How fast Ralf Schumacher was in Austria 2022 compared to modern F1 cars

[@loyalfrog9974]

the 2003 had more power but less aero you could see that everytime Ralf would gain on the straight he's lose on the corners, i mean just imagine if the new 2026 rules went back to 2003 style cars.. holy moly

[@sulphurous2656]

not surprising considering this is the williams we're talking about, they couldn't exactly into aero after newey left

[@wollo6]

@@sulphurous2656 it was literally the fastest car of 2003 in ralfs hands

[@emersoncaicedo3146]

@@sulphurous2656 rewatch the 03 season and say that again…

[@fetusofetuso2122]

the car also had 100 less hp

[@toxy3580]

2003 had nowhere near as much power lol it just weighs less

[@JB-dy2sq]

That Williams was just AMAZING 😍 the speed and the sound 👍

[@HarryLikesCars]

And that car was downtuned 100 hp and ralph hadnt raced in f1 for over a decade

[@neilwhitaker6284]

The noise it made when braking and downshifting is one of the best things in the world! And second last bend coming around with high rpms is almost as good :) The long bend before entering the pit straight I meant .

[@Jamo_7811]

It’s mad to think that only 2 drivers (max and Charles) had faster times in quali than Ralf, who is in his late 40s and hasn’t driven the car in nearly 20 years. Also consider that the Williams wasn’t the fastest car. If you get one of his brothers Ferraris or kimi’s mclarens or Alonso’s Renaults and put a young driver in it e.g. Alonso. He could very well be able to beat the 2022 pole time of max.

[@fetusofetuso2122]

and 100 hp less than the original spec

[@nagodrelord9855]

See 2 cars hear 1

[@zorkitipafed4626]

DHL fucks up their clips by overlaying the sound with a dogshit music. This is aside from the fact that modern Formula 1 cars have an engine sound like a McLaren MP4/6 doing low revs. No reason to use this.

[@brq838]

who cares about V6 sound? lol

[@bigchillinpodcast]

Ralf is way better than all his haters lol

[@zorkitipafed4626]

Doesn't matter if he chose to be a moron. Nelson Piquet is 4 times champion but still one of the most disrespectful and thus one of the most disrespected people in F1.

[@erwinr9328]

@@zorkitipafed4626 *3

[@deusmuerte6832]

Ralf was bad driver, Ralf still bad driver but today is more disgusting.

[@hans-jurgenpeters5614]

@@deusmuerte6832 thats probably the reason why he won races lol

[@sssss4644]

@@zorkitipafed4626 Typical internet people, mate. Look at the like count. It's either like or hate. When they hate someone, all the things that person has done are bad. When they really like someone, all the things that person has done are good. It's not like, "I don't really like X, but I guess he's good at Y."

[@finnfisu]

Old cars were so much better

[@NillerMann]

I wouldn’t say that they were better, but they were certainly much more spectacular!

[@VisionSSG]

engine wise, yes but safety wise no not at all

[@leart78]

@@VisionSSGthe rise of the safety destroyed the sport. F1 it has become like a video game and the driver counts almost nothing

[@joarnold9495]

​@leart78 do you want a driver to be hospitalised every race, or do you want them to actually race

[@leart78]

@@joarnold9495 well didn't said that, but at this point of 10000% risk free it's better to play a race that it's remoted from the box. having a driver inside the car means nothing anymore. till the 90s and 2000s drivers had to have balls to push the car to the limit. nowadays they are like little girls crying all the time

[@Unedited2022]

Mother of god, i miss that sound.

[@michaellavery4899]

If Ralf really did the 1.08, it says so much about those cars compared to presemt day F1 cars. I know I prefered the old cars driving style, compared to present day cars, despite there being fewer overtaking manoeuvres. Electronics have spoiled F1.

[@mondexponent2126]

Which Electronics? Hybrid and ERS?

[@michaellavery4899]

@@mondexponent2126 It seems like incorporating these into the power plant has made it so complex, potential manufacturers have been put off competing in F1. Surely it doesn't have to be so complex if it can be run in road cars 'reliably'. Also, the amount of changes the drivers has to make to the various settings he has access to is removing the essence of 'pure driving'. It's not just F1. It's road cars too. Parts are sealed and disposed of because a sensor doesn't like a reading. Quite often the sensor is at fault, but it can take a lot of time and money to identify this due to the electrical complexity involved.

[@Jamo_7811]

@@mondexponent2126 hybrid certainly has killed the sound and soul of a f1 car. Even the 1.5L turbos from the 80s sound much better nevermind the naturally aspirated cars of the 90s and 00s.

[@JarrylKhan]

Ralf explained himself that it's mainly because modern F1 cars are 200KG heavier, which made them more safe.

