Hot Headed Meat Eater SNAPS at Vegan (Fiery Debate)

[@JoeyCarbstrong]

Man, that got crazy. Did you watch till the end? *If I helped influence you to be vegan, please leave a comment below.* Support my work here: www.joeycarbstrong.com/supportourwork 🌱 For free help going vegan 👉🏻 Start here: bit.ly/JoeyVegan22

[@tarionp]

👏👏👏

[@tashaax1993xanimalloverx]

Your videos changed me aligned my actions with my morals glad I came across these videos it made me become an activist myself

[@roku3216]

Your approach helped me confirm that veganism was indeed for me.

[@susanb9400]

Hi Joey. You influenced me to become vegan almost 3 years ago, and I joined challenge 22 through your link. Keep up the good work. ❤

[@distermaer]

You didn't change me because I had changed before I knew you (I think we've been vegan for about the same years), but you'd obviously change my mind if I met you before I changed. Keep doing what you're doing Joey, keep strong! ❤

[@matt4735]

I was already vegan when I started watching you, but you're one of the biggest reasons I became an activist. Thank you Joey

[@speedingatheist]

I don't care that you're vegan. Just don't stand in the road like a suicidal muppet.

[@tttyn2237]

Yeah you should also stop using everything that made of out woods. Its killing the environment . I guarantee you that you dont give a sh*t.

[@edwardsedwards796]

Why I can't see the two comments?

[@TheMrmatthewparker]

@@edwardsedwards796 they were probably full of expletives from narrow-minded meat-eaters offended that their selfish way of life is threatened

[@edwardsedwards796]

@@TheMrmatthewparker Sorry, I m with the meat eaters. That's why I wanted to see all the comments.

[@TiagoSalemaG]

Did I hear correctly that she hates vegans because vegans say facts? Wtf

[@justanotherguy12]

She calls you extreme because she’s got an extremely guilty conscience. Her saying your aggressiveness doesn’t work is a sign of extreme self-preservation and deflection at its finest. Classic guilty carnist

[@Trolloftruth]

No

[@redbriarn6295]

When he tried to speak over her , she deflected the barrage of criticism by insisting her stance on global food security

[@perihelion7445]

Delivery, tone and interjection play a part, the extreme part comes from that, she is smiling and jovial and Joey at times is the opposite, I'm not saying that Joey is an extremist, he's not, but he is a bit extreme at times. And your argument is from a position of moral authority, she's just critiquing while you call it deflection and guilt.

[@justanotherguy12]

@@perihelion7445 upload a video on to do it “correctly” would love to learn from you

[@perihelion7445]

@@justanotherguy12 The onus isn't on me to change their method of debate, it's on the person putting forth the initial debate. One can critique said person and that person either takes that constructive criticism onboard or they do not.

[@tinyjungle_]

This woman clearly was arguing in bad faith and deserves a gold medal for projection. Every time you made a valid logically consistent point she called you an extremist. Anyone who defends the defenseless and clearly and logically points out why you shouldn't be harming the defenseless is an extremist. Got it!

[@evilsbrother8247]

What valid logical points had joey made?

[@someguy2135]

Abolitionists were considered extreme, but they were right! Reducing slavery, or treating slaves a little better can not be ethically justified, and neither can paying people to needlessly kill innocent, sentient beings for a brief taste pleasure.

[@evilsbrother8247]

@@someguy2135 food is so much more than just 'a BriEf taSTe pLeaSurE' what a simpletons way of thinking about food. 'Abolitionists' are people who spoke out specifically against human slavery. Sheep and chickens arent humans and they arent slaves. Unless of course you refuse to distinguish between your own family and a pack of rats. Joey and Co are cancel cult. They tried to ban bikinis, they failed. Then it was rocknroll, another fail. Certain books... Guess what happened.. yup, failed again. Now its animal ag. What are the odds they will succeed? Not great at all my friend, not great at all. And fun fact... there are more slaves in the world now than there has ever been. Cope.

[@tinyjungle_]

@@evilsbrother8247 as your big brother I could hold your hand and guide you. But as your much wiser, more intelligent and much better looking big brother I see more value in you figuring some things out for yourself.

[@evilsbrother8247]

@@tinyjungle_ i reckon youre just a fkwit.

[@simonnaylor3536]

My wife and I are both vegan because of Joey. Wish we had heard his message sooner. We were never offered or called him aggressive. What happens to animals is extreme and aggressive. There is no need or justification for eating animals.

