How Dr. Peter Attia Gained 1lb of Muscle Per Month (Protein & Amino Acids)

[@alphabeta8403]

2:00 50g protein max per serving 4:00 Important amino acids 6:30 No BCAAs needed

[@nik07nik]

I recall Peter saying he lost a lot of lean muscle fasting. It appears he just put it back on which is the same trick so many, like Tim Ferris do,

[@RC_NotTheCola]

Its really easier than you think if you focus. I dropped from 240 to 180 (large frame, 6ft) via clean food but no real protein over 2+ years. I had decent muscle mass prior but realized at 180 I had the least amount of muscle and strength ever in my life. I refocused to try build up to 150+g protein and still clean otherwise and start back at the gym after decades away. After 10 months I feel great and can tell I've put on significant muscle but I'm still about 180. Also not really ever hungry

[@esims10s]

Definitely not reading all the comments while unintentionally disregarding the discussion 🙂‍↔️

[@ChrisHargrave23]

I generally love Dr Attia (lowercase “l”) but recommending that people track individual amino acids is just too much. 😆

[@johnbmw550i]

I think it's BS

[@GregKingston]

One of the many times that what works for him is not feasible for the average person. He's next level ocd and data driven. His data tracking intensity would drive most people insane.

[@ChrisHargrave23]

@@GregKingston 100%

[@davidreynie5235]

According to the most recent literature, it seems that protein timing is not relevant after all. Peter might not agree with it and if that’s the case I’d love to know why. But I’m surprised he did not even mention this debate.

[@chillie000]

When are you supposed to time it? I understand the post workout window to prevent catabolism (and aid anabolism)

[@SuperDodoe]

He's a fkn lying bullshiter that's why. All about him making more money

[@TheBswan]

Peter is not up to date on the latest protein distribution literature. Even 100g protein in one meal results in proportional increase to muscle protein synthesis. See paper titled: "The anabolic response to protein ingestion during recovery from exercise has no upper limit in magnitude and duration in vivo in humans"

[@alarson2018]

"A final consideration is that we investigated healthy, young men following a bout of whole-body resistance exercise and do not know if our observations can be extrapolated to other populations and/or conditions." Trommelen et. al., 2023

[@filipfrelak254]

Bro is citing a study from december 2023, while the episode aired on march 2023.

[@kevinsutube1p528]

That study isn’t as simple as you make it out to be and DEFINITELY DOESN’T SHOW that eating all your protein at 1 or 2 meals can max out your protein synthesis as well as doing 4 meals of protein

[@nichtsistkostenlos6565]

The study was good and certainly shakes up our understanding of protein consumption, but it was VERY limited in scope. They used a very specific type of protein (casein) that is specifically known to be slow absorbing. We have no idea if these findings extend to other forms of protein or in other populations than the ones tested. You and many other people in this space are incorrectly extrapolating the findings of this study.

[@donspradley6912]

Keep in mind.. no matter what any study shows or says, try it! Try it on yourself for a period of time and evaluate the results! Anytime someone gets in the comments section and comes off extremely confident is a red flag for me.

[@willsimmons2770]

My only question is... Does 1 gram per pound of body weight actually scale? If someone is 250 or 300 pounds, that would equal 250 - 300 grams of protein per day. Seems excessive?

[@2RBeast]

If they’re muscular they would need they 250-300 due to their overall weight and muscle mass plus other activity that requires profile

[@2RBeast]

Protein

[@A.P.Garland]

Oh please...track individual amino acids? Most people struggle with just getting to the gym regularly. This really is rabbit hole content.

[@chadproton]

Which is 100% applicable to A LOT of the people who have the interest in watching a video like this one.

[@Buzz_Kill71]

Very esoteric conversation indeed, but it is relevant. The entire space of longevity requires one have an ability to sit through a lot of boring material...😮

[@boatoflol]

Seeing that cell membranes get built out fats derived from your bloodstream (from your foods pretty much) I would, from a health standpoint, consider fats a "building block" nutrient as well.

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Hevia-Larrain and colleague's 2021 clinical trial in untrained young men showed so long as daily protein is 1.6g/kg it doesn't appear to matter of one is vegan or omnivore as the gains in muscle mass and strength were the same between groups doing 12 weeks of resistance training. Might this be different in trained people or people of different ages? Maybe. But it does support the wider idea that 1.6g/kg is a very solid protein target for most people. Spreading out protein more evenly may be superior for satiety and help weight loss/weight maintenance.

