Hop Roasts the ALG Defense El Jefe: A Rifle Designed by ChatGPT

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[@tinncan]

Why do we hate bcm now? I didn't want to afford their stuff to begin with...

[@Hoplopfheil]

I don't think WE hate BCM, but they took a bit of bad press over the last few years for some QC issues and a subpar customer service response. Sounds like a very isolated incident but it gets around fast on social media.

[@RickSanchez167]

Their QC has gone way down hill. They've had a decent bit of BFH barrels dieing after all of 2k rounds, and their customer service has been less than stellar

[@kobura2805]

Is there a timeframe for when these bad barrels went out?

[@koozie83]

My bcm mk2 14.5” middy is nuts. I couldn’t get a functionally better carbine if I spent 3x the money, probably more. It shoots 0.6 moa with Mk-262 mod C all day long at all ranges out to 650m from a bench with a squeeze sock and a shitty magpul bipod, and I’m not even a very good shooter (Geissele ssa-e trigger). I’m at 5500 rounds (not all of them mk-262, I aint rich) and have not had a single stoppage of any kind. About 30% of that count has been through a Silencerco Omega 36m in a 5” configuration on an ASR charlie 3 prong qd mount. Ejection is around 2:00 with the silencer and 3:30 without silencer (shooting mk-262). Minor cleaning performed at time of purchase and at each subsequent 2000 round milestone (wipe down and re-lubricate). Re-lubricate every 1000 rounds whether its cleaning time or not. I pull a boresnake through the barrel a couple of times before each training session (1-2 times per month usually). Ive been using high temp wheel bearing grease to lubricate - it stays put, doesnt burn off quickly, lubricates well and best of all, its really cheap and a small tub of it will outlast the rifle itself! No way I’d buy any other carbine. There just simply is no reason to. Every company makes errors and every company has haters. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@donjohnson5172]

Probably right around the time I bought one. That's usually how it goes. Something is solid, I scrape together some money to buy it, and then suddenly the internet hates it. Same goddamn thing happened to my MRO. I can't have anything 😢

[@BrassFacts]

The long awaited sequel in the "Hop insults product via the product page alone" series Part 1 was the Strike Industries Scouter. This was part 2 Join in for the thrilling conclusion when the OGL goes up to $4000 MSRP, and he has a mental breakdown live on stream.

[@BlueLoneWolf54]

You forgot the sidequel with you guys and the Springfield Saint ATC

[@BrassFacts]

@@BlueLoneWolf54 yeah that was a quick spinoff series.

[@BlueLoneWolf54]

@@BrassFacts you mean 'prestige miniseries'. Now we're talking with marketing terms.

[@BrassFacts]

@@BlueLoneWolf54 we need to hire you for PR

[@philrab]

I think a lot of the night vis community will join you in that meltdown over the OGL turning from a promising and reasonably priced LAM into trust fund tier also ran.

[@dusuldorf24]

Can we get this as a monthly series? No script just off the cuff roasts.

[@Steelboots47]

Paying subscribers could submit entries of dumb products or even their own build and pay hop to roast them. 😂

[@aregularperson7573]

@@Steelboots47SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.

[@Valorius]

Yes

[@A_potato9772]

+1

[@DueIistGio]

React content is cringe and should only be for special occasions.

[@PolenarTactical]

It sounds like the product description was made with the help of chat GPT

[@bakedandsteaked]

I thought the same thing so I ran it through a few detectors, but it seems like someone actually wrote all this stuff lol.

[@rcadd1ct]

What I came to say.

[@BangBangBang.]

@@bakedandsteaked I used to write trash content. 2 bowls out of a bong and a cup of coffee at 4 AM works sometimes

[@GFCat]

Rare Zhiga out in the wild

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

​@@bakedandsteakedBill probably wrote it.

[@enscribe]

This is made for the gun shops to say "it's just as good as a Geissele, but half the price".

[@nickadkins7765]

Ooooof! Sad but most likely true

[@newerest1]

"it's made by the same factory and tooling, it's basically the same gun!'

[@jkody]

"Is Sony guts"

[@msims1250]

My thoughts, exactly.

