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Steps to Podium

Steps to Podium

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@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you all for the love you have shown, I really appreciate it! 😊Note: No, I did not mention the first back pressure generated when the pressure wave reaches the divergent, which is responsible for creating some suction on the crankcase. I left that info out to make the video clean and simple (so everyone can understand it without being intimidating) and focus on the main pressure wave generated on the pipe!
@Mr.WellingtonVonDukeIII
@Mr.WellingtonVonDukeIII 4 жыл бұрын
Nah man you cool
@Mr.WellingtonVonDukeIII
@Mr.WellingtonVonDukeIII 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.WellingtonVonDukeIII I'm busting my ass out laughing with your comments, you're a legend! xD
@richardkey4289
@richardkey4289 4 жыл бұрын
Good explanation, people always wonder about 2 stroke pipe shapes. It must have been a freaky idea , whomever first considered it back in the day
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardkey4289 Agree! 😂
@DarekNiemczyk
@DarekNiemczyk 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know Zlatan Ibrahimovic knows 2 stroke engines. 😜
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Zlatan knows everything 😎
@didik871
@didik871 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Himal_Rulz
@Himal_Rulz 4 жыл бұрын
At first glance i thought he looks like zalatan
@Kartraceone
@Kartraceone 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly he doesn't
@maximilianklein9045
@maximilianklein9045 4 жыл бұрын
@@StepstoPodium no no... Zlatan is knowledge
@joshbroadbent9554
@joshbroadbent9554 4 жыл бұрын
team 2 stroke for life honestly
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
👌😂😂💪😊
@kirkthepimp1
@kirkthepimp1 4 жыл бұрын
Im team both 2 stroke for wood and 4 stroke for track!!! If it’s got two wheels and knobs it’s a win for me ✊🏻
@chriswebb383
@chriswebb383 4 жыл бұрын
That seems backwards lol
@huskyluva2180
@huskyluva2180 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Webb idk 2 strokes a much easier to ride through tight tracks and hills, just abit more clutch work, but that’s quite easy, on track 4 strokes rip
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 4 жыл бұрын
@@huskyluva2180 four strokes rip because two strokes where ban from racing on tracks ...since the night at the indy mile when kenny roberts won the indy on a TZ750 two stroke inline four cylinder yamaha that in stock tune made well over 150 horsepower compared to all the four strokes barley make 100 horsepower ..it is impossible for the same size four stroke naturally aspirated engine you ever make more horsepower than a same size naturally aspirated 2 stroke that's why they were banned from MotoGP and the dirt track if you can't beat the competition get rid of it that is how we do it today
@wilshirewarrior2783
@wilshirewarrior2783 3 жыл бұрын
In early days the exhaust pipe was also referred to as an “ extractor” and the smaller pipe at the end was the “stinger”. M/Cs sometimes came with narrow stinger openings to get more horsepower but it caused the power to fall off at low rpm so commonly the stinger was widened in diameter to get power at lower rpm and prevent a bike from ‘falling off the pipe” or losing power. There were no silencers when I stated racing.
@starwars615
@starwars615 4 жыл бұрын
“It’s all about the length of the pipe” Facts
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 4 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as the legend of the pipe ..you have no facts at all and no concept of what an expansion chamber actually does as it it was explained to me by the team Honda Elsinore research and development program located in Milwaukee Wisconsin at American Honda training facility.. this was required by all Honda dealerships back in the seventies when Honda brought out the first of their two cycle Elsinore racing motorcycles as I was sent there by my dealership to learn all the technical aspects of 2 cycle Racing Engines
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Sure it isn't! 😂 Thanks for the comment though, I appreciate you letting us know your experience on the matter! It must have been a great experience that seminar Honda USA did! Great to see that even back then companies invested in those kinds of events for their employees 😊
@goodbyemr.anderson5065
@goodbyemr.anderson5065 4 жыл бұрын
donnie baker who are you taking to?
@laurean5998
@laurean5998 4 жыл бұрын
In short: “According to some asians, it is not about the length of the pipe“
@sethh1577
@sethh1577 4 жыл бұрын
“It’s actually the technique” lmao
@thomasstark5381
@thomasstark5381 3 жыл бұрын
I ice raced Mercury sno twisters in the mid seventies and the pipes on those machines where never duplicated. Mercury even had Tipsters as modifications to enhance rpm. How to cut and shorten for a given rpm. Very high tech at the time. I believe it was Les Cahoun that developed those pipes. A talented 2 stroke engineer that ended up at OMC in their engineering room. A book called 2 stroke tunrs handbook was our bible in the racing days of design and mods. Cool stuff !
