Honda Grom Oil Pump System Mod Pros and Cons | NOT a How To

[@MDnooners]

Awesome video. Super informative. I really wish I would have bought my wheelie pump from you. Just got mine from a very popular manufacturer and was disappointed with all the kinks in it and the small 1/4 inch copper tube used and no flaring either. The aluminum tubing on the pumps you're making is top notch. The whole point of the pump is to protect the engine - you get it.

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! I'm glad you get it. I got into Groms and saw the pump options out there and honestly couldn't understand how people could sell that stuff. The community deserves better and I'm trying to do my part, ha, ha. Thanks again and hope to ride with you one day 🤜💥🤛

[@MrAlanevo]

Made my own 3 years ago. Only straight tube. But 7k pretty much all on the back wheel. Especially considering it’s a 181 I don’t think that’s too bad. Awesome video, your pumps look best by far.

[@GromBeardo]

Hell Yeah! Thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to comment! #muchappriciated 🤜💥🤛

[@MiniMoturd]

Solid vid man, easy to understand🤙🏻 that scene from the “The Office” was a nice touch to🏍💨👍🏻

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks for watching, Bro! Yeah, I'm trying to do something different, gotta keep that audience retention metric up there, ha, ha.

[@joereed7326]

This is pure gold GB,you are a wizard ,,🍀✊

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks, Bro! Just trying to get the info out there so people know what they're dealing with, if they want to, ha, ha.

[@Image-X]

Great video. 👍 Nice to see what is happening in there. Subscribed.

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks, my man! Thanks for the sub and for taking the time to comment!

[@pmfilmsUK]

Brilliant

[@THESHOCKER805]

As always, great information!! Thanks for taking the time to go over all of this🤘

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks! Trying to educate people as best I can.

[@bravo20ghost27]

Best video I have seen on the oil pump mod, thanks brother.

[@GromBeardo]

Dude, thanks so much! Hoping to get the knowledge out there. People should understand how this stuff works. Trying to shoot two videos today. One explaining my pumps that I make and another explaining the differences between the high flow pumps that I also offer. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment, much appreciated 🤜💥🤛

[@bravo20ghost27]

@@GromBeardo mate, you're doing a brilliant job. I have a few bikes, one of them being a 2021 KTM 690 SMCR but I would really like a stunt grom. This is why I have been doing my research first before I start the process of buying the parts and building one. Any chance of getting one of your pumps out to the UK?

[@GromBeardo]

KTM690, baby! Nice! Sumo is the way😁 Groms are so much fun though. I have as much fun building them as I do riding them! Absolutely, my man! I have pumps all over the UK and beyond 😊 Just shot me an email at: [e-mail] and I'll make it happen. UK usually runs $110total, if I remember correctly. Let me know though and I got you 🤜💥🤛

[@armdrop101]

Relocation is good for a hard pulling motor. Under hard acceleration oil pulls back into back half of the case.

[@GromBeardo]

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[@-JohnSmith-]

There's a compromise with any oil pump mod and that's being able to go downhill, especially breaking hard downhill. I put clear tape on the case cover and filled it with the correct amount of oil And with where yours ends above the bottom of the case and that far back you're sucking air going downhill at about 20° or less. If you're running the motor standing at at 12:00 or 1:00 on a 12 bar you need it as far back as possible if you're only doing sit Downs where that case bolt hole is is about ideal.

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks for commenting. Yeah, no perfect solution, but we try. Fortunately most people that need an oil pump mod aren't going down hill on two wheels often 😂

[@killagrom7964]

Awesome video. Great break downs. I was wondering other than more cooling from higher oil flow; what’s the benefits of the kitako/yuminashi modded oil pump

[@GromBeardo]

Bitches. It will get you even more bitches🤪🤘

[@karmaclanton5544]

Thank for the explanation, I like it!!!

[@GromBeardo]

Absolutely! I'm here to help when I can. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch an comment. #muchappriciated

[@GGLiEx]

thanks for the great explanation

[@GromBeardo]

You're very welcome! Appreciate you witching and taking the time to comment! 🤜💥🤛

[@calvinlynn2342]

Just ordered by first pump from you happy I got it before I blew her up

[@GromBeardo]

Hell, Yeah! Thanks, my man! Packaging up your order now. Take care of that Grom and it will take care of you 🤜💥🤛

[@calvinlynn2342]

Thanks man iuno if I'm more excited about the sticker and flag or the pump lol !!

[@GromBeardo]

@@calvinlynn2342 🤣🤣🤣I threw in some extra stickers for you, so you can let the local road pirates know what's up😁 The flag is shipped out through Printful. Made to order, so hopefully it gets sent out soon. Just don't want you to be let down when you get the package and it's not in there.