[@CantoniaCustoms]

Imo if you want max value just cheap out on stuff that doesnt matter and splurge on stuff that does.

[@AS-mt4co]

One of the rifles of all time

[@f308gtb1977]

Nice.

[@retiredrecon]

I think that's kinda the point.

[@SatanasExMachina]

Truly.

[@lucasblanchard47]

Dumb overused comment.

[@lordbiggulp]

ALG's marketing team is really talented; I'm 100% going to impulse buy another AR as soon as I get home from work. Their only problem is that it's going to be the cheapest 16" mid Palmetto has to offer. Thanks Hop :)

[@scherry9198]

Bought a PSA upper/lower for $350 during Freedom week. Included a back up sight too.

[@olecranonrebellion9976]

Why Palmetto? Plenty of idiots that think they know shit say they suck too. Like this channel i would not trust many of these goofs.

[@vinlandwerwolf]

I used to work at LMT. We would get the Sopmod stocks in from B5 disassembled and just assemble it with the lever that says LMT on it. They're the exact same stocks other than that lever.

[@SuperiorDefense]

Isn't JE machine the OEM for B5 sopmod though?

[@onseki1774]

The early GWOT small hole sopmod stocks from before like 2011 were not that great either. Iconic and good ergos but they fell apart too

[@makotoyuki2199]

Damn, well now I'm not so worried that my B5 SOPMOD stock that just came into the mail will be shit

[@theREALdingusMD]

@@makotoyuki2199They’re fine, I don’t know what Hop is on about regarding the B5s.

[@christiandruan]

😳

[@highsped]

I wonder if this self loader features a rifled barrel - a cutting edge design that allows for the stabilization of the tipped modern bullet, allowing for a dramatic increase in the effective range of this fire-arm. Would've been very helpful if they mentioned that, I'm debating on this purchase now...

[@CasanovaFrankestein]

Naming your rifle what some dudes name their junk is a interesting marking strategy. Maybe they should include one of those cod gun charms ,seems like it could pair nicely with it.

[@Matt-xc6sp]

Big Chungus

[@investigativeoutcomes9343]

the super duty rifle is gtg but wtf is this sht?

[@thh420]

if activision made actual COD guncharms, they would be the next little craze for shot show swag bags.

[@investigativeoutcomes9343]

cod went woke@@thh420

[@EcchiRevenge]

They should have just gone straight for a clone-correct pen-15.

[@linkbond08]

Back in the day Geissele was one of very few companies making quality parts and could charge whatever they wanted for them. Nowadays lots of companies have matched and exceeded their quality at half or a third of the price.

[@dalebob9364]

Seems people are all adult children and can't comprehend that their "$7k super AR" with a whole 4 courses ran and 2 classes is great, but they aren't! I'd bet any country kid that grew up with grandpa's single load spring bolt 22 or 20ga over\under, can pick up any 2a item and do better. I'm not from the north and I'm shocked to see people with setups worth a couple used cars per rifle or handgun be gobsmacked that someone could just pick up something and use it better than they can. The AR is great, but it's truly a "gamer gun" in comparison to the truly overlooked other options. For every perfectly built and functional AR I have seen, there's been 5+ that have everything or parts and pieces that simply don't work. But at least they're trying. It shocks me how many of them fail to follow things that kept a lot of Us alive as children when some neighborhood kid decided to bring out something from Dad's nightstand that wasn't a Playboy! It's been sad to see people get sentenced for a business card, while geissele put "FULLY AUTOMATIC" as their damn banner basically 🤡🌍 Before you respond. I know you didn't ask and no one hurt me! Have a good life!

[@45calibermedic]

​@dalebob9364 Most would say that the AR is a great option and it's not hard to buy or assemble one that works well. What are those other options?

[@-Seeker-]

@@45calibermedic Inb4 Bubba's SKS or an "AK-47". God forbid a Mini-14.