[@bobtuiliga8691]

I think it's mostly down to the tire rules. The drivers have to focus on being super smooth now to even get the tires to perform over a single lap. I prefer the old days seeing the cars moving around much more.

[@Iambatman1939]

Great video, thanks for sharing 👍🏼🍺

[@jacquesparpaing3217]

🗣️🗣️IT’S CALLED A1 RING 🇦🇹

[@vectro4284]

It was.. 😁

[@aidevuvdupkataaa]

@@vectro4284🤓

[@thehwguy4293]

And before that, Österreichring

[@godemperor.ofTerra]

Zeltweg

[@vagabond142]

Technically, it was called the Österreichring before it became an F1 grade 1 track

[@obilk7355]

that sound is so good

[@jakubkrcma]

Now imagine the F2004 on slicks...

[@FLMKane]

Now for the f2004 with slicks.

[@thesourceofthenile]

This car had traction control originally, just as other F1 cars from that point until after 2008. I don't think it would've needed it to run fast with slicks and likely just used the lowest setting for help with getting on the power faster with corner exit. F1 was dangerous because of grooved tires until TC allowed the cars to become much more driveable. Even greats such as Hakkinen and Schumacher would crash while leading races or performing at the top due to grip-related issues. These cars deserved slick tires and it's nice to see that V10 F1 cars are consistently being used with modern Pirelli rubber instead of the more durable grooved compounds of its time. I spend a lot of time in AC and there is a great mod for the Ferrari F2004 with slick tires and engine performance rebalances. It will run well below 1:08s in race pace and is faster overall at Austria compared to modern machinery. The new cars are something special with ground effect, but the minimum weight for the cars needs to be lowered as does the size. The racing shows though, and it is clear that we are in the best era of F1 in a long time, and I hope the close field can be more competitive against the top teams to show how good the racing can really be.

[@manuelvpr]

Ralph was not driving at the limit, that is a historic car, so, he has to be careful and will not drive the wheels out of it. That is a pretty good lap, maybe at 90, 95% at times, just not overdoing it. Impressive for an old guy, he has not race on a F1 car in over a decade, and even though a race winner, Ralph was never competing for the championship, top 5 at his best, he was not the best but also he was not the slowest and could fight for a win. That was why he drove for so many teams (Jordan, Williams, Toyota) and did quite good.

[@pimmelberger9967]

He had only 850hp and not the full 950hp. he lost minimum 1sec because he was 46 years old and imagine in his prime.. The Aero in the new is of course much way better...

[@cheese3enjoyer]

get beaten by a 600hp 1.6l V6. compared to a 850hp 3l V10

[@rkan2]

slicks could easily give back 2sec+ though

[@rs660alec]

Literal proof that as cool as the modern cars are for what they are, they’re not the pure missles with no regard for anything besides lap time

[@vfifty9182]

Back in the day F1 had sound. Great driving from Ralf.

[@thomasconway95]

I was at this race and confirm that Ralf did multiple runs on Friday, Saturday and Sunday

[@zorkitipafed4626]

So that's technically possible that he drove more than a few documented laps in one session...

[@sir_westerlund]

1:08 with supposedly 100 hp less it's really quick because i doubt that Ralf pushed the car to the limit.

[@zorkitipafed4626]

I'm still doubting he didn't pull this outta his ass. There is still no proofs he did more laps than captured on video, and the captured ones are at least 5 seconds slower.

[@sir_westerlund]

@@zorkitipafed4626 That's true but i think Ralf said that he didn't push too hard because of his neck. Correct me if i'm wrong but anyway... Going 5 seconds faster than that 1:13 yeah, to get that time he would do many more laps for sure.

[@zorkitipafed4626]

@@sir_westerlund I don't remember the details. But I released this video speculation after days of fruitless waiting for a proof that he had indeed clocked that lap time.

[@bokyy747]

And with almost 200kg less

[@f1ght3rz40]

That Engine was a real monster back then. As a Michael fan, I wished he had this engine in the back, back then. But with the reliability his Ferrari had (not the one of Rubens‘ unfortunately)

[@stevenproost5085]

It doesn't matter how fast or how slow he was ... These 19.000 rpm plus engines just sound like the end of the world is near .. No hybrid will ever give me that feeling

[@zorkitipafed4626]

Me personally likey V12s. I remember watching the video of show cars of different eras driving around. The only car that blew up the microphone was McLaren MP4/6, so you can safely say that this shit was even louder than V10s of 2000's.

[@simonbyrne1182]

When the support act is better than the headliner!

