How Do You Know Someone’s Great?

[@jakebyee]

This has got to be the most unexpected crossover. But seeing Jordan and Andrew think through these things was really cool!!

[@Travvv94]

Watch the full pod it's like a year or so old

[@eugenijusdolgovas9278]

You weren't paying attention.

[@boony7544]

Nah the Peterson Ronaldo crossover was more unexpected

[@hershspowerwashservice8277]

the theo von was the best unexpected duo . & they did a few together

[@gronksteady]

@@Travvv94 titled: "Jordan Peterson Shares the Best Major to Get You Laid" that's amazing lmao

[@jamespungello8361]

What's great about this is how Schulz is legitimately thinking this through and asking good questions but he's also a comedian so he has to throw a few jokes here or there but Peterson is SO focused on the topic that the jokes bounce right off him like bullets off Superman.

[@navid535]

It feels so weird when you make the best jokes and the other guy is too into the discussion to give a duck Love them both

[@adamingram9014]

naw Schulz seems drunk and scared

[@adamingram9014]

Schulz is imitating someone that cares and understands haha

[@medinywaw7435]

Bro, Schulz literally has a psych degree from UC berkley

[@IncriminatedAntelope]

I love seeing Andrew's brain get picked because he has genuine down to earth questions

[@coal_tactical]

he hides his intelligence but yea i like when he decides to dive into these deeper topics

[@freegame8628]

Great comment, great way to put it...big part of why I enjoy his commentary either than the obvious fact that he's hilarious

[@SkillzKillzBR]

He's an extremely creative person and his creativity and curiosity extend far beyond comedy.

[@book3100]

Don't you love seeing the switches flip and the lights come on? It's beautiful when someone realizes a thing. ❤️

[@TheSSEssesse]

Everybody talking about Peterson and not admiring how good Schultz is at provoking an incredible conversation and playing “the audience”. Bravo brother 👏

[@profitecturebydesign3646]

4:46 "We are so afraid of power, that we're willing to dispense with greatness entirely..." 🤯🤯🤯

[@Razear]

People that are chasing greatness are chasing competence. People that chase power are corrupted by ulterior motives.

[@dracomessup]

But there are people who get to power because they are competent and then get corrupted by power, so from outset it's difficult to distinguish this..... or that's what I think.

[@Fighting_Fatigue_117]

I love seeing people doing a great job and enjoying it at the same time.

[@Future_looksbright]

I actually forgot about this episode. Worth a rewatch. A fan of both of these gentlemen. ✊

[@mostafatarekadam8861]

Dr Peterson once said: "Speak, vision, and the willingness to confront the terrible unknown, that is what should rule". this clip reminded me of that

[@mostafatarekadam8861]

@@highestsettings Yeah exactly what I was thinking

[@elinope4745]

The difference between someone seeking power and someone seeking greatness is the difference between seeking freedom and seeking glory. Power breaks your chains, greatness ensures you are remembered.

[@seintmike7907]

This conversation with single handedly be responsible for great change amongst its viewers. I was laughing at the same time as Andrew without watching him, because Doctah P was elucidating us on some truthspeak. Fantastic, Bravo, 10 out of 5

[@ogunkazel8716]

Very well said;" when society is corrupt then the Powerful rule, when society isn't corrupt then the Great have authority!".

[@BohemianKitsch]

i just became a legit fan of Peterson. his clarity is FIRE. he's not even saying anything complex, but he's incredibly LUCID.

[@dannyrene]

Watch his Maps of Meaning lecture series from 2017.. legit life changing. In his 2016 MoM lecture #1 he starts off by asking the class why they are there and everybody said that they had a friend who told them this class changed their life… his Personality lecture series is incredible too btw

[@BohemianKitsch]

@@dannyrene nice. THANK YOU. i'll check it out.

[@nvtv9943]

Dude. I’m blown away about this discussion. Amazing.

[@KEW-pd1jn]

The difference between them, is willingness and follow through. Anyone can be willing to do what’s right, The follow through is what proves if they are going to or not.

[@KEW-pd1jn]

@@gezenews very true. We Do what is right because it’s good for us, not because greatness demand’s it.

[@FahadofBrooklyn]

The depths and volumes this conversation has is universefold. What an amazing insight into human motivation

[@djredrover]

Universefold … I had never heard/seen that word before!

[@FahadofBrooklyn]

@@djredrover lol that’s because I have a terrible habit of making new words. Not like the crazy woke mob but with some level of intellect put into it

[@djredrover]

@@FahadofBrooklyn no worries mate! That’s how language evolves. As long as its not any new pronouns, make away!! Ahah

[@felixbarragan5968]

Dude. I love the matchup! Jordan Peterson taught me through his first 12 rules of life that one should think before they speak and you can clearly see that happening!!! I love it. Keep pushing for greatness!!!