[@briancarey3143]

My satiety and weight maintenance is better with two daily boluses -- up to 90g late morning and 110g evening!

[@cherylh4688]

Please explain what kilograms you are referring to when you say "1.6g/kg" of protein. Is that kg of total actual weight, including body fat, or ideal weight or lean muscle mass or...? Thank you in advance for your reply.

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

@@cherylh4688 thanks for asking! So the original analysis by Morton and colleagues from 2018 is 1.6g/kg of bodyweight. Ive adopted a heuristic where I'll use 1.6g/kg of estimated fat free mass in clients of mine who currently have obesity as this helps better control calories. As you can probably imagine if someone is 250lbs (113.6 kg) with 32% bodyfat lets say, eating 1.6g/kg of protein will occupy way more of their calories (182g/day) vs going off of fat free mass estimates which brings the protein target closer to 120g. I individualize from here further but thats my general model i like to start with to provide greater macroutrient balance initially. In people who dont have as much body fat I'll use 1.6g/kg of bodyweight especially if they are reying to bulk. Still individualizing is a key step. I'll tend to keep 1.4g/kg as the lowest target since thats also the low end of the protein range recommendation by the ISSN 2017 position stand on protein.

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

@@cherylh4688 in this specific trial it was kg of overall bodyweight. An important consideration to make when dosing protein or other nutrients off of body weight is dependent on what the person's actual body weight is and if dosing based on body weight would produce large nutrient displacement. For example, when I'm working with clients and they have very high body fat percentages say 32% body fat and weigh 250 lb (hypothetically), If I were to dose their protein based off of 1.6 g per kg of overall body mass then they would be getting 182 g of protein per day which might take up far too many of their daily calories and create an imbalanced and perhaps unsustainable approach to their overall nutrition. So in this instance I would take their estimated lean body mass and apply the 1.6 grams per kilogram of protein figures to their fat free mass which would then get us to 120 g of protein as opposed to 182 g. But if I'm working with somebody who wants to gain body mass then I'll use 1.6 grams of protein per kilogram of overall body weight. That's my general heuristic but I then individualize and tailor the recommendation and overall nutrition further beyond that guiding principle that I've come to adopt. Hope that helps!

[@briancarey3143]

​@@cherylh4688Ideal weight!

[@ninjashhh8344]

QUESTION: How do you poop when consuming that much protein???? ……I ask because I was consuming half my body weight on avg and added about just 25-30g of good quality whey protein isolate and collagen and it has totally messed up my flow and even just how good I felt regarding digestion before. I never have problems w digestion or feeling bloated or going to bathroom etc. eat pretty healthy mix of organic veggies and fruits as well as smoothies loaded w healthy stuff, eggs, and a mix of ground meat, salmon, tuna, some chicken, healthy fats like avocado, extra virgin olive oil,macadamia nuts, chia seeds, etc Just wondering if there is something you recommend to take to offset or balance the extra protein you are consuming for easier, better digestion and flow

[@chillie000]

Give it a few weeks and you should adjust. The gut is extremely trainable.

[@MarkColemanRocks]

In my case on a keto diet I have to keep my fat up to over 60% of calories. Mct oil and butter in coffee can get things moving. Also walking desk helps.

[@alienturtle1946]

For gut problems, the three initial steps I can think of are fiber quantity (have food for gut biota), fermented foods (introduce gut biota), and of course hydration. The second isn't helpful without the first (no home/food for introduced biota to stick around). It sounds like you're very health conscious so fiber quantity may not be an issue; but it's still worth mentioning because while the list of foods you mentioned sounds great, it doesn't mention quantities. So it could be worth doing some fiber calculations and making some adjustments accordingly. I've definitely seen people eat the right foods but not in the right quantities, and think that's sufficient. If that's in check, I'd suggest introducing some fermented foods. My favorites are yogurt and kefir. Sometimes kombucha. I'm sure there are many options out there, including sauerkraut and kimchi, but be sure to look for ones with live cultures (unpasteurized). Typically they are refrigerated. I haven't tried probiotic supplements, but that's an option as well. Adequate hydration is obviously important for gut transit too. Lots of water, some electrolytes, light urine. Clear isn't necessary, but avoid dark and preferably avoid medium. I find keeping a (metal) bottle on hand and sipping frequently throughout the day to be most effective (versus gulping large amounts that quickly get excreted). If you get all that dialed in and still have problems, well, I wish you the best because it's above my paygrade, lol.