[@bjhbjhbjhweeee]

RB18 what a corner speed

[@CahasRetroChannel90sRevivalVHS]

V10 in my ears and heart :D

[@Marty-sp2rh]

BWM drowns the sound of the RB, you almost think it full hybrids

[@zorkitipafed4626]

There's no sound of RB at all cause DHL fucks it over with their music. I decided not to use the track from this video and only left BMW's track.

[@Kris-u1s]

2003 had around the same power, way less torque, way less aero grip and the tyres were smaller and grooved. But because they were way smaller (shorter and 25% less weight), they looked faster.

[@zorkitipafed4626]

They were about 200 ponies less powerful, but whole ass 200kg lighter. In theory, if Ralf had had his 900 h.p. back, he could have been faster at least on straights.

[@anuragbodhak2491]

Those downshift sounds.... like monsters calming down inside the car, getting ready for another screaming push

[@zorkitipafed4626]

Well, that's bacically how TC worked on this car generation.

[@hirokishinguji]

That BMW-powered Williams is totally 💯🥵🥵🥵🥵

[@tiotom9217]

100 sweating sweating sweating sweating?

[@embeg]

if the v10 engine put inside the modern f1 car aero and stuff. that would be fucking amazing

[@sirlloyd6386]

What a symphony. You probably had the sound on for both cars 😂 Feel sorry for F1 fans who never got to hear this for years. It’s all about the sound, and not the lap times!

[@zorkitipafed4626]

I think the right clip is actually silent, cause DHL put music over engine sound.

[@sirlloyd6386]

@@zorkitipafed4626 yeah I know mate - I was kidding 👍🏽

[@nvcnc]

It's worth noting that this is the race lap time and not the qualifying lap time which was a 1:04.98.

[@zorkitipafed4626]

He didn't specify the session so I gave him the most favorable lap comparasion. XD

[@GabsARV]

I can't hear the V6 one lmao

[@RobertThole]

Waaaahnsinn 🤘

[@xProReVoLuTiiON]

consider also that ralf retired long time ago,a modern f1 driver would probably do 1 or 2 seconds faster lap

[@zorkitipafed4626]

Still, 1:11, far from 1:08.

[@okayboomer8815]

It's insane how much faster ralf is on exits with slicks on. Just imagine these cars with the full beans light fuel slicks and 20.000rpm

[@Rocky712_]

People like to forget that those modern cars have so much more downforce, as you can see in the the second half of the lap. Choosing Austria as a comparison is (with Monza) is by far the best tracks for the BMW Williams.

[@zorkitipafed4626]

Unfrotunately we can only simulate and speculate.

[@CR00SWIJK]

the downshifts 🤩🤩

[@zorkitipafed4626]

Good old traction control

[@marcelolimajr2007]

he difference is that F1 2022 has more aerodynamics than F1 2003 only has power and loses little aerodynamics for 2022.

[@steveshuffle]

he wasn't even trying to go fast. Breaking at 150m from the mark with slicks isn't a fast lap

[@Nebula_Ultra]

Lets see Paul Allens lap

[@nordimejia5790]

does that car have the same BMW engine a/from 2003 at full capacity?. I dont think so... but, does anybody know?

[@zorkitipafed4626]

The state of the engine is mentioned in disclamer. Tuned 100hp down.

[@judgedrew2076]

Wow…2000s make these POS modern cars look like nothing

[@coasternut3091]

Straight line speed is the only place it's faster

[@dnbmania]

The thing that stamds out to me when watching the old clips os the size of the cars and the cornering. Theyre so nimble becauae theyre not bogged down with this battery technology which, quite frankly, i dont care about in the slightest. Id rather see better racing by reducing overall weight. Plus you could actually hear the cars back then too

[@zorkitipafed4626]

The issue is, weight reduction != better racing. Of course, some measures have already been taken to reduce team budgets. However, as we can see, this doesn't take away the problem of Formula 1 not being a mono series. Each team has a chance to build something breakthrough and dominate entire seasons as a consequence. Equal competition is not in the DNA of Formula 1. In some periods there were minutes between the leader and second place, in some they were separated by seconds, but there were almost no seasons without an unequivocal favorite. The only thing left to do is to watch how the guys behind them have fun, for the chances of a fight between them are much higher.

[@kirboturbo6932]

Just beaten out on those medium speed corners

[@you.got.gapped.racing44]

English or Spanish? Ralf: 💃

[@andreacountry8471]

Without DRS and no slick tires!