[@levihelms1149]

Watching JP lay out the greatest meme in history bundled with a low key complement and as Schultz comprehends he understands Christ within... brilliant... now those are magic words.

[@cheychey_pronouncedShy-Shy]

Great conversation and brilliant articulation of each idea.

[@Leppalimes]

This is a great discussion, technically speaking.

[@PeeGee85]

I think the only way to distinguish greatness from power, is to make sure it can always be challenged. In the case of say the Olympics, this isn't a problem, since everyone is tested the same way every round, and sitting champions don't just get to change the rules. Organisations where whoever is at the top can make sure they stay at the top, without having to prove themselves or being open to challenge, those seem to tend to ossify.

[@dracomessup]

You are on to something 👏

[@telekoadmasu6353]

There is no difference, in the end ppl who are seeking greatness, are seeking power inside them, cuz that will give them access to everything

[@_jow]

greatness in the purest sense need not be challenged, i feel like that's built into the definition. great people do seem to leave themselves open to being challenged if that's what you meant, though.

[@sauze_5607]

@@telekoadmasu6353 they’re entirely different, did people not take English 1 lol

[@Ifraneljadida]

Marcus Aurelius is a great example of someone in history who got a ton of power (emperor of prime Rome) and managed to not be corrupted. Stoicism

[@MasteryOrder]

That is indeed true and remarkable at the same time. A great example to look up to. I invite you to explore the videos I share on the Mastery Order Channel if you enjoy ideas about mastery and masculinity. Challenge yourself with some concepts about manhood, explore your masculine potential to the maximum and become the kind of man you would admire. We can only better ourselves together, as men among men, so I invite you to use what I share and, of course, share your own opinions so that others can benefit from them as well. Looking forward to your points of view. All the best to you!

[@gertduvenhage2822]

Hello Jordan, I would be wonderful if you could come to South Africa. You have a significant following here and the people of this country could use your sober thoughts on the dynamics of power and government. Much love from SA

[@offroad5798]

I love that Dr Peterson has been incorporating Christ in most of his conversations lately. It all goes back to Him.

[@brodoor7273]

Geez expect to watch a powerful clip, but I end up learning from a great and powerful lesson. Geez. All things have power, but not all things are great. Power is not special, but greatness is unique. My conscience is elevated!

[@condealexandervonhasslerra5527]

I love the way JP dismantle an idea to explain the corner stone of it and then construct it again, but this time u see it in a totally different way.

[@TruthBTold-bh9gt]

Jordan stays blowing Andrew's mind!!! Love this match up

[@rileywhittenberger5258]

Jordan, need more of this with Andrew Shultz. very good stuff...

[@artdeluxe5625]

This conversation is so unexpected between these two …so interesting. Great crossover

[@aftabahmed6809]

look at andrew . that is how u react whn u really witness greatness. an admirable conversation

[@LordMisunderstoodSnape]

Sir, you lit up a candle and you showed me the way.

[@sprezzatura8755]

These two are a great combination. Stand up comics help keep the line open on free speech. Crucially important.

[@nrvous_250gt]

"No dream is too big. No challenge is too great. Nothing we want for our future is beyond our reach." - Donald Trump I'm not a fan of the man, but it's a damn fine quote.

[@ihavetubes]

Great President

[@nrvous_250gt]

@@ihavetubes great source of division

[@Travvv94]

@@ihavetubes great or mimicking greatness

[@swinnyuk6584]

Separate to what was said in the video, I think that greatness is the ability to be a light to yourself but, at the same time, you’re not arrogant about it and do everything that you can to share your greatness with the world. A true teacher aims for his student to know everything that he does. He holds nothing back, and gives it all away. The world is sorely in need of people like this, IMO. Everybody wants to save the world, but nobody wants to save themselves. When this is your attitude, you only perpetuate a victim mindset, and nothing improves. I guess Jordan’s rule “get your house in order before you criticise the world” is applicable here.

[@swinnyuk6584]

My theory about this is that people who are a light to themselves are light houses. The ships can choose to sail over to them, or not. Those that choose to also become light houses. Thusly, the medicine spreads. This is, imo, how you REALLY make a difference in the world, and anybody is capable of it.

[@Prosamski]

Gosh, he is so good.

[@melissadavis225]

Andrew reminds me of a guy I recently dated looks almost exactly like him he's a very funny guy and and very handsome and I love watching Jordan's videos watch daily a lot love how you got Andrew racking his brain ...

