House of The Dragon: A Good Prequel to an EPIC Failure

[@paranoyd70]

Its weird to me how Amazon has spent way more on their Lord of the Rings show than what HBO has spent on this new GoT show, yet GoT looks ten times better. The sets look better, the armor looks way better, the outfits look better and I could go on & on. So Amazon spends way more but their show looks way worse. Weird.

[@antonioangeloviii4748]

amazon are idiots. thetr gave the 1 billion dollar budget to amateur directors. nuff said. the lotr will be ass.

[@SmithMaximus]

Its not that weird when you consider the experience that HBO has with epic shows like this by now. Before GOT you had The Borgias and Rome, two shows that built the bones of what would become the backbone of their showmaking capacity.

[@christianvitroler5289]

Amazone hires by diversity level of wokeness, not by skill

[@oracle8589]

That’s because GOT was filmed in the UK where they have some of the best people and facilities in the industry. Rings of Power was filmed in NZ for purely nostalgic reasons where they are not known for being particularly strong in this field. It’s not their fault as they have a tiny population so it’s harder to produce enough talented designers, technicians etc etc

[@Skitdora2010]

Amazon used to have Amazon studios where they allowed anybody to set up an account and send in their script and ideas at any stage of their thought process for amazon to give it a greenlight, until they had enough cast offs from other media and they then closed off the publics possible talent for people in the lower ends of the media who were not good enough to climb the ladder at those studios. So, the higher ups at amazon studio projects are the door mats at the bottom of the other companies. The other companies knew well not to throw their gambling chips at them.

[@BennyLlama]

Does anyone actually belive Martin is actually working on Winds of Winter anymore?

[@mickeymickey9914]

I stopped caring

[@rhaevan.maniyara]

yes.. he will finish it. Both Winds and Dream.

[@BennyLlama]

@@BenjinMartin76 hahaha

[@BennyLlama]

@@rhaevan.maniyara I hope you're right, I really do

[@CommanderLongJohn]

@@BenjinMartin76 Reminds me of that 'James Gandolfini workout room' bit from Family Guy, he walks by in an open robe/underwear eating a donut-flips the light on (dust & spider web on the bench), flips it off-then saunters off

[@blorgin1]

I like how dangerous this Daemon guy feels. When he lost that duel I expected him to come up behind the guy and behead him

[@michaelalan6459]

Everyone ends up a villain besides him.

[@ROUGHSEES]

@@michaelalan6459 lol

[@michaelalan6459]

@@ROUGHSEES it's true lol

[@ROUGHSEES]

@@michaelalan6459 😂😂😂

[@solidkreate5007]

Yeah me too, I fully expected that. But it seems even ass evil as he may seem, he has honor.

[@preslim84]

One thing to note about that "heir for a day" scene, is that they carefully shot it with Otto saying the words, they never showed Daemon saying it, only implied. Otto's sources could have been wrong, or he purposely lied to the king for his own intentions. Daemon was equally ambiguous about it during the confrontation with Viserys and did not confirm or deny saying it. It could just be a coincidence, or I wonder if they have plans to revisit this topic and that he never actually said it.

[@jhiinbo7678]

this makes sense... goddamn, especially from a cinematography point of view as you expressed above. I'm pretty excited as this show feels like it truly is a "Game of Thrones." Seeing these characters plot and scheme against each other in order to reach ultimate power. That is what hooked me when I started OG GoT. Let the games begin!

[@ТуринТурамбар-п8н]

Так было в книге!

[@jackcslewis2009]

I noticed that but then why wouldn't Daemon defend himself? It was a public spot there should be tons of witnesses as to whether he did it or not. Weird situation.

[@alecseusalec3418]

He'll make up for it later.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@jackcslewis2009 Because his brother already thought the worst of him. There was no way to win for him at that point. Ironically if he hadn't sent Daemon away then Daemon and Rhaeneyra might have joined forces on the throne in an unbeatable combination.

[@scottjeffreys365]

When I first I heard that there was going to be a "Targaryen" prequel, I was actually hoping for it to focus on Aegon & his conquest of the kingdoms.

[@LucLB01]

That could have been entertaining, but Aegon didn’t really face that many obstacles during his conquest. He basically just showed up and kicked everybody’s ass. That wouldn’t make for a very suspenseful show.

[@raymondlaspina7870]

Aegon arrives with his sisters, their dragons and their small army and steamroll through all of Westeros, conquering all of the kingdoms except for Dorne.

[@scottjeffreys365]

@@LucLB01 that's what I thought. I would've loved to see it though

[@scottjeffreys365]

@@raymondlaspina7870 How about a prequel showing the Targaryens before "the doom" then end the show a littlewhile after "the doom", maybe that would've been exciting too

[@jeffbrewer1580]

@@LucLB01 might have been good as a mini series

[@BrewsBrothersCT]

Imagine if JRR Tolkien never finished Return of the King and decided to concentrate on the “expanded universe”

[@matthewtait2939]

Not really a fair comparison though considering lord of the rings was released as one book and is the same size total as one asoiaf book. Also it took him 14 years to write lotr. Still… 11 years to write winds is a joke

[@BrewsBrothersCT]

@@matthewtait2939 The return of the king was published later than the previous two books. Tho I do not doubt all three books were completed prior to publication….still. The point is to “just imagine”…. Not letting GRRM off the hook

[@matthewtait2939]

@@BrewsBrothersCT yeah I agree. Tired of his excuses but there is not much we can do about it unfortunately

[@marcogenovesi8570]

"I can't understand how fans can despise something they once loved" -GRRM

[@BrewsBrothersCT]

@@marcogenovesi8570 When it becomes trash…we do not owe creators our undying loyalty. If anything, they owe it to the fans to keep creating good stuff.

[@unitedeagle4046]

I really like Matt Smith’s daemon. Enjoying the show so far.

[@mattgalley8587]

Same here,I'm at least going to watch a few episodes before giving an opinion🤷‍♂️

[@cinqueqwerty]

Same. I’m not Matt’s hardcore fan, but I think I could be after this. He really shines

[@newtonmichaelson215]

Same here also it's far more interesting than I thought

[@SteveHandlebar]

ditto! 😉

[@diogovieira5563]

yes, he is as good as he is ugly.

[@fatrick9001]

Spoiler for the show finale: you will be dissatisfied with it because it'll emphasize how everything that happened was all a bunch of power jockeying nihilism

[@reiudfgq3vrh34ur]

its based on the Dance of the Dragons which is definition of nihilism but its a good story regardless

[@frankie3010]

@@reiudfgq3vrh34ur some would argue it isn't possible for such story to be good.

[@Bayard1503]

So, like British history from where it takes its inspiration? :))

[@pg1448]

"all a bunch of power jockeying nihilism" Sounds good to me.