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

.. apart from nutrition. I almost "went vegan" (Mar '19) but did a little, basic research & went from WF very low animal/plant ratio to WF moderate animal/plant ratio. Much greater sense of well-being resulted. Unlike you, I must be an omnivore!🤔

[@x-latetv-x6816]

@@Unmasking_Viandalisme same omnivore diet suits me better, eating plants all day upsets my stomach

[@absolutezeromusicofficial]

@@Unmasking_Viandalisme Okay well your anecdote doesn't debunk the American Dietetic Association's conclusion that plant-based diets are suitable for all stages of life

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

@@absolutezeromusicofficial That conclusion is from the 2016 Position Paper (veg. diets), which expired on 31st Dec 2021. Officially, they currently haven't an opinion & it never stated that such was suitable for EVERYONE for all stages of life. Furthermore, unavoidable supplementation renders a "vegan" diet deficient.

[@LiverpoolxC]

@@Unmasking_Viandalisme The shock when you find out that 67% of the US population takes supplements (lower band estimate) and 92% of Americans have AT LEAST 1 nutrient deficiency. Why the hell are upwards of 80% of Americans taking supplements if their diet of meat & dairy is so complete?! Vegans tend to be a lot healthier than your typical American or European, as shown in numerous studies comparing diets & life expectancy. Funnily enough diets full of saturated fat and animal cholesterol tend to result in numerous health issues at later stages in life.

[@angelatillman4323]

I am vegan because of YOU! Thank you

[@bradley3140]

You and Gary’s blunt upfront truths about what I paid for made me vegan 4 years ago. Thank you and keep doing what you’re doing.

[@jesuismanu]

Same!

[@crazyferretlady]

I was raised to believe eating meat was necessary and right (b. 1955) but in 2013 I went vegan overnight after watching Earthlings, Conspiracy and Gary Yourofski's Great speech. Never looked back and cried for weeks thinking of all the animals that died to feed me..

[@loumason6120]

@@crazyferretlady WOW that's awesome you just inspired me to do the same

[@crazyferretlady]

@@loumason6120 If you're honest about that, I'm happy for you.. 👍

[@samanthasanchez5125]

She’s so uncomfortable she turns to joking 🙃 good job Joey - almost four years vegan 🌱

[@redbriarn6295]

I’m sorry to inform you that you don’t represent the majority of the people who are affected by agricultural products

[@Julie31596]

@@redbriarn6295 I don't understand?

[@redbriarn6295]

@@Julie31596 because you are not interested in understanding the global food security

[@Stevelives13]

Yes very bizarre whooping and cheering whenever she gets owned on a point.

[@Empathy4Animals411]

"Uncomfortable"? Or psychotic?

[@Decultified]

Watching Joey turned me vegan 6 years ago and I have never felt better.

[@andrewhenderson7858]

You feel good because you're eating your own body fat and cells, it gives a euphoric and high feeling. Vegans tend to quit when the body starts eating the organs. It was one woman who's gotten to her brain and she fed her baby weeds from the backyard in the form of a smoothie.

[@gerardojaviergonzalezbrena5801]

Yeah but you were never in hers shoes. You saw him attack others, not you. BTW, i like much more how he is aproaching it now, before he was violent, im happy for him

[@hinx8288]

5 years ago I came across your channel Joey and have been vegan ever since in fact my whole family of 7 went vegan. We thank you for your dedication to the animals Joey and keep fighting.

[@tarionp]

That was sooo intense. You composed yourself amazingly. The poor animals, I hope others have more compassion for them than she did ☹️ good job joeyyy!🙏♥️

[@distermaer]

She's a good example of someone that uses words without any understanding of what they mean, making them just empty words when they come out of her mouth.

[@skyjackmorgan]

100% correct

[@CarlosAugustoScalassaraPrando]

Ela é um exemplo do que é ser imoral.

[@evilsotherbrother7481]

Like when vEgAnS use words such as murder, abuse, holocaust, slavery, morals and torture?

[@CarlosAugustoScalassaraPrando]

@@evilsotherbrother7481 And amazingly is ALL correct, you immoral murderer.

[@robinjames7967]

Narcissism in todays society is pervasive

[@karenjones3501]

Joey you are not extreme or aggressive, you are passionate 💚

[@ipconfigearth102]

💚

[@bhaveshsharma510]

+1

[@soundstormdubai]

Thank you Joey for the thousands of humans you helped becoming Vegan 🌱

[@LiverpoolxC]

I became vegan because of your content Joey... mostly by watching the way animals are treated in factory farms, how these animals are innocent and educating myself about the processes in animal agriculture. And of course, realising that being vegan is healthy, sustainable, delicious and easy.

[@36ELRIC]

@@corbinm9874 He just said he educated himself. The industry stinks

[@Infanateknowledge]

You turned me vegan overnight joey, once i saw what i was doing, i changed.

[@Infanateknowledge]

@@rondarkman. thats a really clever comment, well done.

[@Infanateknowledge]

@@rondarkman. no need to thank me, thank the heart disease you will probably die from.

[@allbutterflapjack]

Thank you Joey, for the record you were a huge part in my journey to veganism… just in case she is checking the comments!

