Horizon Forbidden West HDR Settings - 4 Things Guerrilla Games Didn't Tell YOU

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@TomlinsonHolman52583
@TomlinsonHolman52583 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent you really should publish [Best HDR Settings] videos on all of the big games like this. Nobody does this better than you. Gamers all over the world will bring in the returns/ views to make it worth your effort.
@GameshinbunTV
@GameshinbunTV 2 жыл бұрын
So true!!
@phattjohnson
@phattjohnson 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised some big games still don't even support HDR - Dying Light 2 comes to mind. Fortunately in Windows 11 "Auto HDR" makes the scenes pop a bit more on my LG C8 OLED. Don't get me starting on Forza Horizon 5's "White taillights at night" too.. seems game devs rarely test HDR modes properly.
@karl343
@karl343 2 жыл бұрын
There is a channel that already does that called "Gaming Tech." Always has his videos up first day games release, he recommended the same settings as Vincent.
@TomlinsonHolman52583
@TomlinsonHolman52583 2 жыл бұрын
@@karl343 - With respect, Gaming Tech is not an ISF Level III Pro with access to elite calibration instruments and reference broadcast mastering monitors. There is no one on the Internet who possesses the skills, experience, equipment and wealth of penis jokes quite like Vincent Teoh.
@GamingTech-YouTube
@GamingTech-YouTube 2 жыл бұрын
@Hammer I agree but nevertheless I came up with the same Settings 😉. And I calibrated a lot of TV'S in my life, no worries. Just the equipment is missing right now but I am getting there.
@MiRcO_303
@MiRcO_303 2 жыл бұрын
So, -2 for brightness and -8 for highlights, with hgig enabled. Gotcha. Thanks a lot Vincent
@PlayStationHDR
@PlayStationHDR 2 жыл бұрын
Its gonna be good on qn95a too?
@TheAbdID
@TheAbdID 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlayStationHDR good question I think not since the qn95a have mich higher peak brightness of around 1500 while lgc1 has 750
@daokuful
@daokuful 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAbdID so i have a qn90a, brightness 0 and highlights -4 , would be good? If not can Someone Tell me a good setting in the game for this tv?
@VoiceBox24
@VoiceBox24 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlayStationHDR no. highlights should be closer to zero since the 95a gets a lot brighter
@StuggiSuzi
@StuggiSuzi 2 жыл бұрын
Missing a clear conclution, but yeah, seems right.....
@BigLukeyBoi
@BigLukeyBoi 2 жыл бұрын
Devs : “well done on the HDR brightness calibration boys” Vincent : “Say hello to my $30k reference monitor”
@darthmatoro
@darthmatoro 2 жыл бұрын
HDTVTest and Digital Foundry are the go-to youtubers when it comes to in-game settings and analysis.
@2Guys1ControllerShow
@2Guys1ControllerShow 2 жыл бұрын
ACG is my third in my TRIFECTA.
@sephie4
@sephie4 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, just Vincent 😌
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 2 жыл бұрын
@@sephie4 Nope, Vincent and Digital Foundry
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 2 жыл бұрын
@@sephie4 Vincent knows nothing about frame-rate and graphics though
@Cxs1a3
@Cxs1a3 2 жыл бұрын
DF doesn't cover display settings, This guy doesn't cover graphical settings, they have no crossover
@TrueComboKing
@TrueComboKing 2 жыл бұрын
Just subbed to this guy. Only person I’ve seen on KZbin, regarding picture quality, that actually seems to know his stuff and has the linguistic skills to back it up.
@JamesFuston
@JamesFuston 2 жыл бұрын
Brightness -2, Highlights -8, got it! This is brilliant, I've definitely noticed overblown highlights with the default settings on my C1 but didn't have the patience to tweak them to find a sweet spot. Thanks for all you do!
@007-v4r
@007-v4r 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah had the same problem with the first game, probably something with the engine using HDR
@davidc2072
@davidc2072 2 жыл бұрын
@@007-v4r omg yes. I had to stop playing it because it was so distracting. Every time I'd move the camera, the picture would be blown out
@hexrise3569
@hexrise3569 2 жыл бұрын
-1 -8 The same settings recommended by gaming tech .. those two guys are really professional, thumbs up.
@MrAirblade85
@MrAirblade85 2 жыл бұрын
with these settings, for example, the sun looks completely unrealistic. Or can you look at the sun with your naked eye in real life and see the planet at the same time?
@KagariTeru
@KagariTeru 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAirblade85 Personally i fiddeld around and came out with settings of, +2,-6,+6 which hdtv test would kill me for, but the sun is actually bright and shadows aproach that true black of my c1 oled. Also goes with what he himself did in the ps5 settings menu setting darks to minimum to get true black...