[@jmaj4521]

the crossover i never knew i needed

[@tigizarts1105]

I love the way J. P can expand and also narrow down his thought process. The ability the breakdown complex topics is a sign of greatness and to make people laugh while doing it is omega level skill. So Neil deGrasse is my Jesus or my Franklin Rechards. Coincidentally he is a Jew too😊.

[@louiseroherty4694]

The opposite of admiration is envy. Admiration aspires to develop greatness. Envy aspires to steal the greatness.

[@MrTrollbaby]

Love it. Thanks once again for providing me with understanding

[@christinelucas3814]

Iron sharpens iron, greatness gets recognized!

[@GetUnlabeled]

The MIMICRY of greatness, yesssss

[@djredrover]

The people in power in Iran right now, the Islamic republic, is the THE best example of tyranny and the powerful mimicking greatness (in terms of Islam and moral superiority as the mechanism, in this case) to stay in power. Very well explained Dr.

[@mariagarced1013]

You are indeed a great man, Pescador de Hombres. Andrew, has great potential, and I believe he's a good man. He should marry his girlfriend if he isn't already, and become a father. If that's not what he chooses to do, he will indeed become older, and can have a lot of different people on his show in time. He's very intelligent. Gracias, Pescador de Hombres! Te amo!

[@lbrambo5623]

10:00 A1 sauce of knowledge . Andrew took that comment in.

[@johnleven8907]

I admire both these gentlemen!

[@YamiPatel747]

Greatness is greatness Starts with selflessness

[@9latinumStudioz]

Keep building gentlemen 🤙

[@toddwright7567]

Again amazing in 2 ways, the content first of all and the fact that it’s amazingly too short!

[@nostalgicviewz007]

great topic, stunned by both's ability to consider and impressive certainty with Peterson

[@xXBossManStatusXx]

Damn Jordan’s been under attack for so long that’s he’s now in attack mode 24/7

[@TechnoMinarchist]

0:30 I'd say Emperor Marcus Aurelius of Rome fits this.

[@Robert_H_Brown]

Thank you Jordan Peterson

[@MasteryOrder]

I invite you to explore the videos I share on the Mastery Order Channel if you enjoy ideas about mastery and masculinity. Challenge yourself with some concepts about manhood, explore your masculine potential to the maximum and become the kind of man you would admire. We can only better ourselves together, as men among men, so I invite you to use what I share and, of course, share your own opinions so that others can benefit from them as well. Looking forward to your points of view. All the best to you!

[@DerGoRaN96]

i think people rarely want just power, they want some side product of power, the pride, the ego boost, the illusion/non-illusion of responsablity, the admeration, the abilty to shape something, the control or something else. Just power is a shallow goal, if u just want power u are pridefull and your ego thinks u need it to be worth something or to be better then somebody but i think thats rare. the feeling of power seems more like a reward.

[@kostyanowich]

I see admiration from Andrew's eyes

[@jamescurrie2246]

Forget ambitions, apply passion, unobstruct the phenomena of yourself, then you were great and powerful, relatively speaking.

[@MCtok11]

Dang that was good.

[@troyallenart817]

Great Conversation..💯☯️💯

[@Lightexo]

This is the most serious I’ve seen Andrew, ever 😂

[@luisborges2048]

Of course these two gentlemen had to sit together and have that conversation. Why? Because they are both concerned and intrigued by the truth. The truth is something objective, as much as people wish to think is subjective, it isn't, people can be wrong and most of the time we are. The life long journey of pursuing the truth, that's admirable and it is something we all should aim at.

[@hellybelle5]

Not magic, as lots of people can do that, they're miracles 💕

[@_jow]

miracles are a catholic invention so they'd have an excuse to genocide anyone doing anything magical without their express blessing.

[@debolinaroy3123]

Great people can do great things with power,

[@97JG]

While listening to this I think of nepotism or “daddy’s money” vs someone who worked for what they got. The former has power but isn’t great. The latter became great and powerful. This is what makes CEO’s hired from within the company and presidents/government with military backgrounds more “admirable” to use Jordan’s word as above.

[@Figjamfishslayer]

We have to get back to individual greatness. Attaining Greatness for the admiration it may bring fouls the image of greatness. It should be a matter of deep, personal pride. Not an ego prop.

[@Someone-pt5nc]

Jordan peterson is a prophet

[@thebrandfather.]

Love Andrew's mind.

[@navid535]

It feels so weird when you make the best jokes and the other guy is too into the discussion to give a duck Love them both

[@LuiWicho]

Hope one day you’ll be able to be on a Flagrant episode with the rest of the gang

[@Theheardrecords]

Dang Dr P! Right on man!