[@linkbond08]

@@dalebob9364 I don't think he AR is a gamer gun, my AR has brought a share and a half of game to the table, from deer to hogs to rabbits and squirrels alike. It's a useful rifle if you know how to set it up, scope, light, sling, not just to mag dump into trash, just because you can doesn't mean you should. I ain't gonna tell people what to do, and mag dumping into trash 15 yards away is fun, but you can do so much more too.

[@45calibermedic]

@linkbond08 my great uncle took deer for years with spine shots using his scoped .223 AR-15. Not the legal minimum, but folks out in the mountains where he lives know their limitations and use what they have. Not what I would do or recommend, but it's a data point.

[@CephasCastle]

Bill said you gotta buy my whole rifle if you want ALG handguards again 😂

[@natsuccubus]

Bendy G Money Bill and his elusive wife once again gracing us with their lovely optic that of course is from the *original* WW1 optics company

[@hehitmewiththatalphabetsou3337]

His wife's name at least. Jury's out if Amy is still existant

[@spehhhsssmarineer8961]

Amy Lee Geissele is 100% a marketing gimmick to sell more ALG parts.

[@Clockwork0nions]

I caught their reveal stream and thought “man this is going to be a great $600-$900 rifle” then they announced it was within $300 of a Super Duty 😂😂😂

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

Even the super duties are overpriced.

[@Clockwork0nions]

@@railfanningpoints2.045 I was pretty happy with mine last year in black for ~$1500.

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

@@Clockwork0nions I doubt you only paid $1500 for it, but ok, sure.

[@Clockwork0nions]

@@railfanningpoints2.045 It was a PA sale stacked with their Mil/LEO discount. You can get them way cheaper though if you buy blem’d parts on sale.

[@kxkxkxkx]

@@railfanningpoints2.045i got a Geissele duty grade for $1100 😊 new

[@cj3waker]

I went on PSA and added an 11.5 lightweight nitride upper, Toolcraft BCG, a chargind handle, MOE EPT complete lower (so probably the same trigger) and Holosun 403B to my cart for $600. I'll agree the buffer and spring, and gas system/block are not as nice, and the ALG rail (which is the nicest part of that rifle) is definitely better. The ALG barrel is also probably "nicer," but in any quantifiable way? I'd also take the Holosun over the Swampfox clone That leaves $600 to buy a turbo K and a stamp, and pin and weld it to your PSA for around the same price as this rifle. And all told I think that would be a far better use of funds than this thing

[@BandAid350z]

@@kalanipitmon7817would you brag about the El Jefe?

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

PSA stuff is often out of tolerance specs. If you're doing the entire assembly and QC you could probably build something somewhat decent. If you're buying something PSA cheaply slapped together, good luck.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

It is indeed the same trigger. they both have the Schmid toolmark on them.

[@RewardedRocki]

The only positive thing that came to my mind when I saw the Jefe was the possibility of the ALG hand guards returning. I know it is a slim chance but I share your love of them.

[@Loud_bike_fast107]

I’ve been watching for 2 years now, and he’s remained my go to for optics, lights, rails, etc. I hope you read this, because you’re one of the only unbiased and BASED guntubers left, while keeping a humorous and humble attitude. You’re not too much older than me, I hope you stay posting as long as I stay shooting!

[@theroguenob]

Standard issued m4/16 slings are made by blind 1-handed children in West Taiwan. Every issued rifle I've got, I swap it out with literally anything I have within reach

[@fiskersproductions]

Just make a paracord sling like LRRP teams did in 'Nam

[@DJ-fd4qk]

You mean they're made by blind Americans in a place called SkillCraftUSA LOL

[@crispy_338]

Wow a $1200 PSA rifle. What will they think of next

[@raifsevrence]

They will probably rename it to something like "Rapier" or "Cutl _ass_ "

[@sluttybutt]

Mark is gonna freak when he finds out bill copied him again by putting the C-note on top of a swampfox

[@jayhernandez8965]

As a jefe in the cartel, I disapprove of this quete!

[@NickBlazer-cf1vs]

Cuerno de Chivo es mejor!😂

[@jayhernandez8965]

🤣😂@@NickBlazer-cf1vs

[@knifetech101]

You better hope the BCG reciprocates 😂

[@christopherreed4723]

My Land Pattern Musket has a non-reciprocating BCG and it works just fine...😜

[@thetman0068]

@@christopherreed4723 they just don’t make them like they used to!