[@gustavdestroyer5539]

This was probably one of the most painful ones to watch, pure ignorance, not even a glimpse of willingness to have an honest debate

[@ricthe-v7462]

100% agree

[@Brotkanzler]

I'm so with you, I can't fully watch it, unfortunately. what a horrible woman.

[@gustavdestroyer5539]

Her f*cking smile also the whole time

[@VerdantJedi]

It's not just ignorance, it's cognitive dissonance...

[@carolyncarnahan960]

@@Brotkanzler please answer this with a response: exactly how is the woman in the above video horrible?

[@py16667]

You said it, no matter how “aggressive” or polite you are, in the end, she couldn’t care less about animal cruelty. You’re preaching compassion & the person defending murder who keeps cutting you off thinks you’re “aggressive” lol. The most cognitive dissonant are the most blind to their own insane beliefs

[@tornelysian]

You said it alot more polite and succinct than I was going to say. Thankyou. THIS ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ and unfortunately this kind of human is billions strong 😔

[@jayz8839]

And your type of human is 1000’s weak, but feel you have the right to dictate the 99% majority’s lives and commit T acts because you can’t win with democracy.

[@carolyncarnahan960]

Someone please answer this: exactly how is the woman defending murder when talking about eating meat? Murder is killing people for no reason. Slaughter is killing livestock for specific reasons

[@py16667]

@@carolyncarnahan960 Why do you think “murder” fits only one black & white definition? Murder is also defined as unjustified killing, or needless killing, or premeditated killing. It’s most widely defined as killing a “person” & person widely defined as an individual, not strictly human. Many people have “reasons” for killing others, still not justified in most cases & it would be murder. If there was someone who went on a spree killing puppies & kittens, it’s semantics what specific label you’d prefer to give them, the unjustified killing would make them a murderer

[@carolyncarnahan960]

@@py16667 please answer this with a response: exactly how is slaughtering livestock needlessly killing them? We need meat and clothing material and no not every omnivorous person is going to eat a plant based diet cuz since mock meat fish eggs and dairy products at best only look and taste like real meat fish eggs and dairy products why would omnivorous people want to eat it?

[@michaelenns8872]

Oh wow, at the end she even had the audacity to tell him how to do activism properly. My god, she herself consumes animal products three times a day. Man, I definitely want to learn from such a person how to do activism properly.

[@suzannevegancultleader8509]

We get this all the time!

[@wolfwonderess]

I always love when people tell me how to do activism. Like…bro, I AM vegan, I know what worked on me to turn me vegan. I always tell them to tell me what would work on them to make them go vegan, and that I will tell them what they tell me verbatim, yet they never want to go vegan. :P Yet they insist their methods will work? Why should I believe that when your own method isn’t even working on YOU, you silly meathead?

[@Masilya111]

Her favorite word is extreme. There's nothing extreme in her behavior though "I will never stop eating meat because of taste". No consideration for the victims. Defending animals however, very extreme. Being vegan = extreme. Directly funding animal torture every day = not extreme. It's not extreme because most of us do this 🧠. She's a very good manipulator.

[@nobloodnotears6880]

It was listening to your debates that ultimately made me vegan .. it took me two years of watching your arguments to finally watch dominion & earthlings…. Then I went vegan overnight

[@aquajem1]

Wow, I had just become vegan when I saw Dominion at veg fest in London, certainly reinforced everything I’d learned. I’d been veggie over 30 years, what I waste of time I now feel that was😢 @joeycarbstrong my youngest son became vegan because he found you! 💚

[@cloro1238]

I hate when carnists smile and laugh all the way through, like it’s funny. What an infuriating woman 🙄. You helped me go Vegan. Keep going Joey 👏🏼

[@py16667]

@@corbinm9874 I’m laughing bc you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with Joey lol, you keep coming back to comment & never make an argument, just come off as a triggered little snowflake, that’s also reality 😂😂

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

@@corbinm9874 fr lmao

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

It is funny, because we get to eat delicious meat and you don't

[@cloro1238]

@@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn I can eat whatever I like, I just choose not to be selfish cunt.

[@cloro1238]

@@corbinm9874 Carnists literally live in a fairytale.

[@blondey3261]

Funny thing is this is Joey at his calmest. Way to go Joey, that took a lot of patience.

[@derekprieur5258]

People who care about animals don’t “reduce” the amount they hurt animals. They stop entirely. Keep up the great work Joey 🌱

[@redpillpusher]

well I don't think that it can be summed up or reduced as such so easily. for better or for worse the human animal mind has certain mechanisms that need to be tackled within the conversation of veganism ....things like bais, compartmentalization, cognitive dissonance, etc. all of which contribute to strongly held beliefs, culture and traditions that define communities to whole societal structures.

[@ryanmichaelangelofavale5863]

Mate, you're brilliant

[@lxnkzi1266]

Nope they do reduce it, stopping entirely isn’t possible. Animals get killed in the harvesting of plant products and get killed to protect crops etc by paying for plant foods or products you’re creating a supply and demand, farmers wouldn’t be harvesting or protecting crops from animals if you didn’t pay them etc. you also will kill bugs if you drive a car, you will also accidentally step on ants. reducing the amount is the only possibility entirely eliminating it isn’t possible.