@tommysparks7145
@tommysparks7145 2 жыл бұрын
HGIG has been added in Patch 1.018 for Horizon Forbidden west. Could you please do a new calibration update for the in game settings for the LG C1 & G1 Evo Oled’s as the HDR settings are still able to be adjusted in game even though the PS5 should be now controlling the peak Brightness, many thanks in advance
@SmoggySandwich
@SmoggySandwich 2 жыл бұрын
Very annoying that it doesn't follow the PS5's system HDR settings. It's a Sony studio even, it couldn't have been that hard to talk internally to figure it out. On top of that their HDR adjustment in game is completely useless. You can't just look at a static image and adjust HDR like it was a gamma slider. Thanks for this in depth analysis, very helpful!
@TreasureHunterxp
@TreasureHunterxp 2 жыл бұрын
if even the studios sony does not use the HGIG it's nonsense
@stephenbak6154
@stephenbak6154 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because it's Gross gen. I'm just guessing and very well could be wrong
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbak6154 Doubtful. Both last and current gen support HDR and basically the same formats as well. This has something to do with how they programmed in the HDR support.
@JeskidoYT
@JeskidoYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skylancer727 probably the ps4 HDR bottlenecking the ps5 game
@zeokenx2
@zeokenx2 2 жыл бұрын
Which FURTHER proves its not a PS5 game LOL hard!! Wanna laugh at PS4 users some more now? =D No freaking way a PS5 game that suppose to be "next gen lolz" isnt gonna follow those HDR standards if it WAS a next gen game? Those settings would be out of the box if HFW was with FULL support,gtfo of here PS5 early birds.Just because you paid 7867678$ from scalpers for a dated system compared to PC doesnt mean you are entitled to ANYTHING.The only game I know for a FACT that is a PS5 game from the ground up right now is Pragmata (2023),why I know this? Because the devs already said that it CANNOT be made on the PS4 or ported to it."Capcom" a Japanese company making it btw.. Then Elden Ring all of a sudden has "performance issues" with "FRAMES",gee I wonder why? LMFAO It wouldnt be because,I dunno,ITS ALSO ON THE DAMN PS4 STILL?! Those that are living under a rock,the PS4s in Japan stop production already,the USA is STILL in production with PS4s and prices going up and is STILL making games with the PS5/PS4 attachment.When/if that stops is only when youll see PS5 games switch to the HDR standards of development and not sliders that do not work with the SSD speeds of these games. Hell theres MANY people that dont know the reason why PS4 users have texture pop ins is due to the fact that HDDs cannot keep up with games made after 2017 and just having an SSD for your PS4 gets rid of them.
@sunnyschramm9650
@sunnyschramm9650 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a guide to HDR on CYBERPUNK 2077. HDR "should" be something which you turn on and all is done. I hate that there is no norm/standard for the settings in the games - too much configuration, too much possibilities for wrong settings, etc.
@shreder75
@shreder75 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer when they give a white point and dark point box/ symbol to adjust. It's the multi tiered settings with no goal to compare it to that leaves too much up to chance unless you've got equipment like Vincent does
@Huda88754
@Huda88754 2 жыл бұрын
He done a video when it came out over 1 year ago
@Anviification
@Anviification 2 жыл бұрын
@@Huda88754 CDPR has since made changes to the HDR settings or implementation.
@Huda88754
@Huda88754 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anviification it’s still broken
@gazman111r
@gazman111r 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Cyberpunk on PS5 is all over the place. I’m not even sure a single set of settings would fix it!
@PursuedByAMemory
@PursuedByAMemory 2 жыл бұрын
HDR is such a massive pain in the ass for the final consumer. I just aim for neutral colours, bright highlights(not blinding) and dark but, visible dark areas.
@alfredaxelsson5765
@alfredaxelsson5765 2 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. Thank you for doing this! It's very interesting to see your analysis and breakdowns of the technical aspects of image quality.
@adamfinlay169
@adamfinlay169 2 жыл бұрын
Having just bought a new OLED and trying to get my head around HDR your channel has become so invaluable! Thank you! (I also appreciate your incredibly dry humour)
@SimSimma.
@SimSimma. 2 жыл бұрын
The channel Gaming Tech had exactly the same recommendations for the HDR settings. So I'm glad master Vincent confirmed this
@GamingTech-YouTube
@GamingTech-YouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning me 🙂
@fratergilles
@fratergilles 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamingTech-KZbin every time the best!!!
