The U.S. Navy's Greatest Defeat: The Battle of Savo Island, 1942 - Animated

[@HoH]

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[@arnijulian6241]

Ernest king is likely the most inept incompetent Admiral of ww2. He is worth studying to know what not to do! Admiral King prise that disregarded the royal navies recommendation of costal city blackout against German shipping on the east coast cost so much shipping & sailors. Admiral Chester W. Nimitz was a very capable before every one gets upset. Admiral Nimitz compared to admiral king is the greatest contrast of commander in capability of any force on the same side. How Ernest king was promoted to Fleet Admiral in 1944 is always what confused me. If Nimitz was not present in the pacific; I'd suspect that theatre would have been far harder won taking at least 2 more years to wrap up!

[@arnijulian6241]

You know what 'Richmond Kelly Turner' might be worse then 'Admiral Ernest King' but it close one! It shows the might of USA industry just by the fact they could win with these to high positions. US's Navy shot themselves in the leg & still cam out on top. Truly bewildering!

[@hotstepper887]

All we find all throughout USA history, is the USA at war, wars they caused purposely, and wars they nearly always lost. Yet we read the American people talking like they've some incredible military record, like the British? Why is this, when the actual facts prove the Americans completely wrong? The United States has one of the very worst, and easily, the most cowardly military record of any country on earth. Yet, reading the Americans, we could be forgiven for thinking they're awesome at fighting wars! The United States was founded in 1776, and she's been at war for 228 of her 248 calendar years of her existence. In other words, there are only 20 calendar years, in which the U.S. has not waged any wars. The Wars waged have never been against any militarily capable country, but only countries that we're once considered the Third World. Any resistance from those countries, nearly always saw the USA lose! Pick any year since 1776, and there's a 91% chance the USA was involved in a war, during that calendar year, and there's a 73% chance they lost it. No U.S. president truly qualifies as a peacetime president, but, all U.S. presidents are technically “war presidents.” The U.S.A. has never gone for a decade without war. The only time the U.S. went five years without a war (1937-42) was during the isolationist period of the Great Depression. Since the 2nd World War, the USA has started 207 armed conflicts, resulting with approx, 60-70 million (mostly civilian casualties). And only ever based on false premises, lies/propaganda in other words, and they've failed in most. This is more than 2 conflicts, started based on nothing more than lies and propaganda, per year. And that's just shocking, it's terrible, and it's appalling! And yet we read these people today, hilariously, wanting to take on Russia? I mean, sure! In fact, go on, then! Stop talking about it, and do it! It's easy! The British and French did it! And you don't even need to believe me, as you could just ask the Mongol's Golden Hoard, how they ended up, fighting Russia? You could ask the Ottoman Empire, how well they got on against Russia? Of course, you could also ask Napoleon, just how well how he faired?? Or failing all of them, you could even ask Hitler, how well he did against Russia?. The USA has never met a fully militarily capable country in war, the USA struggles against many non-military capable countries all the time, man! They've even lost to non-military capable countries, and even just militia groups, all throughout their terrible history of fighting wars, they're absolutely useless at fighting wars! The worst at it!

[@hotstepper887]

