Honest Trailers Commentary | Wild Wild West

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Wiki Wiki... *FYI, next week Honest Trailers Commentary is moving to the Screen Junkies main channel! Watch us react to that week's trailer every Wednesdays at 10AM Pacific. Why Wednesday? So we have time to react to your reaction to the trailer which was our initial reaction to the movie. Capiche? Hit us up below with any questions.* POOL RULES One: Speak up and join the conversation- we encourage respectful debate. Two: Respect your community- racism, misogyny, homophobia and hate speech aren’t tolerated. Three: Don’t go looking for fights. Four: “Be nice.” - Dalton from Roadhouse

[@justinleon6506]

The movie with Rob Riggle you're thinking about was Dumb and Dumberer

[@SammyRebbo]

I hope that since this will now be a day after the honest trailer that the commentary will be able to run longer. I mean, I'd be fine if you did like an hour's worth of commentary if you have that much stuff to talk about. The honest trailer now is going to be like a prequel to the commentary!!!

[@stefers8451]

All I want are more Dan and Spencer rants 😉

[@pennavedc]

So I guess I'll move my HT watch day to Wednesdays cuz I OF COURSE watch the commentary before the actual trailer. Come @ me SJs!!!!!!

[@marceloferreira8340]

I feel like charting with Dan should go to the main channel too. It's such a good deep dive it's used as a point of reference in r/boxoffice

[@Ben-qg6rj]

Petition to have 17:22 come up on Charting each time Dan wonders if a movie has "legs" or not !!!

[@Cobralalalala]

seconded

[@Thermalions]

Motion carried

[@JoanieDoeShadow]

The character of Artemus Gordon was both an inventor, linguist, and master of disguise in the original Wild Wild West TV series. It was a very meaty and fun role. I'm sure Kevin Cline was excited to play the role because of how good a character the TV version was.

[@stackels97]

Studios re-making movies that DIDN’T work in an attempt to actually make them good is the best idea next to making original material!! I’d be so keen for that!

[@areyoucrazy4768]

Stacey Yeah...like Stallone’s “Judge Dredd”...wait a minute..

[@vincenthalfprice9930]

@@areyoucrazy4768 Perfect example - Stallone’s Dredd was dreddful, Karl Urban’s Dredd was f’in great Sure, Urban’s Dredd lost a lot of money in theaters but the Blu-ray sales had to be good

[@abbyehrenstein2550]

Omg I remember the prequel to ww2 joke rant. It was so good

[@benzaiten933]

good times indeed! that's still irking Spenny!

[@benabate7506]

abby ehrenstein it bothered me too.. that joke should’ve at least been understood by everyone

[@TheSharbear14]

I remember the rant, but I can't remember what trailer the "prequel to WW2" joke was in.

[@benabate7506]

TheSharbear14 Wonder Woman, set in WW1, the prequel to WWII

[@benzaiten933]

@@TheSharbear14 wasn't it Wonder Woman? because she fought in WWI which was, of course, the prequel to WWII

[@alexramirez5104]

This movie will forever remind me of the Kevin smith story about John Peters and that giant spider he wanted Superman to fight

[@zacharyhuffman1863]

It makes sense to move it, but honestly, the only reason I watch Honest Trailers is to understand the commentary. I really enjoy y'all riffing off each other.

[@romanbeal9453]

@@thedarkemissary me too

[@stefers8451]

I love you guys so much! My only hope with the upcoming change is that we get more Spencer rants!

[@thomasrussell758]

agreed, I really just watch for the awesome spencer and dan rants

[@HerrTipple]

I read a, very frank, interview with Barry Sonnenfeld in Empire magazine years ago where he talks about this film. One of the funniest things in the interview was where he mentioned that Kevin Kline was extremely insecure about Kenneth Branagh being in the film. The reason for this is that Kevin Kline is apparently very proud of his pedigree as a Shakespearean actor, however Branagh is one of the finest Shakespeareans of all time and many would argue the best, or joint best, living Shakespearean (along with Mark Rylance). So according to Sonnenfeld, whenever Branagh was on set, Kevin Kline would be constantly doing soliloquies from various Shakespeare plays and generally looking like an insecure child acting out. Sonnenfeld said it was very disrupting and just plain embarassing.

