 new tracks to Mario Kart, including new mechanics like faster boosts, I got triple the enjoyment out of this than any Mario kart released before or since! And you've got newer Mario Bros, custom worlds for new super mario Bros that add all new worlds, powerups, and just a phenomenal sequel overall, plus another one in development! Patching your game disks to play these transformational overhauls of amazing games is the REASON to play a modded Wii, imo, and I'd love some details on the Xbox side of this, too!

[@roberte2945]

Don't forget the Wii U can do all of this too. You can mod the vWii the same exact way and enjoy all of your homebrew on a console with HDMI output.

[@nattila7713]

wii : lightgun emulation for nes, snes, mastersystem, megadrive

[@clone0azul9]

Actually the Xbox can emulate light gun in those systems if you have a real light gun and real light gun it's way better than the Wiimote

[@stedmangg]

@@clone0azul9 then it won't work on a modern tv

[@clone0azul9]

@@stedmangg yeah but it's more accurate and faster than the Wiimote, I've seen that Xbox OG light Guns work even in Arcade emulators like coinops and Virtua Cop 3 if you have the Ram Mod

[@youtubeadmin1588]

Német Attila and arcade games right? That’s huge...

[@youtubeadmin1588]

stedmangg you wouldn’t want to display these systems on anything other than a CRT anyways.

[@jarrodedwards5518]

Great start to 2020, Let the wars begin!!! Happy New Year MVG!

[@ShindlerReal]

Wii runs a whole bunch of N64 games perfectly via Virtual Console in higher resolution and better framerate than the actual N64. It also supports Classic Controller and NES and SNES controllers made for Mini consoles. Both Xbox controllers are rather poor for 8 and 16 bit games. I own both consoles, but Wii has more value for me.

[@RubyRoks]

PSP vs Vita would be a good episode

[@worldwritere-cat6603]

1:40 That's some PC-98 Touhou music, innit? There's no way I wouldn't recognize it, although I don't remember the name or what stage it's from, but I believe that's from Lotus Land Story specifically. EDIT: Wait, I'm dumb. It's the fricking main theme! XD

[@SakuyaInuIzayoi1]

That moment when you are focusing more on the background music and getting sightly annoyed by all the talking preventing you from recognizing it. Glad I was not mistaken about the theme

[@WalterMan]

I like both systems, but there is pros and cons for each. OG Xbox: The OG Xbox is a great system to mod, and I love making my own dashboards for the OG Xbox, and it is hard to mess up the OG Xbox, but if you do, you can just burn Rocky5’s softmod disc and restore your OG Xbox to Factory Settings. Like MVG said, there is great homebrew and emulators for the OG Xbox. But the OG Xbox is older and could cost more if you get it from eBay. Not to mention that dumb old clock capacitor on the Xbox. You have to get rid of that thing before your Xbox rots away. Unless you have a 1.6 Xbox. The Nintendo Wii: The Nintendo Wii is also a good console to softmod. All you have to do is buy a SD card for the wii to mod it. (for the Xbox you need 1 out of 4 games, a usb drive, and a special cable) Another thing is that the Wii is easer brick making it useless. The Wii is newer than the Xbox, meaning it should last for a long time. It is smaller, quieter and not very heavy. (THE OG XBOX WEIGHS 8 POUNDS) You get wireless controllers and you can play GameCube Games. The wii is also cheaper to find most of the time. I will say that a have not modded a wii (yet) but I have looked into it greatly. But I do think the OG Xbox is the better one, but maybe not for beginners. But both are very good and you can’t go wrong choosing one.

[@Cpnpunisher]

This was spot on personally I had an Xbox & been thinking of getting another one just to have for some arcade classic.

[@thequake2009]

Happy New Year MVG! 2020 and beyond

[@LeLouis]

I'd prefer the Wii, not just for homebrew but I love Super Mario Galaxy xD

[@MegaKirbySuperstar]

I ADORE Mario Galaxy 2. Both games, honestly are masterpieces.

[@Matando]

I had followed the Wii homebrew community since before the twilight hack loaded off the front sd card so this was a nice trip down memory lane. I would like to mention that the Wii does have a HUGE advantage with getting setup for homebrew considering you don't need any games to get it up and running. Getting your hands on an exploitable Xbox game is tricky and people tend to jack up the prices as nowadays they are harder to find.