[@calvinlynn2342]

No way !! Thanks grom beardo I'm Jacked !! It's crazy customer service you are definitely one of us 👊👊

[@GromBeardo]

@@calvinlynn2342 Absolutely! It's a business, but I'm here for my people first 🤘 Hopefully I'll catch you at a group ride this Summer. I'm already tired of this Winter shit and ready to ride 😁

[@irongoatrocky2343]

Aaron......you need to do an update for the 2022 Grom here!.......I am waiting on an oil cooler mod for my bike as I have a 4 row Morin Cooler from an SP but am going to use the Kitaco SP Upper Tappet Cover instead of bringing it out the side near the Oil Filter.......mount it up high as possible and keep the stock air box and TST Cover Intake.....(note I'm running a Belly Pan as well so I opted not to run the cooler lines from there!) like I say Im not a stunt rider but just want good road performance, and here in the Bangkok Heat cooling is optimal!

[@GromBeardo]

Bro! I know!🤣 I need a '22 here in the shop. Since it's got the filter and stuff I'd like to show more of the whole system. I keep looking to buy one, but I'm cheap and there aren't many clapped out '22s around here🤣

[@WH05DAT]

Ordering mine now

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks, my man 🤜💥🤛 #stayrad

[@runtriderrocky]

Very helpful video ⭐💙

[@GromBeardo]

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!

[@1386922014107]

Great video

[@GromBeardo]

Awesome! Hope it helps! I appreciate you taking the time to comment 🤜💥🤛

[@JohnnyChimpo2]

Great video! What about adding the Kitaco Clutch cover that uses the oil filter? Does doing the oil pump mod bypass the function of the oil filter in the clutch cover?

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks for the great question. The Kitaco cover just replaces the spinner with a filter element. The pump mod only eliminates the metal screen in the stock system. So, you're just going from spinner to paper filter, but the Kitaco cover is always a great upgrade from stock setup. Hope that makes sense.

[@laurentstephan3921]

Thanks a lot for the translation ( in french its perfect)

[@GromBeardo]

Awesome!

[@karlalton3170]

Hi Aaron dead interesting video mate , can i ask a question please ?. You show the oil starting off from a chamber on inside of the case at back of where oil pump sits ? why do you not run your new pick up pipe that route and through the hole already there then the oil is going through the screen and less bends in the new pipe , can it be done ? Cheers from Thailand bud 😎😎🤘🤘🇹🇭🇹🇭

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks for the question, watching and actually thinking about this stuff! If I'm understanding you correctly, which I'm not sure I am, ha, ha. You're talking about extending the pickup starting at the chamber in the middle of the case? Or somewhere before the screen, in the system? Nothing like that would be a "bolt on" modification, from what I'm thinking. Maybe you mean in the side cover and running it back to the rear of the engine? Would still need to plug the hole in the case though.

[@karlalton3170]

@@GromBeardoYes thats correct starting in the chamber near the filter , could you not drill and tap the hole in the rear of chamber ? or get a bulkhead fitting in there ? then just connect your pipe to it and run it to were you do on your mod ? In effect your feeding the chamber with your pipe and not relying on the oil running into the chamber like it does .

[@GromBeardo]

​@@karlalton3170Sure, but you'd have to disassemble the whole engine to do that.

[@harrisdoesthings]

Liked the way you used the white wire to show oil flow, but question; in a stock engine, what is the % split of oil from the oil pump going through the side cover vs metering port to the head (explained at 2:55). Reason for asking is I'm planning on running a turbo on the stock engine, and currently I've got an oil cooler off a Kitaco side cover. The question I'm trying to figure out is: would supplying the turbo from the metering port be enough to lubricate it, or would I have to go via the side cover -> turbo?

[@GromBeardo]

Right on! Always thought a turbo Grom would be a fun little project. Honestly, when I'm starting a new project like that, I'll try and find someone who's done it before and see what they're running. (@gogotankgirl on IG) It's an effort to make things easier on my part and not make the same mistakes. I'd figure they're running off the side cover though. The majority of the oil coming out of the pump goes to the rest of the engine, as opposed to the head. I'd think if you pulled off the head you'd be "stealing" oil from the head. Those are my initial thoughts anyhow 🤷‍♀️

[@john-nx4xn]

Do you ever get rid of the oil spinner and reduce rotational mass?

[@GromBeardo]

No. I've got a Kitaco cover sitting here for almost a year now. Haven't made the time to install it or all the other things in the pile of parts for that bike.

[@MikSane]

Yep, going to order from you than the other site. Do you recommend doing 1.25q oil changes for downhills? My only concern for these stunt pumps

[@GromBeardo]

Yes, you can do 1.25qt oil change if you're worried about it. If you've got a '22+ I recommend more oil as it seems to help with the transmission bearing noise issues some people have.