[@CommanderLongJohn]

@@reiudfgq3vrh34ur They're already basically framing it like the 'men are forcing these poor girls into positions they don't want to be in,' when in the books it's because these two gals are largely just self deluded assholes that want a throne 😑 Bet we get a scene with grown up Rhaenys/Alicent candidly talking about how 'if only we could just fly in the sky and eat cake and scissor me timbers but these dang men won't let us!' as it seems they're going to be more than "friends" (which they barely even were via the age gap) 🥴

[@GorTheMovieGod]

Ralph Fiennes is a great actor. If only he was in the show.

[@RolandDeschain1]

Rhys Ifans... Honest mistake.

[@zeldafreak1975]

Probably should have known that one Ray Fines lol

[@milenabianca9787]

Came to the comments for this 😂

[@RawBogan]

@@milenabianca9787 Ditto!

[@shadowofthenamelessking]

He was there, you just didn’t see him.

[@boreopithecus]

They’ve talked about a Jon Snow series. Maybe the Night King returns in that. He really should, him being defeated in the first battle across the wall was extremely anticlimactic after hyping him up over seven seasons as the main threat everyone needed to unite against. And then Arya swoops in and kills him, a character that had zero involvement in that entire arc before that.

[@Darcsied27]

He thinks Targaryens are blonde lol I’m out

[@Derpfriar]

I expected it to be garbage as my heart is still filled with hate from season 8 but i was pleasently suprised that House of Dragon's first episode was entertaining

[@YourEmperorStef]

Well then your expectations are low compared to your massive ones where Daenerys flies off on Drogon with John on a unicorn in the purple candy skies. I understand the season was rushed and had some massive fails like the battle for Winterfell, but most crap people are giving the season is dumb and was predicted for seasons before, yet nobody said jack.

[@DefineHatespeech]

@@YourEmperorStef season 8 was an objective dumpster fire, a half-aborted abomination of writing and lazy rushed incompetence.

[@YourEmperorStef]

@@DefineHatespeech Rushed yes, plot-wise everything that happened we knew or suspected it would happen

[@jamesbohm3690]

@@YourEmperorStef you expected Bran would become king, after he literally says "I could never be lord of anything"? The show runners said they specifically chose random endings like that to "subvert expectations" And whether the endings were expected or not, why does that matter if they ring hollow? There's no emotion in any of it. The truth is George crafted a brilliant story but doesn't know how to end it, so two guys who are great editors but not authors themselves had zero chance of producing a satisfying conclusion in his place. They were way out of their depth, just as any normal person would be while working in George's collosal shadow

[@mcdick1621]

@@YourEmperorStef almost everything in season 8 stinks fam lmao. And the same goes for season 7 and a slightly lesser extend for season 6 and 5.

[@Emy-fv5ny]

When King Viserys started talking about the long night I was thinking: "Oh God, not again!" 🙄

[@kronozord8346]

That ruined the episode for me, too many flashbacks from GOT ending...

[@TheKadanz]

This is what is meant with Retard & Retard having completely destroyed the franchise with their braindead writing. Any prequels or sequels is going to have to follow the main series established cannon. When that scene played I had the urge to laugh out loud.

[@AntiTMG]

I felt the same way felt like a ptsd attack

[@carnyferobin3193]

Bahahahaahahah😂 yup I’m already over this

[@metalgearmista]

@@kronozord8346 so something he said when the episode was ending ruined the whole episode for you? 😂 maaan stfu, yall are just ready to bitxh about something on the show cause yall still butthurt about season 8, let it go

[@jonnywisseman1519]

Conclusion: it's totally crap, so boring episodes. I watched until 6 episode, after they decide change actor, this is epic failure.

[@Tsizzle3500]

Ideology doesn't care about money, its about deconstruction...

[@TheHeroRobertELee]

Here's some crazy math for you: If George just wrote a single paragraph a day, he'd have finished the book/s years ago. That's how much he doesn't care about finishing.

[@TheDrsalvation]

well, he wasn't just focusing on game of thrones, remember he also co-wrote elden ring.

[@TheHeroRobertELee]

@@TheDrsalvation so he's just irresponsible and inconsiderate? And please, writing for elden ring took no time at all and fromsoft carried much of the weight by themselves using his "writing" as inspiration and more of a foundation. Not the entire narrative and dialogue. George created a framework for them, that's it. And in the grand scheme of Martin's procrastination, that took up less than .000001% of his time that he's wasted not writing Winds of Winter.

[@mmr0221]

I’m gonna reveal something to you. GRRM never wrote these books. He had them written by a ghost writer that had died a few years ago

[@edwardp7725]

You can tell me this show is the best show on television and I still wouldn't watch it out of sheer principle.

[@rossdavidson5122]

Yea me and my wife are gonna wait 10 years before watching, as we're both afraid of being bamboozled down the road. Plus GoT S8=Hot trash

[@pass-the-juice]

then you're as big a crybaby as the libs who make this crap

[@MetalCharlo]

It’s a show it didn’t kill your fucking dog

[@wyzasukitan]

Exactly. My principle being all the wokety-woke nonsense the showrunners and cast were spewing in interviews, not to mention GRRM cursing his own fans for wanting Winds of Winter instead of more doing more Hollyweird sidequels, midquels and prequels. Hard pass. I do not care about Song of Ice and Fire anymore, nor any affiliated properties.

[@thedemonhater7748]

Than why the fuck are you guys here talking about it?

[@LtColWhiskeyPilot]

As Jeremy from G&G says about all of the Mandalorian praise, it still leads to the Sequel Trilogy and Jake Skywalker. The problem with House of the Dragons is that it leads to that disastrous Season 8 finale-I’ll pass!

[@gudhaxer41343]

Lol tell me how it leads to GoT ?? U even know the ending of the Dance ?? Aside from family lineage or the stupid prophecy that fits the books more, theres nothing here that leads to GoT. GoT doesn't even happen after the Dance. Lmao all this bullcrap about how it leads into GoT but fails to say how.

[@tahireed]

This is one of the dumbest comments I have ever read. A story that concludes over 100 years before GOT even starts somehow ends with S8? Absolutely braindead.

[@thoughtsonfitness3249]

As will I….. I’m not ready for another failure! Maybe in 20 years, when I’m 79

[@libtardiacitizen]

@@gudhaxer41343 *shut*

[@xanthippus3190]

The Mandalorian and any Filoni show for that matter don't lead to the sequel trilogy, that continuity has been discarded.

[@_CrissoN]

"whose colour of his hair doesn't match his beard" dude you could say the same exact thing about Paddy Considine's Viserys 😂

[@Billinous]

My confidence in (modern) HBO's ability to ignore the public pressure and focus on the story is rock bottom. I sense plot armor for some of these characters

[@RoberttAvro]

This. It might be decent, but I am not going to watch it initially because I have seen enough from the HBO crowd to not trust their judgement. I don't want to get into the middle of it before finding out that yes, it's just another woke anti male lesson from Hollywood. Completely sick of that trope which is in virtually every new show. Why would I watch something that is meant to offend me based on my gender and (probably) skin colour.

