Honda eu2200i VS Honda eu2000i Should you upgrade ??

[@davidsalmons5606]

Thanks for your review with very useful information. I have an 8 year old EU2000i and it has been great. For virtually no noise reduction and a very small 200 watt power increase in the EU2200i, I have no desire to upgrade. If Honda would have increased the power output to maybe at least 2500 watts or more in a like sized unit, then I might be interested in upgrading.

[@johnnysweekends]

Exactly would love a 2500 watt model and this motor is more then capable. A 2500 and a 5000 that doesn’t weigh a 130lbs…😒 lol. Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀

[@aaronbreitbard1086]

Really well done. Real world comparison and consistent between runs. Useful information. Thank you

[@johnnysweekends]

You’re welcome 😀👍🏼

[@Asidebar]

I have the 2000 and the 2200 both are fantastic. I bought the 2200 long ago before they had bluetooth and the CO which I prefer not to have. They have never failed.

[@shanwar9844]

I've got two of the new one's and love them.

[@johnnysweekends]

I agree the new one is nice. Just wondering if I had a old one or two old ones would I upgrade or just keep the olds and now worry about the little extra power. Unless I really needed it. Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀

[@utubetjc]

I upgraded my 2013 EU2000i. Had 325 hours and sold it for $675. Love the new model. Great comparative review!

[@johnnysweekends]

Wow good price. They do hold good used value. But yea the new is nice…. Where’s the 2500 watt version 😅 And thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀

[@javacup912]

I have an older 2000i generator, around 2010, and still strong, though I've had to replaced the carb a few times. I'm thinking about upgrading, but if I could get the 2200i with at least a 30A plug. I know they are pricy, but it's probably time I do upgrade.

[@RaymondLee-uu4jz]

I have two 2000 and will keep both. I cannot see any value in changing. Thanks

[@cajun3197]

I had the 2000 and it was great. I how have the 2200. In eco mode the 2200 can handle a little more in rush but both are great

[@TheFixitGuy65]

I would say only upgrade if you absolutely have to in order to run that larger rv ac unit if you have one and that’s your priority but if you have one of the older ones that’s tried and true, that extra 200 watts might not even be needed. My last power outage, I ran 2 refrigerators and a freezer chess,2 TVs with cable boxes, internet/router, a few lamps and a box fan continuous and the average wattage was around 500. Even when the compressors kicked on it was only for a few seconds that there was a surge. I just plugged in each unit one at a time and let it run for a bit then plugged in the others after the surge of each unit went back down. I even manage to run my 1000 watt microwave while all these items were running. So unless you just want the latest and feel you actually have to have the extra power then go for it but as for me, I’m sticking with my eu2000 for now because I really only needed it once or twice a year. I can just use the extra money on accessories and maintenance.

[@valmikabeneteau7229]

I have an early one bought in 2003 for a "Finding Nemo" project I was working on. (that's how I remember when I v=bough it) It was running 12 hours a day for that project for 3 weeks. Since then It has -powered my house through the infamous back feed cable (Hey it's only 2000 watts. #12 wire can handle that.) it ran for about 8 hours one Thanksgiving when we had a power out. It did shut down with overload protection a couple of times until I figured out my 110 jacuzzi heater was on. I shut that off and it ran two refrigerators and a oven igniter and whatever else was on that leg of my panel. Just went out today after watching some videos on it. Cleaned the carb and it started on the 2nd pull. I thank you for this as I was starting to think about upgrading but 200 watts extra with an engine that is 20% bigger but the same size fuel tank. I think I will keep my old girl and just give her the TLC that she needs. Thanks you just save me $1200

[@TOURMANBOB]

Looking to buy the newer unit because of the slightly larger engine and slight increase in output. All local dealer only have the older units in stock so I will be waiting awhile before buying

[@Arthur-Gieves]

Thats crazy as I was recently given one that wouldn't start as I already had one I took it home gave it a service the jets were dirty a quick clean and it was humming like bird putting it up for sale now for £500 pity your most likely in America otherwise she'd be yours if you wanted her. It's a sweet little machine hope you get one on a deal.

[@KuntalGhosh]

For ac loads u can not get the watts just by simply multiplying volts and amps. If u only multiply volts and amps you get the voltamps reading. And the generator is rated for 1800 volt amps and 2200kva peak. That hair dryer has a triac which causes very poor power factor when set to low and that's why the power meter is measuring lower watts than va. When u set it to max the triac is bypassed and so there remains only a heater which is a resistive load and power factor goes unity which makes the meter read out in kv and watts same. The meter is accurate here and the actual heat output is still 170w.