@jacko4483
@jacko4483 3 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed and I am looking forward to digging into more of your videos! Turning 60 this year means nothing to me, I have four 2 strokes, two enduros and two trials, and I feel like I'm 40! But I have no problem learning from younger people and you clearly know what you are talking about! Thank you for your commitment to providing such good information! Blessings from Colorado!🙏
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your comment and nice words!! I really appreciate it and I hope to see you around in thr comment section! 😃 Let me hear more about what you think about the videos 💪
@powerwagon3731
@powerwagon3731 2 жыл бұрын
I’m turning 61, have multiple bikes including my new Beta 300 rr, from Colorado and feel 45 when I’m riding. Greetings from Buena Vista!
@andretorben9995
@andretorben9995 8 ай бұрын
When I was a young bloke I rode in a club, one day this old guy turned up on a WR Husky. I thought "were gonna a be hanging around waiting for this guy to catch up", well stuff me, he rode the ass off me and most of the other guys.
@salazam
@salazam Ай бұрын
lol old people
@donziperk
@donziperk 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see you explain it so clearly. There is a mathematical formula for calculating length and shape of the pipe. I bought a book called The 2 Stroke Tuners Handbook 40 years ago and still use it. It has all the info for building pipes in it. I have built 3 and they all worked great. I checked Amazon that book is still available.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you, I appreciate it 😊 maybe I'll get it! it's such a complex subject, it's never too much knowledge lying around 😆😂
@sethbrown1763
@sethbrown1763 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That was really clear and made it simple to understand. I once built an exhaust pipe for my 2 stroke and it wasn't easy! There was a very good book on improving 2 stroke performance and the exhaust pipe was a huge part of that. Sadly, I lost that book somewhere along life. :(
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
Im happy to hear that! I bet it wasn't but it sure was a good challenge, I imagine 💪
@geoffreymandzuk5708
@geoffreymandzuk5708 Жыл бұрын
Likely " the 2 stroke tuners handbook by Gordon Jennings"
@barryphillips7327
@barryphillips7327 3 жыл бұрын
A good explanation to the black art of two stroke exhaust pipes.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! 😊🙌
@jessa813
@jessa813 10 ай бұрын
Thank you as a daughter who always annoyed her dad and brother with these questions this helped me understand why my kx 85 exhaust is shaped different from my klx 140
@33fastcar
@33fastcar 4 жыл бұрын
150+ psi, seal pipe on both ends. Torch the dents. If you have an air tight seal, the dents pop right out... Old dirt dog trick from the late 70's early 80's. If you do it right big dents can be repaired fairly easy. This really works! We did it on the worst of rainy days!
@mirofin
@mirofin 3 жыл бұрын
You need to fix it with ice
@rcracer641
@rcracer641 4 жыл бұрын
When the 2 stroke is running, after the exhaust gas is pushed out, some of the fresh fuel air mixture gets into the exhaust pipe and that is what is pushed back into the motor to charge the cylinder with more pressure.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
exactly :)
@NjoyMoney
@NjoyMoney 4 жыл бұрын
@Nimbus Nimbus Not really, the video kinda implied that the gas beeing pushed back is already combusted gas, there wasnt a mention of fresh mixture escaping the cylinder and that beeing pushed back. It might just be a language barrier thing :P
@NjoyMoney
@NjoyMoney 4 жыл бұрын
@Nimbus Nimbus No he didnt? He didnt say it was fresh mixture that escaped the cylinder, he used the exact same icon for them as the icons for the exhaust. Implying its combusted gases that get pushed back in. Not my fault if you are not mechanically inclined
@NjoyMoney
@NjoyMoney 4 жыл бұрын
@Nimbus Nimbus Its a smoke icon, explain why unburnt air and fuel would represented with a smoke icon? U are dense mate.
@NjoyMoney
@NjoyMoney 4 жыл бұрын
@Nimbus Nimbus Also give me the timestamp where it says new air fuel mixture escapes the cylinder.
@specialtymachining
@specialtymachining 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad mentioned this to me back in the 1970's, but now I understand the dynamics. Thank you!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help! thank you for watching! 😊
@macattack9041
@macattack9041 4 жыл бұрын
It’s curved bc it can’t go straight. Got it bro.