[@JoshLineberry]

Not true at all. I buy splinter cell for like 2 or 3 bucks every day at my local game store. They are a dime a dozen.

[@Matando]

@@JoshLineberry every time I looked a few years back I could never find them. I guess it depends on the area. I haven't looked at online prices in a few years either so prices may have changes.

[@hershellumiere]

My answer: get them both, along with a PS3.

[@DoserNoftytftrd]

Yup all dirt cheap

[@TexasHollowEarth]

... & a exploitable Switch, Wii-U, & Vita. I got alot a mods to do on other systems too, but these 3 are very active in development & I'm enjoying mine alot.

[@jakegarrett8109]

I feel like PC just needs good local multi-player support then we’d only need 1 system (unfortunately they gimp the console game ports and remove split screen), because otherwise it’s a great system that is ever evolving and has the horsepower for anything. Plus you can use basically any controller (I can use my Steam controller, my PS3 or PS4 controller, or Xbox if you prefer, or mouse and keyboard or I’ve even done mouse in one hand and controller in the other, anything you want). Plus it’s very easy to multi-boot for many generations of games (have XP/7/10/Linux or whatever else you want), and you can run virtual machines for all your friends for really old games. Like my desktop for example can turn into the ultimate LAN party box, since it has a couple Ethernet ports and WiFi (so you don’t need a router, just direct plug in other computers), not to mention I could split it into fourths and run 4c/8t Ryzen at 4+ GHz with each having its own GPU and let everyone play whatever they want with GPU passthrough (they seriously need to make this easier), or I can run it all as a single machine that will dominate games like Crysis 3 running at 4k Ultra at 100 fps thanks to quad crossfire (I’m using a Threadripper if anyone is confused). It’s an ever expanding potential platform, and the cost to entry is low for a 1080p 120 fps machine (like $250 in used parts), but sadly it’s completely lacking against consoles in the ease of set up and just “plug and play” for parties and such, which is a shame because it has such potential (when a PS3 is running 4 splitscreens and yet PC can’t as a standard you know that’s whack!). But games are extremely cheap on PS3 now (like $3 to $5 at GameStop), so yeah, you can get a decent collection for like $100. I still enjoy PS 1/2/3 occasionally with friends (still need to find crash bandicoot for next time I see my friend with a PS1, what an awesome game!)

[@fryncyaryorvjink2140]

Whoa, I have all 3! If 12 year old me could see me now... he'd say go exercise

[@Clay3613]

The PS3 smokes both of these, it's the reason RetroArch even exist!

[@robarmstrong5404]

I'm more shocked at how much older the xbox is yet it's more powerful. It shouldn't even be close with that gap in time.

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

Mame also work quite well under Retroarch on the Wii, but my favourite is the WiiSX to emulate PS1 and thus have discovered many PS1 games i missed out on, and Nintendont to enjoy Rare Gamecube games in 480p.

[@viniciusbarros5881]

Use WiiSXR that can play some games better than WiiSX

[@AmigosRetroGaming]

I'm stunned you didn't mention what I consider the HUGE difference in the two consoles, and that's CoinOps on the Xbox. Having an all encompassing frontend that makes navigation through the various emulators easy and seamless is a huge deal. I know that a lot of Xbox homebrew creaters aren't too keen on the author of Coinops, but when the rubber meets the road, for a LOT of people CoinOps is a must.

[@msamiullah001]

2:08 Wii can output 240p also

[@WaynesWorld69]

Since discovering your channel I now own a nodded Wii, Wii U, Original XBOX, PS2, PS3, PSP and Xbox 360! All in the last 3 months! Homebrew and emulation is so cool!

[@Ashachi]

I still have my Wii from launch day, never connected it to the internet, just pure offline fun.

[@kenrickkahn]

Boy you don't know what you are missing.. free that Wii!

[@nathanurie4686]

@@kenrickkahn dude. We connected ours to the internet...... we never did much with those features. Only got like what, 2 virtual console games?

[@Dash120z]

@@nathanurie4686 Mario Kart, Smash Bros Online, Call Of Duty.. you're missing tons of fun.