Reminder... Beaten, and loses in Vietnam, after using chemical weapons, Napalm, both Agent Orange, and Agent Blue, while burning down entire towns and villages, killing hundreds of thousands of women and children, while losing the war against a bunch of tunnel kids, they tried to burn alive! When a million Chinese ran over the hill in Korea?, they fled and got chased back behind the 38th parallel, then gets out of the War, with a "face-saving" armistice. Thought they'd force China to purchase their opium, in the 2nd opium war, yet is the only one defeated by China, as both the British and French had won convincing victories, while the USA, humiliated, and well defeated, had to limp home, all alone. Fought for a mere 28 months in WW2, and comically, for years, claimed it was because of the USA we won the War. When all the facts say the exact opposite. It's not even up for debate. If Britain and the USSR had not fought WW2?, the USA would no longer exist. Yet unbelievably they still try to claim the same today?, (with their propaganda history, they've all been spoon-fed from birth, as if a real part of their history). Claimed they forced the USSR to remove its Cuban missiles, (or they had threatened war)? While the truth is, that it was the USA that was forced to remove their missiles, and close down their military base in Turkey, (before the USSR would agree to remove their Cuban missiles). The complete opposite of what they all got taught. Claimed Japan surrendered after the second nuclear bomb?, when we now know today, that was, guess what? You got it, just another American lie. Japan had ignored the first Nuclear attack, they also ignored the second Nuclear attack, and Japan only surrendered after Stalin had kept his promise to Invade East Asia, and the Soviets had crushed the Japanese. That alone, removed any hope the Japs had of getting Stalin to act as a mediator for a conditional surrender, and it was only then, the Japanese surrendered (as we now can read from the people of the time). The timing of the surrender proves It, the USA forgot the time difference, when they made that claim, It was indeed, just another American lie, and is still, to this day, by far, the most cowardly act ever committed by any country on earth. The USA really thought they bossed Syria, (with their bought and paid for terrorism), only to then have to sit back, and watch Russia kick their terrorist's to pieces, over and over again, while the USA were helpless to even resist it, and so instead, they resorted to, once again, more lies, more criminal attacks on the legitimate leadership of a sovereign country. Thought they'd show Russia, (as they supplied Georgia with their military assistance), that turned out to be, more like a hindrance, as they had to watch Russia annihilate and destroy, all the military equipment they'd just given away, every single piece, exactly like we see them doing today, in Ukraine. They've destroyed and ruined the lives of an entire country (again), Ukraine this time, with once again, more of their..... Yep, you've guessed it, more lies, more supplying weapons to criminals, terrorists and even Na*is, while only working against all the interests of the Ukrainian people, and still are, while pathetically trying to blame it on Russia. They claimed they'd kick the Taliban's ass (inside 3 months)... The USA = A trillion dollars worth of "super hi tech", military hardware. Vs The Taliban = A dollars worth of military hardware. Old, broken, rusty AK-47s, the Soviets dumped and left behind, oh, and not to forget, all those homemade IED's. 20 years after the USA claimed they were going to kick the Taliban's asses inside three months, the Taliban hold more ground today, than they ever have, and the Americans, as always, all got sent home! The USA struggles against the Taliban and many other non-militarily capable countries, man! Personally, I give the USA, precisely zero chance against Russia, or China, or Iran, or even N. Korea, let alone both Russia and China as allies? Who are these people fooling apart from themselves?

[@hotstepper887]

The hidden truth of WW2 is, the American people themselves supported Germany, and millions of them protested against becoming an ally of Britain.

[@lomax343]

I read somewhere that at least one US ship picked up the advancing Japanese ships on their radar, but since radar was very new to them, their captain declined to act upon the information until it was confirmed by visual sighting - by which time it was too late.

[@freddiefredson1754]

That would be Capt Bode on the Chicago, he was force commander while Crutchly was at the conference. He believed it worked like a search light and that the Japanese would be able to see it so he ordered them turned off then went sleep without letting Canberra know.

[@christianhaupt2637]

@@freddiefredson1754It angers me greatly that men who choose to be so willfully ignorant and uneducated cost so many lives. So so many lives could have potentially been saved had these men’s careers been stopped prior to command, yet their lies the problem. During peacetime militaries and navies alike, like men who follow orders, don’t question orders, and don’t deviate from the original plan and SOPs, so we have to learn all the mistakes the hard way and only then the men who’s careers were most likely stunted due to their “disobedience” and unwillingness to accept the status quo become the hero’s.

[@karlheinzvonkroemann2217]

The Japanese were just excellent at naval night time combat, had excellent torpedoes, that totally outclassed ours and in this battle they took us to school!

[@14Rocket]

The Japanese were also detected by US air reconnaissance by the army, but because of bureaucratic bull crap because of MacArthur, a warning that could have reached them like 11 hours in advance didn't reach them until it was too late. A few of the ships and the highest ranking officers in the operational area were actually at a meeting because they had just gotten word about the Japanese being spotted by the army 11 hours prior.

[@Holland41]

That was the destroyer USS Blue which came within spitting distance of the Japanese ships without seeing them.

[@PeterOConnell-pq6io]

A textbook example of how a related series of minor failures (reconnaissance), inexperience (communication), overconfidence (they wouldn't dare attack us), fatigue (48+ hours on high alert) pure bad luck (Turner's leadership's staff meeting, defeat in detail (night attack on split up defenses) can synergize into a major disaster. If Mikawa had been aware Fletcher had already withdrawn his carriers, and that he was free to turn his guns on the transport fleet, it would have been a catastrophe. Since no good deal goes unpunished, Mikawa's failure to do so ended up getting him relieved.