[@joshberkin5567]

The entire damn thing has already been written into a book by GRRM lmao what

[@yigithan.kilinc]

Oh boy, you are in for a ride, plot armor is almost nonexistent in this story

[@billdavis7577]

No one in this story gets what they want in the end.

[@michiel1162]

Have you seen how HBO butchered Watchmen with politics

[@anon_laughing_man]

Just admit it, it's a dumpster fire.

[@fernandosanchez6576]

I am watching it, you can see the feminist empowerment, it is so annoying, is it that difficult to create female characters that are not a...s? Edit: for those who say i have not read the books: True, i haven't, but my point is about how annoying the women are, who cares who or when was written? Still annoying af

[@AskiyaIshaq20]

My brother in christ that's is the whole point of the series

[@vitoraugusto9596]

Well, read the book and your opinion might change about it.

[@Avzigoyhbasilsikos]

Bruh, Martin wrote it that way Stop this blind hate Women have gone through nonsense like this in our history

[@thedemonhater7748]

Wow, women complaining about sexism in the Middle Ages, how woke

[@thatboyred4042]

I would agree with you but a huge theme of the Dance of Dragons was the patriarchal succession system of the Seven Kingdoms. That’s literally the whole reason the civil war started… lol

[@joeconte8475]

I’ll never be okay with what they did to Corlys

[@thelegendaddyspamdonut7605]

Black dude in white wig in Westeros within the small council. Let's have a chinese guy be one of the reps in the Wakandan Council.

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

I don't get why people like this other than out of spite towards the other offerings. The Porta Potty someone sprayed perfume in smells great compared to the other's, but it's still a box of shit.

[@theodenkingofbrohan]

If you hated how they ended game of thrones, but you pay to watch house of the dragon, then you deserve the rings of power

[@JK-qn9qr]

torrent is the way.

[@archongaur1191]

normies are deseperate to see more of their CGI flicks

[@shimazmunshi6595]

house of dragons is just really good plus it has Matt Smith

[@sylon7717]

@@shimazmunshi6595no, it’s pretty bad

[@Steve-dw4wz]

Great content as always. I know you care about the detail, Otto Hightower is played by Rhys Ifans not Ralph Fiennes. Cheers

[@lauren88cleo]

Came looking for this comment 😂

[@seanjones8672]

@@lauren88cleo Me too. The guy knows more about identity politics than films/series. After all, that's where the money is.

[@Wolfman7870]

Shout-out to my random black Targhearyan brother we're not allowed to ask any questions about and no one openly comments on within the show or treats as lesser than for any reason. Totally doesn't break immersion or take you out of the show in any way.

[@ethandalton6480]

You're right, it doesn't

[@qwers6584]

Most of the actors are not easy on eyes. They lack the charisma. House of dragons is a teen show. Its very silly. Most the views from house of dragons fans and they were hoping to find the same level.

[@rhaevan.maniyara]

Aegon seeing the upcoming Long Night is definitely a spoiler for Winds of Winter.. We already saw Dany's vision where Rhaegar talked about the Song of Ice and Fire. Rhaegar figured out while reading some books. "It seems I must be a Warrior." Someone's gotta write it down for someone to read it, right? Always wondered who wrote it and how they've come to know of it. Now I know why.. Or..... It could be a silly fan service😄

[@AstraLuna-o9i]

Well Martin is never going to write Winds of Winter, so the shitty show ending is the only ending ASOIAF is going to have. So the retcon of the Targaryen’s knowing about the white walkers means fuck all, because a super ninja stark girl with a knife is all they needed to stop the Long Night in an hour.

[@AlanDantes76]

Condal said GRRM told him this.

[@AstraLuna-o9i]

@@AlanDantes76 and? It doesn’t even make sense in the Targaryen history that GRRM had wrote that secret would’ve made it to Viserys given all the upsurps by different Targ branches after Aegons conquests. It’s a stupid retcon to connect ASOIAF with The Dance of Dragons that means Jack shit since Martin has no intention of finishing ASOIAF so Weiss and Beinoff’s ending made from GRRM’s end roadmap is all we are ever going to get.

[@cubablue602]

@@AstraLuna-o9i He's about 2/3 done now. Probably release about 2024

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

I liked it cause I always figured as much. That Aegon conquered Westeros cause of the Long Night.

[@j.o.4574]

RR Martin and Rothfuss are two guys that were great writers before their fame. Such a tragedy they got woke with their fame and money.

[@davidfrancisco3502]

RR Martín always has been a post modernist degenerate who despise men greater than him.

[@adriandiaz6379]

Or they are just normal and y’all are weird

[@davidfrancisco3502]

@@adriandiaz6379 RR Martín doesn't give a shit about his stupid books. For him is all about money and getting other post modernist degenerates like him giving him worthless awards and kissing his ass.

[@JosephArata]

People with zero integrity always have a price. Looking at millions in money from the woke mob is pretty appealing to a large majority of people right now. People need to stop letting money rule their life choices. Integrity matters, and not many people in this world have it anymore.

[@davidfrancisco3502]

@@JosephArata Your comment has been shadowbanned on this thread.

[@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177]

Not gonna watch this show Rastafarian medieval knights don’t fit in to a European style show like thrones can’t believe let down again

[@Kernwadi]

There’s no such thing as a coincidence. The fact that you’re reading this means that we’re energetically alligned.

[@jamesc8209]

Man, how did you confuse Rhys Ifans with Ralph Fiennes

[@-Pradi-]

I expected very little from this series and was positively surprised. I feel that the hopelessness of Rings of Power lifts House of The Dragon high. We'll see what happens next.

[@Maria_Erias]

I think it's from an old David Eddings book, but a (paraphrased) line from it is very apropos to modern cinema: "Always expect the worst. That way, when something good happens you can be pleasantly surprised."

[@-Pradi-]

@@Maria_Erias There is a logic to this. However, I fear that in the context of amazon's creation, it may not work xD

[@jormungandr4690]

I mean that token black guy in the white wig was such a goofy visual. The only interesting character in this show so far is Daemon and we all know they are going to ruin him hard.

[@alexxannomaly8735]

as much crap as we have been force fed lately it will be a welcome distraction to have some actual entertainment

[@russwilliams4777]

I could understand the king being given a "your wife or your child" choice, with both dying if he doesn't choose to sacrifice one for the other... I thought that's what it was from the original reports. If she's going to die either way then there is literally no choice and therefore no drama, just senseless horror.

[@dominadors4795]

The worst thing was that he didn't tell her what was happening, that gave me the Heeby Jeebies

[@russwilliams4777]

@@dominadors4795 Yes. If he'd kissed her, whispered "goodbye", and smothered her with a pillow as they went to work with the knives, that'd be a much better scene. Telling her, and having her choose to give her life for her child's would have been another better scene. Or even if she refused and made his decision that much harder, extra drama to tug at the heart-strings.