@-Maxim-90
@-Maxim-90 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, 15 years ago when i was riding a moped i told my father that a good exhaust is important for a 2 stroke,but i never knew why. He told me its better when the air just flew out without a pipe. Thats maybe truth for a 4 stroke. Now i know why its better with exhaust. Thanks for the good video, cheers.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could bring some enlightenment after all these years! :P I really appreciate the comment, thank you! :)
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 4 жыл бұрын
no, 4s engine has bigger power with just good header(4-1) than without anything(engine masters)
@williamnottbusch8024
@williamnottbusch8024 4 жыл бұрын
I use to race shifter karts and jet skis in my younger days. Temperature also affects the speed of the sonic wave. A rich or lean mixture will change the exhaust gas temperature and the tuning within the pipe. On our jet skis we would inject water into the pipe at various places and this would change the powerband due to the temperature change. We also used what were called center bleed pipes were the exhaust would exit out of the side of the cone. Didn’t affect power but made packaging easier. Lots of interesting theories on expansion chambers.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for the info! It's amazing how specific the technologies can get in the various motorsports!
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA Жыл бұрын
Yep, the difference in the sound wave speed is because of differing exhaust gas temps, as the sound wave does travel a bit faster through hotter gasses. If your pipe and porting are tuned fairly well together, on normal pipes to me (not water injected), you can wrap the pipe with some pipe wrap insulation, for hotter gasses in the pipe and usually gain some top rpm.
@MartyZaluski
@MartyZaluski 4 жыл бұрын
This is incredible info. I've been riding for 30 years, and just now learned why the power band comes on at a tight RPM range. Thank you!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help! I appreciate it 😁
@MAsWorld1
@MAsWorld1 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent clear and detailed explanation!! I’ve been wondering how this worked for decades!! Thankyou👍🏻
@kingcosworth2643
@kingcosworth2643 4 жыл бұрын
Another factor is the length of the divergent and convergent sections help broaden the usable rev range. as the convergent gradually contracts it is sending a positive sound wave back the whole time, weaker, but broader. This means it will reach the exhaust port over a wider rpm range, but it's peak wave pressure, and thus the engines comp ratio will be less than a more aggressive angled convergent section, same goes for the divergent section except reflecting a negative pulse for scavenging.
@JunkyardDigs
@JunkyardDigs 4 жыл бұрын
Science 🤘
@radowane101
@radowane101 3 жыл бұрын
Biatche lol
@H.EL-Othemany
@H.EL-Othemany 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeahh
@gmx0413
@gmx0413 3 жыл бұрын
@@radowane101 ahhh you said it for me
@motorsrotors2127
@motorsrotors2127 4 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive video my guy. It's rare to find such high quality info, and graphics from such a small channel. Keep it up!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it! 😊💪 Next week I'm uploading a mega video about suspensions so don't forget to subscribe 😆😉
@TD402dd
@TD402dd 4 жыл бұрын
That is more commonly called an expansion chamber, but it also causes the power to have a narrower band. My friends used to say it was like a turbo charger coming on suddenly. For the average rider this can be very unnerving. For the others it gives a thrill to hold on tight and keep the front end down. My dirt bike had it, and my Yamaha RD400 had two, with the effect almost better than sex.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
"with the effect almost better than sex." - best way to finish any positive opinion about anything xD
@ANDREVDJMIKELI
@ANDREVDJMIKELI 4 жыл бұрын
I think this must be the best video ever made to explain how it works or how to escape from a 2-stroke bike. Thanks !
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for that! 😁😁💪
@fauzanramadhan9046
@fauzanramadhan9046 3 жыл бұрын
It's really crazy to think, how just change the exhaust system can completely change both the power and the torque in the 2 stroke engine
@michaelbrinks8089
@michaelbrinks8089 3 жыл бұрын
I figured the bulb part of the pipe would be closer to the exhaust port , instead of 1/2 way down the pipe.
@BruceLee-xn3nn
@BruceLee-xn3nn Жыл бұрын
Not only 2 strokes and not only bikes
@aaron71
@aaron71 2 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for such a clear explanation without taking forever to do it! Now I get why 2 strokes need back pressure whereas 4 strokes don't (or as much).
@mowerdog
@mowerdog 4 жыл бұрын
It's not to increase the compression. It's to reclaim some of the raw fuel that escapes the cylinder during scavaging. CORRECTION. ... What I should have said was you can stuff " force " more air and fuel into the cylinder which can result in higher pressures and possibly more horsepower. However the compression ratio never changes.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I understand what you mean by that, but it's a matter of perspective. If there was no expansion chamber, there would be no fuel escaping the cylinder due to scavenging (partly created by the expansion chamber) :)
@MisterFurious71
@MisterFurious71 4 жыл бұрын
Which adds compression...
@mareksumguy1887
@mareksumguy1887 4 жыл бұрын
Steps to Podium I’m pretty sure a considerable portion of inlet charge (fresh fuel and air) would still be wasted out the exhaust port(s), even if there was no pipe.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
@@mareksumguy1887 Probably, yeah!