[@thekoukikid7]

The Williams still looked faster on camera though

[@Nightstalker321]

I suspect that ralf just wanted to get as close to the arse of the guy in front as he could

[@dafnik8925]

Oh, even the Minardis would destroy today's cars! Forget about the grooves, tire technology has developed so much that these cars would be way faster. It's like in road cars, tire development outpaces car development. Also, this car was in demo mode, higher ride height, soft suspension etc. Ralf last drove an F1 car over 15 years ago! 2000s F1 cars were rockets and the races were sprints, they would be pushing like mad every single lap. There were 3 stop races, it was like 60 qualy laps & you had to be supremely fit. You had to be a little mad to drive these cars on the limit, Ralf probably has 3-4 sec in reserve just from driving & fitness.

[@ilovephilipines]

how is ralf in 2022

[@creativeearthian1702]

Ralf, the most underrated F1 driver ever! Imagine driving like this almost 15 years into retirement!! We all knew thst 2003 cars were super fast, but this shows they were definitely the fastest ever on equal tires. That said, they had traction control, and their engines could last only a race or so

[@BjRo90]

The cars 20 years ago were slower than Ralf in the video, especially aince he uses slicks here. The tyres alone make about 2 or 3 seconds. Slicks are much quicker.

[@zorkitipafed4626]

Erm... Did you read the disclamer? He was 5 seconds slower than his own pole of 2001. Up to this day there are no proofs that he showed the 1:08 lap time in 2022.

[@90MinutenLang020Damsko]

All BS here, the V10s had somewhere between 800 and 900 hp maybe the bmw had 920 in qualy in Monza 2004. The V10s had better power to weight by far and with full slicks they still would be faster than todays cars. What modern cars have in advantage is, slicks, DRS, better aero, better brakes, better chassis and shocks, and last but not least and what most people forget, it's not only that their combined power is 1050 hp, the V6turbo makes more torque than the V10 and combine that torque to the endless and full torque there from first seconds from the electric motors, it's about 3 or 4 times more the NewtonMeters that the V6turbohybrids make. So they have more torque and power everywhere, out of the corners and on the straights.

[@martingriffith664]

I know which one sounds better 😀

[@philippederosierjr.2319]

Burning at 150kg/hr

[@michaelf2802]

No fucking around

[@SpaceHCowboy]

Ralf chasing the sausage.

[@emilianososa2079]

First, give us the weight of the cars and then, the thelemetry.

[@predator931]

Is Ralf the first ever openly gay person to drive an F1 car?

[@ey1615]

Yes

[@tomasg4623]

1:08 is bs.

[@zorkitipafed4626]

Of course. The proof was never presented, as far as I know.

[@legoferrari14]

That Williams is just under 200kg lighter than the Red Bull, and that's BEFORE fuel loads are factored in.

[@HarryLikesCars]

And that car was downtuned and ralph hadnt raced in f1 for over a decade

[@cheese3enjoyer]

Old F1 cars actually don't have brakes the get slowed down by the engine screaming creating a close to equal force of pressure to will the car to stop. i guess stupid

[@cameronwest8188]

This video is unreliable and misleading. Poor quality content.

[@alangunningham5667]

Remember Ralf is the brother of the dirtest driver in f1 and lied frequently... there both good at that , Ralf wasnt even a patch on his brother when looking at racing skills though

[@zorkitipafed4626]

The only thing Michael was honest with himself about was that he was not the best driver in F1 history. He himself called Fangio as such, because the dude won 5 titles in the early years of F1 and lived to a ripe old age.

[@alangunningham5667]

@@zorkitipafed4626 totally agree

[@cameronwest8188]

Why did you compress the lap time? That’s gay as aids

[@zorkitipafed4626]

Read the disclaimer

[@Lifeguruonafence]

He gay now 👍

[@QuantikStudio]

useless comment

[@x_aquatix_x]

everything goes to shit eventually...

[@BLADE_RISE]

​@@x_aquatix_x How is that a bad thing?

[@SteamedhamsEdnalovescock]

Yep he likes the taste of poop now

[@mariopeters763]

The new cars are as shitty as GENZ is.

[@zorkitipafed4626]

Nah, since 2021 cars are decent. And don't forget that gen Z are the ones who makes the world around you. Except politics, where your peers are still poisoning our life.

[@x_aquatix_x]

it all started with millennials, gen z now has to carry that weight of your generation.

[@Madz69123]

Ralf looks like he's actually driving the car.. Rebbull car drives itself lol

[@Винчанац]

I see just one F1 car and that is BMW Williams. The second one is a just crap in every way, shape or form. Just listen that symphony of BMW engine.

[@zorkitipafed4626]

By the way, I was pleasantly surprised by the sound of the motors of recent years. They no longer sound like vacuum cleaners, they sound like Honda RA121/RA122 at low revs.

[@CC-wk6zn]

The current cars always look so slow, like they are on a warm up lap all the time, not to mention the flaccid sounding engines. Give me the V10s any day!