[@highdesertdrew1844]

This channel is where hype goes to die, and I'm here for it. In fact, I may be early for it. I kinda wanna make a dark roast joke, but it just feels wasted on this rifle.

[@toddinfl]

El jefe, El camino, El taco, El Hopo.

[@marcsman07]

Lol I even got the "Translate to english" option under this comment.

[@KJK_ATX]

You forgot El cheapo as in cheap shlt

[@spehhhsssmarineer8961]

El Geissele

[@toddinfl]

@@KJK_ATX El barato de Chopo con higado de lobo.

[@toddinfl]

@@KJK_ATX Y lo mas importante... El Socko!

[@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963]

I can't be the only one who feels like every time I listen to Bill Geissele speak it feels like you're being talked into buying a clapped out pinto with 3 tires and a roach infestation I'd watch more of these from hop

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

There's that. Their primary market is focused on arming the jackboot regime thugs who get paid to disarm the plebs.

[@olecranonrebellion9976]

Is this where all the budget guys go to whine?

[@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963]

@@olecranonrebellion9976 imagine thinking not sucking off Mr Bill makes you a "bUdGeT gUy" 🤡🤡😂

[@Apocolovids]

It sounds like a listing from some Randy on Gunbroker ...

[@fixedG]

Business-wise, it seems like a pivot to the already saturated budget market after plateauing when trying to get more traction with the URGI. I won't complain about a respected manufacturer trying to serve the masses though. Seems silly to ship it with cheap crap red dot and sling but I can imagine gun dealers pushing these to new shooters as a complete packages though. Maybe they'll carry that typical Geissele gassing that's really good.

[@Valorius]

$1200 is not the budget Market.

[@newerest1]

​@@Valoriusif it was 400$ cheaper out the door it would be a damn good starter ar15

[@Valorius]

@@newerest1 if it was 400 cheaper it would be a good duty AR for a person who needs an AR for work or HD but who is not really a gun person. I agree with you.

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

Anything designed to shoot underpowered steel case .223 Rem is going to have a larger than necessary gas port.

[@Brent-jj6qi]

Not a complete package anyways if it doesn’t come with a flashlight

[@Thigh5]

geissele rails are perfect for giving you secondary features you want with none of the primary features.

[@exodusz19]

Didn’t expect a video of Hop reading smut for 10 minutes

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

Doesn't he still work for James Reeves / TFB? Gunz smut.

[@AspenSavage]

I actually like b5 sopmod stocks and think they're comfortable

[@kdb1891]

You know there are gonna be people who buy this rifle and think they got the nicest rifle ever made. I can picture them now bragging about individual components of it

[@actionjksn]

They will still end up with a decent rifle that's reliable that lasts and is reasonably accurate. There's a lot worse shit than this thing on the market. It's not amazing and I could put something together a lot nicer for that money, but it's also not made with cheap low-grade parts that will fail early.

[@kdb1891]

@@actionjksn I’m not saying it’s a shit rifle. But I can just picture someone buying it and because it has a few G$ parts, they’re going to act like every part in it is the best you can get. It’s hard to explain exactly what I’m picturing. But it’s like someone who doesn’t know anything about guns or gun parts buys it and starts bragging about what’s in it thinking that the shit parts are actually good. Like that red dot “man this thing was designed in america. It’s super high quality” and just parrots the insane write up on their website.

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

​@kdb1891 Idk. Not sure if this will sell well. Budget and beginners will likely continue to go with a basic PSA or S&W MP tier.

[@kdb1891]

@@railfanningpoints2.045 I don’t think it will sell very well either. But the few people who do end up buying it will probably be conned into it by LGS employees who tell them it’s as good as a G$ for half the price. Then they’ll believe that and go around telling people that

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

@@kdb1891 That's a good possibility for sure.

[@flameguy3416]

Eyebrows on fleek

[@millbean13]

Lol. Thinking the same thing. the computer cam make him look like someone with alopecia just stuck on some fake brows.