[@nathanurie4686]

@@Dash120z by the time I did get a wii and went online the services for those were already disconnected

[@Joostinonline]

Do you know what system menu you have? I used to be a homebrew developer for the Wii (I helped with Nintendont), and I'd be very interested to get some information about a device that hasn't connected to the Internet.

[@EXITMUSIC2011]

Glad to see you're still working on OG Xbox!

[@msamiullah001]

i think nintendo wii much better homebrew system because: 1- It can output the older games in their native 240p . Retroarch on wii has great cps1 and cps2 emulation 2- There are alot of nintendo emulation games available also on VC 3- Much better controller options 4- Takes much less space :)

[@RandyWaage]

Great points!

[@richardaddison7368]

The Xbox is better I had both of them you can have wireless controllers on Xbox and itg has so many games you could install and other kinds of programs and more controllers you could install a 2tb hard drive my friend has a 3tb Xbox with 700 XBOX GAMES and thousands of retro games

[@JoshLineberry]

actually, these days, you can use xbox one controllers, 360, 8bitdo controllers etc. on the original xbox. They also do cps1 and cps2, etc. Emulation and the emulators on the xbox are superior to the wii in almost every way. It doesnt support 240p but they work all around better and have much better user interfaces/preview videos and such.

[@Dash120z]

@@JoshLineberry you can use PS2/3/4 and a wide variety of controllers to play GameCube via Nintendont you can't go wrong either cuz they're both homebrew beasts.

[@JoshLineberry]

@@Dash120z yeah, they are both great and everyone should have both. I have both of them modded to the max. I've been working on my 3tb Xbox setup for about 4 years now. It's amazing and so customizable.

[@rooskiwolf1653]

To my knowledge the Wii does 240p and the XBOX can only do as low as 480p. Wii wins hands down for Emulators up to 16-Bit. But I actually replaced my Wii as the main emulator on my CRTs with a Raspberry Pi with the RetroTink Ultimate Hat using Component Cables. Excellent emulation at 240p. And MAME looks great. I'll be switching to a MISTer as soon as a Mortal Kombat II core arrives.

[@jfroco]

Great video! For me 240p is the Wii killer application. Playing emulators and virtual console games on a CRT@240p almost plug and play is priceless.

[@twilight-sparkle]

Actually, USB Loader GX is technically a replacement dashboard (it can do everything the Wii Menu can do), and you can theme your normal Wii Menu as well.

[@Aze478]

The Disk Drive On the Nintendo wii Is amazing but sham on them for removing the gamecube ports.

[@jacobheinrich6557]

Amari Lee what do you mean by removing the GameCube ports?

[@spiritpyros]

@@jacobheinrich6557 in later Wii models they removed the GameCube ports chances are you got a much earlier model or even a launch model

[@jacobheinrich6557]

spiritpyros In the Wii Mini? lol. But what Wii’s have the GameCube ports removed, I own two Wii’s from 2008 and 1 from when the wii was discontinued... they all look the same. The only differences are internal

[@Aze478]

The Family edition

[@Aze478]

I Still own A White wii and I Currently have a molded wii with out the gamecube ports.

[@Sinn0100]

Now, I don't know what your answer is but I'm going to take a stab at it before finishing the video. My guess is the original Xbox for a few reasons. 1. You can get one with an S-controller and be ready for any game out of the box. 2. It comes with a hard drive while small is perfect for retro games. You could also rip that small hard drive out and put a much bigger one in. Yes, you would have to crack it open but hey, your modding it so go nuts! 3. The original Xbox is internet ready right out of the box no need to deal with anything else...just plug and play. 4. The dashboard on the original Xbox is just begging to be changed and most people do this. I think it has a cool factor that the Wii just doesn't. 5. The Xbox has far less shovelware on it and you also have a decent library of games intended for the machine. Let's see if I'm right...for me I was.

[@Sheepy007]

Kodi Commercial? I thought Kodi was the open source continuation of XBMC while PLEX is the commercial media Server-player fork.

[@Sterophonick]

Great way to start 2020. A new MVG video. Keep up the great content!

[@Lee.Moriya]

PC-98 Touhou music, so good 😩

[@sakitoshi]

Lotus Land Story title theme to be precise.