@amard1981
@amard1981 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamingTech-KZbin subbed, great video 👍🏽
@mmo5366
@mmo5366 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, been using Gaming Tech settings, great to see Vincent back them up
@spamaccount6460
@spamaccount6460 2 жыл бұрын
We really need a damn set of standards for HDR already. Will even 1% of PS5 owners see/understand all this to make the correct changes to settings? Of course not.
@eddyabdulajev1415
@eddyabdulajev1415 2 жыл бұрын
this is the biggest problem which is that hdr itself isn't a standard but just a bunch of very rough approximate guidelines that are often times debated and to a certain extent subject to interpretation. The whole thing is one big bad joke and most likely this way on purpose to confuse the average non technical consumer into buying a more expensive TV set them otherwise they would need.
@svenjurgens9245
@svenjurgens9245 2 жыл бұрын
I got it calibrated going back and forth (what works for my tv is -2, -5, -3) but see I might want to reduce the highlights a bit more. And while -5 for shadows works great during the day (in game), nights can get pretty dark. However the shimmering is giving me headaches, so I'm playing on an old 1080p projector now in SDR, max 50 nits brightness. (Cinema level). And it's gorgeous on that, no eye strain reading the small fonts either at 92" screen. Much less shimmering down sampled to 1080p. 4K HDR, it's a mess. I had to set data transfer rate to -2 as well since the screen kept randomly blacking out, HDMI not keeping up. 2160p60 4:2:0 is max that it can handle without drops. My projector is 4:4:4 RGB 1080p, same color resolution as 2160p 4:2:0, but much less contrast, no headaches. It has a waveform analysis pop up build in as well, so much easier to calibrate it that way. On the TV it remains guess work :/
@michi9955
@michi9955 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I mean there are solutions like Dolby Vision or even the PS5 HDR calibration. They just need to agree on something
@eddyabdulajev1415
@eddyabdulajev1415 2 жыл бұрын
@@michi9955 How can they when even Sony's owned 1st party studio gurella games doesn't use it. Sony need to be the one's who enforce for their platform otherwise this will keep happening for other games and studios too.
@pipgoesthepossum
@pipgoesthepossum 2 жыл бұрын
Part of the problem is devs not using them.
@benstephens187
@benstephens187 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent, would love a video like this examining Cyberpunk 2077 HDR calibration. It's always seemed somewhat... Off? In their 1.5 patch, the notes suggested they made “HDR more consistent across all platforms." Would love a video examining proper HDR calibration for that game
@AlecRozsa
@AlecRozsa 2 жыл бұрын
As far as i'm aware cyberpunk has never supported true HDR, it is better to be left off
@Gordz91
@Gordz91 2 жыл бұрын
You're the goat Vincent. Bought a LG CX in 2020 after watching your videos.. these developers still can't manage to sort their HDR out on next generation consoles so I'm still relying on you for accurate information. Many thanks
@Mourad_Hall
@Mourad_Hall 2 жыл бұрын
When I bought my oled tv and my Ps5 and Series X, I listened to his advice with intentions. And I quit for a while. You have to change everything all the time, HGIG activated, after it is deactivated, after that you have to change it to put it back on the next game. Frankly I leave in DTM and I adjust according to my tastes, it takes 2 minutes per game and it's very good like that
@GBMatthew07
@GBMatthew07 2 жыл бұрын
HDR has become a nightmare on these consoles until it becomes standardised it will just continue to be a mess.
@Jza-GZa40k
@Jza-GZa40k 2 жыл бұрын
Like Hdr Tvs,They haven’t matured
@Lasse3
@Lasse3 2 жыл бұрын
The worst thing is, they aren't even trying... They're handed a solution, like the HGIG console level HDR adjustments, allowing us to set Peak-brightness, Max tonemap luminanse, and minimum luminanse. This is all we need to perfectly calibrate our TV, and have the console work it's magic. But of the 60 games I have installed on my PS5, only a very few games utilize the PS5 HDR adjustment. The rest (those with in-game hdr settings) simply bypass what you have calibrated in the HGIG HDR calibration. And you're left with sub-par in-game stupid hdr setup, that mostly can't be calibrated to a satisfying level.
@Revyooerr
@Revyooerr 2 жыл бұрын
For the Sony x900H, what would be the recommending settings?
@alecardenas1389
@alecardenas1389 2 жыл бұрын
What about the settings for x900h?
@JttM199
@JttM199 2 жыл бұрын
This. Would like to know the best settings
@spiltcoff33
@spiltcoff33 2 жыл бұрын
honestly
@ErrickJackson
@ErrickJackson 2 жыл бұрын
Measuring in-game HDR performance on a proper mastering monitor is precisely the kinda of meticulousness I come to this channel for.