[@kozarozmata6016]

@@lxnkzi1266 shhh dont burst his bubble of being delusionally cruelty free

[@derekprieur5258]

@@lxnkzi1266 plant based lifestyle is by far the most ethical we have at the moment (obviously I’m aware small animals & bugs die during farming crops for humans and many more die for the animals you eat). Farming can get better over time and I will continue to support the ethical practices as PRACTICALLY possible. This does not mean I’m going to stop walking outside to save bugs

[@tashaax1993xanimalloverx]

One of the most idiotic responses you've had so far she's deflecting so bad she's coming across crazy and pretty evil smirking and laughing through out everything you were talking about

[@Nadjasmin13]

Omg Yeees..

[@m34569]

Absolutely

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

Because we're laughing at how pushy you guys are

[@tashaax1993xanimalloverx]

@@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn no she chose to sit down hardly pushy

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

@@tashaax1993xanimalloverx I'm talking about most vegans in general

[@shauniepotter5562]

I'm vegan because I watched one of your videos a year ago. Keep up the good work 🌱

[@MrGifty44]

You, Alex O'connor, and Sonia Faruqi (Project Animal Farm) made me face reality. Been vegan for nearly 2 years! Keep up the good work!

[@TheVeganFinalBoss]

shame that alex has renounced his morals isn't it

[@lucindabreeding]

Vegan daughter of a dad who raises grass fed beef cattle. These animals aren't treated any different than factory-farmed cattle. They are taken to feedlots and slaughtered the same way factory-farmed cattle are slaughtered. The bull calves are castrated the same way. They suffer when they are weaned. Romanticize grass fed beef cattle if you must. But they aren't treated like pets, and they die the same way factory farmed beef cattle do.

[@af6756]

I think she said at least 10 times that Joey was being aggressive while yelling and grinning in his face all throughout this debate...WTF

[@muhammadabedin3711]

Thank you Joey, I changed due to your videos. I come from a Muslim background that uses the “halal” work around to justify the killing. I am now considered extreme but more at peace with myself

[@JoeyCarbstrong]

Bless you brother

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

Yeah, you're considered extreme cuz you try to enforce your diet on others and you don't see it

[@batabata3239]

@@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn you are enforcing your diet on the animals

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

@@batabata3239 and? They're fucking livestock, idc. They're for food to me

[@batabata3239]

@@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn i know, the point is vegans didnt force their diet on you, you are doing it to others

[@Drowno]

It's because of your hard hitting approach to share the disgusting truth of the industry as well as Ed's way of shedding light that made me vegan. Count me towards your followers

[@kasroa]

Exactly the same for me. It was the no nonsense approach that got my attention, listening to logic and reason and people like Joey who don't shy away from the facts. People who try to police Joey's tone are just deflecting, they cant argue against the facts so they complain about his tone instead. And when they say his approach doesn't work, well that is demonstrably false. There has been some research (see Sam Harris) that shows that being exposed to facts that conflict with your world view can induce strong feelings similar to disgust, which explains why people find it so difficult to change their mind even in the face of pretty straightforward facts.

[@leo-r7]

Same for me as well!

[@Empathy4Animals411]

@@kasroa Sam Harris is a very poor example - he's a vivisectionist. If you don't know what that is, it's someone who tortures and kills animals in laboratories to get a degree in "neuroscience."

[@jackieboyle1851]

The moment she tried to put the blame on you was the moment she realised she had lost the argument. There was nowhere else for her to go so she made it your fault. 😄

[@rescuerhonda0164]

I stopped eating meat in 1991, but didn't know about the egg and dairy industries until 3 years ago. I watched Gary's Best Speech Ever and Dominion, and I went vegan on the spot. As most vegans, my biggest regret is not knowing sooner.

[@TheDeterminer]

You made me turn vegan 1 year ago. Going vegan is the Best thing that I've ever done. I'm truly grateful that Joey just tells things how they are and doesn't hide the truth.

[@MarkLumsley]

Interestingly, she mentions that "it's YOUR job to convince ME to become vegan." Yet here is Joey explaining every viable reason why, and she still says that she won't stop, but only reduce. :/ More proof that meat is valued for nothing more than taste and texture, and less for nutrition.

[@evilsotherbrother7481]

There is no data in existance that states meat isnt nutritious nor is there any data that states humans must not eat meat. Unless you get your data from cancel culture parasites like peta and the simps who hang off ever word. Youre a gamer. Stick to what you know. Health and nutrition isnt it.

[@braveintofuture]

He could have pointed out she needs to take responsibility for her own actions

[@evilsotherbrother7481]

@@braveintofuture youre a fraud and hypocrite you need to take responsibility for being a pathological liar, then seek mental health advice.