[@sitcomchristian6886]

@@russwilliams4777 Absolutely. I'm pregnant with my 3rd child right now. If such a horrible decision had to be made, I'd want to be informed so I could say goodbye at least. It's like....I'd want to GIVE my life, not have it taken. But it is statistically true that mothers almost always vote to save the baby, and fathers almost always vote to save the mother. I try not to think about it much nowadays lol ;)

[@dominadors4795]

@@russwilliams4777 it's just about body autonomy to be honest. It showed he was a coward. Most mothers would sacrifice themselves if they knew it would save their child and he couldn't even be honest with her about what was going to happen until she was held down.

[@ramonandrajo6348]

@@dominadors4795 Whatever, dude. XD

[@REJEKT_DEAD]

Matt Smith is entertaining as hell in GOT² and ...he will undoubtedly make this show better. Everything else is sort of wait and see what happens, too early to judge. I was going to start reading the books when season 8 ended. Well as you can imagine, that never happened and I'm glad, seeing as the books are un finished. Kinda Sad. The disaster finale of Game of Thrones kept me from the book I wonder how many more there are like me

[@jonstapleton2340]

His Doctor Who seasons were really good, even with bad writers. I have faith he will do well.

[@Blu3-Fir3]

I'm in the same boat as you. I was reading the first five books, but then I heard about the absolute disaster that was Season 8. Even worse, I heard rumors that the author still has not finished the series almost a decade after the fifth book was released. Supposedly, GRRM refuses to allow anyone to complete ASOIAF if he dies before finishing it. I have no intention of purchasing another GRRM book. There are plenty of other writers who do finish their work, especially if said work is their magnum opus.

[@REJEKT_DEAD]

@@Blu3-Fir3 not going to be much of a magnum opus if it's not completed LMFAO

[@REJEKT_DEAD]

@@jonstapleton2340 He was also the only good thing in Sony's Morbius.

[@Makeshift_Mulder]

He's a great Witcher rip off.

[@jordenrisley6761]

Dude really has his title calling game of thrones an epic failure . He’s a clown .

[@Thomas.Wright]

Two words: SEASON EIGHT. It's trash, and you know it.

[@LNVKRmusic]

this show has no respect for game of thrones! also as a black man the race swapping of Corly's Velaryon makes zero sense as everybody would instantly know Rhaenyra's kids are not Laenor's! If we could kindly ask the showrunners and everybody else to stop being offended on our behalf we might actually get a story worth following but house of the dragon aint it!!

[@raywest3834]

When you compare the dreary House of the Dragon episode 1 to the first hour of GOT, the difference is shocking: In GOT we learn about the Night's Watch and sinister events beyond the wall; we meet the Starks and see just who they are; The King arrives in Winterfell which turns their lives upside down; Bran inadvertently spies on Jaimie and the Queen and is crippled in his fall; We meet Tyrion Lannister and John Snow and each character is skillfully drawn. In short, fascinating characters, large events, brilliant writing and dialogue. None of which are evident in HOD, which is written on the level of a CBS mini-series. Even the tourney could hardly have been duller (compared to the Hand's tourney early in GOT). It's all about the writing, for me, and I hope it improves but I'm not optimistic.

[@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177]

Not gonna watch this show Rastafarian medieval knights killed it for me

[@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ]

Couldn't disagree more. To me, it was awesome. Even better than the first episode of Game of Thrones.

[@coral8063]

I agree FULLY with this. I watched them both within a span of a day and the differences are STARK! GOT had so much more with gags to hook you in. This so far nothing I feel nothin!

[@wewuzkangz694]

I'm almost interested enough to watch this but like Thicc said, the rasta knights are a huge turn off for me. Also, that blonde woman's face really, REALLY annoys me for some reason and I haven't even had the displeasure of hearing her speak yet.

[@William5849]

@@wewuzkangz694 Same. The white dreads dude ruin the immersion for me. And the blonde chick has something going on with her mouth that just rubs me the wrong way. Idk.

[@TimeToRelax199]

A lesbian relationship is a must in today's tv experience, otherwise the show wont even get made

[@andmikkelsen898]

It is easy for HOTD to surpass GOT season 8, while it is pretty much impossible for Rings of Power to surpass LOFTR!.... and they have 5 seasons planned

[@ericpike6949]

I don’t get your blond girl and a dragon comment. The Targaryen’s were all mostly wait for it … blonde

[@MAGAMAN]

"An unreliable narrator sourcing other unreliable narrators" So it's basically CNN?

[@Charleroi92]

Ralph Fiennes doesny play Otto Hightower, Rhys Ifans does

[@tomre2769]

Thank you. Scrolled down to see if anyone caught that :-)

[@tygerstripes3752]

This is known.

[@sojiiro109]

That opening made more sense and left less plot holes than all of season 6, 7 and 8.

[@DriesduPreez]

Where's that from?

[@benwhiley9680]

The melee at the tourie was Damon's fault - he set the tone by acting so dishonourably and it being accepted/rewarded. That'd piss of all of his competitors and they'd all be more inclined to forget the rules too. It was Damon's one fault in the episode, that how he acts when representing the throne/family matters a great deal - he no longer represents just himself.

[@doomgronthewitcher6514]

I am still waiting for Daemon to have an overly prolonged scene in which he dad dances to a song in which the only lyrics are 'have sex'

[@ArmyJay]

Raef Feinnes? Otto Hightower? Nope.

[@wackyswacky1374]

Fire & Blood is far from Martin's worst work in ASOIAF. That's just being a contrarian.

[@mrmxyzptlk8906]

This dude thinks The Batman isn’t good. He’s the definition of contrarian. Still like him ofc but man some of his opinions are god awful.

[@CommanderLongJohn]

@@mrmxyzptlk8906 Lmao you mean the new garbage ass 2022 Batman??

[@CommanderLongJohn]

Lmao lemme guess, you're one of those "Feast and Dance are the worst ones" guy's 🥴

[@phils.4719]

I partially think the showrunners are "forced" to talk so heavy handed about patriarchy. Because the show is about how two Queens eff up the kingdom, kill nearly all the dragons, and almost end the family. Nothing says feminism better than massive eff ups with massive slaughter, right?

[@lobal2]

It's all about succession. How nasty it can and has gotten in real history. This story is just as messy as legitimizing bastards becomes. Don't really see this as feminism, even though martin is a self proclaimed feminist, the story so far is the girl was made the heir and will fight for the title she was given by her father and king.