[@ninjashhh8344]

@@alienturtle1946 thanks for the detailed reply. i do take in enough fiber. I used to drink A LOT of water years ago until I learned that drinking too much water can actually deplete the body of salts and electrolytes it needs. Still do drink basically only water and smoothies that contain (whole plain Greek yogurt and other things), but I also realize how much water I get from things like fruits and veggies I eat and now more so just drink water when the body tells me to. I think the easiest way for people to be healthy all around is to think what humans survived on 10.000 years ago and eat that and you’re good to go because our bodies have evolved over hundreds of thousands of years to survive and thrive on that. One interesting thing I learned recently when researching protein and collagen was that many people don’t get the collagen they need because it is contained in the bones, tendons, skin, grizzle of meat that we used to eat and that is why ground beef is actually good to eat because it does contain all that, unlike perfectly cut meats many people only consume. Have been meaning to throw in sauerkraut and/or kimchi and always forget to grab at store and even the water thing I think you just reminded me of the most basic thing that I probably have not been consuming enough of the past week . Never had bloated feeling like this before and it’s so obvious to me it is from this protein I’ve added so will have to experiment b/c I have learned enough to know I (and most of us) need more protein than we currently consume. Thanks

[@alienturtle1946]

​@@ninjashhh8344 Definitely do some experimenting. And I'll reiterate quantity. I'm 185 lbs and lift/ruck/run, I eat 170-200g protein per day (only 30g from whey), eat about 900g of plant foods per day, drink about 3L per day, and get sufficient electrolytes through diet and supplementation. I don't have digestive issues. Those aren't hard guidelines, but a window into what is possible. Most vegetables only have a couple grams of fiber per 100g. Some whole grains can be double or triple that, but they also come with more calories. Eating a cup of veggies, especially with low diversity, isn't likely to suffice a high protein diet, unless you go carnivore/keto and up the fats to lubricate things. I have had periods of rearranging my diet where I've tried to maintain high protein but unintentionally let the vegetables slip. Not to zero, but to much less. Very quickly my poop became extremely hard, my toilet clogged so bad that only an auger could get it clear. That had never happened before I increased protein. But in about a year of eating this way I haven't had any problems as long as quantities of veg and hydration were in check. Gym bros complain of "protein farts" but I have no such issues; it's highly doubtful they're getting enough vegetables in. Ultimately everyone has to find a solution for them that they're willing to stick with and that works.

[@felipearbustopotd]

Casey Viator According to the study (which has been the source of much controversy), Casey gained 63 pounds of muscle in 28 days. Specifically, he gained 45.28 pounds and lost 19.93 pounds of body fat. I guess Dr. Peter Attia 1lb of Muscle Per Month gain was due to him stopping his fasting protocol and a lot to do with muscle memory, just like the above Casey Viator. Just because it glitters, does not mean it is gold.

[@Ragnar199]

I’m 14.4 percent body fat how many carbs and fats always hearing different peoples opinions on this I want to bulk but lose some fat as well I got told to cut more fat first then bulk???? Let me no Wht yours think

[@SaintLaurentParis]

my 2 favourite bald men

[@lilascharmante2712]

Homer Simpson is my first love too 💗

[@pranakhan]

I appreciate that there is depth to the information, but more so that Dr. Attia is trying to simplify it for those of us that are looking for actionable information to improve our health. Thanks for sharing

[@MikeCapp-e2q]

This guys an experienced lifter and claims 12 lbs of lean mass in 1 year with small tweaks? Give me a break.

[@lasseskov3369]

He also does insane amounts of cardio at times and had many years with consistent long fasts. I don't think it is impossible to put on 12 lbs of lean mass if he started from a way skinnier version of himself and then focused much more on hypertrophy than cardio for that year. Also the gains come quicker if you used to have them earlier in life.

[@TheKiltedGerman]

@@lasseskov3369 but if it's just returning to where he was, that takes all the significance out of his claims. I don't know about you, but the context suggests to me like he's claiming new muscle.

[@johnbmw550i]

Yep total bollx.

[@Bwk3606]

12 lbs of Lean Mass isn't 12 lbs of muscle tissue.