@GamingTech-YouTube
@GamingTech-YouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming that 😎
@buckles4
@buckles4 2 жыл бұрын
I really miss those times when we would only start the game and enjoy it right away instead of having to fiddle with performance and calibration settings depending on the game and TV we are using.
@oopstemp
@oopstemp 2 жыл бұрын
wtf that's stupid
@MUSIC3787
@MUSIC3787 2 жыл бұрын
you can still do it easy play SDR xd
@shreder75
@shreder75 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vincent! They also said 1.05 would fix the oversharpening, but the picture still looks noisy as heck in perf mode to me.. All the new tech in these consoles is great, but having to constantly fiddle with tv settings to get them to look their best on a game by game basis is getting tiring.
@TheMrpeace360
@TheMrpeace360 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap But better than before
@raknikmik
@raknikmik 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrpeace360 Oversharpening was an issue with HDR most noticeable in quality mode. Shimmering and aliasing is the issue with performance mode and is still being looked at since it’s mentioned in the known issues.
@shreder75
@shreder75 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrpeace360 maybe, but it's still pretty bad. They should talk to insomniac for their temporal upsampling techniques. Their game look sharp as tacks
@shreder75
@shreder75 2 жыл бұрын
@raknikmik i saw mention of a patch 1.07 that's supposed to address the shimmering issue. Can't say how reliable the source is though
@KTMGUNNER
@KTMGUNNER 2 жыл бұрын
Thought it was just me
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 2 жыл бұрын
I was blown away how your settings improve this amazing game. It's so much better now! Thank you, Vincent.
@AP-hn8wd
@AP-hn8wd 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Vincent!! Will you cover Elden Ring next? It’s one of the best reviewed games of all time, but with a performance controversy that is the talk of the town now.
@jayroman3384
@jayroman3384 2 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing mysterious about it at all. FromSoft has never been able to hit a consistent 60fps lock. That’s it. Performance mode gets you closest but can still go down to the 40s. It’s not a controversy just people like to complain about everything.
@UserInterface00
@UserInterface00 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayroman3384 to be fair to OP, I’m sure he was referring to the statement Bandai Namco recently posted about performance issues (not specifically to frame rate) but they Bandai Namco/FromSoftware stated themselves in the most recent update mentioned not too long ago after its release. Personally, I’ve played Bloodborne and it’s DLC not knowing frame rate issues. Even so now, so it doesn’t bother me.
@gigolocalypsetv5520
@gigolocalypsetv5520 2 жыл бұрын
Curious of what a good setting would be for the A90J, and wonder if you HDR calibration method has any effects on this game, and then which sliders to tinker with
@Roboto82
@Roboto82 2 жыл бұрын
This. For example, what should HDR Tone Mapping be set to on the Sony? Gradation Preferred, or Off?
@DemonicLoki
@DemonicLoki 2 жыл бұрын
@@Roboto82 i have X90J and I find it looks better off Look at the sun turn your tone mapping setting on and change between the 2 will be the best way to know what you prefer I found with it on it made the sun less bright I'm using the -2 brightness and -6 highlights setting and the game looks almost perfect now
@TRUMP_2024_PREZ
@TRUMP_2024_PREZ 2 жыл бұрын
83" A90J AND FW = PARADISE
@pogtuber5146
@pogtuber5146 2 жыл бұрын
Just turn on Dynamic Tone Mapping and forget trying to find the best picture because it's impossible.
@TRUMP_2024_PREZ
@TRUMP_2024_PREZ 2 жыл бұрын
TURN ON...COLOR SPACE...ADOBE RGB...WOW HUGE DIFFERENT
@tulegaming415
@tulegaming415 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing for the Sony X900H?
@Deathclaw2277
@Deathclaw2277 Жыл бұрын
Is this video still valid with recent updates to the game? And would these settings still be applicable to an LED display? I'm using the Sony X90J.
@mrchiledonut
@mrchiledonut Жыл бұрын
No, they're not valid as the game uses the PS5 system calibrations settings now. All you change now is the highlight settings. You want to go to 5 or above.
@Deathclaw2277
@Deathclaw2277 Жыл бұрын
@@mrchiledonut Thanks for the input!
@dead7781
@dead7781 2 жыл бұрын
Please inform on what settings one should have form QLED!!! I have a Q95T and my eyes hurt after playing the game for just a short time! I have calibrated the TV using your video on samsung QLEDs but I have no idea what to do with the settings in the game! Plese help!!!!