[@angelofdeath450]

@@lobal2 in behind the scenes of episode 1, show runner literally said the purpose of the show was to fight the patriarchy

[@lobal2]

@@angelofdeath450 You do know how this story ends right? I would argue that the world of westeros and the stories in it, are the exact opposite of the type of story you would want to tell about fighting patriarchy. One where women's brazen actions and lack of diplomacy gets alot of people killed. Because every time it happens, a massive war breaks out, then some poor bastard is put on the throne and has to clean up the mess. Not just the shows but the books as well. If the showrunner said that, well, he should reconsider his words. Because they picked the wrong source material, if that is the case.

[@angelofdeath450]

@@lobal2 I’ve read this. I know this. Show runner did not.

[@variant_mc]

What do you mean "forced" to talk heavy handed about patriarchy? It's freakin Westeros it has always had patriarchal themes entwined into it. We saw in GoT and we see it in HotD. The whole Targaryen civil war started on the issue of succession, should a woman inherit before a man? There's no escaping the patriarchy issue. This is really not a pro feminism story (Both Rheanyra and Alicent do terrible, horrible things - neither side comes off good). Which makes all the folks who were calling it a "Woke disaster" before anyone saw a single episode look even more silly.

[@minkyfran8307]

I loved the first episode , but mainly because of Matt Smith, Paddy Considine and Rhys Ifans , they all gave good performances , the young actress playing Rhaenyra was also good , I’m remaining hopefull

[@uk1826]

So you liked most of the major characters still you had to say 'mainly because'

[@yannikakapralli]

For me, Matt Smith was the only good character in the first Episode. The others were all blend and boring.

[@cinqueqwerty]

@@yannikakapralli agree

[@jazztalking323]

name of the clip at the beginning of video

[@Mrs_Homemaker]

The birthing scene was not realistic for the time, if we are assuming roughly medieval care. With a breech baby she would have been up and moving (hell, with any baby in any position), and using a birthing chair or rope. Breech babies come out like any other baby. The show runners instead decided to put the modern "every breech baby should be a c-section" hospital rules. Did tragic things like cutting the baby out happen sometimes? Yes. But it wouldn't have been for a breech alone.

[@youngveteran6368]

Your expecting average show watchers to be intelligent enough to comprehend this………. See where you messed up???? These people are sheep and nothing more they just applaud when told, frown when told and get outraged when told. If the show runners say it’s like that then that’s how it is, critical thinking is a dying gem

[@mugglescakesniffer3943]

Seeing Doctor Who having sex broke my brain.

[@MeOutside]

HOD wasn’t nearly as bad as I was expecting. The writing leaves a bit to be desired but it’s got a solid cast. Matt Smith is a stand out in particular.

[@Pouncealot2023]

What about the writing is undesirable?

[@MeOutside]

I’m not saying it’s bad; I just think it GRR would have been a bit more involved we might have a better product. I’ll still watch it but i don’t think I’ll binge watch it multiple times like the first few seasons of GOT. Not a fan of the cgi dragons though. She Hulk is still garbage though. Holding my breath for Rings of Power. I’m a pessimist by nature so if it’’s not complete schite I’ll be okay with it.

[@Pouncealot2023]

@Me Outside but GRRM is involved...

[@jormungandr4690]

@@Pouncealot2023 So far everything is too predictable. GoT earlier season were fun, because everything could happen, but I am guessing this show will be more woke. The black guy and his wife and the princes will have plot armor and the most obnoxious dialogue imaginable.

[@Pouncealot2023]

@Jörmungandr but that’s how the book literally is...fo you want them to not follow the book or what is your point exactly

[@lordofentropy]

"Winds of Winter" is the literary equivalent of fusion power and flying cars.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

*Episode* *2* *Spoiler* *Alert* If "Matt Daemon" 😉 and Paddy stole the show in Ep 1, Milly stole it in Ep 2. She does have some traits of Daenerys. She doesn't mind confrontation. I like how she reacts when her father chooses Alicent as his bride be. Milly's reaction was priceless. It's called Rogue Prince but we actually don't see Daemon for more than 30 minutes into the episode. And when we do see him, his scene lasts about 5 minutes. Perhaps the best scene to me was between Rhaenyra and Rhaenys. The acting was superb from both actresses. I think Otto can be pretty savage. He threw some good lines at Daemon. He really hates Daemon. They really are arch rivals. Otto has no hesitation shaming Daemon in front of his brother. "Daemon's WHORE!" I also like how Otto and Alicent didn't really push back on Lord Corlys' daughter. If they did, it would look too obvious from the Hightowers what their ulterior motive is. I think Hot D is easier to follow than GOT because it doesn't jump to too many characters. It's focused on 2-3 characters and that's it. You can see their characters get fleshed out more. Paddy was magnificent in this episode as well. Viserys is a good man. Just not sure he's a great king as he hates confrontation that Daemon loves. While Daemon only wants approval from his brother. He's extremely loyal to his family. His blood relatives at least. You could download Ep 2. Was uploaded a few hours on Piratebay. You can watch the episode at least 12 hours before Pacific time sees it. It's a typically good episode. Usually Game of Thrones saves their best stuff for the 9th episode. Can't peak too early.

[@dom9041543]

I loved this episode. Watched it twice. Will watch it again tonight ☺️. Definitely enjoyed it more than episode 1.

[@killerbas40]

I actually like Milly as an actress alot, but remember since there will be time jumps, her character will also be played by a different actress(Emma D''arcy). Haven't heard from the new actress before but when i was searching i found this: ''D'Arcy is non-binary and uses they/them pronouns'', and while that doesn't mean she won't perform the role well, i can't help but think it will flop, because im done with the woke and fairytale bullshit and expect there to be more of it.

[@colepeltier8472]

Honestly I don't know why people are so hyped for HOT-D, It's seriously not even that good and when you pair it with the foul after taste of the last show its honestly forgettable.

[@Snoozerx]

Don’t kid yourself the only thing that’s delaying the books is that the guy that writes it doesn’t care about writing it anymore he’s a little bit lazy

[@thelaw6267]

Stop falling for it, people. You know how it ends.

[@lordofthecrings]

It’s surprisingly well done. Matt smith is magnetic and the Ramin Djiwadi score so far is even better than the OG series score. Just stop trying to tie it into Game of thrones so that I can pretend it’s a different universe

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

his score is not better than the OG series. not in a million shot. the Dany and Starks themes alone trumps everything.

[@a_roderick1153]

Pretty hypocritical first few mins. Can’t make fun of talking thrones and other thrones YT channels only to end with “I’ll be going live after every episode”.

[@conalking8739]

Ralf Fiennes wasn't in this? Otto is played by Rhys Ifans

[@O4OTIS]

Didn’t you say this show would be a “woke” disaster? That was just two weeks ago smh.

[@Thomas.Wright]

Yes, he did. BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE SHOW'S CREATORS WERE MARKETING IT. They're still trying to, in fact, with that fake claim that the birthing scene had anything to do with abortion. But here's what you should be paying attention to: once the show came out, and it wasn't what he expected, he changed his mind about it. See how that works?