[@brianbartulis9709]

"smiles" Just looking around. I've a 1987 600 watt(max) camping job. Still runs/starts like a champ, as well as my late '99 EU 3000is. I like them Honda's. eep! 1200.00 for a 2.2k, 2400.00 for a 3k?! I guess I've not looked in a while. My 3K was in 1600.00 range I thought. That's some deep pockets to gift the neighbor's kid boondocking in a van for a 2.2k.

[@johnnysweekends]

Yes prices are crazy lol

[@andrewsmith9980]

That's why so many people are buying the harbor Freight unit. I believe there 3,000 w inverter generator can be had for $699

[@paulbarela6548]

I have the EU2000i and wanted to get the companion years ago but never needed it. Unfortunately the serial number of the one I have doesn't work with the EU2200 companion. If I need 4400 watts i would just buy the 2200 and new companion and use the older one around the farm.

[@Asidebar]

any 2200 with parallel with another 2200. I even parallel my eu2000 with my eu2200.

[@darrelmartin8261]

Thanks for this!!

[@johnnysweekends]

Your welcome Thanks for watching 😀👍🏼

[@Discovery123.]

Is the 2200 good for household in case of power lost? Thank you!

[@johnnysweekends]

Yes it can be if you hook it to a generator inlet box that’s wired to a critical loads panel. That’s normally the easiest so you can put the circuits you want. Like the kitchen for the fridge or gas/electric water heater. All depends what you need to run. That is what you need to decide.

[@Asidebar]

YES I run my refrigerator, some lights fans, coffee pot etc. You don't need everything running at same time.

[@lesolson2380]

Absolutely worth it when running a 15,000 BTU RV rooftop A/C with a Hush Kit, and Micro Air Easy Start installed, and the Honda EU 2000i will not quite run it, but the EU 2200i will!!! That’s my case! LOVE LOVE LOVE Both of these generators and absolutely agree that you don’t need to upgrade from EU 2000i to the EU 2200i unless you have a situation like mine!! I kept the EU 2000i for other standard uses where I don’t need the little bit of extra power that the EU 2200i provides! GREAT video again Johnny, Thank you much!!!!

[@johnnysweekends]

👍🏼😀

[@bossu2005]

Agreed: I have a 12,000 BTU Window AC and the EU 2000i could not cold start the AC unit. It was not a big problem however since whenever I needed to run off the generator, I'd always run (2) EU 2000i's in parallel, but after purchasing (2) EU 2200i's, Just ONE EU 2200i can cold start that same AC unit. That 200watt and 22cc improvement makes a big difference! I too kept both of the 2000i's

[@bricknboxer]

Thank you for your input. Our very old, 600+ hrs Honda 2000 will sometimes work with our 13.5 roof air but when it's very hot (like when you really need air conditioning) it sometimes struggles or fails to start it. We also have installed the Micro Air. For all other jobs the old Honda works fine but I do believe it's getting tired.

[@johnnysweekends]

It should run the AC unit with a easy start and watt pull should be about 1000 -1100 but correct when hotter heat will cause resistance a king it harder to start and run. Plus if up in altitude that only makes it harder. Only thing to due it make sure you have fresh fuel, good spark plug and clean airfilter, but also check the spark arrestor and make sure that clean. If all is good than yes could be getting tired. Although 600 hours isn’t that much for a Honda

[@lesolson680]

@@bricknboxer I definitely Understand the EU 2000 producing a bit less power when it is hot, all generators are susceptible to that.Iin my case using the EU 2200i overcomes that issue running the same air conditioner simply because it produces a bit more power to push it over the edge of what is required and makes it easier to handle even in hot weather.. Good Luck!!

[@johndough1738]

Worth it no, but I sold my mighty little 2000 with my RV! The new to me RV I removed the old 8000 btu AC and installed a LG 9500 dual inverter AC and hoping I can run the AC and microwave at the same time. We will see.

[@johnnysweekends]

Yea that will be close..👍🏼

[@yxcvmk]

Would like to know if the 2200 uses more fuel for same load (eg. 500W in eco, or 1500W on Eco). From the specs sheet (fuel capacity and runtime), it seems as *the new one burns more fuel per Wh?*

[@johnnysweekends]

The 2200 has a larger engine. And larger engines burn more fuel. Plain and simple, especially because its just a small carb engine with no fuel injection measures so smaller engine will burn less fuel.

[@yxcvmk]

@@johnnysweekends Yeah, in general I am with you, but there are instances where larger displacements will be more efficient than smaller ones for the same output. And on top of that, with so many years between the release of the 2000 to the 2200, I would have assumed that the efficiency overall (for the engine and the inverter) would have increased to the point, where at least the 2200 would use the same and not more fuel for the same amount of Wh... Guess I was wrong :-)

[@Asidebar]

Both will run for over 8 hours on less than gallon of gas.