[@redbriarn6295]

She pointed out that she was from from a part of the global trade system that was more dependent upon exports of food products and imports textiles

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

We still value meat for nutrition

[@2merel2]

Well, I became vegan after being confronted the aggressive way by vegans. Or in her eyes 'extreme vegans'. She is just not educated enough on animal cruelty and environmental issues.

[@suzannevegancultleader8509]

No she knows she just doesn't care

[@helensimmonds6668]

Just wow….. your advocacy turned and keeps me Vegan Joey. That woman did my head in!! 🤯

[@blakeREVOLUTION]

7 years ago when I researched and realised I can be perfectly healthy without eating meat that’s when I stopped. I quickly became aware of all the Environmental, Health and Moral positives of being Vegan, multiple influences including yourself Joey have helped me strengthen my beliefs. Thank you for all your hard work. Fellow Aussie.

[@stephanschulz9610]

Your "extreme approach" made me go vegan two and a half years ago. 🌱 And I wish that someone had told me the truth about the consequences of my actions earlier. She, on the other hand, wishes that vegans never say what's really going on. I think these are the type of people we will never convince, because they simply don't care about animals.

[@reenapatel6812]

I was a vegan trapped in a meat eater's body for some time. You Joey swung it for me. I saw your videos, where I heard about Challenge22. I signed up to the July 2022 course and that gave me all the support, encouragement and guidance to go completely vegan in mind and body now. Don't be disheartened by such stubborn argumentative people trying to stop your good work. For every 1 person who you waste your time on there are tens that you make an impact on. Keep up the amazing work you do and thank you.

[@utubechops]

“They have to produce avocados because it’s the new hot thing with milliennials” “Do you eat avocados?” “I do” 😂😂 If you don’t laugh, you’ll cry ffs

[@rob.simbulis]

I was also one of those people that said "I won't go vegan, I couldn't live without cheese" (whilst attending 'cheese fest' in Birmingham) Fortunately I realised its actually not oxygen and I can actually live quite happily without it. (not taking into account all the lovely 'cheese' I make myself... long live the cashew)

[@cindy652]

I got tired just listening to her. Actually, she wore me out. It's interesting how the people who are aggressive and extreme are usually the ones who accuse vegans of being aggressive and extremist.

[@flyingfig12]

Projection was on full height with her.

[@planetofthevegans880]

She was incredibly annoying - loud and aggressive.

[@chuckybang]

I enjoyed listening to her. She was trying so hard to justify eating meat. You could tell she was thinking hard about it. I did the same thing long ago and eventually it changed my mind.

[@agnesmach2485]

I get tired of his rhetoric, it’s always the same....you can’t change pple overnight. She has an excellent point....

[@cindy652]

@@agnesmach2485 if you want to sympathize with her, that's your prerogative. She can take her sweet time and decide if she will be vegan or not, but I feel very proud of Joey for not compromising and staying focused on who the real victims are here. We will NEVER forget the victims, NEVER!

[@claudiaruella7636]

Joey, I became vegan 3 years ago and it has been, by far, the best conscious choice of my life. It's thanks to people like you and Ed that I managed to open my eyes at such a young age (I was 19). Since I've done a lot of inner work on myself, I can tell how unconscious and uncomfortable she feels with herself, because I used to do and say the same exact things. Deep inside she knows that what she says doesn't make any logical sense, but she is resisting it soooo badly, she doesn't want to listen to it, therefore she starts acting like a spoiled child that wants to take revenge on someone, trying to make you feel like you are in the wrong position. She is scared of the truth, and she keeps going in circles trying to jump from an argument to another to cover herself and find an excuse. I profoundly admire how devoted you are, your passion and drive for what you're doing, and how brilliantly you recognize patterns, trying to bring her back to the topic. There is something that I've learned by analizing and studying history, and I don't think that most people realize it: in order to bring change to society, we need people who are willing to risk their lives (that got murdered, burnt and tortured for example - which still happens nowadays - because they went against the "common belief") and reputation, that are not afraid to step up and let others hear their voice, challenging the ordinary. Someday, one of my goals is to be part of such an awesome team by helping spread true information and BE THE CHANGE BY ACTING. That's what I've discovered to be my life purpose, and I would have never been able to realize this if not for you, I was about to head towards a completely different direction that didn't resonate with me at all. So thank you Joey, for triggering something inside of me and making me kick my own ass, only true courageous people are ready to do such work. You are such an amazing and inspiring soul, we keep supporting you. Sending lots of love and kindness ❤️

[@shawndarling5855]

Veganism has changed my life as well but not for the better. My wife and I have two fifteen year old boys. I am self employed in the hunting and sport fishing industry. And I figured that it was time for them to start working. Well their science teacher is a vegan activist. She debated and shamed them right in front of the whole class. She uses her classroom for spreading her beliefs. My boys did become vegan and so did my wife. She quit working for me and started working in a office. She started an affair with a vegan there. The boys went with her I am thankful for prenuptial agreements since started an affair with someone else she gets nothing but child support. All this got going when our boys ask me how could I live with ourselves knowing that everything we have is paid for with the blood of innocent animals? They did have a good point. I mean they have cell phones,. Computers in their room,. Tvs, Xboxes,. So I realized that so I took away every luxury item that they had. My boys now are cut out of my will since they don't want anything to do with me until I turn vegan. Plus no self respecting vegan would take assets from such an industry

[@amefibrasil6058]

Ethics can move mountains!