[@akirebara]

"Clap back at the haters." I love you guys so much. So excited for next week. MORE SPENCER RANTS, PLEASE!

[@telectronix1368]

"Honest Trailers commentaries: Okay, haters, here is why you are wrong."

[@akirebara]

@@telectronix1368The Wonder Woman Spencer rant about WW II origin story always come to mind.

[@jbearclowater]

Only if we get an equal raise in Dan rants too. They are rare, but watch the commentary on Transformers: the Last Knight, and strap in for a treat.

[@jloh3256]

Rob Riggle in Dumb and Dumber Too

[@grahamcann1761]

"The Wild Wild West" was a wonderful series ('65-'69), with two great follow up movies ('79 & '80) with the Robert Conrad and Ross Martin. (I am a BIG fan.) And Dr. Lovelace was a regular villain played by Michael Dunn, whose stature was occasionally mentioned (he had legs) but the main focus was that he was truly an interesting villain (think Loki). Many of the little things in the movie were attempting to pay tribute to the series: Man in the painting, Artemis Gordon master of disguise, the train. For years I've tried to find positive's with this reboot... but you're right. "It sucks." As always thank you so very much.

[@kirak1561]

Graham Cann Dr. Loveless was a great villain in the movie. What are you talking about? He was a really cool& interesting villain. And a movie doesn’t have to be like the TV show. I don’t get the hate for the movie at all.

[@ericbjohnson1745]

The fact that Danielle brought up Kool Moe Dee saying "Wild Wild West" in the song is both a beautiful thing and constant reminder of how old I am.

[@timotei360]

I used to live downtown, 129th street.

[@justinr3217]

This has to be the best underwhelming 90s movie where Kenneth Branagh plays a scientist whose plan backfires on him and one of the characters is attacked by a lynch mob that even the people who made the movie criticize today. Wait, isn’t that Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein?

[@gregwodzynski941]

Damn now I want a Maverick honest trailer. I fricken love that movie.

[@erikgoodrich2976]

I haven't seen it in forever, but now I really want to! Such a fun flick

[@SultanFilm]

Thr reason for Kline's character doing the disguises is that was Artemus Gordon's main deal in the tv show.

[@ShirDeutch]

Was he also a horny virgin in the show?

[@_Boobear_]

@@ShirDeutch no he wasn't

[@ShirDeutch]

@@_Boobear_ so it's definitely a 90s thing...

[@_Boobear_]

@@ShirDeutch yeah i guess so

[@matthewschwer9099]

I live in Minnesota. I'm on my way to your studio to politely request an apology.

[@MrSidenote]

The best part of this movie was the soundtrack. It gave us Enrique Iglesias' Bailamos and a bunch of hip hop artists an excuse to do western themed songs.

[@agusti92]

you mean Bailamos?

[@MrSidenote]

@@agusti92 Yes, my mistake, Bailamos.

[@MarelorMoon]

about the "disabled"-gags by Will Smith: Loveless did similar gags about Will Smith's skin colour and slave jokes, they even had kind of a back and forth at the party.

[@cartoonkelly7924]

This movie needs the Jay Sherman treatment. I know I’m not the only one who misses The Critic.

[@brandonwoodard1956]

Cartoon Kelly I still watch the Critic on KZbin every day lol. Classic show.

[@JohnBainbridge0]

It's the best Will Smith buddy-cop movie set in a alternate history, where a sloppy commentary on racism - written by white guys - is passed off as comedy. No, really tho. *Bright* was even worse!

[@AlexOvTheAbyss]

To me, Bright was just boring, and I actually liked Wild Wild West

[@jordanwilde9226]

Nah. I actually enjoyed Bright.