[@rcairflr]

Local stores here have the EU2200I on sale for $999. With a Veteran discount I got it for $899

[@johnnysweekends]

Finally they moved the price down…👍🏼

[@JamieFaux-qi6ip]

What store im trying to save a few dollars

[@johnnysweekends]

@JamieFaux-qi6ip Amazon actually has it on sale!!!! Crazy check it out ! amzn.to/3Vn5vMt

[@rcairflr]

@@JamieFaux-qi6ip Home Depot, Lowes, Northern Tool

[@rcairflr]

@@johnnysweekends It is only temporary.

[@Josephine-sm2db]

Yes, well worth upgrade due to carbon monoxide indicator and the fuel OFF selection.

[@ifyoudisagreeyouarewrong]

lol

[@georgesrisomsak9650]

Thanks for making these videos. It helped my decision to spend the $ for proven quality. I just bought one of these very newest units with the co minder. I will absolutely find a way to defeat it this winter when this year's work ends. Seems no one has figured it out yet, or I haven't searched long enough. I'm a highly certified Ford technician of over 15 years and an expert in the 12v electrical field, I'll surely figure it out, and spread the knowledge around. I'm contemplating one larger unit, or to get another and parallel for heavier loads. I've read where you can parallel even more together? Maybe I'll have to try it. 😂 So far, I've added a 12gal Sceptor tank with a super high quality, American made quick disconnect fuel line that was crazy expensive and total overkill, and the anodized aluminum bundle(oil extension, cap, magnetic drain plug) an hour meter(I know Bluetooth counts them as well) and a cover for storage. I have 36 hours on it so far, 4 oil changes in that period. Lots of metal in the first two changes within the first hour. I'm seeing near zero now. I expect my next change at the 50hr mark to be near zero. Rotella 5w40 T6 is what I use for my particular cold weather use(zero degrees F and below slightly, on average). Pulled on the very first try out of the box, no kidding, maybe the second compression stroke literally, and every-single-time since. I'm pretty impressed with that. Makes me feel like it was $ well spent. I almost went with something else, but after realizing how much praise they get online everywhere, and here on this channeI spent the extra $ and went team red. You've got far more experience with gen sets. I also have a Yamaha ef2400ishc, but this is way lighter, same size engine almost, more fuel efficient, and just as powerful. My Yamaha will get donated. That's how good this Honda has been so far. I use it to keep my truck warm with a space heater in the winter months doing security overnight in the la sal mountains near my home in Moab at 10k feet. Even up there, where it's used, it starts first pull, always. I can't wet stack my diesel truck idling it at these sub freezing temps to stay warm all night and morning, so this takes that abuse. Cheaper than an engine replacement from oil dilution, it truly saves a ton of wear and fuel. I should have a Wabasto diesel powered block heater, but this is actually cheaper, and multi use. I can't plug my a/c from my 5th wheel into the Wabasto! 😂 And my truck starts in negative temps after a over night sit like butter. Cold weather, high elevation, high watt abuse for 12 hours strait at a time. Y'all be talking these things up something fierce, let's see it pass MY grueling test. I'm curious how many hours I can get, with very rigorous maintenance. I only hope the engine is as quality as the tried and tested japanese unit. Soon it will also see duty in parallel to power the toy hauler, charging a 1000ah lithium bank, laundry duty, cooking with electric, water heater.... All the heavy shit. I'm Thai myself(look at my crazy last name) and hope my Thai brothers built the particular unit I bought from the depot on a VERY good Friday. Cause I'ma hammer this thing into an oblivion, with a literal endless fuel supply. Let's see what Japan has on build quality, vs Thai built. Thanks for the reviews, I've watched many, and almost went a complete different direction, but I like quality stuff. So far, I haven't been disappointed. Let's see if that continues. You're welcome for the longest comment you'll ever receive on youtube! 🤣 Thumbs up and subbed for more reviews! Thanks again man!

[@johnnysweekends]

Lol awesome comment, and yea sounds like you’ll be using it for sure. Should throw a hour meter on it. Oh and just unplug the co sensor and it will work fine. 😀👍🏼

[@24vignettes94]

OT: Sams Club email today (08/07/2021) says Westinghouse 2500 inverter generator is $399, down from $599. Just a heads up.

[@johnnysweekends]

Big price drop..👍🏼

[@Asidebar]

Great price I'd buy one if they were still that price.

[@johnnysweekends]

How many have thought about upgrading your old Honda and do you think its worth it?? Or do you think buying a older model is a better deal then spending $1100 for the new model when a good used can be had for about $500?

[@shanwar9844]

I think either way you're in good shape. If ya have the older ones keep them in my opinion. Either way Honda is cream of the crop.