[@lasseskov3369]

@@TheKiltedGerman it sure takes some significance out of the points, but I think that is more likely than him straight up lying about his muscle gain. I agree that it can seem that way in the context of this clip, but you are kind of inferring something that isn't necessarily true

[@allentempleton2429]

Such gains are extremely difficult and unlikely for anyone who has been doing serious weight training for more than a decade and is over 50. Unless the person has been severely restricting calories and taking in a low amount protein durring most of that time the almost all your lean mass gains will occur during the first five years of training. If a person with a long training history does every single thing right they would be lucky to gain one to one half pounds of muscle per year. Actually most serious experienced trainers would be lucky just to hold on to what they have. Of course if you were fasting regularly for years and then went into a calorie and protein surplus you will regain some of the muscle lost durring the fast.

[@marcinmrzyglocki]

Peter is doing Human Randomized Control Trial on himself for his friend.

[@Ragnar199]

I’m 14.4 percent body fat how many carbs and fats always hearing different peoples opinions on this

[@moosiedoom1310]

I feel like we’re splitting hairs here. It’s not as if you will gain no muscle at all doing things slightly differently. The obsession with what is optimal involves fractional differences on the margins.

[@dankspain]

Attia loves to overcomplicate things and dive into a factor that is irrelevant compared, aminoacid tracking?, to let’s say wether he was on a calorie surplus or not. Protein timing should be the least of your concerns if you are on a calorie deficit while trying to maximize gains.

[@ron.mexico.]

Is Tim vaping in the background?

[@Dan-jo8py]

Actually even vegan proteins are very easy; it's beans. There's a reason all cultures have bean based dishes - 2:1 ratio of chickpeas to lentils gives you the same quality of amino acid balance as something like steak...

[@flowpom]

Ok at a global level. but some details can matters. TRT? Creatine? what is leand mass? % of water? More details on his actual training program and diet ( how much Whey and whole food ingredients, frequency)

[@e.o.486]

He said no anabolic steroids that includes trt. Testosterone is the anabolic steroid.

[@chillie000]

Guess you’ll have to watch the whole podcast.

[@CarlosBernard0]

Bro this guy look at inmates and how they pack muscle this is what keeps people from exercising

[@i_would_but_i_wont]

He mentions not taking anabolics, but was he still natural? Attia advocates for TRT usage, which is not natural, and therefore not indicative of the results a natural lifter. That said, 13lbs of lean mass in a year is very doable given the right starting point. If you have impingements or aches you would need to address that first before expecting to make consistent gains in strength and muscle.

[@johnbmw550i]

I find this unbelievable without steriods sorry. I trained for 50+ years and never got near this/.

[@TheKiltedGerman]

15lbs in a year? Had he never exercised before, because those are newbie gain levels of muscle growth. When did he do this? No way a natural guy pulled that off as an experienced lifter at middle age.

[@bigskytraveller289]

15 in a year is pretty modest for a natty, masters lifter, unless he is already well trained. Newbies can do that in three months. Intermediates in six. You do have to progressively lift heavy and eat big and right to do it, but it’s pretty common to see these levels of gain in men who aren’t already lifting near their genetic potential.

[@Mil891]

@@bigskytraveller289 Newbies can gain 15 lbs of muscle in 3 months? No way. Even when I was on a cycle of Anavar with a small dose of Test I didn't gain 15 lbs in 3 months. We're talking muscle mass, not water bloat and glycogen.

[@bigskytraveller289]

My last bulk cycle, as a 52-year-old, I put on 13 lb lean and 9 pounds of fat, as measured by DEXA scan. My weight plateaued after the first three months, but I didn’t get the repeat DEXA until the 5-month mark. 🤷🏼 Anavar is a weak anabolic agent. How was your sleep and diet? Were you lifting progressively heavier weights across the bulk?

[@bigskytraveller289]

And these kinds of gains are not uncommon in the program I use to train.

[@Mil891]

@@bigskytraveller289 It was Anavar with 140mg of test. I was eating 1.2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight, 10% calorie surplus, hitting each muscle group twice a week. I have been lifting for over 10 years. I'm 34 years old. Either you have the strengest muscle building genetics of all time or you didn't read that test correctly.

[@aibochan1764]

Gained ~15lbs muscle mass on 100% vegan/gluten free diet over approx 12 months. Protein in morning and evening was perfect schedule in my experience.