[@Spyweb88]

Get Spencer on Hot Takes to do Wild Wild West with Billy!

[@jeremymac23]

I love the idea of moving it to the day later. I remember when this was on plus at one point you were reviewing almost a week later and it gives you more time to really think about and give more insight about it.

[@katmckool]

Kevin Cline dressed up because the original character was a master of disguise. That is straight from the source material.

[@wilhelm2451]

In the original series Artemus Gordon was big on disguises, so they probably felt they had to play on that.

[@rsusarrey8841]

Can we get more Dru hill, Sisco and Will smith talk?

[@benzaiten933]

Spenny made that channel changing announcement with the subtlety and finesse of Keanu Reeves's acting in "Break Point" 🤣

[@brentage5000]

That's because HE is an F....B....I. AGENT!

[@TheSharbear14]

I think the reason Jim never points out that Loveless wants to bring back slavery could stem back to the fact that Jim wasn't originally written to be black. The backstory about Jim being a slave was added after Will Smith signed onto the movie.

[@RudeAlert]

Has anyone ever brought up the idea that whenever the group starts to all talk together, someone should maybe stop the video while they talk, and not always wait for them to say "Pause"?

[@JohnMC61]

And the band is back together-all smiles today. I still have my BK Wild,Wild West sunglasses that they gave away with the Western Whopper.

[@TownianScout]

Me too!!!!!!

[@kylegerbrandt]

About time! More people need to see these! I think they end up being 'better' than the trailers just because I love all of the behind-the-scenes stuff!

[@sarawolos6051]

Best commentary line up!! You guys bounce so well off each other 😁

[@aaronbrothers6923]

Last Action Hero would be a cool Honest Trailer.

[@martas.8780]

So, next week is Game of Thrones vol 3?

[@TheLowBrassDude]

If it is then Spencer and Dan will have their work cut out for them!

[@kevinw712]

I haven't finished watching this commentary yet, but ooh I kinda hope not. It feels like it still might be a bit too soon to do a full tackle of that. Can still use a bit more perspective via time, I'd love if they waited more toward at least mid August for that.

[@benabramowitz18]

I thought they were doing Splash (1984), but I just realized that that came out in March.

[@jermhoosierfan]

Would GOT be considered a summer blockbuster though? I was thinking Splash too till I looked up that release date.

[@martas.8780]

@@jermhoosierfan Spencer said he mentioned it "30 seconds ago" (when he is listing remake petitions) and Dan said it is kind of a hot topic. This is why I guessed GoT

[@mbyerly9680]

The TV show was original, clever, and funny. Also, great actor guest stars and horses. It did have the typical Sixties spy movie fondness for treating women like sex objects crawling all over the heroes which made me roll my eyes, even as a little girl, but, otherwise, it was awesome. I've read that Will Smith apologized to Robert Conrad, the original James West, for the movie. As well he should.

[@StephenShepherdOfficial]

The change absolutely makes sense, including posting these a day later. Good on you, Screen Junkies!

[@tamikroeck35]

My contention with this movie as always been, from the time I walked out of the theater having watched it, they picked the wrong villain. Michael Dunn worked HARD, in the TV show version of Dr. Lovelace, to make sure that while Dr. Lovelace was a villain, we had empathy for him. Dr. Lovelace was a little person back in an age when the only thing they were thought capable of doing was being in circus sideshows. His villainy was based on his ire at being a VERY smart man, but because of his size, no one would take him seriously. He was going to make everyone take him seriously. Michael Dunn played him beautifully, and that's why we was a reoccurring villain on the show. It wasn't just the character, but how Mr. Dunn made us feel for this villain, and want to see more of him. What this movie did with our beloved Dr. Lovelace was downright disgusting.