[@Wayne.J]

Mikawa wasn't relieved. He led the 8th Fleet for another 8 months and was promoted to 2nd Southern Expedition Fleet based at Manila in late 1943 and promoted again to run the whole South West Fleet at Manila in mid 1944. Battle wise... Firstly, Mikawa had to sort permission to sortie from Naval General Staff in the first place. He assumed he would get it, and left Rabaul on the sortie The NGS could have denied him his requestand he would need to return to Rabaul. He took a gamble so he was lucky he got that far. Secondly, they couldn't really turn around and form up again [in the dark no less], it would take at least an hour, that's 3am and need circle around Savo again and then face Australia, Hobart, San Juan and between 6-8 destroyers, all alert and ready before they reach the transports. Then after removing that guarding force without apparently any damage, they need to attack the transports at what dawn (6am) because they would be high tailing it out of their slowly to Noumeaafter 4 or 5 am. And the cruisers don't have limitless shells or torpedoes, they would be running low. After that, he was assuming the carrier/s would attack him. Mikawa was in Kido Butai at Midway as ComBatDiv3 when the 4 carriers went down and would have 1st hand knowledge of how lethal SBDs are Thirdly, the Astoria hit had destroyed the chart room and they couldn't navigate in restricted waters with no maps. If they beached Chokai or worse 2 or more ships after sinking 4 cruisers, the "draw" result would have been a calamity for IJN long term.

[@PeterOConnell-pq6io]

@@Wayne.J You're correct about the delay, but given Yamamoto's Monday morning quarterback view that since Flrtcher had withdrawn his carriers, Mikawa could have gotten away with the apparent suicide mission of taking out the transport fleet, I suspect Mikawa's promotion was the IJN equivalent of getting kicked upstairs, if not getting put in command of a weather station located someplace like Attu, or Kiska.

[@Wayne.J]

@@PeterOConnell-pq6io He was in every battle in the Solomons bar Cape Esperance He bombarded Guadalcanal a lot of times. He was rewarded with South West Area command no doubt from his heavy involvement and risking his life numerous times in Solomons. The only equivalent posting was South East Area Fleet (which was bypassed by then), North East Area Fleet (which had no islands to defend) and later 10th Area Fleet (after Manila was captured) He was more or less equal to Combined Fleet without the big fleet units or the Naval Districts in Japan. Forgot to mention, he was made School Master of Torpedo School after his 8th Fleet assignment. Pretty important role teaching the Fleet about torpedoes and tactics he learnt in the south. All rewards.

[@PeterOConnell-pq6io]

@@Wayne.JI'm not trying to argue with you. My sense of Mkawa's fate is my read beteen the lines opinion based on IJN politics. All these battles took place during the 8 month period you'd already mentioned. Makawa seemingly vanished into thin air, never to be heard from again, sometime between Guadalcanal and the IJN"s 1943 Empress Augusta Bay attempt to counter the US Bougainville landings. His replacement duly adopted Mikawa's Savo Island plan,.only to get his ass kicked in a night engagement with the higher than average slope learning curve USN.

[@CorePathway]

Mikawa’s reluctance to push his advantage would be mirrored by Center Force off Leyte. Japanese Army troops were all about the Banzai charge. Their navy not so much.

[@hansspiegl8684]

Danke!

[@HoH]

Thank you!

[@Jadegreif]

The battle animations were well done. What I missed: Emphasis on the fact that at this point in the war IJN had very good night fighting capabilities, much better then the US thought they were capable of. And I would have liked a few more thoughts on Mikawas choice to retreat instead of going for the transports and the effects if he would have pressed the attack.

[@anthonykeane4984]

Mikawa was conscious of being caught in daylight by carrier aircraft . He had no idea the carriers were out of range . His information was a couple of days out of date . Obviously in hindsight he made the wrong decision the carriers were well out of range

[@tacticalclochard]

It's faulty Japanese doctrine. It made him think he achieved his mission by devastating the enemy combat fleet. He should have seen the broader picture and decide that getting to the transports was worth his whole command.

[@KHK001]

Another amazing video!