@abellau4105
@abellau4105 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of ironic Vincent’s videos aren’t mastered in HDR. 😜 I kid. Love his content and honesty.
@bettydougherty7392
@bettydougherty7392 2 жыл бұрын
As a lot of people have said at this point, I'd also love to see these videos for every big release. I love the comfort of being told, "these are the best HDR settings for ___". If you could do an Elden Ring one that would be amazing, also Digital Foundry are fantastic but don't dive into HDR in such detail.
@thepiratepeteshow2684
@thepiratepeteshow2684 2 жыл бұрын
The day I got this game, every day I keep playing around with brightness and shadow. Thanks for sharing
@emmanuelguerrero3071
@emmanuelguerrero3071 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vincent! Please keep covering these big releases! You are doing valuable work and providing rare information to fans all over the world. Thank you 🙏
@TheUlisseys
@TheUlisseys 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much ive been trying to get the right setting for a while now!! love the content and cannot wait for more!
@franzz6578
@franzz6578 2 жыл бұрын
Sony just released a new update for the xh90 ... Firmware v6.1576 ... it shall fix the VRR compabilty... would love to see a test on your channel
@kenwong936
@kenwong936 2 жыл бұрын
Is it the same recommendations for the TCL R635? I seem to have an issue getting the HDR right.
@Gilbertsens
@Gilbertsens 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I need this for the next god of war, was never able to properly tune the HDR in the first one and found myself constantly changing it back and forth
@jeppester
@jeppester 2 жыл бұрын
My TV (LG B8) does not have HGIG. I wonder if I should increase the highlights to mitigate the rolloff, but otherwise use the same settings.
@linuxfreakz
@linuxfreakz 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any new changes on HDR after the update?
@harryward9625
@harryward9625 2 жыл бұрын
You promised this video, an you've delivered, thank you for the great content! 👍
@SANDWlCH369
@SANDWlCH369 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! As others have stated, you should absolutely consider doing more HDR gameplay videos. Gaming industry is huge, I believe your channel can reach higher highs. Love you sense of humor!
@tayjn
@tayjn 2 жыл бұрын
The game just added actual HGIG support so this video could use an update
@stephenpatterson8056
@stephenpatterson8056 2 жыл бұрын
This type of video is nice and all, it'll send me in the right direction. But it would be even BETTER to not assume that EVERYONE has an OLED and go over which settings to use for those of us with higher brightness displays. With that monitor it would obviously be easy enough to be like "Use these settings for a 700 nit OLED, and use these settings for a 1,500 nit LCD."
@SonGokuuuuuuu
@SonGokuuuuuuu 2 жыл бұрын
Then find another video of a guy covering non OLED? Vincent already puts in a lot of work, he covers true next generation gaming experiences, that’s what the content is tailored for and it makes sense. He doesn’t have to assume anything, it’s just that you aren’t his priority. KZbin is endless, you stumbled on a video that isn’t what you’re looking for so move onto the next. The last thing this wholesome channel needs is entitled whiners like you in the comments.
@ammaralmihyawi3538
@ammaralmihyawi3538 2 жыл бұрын
Here is the summary ;) HDR Settings in the game: Brightness: -2 Highlights: -8
@Liranpe94
@Liranpe94 2 жыл бұрын
Is it settings for performance mode or resolution mode?
@richcity804dovii
@richcity804dovii 2 жыл бұрын
What about the Sony x90j settings you forgot to do an update on it when you said you were bro and the vrr is not on it yet
@xnapegox
@xnapegox 2 жыл бұрын
With 1.18 patch I have seen this settings for TVs using DTM: 0/0/+10 What's your opinion Teoh? Maybe you could do an update of the settings for this game. Thank you!
@lightzzz_lightzzz_6645
@lightzzz_lightzzz_6645 2 жыл бұрын
Gaming Tech Channel already gave us this information. But its still nice that Vincent came to the same conclusions.
@whitewolf1054
@whitewolf1054 Ай бұрын
Gaming tech sayd Highlights 10+😂
@pjxmr18
@pjxmr18 2 жыл бұрын
I need one of these videos for Destiny 2’s new HDR update.
@nicolagiampellegrini3411
@nicolagiampellegrini3411 2 жыл бұрын
Destiny HDR Is broken
@steveg8337
@steveg8337 2 жыл бұрын
My best hdr settings on my Sony Bravia is what my eyes see not what some fancy machine sees.
@thegrimyeaper
@thegrimyeaper 2 жыл бұрын
I remember sliding in the Super Mario cartridge and pushing the power button. That was all I needed to be happy.