[@thecompilationcity6063]

I like the show Im actually exited for the next episode.

[@blondymonk1535]

Me too, it was a very solid beginning...

[@Thiazzi0]

Agreed

[@mattgalley8587]

I thought it was pretty good aswell I'm at least going to watch a few episodes before giving my option?i like this channel but sorry don't get the hate here?yet

[@akuma6446]

Episode 2 will ruin that for you. Ungodly bad. House of the Cucks!

[@NA.NA..]

Its been leaked. Its worse than last episode. Rhaynera and rhaynes are extremely cringe. Litterally everything is great except for anything with these 2, the only problem being they are 40% of the episode. Rhaynera keeps interrupting and interceding on behalf of her father and she is cringe. The scene with the laenea and the king is kinda funny in its absurdity.

[@erichtomanek4739]

Frankly the wokeness and diversity hires wreck it. Just as I am getting into the show, they rip me out with a groan of anguish.

[@SeeFair23]

There isn’t any wokeness other than in your minds. A pure fantasy story.

[@abdulla10955]

what a sad way to live life

[@romeocastillo316]

Poor you snowflake. Go open a box of crackers and maybe you will fell better while you watch the inside?

[@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177]

Same it just doesn’t fit it in with the era it takes you out of the immersion and makes it feel like something modern from these times wich doesn’t help the show at all I’ve always loved movies of this genre as a kid and I never felt the need to see people who look like me in the screen I just appreciated well made films like Alexander,kingdom of heaven,Rome,Troy,lord of the rings ect there’s a place for diversity but it’s not in this genre it just doesn’t work

[@jada9401]

@@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177 seeing black ppl on screen must really scare y’all

[@pyromagic7113]

I haven't watched it but I'm curious to know if the Rastafarian Targaryen gets any racial abuse. I mean if Tyrion gets shit for being a dwarf what the fuck is going to happen with the only black dude in Westeros.

[@ShallowDepression]

Oh, it's hinted in the first 10 minutes.

[@pg1448]

It won't even be adressed because the character is not meant to be black in the books. On the other hand skin color wasn't that much of a big deal in the middle ages or antiquity, people discriminated way more based on class or religion than race. In europe some cities even have black people on their heraldry so it seems they weren't seen as a lesser race. Also Westeros already experienced the migration of the andals and they are currently ruled by a dynasty that came from a completely foreign culture, so if that doesn't bother them, race is most likely not an issue either.

[@romeocastillo316]

@@pg1448 they know all that, they just want to be aholes

[@tanweerbeckett2301]

In GRRMs world, racism is mainly based on culture and weirdly, hair and eye colour. Not skin colour. The GOT series took out so many characters of colour. For example Tyrion would notice black people in the port cities of Westeros like King Landing. Tommen has a prince (from the Summer Islands) as a guest at court. What I’ve seen so far from HOTD, the reintroduced the concept of the port cities being more diverse than the rest of Westeros.

[@romeocastillo316]

"Racial abuse"? Do you mean racism? You guys can't even write the word lol but you sure enjoy practicing it

[@verasc5555]

I CAN'T with this intro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@-zSoloSz-]

glidus should've been in the corner singing 🤣 love that guy!

[@georgehouliaras7239]

I've heard good things about the show so let's take some bets: How long before they woke it up? I give it 1 Season, 2 at best.

[@mickeymickey9914]

Episode 2

[@pass-the-juice]

happened in the first ep, but 90% was good

[@bluecollarloser6654]

If their smart they won't be SO heavy on it. Episode 1 wasn't even woke in the sense it had some strange dialogue choices. But the action and gore and themes are there. Maybe they will learn from season 8. Time will tell

[@rayweaver8295]

They race swapped a character when it made absolutely no sense at all to do so . It's already woke.

[@dom9041543]

Lol y’all all sound miserable and triggered. Y’all are no better than “woke” people. Instead of wondering about the plot lines all you are think about is your political agenda so you can push it on others. “I wonder how long it will be before it’s woke?” Lol you are looking to be entertained you are looking to be triggered. “Anti woke” people are no different tha “woke” people. Please don’t watch the show.

[@MisterCross]

I read the book when it first came out. I have zero memory of it except for lots of dragon riding. Wake me up when The Winds of Winter is out, if I'm still alive, then I might get around to this. Until then I'll love watching your reviews, Gary. Feeling:

[@brandongray1059]

Not watching this show for a couple reasons - the race swapping and since it still leads to S8 GoT there's no point in watching it, knowing how badly it ends.

[@romeocastillo316]

LMAO whine

[@paulthomas4908]

“Oh mah gerd…. Bleck people!”

[@JL-yq9xn]

@@paulthomas4908 “Oh mah gerd… not enough black people in European fantasies!!!”

[@paulthomas4908]

@@JL-yq9xn Didn’t know Essos was meant to be Europe. 🙄

[@danielmedina8332]

@@JL-yq9xn to be fair, Velaryons mixed with Summer Isles' people too. It's stupid to think that all Valyrians remained pure, specially when you are escaping your doomed city and trying to create a new life somewhere else and not having dragons.

[@xotem]

12:30 "We have no idea why Agon wanted to conquer Westeros." ............ The Last Storm King was at war and wish to enlist the help of Agons Dragons. For this he offered Agon Lands did not own and a wife Agon did not need. Agon suggested The Storm Kings daughter marry his best friend and suspected half brother Orys.... Agon sent an embassy to Wich they were send back their hands in a basket with a note that read... "These are the only hands you Bastard will have of me" -The Last Storm King This was the pretext for war. After receiving the letter Agon sent his own letters to all the corners of the Kingdom. "From this day forth Westoros will be ruled by a single house. House Targaryen. Those who bend the knee with retain their lands and titles. Those who do not, Will be thrown down, humbled and destroyed." -Agon Targaryen You know whats a bigger mystery??? Why did House Targaryen adopt the customs of the Andel knights instead of traditional Valyrian customs???? There were no "Knights" in old Valyria, No sigils, None of that.... The three headed sigil of House Targayran was adopted hundreds of years AFTER the landing at Dragon stone. ............ - FUK this show Tell us again how we "don't know" why Agon conquered Westeros. This si what happens when you don't read the books, only watch the show and are trying to do a contextual comparison with the spark notes you ripped off a subb reddit. Youre whole fkin job is to get this sh*t right but instead you sit and tell us SH*T we already know... There is no new knowledge to be gained in your videos.

[@johnblack8655]

Ralph Fiennes is a Faceless Man in this one, masquerading as Rhys Ifans... (come on, man - you're sharper than that).

