Evolution of the Taurus Millennium Pro: PT-111 to G3C

[@Hoplopfheil]

Correction: The PT-145 (double stack .45 ACP) was available with an accessory rail, in both 2nd and 3rd generations.

[@weissrw1]

Back when the PT-145 came out there was no such thing as a 10 round subcompart in 45 ACP. I don't know if there is anything like it even now. I bought one and still have it (just in case the gov't goes back to a 10 round limit!).

[@burleydad]

Ronald Weiss I had one that I really liked. 10+1 of .45ACP?! ALl in a package the same size as the g2, well, it was a little fat. The one I had was in the lot number that was included in the Class action suit. Sent it back to Taurus and got a brand new G2c. I miss my PT145, but could not imagine the legal shitstorm that might happen if I was involved in something, anything, while carrying a recalled pistol. I did all the tests they said they were prone to and just could not get mine to pop. Oh well...

[@txgunguy2766]

Does anybody know where I can get mags for my Gen 3 PT145 PRO? When I bought it from the pawn shop it only came with one.

[@JuarezDerrick]

@@txgunguy2766 ebay has them.

[@txgunguy2766]

@@JuarezDerrick Are they the ProMag PT145 magazines because those don't fit the PT145 PRO. I tried. I had to use a pair of pliers to get one of them out of the gun.

[@Grdiniz]

They had the .380 version striker fired due to Brazilian market restrictions. But restrictions were lifted last year and now we are authorized to use the more reasonable 9mm G2c/G3 series

[@Grdiniz]

@john maziasz kind of yes... Lots of burocratic bull. You have to be 25 years old, Different test and a very clean criminal record. But the second gun is kinda easy but you have to register it to either the Brazilian Army or the Federal Police (a mix between FBI and ATF)

[@Grdiniz]

Just to add to the Discussion, Brazil have the TH380 (very similar to the TH9 in size and feel) which is a Full size Handgun in a .380 ACP caliber

[@frankernest3712]

@@Grdiniz Meanwhile, criminals just run around robbing people with impunity

[@alfredokppn]

@@frankernest3712 exactly! Has a decent citizen I had to wait long 8 months to get my gun, just because burocrats things

[@patrickhenry1030]

@@Grdiniz It's only going to get worse with that commie Lula in office.

[@57HEMIviken]

MOST UNDERRATED CHANNEL/ REVIEWER ON KZbin!!

[@mikemitchell1455]

Bought my pt111 g2 millennium back in 2015 and there was no reviews out there at that time in my opinion this model brought taurus back over thousands of rounds now no problems and i trust it with my life daily for the past 5 years .

[@babyblue8214]

Taurus innovates and updates to what we ask for.. much respect!

[@youtubeendorsesleftistprop4304]

Brazilian off duty cops probably love these things.

[@radomguy9678]

I just found your channel, which is great because I don't want to subscribe to the TFB channel for various reasons. I subscribed to yours. Anyway, thanks for the explanation. if I may, there were actually a couple of changes between the PT111 G2 and the G2C beyond the removal of Taurus Safety System. One common issue with the Pt111 G2 is that the trigger safety breaks because it is made of a hollow plastic. The G2C replaced that with a solid plastic molded trigger safety. A couple other tiny things, too, but I think fixing the trigger safety was a significant step. I'll be checking out more of your videos in the future. I hope you start to expand this channel as your time and effort allow! Thanks!

[@MasterChief773]

What’s wrong with TFB?

[@john-vy1ml]

Best gun for the money if funds are tight. I bought a g2 because it was 179$. Since then it became my carry gun with over 9k thru it. Didnt like steel federal ammo but has been flawless with everything else. Have since retired my glock 26 to the safe. These are awesome guns. Will definately be getting a g3c

[@sterlingmack5394]

Get G3

[@DaveTex2375]

That re-strike option was created with Tula Ammo in mind. One box was fine. The second box had several duds, but the re-strike ability came in handy. Now I understand how Tula got a bad reputation.

[@beargunn7820]

Great Taurus pistol evolution video, Hop. Good prediction call there, back in July; the Bainbridge, GA G3 guns are now in actual physical existence in November. Thanks for a very informative video.

[@lewisdundas1281]

I like your style and detailed matter-of-fact description of features and operation. It helped me decide to buy the G3C, and I am glad I did. I think it is a well designed and manufactured pistol that is comfortable to hold and accurate to shoot. Keep up the good work.