[@chillie000]

How old are you and how much did you train?

[@aibochan1764]

@@chillie000 35, ~4x per week. Push/pull/legs split.

[@pablofarias8902]

What was your daily calorie consumption in relation to your calorie expediture?

[@chillie000]

@@aibochan1764 wow man that’s really impressive, at your age especially (on plant protein alone)

[@lettingglow]

He says he didn't use anabolic steroids... yet in other videos, he's admitted to be on testosterone (THE primary anabolic steroid in the human body). Sooo...

[@GregKingston]

The argument would come down to the dose. He would probably say that he is taking a dose that brings him into normal testosterone ranges for general health benefits . Anabolic steroids would be a dose that intentionally above that range for the purpose of excess hypertrophy.

[@i_would_but_i_wont]

@@GregKingston No. Natural lifters have to account for recovery, which is the main driver of testosterone production. TRT users have a constant rate of testosterone in their system regardless of their state of recovery. It's a huge advantage.

[@lettingglow]

@@i_would_but_i_wont EXACTLY. 💯

[@coldseamonster]

Can you reference where you saw that he admits to TRT? Because he is a doctor that administers it but heard him say he is holding off and not going on TRT himself yet.

[@lettingglow]

@@coldseamonster I’m sorry that I can’t recall exactly - probably the interview with More Plates More Dates 👍👍

[@Mil891]

I strongyl doubt he gained 1 lb of actual muscle tissue in one month. He is 50 years old and has been lifting for many years and is not genetically blessed in terms of muscle building. I don't doubt he gained 1 lb in a month but at least 50% of that was water and glycogen.

[@LouischarlesRoy]

Is on trt too, but its got to be the protein hack 😂😉

[@ravkue6336]

He did alot of fasting for a long time and lost alot of muscle, so when he focused on eating regulary agian and priorited muscle gain im sure he put on that amount in that time period.

[@bumblebower1529]

@@LouischarlesRoyI thought he said he wasn’t on anything ?

[@i_would_but_i_wont]

@@bumblebower1529 He's being dishonest. He said he wasn't on STEROIDS, but he doesn't consider TRT steroids. He's spoken at length of the benefits of TRT usage, though he's always seemed to shy away from admitting personal usage. He's not natty.

[@bumblebower1529]

@@i_would_but_i_wont similar to how huberman says yeah he played around with trt but came off tried a full length 12 week cycle came off didint like it then micro dosed for the brain benefit but then stopped again

[@frankmathews1358]

Tim Ferriss.

[@helder07]

At his age to gain 13lbs of muscle naturally is pretty much impossible. He is not a newby, and protein is not that much of a factor as training is.

[@mikesmicroshop4385]

Dr. Attia needs to do a bit more reading of CURRENT research on protein!

[@TraumaTizedLOL1]

Kevin Spacey's BFF

[@RolemodelU]

It is really amazing how much misinformation Attia puts out there. I used to be obsessed with following him, but growing into the topic, I realized he is talking crap most of the time. Just sad.

[@dustinbrownyt]

Why do you think he does this?

[@RolemodelU]

@@dustinbrownyt His obsession about plant protein being inferior (so many vegan athletes have successfully built solid muscle), the 50g protein per meal is outdated (you can eat easily up to 100g), his views on Leucin/mTOR/longevity (Dr Greger had the opposite view), his stupid obsession with his venison jerky sticks (likely he’ll start selling them soon), and much more. He has become much more arrogant lately which I don’t appreciate. But hey…everybody is free to listen to whomever they want.

[@coach9363]

@@RolemodelUhe’s living rent free in your head. 😂

[@ColinStuckert]

@@RolemodelU he's right on the plant part.

[@m1ndfox]

@@coach9363 To have opinions you also need to listen to people you disagree with.

[@DavidD-cd9em]

beginners have a MUCH longer protein window than more advanced trainees. Exactly the opposite of what he said. Get some one who does not pretend to know everything on.

[@marktapley7571]

No way an experienced lifter in his 50’s is going to add a pound per month of muscle unless he is a steroid junky

[@benjaminkell3726]

Ya he looks rioded up 😂😂😂

[@sp-uf6tx]

Peter is in his 50's. Is protein as important for someone in their 20's?

[@TheKiltedGerman]

Not as important, but still significant. It's the main material (aside from water) that makes up your muscle.