[@brandonwoodard1956]

This is one of the only movies I will forever defend. This movie is fun and funny and a good movie. I didn’t take it super seriously. Will Smith and Kenneth Branaugh are hilarious. Kevin Kline did good. Salma Hayek was good. I thought this was super imaginative. One of the only times I disagree with you guys lol

[@brandonwoodard1956]

Ok. Upon viewing of the honest trailer, I get it lol. This is not good. But for whatever reason, I still enjoy it! Everybody has a stinker they like lol

[@papamoosey1595]

We all have at least one terrible movie that we love, even though beneath the surface we know it's terrible. Mine is The Room. Or John Carter. Or Armie Hammer's Lone Ranger. Or basically any big budget flop that Disney put out post-Pirates of the Caribbean. I love many terrible movies.

[@jerrywalters8885]

While not Will Smith's best movie I have always loved this movie ever since it came out. Hilarious and well done for the time with a great theme song and video. No matter what anybody says

[@langleymneely]

The people in the painting gag is from the TV show guys. Just watch the opening theme to Wild Wild West. It was a motif of the show, though the way this film does it makes no sense. Also Kevin Kline plays the President because in the original tv show they had the same actor that played Artemis play the President too so he could impersonate him in various episodes. Also never mind the fact that Loveless in the tv show was a little person, that was not racist! Sure, cut off a guys legs, that equals the same thing! Lol

[@pattheplanter]

KZbin might actually recommend the commentary after I watch the Trailer now, or even have it as the autoplay video, if both are on the same channel. At the moment I just look on your other channel after watching the Trailer.

[@slrizor]

Yes, Kool Moe Dee had a single called "Wild Wild West" on his album How You Like Me Now? The Will Smith song samples that.

[@khrashingphantom9632]

I feel like I'm in a parallel dimension. I love this movie! It's so damn crazy! I can't think of another movie with a giant robot spider that breaths fire and destroys old western towns, and a black cowboy that hunts and kills old Confederate soldiers on a high tech train! I loved this film even if it's dumb. Also that man's head line broke me. Come on Screen Junkies! Not once did you guys bring up the fact that they used a severed head as a freaking overhead projector!! Any sane person would be freaked out by that no matter the time period. Also the 360 degree shooting tank, this is just freaking crazy. You guys were a little hard on this one.

[@jdankerdake]

Minnesota is not included in that yellow plot of land - it would be in the top left of the light gray tract. While not home to many large urban centers, Loveless Land would contain an abundance of natural resources and beauty - Nevada is nicknamed the Silver State, you'd have Crater Lake, the Cascade and Rocky Mountains, Yellowstone, the arches of Utah, big sky country, forests and fisheries in the PNW, and the agricultural bounty of some of the great plains.

[@codybishop7526]

You guys have the funnest job. This is what I needed in my Tuesday morning.

[@EGOS42]

They were going to collaborate on a wiki for this honest trailer. Couldn't decide if it was the wiki wiki wiki wild wild west or the wiki wiki wild wild west wiki.

[@psyrolz1626]

22:24 I love these commentaries!!! My god, that killed me!

[@jamstonjulian6947]

11:20 "There are dozens of us! DOZENS!"

[@AntonioPanthroRusso]

This is crazy with subtitles, at 19:26-19:29 . I think Spencer says "Young Will Smith in this movie would have eaten that head.'' however he mumbles it fast and the subtitles read "Young Girl Spaceman would have eaten that head"

[@JDotWill]

Seeing that video, I don’t blame Will for passing on the Matrix based on how it was pitched too him. & I doubt it would’ve been the same cultural phenomenon with him & Val Kilmer as the stars.

[@hondaqueen21]

Dan’s sooo right!!! This was the end of fun Will Smith... I miss fun Will Smith😞😞😞

[@DMCEagles05]

He is back in Aladdin

[@marikotrue3488]

I had forgotten that basically Wild Wild West was one long moment of pure cringe. BTW the villain's map does make a little sense, at least on the France portion, as it ends next to (in upper right Canadian portion) to Quebec. This is the map I used:www.amazon.com/Super-Sized-North-America-Puzzle/dp/B01N1EQSHJ so take that data for whatever it is worth.