[@mr.lovell3645]

I love the low pro Midwest QD swivels...less likely to accidentally pop the button and drop your rifle...I have a regular MW QD on the front in case I need to ditch my rifle. But it's nice to know that back QD isn't going anywhere unless you want it to

[@Quality_Guru]

Obi-Wan: "The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded." Outstanding review; may I have more of "Getting beyond the the Marketing BS", please!

[@olecranonrebellion9976]

Nothing but weak minded here.

[@BandAid350z]

Hop putting more effort into the roast than the advertisement and build team combined is great. And I’m here for it. Do more roasts!

[@MCLEO983]

I would love more content like this. I learned a lot despite the facts are wrapped in humor and sarcasm.

[@1977Yakko]

I recently replaced the triggers on my two Romanian SAR-1's with the ALG trigger. My only regret is waiting two decades to finally replace them. I've been putting up with that ridiculous trigger slap all this time for no reason. I like those triggers so much, I ordered their ACT trigger for my Sig M400 Tread. Not a terrible milspec trigger in my Sig AR but room for improvement. A pity the rifle in this video isn't great overall but I'm definitely a fan of ALG's replacement triggers.

[@EcchiRevenge]

Did you have to grind down the hammer to ensure smooth bolt travel?

[@1977Yakko]

@@EcchiRevenge I have a serious lack of tools so I took it to a local gunsmith for installation. He didn't mention anything about any grinding and said they went in real easy. He's more of a AR guy and he hadn't really worked on AKs much but he figured it out and both my rifle fire buttery smooth now. In fact, they're so smooth, I actually jumped a little the first time I fired it because I was so shocked at how light and easy to fire it was plus not having trigger slap any more was an absolute win IMO. If you got one of those old Century Arms AKs with the crappy triggers in them, these ALG's are the way to go.

[@EcchiRevenge]

@@1977Yakko So bolt travel is perfectly smooth, as in it's not making contact with ALG hammer when traveling?

[@jspec-vz3mc]

I've installed a couple in different aks. I noticed after shooting the non dremeled hammer enough, it cycles just fine. I did Dremel the hammer on an m90 though, and its incredibly smooth.

[@1977Yakko]

@@EcchiRevenge I'm not feeling any resistance nor did I notice any new marks or wearing on the bolt when I took it apart for cleaning after the one range session I did with them thus far. I put 180 rds through both my AKs at the range and they both worked fine.

[@drewishaf]

For $1,200 they couldn't make the god damned thing NOT look like a Bear Creek Arsenal rifle? It might shoot MARGINALLY better than a BCA, but you can also literally buy/assemble 4 or 5 BCA rifles for the price of this thing. Hell, you could get a 5.56 AND a 308 BCA plus cheap optics and mags for 1 of these. And let's be honest, MOST people (over 80%) won't be doing enough with either an ALG or a BCA for it to even matter.

[@SwaAusch]

Are you one of the illegals BCA hires hired or something

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

I think that the funny thing is they're trying to punch this up as a good "starter" AR when BCA is far more approachable when it comes to ARs.

[@SouthValleyKnifeCo]

​@@MalleusSemperVictorlmao. BCA is hot garbage

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

You probably shouldn't buy either.

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@railfanningpoints2.045Too late, lol

[@FabricSauce]

I’ve watched all your videos and I love them. I always look out for a new video from you, keep it up!

[@olecranonrebellion9976]

Huh. Just unsubbed after reading the comment section.

[@Mr.9x19mm]

Can't wait for LaRue's response

[@Hoplopfheil]

Mark will just raise his prices again

[@raifsevrence]

Can we interest you in one of the best triggers on the market for half the price or less of a Geissele trigger ? -Mark LaRue

[@Mr.9x19mm]

@@raifsevrence Sold!

[@uh60ce1]

No...this is absolutely a top 10 video and the most sarcasm I've seen in months. Bravo 👏

[@grcyvtcffuubucfuv]

WTF. This guy Iives inside?

[@almostontimehero5415]

Inside your head rent free.