[@barsnack7999]

Forgot to mention it could've been much worse if Mikawa decided to strike the transports

[@bkjeong4302]

Part of that was the fact all the charts showing him where to go got destroyed in that bridge hit.

[@tacticalclochard]

Agree. The presentation falls short by remaining focused on a tactical minute by minute portrayal.

[@JRyan-lu5im]

@@tacticalclochard The point is the narrative is about the facts as they where, not the speculative, "well if he...". Most watching this know of the missed opportunity, but also fail to correlate that this was off the heels of the disastrous Midway battle. Assuming Mikawa did face a carrier group, he'd have been responsible for turning a victory into another disaster.

[@hazchemel]

​@@JRyan-lu5imwell said. It was a 15 minute audio visual presentation of a confused battle, and books are written on only aspects of the battle. There were so many factors connected to the battle, but the script here continued its way very well amidst numerous shoals of substantial and alluring temptation. Thinking about the guys who actually made this video, artistic education, and the infinite number of very crucial decisions necessary just to proceed to completion, I'm kinda proud of them, as if they were my sons.

[@toonsis]

It was not his mission, and he had to be out of aircraft range by dawn. He had no way of knowing Fletcher left the area. The Japanese army also wanted a fight and said it could defeat the American marines. Defeating the navy at Hawaii and the Marines at the Solomons would hopefully win the war in the 2 year window they had planned for.

[@jamesfagan9818]

Your picture of Frank Jack Fletcher at 2:25 is actually Admiral Kinkaid

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Thanks For this House of History! Never miss a video of Yours❤❤❤❤

[@bradkempton7905]

When your battle plan works so good that you're convinced it's a trap....

[@69Applekrate]

nicely done. Have read numerous books on the subject and learned a lot. This video added to that- recommended.

[@daniellucas1494]

Another excellent post sir - well done yet again!

[@franksposato6072]

Whenever you finally get to the Nov 13th Cruiser action, I hope you have the chance to first read Robert Lundgren's Article because it is the newest in depth look at exactly happened in the fight with many newer undiscussed details that are very interesting. Thank you for making these.

[@hazchemel]

Though expounded by savant Homer Simpson, that to ensure nobody ever makes a mistake, and no personal danger is ever ventured that Bart should never do anything, .... even so forewarned you have made a brilliant battle video. Many thanks and encore :)

[@SamBroadway]

Good video! But, I still miss the coffee cup and the big desk

[@mikewilson3169]

Well done! It would be great if you follow up with the videos of the subsequent naval battles of the Guadalcanal campaign.

[@HoH]

That's the plan!

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

It was a wonderful historical coverage episode about Japanese naval assaults (victory)in 1942 in Savo Islands on Allies fleets defeated ...thank you 🙏 (house of history )channel ..

[@johnomeara7240]

My father was on the Astoria. He rarely talked about his warm time experiences but he was lucky enough to get off the ship onto a raft. After hours in the raft and later in the water he was picked up by a destroyer. He did say that the kapok life jacket was almost completely water logged by the time he was rescued.

[@eri3726]

Technically HMAS Canberra was Australian not American but otherwise great content, keep up the good work.

[@duanetapp1280]

You mean the Cranberra😂

[@vf-114jock2]

@@duanetapp1280 NO ITS CANBERRA

[@duanetapp1280]

@@vf-114jock2 I know but check 6.40 of the video.

[@vf-114jock2]

@@duanetapp1280 The ship is spelled Cranberra ???

[@robtapp6400]

@@duanetapp1280 I came to see if anyone else noticed the misspelling of the ship name. Nice name you got there, too, duanetapp1280 🙂

[@maryoung33]

Thank You for all your videos

[@AnimatedWarMapper]

Great episode!

[@sheperdprice5458]

Enemy spy planes, tremors in the water, search lights, plane flares... Greenman: "mmmm... It's probably nothing haha" *Gets hit* "mmmmm..... Probably friendly fire. Let's ceasefire ourselves" 💀

[@freddiefredson1754]

The subsequent investigation put alot of blame on Capt Bode on the Chicago as he was acting commander and had orderred the radars turned off as thought it worked like a search light and the Japanese would be able to track them, aswell as taking Chicago north out of the fight without sending any warnings. He subsiquently commited sucide. It was also found that USN battle station procedures caused alot of problems as crew had to change stations, some of which maybe at the other end of the ship, compared to RNAS which followered RN procedures that all stations are the same no matter what, which is why Canberre reacted so quickly.