@b0nz1official
@b0nz1official 2 жыл бұрын
You can still do that and be happy. This is a hobby for enthusiasts who spend a lot of money on their TVs and time to get the most out of it to enjoy the best HDR content possible. If you don't care about this stuff, just skip it.
@thegrimyeaper
@thegrimyeaper 2 жыл бұрын
@@b0nz1official What I meant is that I now am an enthusiast who spent a lot of money on a TV and need to know all this to be happy.
@shreder75
@shreder75 2 жыл бұрын
@b0nz1official I wouldn't say that necessarily. It doesn't take an enthusiast to notice when something is blown out, crushed, or doesn't look quite right
@wingman-1977
@wingman-1977 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and now you almost need to be a professional calibrator to play a damn game. I’m so glad I got out of gaming.
@b0nz1official
@b0nz1official 2 жыл бұрын
@@wingman-1977 Bullshit. You don't NEED to do any of this. You are taking advice from a professional calibrator that explains this stuff for you. If it wasn't for Vincent you wouldn't even know.
@WhiteWolfTechGaming
@WhiteWolfTechGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if Vincent has made videos over HDR on Windows 10/11. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of content touching over that. And I don't mean covering HDR monitors, but still using TV's like his LG and showing HDR on there. I'm currently using a Samsung Q80R TV to play some PC games in HDR and I noticed some games look different on PC and console regarding HDR.
@EricPinho
@EricPinho 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you. I noticed harsh overblown highlights as well( even producing eye strain/headache). I had brightness at -3 and highlights -3, originally. It still seems to bright/harsh I’ll try these out!
@robert_minarik
@robert_minarik 2 жыл бұрын
hi Vincent, anything to consider for a sony AF9 with DTM always on? many thanks
@figi-1
@figi-1 2 жыл бұрын
What is the HDR setup for SONY A90J?
@dickwennekendonk4605
@dickwennekendonk4605 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Turning sharpness off on my lg oled c9 made the picture more clear. I also have a sony vpl-vw270es protector wich also has a sharpness setting. Does this advice also apply to projectors all well ?
@nicolagiampellegrini3411
@nicolagiampellegrini3411 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent, wich mode do you think Is Better , 30 or 60 FPS ( resolution vs performance)?
@soulscape5083
@soulscape5083 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you man, I think every major game developer must consult to you before releasing their game.
@chriseldur4265
@chriseldur4265 2 жыл бұрын
Thumps up from Germany!!! Best Channel for Settings!!!
@kazechan1o1
@kazechan1o1 2 жыл бұрын
I found you when I bought lg c1 and you have been great since!
@AndyGilleand
@AndyGilleand 2 жыл бұрын
The calibration screen is not intended to specify exact black or white levels. It's used more like a color grading filter, where it's about the overall look and contrast of the shadows and highlights. The game is not designed to conform to your TV's exact limitations like HGIG. Setting peak highlight to match your tv will considerably reduce contrast, and not look natural. I'm currently using Brightness -2, Shadows -4, and Highlights 0. This results in a very natural looking image, with pretty much no visible highlight clipping in typical gameplay. I'm sure if I measured it, there's stuff being clipped, but there's nothing visible to the human eye. Adjusting to try to minimize absolute clip will not always be the best approach for ideal image quality, if it reduces highlights to an unnaturally dim level. Default shadow settings also leave the image too flat, with not enough contrast, and shadows that are a bit too washed out..
@roncarder89
@roncarder89 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I think your right on this. I've been using -4, -2, 1. Lowering the highlights below 0 makes things take on a dull haziness. There's something off with this though. Vincent's measurements have to be right though. I'm using hgig on lg cx and I'm not seeing a lot of clipping or at least to where its degrading the picture. It must be a really small minute part of the picture that's clipping
@AndyGilleand
@AndyGilleand 2 жыл бұрын
@@roncarder89 Exactly. I'm sure 99% of what's clipping is just in the sun, and that's perfectly okay as long as you're still seeing a clear difference between the sky/clouds and the sun. It's more important that the general luminance of the highlights overall looks like it has realistic levels of brightness and contrast to it, and that the gradient from deep and dark shadows to the midtones feels like a natural level of contrast. It's important to note that brightness does affect both shadows and highlights as well, so it's important to go back and forth and adjust them to where it feels most natural to your eyes. I have some HDR color grading experience, as well as HDR calibration experience, and I've seen a ton of HDR content, so I tend to have a good feel for what looks correct, and what doesn't. I don't feel that Vincent's settings will be utilizing the dynamic range all that well, and won't deliver the most natural looking image either. I do think the game could benefit from using the HGIG menus in addition to the menus they already have for full control over every aspect of the image (5 points: black level, shadows, midtones, highlights, and peak nits), but I honestly feel that doing that wouldn't make a HUGE difference in overall image dynamics compared to what we have now.