[@zombieslayer7759]

​@@almostontimehero5415and inside of his mom for a low price of $24 and a pack of Marlboro's.

[@investigativeoutcomes9343]

20 bucks for a slightly used sister. lol@@zombieslayer7759

[@fulltism]

This is the best video you have ever made. Please make more, I beg. 🙏

[@utfanx2]

Super rails took off and Geissele didn't want to undercut themselves with the EMR. V1 was the best free float I've tried. Simple(tube!!!), light, and cheap was the trifecta.

[@scherry9198]

Why wouldn't I just buy a Bravo Company complete upper for $800, get a PSA BCM lower for $200, and a Larue trigger for less than $100. I'd probably have a better upper and save $100 over "El Jefe". Hell throw in a Vickers sling and it's still cheaper. I guess my version doesn't have the crappy red-dot, I've got a few laying around here. But I'm not really the target audience for this thing.

[@raifsevrence]

Looking at that marketing wank, I can only assume the consöömer they are targeting was dropped on their head as a child. Probably several times.

[@coreyp9211]

No reason. You should do exactly that.

[@a.c.m.4548]

I really love my V1 handguard and original ACT trigger. They were so cheap (as in $100 for both on sale) and have been going for 8 years.

[@toods2]

I've been looking forward to this.

[@zaner11b8]

My favorite part is when they say "will last 1000's of rounds" instead of thousands of rounds 😂

[@smartfella7914]

“Our rifle will last a whopping 1000 rounds!!!”

[@zaner11b8]

@smartfella7914 you think about it that's like shooting one dollar everytime at the range

[@smartfella7914]

@@zaner11b8 Technically a buck and 20 cents

[@zaner11b8]

@@smartfella7914 all to feed El Jefe

[@ashe1.070]

@@zaner11b8 Depending on where you get your 5.56 it can be as low as 0.46-0.38 cents a round. So, its really not that bad

[@dalebob9364]

We used to call this "flowery words" in English lit, when someone clearly didn't know what they were talking about in an essay 😂

[@madride858585]

Like you

[@wisco_guy]

I agree 100% on all points. This rifle seems like a parts bin collection of parts targeted to AR newbies who wouldn’t know any better. For that money, you could piece a nice BCM.

[@beachdrugpanda]

They definitely wrote that description for me back in 2017.

[@jordanwerzinski1574]

This is like Chik-fil-a making a McChicken to "appeal to the larger market". If I wanted a McChicken, I wouldn't be at Chik-fil-a.

[@KristoffFry]

Looks like a very acceptable vanilla rifle. The AI generated product description (and Hops review of it) is far more interesting than the product itself.

[@YeomanArcher]

My name's Jeff.

[@RightClickAnxiety]

I love the Geissele Super 42 springs and buffer weights.

[@workingguy6666]

All I know is that I have both the ALG ACT and the BCM equivalent, and I like the ACT trigger better - but I like the BCM a lot. They feel different enough that I wouldn't have guessed they came from the same factory - if they did.

[@brettbrettson69]

I bought that hand guard because the lightweight m4 in the division had one on it. Took me forever to find it

[@Dtrain323i]

Product description brought to you by ChatGPT and a marketing rep who was running up on a deadline

[@Esch_atton]

They spent less time writing that description than you did roasting it 😂

[@flooid5506]

That’s not a bad deal. I think it’s supposed to compete with the Sabre but they had to add a G$ tax to it

[@REF49]

Thanks for the effort, needed a good laugh.

[@CutlassOutdoors]

It’s fine. It’s about what you’d pay to build the same thing. But it’s not exciting in really any way. If you’re not really a gun guy and you want a rifle that checks the boxes of duty grade and don’t want to have to bother with figuring out what optic or sling to put on it, then this is an easy, no-brainer way to check that box. You can tell from the essay on what “mil-spec” means that they aren’t trying to sell this to anyone who knows what they’re shopping for.

[@homerj109]

Thanks for saving us money Hop! You should do more videos like these, there is so much crap and bad advertising being pushed it's refreshing to hear someone break them down.