[@Wayne.J]

The Southern battle literally was the other way round, Canberra reacted while Chicago sailed on oblivious to what was happening until torpedoed

[@anthonykeane4984]

Because of battles like this and every battle of ww2 the usn rapidly modernised and more importantly professionalised. Inquiries into everything to the minute detail were analysed by teams after every engagement. What went right what went wrong . They became incredibly efficient at destroying enemies . Harsh defeats teaches harsh lessons

[@julio5prado]

Excelent

[@KhalilTheHistorian]

Amazing video, i like the animated battle map.

[@CHIPSSALTY]

US lost 4 heavy crusiers: Whatever they are replaceable Japan: If you lose any heavy cruiser, they will never be replaced. This is why he never went further to chase the supply ships. This mission was always going to be a night raid hit and run. It was never meant to be a battle to the end. Firstly this mission was never even given permission by high command in the first place. Secondly there are still sizable Allied ships in the area that are a threat, and the element of surprise is gone. Thirdly, the supply ships are far enough away that they can escape and not be found. Fourly there might be allied carriers and planes nearby. Fifthly they lost the charting maps when the bridge was hit by a shell.

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

Yes and no. One of those heavy cruisers wasn't American it was HMAS Canberra. The Royal Navy had to replace it by transferring HMS Shropshire (one of her sisters).

[@Simon-vv3kl]

brilliant

[@The980Junior]

LEARN from your mistakes……. Things like this was the beginning of the us navy’s learning curve.

[@nnoddy8161]

Complete debacle from start to finish. USS Bagley torpedoed HMAS Canberra, which resulted in it losing all power and ability to fight back. Subsequently scuttled (when it could have been saved). This battle should be compulsory study for every naval officer.

[@Holland41]

100% correct, but rarely reported as such. Lots of eye witness testimony and circumstantial evidence as well.

[@nnoddy8161]

@@Holland41 'The Shame of Savo' by Bruce Loxton is an excellent read.

[@skimopotato]

I would like to hear about Captain Arleigh Burke who later became CNO of the US Navy

[@CopeMasterFlexx]

thats so insane that even with radios of the day, it was still possible for a ship to be attacked and sunk, and they cannot send out a message. this wasnt that long ago, they had shortwave, but a station could still not receive them for whatever reason. compared with just 15 or so years later, it was possible to use satalites for comms.

[@13Bravo77]

Best book I ever read on the Guadalcanal campaign is " Neptune's Inferno "

[@HoH]

Thank you! Ordering it right away.

[@toonsis]

great book...as is " Disaster in the Pacific " by Warner

[@13Bravo77]

@HoH I think you'll enjoy it could be a good topic for KZbin video

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

Second that: "Neptune's Inferno" is a superb work of naval history. The late James Hornfischer really outdid himself with this book; his stuff was always excellent but this one was his best, IMHO.

[@samy7013]

The map shows RNAS “Cranberra”??? Looks like an oopsie. 😁

[@HoH]

It is! 😅

[@tokysobukanla]

​@@HoHLooking forward to seeing those videos. On a sidenote, keep up the good work!

[@fredsanford5954]

@@HoH See if Ocean Spray will sponsor the video.

[@marckyle5895]

Soundtrack music for this ship's biopic will be composed by Dolores O’Riordan.

[@christianmartires729]

Radar was the serious game changer. Without it, they would've seen losses almost almost nearing their adversaries since they where adept in nighttime raids.

[@bananabourbonaenima]

This battle actually resembles an average World of Warships game in terms of chaos

[@nostalgiaof98]

Never knew the battle was this devastating, and sneaky. What was the next retaliating battle after this defeat?

[@WilliamSmith-zk4tj]

Thank goodness the rivalries between the Army and Navy in the ijn or even worse than they were in the US but not much if you look at the behavior of Dugout Doug first to the camera last to the field

[@attackmaster519]

Navy Lovers still let the greatest General in American History live rent free in their heads. If the USN spent as much effort on the Japanese as they did hating MacArthur, it might not have taken them so many crushing defeats to finally turn things around.

[@Farkmetal]

Moreeeeee!!!