@mowerdog
@mowerdog 4 жыл бұрын
I left out the word "ratio" on my first post which is my mistake. What I should have said was you can stuff "force" more air and/or fuel into the cylinder which can result in higher pressures and possibly more horsepower. However the compression ratio never changes.
@impalaSS65
@impalaSS65 4 жыл бұрын
Very complex subject, this explanation managed to at least touch on the major points. Most important being the fixed pipelength = fixed rpm peak or a trade off necessary - the graph showed it well. Well done! .
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you very much! I'm really glad you could appreciate the time and knowledge put into the video to explain it in a simple way 😉😀
@darrelllatham6086
@darrelllatham6086 4 жыл бұрын
And that "perfect" comp & rpm range is what we old guys refer to as "getting on the pipe". Nothing else like it. From 50cc to 500cc, 2 strokes can be a blast.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
amen to that!👌
@AC-bl1rl
@AC-bl1rl 4 жыл бұрын
HAHA!! I've nearly gotten friends in trouble in front of their parents for saying that. "oh yeah, we came around the corner and got on the pipe" or hit the pipe, and they thought we were smoking something. Just tires on the street, or roostin!
@Tim542
@Tim542 4 жыл бұрын
Whilst i ride them...ive never asked myself why they are shaped like that. Thanks!!! Very helpful and well explained.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
knowledge is power! 😆 Now you're going to look at your bike and question everything 😂😂 thank you so much! I really appreciate it 😊💪
@AnthonyLopez-dj4lf
@AnthonyLopez-dj4lf 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wanting to know this for the longest time
@APHEXSHAMAN
@APHEXSHAMAN 4 жыл бұрын
Finally. KZbin content actually worth watching.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for that!!! 😀
@mc1996
@mc1996 4 жыл бұрын
Ah...a bela pronúncia portuguesa sobre o inglês :D Não engana! Não conhecia o canal, muito interessante.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Obrigado! 😉
@ruifreitas408
@ruifreitas408 4 жыл бұрын
Muito bom!!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Muito obrigado Rui! 😊
@ChocoFreak66600
@ChocoFreak66600 4 жыл бұрын
@@StepstoPodium Bem me parecia que eras tuga XD XD XD assim como o M Cunha não conhecia o canal... Big Props
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChocoFreak66600 o que vem de Portugal tbm é muito bom 😆😂 grande abraço e muito obrigado! 😊
@Sanguine_Addiction
@Sanguine_Addiction 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Definitely a must see for any two stroke enthusiast.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 😀 take a look at the suspension videos if you are interested in that topic as well 😁🙌
@temp_uura
@temp_uura 3 жыл бұрын
Esse sotaque portugues nao engana ninguem ahahah. Subscrito! Adorei o conteúdo e a explicação direta ao assunto.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
💪💪💪
@yordyiam
@yordyiam 4 жыл бұрын
The clever here is the way everything is explained. (Without falling asleep) 👌
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you soooo much! I really appreciate it 😀💪
@werdevo6
@werdevo6 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the good learn on 2 stroke exhaust systems!🙂
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for watching and giving feedback! I appreciate it 😊
@sergeykiz1728
@sergeykiz1728 4 жыл бұрын
i was always very confused and curious how this pipe works and why it looks like this, thank you for explaining so simply!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate it! thank you for leaving a comment 😊
@Espinete87
@Espinete87 4 жыл бұрын
quick and interesting, thumbs up! i had a gasgas 250 enduro, and made dent, so... you answered a question that was in my mind almost 10 years XD
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you! I appreciate it! 😊 well, better late than never 😂
@TomBartram-b1c
@TomBartram-b1c 4 жыл бұрын
Having watched several longer vids that left me none the wiser, finly crackled it. Thanks .. muito obrigadu!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for watching! I'm glad I could help! 😊😊
@vitor26marques
@vitor26marques 5 жыл бұрын
Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho que tens feito... Espero e desejo que o crescimento do canal seja proporcional à tua dedicação.... Um grande abraço...
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 5 жыл бұрын
Um enorme obrigado Vítor 👐 é bom saber que quem vê os vídeos tem a noção do trabalho e dedicação por detrás dos vídeos 💪💪 grande abraço!
@HAL-1984
@HAL-1984 4 жыл бұрын
Well explained and concise, your english is also excellent, better than many English people!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that! I take as a huge compliment! 😊😊😊💪💪
@desertbrewcrew1974
@desertbrewcrew1974 4 жыл бұрын
I actually learned something!! Like my taste in women, more compact and lots of curves. EXCELLENT
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help! 😊 and damn good comment! 😂😂😂😂
@c.a.marsupial.1282
@c.a.marsupial.1282 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I'll subscribe. I owned the first Elsinore 125 back in the early seventies and now I know why it had such a beautiful big exhaust.