[@Asidebar]

I only buy new generators.

[@samuelfarrar8954]

thank you so helpfull!

[@johnnysweekends]

You’re welcome 😀👍🏼

[@BillySBC]

Except for two things: RPM's and Engine displacement. The 2000 watt generator with the smaller motor will run at higher RPM's which means more wear, and the larger engine size of the 2200 watt generator will handle initial compressor load from a refrigerator or A/C unit much better without dropping down in volts as much as the 2000 watt version. All other things being equal, I'm taking the 2200 watt version over the 2000 watt version all day long.

[@johnnysweekends]

Ahh but what about Honda quality. There have been far less issues with the eu2000 than the eu2200 which does not seem to have the same quality build the eu2000 has. Some say it was the last of the Honda 20 year generators as even Honda seems to realize that 20 year units don’t sell more products. Sooo 🤷🏼‍♂️ I prefer the 2200 if I didn’t have either one. But you can find sweet deal on used eu2000s for 500-750 in great condition and low hours.

[@nicarob4257]

@@johnnysweekends Will the eu2000i run a house appliance like a refrigerator ?

[@johnnysweekends]

@nicarob4257 yes 👍🏼

[@Asidebar]

@@nicarob4257 YES

[@JohnDoe-np3zk]

@@johnnysweekends i have one lightly used eu2000i and two unused ones in boxes. I think using premium non ethanol gas helped yesterday after dumping old gas adding fresh cleaned plug that was oiled changed oil. Was running rough in eco mode but given time it smoothed out a lot. I dont add fuel stabilizer maybe should but oh well.

[@paulbarela6548]

Is there a solution for using the older serial number EU2000i and the new EU2200i companion? Anyone at least try it what is the difference I have not researched it but would like to know maybe I can put together a parallel circuit to resolve the problem.

[@johnnysweekends]

Several people run the 2000 unit and 2200i in parallel.

[@Asidebar]

I have an old eu 2000and an eu2200 that i use the Honda parallel kit with that works great. Been doing that for several years without any problem.

[@DJDoubtIt81]

100% worth the upgrade. Better overall performance, gas shut off, little more quite, better efficiency.

[@MrSims-ky2ne]

Gas shutoff on the 2200 and not the 2000 that didn't age well.

[@josevaquedano788]

l 2 unit 2000 watt is gre generator to my l bought one Eu 2200 for my mon for the reason the they have shut off fuel easy for storage is the only significant difference the l see between to my Eu 2000 are great l conect in parallel when l need more power

[@cascaderetriever7618]

The new version has that dumb CO sensor. Decreased reliability

[@johnnysweekends]

I agree but I bet there is a bypass or will be. I know you can replace the block. But yes when you wanna run the green and all or a sudden no power because the CO sensor is flashing well, that will always be the most inconvenient time.

[@bossu2005]

And they eliminated the 12v receptacle.

[@johnnysweekends]

I know right I mean at least put a 12volt socket or USB ports or something

[@bossu2005]

@@johnnysweekends This guy has the bypass kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYeblKSNfs6Dors

[@LThill-ks2uz]

how come Im seeing 4 vendors selling the eu2200 for $80-$90?

[@johnnysweekends]

Because those are scammers … remember to good to be true, probably is.

[@Asidebar]

If that was a honest deal they couldn't keep them in stock. I'd buy 100 of them

[@paulbarela6548]

The EU2200i are only compatible with EU2000i or EU2000i Companion models within a specific serial number range: EAAJ-2017305 through EAAJ-9999999 EACT-1000001 through EACT-9999999 Mine appears the be before this: EAAJ-1282*** Will it really hurt electronics with under voltage. If so I would just get the 2200 companion for the 30A rv purpose and use the EU2000 stand alone.

[@Asidebar]

That not accurate I parallel my 2000 with my 2200. Never had any issues. They have KZbin videos showing it.

[@jason620362]

I would say not to upgrade

[@stevemoss1221]

I have two that are about 12 years old. They have been totaly abused, rolled around in the back of the truck all of the decals worn off oil changed maybe some of the time. can walk out right now pull on them maybe 4 or 5 times wii start and run like new. ABSOLULETY BULLETPROOF!!!!

[@johnnysweekends]

Hard to justify it if you have a good older unit

[@darkerbrother1]

@@stevemoss1221 You just described why you buy a Honda 😀 There are also no metal shavings when you finally do change the oil

[@cascaderetriever7618]

I agree. The CO sensor is a major bummer.

[@jeffjohnson7956]

Breathe.....

[@johnnysweekends]

I did when I was done, almost passed out 😂

[@ConSeann3ry]

I appreciate you talking fast and not drawing it out!

[@derekinPhilippines]

who even talks that fast.