[@StevieDahlen]

I’m thoroughly impressed by the level of expertise in the comments. This Attia fella apparently knows nothing.

[@DrGammaMindset]

15lbs of muscle is not happening without gear end of.

[@SamBoxell]

The most shocking information here, is like always, it’s about balance 😂 Imagine if we just ate 3 meals a day that all had plenty of protein, some fats and some carbs plus a few snacks while lifting heavy weights 😮

[@48kgs]

And if he continues for another 12 months he’ll gain another 1lb per month ad infinitum? Please. This is regain weight which comes back quickly as anyone who’s lifted, stopped for a good while and then started again will attest - he’d do well to clarify this. Or maybe these types of gains are viable for someone who has never lifted before. But really, this obsession with ‘optimising’ and over complicating is pure KZbin content creating BS. Who’s this ‘advice’ really for? Maybe just for the clout? Probably.

[@DavidD-cd9em]

Peter is outdated, I am afraid. Get Menno Henselmanns or Martin Berkhan on the show.

[@Mil891]

@@DavidD-cd9em Is Martin Berkhan still relevant? I remember him from 2011... Always thought he was on roids. Dude was like 6% bodyfat year round with a lot muscle only lifting twice a week and eating two meals a day.

[@LindaDahlVincent]

BCAAs after the age of close to 30 follow the aging process is it supposed to switch to the eaa's to get the full benefit of health and protein synthesis

[@Easyrider22008]

Guy who complicates everything😏tracking aminos sounds nuts for 99% people

[@platogenova9573]

So bodybuilding “bros” had it right all this time…shocker

[@StoneAgePHD]

Carnivores don’t have problems with too much protein:)

[@m1ndfox]

Trenbologna sandwiches

[@victorcs_]

😅

[@maxibluft]

Christ can someone please tell me how to *lose* muscle? Everyone's so obsessed with gaining it, I never had much of an issue with that, but those of us transitioning from male to female are desperately trying to lose muscle mass and STRUGGLING aarrrgh

[@maxibluft]

@@walterh.3170 thanks for weighing in, bud!

[@maxibluft]

@@walterh.3170 ​ thanks so much for weighing in bud 🙏

[@seanwisdom6268]

Attia is always spinning yarn on all these podcast… get out of here Attia… just wants to sell books

[@primalstate]

Lol I gain 3lb per month just eating raw meat

[@DonParsons-zx5eb]

Not possible !

[@yousufleads]

Wat

[@WarfareJournal]

I'm pretty sure Tim gained more than that in a month as part of 4 Hour Body 🤔

[@nellynandes]

He did, but Tim was also trying to gain muscle in a short amount of time.

[@scamponept]

Occams protocol ?

[@AdamMc192]

You would not gain 12lbs of muscle in a month even on a huge amount of steroids.

[@kevinsutube1p528]

He clearly didn’t gain more then 12lb of muscle mass in a month but on steroids people definitely can

[@nichtsistkostenlos6565]

@@kevinsutube1p528 No, you cannot. Your body literally cannot process the necessary amount of protein fast enough for this to be biologically possible.

[@Tony-m3p1v]

🙏✝️🤴😄👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@hedjuk]

The answer is steroids, he takes steroids.

[@monetarier]

first

[@EllaGreenn]

Dammit 😂

[@chibis247]

@@EllaGreenn😂

[@paulbuxtom5120]

I really like peter but I can’t fathom why a super fit lean muscular guy with no co morbidities would take a statin. I can only assume he is being sponsored.

[@bigskytraveller289]

His cholesterol is quite high without the statin, and his target cholesterol level for himself, and his patients, is significantly lower than most recommendations. I forget the exact numbers, but he’s discussed them in the past.

[@fluffyscruffy]

He has family history of hypercholesterolemia. Taking a statin at a (relatively) young age reduces exposure to what leads to atherosclerosis.

[@nichtsistkostenlos6565]

Statins are not the boogeyman that people make them out to be. A low-dose statin in many people causes absolutely no side effects and lowers LDL/ApoB significantly. For people with naturally high LP(a) or a history of hypercholesterolemia, they're an excellent, easy, low-risk intervention.

[@CharlieFader]

He has high LDL / ApoB, probably caused by his diet.

[@SuperDodoe]

@@CharlieFader 100 percent...all he eats is his own branded meat jerky sticks hench the "get more protein" stick