[@jwc00789]

Excellent detailed history of the Millennium Pro to G3! Posted to the TaurusArmed Forum. I have the third Generation Pre G2 Millennium Pro, love it, and carry it often.

[@BassFace1776]

My first ccw was a pt111 g2 great gun I never had any problems. Also I've had a few g2c's i always reccomend them to someone looking for a budget gun. For around 200 bucks it's a great way to get someone into carrying while not spending 500 on a glock. Most of those people are debating between that and a sccy (cool colors) but I dont think there in the same league.

[@jimmellenberger8505]

G2C comes in cool colors, too.

[@hammeruser7436]

They cost more than 200.

[@beautybyhammerllc]

Most unbiased reviewer . He either likes it or not . Price and Brand don't matter . Plus he is shooting the whole time

[@drewgregorys3227]

I'm still carrying my pt111 g2 9mm over 5thousnad rounds thru it and counting

[@mikemitchell1455]

Here too

[@JuarezDerrick]

Im still carrying a gen 3 pt145 pro .45 10+1 with no problems except it doesn't like aluminum cased ammo!

[@paulgarcia1566]

Thanks for the concise walkthrough of the Taurus subcompact 9mm Millennium Edition lineup.

[@roblit79]

I have a PT-111 Millennium (not the pro model) with a stainless slide. I purchased it from a local gun shop over 10yrs ago for $200. It has been a great little pistol.

[@ramosunity590]

It's always a good day when Hop uploads!

[@davidmatz5036]

Excellent, no nonsense insights with relevant information. A broadcast journalism career has your name on it should you ever want to make that profession honest. Glad I subscribed.

[@rebert69]

Your videos are excellent and very accurate. I appreciate you taking time to compile these informative videos

[@arceacousdeter8690]

I hope they do introduce a .380 or .45 version, I've been wanting a new affordable double stack handgun in those calibers.

[@reverendharrypowell2390]

Will there be a Video about the Taurus Model 85?

[@charlesjames5477]

I really like seeing the older model guns of late 90s to early 2000s I've just started conceal carrying last five years in my thirty's wish I would have in my 20s I had gun but always left at home or occasionally in my car now I'm always strapped with a back up lol

[@stevenkennedy4130]

Nice one! Any chance of a Stoeger STR-9 review? The STR-9's are really high quality guns. These could be the best budget pistols for 2020, IMO. Thanks for the solid content!!

[@peterconnor4193]

I got a g3c last week as my Springfield xd9 tactical is to large for ccw , very happy with the Taurus, it's not a good gun for $300 , it's a great little gun that costs $300

[@crankybuzzard6867]

good call..... I'm the same way. I'd carry my 1911... but that just doesn't work for me... lol THIS gun just is dependable and shoots great!!

[@crankybuzzard6867]

I LOVE the take down. Talk about easy!! Nice video!!

[@keithbailey6143]

I ordered a titanium PT-111 back in 1999. It never came in so my lgs just got the “regular” stainless PT-111. It has always been a handsome little gun, especially the two-tone variants.

[@swissbianco]

well done hop, what we sure need is that taurus make the titanium slide in the current version.

[@MoRoTheGKnight]

One of these days Taurus will send me the replacement gun for the recalled gun I sent them months ago.... they are good guns tho. I had the Taurus PT111 Millennium G2 Pro years ago and loved it

[@bonelessdoritoslocostaco5984]

I've magdumped a bunch of times with a buddy's Millennium G2. No hangfires, no failures to feed, never messed up can't say anything bad about it, really

[@jameslooker4791]

The polymer-framed, striker-fired pistol is just important for all manufacturers to take seriously. Just by consistently improving each generation, I am more confident that they care about customer satisfaction. The G2c definitely overcame any reputation problems of the brand. I'm interested how they improve the next generation of G-series. Doing something to allow DA carry or fully ambidextrous controls would definitely help distinguish it at the value price point.

[@weissrw1]

When you have a double feed, you have to rip (with force) the magazine out. Hence the cut out on grips. Good video. This is an important history and I am glad you did it. BTW, the Millennium Pro Series was a bit more partsy on the internals. It is my favorite. On the drop safe issue, the gun that went off on being dropped was a well used cop gun in Brazil. God knows what the armorer did to it. As to the safety issue, some had that issue, some didn't. I have a PT-111 that has the issue and another that doesn't. I have a PT-145 that has the issue and another that doesn't. So I am just careful with the safeties. Take care.