[@shasboom5807]

This was great- and that was definitely Chatgpt 😂 Hopefully, they sell some block stretchers too- gonna build a bunker soon.

[@chadjohnson3714]

Hop, you have the best no-nonsense reviews hands down.

[@ssharma1384]

You can get a BCM for roughly the same price , another 100-200 , if you buy the upper and lower separately.

[@Xpnential999999]

I wish ALG would support their existing loyal user base. I have one of their rails but can’t get a front sight mount for it. The least they could do is put drawings on their web site so that we could 3D print them.

[@rowdystam]

Thanks.

[@dongypooh]

The handguards are available now. I ordered one today! It's on ALG's page.

[@morrokbyo]

You don't even have to wait for a sale, just wait for the weekend. PSA is KILLING IT with the deals

[@mrushing76]

I wonder if it was the lack of demand that has led to discontinuing of the ALG handguards. The ALGs were not "high speed" flashy looking, but strong and functional which probably led to their demise.

[@OreGear]

It almost makes you wonder whether they expected anyone to actually read the description.

[@lbwlawyer]

Sorry, but the voice of my father in my head compels me to shout “IT’S NOT FREE, IT’S JUST INCLUDED IN THE DAMN PRICE.” Never sure what financial trauma caused my Dad to obsessively die on that hill, but it now lives rent free in my head

[@happyhaunter_5546]

the writing on this thing is just...goodness.

[@pablowentscobar]

Sounds like 2/3 of the cost of the rifle went to the description writer. God d*mn William Shakespeare right there.

[@MrGhjkl63]

The description the same way I wrote all my written reports in school

[@Hoplopfheil]

Subtly increasing the margin size, using 1.25 spacing even though the teacher specified single spacing, these are the tricks I owe my diploma to.

[@MrGhjkl63]

@@Hoplopfheil same. Cant forget yo mention my homie: having extra blurbs of text in a tiny font size and changed white to have those extra characters if you cant otherwise meet the minimum

[@minisforerbody]

That is full on high school essay vibes init. 😂

[@WhiteAl01]

These types of videos are low effort but I still enjoy them. The great PTR-91 roast video was definitely a goodun too. Ever considered getting some entries from Poortex Warranty department for one of these roast vids?

[@noahkolis7014]

Good info

[@Grappler130]

I honestly wish we could still get the ALG hand guards. Never getting rid of the 2 that I have.

[@actionjksn]

If you want something good with what looks like the same mounting system check out the UTG Pro super slim free float handguard. I know that company makes some cheap stuff but the Pro line are made in America and good quality. They have 6 mounting screws and they hold up really well and are pretty lightweight.

[@akconcentrates2755]

Love the vid!

[@3istheanswer]

This is definitely one of the rifles of all time

[@fearnobizarre]

The best part of waking up, is Hop Roasts in your cup.

[@docternoblex]

I would have cut the price down $100 to be competitive with the Munitionworks(formerly militiaworks) JOE carbine

[@Sam-et3bv]

Please do more videos like this.

[@rendezvoushere7843]

Huh, the manual lathe I run is Warner & Sawsey as well. Interesting.

[@bradtidball5206]

If it had a Geissele CHF barrel, came without the weird red dot and sling, and was around $1k I'd be interested.

[@mwam1985]

Thoughts on best complete upper for $600? I've been buying PWS Pro uppers for that price target, they seem to be quality and I run everything suppressed, so the adjustable gas system is nice.

[@meanman6992]

Billet forging is a thing, but not like that… it’s like a billet that’s made via forging cause it’s for a non-homogeneous grain that way and so stronger, but then typically machined/milled.

[@Malibuthe6th]

would pay for long form hop gun content

[@Triple777z]

Hey Hop this is the first vid that puts me to sleep thanks.

[@spehhhsssmarineer8961]

Please make more roasts!

[@darthmartinez]

They should just put M4 stock and a standard A2 grip. That would knock the price down about a 100$

[@Doughboy1941]

It looks like a solid rifle. At that price I would expect a CHF barrel and a pinned gas block. The description looks like something written by a 6th grader for an English assignment. It really lets the rifle down.