[@backcuetheoriginal]

Yes another video from JC! You made mine and the animals days! Keep up the good work Joey!

[@gangsta891]

Joey changed me to vegan and yes it was instant.

[@roku3216]

All this protein talk is making me want a rich and delicious dish of mung dal with rice and grilled peppers. Good talk, full of information.

[@brandoonjen2975]

You did not convince me to go vegan, I've gotta give that credit to Earthling Ed. You did however solidify my stance in veganism, and help me get into the mindset needed to never even consider going back, and for that I'm very grateful. Thank you for all of the hard work you do.

[@jeyhunfazilov2060]

You contributed to me switching to veganism 4 years ago Joey. Yours and Earthling Eds videos really made me commit to the lifestyle

[@NoName-fd6bi]

Joey you had spoken to a lot of good hearted non vegans but this lady is just horrible cold hearted, selfish and ignorant. I feel sorry for her lack of empathy. My sister went vegan because of your words : "I don't think that a cow deserves that we take her baby away just so we can eat cheese." She get that instantly and became vegan

[@StenUustalu]

Her brain is full of animal hormones which are making her act that way. I hope one day science and human psychology will do studies on how the brain works in relation to eating meat (red meat especially)

[@CDAActivism]

I remember that video 💯💯💯 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6mqeoR9gLmUhNE

[@perihelion7445]

Are you pro-choice or pro-life?

[@CDAActivism]

@@perihelion7445 irrelevant.

[@perihelion7445]

@@CDAActivism Subjectively to you it is, objectively it's not.

[@veronicakhuttan6151]

Wow! I hope one day she will see, just how much suffering her actions are causing! Great Debate Joey! I have been vegan for a year and a half from watching your videos and will never go back!

[@ferg492]

You couldn't get a word in, she talked your ears off. I didn't see any aggression on your part. You can't tell people like her anything, they know everything 😱

[@serafimb2319]

That's just not true, this simply wasn't a beautiful discussion. Both talked over each other, barely listened, and only filtered out what they wanted to hear. I've grown to like Joey more over the years, but patience was never his strong suit.

[@TenTempeh]

@@serafimb2319 I would argue this lady was not prone to debate at any moment. Joey just had someone who thought she was entering in a pro-meat debate. That's not the kind of receptive mindset appropriate to debate on this matter. It reflected on her being disrespectful, disregarding his arguments, calling him extremist... How could he not be impatient.

[@tanasaelena-daniela7786]

Thank you so much for your work! Your channel gives me hope, comfort and the tools to debate when the subject comes up, even though I’ll never have your patience 😊🤗

[@AMileWithKyle]

I went Vegan years ago after finding your channel. Thanks for everything!

[@kantoros]

11:58 I remember when I thought the same. "To eat a cow but not a dog/cat is hypocritical, therefore I should be okay with eating a dog/cat". Then I realized how *fucking psychopatic* that line of thinking is. Became a vegan maybe 1 month later.

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

Because I see cows as food, not dogs

[@kantoros]

@@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn Then my question to you is: What makes a cow food, but not a dog?

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

@@kantoros because of their purpose. I see livestock as food, but dogs were not bred for food. People eat dogs in China, but I kinda don't care

[@richardham4169]

i live sometimes in manado. google the market there. dogs cats rats all animals on sale. i love satay dog sticks. tasty

[@kal.el123]

What if someone sees poc as slaves, not people? Valid? This isn't logic, it just speaks to your subjective, illogical biases.@@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn

[@josephinegilbertan1476]

Already vegan when I started watching you but you definitely inspire me to continue the journey on those hard days!

[@josephinegilbertan1476]

Also, why do people always bring up his past? We all have a past, I'm definitely not proud of a lot of mine! Like move on!

[@ipconfigearth102]

@@josephinegilbertan1476 Exactly - that is the real strawman!!

[@TheLoyalpain]

"Shame on you for not eating the tortured flesh of a chicken" 🙄

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

She doesn't care if he eats meat or not. But he gets pressed when we eat chicken lol.

[@cynicalidealist11]

@@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn Well yeah, because it’s unethical, obviously. You’re slitting a sentient beings throat against its will. Would you not get pressed if someone else abused a child? You probably would, because it’s unethical.