[@pederhalvorsen2289]

"Still not enough to wash away the stain of season 8". Very well said Gary. 👏👏👏👏 I went into the show expecting to hate it, (I assumed that it would be stuffed to the gills with woke preaching) so I was pleasantly surprised when I found myself enjoying it, a few virtue signaling moments notwithstanding. I'm looking forward to the next episode, however I still have something Gary said on an episode of FNT running through my mind: "It's not how you start, it's how you FINISH" . . . . there's still plenty of time for the show to go into full cringe preaching mode, and I really don't have much faith that HBO will prevent that from happening.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

*The* *Spoils* *of* *War* *(S7E4)* I suggest for people to rewatch Sean TankTops/Burlington Bar's reaction to the final minutes to this episode. I watched it after not seeing it in over 5 years. It was so fun to see all the surprised faces again. It's amazing to watch so many people cheering when they first see Daenerys riding on Drogon but then started to worry if Jaime and Bronn were going to die? I never seen that crowd so glued to the screen and so anxious with divided feelings. That episode used to be my favorite GOT episode. Yes, even over Battle of the Bastards. But over the years, I realized it's similar to Hardhome where it's spectacular the final minutes but that's it. I have it still in my top 5 and higher than fan favs like Castamere and TWOW. The Spoils of War is actually responsible for me subbing to reactors like Sesskasays and Imon Snow while The Rains of Castamere drove my curiosity towards KZbin reactions. I think The Spoils of War might still have the most anxious moments ever seen from GOT. Do they root for Dany and hope Jaime and Bronn escape? In retrospect, I think if Jaime had died in that episode, I don't think it would make a huge impact afterwards because he was essentially useless after his hand got cut off in S3. But he became such a huge fan favorite by S3, we were all rooting for him to live which obviously didn't happen prior to the series finale. It's actually symbolic. Jaime kills The Mad King and his daughter avenges it by Drogon roasting the Kingslayer. But at the time, many of us were panicking if Jaime was going to survive. He carried enough plot armor when he sank underwater. Bronn saved another Lannister brother from dying by pushing him off the horse. I suggest to watch the reactions of Burlington Bar and Imon Snow of this episode. Sesskasays no longer has her's there but it's similar to Imon's. She was screaming for Jaime. They're still fantastic reactions after all these years.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

It's 2022. We've all watched these reactions. And yea seeing what happened with him afterwards, it would have been better had Jaime died there. And then you would have had Tyrion pissed at Dany and maybe turn on her.

[@ams914]

Nobody objective can say it's a bad pilot. You can bitch and moan about what's different from the books, but that's not the same as a pilot not being good. I found it a little boring, but they obviously don't need to rush given how this world has already been established. It's the next few episodes that will determine whether or not I like the show.

[@strathan09]

Nerdroctic is the saltiest saddest old fart on all of KZbin

[@leagleye]

"The Hand" actor is Rhys Ifans, NOT Ralph Fiennes. Other than that...great video as always. Keep up the good work!

[@PlacidDragon]

I just found it painfully mediocre myself.. the scenery and CGI is good.. but the acting is middling, bordering on downright painful at times... the writing seems mediocre, the direction was obviously going for "we need boobs because this is GoT, but keep them as hidden as possible, and ramp up the violence and gore to 11.. and throw in a graphic birth scene as well, because misogyny". I dont know if people think this is good because they are starved for something that could even marginally pass as "ok" (ref the Mandalorian, which is a mediocre show, but by virtue of being lightyears ahead of anything else Lucasarts / Disney has done, it is perceived as "excellent")... nah.. the bar has been lowered so much that unless its instantly recognized as utter garbage, its hailed as the best thing since sliced bread....bah :)

[@thedemonhater7748]

The acting his middling? Are you touched in the head? Paddy Constantine and Matt Smith’s performances were fucking incredible, Emily Carey and Milly Alcock perfectly captured the BFF energy they were going for. There wasn’t a single performance that was actually bad. Yeah, there were a few stupid scenes, but the fact that you’d look at that birth scene as “Muh misogyny” when the entire show is a commentary about men and women’s roles in a medieval society and how unfair it is shows how little you understand any of it. It’s like anything that you mildly perceive as “the woke” automatically makes it shit.

[@blondymonk1535]

Ok bro... You're just hating... This was VERY solid... It has immense potential...

[@torlandobx9671]

Its literally the same song & dance. At some point your just done.

[@PlacidDragon]

@@thedemonhater7748 This has nothing to do with "wokeness". The acting was sh*t from practically everyone, very mechanical, stilted, and so on (i'll except Matt Smith from that, he played Jamie Lannister pretty well). Let me share a couple of lines from a review (of the first 6 episodes) from Norways second biggest newspaper (the only review i think, who didn't massively fawn over the series.. of the ones i read anyway) : - "Every character walks around with what must be a Valyrian steel jumbo sized rectal thermometer, and seem to be contractually obligated from showing any individuality or personality whatsoever". - "Paddy Considine is the most "out of place" character in the entire series. With his constant 3 day beard, Paddy shares little resemblance to a middle ages king, and looks more like your out of work uncle who staggered by the pub on his way to a carnival dressed in a Legolas constume thats been through the wash far too many times". I'd say a variation of that myself, but this just says it better than i ever could :)

[@PlacidDragon]

@@blondymonk1535 I am far more skeptical than you, but if you liked it, great. I am happy for you :)

[@tomharrington1453]

Before we get too excited, remember Game of Thrones started out great, too. Starting a story is one thing. Creating a satisfying conclusion is another issue entirely.

[@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177]

Shit hasn’t even started and it’s already woke garbage haha lord daquan has called on bob Marley for reinforcements

[@lobal2]

There are no dragons by the start of GoT. There are more than a dozen at the start of this story. What do you think happened to the dragons?

[@gabyzzeetoon4516]

D&d fault, they rushed it to get on Disney Star wars.. no kidding

[@sylon7717]

Great? It’s terrible. I struggled to finish it.

[@tomharrington1453]

@@sylon7717 I am with you on that. After a while the plot seemed to break down into a petty, spiteful contest of "I want to be the evil psychopath to sit on that cursed throne and visit wanton cruelty on innocent people!" I found myself rooting for no one.

[@Fenixx117]

Uploaded 7 seconds ago? Alright! It was pretty decent from what I saw in E01. Hope it doesn't go downhill too much

[@Itisoverthere-rw]

Maegor was called "the Cruel" because he broke the power of the Faith. He wasn't a bad king. He replaced his weakling of a brother and he used the power in his hand to secure the position of his house. Was he too violent and a psycho? Was he a bad king? Not really. He was a violent guy defending himself and his family and the Faith and the maesters ruined his reputation because he recognised them for what they were.

[@JasperLane]

Its an honor to be featured at 0:11, thank you very much Nerdrotic.