[@FredKuramura]

i like how ships are crossing over each other.... not

[@shaner9155]

That's not a picture of Admiral Fletcher.

[@andrzejszypio8378]

Iron Bottom

[@tacticalclochard]

It bears mentioning that Mikawa, despite orchestrating an unqualified crushing tactical victory, dropped the ball on expanding it to an operational, or even strategic, triumph by withdrawing. Getting to the transports would have been worth losing his whole command. However, we can't blame the man, he was simply following Japanese decisive battle doctrine. Japanese top brass had no sense for or interest in SLOC.

[@toonsis]

Was not his mission and had to be out of aircraft range by dawn.....but a great " what if " situation.

[@martindavis9930]

That's Cranberry...bubba.

[@13stalag13]

The Cranberra???

[@exharkhun5605]

(6:07) "Confusion ensued among duty officers, with some seeking guidance from higher authorities" You can probably pinpoint the moment a military becomes "good" when you see the officers who are at location not needing to seek guidance anymore from authorities that know less of the situation than they do.

[@harrisonturner1401]

seeing Cranberra is soo funny

[@-NguyenAnhTuan-APhuMy]

Battle of Tsushima (1905) please

[@duellust]

please cover southeast asian history. there's so much untapped content to be made.

[@toonsis]

Mikawa was spotted by the RAAF....that intel was not passed along quickly enough or was just not acted upon. Depending on what story is true.

[@Kireiji]

Only problem I had was the Yamato silhouette as heavy cruiser xD

[@elpatron7916]

How is it a loss when you hold your position after the battle🎉???

[@WilliamSmith-zk4tj]

So they've already penetrated the pickets before they were even seen all these ships had radar and failed to use it correctly due to the command

[@velesquad4253]

May I Request? If thats alright i want to request About Operation C (Indian Ocean Raid), or Battle of Coral Sea or even Battle of Santa Cruz if you fine ❤

[@WilliamSmith-zk4tj]

This defeat should always be presented with the Second Battle end the commanders and how they used their ships and the tactics they applied and why one suffered such a great defeat and the other one such a great victory and the aftermath of each battle when the showing of Henderson's field be better than the bombing of the Japanese reinforcement Fleet in the ramifications of each Lee doesn't get the credit he deserves in history most people don't even know who he is and what does Victory meant to him in his career and also to discuss the problems within the United States Navy at the beginning of the war with the poor performance due to officers and command positions where they had reached their point of incompetency and usually had the position through political rather than through accomplishments

[@Mike193Inf]

Uhhh- that's not Jack Fletcher..

[@pedrokarstguimaraes1096]

Why to divide the fleet? Wasn’t it an absurd wrong?

[@harrybuckner8232]

You show Adm Frank Fletcher but show a Picture of Adm Thomas Kinkaid.

[@mystikmind2005]

A few important details were left out.... Mikawa's fleet was detected on approach by Australian spotter Aircraft, but astonishingly, the entire Guadalcanal operation was kept secret from them - **AFTER** the Japanese already knew about it, and had time to launch their fleet..... as a result of this incredible incompetence, there was no sense of urgency by the Australian pilots or their chain of command regarding the various sightings of Mikawa's fleet. As far as they knew, it was completely unimportant information.

[@26Rudders]

I think I heard some where, that the Aussie scout planes didn't have good radios and basically had to go back to base and report then. Also there was stupid procedures. I think they had to send the information to a communication centre in Australia somewhere. Then because they were attached to a different theatre than the Guadalcanal area it had to transmitted across from one theatre command to the other theatre command then down the Guadalcanal chain of command etc etc. I think they got the information days later. After that I think they did a shake up of the communications and tried to stream line it a bit more. Bloated bureaucracy type stuff.

[@mystikmind2005]

@@26Rudders I heard all those things as well.... but i think it is extremely likely they would have made special efforts to ensure the information got to where it needed to be had they known about the operation at Guadacanal.... i am not saying they needed to know before hand, but once its underway and the Japanese know about it, what is the use in continuing to keep it a secret from the very people scouting whats heading your way? Answer me that?? Mebe the RAAF should have found out what the allied navy is doing and vice versa from Japanese code breakers? That might have been quicker??

[@WilliamSmith-zk4tj]

You left out one other thing the American Commander did not trust or use his radar his Flagship had the worst radar of all his main ships in the entire column fell apart on their first maneuver

[@samdumaquis2033]

Wow, that was sloppy, letting a whole fleet in

[@CelticKnight2004]

Remember the Canberra.