@faustin289
@faustin289 4 жыл бұрын
Another reason: they look fricking cool!
@Goldenfightinglink
@Goldenfightinglink 4 жыл бұрын
Jeez, hours of watching "fuel, air, spark" when it's "fuel, air, compression, spark". Never knew I needed a proper fit to get that back pressure, thank you!
@saeednote7377
@saeednote7377 4 жыл бұрын
gases when travel at speeds lower than sonic, their pressure increases when the cross section area of passway increases and their velocity decreases, and viceversa
@neilpincus4667
@neilpincus4667 4 жыл бұрын
Correct. A bit of fresh mixture will end up in the header pipe but the return wave shoves it back in just before the port closes. The sound wave helps the pressure wave.
@daytonwintle6051
@daytonwintle6051 4 жыл бұрын
It’s opposite. You’re referring to the Venturi effect, when the cross sectional area increases, the velocity increases and the pressure decreases.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 4 жыл бұрын
saeed note ---- what? you got it wrong?
@conrapal5408
@conrapal5408 3 жыл бұрын
My gosh! how simple you make it! Congrats!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 💪💪💪
@moparone7962
@moparone7962 4 жыл бұрын
They're shaped that way so you have to buy a new pipe every time you smash a log.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
👌😂😂😂
@lalilulelo1989
@lalilulelo1989 3 жыл бұрын
heat gun + air compressor 😏 But make sure to secure the plugs and be careful. Slow and steady. Edit: Actually I might have used a torch. It was a long time ago!
@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel
@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel 3 жыл бұрын
They should use rave valves / power valves like jet skis. Then you wouldn't need the complex curves.
@moparone7962
@moparone7962 3 жыл бұрын
@@lalilulelo1989 yeah, I do that sometimes. I wear my full riding gear when I do, had a plug shoot out at mach 3 before, haha.
@CrossWindsPat
@CrossWindsPat Жыл бұрын
First time I drove a banshee was a modded one and wow it was legit like a turbo. So much fun!
@Luftbubblan
@Luftbubblan 4 жыл бұрын
Think i missed something in this video haha, ended up asking my self more questions. I learned something new today doe so tyvm for the video.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
more knowledge always leads to more questions, so you're on the right path 😉 thank you! 😊
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 4 жыл бұрын
@@StepstoPodium almost cause you are close but not on the right path of the purpose for an expansion chamber ....its not about exhaust "back pressure" its all about the reflecting of sound waves traveling back to the exhaust port to seal in the boost pressure created in the crankcase ..the amount of fuel/air mixture you claim is being pushed back into the combustion chamber and to create higher compression has every little effect at all ...the higher compression was already created in the crankcase from naturally aspirated atmospheric pressure draft in the crankcase and then compressed by the Piston to higher than atmospheric pressure then transferred by the Boost Ports into the combustion chamber where it is compressed again before it is fired off
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Dude...... A sound wave IS a pressure wave. and no, the amount of boost that comes in through the reed valves isn't only from the crankcase, but also from suction created by a negative relative pressure created by the pipe (I explained on the pinned comment with I didn't include that part on the video). Look it up please.
@fredgarvinMP
@fredgarvinMP 4 жыл бұрын
I now fully understand what "on the pipe" means. Thank you!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help! thanks for watching! 😊
@NjoyMoney
@NjoyMoney 4 жыл бұрын
2 strokes get so much extra power from a performance exhaust compared to stock, its crazy :D
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
True indeed! 😁
@cyborg6008
@cyborg6008 4 жыл бұрын
Dude thank you. I couldn’t this anywhere. Thanks for the great work and animation was super helpful!!!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad I could help! Thank you so much for the comment and for the good words 😀👌💪
@wrestle259
@wrestle259 3 жыл бұрын
Walter Kaaden was responsible for the tech originally which came directly from the development of the V1 pulse jet flying bombs from WW2. Fascinating story
@markschlehr6911
@markschlehr6911 4 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation. Static compression is low but when running, the dynamic compression will be high due to the pipe pushing gases back into the cylinder. But it's not just exhaust gases, the intake charge will also start to escape out the cylinder into the pipe until the return wave pushes it back into the cylinder. Consequently, the volume of an expansion chamber increases the amount of intake charge that can be stored and pushed back into the cylinder.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it and thank you for the bit of extra information! 😊
@bruceparr1678
@bruceparr1678 4 жыл бұрын
Walter Kaaden, the man that invented the expansion chamber, said that when you get the perfect shape for the expansion chamber, it will not fit on the bike.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@craigcp7455
@craigcp7455 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for teaching me my biggest passion!