[@lukeburritos]

Also, Your oil pickups use 5/16” OD tubes? (Aka 8mm rounded up) Not 1/4” OD and what method do you use to seal the extended pickup to the pumps? Im in the market for buying a pickup rn and you seem like you know whats up

[@GromBeardo]

Yes, 5/16" Aluminum. Tubes are brazed in place👍

[@Bro-io4ph]

does the newest honda groms (2021-2022) need this mod?

[@GromBeardo]

I haven't been inside one, yet. Everything I've heard leads me to believe they have basically the same oiling system and oil pickup point as 2020 and older.

[@johnd8471]

Just picked up my 22, I wonder if you have had chance yet. I'm thinking about ordering a pump.

[@L4rge]

The goat

[@GromBeardo]

🤜💥🤛

[@SomeCrazyItalian]

Thank you,

[@GromBeardo]

You're very welcome! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! Stay Rad!

[@joujimiichi1]

Could I ship you a modded pump (from the most common modding companies…) for you to fix? I mean rip out that 1/4”, kinked and un-flared copper tubing and globs of RTB and fix it up with a proper aluminum tube?

[@joujimiichi1]

For a 22’ Grom btw

[@GromBeardo]

Oh man, that'd be way more work fixing their fuck ups than it'd be worth for me. I just sell new complete pumps. I may be able to help you out though. DM me on IG or FB or just email me and we'll see if we can fix you up. [e-mail]

[@josephsaucedo8691]

When you mod it with the tube and it by pass the filter if the particulates are metal it could be use full to drill and tap a hole on bottom for a oil pan bolt with a neo magnet under the pick up tube. You could also drill a indenchin in case and JB weld a neo under the tube instead of drilling and taping but I don't really trust jb weld. It will help the life of the engine either way exspeclly for people that don't keep up the oil change. Ps Honda should also of put a oil cooler with electric fan instead of having to buy a koso cover 300$👎best motor upgrade only 400$ more than cover hole engine kit zs 190cc 5speed swap come with cover and oil cooler included👍

[@GromBeardo]

Yes, fitting a magnet would definitely help grab the metal particulates.

[@anthonybranchflower4308]

Where can we purchase ?

[@GromBeardo]

All my parts are on www.grombeardo.com 👍

[@fearthereaper1300]

Where do i get the mod?

[@GromBeardo]

I'll have them available here in a few months on the website. grombeardo.com

[@lukeburritos]

Shi i change mine prolly every 50 miles

[@GromBeardo]

Good! Air cooled engines love fresh oil😁

[@michaelpinkston4628]

I would never bypass a filter or screen on a gear pump or any pump for that matter. Your asking for reduced life from your pump and engine.

[@GromBeardo]

Yes, that should be obvious. It's a choice between starving the pump for oil or bypassing the screen. Which would you choose, ha, ha. I'll take dirty oil over no oil all day long. Thanks for watching and bringing that to my attention. I must not have explained things well enough. We're gonna wheelie these bikes, so it's one or the other. Take Care!

[@RustBeltFab_]

😎👍🏻

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks for watching! 🤜💥🤛

[@-JohnSmith-]

Go slow and take your time took me about 70 hours to perfect balance point in first gear without looping

[@GromBeardo]

Thanks, John! I felt BP this last time out, hard to explain how it felt, but I liked it, ha, ha. #seattime I'll get there eventually.

[@-JohnSmith-]

@@GromBeardo best instructions right here... kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6bdfnaHjJmErLM

[@GromBeardo]

@@-JohnSmith- Agreed! That one was already in my favorites 😊

[@-JohnSmith-]

@@GromBeardo Sounds like you're at the point where you don't want to ride them out because you won't perfect them, now work on getting them up past balance point as fast as possible and hit the brake to bring them down. Just keep practicing that and you'll know when to let off the gas and how hard to hit the brake so you can bring it up from in front of balance point to behind, that's the hardest part is working out how hard to hit the brake and when to get back on the gas to keep them going then you can ride them forever...

[@GromBeardo]

@@-JohnSmith- This last time out I think I felt BP on the short uphill part of my driveway. Everything kinda slowed down, it was funky but felt good. Trying to get a feel for that foot brake and to stop trying to control everything with the throttle. Thanks for the tips! #justthetip

[@rzb6]

do u know where to buy the left side case. i must have overtightend the camchain tensioner bolt and it cracked the case. also thx for the vid it helped me!🫶🏽

[@GromBeardo]

Any of the major parts suppliers, like partzilla.com or even your local dealership can get parts at reasonable prices pretty quickly.

[@rzb6]

@@GromBeardo thanks