[@otadashi1570]

The US Navy would have to wear down the Japanese over time since the JIN had been training for years especially at night fighting. Except for Lee, the US Navy command were relics of the first WW. All you need to know about the US Navy was illustrated by the half-witted Halsey following the Japanese decoy force in the battle of Leyte Gulf leaving three heroic destroyers to take on the massive Japanese task force. Halsey wouldn't make it back until it was over. I wonder how many of them were responsible for disasters at Peleliu, Iwo, Saipan, and Okinawa. They were just not capable of learning a damn thing or didn't care about how many men they sacrificed.

[@flashyfantail5665]

Come on guys, a history video where you have the United Kingdom Navy, a photo of the wrong Admiral and you spell Canberra…also our Capital City by the way, incorrectly.

[@HoH]

Australia flew the royal navy flag during WW2, Australia did not adopt its own flag until long after ww2. The r is a typo indeed.

[@Holland41]

​@@HoH In action Australian warships flew the Australian national blue ensign at the top of the foremast, with RN white ensigns at other points on the ship.

[@HoH]

@@Holland41 I don't think that's right. I used that flag a while ago for HMAS Sydney and many Australians pointed out RAN ships flew the White Ensign, which was the British White Ensign at the time.

[@Holland41]

@@HoH No, they actually flew both when in battle, but only flew RN white ensigns when not in battle. In battle the Australian national flag (blue ensign) was flown at the top of the foremast with British white ensign at the stern, mainmast and elsewhere. I know this as a fact as my father served on the bridge of Australian warships in battle in the Mediterranean and Pacific and he was responsible for making sure his signalling staff hoisted the battle flag (national blue ensign) to the foretop as part of their action stations routine. Sydney did so when fighting the Italians, and Perth did in the Battle of Sunda Strait. Sydney presumably did not do so when she came up against the Kormoran as she was surprised and not at action stations.

[@Holland41]

The current RAN white ensign (white background, blue stars) was not introduced until well after World War II, but the blue ensign was the national flag well before World War II.

[@TallDude73]

One could argue that it was a strategic victory for the US because the landing transports were left alone. If the heavy cruisers got in amongst the transports, it would have been far worse, and the whole campaign would have been delayed.

[@brokenbridge6316]

I heard that had the commanding Japanese Admiral had pressed his attack even more his fleet would've done a lot more harm to American forces in the area. How lucky for the American Forces.

[@JamesTodorovich]

Perhaps, or perhaps some failure or miracle occur and he get fucked anyway, ultimately it probably wouldnt matter in long run. When midway occurred the war was as good as won, would taken multiple miracle level events for japan to come out on top.

[@brokenbridge6316]

@@JamesTodorovich---That's certainly possible

[@uknowns1794]

you need to do savonisland dakota and washington vs kirashima

[@HoH]

Great suggestion, thank you!

[@vf-114jock2]

Her name was HMS CANBERRA NOT Cranberra

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

No it wasn’t. Australian!

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

HMAS

[@vf-114jock2]

@@goodshipkaraboudjan Cranberry and Vodka please

[@janlindtner305]

👍👍👍

[@blockmasterscott]

What I hate about this battle is that I can’t come up with any excuses or alibis. I have to come right out and say that we got our assses kicked fair and square. They whooped us and good.

[@marckyle5895]

We fought the battle the way they wanted us to.

[@chadpersing5596]

Lots of lessons learned along the way and we are better for it. Rest in peace to those who perished and I salute them for their service. I'm glad we can view the Japanese as allies these days..as we know..they are as fierce as they come

[@wolfu597]

This was only the first of five night battles in Ironbottom Sound. The US Navy was paying heavily for the Navy Departments decision to disband all training for night battles in order to save funds. The Japanese on the other hand, did the opposite. And this is the tragic result.

[@Khate.ghermez]

Please add Persian Subtitle Persian Subtitle is farsi = فارسی

[@nickashton3584]

cranberra lol

[@DaveSCameron]

Only title for is FIASCO. 🇺🇸🙏🇬🇧

[@braddonovan1786]

Those American ships were badly handled.