@charlesmanning5819
@charlesmanning5819 4 жыл бұрын
Two strokes pips are called a tuned expansion chamber
@markwiley1538
@markwiley1538 3 жыл бұрын
Bernoulli Principal is everywhere, great explanation! Thank you.
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 4 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to beat a light two stroke in the tight woods
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
true that!! 👌
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you are built like scott sumer was when he won the GNCC on a 1996 Honda XR600R that weigh over 300 pounds wet and when you kill it and crash you will kick it till you see stars before it will ever restart ...but ok scott didnt crash much at all , until one day he tried to battle it out with my friend's son who ran scott sumer off a cliff life lining scott to a hospital and costing team honda the GNCC championship for the year...the boy who did in sumer was Samson team rider and importer for TM off road dirt bikes
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 4 жыл бұрын
donnie baker I used to watch him muscle that hog around
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 4 жыл бұрын
donnie baker The TM’s, that’s cool, never in my price range, but an EC300 with those gorgeous blue rims? Oh yeh, I’d love to give that a home.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 4 жыл бұрын
@@deborahchesser7375 miss that *a lot...*
@jisooo-fx8sx
@jisooo-fx8sx Жыл бұрын
Ive been looking for this kind of video. Finally my questions are answered, thank you bro your video is very informative!!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! Thank you for watching 🙌😄
@wawaron1407
@wawaron1407 4 жыл бұрын
I learn...
@tyroniousyrownshoolacez2347
@tyroniousyrownshoolacez2347 3 жыл бұрын
Zappa goes technical! Well done, thanks for sharing.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! 💪
@stevenleininger5682
@stevenleininger5682 4 жыл бұрын
And I thought it was just to tell the difference between 2 and 4 strokes.
@epicengines2565
@epicengines2565 4 жыл бұрын
I like you more than engineering explained. Keep it up ✊
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
SHHHIIIIIEEEEEETTTT!😍😲😶 that might be the best compliment I ever got 😂😂 I really appreciate it man! 😁
@epicengines2565
@epicengines2565 4 жыл бұрын
@@StepstoPodium Haha you deserve it bro. Your content is Top Notch 👌
@vflinck1324
@vflinck1324 4 жыл бұрын
Lets say i would ride a 2 stroke withouth a silencer would it lose lots of power
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
silencer or expansion chamber? without the silencer it would do a loooot of noise. without the expansion chamber, it would do a lot of noise and lose a lot of power 😂😂
@vflinck1324
@vflinck1324 4 жыл бұрын
@@StepstoPodium so I've been thinking about a aprilia rs 125 stunt bike and i thought i could take off the silencer and put a db killer at the end of the expansion chamber so it wouldn't be so loud and this is because the silencer gets destroyed every time I fall
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
@@vflinck1324 you will affect the performance of the pipe and the performance of the engine if you do that!
@ginettaclark2387
@ginettaclark2387 4 жыл бұрын
Depend, if the espansion chamber is designed to work whithout silencer, adding a silencer will reduce power
@bonkeydollocks1879
@bonkeydollocks1879 4 жыл бұрын
@@ginettaclark2387 all bikes have silencers after expansion chamber
@christianfortadesembile5511
@christianfortadesembile5511 4 жыл бұрын
Very clear explanations ! Keep up ! Greetings here from Philippines! 😊
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you so much! 😊
@copisetic1104
@copisetic1104 4 жыл бұрын
Read prof Blair two stroke book. You have it partly wrong, when the exhaust wave hits the end of the primary pipe or header and hits the first diffuser there is a wave that returns to the exhaust port with a negative sign and helps extract more incoming charge thru the engine, it will pull a negative wave all the way back to the inlet port of the engine. In a well tuned engine I have seen negative and positive pressures over 7lbs and higher, the header length, diffuser and baffle cones will change the character of the engine. The tuning of the “stinger” will effect the temperature at the piston and effective rpm.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I know I didnt explain every single detail about the difuser, it was meant to keep it simple and informative for about 90%. Sometimes if you go too much into detail, you loose the big picture, but I might do a video just for the 2 stroke! Nonetheless I really appreciate leaving a comment with your feedback, and surely everyone reading the comments do as well 😊😉 I will read it! thanks for that info! 😊
@martinzorro640
@martinzorro640 4 жыл бұрын
Excelente video!!! Muy clara la explicacion. Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Muchissimas gracias Martin! 😊 Saludos! 💪
@thejeepdoctor
@thejeepdoctor 4 жыл бұрын
Hense the name expansion chamber. 😉
@user-vp1sc7tt4m
@user-vp1sc7tt4m 3 жыл бұрын
Expansion=cooling=reduction in pressure=minimize back pressure
@peterkang7640
@peterkang7640 Жыл бұрын
Great information bro! I just bought a used Goped gas scooter and it’s 2 stroke. I was thinking about making a rhino/snail shaped exhaust but didn’t know how it works. This helps!