@BPipkins
@BPipkins 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the insight, Andy. Posts like yours just remind me of how poorly implemented HDR and HDR adjustment screens are in video games. There really needs to be some type of standard practice within the industry in regards to how it’s implemented, because it really is all over the map.
@AndyGilleand
@AndyGilleand 2 жыл бұрын
@@BPipkins unfortunately, it's not really realistic to have a perfect standard, because color grading has enough subjective nature to it that people don't always agree with what the user would need to control. I actually like controls like these where it isn't just about the specs of the tv, but more about the look of the actual image.
@jayberan
@jayberan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vincent! Taking my time and enjoying the game, always appreciate your knowledge to improve the visuals!
@manpreetbains5566
@manpreetbains5566 Жыл бұрын
Are these settings still good in March 2023 after all the patches the developer may have applied to the game?
@rossa360
@rossa360 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Vincent! People like you help a lot much appreciated! Wish it just had dolby vision on ps5!
@CaptJackSwallows
@CaptJackSwallows Ай бұрын
Is there a pc version of this off the oled c1 which am struggling with 😅
@remic2902
@remic2902 10 ай бұрын
So much knowledge. So much generous sharing. Thank you… so much.
@gm6293
@gm6293 2 жыл бұрын
Hello . Sorry I am a bit confused... so what are the best in game hdr settings in resolution mode ?
@phoenixkai9862
@phoenixkai9862 2 жыл бұрын
What about the X900H? Same thing?
@JttM199
@JttM199 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering that as well
@bretttarr5751
@bretttarr5751 2 жыл бұрын
Used these settings on my Sony XH90 and the game looks much better.
@eeeeyuke
@eeeeyuke 2 жыл бұрын
Any news on VRR or Dolby Vision adjustments from 343 Industries in regards to Halo Infinite?
@NecroMoz
@NecroMoz 2 жыл бұрын
DV is fixed in latest patch, back to approx 1000nits
@eeeeyuke
@eeeeyuke 2 жыл бұрын
@@NecroMoz vrr still stroking, though, correct?
@DoABarrilRoll
@DoABarrilRoll 2 жыл бұрын
why is a first party studio not using console level HDR Settings, i dont get it
@cured_bacon647
@cured_bacon647 2 жыл бұрын
Because it was also made on ps4 which doesn’t have hgig. HGiG was also made to try to push the industry to a standard which may or may not catch on.
@VLADABEAST
@VLADABEAST 2 жыл бұрын
What settings would you recommend for a QN90A?
@SpaceTraveler99
@SpaceTraveler99 2 жыл бұрын
I did not get the conclusions of this video... Which settings should I adjust?
@LJ-uy9ru
@LJ-uy9ru 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. When I first started the game and started messing with settings.. I had hgig.. - 2 Brightness and - 3 highlights. But I've been using DTM off - 1 brightness and + 6 highlights and I think I like that better. Either way the game looks really good and I'm off to try Vincent's settings. ✌🏻
@insomnialife2
@insomnialife2 2 жыл бұрын
Is this review for a regular HDMI 2.1 cable? My Fiber optic HDMI 2.1 doesn't have these issues
@sweedishpie360
@sweedishpie360 2 жыл бұрын
Using +2, -8 and 0 on my c1 OLED. However I play it more my q90t qled. The hdr impact is just on another level on the qled. Like whenever I go from the OLED to qled, I'm gobsmacked on how better it looks on the qled. OLED has its moments though where it looks better
@manuel0578
@manuel0578 2 жыл бұрын
Meh, I just can’t deal with FALD halo effect.
@sweedishpie360
@sweedishpie360 2 жыл бұрын
@@manuel0578 fun fact, look it up. Even on an OLED, even though there is no blooming, our eyes make it look like there is. I see it a lot on my OLED. Mainly just during loading screens where everything is black and you have a white symbol. Same can be said with a qled. Blooming is only visible in that same screen. Once you play regular content, you don't notice it at all
@helloguy8934
@helloguy8934 2 жыл бұрын
@@sweedishpie360 Turn off the lights.
@cajun_canuck
@cajun_canuck 2 жыл бұрын
Love the technical breakdown and seeing how you diagnose this. Fascinating.
@PlayStationHDR
@PlayStationHDR 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent! I own samsung qn95a and still don't know how tu setup sliders in this game.