[@Two_But_Not_Two]

They tell you that they are a very stable genius.

[@Balancing_burger]

This is glorious

[@hollywiley5668]

I’ll tell u what the difference is.. Great people are fearless and not afraid to take risks..

[@rd3914]

His professor came out

[@anijon]

Such a cool interview.

[@chrisforbis1819]

Hillary Clinton is the best example I can think of. That’s why I think The Don “rang true” to his voters because he wanted greatness, but he also desires power too much. Hillary to me only wanted power.

[@AR-kz4zg]

would love to see an analysis and research by Dr. Peterson regarding the prevalence of Psychopaths or psychopathy as well as sociopaths in workplaces, specially in the corporate sector

[@tinker1538]

Let me just say this... If you've ever been around to witness true power you'll know it for sure. Greatness as a working process, is managed overtime. But Great Power. Has yet to be seen on this earth.......I believe

[@bobdpa]

You had me at Roooosevelt 😄🙋‍♂️

[@arturocastillejos73]

This was unexpected I am very much happy I saw this video

[@elisabeth4342]

THIS is MY comedy - asking an insult comic to define "greatness." THIS is genius. SRS

[@brodydezeeuw]

This power thought relates to expression of life vs survival

[@LOVEYAH09]

Knew CHRIST was gonna be brought up in this conversation before watching. YAHUAH the GOD of the Israel who became man to show us true love is ultimate greatness. Alpha and omega the great I AM! Peace,love,health and blessings be with you always brother! ❤

[@Krossd1]

Great conversation

[@tmyoshimura621]

Appreciate you.

[@brandonbrodbeck6688]

A major problem is that its easier to gain power in a bad way and its also sometimes needed. So people see hey I need to push people around or out of the way in order to make sure if any one has the power its me.

[@VinOptimaxxx]

I assume by 'gaining power in a bad way' you mean through violence, and by 'it's sometimes needed' you mean to overthrow a tyrant. I would argue that in that instance it's justified and therefore not bad, as long as the overthrower doesn't also become a tyrant.

[@frankcloutier5495]

How do you differentiate between Greatness and the mimickery of Greatness? I think the Greats SHOW you how great they are and why people adulate them whereas someone in a position of power who hasn't achieved any level of greatness will TELL you how and why they're so great (in their mind). An impersonator of greatness will never be able to deliver competence that will meet the expectations that Greatness organically creates. Greatness naturally leads to Power whereas Power does NOT necessarily lead to Greatness

[@lll2530]

Mr. Peterson exercising rule number nine.

[@holisticpsychologybyobrien]

I hope that Jordan Peterson will have Christopher M. Langan on his podcast one day.

[@Leonlion0305]

That is a really interesting deconstruction of Christianity and why Jesus become so popular in the West. It also remind me how in pre-modern China, the intellectuals all strive to be a perfect person, "君子"(junzi). This "thing" is used in idioms to describe what a junzi would do or wouldn't do, kind of like "What would Jesus do" for the West. It is also used as a compliments/praise when you admire someone's action, most commonly when someone is being a gentlemen.

[@uppityglivestockian]

Placido Domingo, Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Dr Peterson. To name a few.

[@abdulr4040]

yo the way he laugh in the middle is so jokes. Jordan B probably thinking this goof had no clue where he at

[@jimmcfarland9318]

I have a question: do the great always or often recognize their own greatness, and can this become destabilizing?

[@solaveritas2]

It'a a good question and I don't know the right answer but I'm guessing that more often they recognize their own inadequacies rather than their greatness. This keeps them humble and working towards a higher goal, rather than resting on their laurels of greatness.

[@otomeauthor]

I would say that the great don't recognize their greatness, but recognize their responsibility to a domain. They're more focused on the domain, how to improve it, how to contribute to it, and how to push themselves in it. This is what makes them admirable to the rest of us, because they're not focused on themselves, but on their responsibilities in the domain instead. The self-sacrifice makes them great.

[@paulstevenson1712]

GOAT

[@pup4301]

I want the power to support my self without the benefit having to completely rely on the greater world.

[@eonryan8491]

2:46 5:18 5:59 6:54 9:20

[@YourBestFriendforToday]

A direct response with a name, George Washington.

[@EisonDoesEverything]

I think Jordan would love to read Vinland Saga

[@bbickerstaff23]

The Torah and scripture contain nuggets that withstand the test of time

[@eigojiyouzu]

It’s literally Jordan speaking to Andrew like any other student of his. Really getting andrew hamster wheels moving.