@mr.houdini6701
@mr.houdini6701 4 жыл бұрын
You look like Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I've been told 😂😂
@mrgundersen3117
@mrgundersen3117 4 жыл бұрын
A vegan zlatan....
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
that, I haven't been told 😐😂
@mrgundersen3117
@mrgundersen3117 4 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad... Zlatan is a big dude!
@mrgundersen3117
@mrgundersen3117 4 жыл бұрын
And I don't think there is such a thing as a two stroke lovning vegan.. 😀
@cprendon3
@cprendon3 3 жыл бұрын
Great visual and explanation of the body of the expansion chamber exhaust. There is one more part that has a major effect on the performance of the engine and that is the Stinger, length and diameter.
@Freaki91
@Freaki91 4 жыл бұрын
You missed something. Gnarly vs fatty maybe in a new video :)?
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
in this video I didn't mean to compare specific brands/products, but yes, maybe for a next video! 😊
@jaredalexander3403
@jaredalexander3403 4 жыл бұрын
Yes that would be awesome
@intothevoid5027
@intothevoid5027 3 жыл бұрын
The YPVS really helped the RZ 350s get some low end torque, and with a set of good pipes and pistons and reed valves and head work you could fly.
@wsmaga
@wsmaga 4 жыл бұрын
Very good information, I’m glad you included moped/scooter pipes.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thanks! 😊
@charliecharliecharliecharl8554
@charliecharliecharliecharl8554 Жыл бұрын
multi cylinder Two stroke exhaust systems are a work of art blending that power together
@mzappas
@mzappas 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking to solve this question for years! Awesome! Great video! ☺️
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help! Thank you for watching! 😀
@mikeguitarification
@mikeguitarification 3 жыл бұрын
Great information, explained in a simple to understand manner. Thanks.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! Thank you! 💪🙌
@justtim7334
@justtim7334 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the 60's my first bike was a 1957 Zudapp 250 Super Sabre.. It was a great machine. I sure wish I had it now.
@franktaylor7617
@franktaylor7617 4 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of tuning involved in building a chamber. Once it's set for a particular motor it's easier to replicate. My RG has 4 different chambers and the stinger (section before the silencer) length is different from one set to the other. All has to be taken into consideration during the build. This was an interesting and simple explanation of how the chambers work. 👍
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
There is so much more to it than what I talked about, but for simplicity sake, I kept the maximum knowledge without making it to complicated for the average Joe to understand! There is thermodynamics to consider, resonance throughout the rev range, the valves, etc.., but that would be a lot more specific from each and every case. Thank you and I really appreciate the comment! :)
@franktaylor7617
@franktaylor7617 4 жыл бұрын
@@StepstoPodium I agree. Exhaust valves, heat factor and so much more. I'm only good enough to be dangerous with a chamber build/modification.😁 It's really hard to explain to someone that has no idea what you're talking about. My coworkers eyes glaze over quickly when I start talking two strokes.😆
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
@@franktaylor7617 I perfectly understand you! 😂 At least you can show them this video so they can look at you in a less alien like way 😆😂😂😂
@richardkey4289
@richardkey4289 4 жыл бұрын
Your bike has a crazy set of pipes.a buddy from school had an RG 500, Iit was a hi tech war machine! ( someone stole it at night downtown )
@franktaylor7617
@franktaylor7617 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardkey4289 Thanks. They were Jolly Moto's. We modified them to fit the Honda chassis and swapped out the aluminum cans for carbons. It was a very low budget project but in spite if that, it came out really nice. I've changed very little from the original setup.