[@randomidiot8142]

The name is cringe and the product mediocre. Instead of El jefe they should be calling it El dealer or Coyote or something else from the lower ranks. El chaperone.

[@Doughboy1941]

@@randomidiot8142 Definitely not mediocre. Is it amazing, no are there other options that are better, yes. That doesn't mean it's horrible. It's a decent rifle at an okay price. Street price will probably be $1000, might go on sale for less. It has some really nice features unfortunately it's let down by the cringe marketing. And yes the name is awful.

[@randomidiot8142]

@@Doughboy1941 not amazing, not horrible, better than some, not as good as others. That's the definition of *mediocre*: of ordinary or undistinguished quality.

[@Doughboy1941]

@@randomidiot8142 If the street price is over $1100 then yes I agree it would be mediocre. It will probably street for $1000 and go on sale for $900. At around $900 I think it would be a pretty good option for someone's first AR. Not having to spend money on tools and having a factory warranty would be a compelling reason to buy not build.

[@JustAnotherGuyOff]

Honestly, I turn into Hop videos when I need a dose of negativity, so not a whole lot. But dang, I watched a few minutes (rerun) of the Geissele livecast and when they got to the sling…I was done. So bad. This is spot on.

[@DesertDuc]

Lol, I saw some comments on the live stream reveal talking about how Hop would be excited to see the return of the ALG handguard but I had the exact reaction Hop did in that having only the 45s is just weird and difficult to use. I also called it with the optic and sling being basically worthless. Bill Geissele is clearly a bit of a geek and goes way too hard into the specs of the stuff he produces, I appreciate that in someone who designs and manufactures stuff but it's not always the best for sales, and it can turn into a lot of "word vomit" as is obvious in the description. Something that didn't come up in this video, Geissele spent some time in the live stream talking about how they were NOT going to use the A22 grip. Citing that even though he personally prefers the finger groove and the steeper rake for target shooting, most people don't like it and it isn't necessarily the most comfortable for a modern fighting rifle setup. He also went into how the A17 was modeled after the 1911, the greatest handgun in the world, and since the 17 degree grip angle is so prolific in the firearms world it would make the most sense for the A17 to come on the rifle since it's designed to be an "everyman's" rifle. Yet the product listing shows it with the A22... So not only will someone have a less than ideal handguard that they may choose to want to swap out eventually, they'll have a crummy sling, crummy optic, crummy stock, AND crummy pistol-grip that they'll probably want to swap out *immediately*. As is you could do a lot worse from a lot of other companies, but there's plenty of $1000-ish rifles that are kitted out more ideally. They might not have Geissele's QC or adherence to mil-spec, but a lot of that is very arguable value considering modern materials and coatings advancements. I think the smarter move would be to sell El Jefe "slick" for sub $1000.

[@T_bone]

11:20 After all of that verbiage they spelled "Safety" wrong...

[@dragonusmc0311]

Nice observation you would think one of their many engineers would catch that. 🤦‍♂

[@xmk-zc9eb]

Ive only recently subscribed & am not sure how I’ve never ran into your channel.. Well, glad I’ve found someone who tells it like it is & does so with class & taste with some spicy pizzazz.. It’s funny, I had a LMT Piston AR and always liked the SOPMOD butt stock with the battery storage compartments. I remember seeing this butt stock that literally was a replica of the B5 SOPMOD variant priced at the time around a fair $100… I then had been searching for the LMT SOPMOD on their website and noticed it was double in price which It definitely rubbed me the wrong way…. I’m not exactly sure if LMT’s SPMOD is identical to B5’s but it surely raised some suspicion. 🤙

[@JJheadcharge]

Didnt realize BCM was having issues, hadnt heard anything about it. Thought they were still the industry standard.

[@RickSanchez167]

Their QC has gone way down hill. They've had a decent bit of BFH barrels dieing after all of 2k rounds, and their customer service has been less than stellar

[@a2Asupporter]

Hey Hop, I have a V3X M-Lok 12" Black and 13" DDC looking for new homes 😉

[@spehhhsssmarineer8961]

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