[@mattarchey4436]

I had the g3c, 2c too. Sold both. I regretted it. Also, I’m broke. So I found a pt111 g2 that I’m buying used today. I’ll keep this one.

[@g10s]

Much appreciated. Thanks for the review

[@TarmacSkin]

I was living on the past w Taurus until I visited the my local gun shop. I was looking for a cheap truck concealed gun. I almost passed when they recommended the Taurus. One of my fabe guns by far.

[@Marine0451]

Yo this video is awesome. Very professional.

[@azpolock]

Love my 709 slim. Now no small Taurus for EDC--don't like wider guns/mags.

[@zhaoyun3153]

@Hoplopfheil Hello. I was just wondering if you're eventually going to do a review on a CZ P09? Thank you.

[@brandonblake2078]

My pistol is the Taurus Millennium Pro titanium PT111 Pro 9M so far I've been very pleased with the gun I got it off a friend of mine for $220 with ammo that cost him about $15 a box

[@johnlacasse8893]

Excellent review Hop.

[@christophernemeth421]

I used to have one of the original models. I could never warm up to the heavy trigger, and the trigger pull and shooting the gun was not comfortable. I still have a Taurus Titanium 445 in 44 Spl in matte blue that you mentioned.

[@dirtysouthhc2936]

Excellent! I still everyday carry my PT 111 G2. I wanted to upgrade to the g2c and G3 but really could not find any reason to I figured the trigger out a long time ago and I loved the safety features as a new guy. In the long run happy I did not as now I will upgrade to the gx4. #Taurusguy4life

[@AOMartialArts]

This is basically Hop's way of saying, without saying, the G2c is bad@$$.

[@romeosgenericchannel3971]

I had the millenium DAO and the g2 , cant complain about either, i got my millenium in 05 i think , and the g2 in 2016 , both were great! And my millenium had the lock and 12 rnd mags, again i got it in 05 so , yea lol thanks for sharing , YOU DA MAN HOP! Had to make your own channel , bro got tired of him stealing the Show! XD

[@af22raptor23503]

Great Video! I have one of the OLD PT-140 40SW Millennium that I have had since 2003 when I purchased it as a novelty backup. Can the G3c 17 round magazines be used in the G2c? One other thing that Taurus did between Generations was that the Pro had Dovetail Sights where the Non-Pro had Sights that were held in place by a screw but that was done at MID Production so there are some Non-Pro Pistols that have Dovetails and getting after market sights can be a Royal pain in the ASS as I found out when I decided to put Night Sights on my PT140 and went with Trijicon and it took 3 different SKUs to get the right ones! I purchased both the G2c and G2s a back in 2018 on Black Friday when Academy Sport had them for less than 170 each and I thought what the hell try them out and worse case I can sell them for the same price if I did like them BUT they have been very nice Pistols Specially after I changed the SIghts to TruGlo PROs, and a Recoil Guide Rod to a Stainless Steel one over the plastic one plus the Striker Sleeve to a Stainless one from Lakeline LLC that move the G2c and G2s to be better than my SW Shield that cost twice as much. Taurus Hit a Home Run with the G2 and I think the G3 as well!

[@Fuzzybeanerizer]

Two years later the G2C seems to be alive and well. I just bought two of them from Dunham's for $224.99 each, which will be $199.99 each after I get the rebates. They were selling the G3C for similar prices, but I really hate the G3C trendy forward gripping grooves and really love the G2C fluted contour at the front of the slide. I like that these Taurus guns seem to have less of an ugly gap between frame and slide than many other plastic-framed guns, including Glocks... I hate seeing that recoil spring through the gap, and on some of the (more costly) competing guns the frame and slide really seem to diverge ugly at the front end. I consider this to be a nearly ideal defensive pistol. The grip is nicely shaped, nicely textured, and just big enough to get an entirely comfortable grip on. The 12 round magazines seem more than ample to me. The slide runs on a decent amount of steel rails, unlike my Kahr CW380... which is really daring in its minimalist engineering. The only thing I don't like about the G2C is the plastic sights. It appears Taurus is currently making some of these guns (G2C and probably G3C) in .40 S&W, though my local dealers did not have any in stock. It seemed an interesting/efficient caliber, but when I saw how current ammo prices are I decided 9mm is plenty powerful for a gun of this size and weight. I just bought a mess of Federal 9mm ball for $15 a box, not much more than it probably cost back in the 1990's when a dollar was worth $1.75 and .22 rimfire was $8.00 per 550 rounds.