[@nadine9142]

The one good thing about this movie is that a role that normally should have been to a white actor was given to a black actor. Which at the time, would never happen.

[@SAlcocer12]

An assasin camouflaged into a wall painting to kill Indiana Jones in Temple of Doom

[@davidh6284]

Lovelessland is all the best states for gold mining. So there is some reasoning to claim those for yourself.

[@302Diane]

Except for California. Also, Nevada is better known for silver.

[@beniverson3777]

I still don't know why people don't enjoy the dark humor more in this movie. Isn't there a part where a woman with a thick German accent is transcribing in real time the death screams of a field of Confederate soldiers while a super villain in a wheelchair stares at her ass or something? This movie is super f***** up and you just need to go with it

[@LowbrowDeluxe]

Giant mechanical spider. Totally worth it.

[@LowbrowDeluxe]

Gets to "This is one of the only movies steampunk enthusiasts get to hang onto and that's very depressing." I...I just...okay...yeah.

[@marcuswai]

Joe - Fanny pack and Zubaz is the fashion combo.

[@TheLowBrassDude]

The saddest thing about this is that the movie was written by the people who gave us Tremors and Roger Rabbit

[@Cobralalalala]

I'm ok with moving to the Screen Junkies page, as I subscribe there too, but making me wait an extra day for my commentary?!?! THIS AGGRESSION WILL NOT STAND, MAN!!!!!

[@carlrood4457]

I always figured this was on this channel so they could have two regular shows on each channel. Honest Trailers & Movie Fights on Screen Junkies and SJU & Honest Trailers Commentary on Screen Junkies News/Fandom Entertainment. OK, I always really wondered why they bothered with two channels in the first place.

[@metallicaddictno1]

I have never seen the movie but I looooooove the song!!!

[@neal8262]

Next week: Honest Trailer for Spencer's Dad.

[@Molson-xg9hs]

Thanks Joe and Dan for mentioning both shows that did living art episodes! Fun fact: Gilmore Girls’ only Emmy nomination it ever received was for makeup for the living art episode. As a huge fan of both shows, I always wanted a Gilmore/AD crossover where the Bluths have to hide out in Stars Hollow. I just need an Emily Gilmore and Lucille Bluth scene together. Also, Lorelei and Michael awkwardly date and Gob has to pitch a magic show to Taylor at a town meeting.

[@waynesmiley2207]

😂 at the sight of an ankle would have you changing your chaps

[@RoseRamblesYT]

I think it makes sense to move this show/segment over to Screen Junkies. I watch (too much) KZbin enough to know and understand that, whether you're one person or a big crew like you awesome people, a channel must evolve to survive. I think Joe or Spencer mentioned this during SJU when promoting the video on dragon power levels, that you guys are creating and trying new things in order to evolve (and survive the algorithms, yes/no?). Again, it's what makes sense and just something you need to do in general. Part of what I'm trying to convey is simply, I think you guys are awesome, and am happy to support you wherever you go. =)

[@TrekBeatTK]

Virgin Aspersion - name of my new emo band

[@IronMaiden1164]

They are doing an honest trailer for my Dad?

[@thejimmie]

So when are we going to get True Lies??

[@brennank1254]

Checking in from Baltimore, home of Druid Hill neighborhood where Dru Hill is from, and Sisqo of course. You should do other Steampunk failures like Sky Captain & The World of Tomorrow.

[@gundamnmechas8518]

Haha it would've felt wrong if Spencer wasn't on this specific commentaries thumbnail

[@jonathanortega753]

Please do all honest trailers for leathal weapon franchise plz!

[@me45116]

15:45 Another great episode of Mapping with Dan & Co.

[@TheStoenk]

I like how the editors keep using songs from the videogame the Movies. I loved playing that as a kid

[@AntonioPanthroRusso]

UNPOPLUAR OPINION: I love 'Wild Wild West'

[@dorje78]

Every single background is a picture of the Mittens in Monument valley. Even at the end of the trailer, when they fly off the edge of a cliff, the backgrounds BOTH WAYS are the same picture of the Mittens.