[@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn]

@@cynicalidealist11 yeah, I care more about a human child than some damn livestock that I eat. The cows and chickens are for food

[@mattpastro3247]

Never seen anyone destroy Joey’s arguments with “aggressive arguments”. They just appear very dumb or psychopathic.

[@religionofpeace782]

They don't just "appear" psychopathic they ARE one. They are already chewing dead body parts of animals!!

[@GoVeganForTheAnimal]

Thank you for having a talk with her, it means a lot for the animmals even though it seemed not so great

[@morganyoungisplayingdrums]

These are the types of imbeciles that I feel Joey wastes his intelligence on. They simply want to debate him just to have a simple conflict. In this clip, the woman is so entrenched in the death that she eats that she is beyond the point of no return. What more can I say other than, another well-done clip from Joey.

[@TXRhody]

It's not a waste if the viewers see her as unreasonable and reflect on their own attitudes.

[@zarelli7831]

She went toe to toe with him! What were you watching lol

[@Trolloftruth]

@@TXRhody viewers see these videos and talk to others...and both laugh at the vegan idiots while eating anumal products. ..true story

[@GarudaLegends]

@@zarelli7831 she is smarter than that clown

[@justicericketts2912]

@@GarudaLegends you should rewatch, i am clueless how you came to that conclusion.

[@MarkLumsley]

She's clearly not taking this debate very seriously, and it's really annoying! xD

[@GarudaLegends]

because vegans are all clowns.

[@suzannevegancultleader8509]

Yes it's a big joke to her

[@Trolloftruth]

Who TF does take vegan debates seriously?? I watch them for my humor

[@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent]

@@Trolloftruth You really don't have anything better to do other than argue that animals should be abused and killed for no reason?

[@Trolloftruth]

@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent animals ARE killed for a reason...MANY MANY REASONS...all justified and all will continue No argument needed

[@TiagoSalemaG]

She became SO uncomfortable when you asked her what her morals were about the animals

[@mattmaidment8083]

Influenced me, I was looking to counter the vegan argument a few years ago and it quickly dawned on me that you cannot agree with facts and logic. Keep going Joey 👍, you change my mind.

[@TiagoSalemaG]

- Your argument is a straw man. - Do you know what a straw man is? - Err, not really, I read it somewhere.

[@archiephillips1010]

Three years ago I did the research and decided that on paper going vegan was the only ethical thing to do. Two years ago, it took people like Joey to kick me up the ass and provide the impetus to change - I became vegan overnight. The ‘process’ is just more excuses and kicking the can down the road. Anyone who actually cares about animals wouldn’t even consider merely reducing their meat intake - they would just stop.

[@skyjackmorgan]

I love when they tell you to be more agreeable. That's how American slavery ended: abolitionists just stopped being extreme and asked more nicely.

[@WhyArentYouVegan]

Thank you for speaking up for animals.

[@tykosay]

You've influenced me to go vegan! I've been vegetarian for 6 months and in the last two weeks I've made the shift to veganism. I just can't see any other way! Thanks Joey.

[@farahsummers1171]

Wow!!! Highly frustrating & as ever yr patience is admirable. Keep doing what you do Joey as so many beautiful hearts/minds are open to the truth you consistently share. Much ❤ to you & T!

[@Kalvis1]

Joey, you made me go Vegan 3 years ago. Never looking back!

[@Jarv263]

Some meat eaters say some stupid shit 🤦🏻‍♂️ stop tip toeing around and just say you’re selfish and don’t care, own in. She keeps saying vegans shout but I hope she looks back at how she behaved during this.

[@drew2465]

She was absolutely insufferable, i don't know how you can deal with those type of people. When meat eaters defend themselves It just sounds like a flat eather trying to explain their point, nothing they say will ever be correct.

[@marijncat6711]

I absolutely admire the way you don't back down at all from anyone. Be it police, people dropping dead fish corpses on your table, the dude in this video trying to ask about your prison past (what an asshole) and you not even being slightly intimidated whatsoever. If anything, I think your past has gotten you thicker skin and I love that you turned it around and used it to save animals. But that is just what I can see. Being confident, but also patient, and staying like that is one of the hardest things for me as an activist and I wish I was more like you. The animals appreciate what you do.

[@soredon]

oh god someone did that?!?!? what a low blow ._. yet they’ll call us unreasonable…

[@rjbenson9621]

I went vegetarian a long long time ago, but only went vegan after watching your videos. Joey, your 'extreme' activism worked on me!

[@adrianahamorova]

Exactly, she started to switch off the moment her consciousness started to knock on her heart's door... Scared to see the reality, to see the true problem of her choices... It's not the extreme vegans, it's her own fear... In her heart she knows all the answers to every question you asked, she is just scared to be honest with herself, scared of change ...

[@Samuel_Giba]

Never understood the problem people have with supplements. If they are part of the diet then the diet is complete.

[@Nadjasmin13]

Because they are really stupid and to lazy to inform themselves about supplements. I guess they think supplements are synthetic..