[@Fuzzybeanerizer]

Oh, another "tactical" gimmick feature I really hate is the accessory rail at the front of the receiver. My G2C's do have a rail, but at least it is minimal and unobtrusive. I can live with these.

[@enriquetanevares8247]

Great historical video. Thks!

[@mikeskidmore6754]

Good Job I have the thrid Gen .. I was just able to send it back to Taurus to be replaced with a G-2-C . Will be nice not to have to worry about accidental discharges..

[@c.h.ingate5271]

At 1:26 through 1:35 he briefly covers the titanium version; so kudos to Hop. Note that there is no disassembly take down lever. That fact is not a problem and I suppose that the difference is attributable to metallurgical issues. Like other Gen 1's, the frame sides are flat which I found troublesome in that my thumb would unintentionally press the mag release. Later models have molded features that help prevent that process. I still have my titanium for which, in hindsight, I overpaid. Anyway, perhaps someday it will become a collectors item, given its scarcity.

[@joshuagibson2520]

Hop. The voice of common sense and reason in the pew pew world.

[@weissrw1]

This is great video history!!! Thanks.

[@sjustice5254]

Great firearm...got the millennium pro 2008 version. no problems and very handsome...

[@KAIJINN.6]

I have the pt140pro do you know of any magazines or sights that can be compatible to the Millennium pro

[@badhabit8824]

What a great video 🎉

[@gamez4420]

my dad got both the G3 and G3C around release, and the only real issues I've personally had when handling them is just failure to fully feed. it's been easily fixed just my smacking the mag/back of the slide and it's fairly rare. I don't think Taurus deserves the shit they get anymore for these, they really aren't terrible, never gonna be just as good as a glock or anything high end but they aren't as bad as some people would lead you to believe

[@dunsdonjone1537]

Are the 24/7 series and Millenium series the same gun in terms in internals and firing mechanisms? They only differ in size and externals right?

[@jasonguest5236]

Fun fact, the 145 takes Para 14 mags.

[@basicallyhell4150]

So we meet again

[@selfpreserve7581]

Great review. Hop, could you elaborate on the issue associated with loading the round in the G2 series to use a DA->SA/DA? I own a PT111 G2 & i do not use the manual safety at all.

[@maxk5038]

You should do a video on the Taurus 92 pls

[@JuarezDerrick]

Thats what i want

[@marclemar]

So I have a PT111 G2 before they dropped the PT111 and have wondered what’s the difference thanks for explaining that I can hold on to my money because there isn’t enough to warrant buying a G3C. Instead I’ll use that money for me a Canik.

[@awesomehayden99]

I like my g2 millennium, ive never had a problem with it.

[@TheMotorick]

I still have a PT945 and I'll never sell it. I just absolutely love that gun, but it's DA/SA hammer fired. Of course they discontinued it several years ago. Since then I've lost interest in Taurus, especially after discovering Beretta, CZ, and Sig.

[@weissrw1]

When the PT145 came out, it was unique: a 10 round 45 ACP sub-compact. That's something else! Especially if Biden limits us to ten rounds again. If we are limited to 10, go 45 ACP. Great video!!!

[@j.t.cooper2963]

I had 2 Millenium Pro's in .40 cal back in the day. They are long gone. I don't really miss them.

[@tomh.648]

I've got a Taurus 'sob story': I got a new G2 in 2016, & it took me just under 6k/rds to wear the (MIM?) disconnector to the point that it became unsafe. Since parts are rare, it'll probably go back to Taurus - where it'll stay for months on end. When it comes home, I'm going to test it, then sell it w/ full disclosure. I simply can't (won't) have a gun I can't work on and rely on to be more durable. Parts wear out, guns break...we all know this. To me, it makes far more sense to have a firearm that has good 1st and 3rd party support. To be simple to work on. To be inherantly durable, and most importantly: Reliable. For those reasons, I standardized on the Glock pistol about 10yrs ago. Glocks aren't flawless or 'perfection'. But they are proven go-to-war guns, and for the money, the best investment for me. I genuinely wanted my little Taurus G2 to shine and disprove the haters - and for almost 6k/rds, it was highly reliable. It had a very low occurrence of FTF/FTE malfs. Ultimately, I'm happy for those who "get a good one" w/ Taurus. I thought I had one, too. May you have better luck than me. BTW: Thanks, Hop! I always enjoy your vids, and often learn something new.

[@randomruss651]

I bought a millinium pro in 2004 wish I saved it I didn't know they would be short lived.