[@aurorathekitty7854]

The Japanese navy was experts in night fighting in the beginning of WW2 and before. Russo/Japanese war the Japanese navy destroyed the Russian navy in night combat.

[@NokotanFanCentral]

maybe cuz it was the baltic fleet?

[@aurorathekitty7854]

@@NokotanFanCentral Why did they have to move their Baltic fleet to the Pacific? Because Pacific fleet got wiped out

[@NokotanFanCentral]

@@aurorathekitty7854 maybe cause the Russians didn’t get a formal declaration of war? Caught be surprise on an yet unjustified war, learn history muppet

[@Baskerville22]

Errrrrrr.......I rather think that Pearl Harbor was The U.S. Navy's Greatest Defeat

[@icewaterslim7260]

It should be clarified as a Sea Battle. Battle of Java Sea is in the running and too easily forgotten in this lineup of fails. It left Allies more vulnerable with no Allied rescue and survivors interned in Thailand to slave on the Burma-Thai railway. KIA numbers were comparable.

[@bl1754]

haha cranberra

[@toonsis]

nit pick much ?

[@15halerobert]

And the foolish Japanese, after crushing the American naval forces, failed to continue into Iron Bottom sound and destroying the American supply fleet. There must have been something wrong with Japanese naval doctrine because they would give up this golden opportunity again at Leyte Gulf in1944.

[@icewaterslim7260]

Without the benefit of hindsight Mikawa was responsible for irreplaceable national assetts , had no clue that Fletcher's carriers were out of range and lacked intelligence as to the purpose of our mission as did the IJN and even Fletcher whom misunderstood it as more of another raid.

[@BOpal-cl6of]

Too many mistakes in this video. Undermines your credibility.

[@neudaiz]

I don't know much about this battle. What did he get wrong?

[@doozledorf7036]

Only negative anti-USA videos from you. I don't think I've ever seen a video in which the USA is shown positively. Not even 1 lmao

[@joeblowe3180]

He's Euro... that's how they act. Never concede ANYTHING to the usa

[@joeblowe3180]

@@doozledorf7036 yes

[@HoH]

I'm creating a chronological documentary about the Guadalcanal Campaign. Literally the video inbetween Savo & Santa Cruz you and your buddy commented on is a US victory. Not to mention the sinking of the Yamato and the Battle of the Bismarck Sea. You aren't just wrong, but you're lazy as well.

[@brettmitchell6431]

2:45 United Kingdom Navy??

[@TOTCTY]

Thats Australian Navy

[@brettmitchell6431]

Zhang There is the Royal Navy, Royal Australian Navy, Royal Canadian Navy and Royal New Zealand Navy. There has never been a United Kingdom Navy or Australian Navy.

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

There are plenty of royal navies throughout the world, it is sensible to say England’s _Royal Navy._

[@brettmitchell6431]

@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 It’s not called anything but the Royal Navy.

[@ChristopherHolland-fv8ls]

The Australian Heavy Cruiser sunk at Savo Island was HMAS Canberra not HMS Cranberra get all your facts right next time before you do a presentation. Many Australian servicemen were withdrawn from other overseas campaigns in North Africa, The Middle East ,The Mediterranean,North Atlantic to return home to fight and defend their homeland against the Japanese threat and were attached to forces under British Commonwealth and US command.

[@candidate3512]

Japanese killed their best pilots. Germany didnt have enough experienced tank units. Usa experienced commanders be like 💀💀

[@joeblowe3180]

USA experienced commanders be like: win the war

[@mer2705]

I thought Pearl Harbour was the greatest defeat?

[@JamesTodorovich]

Hmm maybe? But pearl harbor didnt really cause as much harm as japanese wanted, so it primarily failed. Some even say the president let it happen despite knowing about it in order to make it more of a deal to rally usa to war, if i remember right all of the carriers were out of pearl harbor during attack for example. And only a few ships like the arizona were in such critical condition they couldnt be saved.

[@jeffreyval9665]

You could argue it was Japan's biggest defeat. They didn't get the carriers, which were the main objective and they turned a very isolationist American population into a war machine. They would've been better off tying down Russian forces in Manchuria in conjunction with operation Barbarrossa. The men used in the counteroffensive at the gates of Moscow wouldn't have been available. Who knows what would've happened??

[@maurycyj]

Japaneese ships looks like "murricans after many burgers" ;)