[@hjy2187418]

didn't expect to here that in dis channel

[@sigurdtheblue]

@@sakitoshi Lotus Land Story has the best of the soundtracks, but I didn't recognize the title theme because I usually spent no time on it.

[@puyofan99]

I hate humanity now.

[@mchagnon7]

Homebrew for the original Xbox was to make one of the best systems even better. Wii homebrew was an attempt to get a half decent console out of one of the worst.

[@dphmachine6276]

I'm only recently starting to appreciate the Wii

[@kenrickkahn]

One of the best consoles I ever owned.. After You Soft mod that thing it becomes the system Nintendo couldn't make and it's beautiful..

[@RandyWaage]

I absolutely LOVE my Wii! It's just such a great go to system for easy soft modding and emulation.

[@youtubeadmin1588]

Lsdmachine666 the Wii still sucks but emulation wise this is cool.

[@JonathanX95xboxlive]

Love your profile pic. Great band.

[@youtubeadmin1588]

Random Person umm because as a mainline video games platform it’s games library is utterly pathetic? It was popular with children, adults who didnt traditionally like video games, girls and women trying to lose weight who didn’t traditionally like games, and old people. Basically every single demographic except for traditional video gamers who completely ignored it in favor of Xbox and PlayStation. So yes the machine sucks by most gamers standards. Sorry that hurts your fanballs but I did not have a single male friend back in the day in my early to mid 20s who had one lol. I dated chicks who had it with Wii Fit and Just Dance and all that jazz. But it has GameCube support, Wii has a handful of decent video games, and it seems the emulation is good so there is that.

[@TheTamaranch]

Next verses should be between the WiiU and Xbox 360... sounds like a decent match to me

[@wibli]

In my hometown is easier to find cheap Wii consoles, working, complete with accesories and already soft-moded (I have 3 of them)

[@megaklok]

If 2020 promises quality videos like this MVG has an incredible year ahead

[@theburntcrumpet8371]

The Xbox wins for me. It just feels like a beast of a system

[@chairforceoneYT]

Soft modding my wii has changed my gaming life, widescreen support and progressive scan for GameCube games using Nintendont makes me feel like I’m play remastered versions of my old favourites.

[@dotmhd]

The Nintendo 64 emulation on Xbox is really performant but you can also use some tools that higher the compatibility list of the Wii like custom Virtual Console injectors 😊

[@Nimta]

If you have a good PC and you want to get into homebrew and emulation, use it. There's no sense in buying a second-hand generations old console for a sizable amount when you already have a machine that can do all of that and much more.

[@DukeDudeston]

I have a softmodded Wii (was thinking about doing same to my Wii U one day). Its a great console to mod, and great for some retro games. I mainly done it for the GameCube support though. I have the vWii modded on Wii U so get to enjoy GC games via HDMI (I do have component for Wii too) nothing beats a genuine GC controller through (I know you can get a GC USB adapter for Wii U but dont want to spend any more money)

[@7shocker]

USB helper for Wii u is amazing. Playing GC games on the gamepad is awesome. Gotta try it out. With USB helper you can get nintendont to install as a tile on the home screen. You have to do the haxchii mod which is a little involved but doable. Avoid Jack Sorrel for Wii u modding 👍

[@KevlarGorilla]

On a modded Wii, you can also install the Wii Shop Channel games, including the N64 Virtual Console games, and those all run very well. Most run at a higher than typical frame-rate and resolution than the cart on an N64.

[@FdupTV]

I'd get a Wii U and have all the benefits of it AND the Wii!

[@redwidow1358]

Wii U has no GameCube controller or memory card ports, and even with the official adapter, still no real memory card support, only emulated.

[@RandyWaage]

I own a modded Wii U too and it's a great system. Been meaning to mod the Wii side of it. As of right now I do find myself using my modded Wii more often though.

[@alexatkin]

@@redwidow1358 The memory cards will die eventually, so I consider no real memory card support as a benefit.

[@redwidow1358]

@@alexatkin I like being able to plug in my real existing card and continue playing my save files right where I left off

[@waqarchughtai440]

Happy New Year!