@davidschmidt6013
@davidschmidt6013 4 жыл бұрын
Great channel, just found it tonight. I used to ride a Yamaha 400 Enduro back home in the states. Now I live over here in Thailand where the bike drivers are COMPLETELY NUTS! I would like to get a little bike to putt around on but the situation here is too dangerous, now that I have a little one. But I enjoy your channel, and I'll watch more in the future. Keep up the great work!!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words, I really appreciate it! 😊 Good luck there! Hopefully they don't get crazier than they already are 😅😅😂
@Gazanova85
@Gazanova85 Ай бұрын
Best explanation by far 👌
@airgunbubba2505
@airgunbubba2505 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering the question of why that shape.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
it's a pleasure! Thank you for the comment, I appreciate it 😊
@kingkora9538
@kingkora9538 4 жыл бұрын
Always wondered why they were shaped like this but never bothered to search for it 😂. Thank you for the explanation 😊
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help man! 😁
@glennroberts461
@glennroberts461 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. It answered a question I've had for some time since I used to fly 2 stroke engines on RC aircraft.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help! 😊
@geraldfronda6241
@geraldfronda6241 4 жыл бұрын
a very educational video for 2 stroke lovers like me.
@hardtarget2359
@hardtarget2359 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! You expalined it perfectly adequate in simple terms. Its amazing how complicated a 2 stroke exhaust can be. The harmonic resonance is CRUCIAL to a 2 stroke's performance!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much man,I really appreciate it! 😀
@michaelnesbitt4260
@michaelnesbitt4260 4 жыл бұрын
The pipe shape as far as I know effects the power band greatly
@TommyNitro
@TommyNitro 2 жыл бұрын
Simple and clear explanation. Thanks.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tommy! I appreciate it 👌🙌
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro 4 жыл бұрын
4 stroke headers work in a similar way but are more forgiving since they have an exhaust valve. If the reflected wave is timed right it can help pull exhaust gases out and even help to pull intake change in during valve overlap.
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro 3 жыл бұрын
@@devilselbow At the collector, yes. I'm referring to at the exhaust port. At the collector the negative pressure "tail" of one pulse can help "pull" the positive pressure pulse of an adjoining cylinder if timed correctly. As you probably already know this is referred to as "scavaging". The intake side also benefits from pressure wave timing by helping to "push" more air into the cylinder and it's also why on "racing" cams there is so much overlap as it allows both the intake and exhaust system pulses to "talk to" each other but only in a certain rpm range. That's why they tend to have a rough idle. At low rpm with a lot of overlap you are creating a vacume leak when the intake and exhaust are both open on an intake stroke the piston is trying to pull from both intake and exhaust systems at the same time, which explains why engine vacume goes down with "big" cams. A lot going on.
@rishikeshraj1138
@rishikeshraj1138 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this answer for a very long time.. bt was unable to get such video..thanks for the ansr nd knowledge 🔥✌️🤗
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
💪💪💪💪💪
@markgs6941
@markgs6941 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou.... I've often wondered this, but info is so scarce on it that I just gave up looking. Explained it perfectly!
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you! I appreciate it! 😊💪
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 4 жыл бұрын
But it does not apply to the main purpose of an expansion chamber as for the last ten years of videos of people trying to explain how a two-cycle operates , not one person has ever came up with the true answers yet
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
My goal is to explain the purpose and why that shape of an expansion chamber on a 2 stroke dirt bike, not anything related to the engine or general applications 😉
@MrJames-dk3my
@MrJames-dk3my 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. This is something I have always wondered and now I know great explanation much appreciated.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir! I'm glad I could help! 😊
@toddcoleman5388
@toddcoleman5388 4 жыл бұрын
Very well put and easy to understand.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
thank you very much! I really appreciate it 😊💪
@HuffyBoi_952
@HuffyBoi_952 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Super easy to understand
@PlanetMety
@PlanetMety 4 жыл бұрын
Nice touch with the Spanish subtitle. Keep it up guys
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it but I'm Portuguese and it's Portuguese subtitles lol 😂
@zeegerman6868
@zeegerman6868 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. Clear and concise.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!!
@alex-vc8lq
@alex-vc8lq 3 жыл бұрын
finally i find video that expalins why twostroke engine exhaustpipe looks so weird. i neber kknow that before so thankyou. when i was young i dirive many different mopeds some have normal exhaus pipe and some have that kind of pipe you show us and we called them powerpipes and we do not even know why or how it gives more power 😄 some times i even think it.s give more power because it,s thicker than normal pipe althought the end of the pipe was not thicker at all and then we make power mufflers just taking out all things that are inside the muffler and and we think no we get more power although we get only more noise and maybe stupidest thing we do was to take whole exhaus pipe off and if im right like tthe motor makes less power and more noise and nothing else but we was kids and have mopeds so it,s almost have to try to tuning it faster. best tuning was change the chain gears that way we get the mopeds accelerate faster but stop speed got lover of course but it feels faster.
@StepstoPodium
@StepstoPodium 3 жыл бұрын
Glad i could help! 💪💪
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