@user-if1mr7yj9d
@user-if1mr7yj9d 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, to clean the TV, what should we do? Wipe with a dry cloth or spray so that the panel is not damaged, and clean it every once in a while for dust
@HelloSnake
@HelloSnake 2 жыл бұрын
Dry lint free cloth, or apply distilled water to a lint free cloth. Don't spray anything onto the screen.
@daviddevito1904
@daviddevito1904 Жыл бұрын
Hi what is the best hdr setting for hfw with oled c2 ?
@IREWolfman
@IREWolfman 2 жыл бұрын
Can you check the new HDR settings on Destiny 2?
@lucasbianchi167
@lucasbianchi167 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent makes a video teaching how to calibrate the rdr2 with the hdr enabled on the lg c1 oled to get the best possible image.
@Rellik52o
@Rellik52o 2 жыл бұрын
What hardware or software were you using in this video??
@MrAirblade85
@MrAirblade85 2 жыл бұрын
CX@HGIG So with the -2 and -8 settings e.g. the sun looks completely unrealistic. In real life, you can't look at the sun or see the planet itself with your naked eye. is that really how it should be?
@welsh-cymru1588
@welsh-cymru1588 2 жыл бұрын
Put the highlights up maybe to -5
@jubeijimbo3062
@jubeijimbo3062 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent...please please let us know if the new vrr update for x900h is working!!!
@DanthaManYO
@DanthaManYO 2 жыл бұрын
Any good settings for LG c9? Can't believe they did cut corners on hdr calibration screens.
@ryanrose4519
@ryanrose4519 2 жыл бұрын
What should I adjust the sliders to for a 2018 Samsung Q6F?
@harisseverino3966
@harisseverino3966 2 жыл бұрын
Would I need to do this on older Samsung tvs with no hgig settings?
@sayithowitis470
@sayithowitis470 2 жыл бұрын
I have the new LG OLED tv ...what settings would you say are best for performance mode please? I appreciate your help
@ertai222
@ertai222 2 жыл бұрын
What settings for Sony x900e?
@zorglubz1606
@zorglubz1606 2 жыл бұрын
I use -2,0,-6 for my x900, works very well
@parminderjaura5642
@parminderjaura5642 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that we can get a video like this for destiny 2? After the recent update the HDR settings were changed completely and makes no sense.
@BaderStellar
@BaderStellar 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a new video on Cyberpunk’s 2077 new patch 1.5. They say they adjusted the HDR. Is it really fixed now and what new settings do you recommend for the new patch?
@hsapin
@hsapin 2 жыл бұрын
Could you inspect Elden Ring's HDR as well?
@freakyfrizzy7590
@freakyfrizzy7590 2 жыл бұрын
I have a LG 65“ G1…should I use the same settings? I think G1 is a little bit brighter than C1?
@ArgonautGR11
@ArgonautGR11 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Any chance you could make a video about the ghosting around Aloy’s face during conversations on LG OLEDs?
@BloopsnBleeps
@BloopsnBleeps 2 жыл бұрын
What works you suggest with the Sony a80j since there is no hgig setting?
@stevenrodriguez9655
@stevenrodriguez9655 2 жыл бұрын
Following for A90J assuming they will be same settings since pretty damn similar TV
@BloopsnBleeps
@BloopsnBleeps 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenrodriguez9655 processing can be completely different even if LG makes all the damn panels
@stevenrodriguez9655
@stevenrodriguez9655 2 жыл бұрын
@@BloopsnBleeps I know they both have the XR processor but it could be different yes
@BloopsnBleeps
@BloopsnBleeps 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenrodriguez9655 LG does not have the xr processor.
@stevenrodriguez9655
@stevenrodriguez9655 2 жыл бұрын
@@BloopsnBleeps Who said anything about LG?
@justinsugay1149
@justinsugay1149 2 жыл бұрын
I assume you recommend this adjustment for OLEDs. What about for say the QN90A which can hit 1800 nits? I guess I can just play with the settings but I don't have your cannon monitor or your expertise sir.
@sweedishpie360
@sweedishpie360 2 жыл бұрын
I something like +2, -6, and 0. Sometimes brightness at 0. This game shines and looks better on a qled
@jordansunderman5348
@jordansunderman5348 2 жыл бұрын
What settings should I use for the vizio oled for this game?
@CODZokyCRO
@CODZokyCRO 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do the same for latest destiny 2 hdr patch? I am struggling to get a good setup on G1 with it now...
@hallobal67
@hallobal67 2 жыл бұрын
Do these settings also apply for the new update 1.15?
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