[@rika5240]

*notices background music* "Wait is this Touhou? xddd"

[@DannyTan6675]

I think its PC98 Touhou music, which game, though, I'm not sure.

[@rika5240]

@@DannyTan6675 Yeah it is, Touhou 4: Lotus Land Story It's the menu theme ;D

[@juesebelmont7324]

Don't forget you can mod the virtual wii side of a wii u which also has its own cool collection of homebrew and hacks.

[@duouk2000]

You get 240p support with the Wii which is nice when you're playing on a CRT. If I could live without physical media I'd probably get a small CRT and Wii. OTOH a modded Xbox does give you access to English Rent-A-Hero which I still want to play even now.

[@zophycakes]

The Wii's ability to output 240p is a major, major point in its favor here, while the Xbox only can do 480i. I'm sad to see this wasn't mentioned at all, because it is very important and arguably essential for emulating old hardware, especially if you are interested in using a CRT.

[@geovani60624]

where i live one wii cost literally almost nothing while one og xbox is almost impossible to find and it's kinda expensive

[@dannyblancett1445]

I could never pick a favorite between the two which is why I have two modded consoles of each!

[@LoganE01]

If I had to get one...has both. Me too though im actually softmodding a xbox later today tomorrow. got lucky and got the original xbox for 30$ shipped on ebay.

[@TheRiverintheRoad]

I'm very thankful I have a Wii U so I can truly have it all

[@LoganE01]

@@TheRiverintheRoad So do i but i cant play xbox original games on the Wii U, and neither can you....

[@ProtoPropski]

Also, if you get Priiloader on your Wii, you can Auto-Boot into pretty much anything, so USB Loader can seriously be your Dashboard Replacement, or for that matter the Homebrew Menu itself. Not to mention Priiloader is an absolute must have anyway, especially if you want to safely hack your Wii, (obviously alongside a BootMii NAND Dump) as Priiloader loads before anything else... it's essentially a boot loader, and actually helped me as a dumb kid recover from a couple of bricks when my Wii Menu got corrupted, and the WAD needed reinstalled... I can't recommend it enough, it can save your Wii, just kills me how unmemorable it is to people anymore, when it, with BootMii is pretty much the best combo ever. Oh, and you can move the Disc Channel with Priiloader, which is actually originally why my dumb kid brain wanted it at first, little did I know that silly choice would save my Wii several times.

[@at433]

1:55 MVG Said 423 instead of 243

[@bobafruti]

Back in the day my daughter watched so many cartoons on the wii. I’m only disappointed that the massive input lag on our current TV makes it basically unplayable.

[@thedutchgulcher4750]

Try putting your TV in Game mode. It will reduce latency.

[@GoobyGooby]

is the xbox really as easy to mod as a WIi? for the Wii all I needed was a SD card, but for the xbox I had to get a memory card, an old Windows XP computer, action replay for the PC to transfer the save game file... doesnt sound as easy. and yeah I know you can use a flash drive but the compatibility sucks. If I have to order a specific 512mb flash drive why not just use the memory card I already had xD

[@RandyWaage]

The Wii does seem a lot easier to mode/use.

[@JoshLineberry]

All you need is a windows 10 pc, a small flash drive, a copy of splinter cell, and a usb to xbox cord. There's no need for a windows xp computer or an action replay.

[@GoobyGooby]

@@JoshLineberry but I dont have a small flash drive thats the point. Gotta order one with a USB cable, make sure its compatible, have the correct version of splinter cell. what I was saying Is I already had a xbox memory card so I modded that to have a USB connection, connected it to a Windows XP computer to use Action replay for xbox to get the exploit save onto it and transfer it to the xbox. saves me money and headache with compatibility. and I was pointing out either of those two methods to hack a xbox are far more complicated than just putting files on a SD card and popping it into a Wii.

[@DragRedSim]

One other thing to note - everything listed here for the Wii (excepting certain things, eg. Ripping GC games using CleanRip) will work on the Wii U as well, since the architecture is the same and the hardware simply downclocks itself to match the older system. This includes using Nintendont to run GC games on the Wii U, despite its lack of native support.