[@Fred-hb7ob]

You know its a good one when you cringe at just the intro

[@wesroberts2032]

This was a painful watch. Thanks for what you do, Joey!

[@febrero-luv]

Meat eaters trying to convince vegans they know how to turn them vegan is the most annoying thing.

[@Silzaress]

She contradicted herself so much that it actually made my head hurt. Very ignorant person, I would not have talked to her for that long. What you said towards the end, was true in every word, Joey. And yes you've made thousands of people go vegan. People that are actually willing to listen and to question themselfes and their actions and who are not stubborn to change.

[@TheDanza316]

Myself and many people I know have turned vegan due to, chiefly and predominately, your KZbin channel, your incredible efforts to spread awareness and crucial attack on peoples’ cognitive dissonance. Keep up the great work, brother. VFTA 🌱

[@jackmichaelpeter]

She’s very loud for someone who’s accusing someone else of shouting

[@johndouglas9893]

I went vegan shortly before watching your content about 3.5 years ago. But, since then, I've enjoyed watching your content since and me and my partner haven't stopped. We hope to meet you one day as we are both activists, however we haven't had the chance to go to AV for a while in Melbourne because we're very busy with 15 month old twins and another baby coming along the way. You're a true inspiration and because of you you've helped more than you could know with my activism arguments and style of activism. Thank you for all you do for the innocent that STILL continue to suffer and die for such a pathetic cause... Much love to you and any vegan reading this. Take care.

[@WorldOfARandomVegan]

It's funny she mentioned broccoli vs beef for protein. She doesn't realize that broccoli actually has a lot of protein. People just automatically think plants have no protein. Ridiculous!

[@braveintofuture]

I believe just one single slaughterhouse video would change her opinion about what is extreme

[@anthonyharris3193]

well said every one should not hide their head in the sand

[@LutherAEvans]

She seems more extreme to me because she is fighting against the peaceful approach and for the continued suffering and killing of animals. She wanted to hear the message that reducing her meat intake is good enough, but the truth is that any amount of unnecessary violence towards animals in not okay.

[@sergiowestphal9731]

People cling so tightly to their eating habits and use all kinds of excuses and victimhood to avoid seeing the reality.

[@rewananadar1547]

Wow! I appreciate you for being patient when you were accused to be aggressive and extreme. I think the best way to end the conversation would be to say "please consider going vegan" Veganism is the best of what humanity could offer to everyone on Earth. Go Vegan🌱

[@theloveleebaker]

I have been vegan for 19 years and it still amazes me the ignorant things that come out of non vegans mouths. Thank you for all you do, Joey. ✌🏾❤️

[@cheekiestclan5668]

Vegan for 4 years myself, and now both parents and girlfriend all vegan because of your videos. The girl was dishonest and quite honestly morally disgusting, but a great chance for you to make a point on the channel that some people aren't ready to make the right decision. Keep at it!!

[@BandeDaKhandaKhadkega]

Thankyou Joey 💚💚💚, I was non-vegetarian for 18-19 years then I went vegetarian after seeing the cruelty. Luckily one day I clicked on the Joey Carbstrong's video and then started watching his other videos too one by one with an open mind not like this girl who just don't wanna listen and saying blah blah, then in a period of 2 days watching his videos I went vegan. Thankyou Joey 💚💚💚

[@guerchr1993]

My vegan journey started by watching your vids, thanks!

[@Ar0n125]

one of your best debates i've seen

[@arty-AN5690]

As Hench Herbivore once said; "Turn yourself vegan first, then tell us how to turn others vegan". If someone is not vegan, then they're not part of this justice movement, so why is it of concern to them how effective our method of advocacy is? Doesn't really add up.

[@saula4668]

This woman was selfish, arrogant and agressive. You were quite calm and polite during the whole conversation, you even complimented her a couple of times. I think you handled it in a great way.

[@Kib208]

That woman loves the sound of her own voice! She lacks the knowledge and results to joking. What a fool. Shame on you lady.

[@manruption7565]

If someone is willing to kill another living being that person is worth being hated and I have no shame in saying I hate stupid people.

[@ipconfigearth102]

Hell yeah....

[@suzannevegancultleader8509]

So hard not to

[@manruption7565]

@@rondarkman. Good to know you lack compassion. You will now first hand how it feels when you meet someone who lacks it. Nature has a way of correcting itself.

[@manruption7565]

@@rondarkman. Nope not miserable at all. Only takes a miserable and sadist person to call a sentient being food. I suggest you buy a mirror. 😂

[@roselaura-gracesing4968]

I have been vegan for years and Joey helped me have courage to stand up for what I believe to my family. My family called me extreme this last weekend when I told them I was not going to attend the family dinner where they were eating lamb. They made fun of me and made a smoothie for me saying it had blended up dog and bear blood in it. Wow. I am extreme?