[@ammarchetta]

Thanks Hop!

[@tonyfall1169]

Hops the man!

[@drmachinewerke1]

The G3c if done by a qualified professional . It can be machined to accept a S&W .40 barrel. I know of one G3c in 40. And he uses a slightly modified G3c mag . He uses the same mags in both 40 and 9 as a range mag.

[@laurocesarexpeditoborbadea841]

Was the PT-24/7 G2C .45 a good weapon?

[@BOB-wx3fq]

I like the double strike capability Was running cheap Russian steel cased and "failures" would shot after another squeeze That said I dont own this gun anymore for said reason

[@xd45acpshooter]

I might be intetested in a 45acp g3c. Probably not the only one.

[@JustIn-op6oy]

I once shot a glock with a vertical line in the middle of the rear sight notch and a day glow dot on the top of the front sight blade that I much preferred to any figure 8 sights. In particular, acquiring the sight picture was much easier and faster. Does anyone have an explanation why such a small difference had such an outsized effect?

[@benjaminbrown4384]

Wait glock sights fit on a g3?

[@abcdaw22]

2 Ruger security 9 owners disliked this video

[@thepistolguy859]

The g3c is the best gun on the market at that price point.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

As of Feb 2021 Taurus is offering to replace with a GC3 seems like a good upgrade to me ..

[@dru7152]

What mags will the millenium pro take?

[@ngraves1002]

I carry a pt111-Millenium. Also have a pro. Today I just bout 2 G3c to replace them.

[@khanj42]

It would be a lot cooler if someone other than Lakeline LLC got into the aftermarket stuff. There have to be a ton of these guns out there.

[@radomguy9678]

Check out keeptinkering triggers, as well as Galloway precision. Truglo and Ameriglo make sights for it, too.

[@radomguy9678]

bloody wheels on Ebay makes mag sleeves, too. I forgot to mention that.

[@jimmellenberger8505]

ProMag, Mec-Gar have gotten into the mag game, G3C got into the Glock sights game, and I hear others are finally waking up to a Taurus wave.

[@christopherwg4236]

Gooseneck or crooked finger road?

[@rdone4932]

Just make sure you lock tight that front sight so it don't fall off

[@frankfranklin3365]

I got me a Taurus millennium pt111 years ago and accidentally shot my self in the left elbow. I was trying to protect my self from some homies that showed up at the gas station I worked at saying they were gonna clap my cheeks, after I shot my self in the elbow one of em shouted “when you ain’t got that gun we gon clap them cheeks, on God!!”

[@aeccesbts]

You missed the pt132 in 32acp

[@philcooper9225]

I want G3C in .40 S&W!

[@eliramos9533]

On November 10 used my new G3 at about 50 rounds the gun jammed the barrel stuck to the slide..sent to Taurus Nov 15,as of now they still have it,now 2 month waiting for parts,incredible the worst service. I also have a G2c 1000+ rounds and works great but Taurus service stinks , Eli

[@kellytolliver2390]

Sweet

[@valentinezehel54]

I just screamed in my car and happiness because I'm a hop fan no Homo I'm so glad this video dropped 2nd amendment baby America middle finger to the racists I'm a nineties baby not a millennial Shoutout out the millenniums And The Modern 2020 G3Cz 😎💣😎

[@battlechris8463]

Honestly, shooting at a bottle bouncing around gives you better experience than shooting at paper and probably allot cheaper.. js

[@sc7956]

when I clicked on this I genuinely mistook it for an Oxide video from the voice

[@homebrew29453]

I have a PT-145. worked well, until it didn't, now it's gathering dust in my safe no gun shop will touch it.

[@danialphaomega]

I had a titanium slide millennium I kick myself to this day for letting it go I knew it had to be rare

[@thepistolguy859]

I want .40 in the g3c

[@LittleliaExcision340]

Thank you 40cal 45mm, 50mm 9mm

[@randomruss651]

The g3c slide is a deal breaker for my I like the g2c slide they should had only charged the trigger.

[@wiledman2430]

I have a G1 millennium

[@BOB-wx3fq]

How did you forget to mention you could make the early ones full auto lol

[@floydblack7115]

Great reliable quality guns taurus g series better than those expensive guns that fools you.

[@RabidWolf1966]

G2, G2C, then G3.... Which you didn't list, then G3C.. Which would make it 7th generation

[@Hoplopfheil]

That's not how generations work.

[@theshocker4626]

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