[@awilfox]

> The Xbox has power No, the Wii has Power. The Xbox has a Celeron 😹

[@SebastianGMSFB]

Hardware-wise, the OG-Xbox and Nintendo Wii are very similar to each other, despite being a generation apart.

[@Rich3rd]

“Failure of the GameCube” had no idea it was considered a failure

[@keymaster2024]

dUDE the gamecube sucked it had no games worth shit

[@lightningalex2235]

FATTY DOODOO The only funny part about your joke is how bad it is.

[@octavioperez4334]

Well... compared to the nes and snes the GameCube didn’t sell too well. Although I wouldn’t deem it as a “failure” The Wii U was a failure.

[@S.Grenier]

Well, it wasn't a failure in that it was and still is a beloved system with a lot of very impressive games on it. That being said, it wasn't the commercial success its competitors were (and compared to the N64, lacked visibility, everyone were talking about the PS2). It just didn't have the library the Xbox and PS2 had, but what was good on it was VERY good. In that way, the Gamecube's story is not disimilar to the Dreamcast, which most popular consider a commercial failure, despite being one of the most beloved systems in history.

[@Sirmeatwad]

@@lightningalex2235 looool it has easily the best library of the 3 consoles of its time with the most unique games you still to this day can't play any other versions of

It's sad that a console that was 1 generation ahead of the XBOX was at the same exact specs.

[@pallios]

Spends the entire video pointing wii's superiority > ends up picking the Xbox over the two. Well, you are an Xbox fanboy alright.

[@LiamHq2022]

Did you know that wii sports file name is sports pack for revolution could be a left over from development when it was called revolution

[@lionfire3359]

God damn the original xbox was so powerful it bested the Wii which is 2 generations ahead. Hats off to Microsoft for th iui s incredible system.

[@ToTaLShaFF]

Happy New Year and MVG, keep up the good work brother!

[@kirtid3]

0:17 "nintendo licked their wounds after the failure of the gamecube" what

[@INRamos13]

The NGC was a commercial failure, yeah.

[@bitset3741]

@@INRamos13 Not a commercial failure, they made money on it, and it sold nearly as many units as the Xbox, but it was 3rd place behind the PS2 and Xbox. It would be more considered a commercial disappointment. (not even listed in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_failures_in_video_gaming )

[@TheTurnipKing]

the Wii may be the single best example of hardware reuse in history. They didn't stop selling the GC. They respan the hardware into the Wii, bundled the motion controller and scored a smash hit.

[@lightningalex2235]

Microsoft was busy licking their wounds too.

[@mcrecordings]

@@bitset3741 I remember it being heavily discounted though, whilst the Xbox/PS2 held their prices, and still no one (I knew) wanted a Gamecube probably because it didn't have GTA :D Had the Xbox got GTA 3 at launch as was originally planned (iirc) it probably would have been different with regards to sales compared to the PS2.

[@nicolasanderson]

Best option just get both. Been stated so many times. My original Xbox is still stock but not too much longer because I want to get rid of the dvd drive before it goes out again

[@dekutony]

Homebrew Wars: 3DS vs PSP

[@nezatrebovan]

Psp wins

[@Dash120z]

DS vs. PSP* DS wins

[@AchileDeji]

DS vs PSP 3ds vs Ps Vita

[@Majora_T]

I would like to see a Genesis mini vs. SNES mini homebrew comparison.

[@killy9999]

The more I learn about homebrew on consoles the more obvious it becomes that the whole effort is about attempting to run software that a PC can run better already.

[@nexttrackmusic2748]

zytkqnvpjb that’s true in a way, but I look at it as a way of unlocking a console’s potential. I own a pc for emulation but I still enjoy homebrewing a console. Especially on handhelds like the 3ds you can take a lot of systems on the go and the console isn’t that expensive

[@killy9999]

I mean I totally understand the fun of hacking a system to understand how it works, etc. but if your goal is just emulation then using a PC will be easier and will bring better results. And of course handhelds are a different story since they offer something that a PC does not have, namely portability of the system and the ability to play anywhere.

[@Tom-jw7ii]

zytkqnvpjb the wii and the xbox are both dirt cheap and connect to a tv easier for multiplayer. Both are far more portable than a pc, especially the wii. Also its just nice to have natively supported controllers that work every time without setting them up.