[@welshign375]

1 of my Fav Movies featuring Will Smith!

[@tasims1015]

It Was Rob Riggle in Dumb and Dumber Too

[@M1keFoxxx]

Sims Mchako definitely the funniest part of that unfunny horrible movie. Though, I did chuckle at the Pete Stainer joke

[@JBarber117]

I'm with ya Billy. I know it's dumb, but I love this movie! Still a funny honest trailer though. Good job as always.

[@kypzethdurron]

It's not even a guilty pleasure; it's legitimately good. If it were a Carrey film like The Mask you'd enjoy it. Fight me.

[@kypzethdurron]

(the dubious OTT sex and misogyny are bad but that's a ton of films like Sandler and Transformers that still get defenders.. Short jokes are in Shrek and the defence is that they're a bad person but yeah it's a bad message)

[@athegreat9970]

The all star commentary cast!! Yes I watched this first

[@bradoltmann9188]

Thank you for straightening the camera right upper sconce!

[@christianrapper]

I don’t care what anybody says. I love this movie.

[@lucaschaplin6233]

I hated this film so much that i even did a review of it a year ago "standard critic" where i pulled no punches and gave it a zero

[@oneopinion6806]

Hey what are you snapping in Minnesota for!? Also given the area near the corner of Lake Superior is well outside Loveless territory that would place most of not all of MN outside it as well. Feel free to take it out on the Dakota's though!

[@LoVeAbLe_Usako]

The commentary break about Dru Hill is just amazing (I'm literally seeing them perform next week) Also after watching this commentary I re-watched the music video which is way more entertaining than the movie lol so a positive

[@benjamincook320]

I could see the Val Kilmer Morpheus. A touch of Chris Knight from Real Genius asking questions he knows answers to, a little Doc Holiday wisdom/tuberculosis for the torture scene with the Agents...thank God we got Laurence Fishburne.

[@colby2763]

I love this idea. Now I will have to comment on the honest Trailer.

[@JTKirk]

You know what else is gross about the Arliss Loveless no legs jokes? The character is without legs because he's based on the show's villain Miguelito Loveless (the movie producers not even bothering to learn the character's first name) who was played by a little person -- excellently too, and he also played the deep Alexander in the classic Trek episode "Plato's Stepchildren." So the movie character is half height because he's based on a dwarf, which is just cruel and thoughtless.

[@realtrini2007]

I guess I am one of the few that like wild wild west.

[@jbearclowater]

You and Billy Business can go stand in the corner and have your own party then.

[@thegreyinitiate3680]

The whole Maverick is a sequel to the tv show thing is similar to what they did with Mission Impossible. Jon Voight’s character in the first movie is an older version of the main character of the original show.

[@kirak1561]

I don’t think the movie deserves the hate it gets: it had some funny scenes, cool machines& devices. Dr. Loveless also is a great& cool villain. Kenneth Branagh’s acting was awesome for him. The only annoying part was Will Smith in some scenes.

[@larquefausse3623]

As a commentary-only watcher, I'm disappointed that we have to wait another full day for these videos.

[@leeheinrich9661]

Becomes Artemus Gordon was the inventor and the master od disguise in the TV show

[@matto3639]

Minnesota isn't in there... it ends at north Dakota

[@courtneyjohnsonhaber4591]

Did they not know Dru Hill? They were huge in the 90s!

[@dane.2294]

I have a nostalgic love for this movie. In my defense, it came out when I was 13 and booby humor was right up more hormone fueled alley.

[@generalkenobihellothere7389]

This is the first string line up. Joe, Spencer, Dan, and Danielle. New format sounds bad tho.

[@jenanncreates1262]

Is the channel change going to mess up the HT Commentaries playlist?

[@HeavyC31190]

Game of Thrones Vol 3!!!!! Can’t wait can’t wait!!