[@AlexBB77]

The Aegon I knowing about the prophecy of the Others and part of the reason he conquered Westeros idea is from GRRM. Condal has confirmed as such and the first time hearing about this was from GRRM a couple years ago when he said it while promoting the release of F&B , though he framed it in a more speculative way. That idea is from GRRM but that reveal adds very little to the Dance of the Dragons conflict and mainly ties HotD into the main series / GoT. Personally do not think it was needed to be included at all or at least not the way they chose to do it. Let this show shape its own identity and why remind and connect HotD to GoT so obviously in E1. Yes the concept is from GRRM but including it how and when they did (E1) is a bit questionable.

[@DillsyYourDaddy67]

I believe the inclusion of it was something that George fully intended for the books but D&D cut it out of the show. I believe this is his way of correcting that wrong. Although it doesn't change GoT ending, I recall a few people saying George has came out and said that Season 5+ started gradually getting further and further from his books story

[@AlexBB77]

@@DillsyYourDaddy67 yes it is from GRRM as i mentioned in my comment , so quite possible we get this reveal in the main series novels or any of the other in-universe books / novellas etc. And yes more and more with his blog and public comments GRRM is distancing himself from the later seasons of GoT. But given HotD's show-runners talking about continuity with GoT its even stranger to include this given the Others / White Walkers were not destroyed by anything the Targaryens / Dany specifically did. The dragons were surprisingly ineffective against the White Walkers in fact , in the show canon anyway. And Aegon I's Conquest / the particulars of it were not really delved into in GoT either. In this show revealing such does not really add anything to the story and not related or affect anything. Only really connects and reminds many of later GoT which many people want to forget and move on from. Seems much more appropriate for an Aegon's Conquest concept on screen or to be revealed in the books. Does not really fit or add anything and really not relevant at all to this concept. The Dance of the Dragons is about a familial struggle and civil war. Everything centers around this strife and conflict which leads to the decline of the Targaryens. Just seems strange to me to even include for me but also to do so, so bluntly in E1. May come up again this season but will likely continue to seem as out of place and not particularly relevant to the DotD narrative.

[@byrongrimsley500]

What's crazy is the very same people who talk about not likeing shows about feminism and all the woke are the same very people they can't wait to watch the next episode of House of Targaryen

[@JSPena]

That part from Doom Patrol was funny. 🤣🤣🤣

[@ibeg1951]

What does sapocnik s interview have to do with the show??? Who cares what he says or how they market it? Was the scene good or not? Last scene...It is not a changing of the book...george hinted it in numerous interviews

[@S-T-E-V-E]

7:05 That's not Ralph Fiennes Gary! It's Rhys Ifans! 😂🤣😂

[@jasonvaughn4886]

Great review Gary, just one thing: You said Ralph Fiennes, but you I think you meant Rhys Ifans (the actor who plays Otto Highttower). Rhys is Welsh, so his name sounds a bit different. Based on what I saw from the first episode, this has a darker, more authentic gothic vibe than Game of Thrones ever did. The dialogue is clearly more restrained and sparse.The cinematography, too, is wonderful. I think the show got off to a great start (or at the very least a promising one).

[@S-T-E-V-E]

Ah someone else noticed! It's like the time he thought Kal Penn from Harold and Kumar get the Munches was in The Eternals! 😂 When it was Kumail Nanjiani!

[@sitcomchristian6886]

Thank you! I'm not familiar with the actor, but I was struggling to see Ralph Fiennes here lol like "are you sure that's him??"

[@jasonvaughn4886]

@@sitcomchristian6886 Yes, he's a great actor in his own right (been in a lot of films from Notting Hill to the Amazing Spiderman). I really like him as Otto Hightower.

[@simons4474]

@@jasonvaughn4886 You can’t forget twin town!

[@jasonvaughn4886]

@@simons4474 Haven't seen it. Checked it out on IMDB, and it looks like a British-type comedy like Trainspotting or the Full Monty?

[@Pokemonashgreen2]

I enjoyed the first episode, had good pasting. Performance were very good except for some side characters. I do agree if they split the house duel and the birthing screen. The drama would hit pretty hard.

[@towelman8589]

I thought the first episode was really good too. I'm tired of people saying "it's the wokest show ever!!". Doesn't seem woke to me.. YET! Perhaps tonight's episode will be woke af but ep. 1 was good imo.

[@anotherhappylanding4746]

@@towelman8589 the only thing they've done is race swapped corlys velaryon, but the guy playing him Steve toussaint is doing a really good job so I don't mind

[@daviscarl3766]

The queen never breathed as a character, all her scenes she was pregnant: making the time spent on her death lose a little bit of punch, hence making Viserys' outbursts and daemons exile feel childish.

[@towelman8589]

@@anotherhappylanding4746 Agree with you 100%. He looks very out of place BUT he is one of the best actors in the show.

[@ricktheexplorer]

What was most telling was GRRM in the preview saying these writers are doing him right (as opposed to the others).

[@Garoslol]

The others were out of books to use lol.

[@tmbfreak_16]

It's really hard for me to say if House of the Dragon or Rings of Power is worse, I hate them both

[@-scorpionox-]

Sounds like you have a miserable existence

[@mnomadvfx]

Nooooo - Otto Hightower is played by Welsh actor Rhys Ifans. NOT Ray Fiennes.

[@vanessalore9942]

Gary, the Aegon thing was George’s idea that he told them. Make of that what you will, lol I never really cared about the Whitewalkers, anyway, tbh. The wall bored me. I’m watching this for Matt. I want the win for him

[@eastbow6053]

in the books they were like magical ice elves they completely fucked them up in the series

[@a.r.mproductions5616]

I like it so far. It’s not the same as the first season of game of thrones but it has potential. However I have low expectations.

[@hokiebuddy]

Don’t forget the show runners and actors said this show is going to take on the “patriarchy” and the daily mail said an insider portrayed this show as “women good and men bad”. So don’t get too confident this show is ‘good’ yet. People surrounding this show said it’s going to be game of woke.

[@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177]

They targeted a huge woke audience I think those are the only kind of people who can enjoy this show really diversity in these kind of shows just doesn’t work just look at that Robin Hood movie with Jamie fox absolutely NOBODY remembers that movie hahahaha

[@PrinceIsot]

@@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177 stfu if you haven't seen it

[@ethandalton6480]

@@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177 I find it unlikely that if the show flops, the reason will be because some of the characters aren't lore-accurate.

[@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177]

@@ethandalton6480 it won’t affect it to much for the sole reason that people gobble everything big studios put out no matter the quality and also because we have been kept so deprived of good shows the people will watch it regardless if it’s good or bad

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@@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177 it won't effect it because normal people don't obsess over what people look like

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"Objectivity is objective, in my subjective opinion." -Bilbo Baggins

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According to Variety, House of the Dragon is averaging 29 million viewers over the course of its first five episodes. The statistic was determined by combining Nielsen ratings with streaming viewership across HBO Max and other platforms.

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9:30 - "They're all green, none of them have seen a real war." While the guy get's his skull caved in and brains splattered by a shield. ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLRIGHTY then.